California Mask Guidelines to Stay in Place Until June 15
Press release from the Humboldt County Joint Information Center:
California will keep its current indoor masking guidance without making any changes until June 15, the California Health and Human Services (CHHS) agency announced today.
CHHS Secretary Dr. Mark Ghaly announced the continuation of the existing guidance in a virtual news conference this morning. Dr. Ghaly said California reviewed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s guidance and decided to stay with June 15 as the date those who are fully vaccinated will no longer be required to wear a mask.
June 15 marks the day Gov. Gavin Newsom said the Blueprint for a Safer Economy restrictions would be lifted.
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Science deniers! California leadership is nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. Newsome and Pelosi were both documented to be ignoring mask mandates early on in this shitshow.
If you’re extra compliant, you may be “allowed” to enjoy the freedom that is your birthright by Juneteenth. Be sure to thank Master Newsome.
yeah, but its not a bad idea to keep wearing them there masks until the germs are completely gone. lost some good buddies. its not only the flu
“ until the germs are completely gone”. 😆😆
Yeah. like common sense. In RW: when all the covid-shit is out of the air. No point in making fun of each other. The worlds already all jacked up
Hell, you may as well just get one sewed to your face then. Germs are never going away.
This actually makes sense if they want to comply with CDC recommendations, given there is no system to identify vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals.
So who is Dr mark Gahley? He doesn’t have a wiki page.
This is a interesting read though……
Governor Newsom Appoints Pediatrician and Renowned Public Health Expert to Lead Health and Human Services Agency
Published: Mar 06, 2019
https://californiaglobe.com/section-2/californias-public-health-doctors-are-violating-hippocratic-oath-first-do-no-harm/
and
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2019/03/06/public-health-expert-to-lead-health-and-human-services-agency/
make me
If the vaccinations work why the hell do they have a mask mandate? Everyone who wants a vaccine can get one at this point and those that choose not to take that responsibility on themselves.
This has nothing to do with the scientific process. It’s political theater.
Nah, the mask work. They keep a bunch of the germs to oneself
Because gruesome Newsom wants to be in charge!
They work pretty well but aren’t 100%. Not everyone has has a chance to get fully vaccinated yet. June 15th seems like a good date.
I think progressive are just scared to take their masks off because they’re scared someone will think they aren’t a progressive. Someone might even mistake them for a MAGA supporter, which to them, Is the only fate worse than dying from covid. I would suggest using a pacifier to help ease the stress from the transition of mask separation anxiety.
Maybe they haven’t got they’re first shot yet like me I’m still waiting on that call. But if it really pisses the trumpets off to see someone else doing they’re thing. All the better reason to keep it on.
Proving once again it has more to do with political ideology than public health.
I’m not a, “trumpet,” and I really couldn’t care less if someone else wants to wear a mask.
What pisses me off is when someone tells me I should wear one.
Man you’re really hung up on trump. Might be more of a secret attraction at this point. If you can’t make it more that 30 minutes without talking about someone, it just might be love.
I guess that also applies to the people here that rant on about Newsom, Pelosi,Biden, leftists, progressives, boomers…. you get the picture..
That also must be true love also.
Republicans can’t forget about Trump, he is still they’re chosen cult leader. But somehow people critical of Trump need to move on.
Hey Northwest. go to cvs riteaid or walgreens website and make a apt. waiting on a call is a lame excuse at this point.
GOOD!
Shit, Im upgrading my mask to handle the extra germs comin up. Thers a whole bunch of locals that are going to lie about being vaccinated and demand to enter businesses. Its going to be hysteria. Germs everywhere. The worst spot in California!
Germs everywhere!
Congratulations, you win the OCD comment of the day award.
4.5% infection rate after a year and a half of this nonsense, and a wildly inflated .03% mortality rate, yet you’re upgrading your mask…
Yet the masks aren’t to protect you, they’re to protect everyone else.
That is so noble of you!
You’re probably even vaccinated, aren’t you?
