Only 4 New Cases Reported Today; Humboldt Remains in ‘Orange’ Tier

Orange tierPress release from the Humboldt County Joint Information Center:

Only four new cases of COVID-19 were reported today in Humboldt County, bringing to 3,984 the total number of county residents who have tested positive for the virus.

Humboldt County Public Health officials say low case numbers are always good news but point out that only 84 tests were resulted in this reporting period. They went on to urge community residents, especially those who are unvaccinated, to continue to wear a face covering and avoid large gatherings, adding that getting vaccinated is the best way to protect oneself and the community from the virus.

A Johnson & Johnson vaccination clinic is scheduled for Friday, May 14, at the Samoa Women’s Club. The club is located at 115 Rideout Ave. in Samoa, and hours are scheduled from 10 a.m. to noon and 1 to 3 p.m. This one-dose vaccine is authorized for county residents age 18 and older. Walk-ins are welcome, but registration is strongly encouraged and helps to prevent wasted doses. Sign up in advance at MyTurn.ca.gov. Read more about the Johnson & Johnson vaccine at cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/CDPH%20Document%20Library/COVID-19/JnJ_factsheet.pdf.

The Food and Drug Administration has authorized the Pfizer vaccine for children ages 12 to 15. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) will meet Wednesday to review the data, and health officials expect ACIP to authorize Pfizer for this age group by the end of this week or early next week. If authorized, this will be the only vaccine available for people ages 12 to 18.

In preparation for this expansion, Public Health is planning to hold a Pfizer vaccine clinic in the coming weeks, which will be posted to My Turn when details are finalized. Community residents who would prefer to get vaccinated sooner can schedule with their health care provider or go to vaccines.gov to check availability at local pharmacies.

The California Department of Public Health (CDPH) announced today that Humboldt County will remain in the “Orange” or Moderate tier under the “Blueprint for a Safer Economy,” with an adjusted case rate of 7.9 and a positivity rate of 4.2%.

View the Humboldt County Data Dashboard online at humboldtgov.org/dashboard, or go to humboldtgov.org/DashboardArchives to download today’s data.

For the most recent COVID-19 information, visit cdc.gov or cdph.ca.gov. Local information is available at humboldtgov.org or by contacting [email protected] or calling 707-441-5000.
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Local COVID-19 vaccine information: humboldtgov.org/VaccineInfo
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago

No reason to get tested if’n I ain’t sick. Why waste the doctor’s time? Let the ninny hypochondriacs get that swab shoved up to tickle their pea brain!

ILoveplants
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ILoveplants
2 years ago

And NOW it becomes a battle of the vaccinated against the unvaccinated. Or should we say, the haves and the havenots. this looks racism, inequity, and vaccinated privilege, all rolled into one. Same thing they claim to be trying to get rid of. Makes no sense, hypocrisy

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago
Reply to  ILoveplants

That’s a great theory, except vaccines are free and easily available. Unless you were talking about brains, not vaccines.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Voter ID is free and available as well

1 guy
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1 guy
2 years ago

I may be the only person who believes that we should have a secure border that allows us to chose who enters our nation AND that we should allow economic refuges from south and central America, as our government actively sought to ruin their governments and economy.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  1 guy

Most people think that. The GQP loves to declare that “ LIBERALS WANT OPEN BORDERS” , which was bullshit when they first said it and it’s bullshit now. It’s like the big Socialism boogie man they trot out every chance they get.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Except it’s what going on now. When every single rule to screen immigrants is contested, then the only option is to either to stop screening or turn a blind eye to those who skip the whole bother. Of course liberals do not want open borders. They just object to anything that can prevent it.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

The “vaccines” are not free.

We, our children and likely their children will be paying.

Your favorite drug-makers didn’t just give them away out of the goodness in their hearts.

ILoveplants
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ILoveplants
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Bushy, How does freedom of religion fit into YOUR belief? Look up Christian privilege, and Christianity is readily available, but not everyone chooses to take it. Soon they will be paying us (the unvaccinated) a check since we won’t be part of the norm they have to give us equity. That’s how truly screwed up it has become.

