Humboldt Pauses J&J Vaccine Rollout, Hundreds Of Canceled Appointments Being Rescheduled On Myturn, Monitoring Your Post-vaccine Symptoms And More

For this type of report, the Emergency Operations Center takes the questions from the media, and staff reads them on camera to officials for their response. The resulting video, called a Media Availability, is then provided to news outlets at the end of the day.

Here are some of the main points covered in the April 13th Media Availability session with a summary of answers from Humboldt County Public Health Officer Dr. Ian Hoffman, followed by questions we would have liked to ask in response if appropriate.

Question by The Times-Standard: Have there been any extreme adverse reactions to vaccines in Humboldt County? 

If so, how many and associated with which vaccine? 

Please be specific about the exact number of cases and which vaccines they were associated with?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

There have not been any that public health is aware of.

25 seconds in:  

Question by The Times-Standard: Have there been any cases of blood clots related to the Johnson  and Johnson vaccine in Humboldt County?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

No.

35 sec in:   

Question by The Times-Standard: The CDC recommends patients be monitored for 15 minutes after vaccines are administered.  That does not appear to be happening in some local pharmacies that offer vaccines.  

Can Dr. Hoffman comment on that?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

Public health has not been made aware of  any of those concerns. So I’d definitely direct any of those questions to the clinic or pharmacy in question and take it from there.

1 minute in: 

Question by The Times-Standard: Has HSU had any  discussions with Public Health about potentially requiring vaccinations for students who live  in the dorms and students in athletic programs?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

So, I am aware of a national and statewide debate on this and their public health would definitely support fully vaccinating as many of the students coming back as possible but I really think overall that question should be directed to hsu administration. 

1 mins 30 sec in:   

Question The Times-Standard: With some schools  having fewer than 60% of students vaccinated in kindergarten according to CDPH data, does Dr.  Hoffman have any concerns about vaccine hesitancy and reaching herd immunity in Humboldt County?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

Yes I think all of us have those concerns not  just for Humboldt County, but for the state of California, for the country, for the world. This  is really our tool to get out of this pandemic, but we recognize there are some people who  have valid concerns about vaccination, about this vaccine. I think the most important thing  is to hear people’s concerns listen and try to address them the best we can with information  and knowledge that’s truthful and factual.

2 mins 15 sec in:   

Question by The North Coast Journal: You and  other officials have asked residents to bring a photo identification or  a document, like a utility bill, with the person’s name on it when  showing up to a vaccination appointment.  Some feel that poses a barrier to vaccination,  as houseless residents may not have an ID or such documentation and undocumented residents may be apprehensive about presenting such documentation for fear of its immigration consequences. 

Are there alternatives for people in this situation?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

Yeah there’s a lot of different options and we  definitely are trying to set the bar low. So this is not an official piece of documentation,  it’s really something that can match the name on the appointment with the person who shows up.  It could be a membership card to Costco or some other grocery store. Just anything with your name  on it, that matches the name on the appointment.  

So there’s no official requirement. As far as  homeless outreach, Open Door is working with us  

closely to do homeless outreach  in the homeless community and those are our really individual efforts, not  through the mass faction vaccination clinics.  

So those would have very different requirements  in terms of their documentation status.

3 mins 35 sec in:   

Question by The North Coast Journal: The federal  government this morning decided to pause federal administration of the Johnson  and Johnson vaccine after six people suffered blood clots potentially linked to the  vaccine.  Will Humboldt County follow suit and, if so, approximately how many vaccination  appointments will that disrupt this week?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

Yes we’re definitely following  suit with both CDC and CDPH.  

The total number of appointments, not exactly sure county-wide because we don’t control  

all of those. I know for public health, it is several hundred appointments.

4 mins 15 sec in:   

Question by The North Coast Journal:  Why did Humboldt County’s vaccine allocation  increase so dramatically this week and do you expect allocations will continue at this level —  or even increase further — in the coming weeks?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

We have been expressing a need for more vaccine for months now in Humboldt County and the state was finally able to meet that need  and give us doses to help us get to our goals.  