I’d say more but I’m choking up over here at the thought of people like you who are willing to put aside common sense, rational thought, and their own dignity in a misguided belief that they’re saving an old immunocompromised gent like me from something I have an infinitesimal chance of even being affected by.
Unless of course you’re being as sarcastic as I am, in which case, good comment.
You’re off by at least an order of magnitude on the mortality rate. And that’s not including those who are debilitated for months or even get a chronic condition after infection.
I suspect that there will be a whole collective of PostCovid Syndromes that won’t fully show up for 20 years or so among younger people. Nasty viruses have a tendency to do that. Viruses like influenza, chicken pox, herpes, etc do that and, while it’s too soon to know for sure, sars-cov-2 seems to have all the earmarks of being even worse.
No need to wait 20 years for aftereffects of COVID-19 to show up. There is already a statistically significant increase in strokes and other cardiovascular disorders among recovered COVID-19 cases.
That may very well prove true.
That doesn’t mean the vaccines are risk free, doesn’t mean they have no serious side effects, doesn’t mean there will be no unforeseen long term consequences.
To underestimate the virus’ or the vaccines’ risk, would be foolish.
Both must be weighed carefully in regards to the individual.
There must be no risk placed upon anyone to satisfy the needs, wants or insecurities of any others, while this treatment is under an EUA, and maybe not even after FDA approval, if it proves to be unwarranted.
Mandated injection should never be taken lightly, if ever.
Each person faces a different risk associated with CoVid19 and of the potential vaccine side effects.
This should never be overlooked.
Gorilla tape is supposed to be almost 100 percent effective
well then, go ahead and fumigate a room without wearing the mask. good luck
The Connecticut Department of Public Health has published the Ingredients list for the Moderna COVID “Vaccine” and that data sheet confirms it contains a chemical “SM-102.”
The SM-102 Material Safety Data Sheet describes this chemical as “NOT FOR HUMAN OR VETERINARY USE”
Here is the information published by the Connecticut Department of Health about the Moderna COVID Vaccine, which lists its INGREDIENTS:
https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/Coronavirus/Community_Resources/Vaccinations/Print-Materials/Fact-Sheets/Ingredients_English.pdf
According to the manufacturer, Cayman Chemical Company in their filing with the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), this chemical causes “Acute Toxicity “Fatal in contact with skin.”
In that same OSHA filing, the manufacturer declares SM-102 “Causes damage to the central nervous system, the kidneys, the liver and the respiratory system through prolonged or repeated exposure.”
https://web.archive.org/web/20210513181822/https://www.caymanchem.com/msdss/33474m.pdf
Hmm…. more interesting info.
Chan Zuckerberg Initiative Awards $68 Million for Human Cell Atlas
https://philanthropynewsdigest.org/news/chan-zuckerberg-initiative-awards-68-million-for-human-cell-atlas
Great find hot coffee!
SM-102 has quite an impressive MSDS sheet……….
For research use only, not for human or veterinary use.
fatal if contact with skin
suspected of causing cancer
Suspected of damaging fertility or the unborn child.
Very toxic to aquatic life with long lasting effects
Harmful if swallowed.
Causes skin irritation.
Causes serious eye irritation.
Harmful to aquatic life.
Causes damage to the central nervous system, the kidneys, the liver and the respiratory system
through prolonged or repeated exposure.
May cause anemia, cough, CNS depression, drowsiness, headache, heart damage, lassitude
(weakness, exhaustion), liver damage, narcosis, reproductive effects, teratogenic effects.
No further relevant information available.
Go ahead, have a double shot!
If it was fatal in contact with skin I’d be dead twice by now…
Thanks fishkiller. “Sm-102, damage to the central nervous system, the kidneys, the liver and the respiratory system.” Good point.
Thanks for keeping us up to date on all of the latest conspiracies.
Fatal in contact with skin but not fatal when injected? Use your head, Chicken Little!