Skitty
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Skitty
2 years ago

You obviously have not gotten a test recently. It took about 5 minutes of my time at the drive-thru at Walgreens. I had to swirl the equivalent of a q-tip around my nose for 15 seconds and then hand the pharmacy tech back the stick.
No swab up into my brain. No wasting of a “doctor’s” time.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Skitty

No doctor required, because it isn’t that critical, just a flu test, nothing more. Over 80 percent of all deaths over 65 years old, 95 percent over 50 years old. No need for a vaccine if your under 40 years old unless your compromised somehow. People that push and think drugs are a cure suck, because of you we have so many homeless and tweakers. Thank you, if we anti druggies take responsibility for some covid fatalities , then you drug pushers need to take responsibility for tweakers ,homeless, and overdosers.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Anti druggie here big time. Avoid any medicine I can. Had surgery a couple of times and never used a pain killer. Think pot users are dumber than nature made them. I even think that much of government regulation over the pandemic was over reaction and ill conceived and even worse implemented. But vaccines are just using your own immune system to create disease resistance without having to get sick first. Puffing up anti vaxx nonsense is not being anti drug.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Vaccines, possibly.

But the jab is not a vaccine.

It is experimental. Never been done before.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  Skitty

That is good to know it’s that simple.

Tired
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Tired
2 years ago

Best way to stay at a lower tier is by not testing your population.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  Tired

Exactly. 👍

Not a whole lotta precautions going on here and I haven’t noticed a “spike”. Numbers don’t show it either.

My guess is……people are worn on the bs and aren’t interested in “testing” to keep this scam alive.

AA
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AA
2 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

Yep, tired and 4trinity.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

Yep, just going to work through the flu like the good ole days, and if your in your 80s its died of natural causes.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

You don’t keep up on current news, do you? It’s obvious..

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Nope, I survived the first half century without following the news, all news networks now are just soap operas, but please stay tuned in.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

The inconsequential “positivity rate” determining how much “freedom” the Governor reruns to us serfs is ridiculous.

To get more “freedom” we just need more heathy people getting tested? How much more of this “health theater” will we fall for?

The at risk, we know predominantly who they are, should have been the only ones to “shelter”. But why let a crisis go to waste when there’s power to grab and money to control.

2nd Amendment Security
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2nd Amendment Security
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

This is simply about the controllers learning how dial up and dial down the fear and hysteria by pushing a theatrical performance that would normally get very low ratings

into every orifice.

This is also creating division between friends and family and communities, and giving future control freaks a preview of the requirements of a future were you have to be comfortable with destroying people’s lives.

This is, by far, the largest Milgram experiment on the world stage, and they’ve found a very pliable test population.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

You know there is another option altogether? Other than pretending there is no pandemic in order to maximize resentment to being ordered around due to a pandemic? That would be to accept a reasonable amount of cooperation in avoiding spreading disease to your neighbors just because you can do it. I mean, versus announcing you don’t give a crap if they die or not because no one is going to tell YOU what to do.

fishkiller
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fishkiller
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Guest, Please stop blaming others for spreading disease.
You know perfectly well by now that there is no asymptomatic spread.
I am absolutely sure that all commenters here would stay home if feeling ill.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
Reply to  fishkiller

If that were true, there would never have been a pandemic.

Derp.

Chicken little
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Chicken little
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Divide and conquer, been going on since the beginning. Nothing new here. Just read the comments and you will see the division. Look around and you will see that we are being conquered in real time.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Chicken little

You’re being conquered in your own paranoid mind like the others here. Yep, yep, yep, yep, it’s a con-spy-racy. I’m not afraid you’re afraid. Is that why you contrarians come here every article trying to convince yourselves that the pandemic is anything other than what it is? You’re just looking silly any more.
Masks scare you, testing scares you, vaccines scare you, what a bunch of scaredy-cats.
How do you say that your deeply afraid of the pandemic without saying you’re deeply afraid of the pandemic?
Come here on every Covid article and say how paranoid EVERY ONE ELSE IS while crying about masks and tests and distancing and parrot absolute bull crap you read on the internet.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

I mean, you only do that stuff if you’re afraid of COVID. If you are, there’s no shame, people do die from it.

I’m scared of drunk drivers, rattlesnakes, and skunks.