I am not confident that we will continue to get that level of vaccine, especially given what’s going on with Johnson & Johnson  pause. With the administrative error in a plant that was manufacturing Johnson & Johnson and with a small decrease that’s coming to California over the next couple weeks. I really want to encourage everyone to take this opportunity to use these vaccines that are here. We have them now. We want to get them into arms as quickly as possible because we don’t know for sure that we’ll have this much in the future.

5 mins 15 sec in:  

Question by KMUD News: Europe has delayed the roll out  of the Johnson and Johnson vaccine, meanwhile the United States is seeking to pause it’s  administration due to a potential link to a rare blood clot disease.   

Will Humboldt County continue to use the J&J shot? 

Do you have any concerns?  

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

We’re not going to continue it until it’s cleared by CDC and CDPH.   The concerns are that we – yes we are concerned. That’s why we’re pausing it. The entities who oversee this ACIP the Western States Conference are going to look into this, and when and if they clear it, we feel confident that we will be able to give the vaccine again, just as we did after the Moderna pause. And now we’ve given millions and millions of doses after that without any problems.

6 mins 10 sec in:  

Question by KMUD News: Are enough Humboldt  County residents signing up for vaccines? 

Has the county sent extra doses to other neighboring counties?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

The clinics are filling up. We definitely want to continue to encourage everyone to fill those up.  

We haven’t had any trouble yet. I think we wanted to get the word out quickly that we had this  

large amount and that we opened up MyTurn which did allow for people to directly book into the appointments which was a change from before. So I think that word is out now and the clinics are filling up and so far we have not directed any of our vaccine to any other counties.

6 mins 50 sec in:   

Question by KMUD News: Our area seems to have a high ratio of vaccine skeptics.  

Are their concerns valid or are they  putting our community further at risk?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

Everyone’s concerns are valid.  I mean we definitely don’t want to be dismissive of people who are critically thinking about the  vaccines.  We recognize these are new vaccines.  People are certainly having reactions.  There are things like what’s going on today.  So yes. We want to hear everyone’s concerns, but we want to remind everyone that these are also safe and effective vaccines and even given what we’re dealing with right now, we always are measuring the potential rare side effects from a vaccine versus the much more common and often deadly consequences of getting the diseases we’re trying to prevent. So we want to continue to hear everyone’s concerns and we hope that we can be open to that and move the vaccine effort forward by listening and hopefully getting more and more of our population to get vaccinated.

8 mins 5 sec in:   

Question by KMUD News: With a record number of vaccines being administered, is California’s ‘full reopening’ going to be safe for all residents, or are we still at risk of another ‘wave’?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

It’s a great question. I hope that  the more vaccine we can get out there, the more we’ll feel confident and reopening.

8 mins 25 sec in:   

Question by Redwood News: Humboldt County Public Health announced earlier this morning that it will follow CDC and FDA recommendations and pause the use of J&J vaccines.  

Can you explain why the County is doing this and what this means for the 650 doses of J&J the County was set to receive this week? 

How will this impact local vaccination clinics planned for this week or next? 

Should local residents who have gotten the J&J vaccine be concerned at all?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

The reason we’re doing this is for safety. I  cannot stress enough how important it is that we maintain a safety record for all of these vaccines that is to the highest standard. So that’s what we’re seeing right now. When and if this is cleared, we will feel confident moving forward and we will open up that vaccine just as we have in the past with pauses. I don’t think this is really going to have any effect on our vaccination effort. We have plenty of other doses in the county currently to make up for this. So we were luckily in a really good place given the large number of doses we got this week.  So if this pause is short, it absolutely will have no effect. If it lasts for even a week, I think we’ll still be okay. If it’s lasting longer than that it could have some impact to the number of vaccines getting out into our community, but time will tell we need to wait and see what the ACIP and the Western State Conference says tomorrow.

10 mins in:  

Question by Redwood News: Last week, Public Health was advertising there were hundreds of vaccine appointments available for this last weekend, but they seemed to have filled up relatively quickly. What’s the current supply and demand of  Covid-19 vaccines locally? 

Is local demand for the vaccine meeting or exceeding the supply of vaccine the County is being allocated?  