Those hazards are the chloroform it was distributed in. Chloroform isn’t good for you. The MSDS sheet is for the whole product as distributed, 10% sm-102 dissolved in 90% chloroform. Here’s a MSDS for plain chloroform for you to compare:
https://fagron.com/sites/default/files/document/msds_coa/67-66-3_%28USA%29.pdf
Look familiar?
Your post is both factually inaccurate and intentionally misleading.
Bushy, it’s literally copy/pasted from the SM-102 MSDS sheet.
The info in my post is neither factually inaccurate or intentionally misleading.
You’re free to interpret how you like, for me, I wouldn’t touch it with a 10′ pole.
just keep repeating: “safe and effective”
“In that same OSHA filing, the manufacturer declares SM-102 …” is factually inaccurate. The MSDS is for 10% SM-102 in 90% chloroform. The things the manufacturer declares are for this mixture, not for SM-102. Anything dissolved in chloroform is going to be toxic and have a scary MSDS, without saying anything about the safety of that thing itself. That HotCoffee misrepresented this was unlikely to have been done accidentally, hence the intentionally misleading part.
To be fair I don’t think Hot Coffee thinks he/she is misleading anyone. Hot Coffee whole-heartedly believes all the shit he/she posts. Problem for Hot Coffee is, most of the crap that’s posted is just a google away from debunking. Oh well🤷🏻♀️
I believe I post what I find for people to review for themselves and either research further or toss in the trash as they see fit.
What I post is research I do for myself to determine whats really going on.
I truly have no desire or interest in getting sick from either a virus or a jab.
I assume some other people might want to see what I find, I know I want to see what they find.
Many hands make light work.
More info.
https://www.caymanchem.com/product/33474
and
https://www.caymanchem.com/pdfs/33474.pdf
I just post info. I don’t tell you what to think about it….that’s your job.
But you see Bushytails, I have already observed behavioral changes in the people I know that have been vaccinated, and I’ve mentioned it before knowing anything about SM 102.
Now it’s adding up.
It changes people.
It’s not as noticable from the inside looking out, it’s more noticable from the outside looking in.
In other words, you won’t necessarily notice what it does to you, but other people that know you are more likely to notice the changes in you.
I’ve noticed it changes people.
They start making less sense, and do weird things, like parking on the freeway and turning their motor off, and acting like it’s perfectly normal, then resist when you prod them to get off the road, and then they take off down the road.
How reassuring is that?
Then, later, they try to insist getting the shots is the only intelligent thing to do.
Kinda makes you wonder, doesn’t it?
If it doesn’t, it should.
Makes a person wonder alright but not about what vaccinations do.
Are you feeling a little disorientated?….
No. Just repulsed.
I can’t help but wonder how much this is due to the Lone Rangers out there who go around claiming they’re vaccinated when they’re not, thus resulting in everyone having to wear a mask because you can’t trust anyone. The other option would be digital vaccine passports, to weed out such idiots, but that’s even worse.
Fake blank vaccine cards are selling like hotcakes on the internet..these guys buy em and fake that they’ve had the shots.
I’ll be playing the world’s smallest violin for those idiots when they get sick.
Bushy, I think you got it right.
You’re way ahead of the curve……..the rest of the public won’t be demanding vaccine passports for at least another 2 months, when “the new variant” comes through and the media makes sure to blame the UN-vaccinated (who are going around unmasked “in violation of the mandates, while pretending to be vaccinated”)
and you idiots will fall for it, begging for vaccine passports to keep you safe.
I take full responsibility Bush, I didn’t take it seriously and now I think I might have COVID-19! Ah nevermind ,it’s not a fever just a sun burn, but it was worth it! Killed it fishin in Cabo , go anywhere with a covid test Bush, no need to waste taxpayers money on a vaccine. Oh yeah ,I pay for my own covid tests, they come right to the house in Cabo, money maker! You following me Bushy? Follow the pesos, these old fools around here that got vaccinated think they’re invincible, now they’re dropping like flies, if your old or frail stay masked ,vaccine isn’t worth a sheet,if not party on. Adios amigos.