Don’t just say people who don’t take the vaccine are scared though. For some it’s a nonfactor. I never changed my lifestyle, never wore a mask, never stopped hanging out with friends and family. Sure some people frowned and I wasn’t allowed in some stores, but my life has continued on pretty much like normal. I caught COVID and it only reinforced the fact that it’s nothing to worry about. All of my friends who have taken the shot have gotten more sick from the shot than I did from the actual disease.

Anyway different strokes for different folks. I’ve substantially increased my wealth, gotten much healthier, and continued having fun the whole time.

You can say I don’t care and guess what? You would be absolutely correct! Enjoy! It’s a beautiful day outside. Gonna take a hike, plant my corn and squash, then go cruise around smoking doobies with all my friends all over the county! Might even go blast some tannerite! Yee haw! Don’t forget, to live life you have to actually live it! Have fun!

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago

Oh, since you caught Covid and didn’t die you are living proof that it’s just a flu? I know, a lot of you denialists are all about me me me and more me.
I get it.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

I’m living proof that it was super mild for me. How am I a denialist? I said people do die from COVID. Also, if we are in a world wide pandemic/depression, which we are, you can bet your ass it’s my family first and then me, everybody else comes way last. If you aren’t putting your own and your family’s survival first in times like these then you are a fool.

Skitty
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Skitty
2 years ago

Serious question. You say all of your friends got more sick from the vaccine then you did from the virus.
Are you referring to the immediate 12-48 hours after they got the vaccine, or are you saying they got really sick long after getting the vaccine ?

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Skitty

He’s full of it.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Skitty

I’m saying they got pretty ill for 24-48 hours. I had one friend who was sick for 3 days with a mild flu like sickness. I was sick for about 10 days with COVID, but I only had a cough and no sense of taste or smell. Disregard yeah,sure for some reason that person wants everyone to be unhappy.

Skitty
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Skitty
2 years ago

Thanks for the reply. I myself had a fever and felt very fatigued for about 24 hours after the second shot of Moderna vaccine
That was 2 months ago. Nothing unusual since.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago

Epic, I hope it makes you feel better.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago

I remember you saying you’re Covid sickness was a “helluva” sickness, or something similar.

Frankly I’ve enjoyed not getting ANY SICKNESS over the last year of mandates and increased awareness of communicable respiratory illnesses.

Being sick sucks.

Do ask yourself, after being raided and catching Covid for your whole family, ” gee, maybe there is a better way to do things”?

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago

I said i see how it could be a helluva sickness for the elderly. But I’m sure you have that in your notes somewhere. As for being raided, that was years ago, you seem to have an issue of living in the past, as others have pointed out, constantly outdated and irrelevant. Also, it depends on how you look at it. I figure I just pay my taxes in lump sums every 5-10 years. But I digress, as I’ve reverted to my original trade of being a carpenter I certainly seem to be much happier than you, ya big ol ray of sunshine!

Do ask yourself if your budding social life and awesome job are giving you exactly what you want out of life, I can tell from your calm, friendly, accepting demeanor that you must be doing great in those regards.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago

I’d be happy to be a friend of yours that is happy to disagree with you.

How many cumulative days was your family not productive from Covid?

10 days for you, how many for wife and kids buddy?

Times that to who you gave it to and got it from.

Times that by endless.

Is that REALLY a smart way to move forward each year if there are options not to, my friend?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago

Ok 1911, The comment about the raid was unnecessary for many obvious reasons.

Sorry.

The discussion was Covid. That was my bad.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Ys,

Quote

MIT researchers ‘infiltrated’ a Covid skeptics community a few months ago and found that skeptics place a high premium on data analysis and empiricism.

“Most fundamentally, the groups we studied believe that science is a process, and not an institution.”

“Indeed, anti-maskers often reveal themselves to be more sophisticated in their understanding of how scientific knowledge is socially constructed than their ideological adversaries, who espouse naïve realism about the “objective” truth of public health data.”
“In other words, anti-maskers value unmediated access to information and privilege personal research and direct reading over “expert” interpretations.”
“Its members value individual initiative and ingenuity, trusting scientific analysis only insofar as they can replicate it themselves by accessing and manipulating the data firsthand.”
“They are highly reflexive about the inherently biased nature of any analysis, and resent what they view as the arrogant self-righteousness of scientific elites.”
“Many of the users believe that the most important metrics are missing from government-released data.”