Anyone can have an opinion however rude, ill formed or wrong. Even assign opinions to others without justification. Does not make it right. And in this case, it’s really, really wrong to make up inaccurate information, pretend only you see through the misinformation you generate then attack the people who are not misinformed at all.
“As of May 4, more than 105 million people in the United States have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19, according to the CDC. During this same time, the CDC received 9,245 reports of vaccine breakthrough infections. That’s less than .01% of fully vaccinated Americans.
Vaccine breakthrough cases are expected. In the original clinical trials, none of the vaccines were 100% effective, nor have they ever claimed to be. No vaccine is 100% effective at preventing illness, according to public health experts and the CDC.
So the vaccines are actually performing better in real-life situations than expected in some regards, according to the public health experts we interviewed.” https://www.ijpr.org/health-and-medicine/2021-05-13/no-the-death-rate-for-vaccinated-people-is-not-higher-than-that-of-unvaccinated-people
That’s funny Auntie Ovine, that’s exactly the same number of breakthrough cases (9245) as of April 26, at which point they said there were 95,000,000 fully vaccinated.
So, 10,000,000 more fully vaccinated and not one more breakthrough case?
You also fail to mention that the CDC clearly stared that these
” …reported vaccine breakthrough cases WILL represent an UNDERCOUNT.”
(emphasis mine)
What you are asserting is not even close to being accurate.
It’s just more bullshit propaganda.
And you know it.
Who do you work for?
Who do you work for? There’s money to be made in anti vaxxer rhetoric and it doesn’t need a degree to sell it.
There is money on both sides? You don’t say?
Yes, but who do you work for?
Pfizer?, Moderna? , J&J?
How much do you get paid to push the shots?
Are you really that pro vax without a monetary incentive?
You sound more anti- anti-vaxxer.
You must be re-educated. Dissent is not allowed. Peace and order above everything else. Joe Biden is moderate.
If I were running a restaurant or a bar, I would require reliable confirmation of vaccination for indoor seating – probably a printout of one of those email confirmations from the vaccinator in addition to the card, plus picture ID. Why should those businesses have to reduce their capacity because of the irresponsible dweebs who refuse to get vaccinated? As an added benefit, it would exclude stupid people who think they’re smarter than everyone else and are a general PITA.
It will be alright thirdeye, at this point you Karen’s are working on heart attacks, heart disease will spike next year.
Karens are defined as “is a woman who acts entitled, expects certain privileges or special treatment, and gets angered easily. ” Seem that applies to the people who expect to be treated as if they had been vaccinated while refusing to do it. More by far than those who object to them.
It’s not your place to dictate medical advice to myself or anyone else. Please quit asking others to confirm your level of acceptable risk. It’s not your job to protect us and it’s not our job to protect you. If you want to get vaccinated, go for it. But please stop acting like the unvaccinated are a threat to you and others. It simply is not true.
When you stop, you (in the generic sense) stop pushing your (in the generic anti vaxxer sense) medical advice that is so irrational, you will never hear from me (in the generalized sciencephilic sense) again. For the anti vaxxers to be right that they are not a threat to public health, their nonsense about covid being the flu would have to be believed. And that huge numbers of doctors, heads of state and ordinary people are lying in concert about covid being dangerous. And that spreading it does not happen. Since all of those things are on the order of Hollywood fantasy, nothing is likely to change until enough people are no longer getting sick to minimize the chances it will get out of hand again.
What anti vaxxer agenda am I pushing? What medical advice have I given? Look at all of my comments. I’m not anti vaccine. I have my polio, smallpox, mmr, and tetanus shots. I’m being cautious with new technology. What’s wrong with that? Your blanket statements show how little you understand about me or others. Enjoy living on your black and white world. Please leave my name off of your lips (and keyboard).
Breeding ground for the Marxist stormtroopers.
It’s clear that some people feel the need to control others at everyone’s expense.
That is why this pressure cooker will explode if they keep pushing the quiet majorities
It seems my reference to “stupid people who think they’re smarter than everyone else” has struck a nerve.
And I, as well as the majority of people, would decide it’s far too much of a pain in the ass to eat at your restaurant. Have fun going out of business!
I doubt you speak for the majority. Keeping the cootie clowns outside could be a a drawing card for those who prefer to be in enclosed spaces with other responsible people without social distancing restrictions.
Put up or shut up! I want to see this new business model in action! Let the free market decide! People are pretty lazy and may be troubled to go the extra mile for an event or concert, but to grab a quick bite or drink? No way, too much trouble. Here is some business advice, on the real though, all kidding aside:
If you want to be successful make your product or place easy to use and easily accessible, people work enough, they don’t want to go through extra steps to enjoy their down-time.
Next bit of advice will cost ya
If preparing for an indoor sit-down is too much trouble, either sit outside or order to go like people have been doing for about a year. I chose an outdoor table in the sun today, and I’m fully vaccinated.
Keeping the unvaccinated outside is no more onerous than keeping underage drinkers out altogether. OMG, the doorman is intruding by demanding to look at a card from the government!
Too bad it really can’t be enforced even though the anti vaxxers get their shorts in a knot over the very idea. Imagine if it could – a place that ” would exclude stupid people who think they’re smarter than everyone else and are a general PITA.” Now that would be a good place to go to relax for dinner.
Sure it can be enforced. It’s a private business decision, not the government’s. Advertise “Indoor seating for vaccinated customers” and make the required level of documentation known. People of good faith who aren’t yet fully vaccinated can accept the outdoor seating like they have been and snitty antivaxxers can stamp their feet down the road.
No, it NEEDS to be enforced. Everyone should have an I.D. number and their vaccination status on a band worn on their right arm.
I think you entirely missed my point.
Part of why states are continuing to require masks even for vaccinated people is because of the difficulty of identifying vaccinated people. Lone Ranger has several times on these forums bragged about how he lies that he’s vaccinated – and this is the problem. The CDC says that vaccinated people do not need to wear masks for everyday activities, while unvaccinated people do. The problem with this policy is people like Lone Ranger who will go without a mask, then claim they’re vaccinated so it’s what they should be doing.
So, the state has two options… Either require everyone to wear masks, despite the CDC guidance otherwise, so the liars still have to wear a mask, or implement digital vaccine passports to require people to prove they’re vaccinated if they don’t have a mask on. Either way, the result is the rest of the population suffers, either by increased restrictions that may not be needed, or by being subjected to serious privacy issues, because of a few dishonest people.
Did you get your booster yet Bushy , people dying from COVID-19 that were vaccinated, Houston we have a problem. The vaccine didn’t work, and people are leaning towards herd immunity.
The last study I saw, https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00947-8/fulltext , found the vaccine was 96.7% effective at preventing death. This means it did not protect 3.3% of people. This does not mean it didn’t work – rather, as medical treatments go, it’s exceptionally effective – just that it’s not perfectly 100% effective.
Was that the J&J, or what?
Of course some people get Covid after vaccination since it is only ninety whatever percent effective. But since people getting sick does not prevent all of them from getting sick again, by your own words herd immunity does not work either. Still much better odds on vaccination.
I’m not ok with vaccine passports, I don’t think we should get to pick and choose to violate Hippa on one disease while leaving it in place for everything else, at this point the fairest thing to do is get rid of hippa and make everybody’s healthcare public information. Then you can discriminate against me because I didn’t get a vaccine and I can discriminate against you because you have, oh, uh, well herpes.
Too bad HIPAA only prevents “covered entities”, ie hospitals, insurance companies, etc, from releasing information while permitting it for public health activities, among others.
You get my point. Don’t be purposefully dense. Forget what I said about HIPAA then. Everyone’s health should be public record. We should only be allowed to hang out with people who have the same vaccines. If you have herpes, leprosy, AIDS, or any communicable disease, or refuse COVID vaccination you should be put in a colony. Compliance should be mandatory, dissent should not be tolerated. The Fisrst and Second Amendment should be eliminated as they are dangerous to peace and order. I also believe we should be assigned numbers so we don’t have these individual names. Individualism divides, we need unity. Also, what if your name is better than mine? That would be highly offensive.