“One user wrote: ‘Coding data is a big deal—and those definitions should be offered transparently by every state. Without a national guideline—we are left with this mess’.”
“The lack of transparency within these data collection systems—which many of these users infer as a lack of honesty—erodes these users’ trust within both government institutions and the datasets they release.”
“In fact, there are multiple threads every week where users debate how representative the data are of the population given the increased rate of testing across many states.”
“These groups argue that the conflation of asymptomatic and symptomatic cases therefore makes it difficult for anyone to actually determine the severity of the pandemic.”
“For these anti-mask users, their approach to the pandemic is grounded in more scientific rigor, not less.”
“These individuals as a whole are extremely willing to help others who have trouble interpreting graphs with multiple forms of clarification: by helping people find the original sources so that they can replicate the analysis themselves, by referencing other reputable studies…
that come to the same conclusions, by reminding others to remain vigilant about the limitations of the data, and by answering questions about the implications of a specific graph.”
“While these groups highly value scientific expertise, they also see collective analysis of data as a way to bring communities together within a time of crisis, and being able to transparently and dispassionately analyze the data is crucial for democratic governance.”
“In fact, the explicit motivation for many of these followers is to find information so that they can make the best decisions for their families—and by extension, for the communities around them.”
“The message that runs through these threads is unequivocal: that data is the only way to set fear-bound politicians straight, and using better data is a surefire way towards creating a safer community.”
“Data literacy is a quintessential criterion for membership within the community they have created.”
“Arguing anti-maskers need more scientific literacy is to characterize their approach as uninformed & inexplicably extreme. This study shows the opposite: they are deeply invested in forms of critique & knowledge production they recognize as markers of scientific expertise”

“We argue that anti-maskers’ deep story draws from similar wells of resentment, but adds a particular emphasis on the usurpation of scientific knowledge by a paternalistic, condescending elite that expects intellectual subservience rather than critical thinking from the public.”
And yet in the conclusion they lament “the skeptical impulse that the ‘science simply isn’t settled,’ prompting people to simply ‘think for themselves”.

End Quote

You can stop pushing the conspiracy crap any time now.

Call me crazy
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Call me crazy
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Survival of the wisest.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Thanks Kym,

Your link doesn’t work for me.
I get…..

Forbidden

You don’t have permission to access /pubs/viral-visualizations.pdf on this server.

I didn’t think many would use a link to a pdf therefore I posted as I did.

Here’s 2 more posts to look at….

Covid: Prior infection vs vaccination @

https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/04/24/covid-prior-infection-vs-vaccination/

and

SARS-CoV-2 infection rates of antibody-positive compared with antibody-negative health-care workers in England: a large, multicentre, prospective cohort study (SIREN)

@

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00675-9/fulltext

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Makes one wonder why no link was provided.

Doesn’t seem familiar at all.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Got interrupted while posting and Just forgot to post the link when I returned to it inspector…..ever done that?
Kym seemed to find it but you couldn’t?

pdf link to MIT report.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2101.07993.pdf

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym- Can you explain why you think this MIT is a “good” paper? ” It talks a lot about how anti-maskers (not anti vaxxers, which the authors consider a separate topic and not included in this paper) are focused on doing things like sifting through data to find scientific uncertainty and raise objections or treating the issue as a political touchstone to science – sheep are mentioned- or repeatedly talk about profits corrupting science but everyone (including the anti maskers) already know this but disagree on what it means. Their conclusion is that it does no good to try to increase the ability of these internet groups on “scientific literacy” because the authors think that science needs to include the dissidents’ visualizations (?) in communicating, not try to get them to understand science. “Understanding how these groups skillfully manipulate data to undermine mainstream science requires us to adjust the theoretical assumptions in HCI research about how data
can be leveraged in public discourse.” But then “Skillfully manipulate” is a pretty unflattering phrase with the way the authors use it and I think their conclusions are that “In other words, our paper introduces new ways of thinking about “democratizing” data analysis and visualization. Instead of treating increased adoption of data-driven storytelling as an unqualified good, we show that data visualizations are not simply tools that people use to understand the epidemiological events around them.
They are a battleground that highlight the contested role of exper-
tise in modern American life.” In simple words, don’t expect people to come to understand what a scientist means by data because the dissidents don’t think like that. Well Duh. These people are going for their doctorates using this stuff. ( And it’s scary that MIT is teaching foreign students the ins and outs of manipulating Americans in social media. )

I can’t see what the good in this is. So why did you say that? All the paper just uses the same sort of “visualizations” that are seen here commonly. What am I missing?

BTW the next two links HC in the next post have nothing to do with this paper except exhibit that dissidents do not come to the same conclusions as scientists do.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

AuntieO,

If you notice I submitted the paper in response to Ys who consistently claims “it’s a con-spy-racy”.

It’s not a conspiracy, it’s a large part of our country that is not convinced that the process or conclusions are well thought out. It’s also people willing to go over details and include new info.

People who want to follow the money as well as the case load and combine different aspects of info. for a more complete picture instead of a myopic perspective.

Including what political advantages politicians receive from leaning on the scales of the info. they want put out to benefit themselves.

People who resent info. being hidden by Big Tech and Others enforcing their will by denying or hiding info. from them.

The virus is not happening in a vacuum. There are many aspects to look at.

Personally I have followed all the rules ( masks, hand washing, etc.) except getting the jab. That’s where I draw the line and reserve my right to do what I believe is best for me and my family.

You have the right to do what you believe is best as well, and that’s as it should be.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

You really believe that? Contagious is as contagious does in a host population. Asymptomatic has been shown to fuel very little to no spread. Funny how the “follow the science” group becomes the “anti-science” group once the science no longer supports their position.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago

Exactly backwards.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  Really?

As the woman herself says about that- ““I am a scientist. In my work, we work with 1000s, we follow the whole of science. We update regularly.
Stop retweeting 1 old tweet, 1 answer from >1yr ago. Listen to my statements, read our updated guidance.”

https://news.yahoo.com/who-expert-personal-attacks-covid-134625290.html

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  fishkiller

Yup. Sure. Others never infect others with an infectious disease. Sure.

In fact it’s just the opposite. “We know that a person with COVID-19 may be contagious 48 hours before starting to experience symptoms. Emerging research suggests that people may actually be most likely to spread the virus to others during the 48 hours before they start to experience symptoms.” https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/if-youve-been-exposed-to-the-coronavirus

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

That’s the exact same as the flu

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago

Why do you find it so important to call it a flu? It is a different family of viruses, so it is not scientifically a flu. It has different symptoms, so doctors treat it differently. It lasts longer. Can make people sicker. So why insist on it only to make yourself feel righteous?
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm

But if you really want to call it a flu because it makes you feel safer, think of it as a less damaging flu than the Spanish flu but worse than the Asian or Hong kong flu. Because, while at this time having lived with various flu pandemics and becoming better at both treatment and vaccinations for the moment, the flu has at some point been more deadly than this covid-19 pandemic. And might be again.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

The 1958 and 1968 pandemics were much worse than this one if adjusted for population. My mention of the flu was in comparison to what you said about presymptomatic transmission. It is common knowledge that the majority of diseases are most contagious in the 48 hours before someone exhibits symptoms, this is nothing new or exclusive to COVID. The flu, the common cold, SARS, tuberculosis, are all at their most contagious before symptoms are exhibited.

This asymptomatic bs was a play on that. If someone is truly asymptomatic they are also barely contagious. It’s presymptomatic exposure that drove the transmission of this virus, and that’s common knowledge when it comes to all respiratory diseases.

Knowledge is power, it’s a shame to see how the powers that be capitalized on the general population’s lack of knowledge about viruses to expand control and seize vast amounts of power, all while reducing law abiding citizens’ freedoms.

Yeah, sure
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Yeah, sure
2 years ago

I didn’t know you were a licensed college educated virologist and medical expert. It’s funny how many “experts” we have the privilege of here. At least 5 or more that take the time out of their busy days perusing conspiracy and wacko sites to repeat their expert conclusions. I’m so informed now.
We’ve even got an expert medically trained comedian in the bunch.
Yep yep yup yep.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah, sure

These scientists might be…:

“Covid-19: Asymptomatic cases may not be infectious, Wuhan study indicates.”