Actually, Bushy, the reason the vaccinated are still being required to wear masks is because they can still transmit.
This state is a ticking time bomb. Absolutely deplorable hypocrisy from CA officials. Follow the science they said….now when it doesn’t fit their narrative….never mind! Heading for greener pastures with water and no fire risk. You’re beautiful NorCal but, there is no future here.
Then good luck with that. The biggest fires in history have been in places where there was plenty of water. Any place that has forests or vegetation will burn in the right conditions. So you’ll have to live in a place without them. Cities of concrete I guess. Although that’s no sure thing either.
Our area has one of the highest outbreaks in the state.
I will continue to mask so I don’t spread it or bring it home to the people I love and take care of who are more vulnerable to this disease.
The reality is that people who have an inflammatory or autoimmune condition and take medication for it have trouble with getting a high level of antibodies either by getting sick or vaccinated. I wonder if pot smoking has the same effect. I’ve read both that it can suppress immune system reaction, which could help in an acute covid-19 infection, but also that it could prevent a sufficient immune reaction and allow reinfection. I suppose someone will study it as much as current partisanship divides allow.
You all are missing the point that Hillary won, and that everything else you can imagine is a baseless claim without merit, and a big lie/insurrectionist/everyone with apparently only white skin color is a terrorist plotter that is a Russian asset, but not Marxist/Bolshevik/Commie (because those are the retro-new good guys, because they sound rad to freshmen and professional grant writers who fail upward.)
Hard to reply to something so semi-coherent, but the “big lie” is the one being embraced by the Qanon Trump cult, that the Donald is still president. Orwellian, isn’t it? To lose the election is to win the election.
You may be confused with compartmentalization
Thanks for trying to follow my fairly poorly edited post.
I suggest for your next Two Minutes Hate prep, you email Hillary in order to determine if she’s updated on what percentage of Democrats still fantasize that Russia stole the 2016 election for Trump.
If you’re feeling really naughty, ask Madam Would-Be what percentage of Democrats believe the 2020 election was stolen FROM Trump.
Also, be sure to find out what percentage of Republicans report even knowing what qanon is.
Thanks for trying to follow my fairly poorly edited post.
—–S’cool.
I suggest for your next Two Minutes Hate prep, you email Hillary in order to determine if she’s updated on what percentage of Democrats still fantasize that Russia stole the 2016 election for Trump.
—–It seems I have lost her email address.
If you’re feeling really naughty, ask Madam Would-Be what percentage of Democrats believe the 2020 election was stolen FROM Trump.
—–I know that one! None! What do I win?!
Also, be sure to find out what percentage of Republicans report even knowing what qanon is.
—–Yeah, they’re still trying to pretend it’s a secret, but everybody knows. We even know who Q is:
—–https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Watkins
“I know that one! None! What do I win?!”
*Oopsy-doops! The correct answer is closer to 20-30%. But, you demonstrate some decent doublespeak potential. You’ll be a full-fledged DNC chatbot in no time!
“Yeah, they’re still trying to pretend it’s a secret, but everybody knows.”
*Hard to tell at this early stage in the conversation whether your greatest strength is ignorance, willful denial, prevarication, or delusional thinking. Anyway, something like 52% of Republicans report being unfamiliar with whatever qanon is/was. Not many claim to be very familiar. Perhaps I should predict that your conspiratorial imagination will supply a prefab retort attacking the reliability of poll results of any description, but you could reasonably do an exercise in busting yourself by using an internet search engine. When you do, please be sure to come back and post your losses for us all to see.
Oh, I almost forgot! It’s good of you to avoid—rather than deny—how bizarre (not to mention, “baseless” and “false”) that Democrats could still imagine that Putin must’ve somehow stole 2016 for the Donald. Whatever you do, don’t go looking for polling data on numbers of devoted adherents to that cult.