“The researchers found no “viable virus” in cultures from asymptomatic samples.”

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4695

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

We’ve been around this block before. What the study you linked to did not say what you imply they said. “The researchers said that their findings did not show that the virus couldn’t be passed on by asymptomatic carriers, and they didn’t suggest that their findings were generalisable.” and . “With the centralised isolation and treatment of all covid-19 cases during the lockdown period in Wuhan, the risk of residents being infected in the community has been greatly reduced. When susceptible residents are exposed to a low dose of virus, they may tend to be asymptomatic as a result of their own immunity,” wrote the authors.” and “But, he added, “there is plenty of evidence elsewhere showing that people infected with covid-19 may be temporarily asymptomatic and infectious, before going on to develop symptoms.”

What that meant was that since the virus is so well controlled in Wuhan (the government there says), people who had immunity from previous covid-19 infections were unlikely to infected by asymptomatic individuals. Not anything like asymptomatic people can’t shed virus.

Right in your linked article it says this. So no, “These scientists might be…” saying you are wrong.

“Do people without any symptoms of COVID-19 help spread the virus? The alarming answer is yes.”

https://www.uchealth.org/today/the-truth-about-asymptomatic-spread-of-covid-19/

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

@ Aunt.

4 Trinity is a waste of time.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

“A mass screening programme of more than 10 million residents of Wuhan, China, performed after SARS-CoV-2 was brought under control, has identified 300 asymptomatic cases of covid-19, none of which was infectious.”

Yes, the paper I linked to sounds a bit like fauci. Two different themes going on. Possibly damage control.

The original is much more on point:

“All close contacts of the asymptomatic positive cases tested negative, indicating that the asymptomatic positive cases detected in this study were unlikely to be infectious.”

“In summary, the detection rate of asymptomatic positive cases in the post-lockdown Wuhan was very low (0.303/10,000), and there was no evidence that the identified asymptomatic positive cases were infectious”

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah, sure

I have a bachelor’s in biology from HSU my friend. I had to take microbiology to get my major. I’m not a virologist but that class gave me an understanding of viruses and bacteria beyond your average person who hasn’t taken any classes regarding that subject. You just can’t handle that someone you vehemently disagree with may have a college education?

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago

No I too got a degree in science (Physics) and know very well that there are a lot college degrees granted that conveyed education but couldn’t fix the limits in understanding. It makes me shudder to remember the waste.

As you say “It’s presymptomatic exposure” that has driven this pandemic. But symptoms can be a pretty flexible thing. And frankly most asymptomatic people turned out to be just presymptomatic (I read about 80%) so treating them as infective seems reasonable unless they are clearly at the recovery stage. And how does doing one test ever show what stage they are? Only time can tell.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Because that is how they comfort themselves because they’re in denial.

Bryan
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Bryan
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Choose your experts wisely.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Ys,

I didn’t know you were a licensed college educated psychologist and medical expert that knows how ” they” think.
Who exactly is “they”?

I see many individuals here with many different points of view.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Well said, Guest (@8:33pm)

Those who take away freedom very rarely voluntarily give it back.

thetallone
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thetallone
2 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

Those who die hardly ever come back, too. What’s your point? Oh, scamdemic to take your freedom. Thanks, Tucker. Google: Covid India.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  thetallone

What does freedom or loss thereof have to do with “google: covid India” ?

thetallone
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thetallone
2 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

If the pandemic is just a phoney excuse to take your freedom (as some believe), then all the people dying of Covid all over the world must be in on the ruse. Either that, or it’s an actual pandemic. Sorry I called you Tucker. That was uncalled for.

R-dog
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R-dog
2 years ago

I reamber a big panic when there was not even no cases all be careful out there

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  R-dog

40 percent of the nation is always panicked R-dog, I just laugh behind the mask. It all kind of started with Yrump, people called me the day he got elected really upset, I thought for a second maybe we were in trouble, but that was it . Then I would just die laughing as these people cried about Yrump, and cry they did. Now its just covid they cry about, I’ll tell them I got vaccinated, then they pat me on the back ,say good job ,and ready to pal around, then I tell them NOT , laughing my arse off , while they are disgusted. Too funny , can’t make this shit up, people are so gullible.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Yes they are. Especially the online conspiracy, it’s-nothing-but-the-flu types.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

True, the conspiracy types took too many antidepressants or pain killers ,all burnt out and jacked up. Like having a fast car that gets no traction, too funny, people are so gullible. Maybe the reality that we all die at some point is too hard to swallow. Everyone has that day coming when they will gasp for that last breath. Harsh but reality.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Nonsense. Utter nonsense. According to that non sequitur idea, murdering people is not big deal because everyone dies sometime anyway. So getting a vaccine or not getting on doesn’t matter either.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Sorry if you can’t swallow the reality of covid, just like everyone accepts the flu killing tens of thousands every winter, so will covid, no matter what YOU do, accept it or deny it , it happens every year.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

The flu kills tens of thousands. Covid kills hundreds of thousands, and would kill millions if strong measures to contain it were not taken. Clearly these are not equivalent.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Strong measures did nothing, sweden was lower than Cali on fatalities per capita, and their bars remained open the whole year. Masking and lockdowns won’t change the outcome, wake up and smell the reality, not even this vaccine will stop elders from dying of COVID-19, you guys are true deniers. Welcome to 6 bucks a gallon for fuel this summer, maybe close your eyes when you fill up and think of 2019 prices.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Swede’s are a whole lot more law abiding and socially coorperative. They took strong measures that increased as the death toll rose.

“The restrictions will be prolonged until mid-May and mean restaurants will have to close at 8.30 pm and that shops and malls can only let in limited numbers of customers. Sport venues and public pools will remain effectively closed to visitors.

Lofven pleaded with people to hold out for a while longer, but said that the vaccination programme meant there was light at the end of the tunnel.”

https://news.yahoo.com/sweden-not-ready-lift-covid-120445581.html

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Sweden did better than us with wayyyyy less lock downs. That says it all . Bars in Sweden had zero restrictions into November of 2020, we had been locked down for 6 months by then. Then in November Sweden stopped alcohol sales after 10pm ,big deal. Bars were still open . Our masking and lockdowns had ZERO affect on covid spread, just put every kid in Cali a year behind FUHS ,thank you fortuna high school board for pushing for in class, proves lockdowns were useless.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

They’re dropping like flies in Florida, Texas, Wyoming, Montana, Mississippi, Arizona……etc.

“Assessing mandatory stay- at- home and business closure effects on the spread of COVID- 19”

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/eci.13484

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Yeah, you’re a one man laugh-fest !! 🤪

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

As long as I’m laughing is all that matters, you must be the permanent frown type, sorry for your lack of humor. I take covid as serious as I do the flu, both are killers but oh well ,life goes on after one dies .

Willie Bray
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2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

🕯🌳That’s about the most sensible thing you’ve said since you’ve been on here. 🆗️

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Funny thing, you’re not funny. You haven’t said one funny thing yet. I guess you amuse yourself getting Covid and then being around people kidding you got the vaccine but didn’t and find their concern hilarious…. with friends like you who needs enemies? Oh, but you’re a comedian, in your mind. Thanks for the update on your finances, we were really wanting to know.
SMH

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

I think the Lone Ranger is funnier than you, that’s for sure.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Finances? Mask too tight? Confused or just angry, sheesh loose the permanent frown. Yep not a care in the world , America sucks for you in that aspect lol.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Nah, they just upset that some people thought for themselves during this “pandemic,” and that doing things against what the powers that be said may have had a more successful result for alot of people than actually listening to the “guidance” from the powers that be. History will show who the individuals are that handled this the right way and are the true survivors.

In the face of crisis some will stand, while the rest curl into a ball.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

It’s people like him who are going to get the rest of us stuck with digital vaccine passports.

fishkiller
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fishkiller
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Bushy, you’re right……total compliance & obedience is the only way to be free.

Free estimates
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Free estimates
2 years ago
Reply to  fishkiller

Freedom is slavery. War is peace. Sickness is health.

Free estimates
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Free estimates
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

“You’re nearly a real treat… All tight lipped and cold feet. Mary, you’re nearly a treat. Mary, you’re nearly a treat; but you’re really a cry…”