The key words “Republicans REPORT” not being familiar with Qanon. I would be ashamed to admit it to following such a crackpot fantasy, too. Thing is, even those who have never (or profess to have never) heard of it still spout the talking points of hardcore Q-ers, because they circulate in the Fox/OAN/Newsmax echo chamber.
As to your unreferenced claim that 20 to 30% of Democrats believe the Big Lie that the election was stolen-my Google must be broken because I cannot find anything to back that up. Feel free to give the far-right basement blog source. I’ve never heard a Democrat say that, anywhere, any time.
Most of those who seriously look into the Russia connection (for instance all 13 intelligence agencies) have concluded that Russia tried to influence the election, and that the effect, largely manifested by Russian troll farms was probably not that great. But give them credit for trying, right?
Unity is mandatory. Dissent must not be tolerated. We need to round up all those dissenters and anti-vaxxers and put them in camps already. Carve out a section of New Mexico and put them there
But both Costco and Walmart (among others) have said they will go with the CDC and NOT require masks for the fully vaccinated. Does this rule supersede their company mask policies? Does this mean that the fully vaccinated still need to wear masks in Eureka’s Costco and Walmart?
(I’m not here to argue. If it makes everybody much more comfortable I’ll wear the stupid mask because I’m not in public much, it’s not that much of a hassle for me and I don’t need to rile up my neighbors who may be worried. I’m actually proud of us locally how we keep our fights online and not in public places- other areas have had terrible disrespect to each other)
Actually Costco has said they will follow the government guidance in their locality. So you’d be wrong again. “Customers who live in areas that have state or local mask requirements may still have to wear masks – regardless of vaccination status. ” https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/shopping/2021/05/14/costco-mask-policy-no-masks-fully-vaccinated-cdc-guidance/5100196001/
No problem.
Thanks for that info. That’s what I was asking for- some clarity on our local stores. But what am I wrong about…again? Or are you just addicted to telling people they are wrong? I know- that attitude is going around more than covid!
Yes. I’m afraid it has become a bad habit due to do much really poor information being promulgated here. Anyone who expresses a reasonable doubt about vaccinations should have a place to say so. And be willing to discuss it specifically.
It’s just that having gone to a link provided in one of the comments about how bad vaccines are, I was shocked to find that, beside misinformation about that, the site touted similar paranoia and misinformation about the military, food, race, politics, etc. It was not just a mindset on vaccinations but repeating of every dubious paranoia theory in the world. Everything was a plot to these people. Which can account for the irrational repeating of the specific misinformation here. So when I see a similar remark, it makes me tend to assume the writer is buying into the whole delusional package.
Wearing a mask while shopping is not a hardship, but I do miss being able to chow down on samples at Costco.
I never cared all that much for handouts.
What’s so smart about “getting back to normal”, if “getting back to normal”means cram packing together swapping snotty air with a bunch of mouth breathing snobs, getting spoon fed off the same plates and being brought their bottles and drinking from where so many other lips have been and then leaving a big mess for someone else to take care of?
Back to normal is how this shit spread out of control all over the world, so yeah, it’s the real smart ones that are chomping at the bit to crowd on airplanes and in airports and get back at it.
Insanity is doing the same shit over and expecting a different outcome.
Thinking that getting stuck with a syringe so you can hurry up and do the same shit over that got everyone sick in the first place is the answer is a special kind of stupid.
How anyone figures the way of life that everyone has become accustomed to is somehow normal is beyond me.
How is anyone that demands to be served at a higher level while thinking others should be relegated to the outdoors or ushered down the road not a PITA?
Yeah humans are meant to be dominated. The freedumb thing was totally abhorrent. We must destroy dissent at all costs. Unity is the most important thing. Religion, education, and prosperity must be done away with. People need to go to work, do whatever job their place in society dictates, and go home. They will be given food rations and that’s it. They must pray at the Alter of the State twice per day to give thanks to the over-lords who are so generous as to let people live in such a peaceful and orderly society. Countries and ethnicities, as well as any mention of race must be done away with all in the name of Equity, your new god.