Are all vaccine doses still being used  each week by the County like in the past?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

The demand has definitely outstripped the supply.  We are finally to a place where we have a very large supply and I think that that also coincided  with us starting on MyTurn and people getting used to that. So once we got the word out that those clinics filled up very quickly and we’re seeing the rest of the clinics that we open – up to 1300 doses in a day – are filling up rather quickly. So I think the demand is still very high and we hope that we can continue to meet that demand with this increased  supply. We have always used up our vaccine within seven days and we plan to continue  to do so as long as the demand is there.

11 mins 15 sec in:   

Question by Redwood News: With everyone 16 and older now eligible for a vaccine, can you quickly recap some of the most common side effects that people  may experience after receiving a vaccination?  

For Pfizer and Moderna, are side effects  more severe or common after the second dose versus first dose? What are some ways  people can relieve common side effects?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

Side effects are common with every vaccine. With these vaccines they are – all three are really the same. The most common would be some soreness in the arm. Maybe some redness or swelling around the side of the vaccination. Other people have experienced chills, body aches, headaches, fever.  Again all things that are common with the immune response to the vaccine really telling us that it’s working. That your body is making an immune response. The things that people can do to alleviate symptoms are if anyone’s looking for more information you can always go to the CDC website. They have a great handout on how to alleviate these symptoms, but some of the things that we recommend locally are putting cold compress on the area if  it’s hurting or swollen. Taking something like tylenol or ibuprofen if you need to for fever, headache, and body aches. And definitely if you’re having more severe symptoms or you have questions about your symptoms, calling your doctor to follow up or if you’re feeling really ill getting emergency services help.

13 mins in:   

Question by North Coast News:  Will the J&J pause have a significant effect on overall vaccine supply locally?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

Hard to say. I think that we  know that the J&J factory issue is going to affect nationwide supplies and the  state of California have been talking about how that is going to contribute to a decrease in vaccine over the next couple of weeks.  

The pause probably won’t have a significant impact if it’s lifted in the next few days or week, considering that locally we have  plenty of vaccine on hand to make up for that.

13 mins 35 sec in:  

Question by North Coast News:  What advice do you have for people who may have just gotten the J&J vaccine?  What should people be aware of with their symptoms, and for how long (two weeks)?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

I would encourage everyone who’s getting or who’s already gotten the vaccine to sign up for the CDC app called V-Safe. It’s a place that you can put in your information about any side effects you’re having, even if they’re mild.  Even if it’s fever or chills or aches, it can also help the CDC track these much more  rare conditions. Anyone who’s gotten it, it’s still a safe vaccine; these are extremely rare events; six people out of nearly seven million is extraordinarily rare. So I don’t think anyone should be worried. If you’re having severe symptoms you should definitely seek medical attention and two to three weeks seems to be about the time frame that this particular condition might develop in someone if they were to have it. 

14 mins 55 sec in:  

Question by North Coast News: Do  you think the announcement of this pause will increase or decrease hesitancy?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

I can’t make any predictions. I hope it would not sway anyone from getting the vaccine. Any of the vaccines we know that there  are rare complications with vaccines for all of them. So if this is cleared for safety, I would encourage everyone to continue to get it. Our state health officers got the J&J and they definitely stated today that they feel great and they would do it again and  they’re not worried or concerned at all.

15 mins 40 sec in:   

Question by North Coast News: Do we have enough Moderna and Pfizer supply to vaccine  all Americans who want to by May 31?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

That’s what we’re hearing from the  federal government and I hope that’s true, but I definitely would encourage a reporter to  go seek out federal sources for that information.

16 mins in:   

Question by North Coast News: What is the county doing to reschedule J&J appointments?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

Anyone who had a J&J appointment cancelled should go to MyTurn and you should be able to reschedule that for a different kind of vaccine.


16 mins 15 sec in:  

Question by North Coast News: Are you at all concerned about the safety and  effectiveness of the J&J vaccine moving forward?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

Leaving it up to the experts at ACIP and the Western States Conference and I feel confident if they can clear this on safety that we will confidently go forward  in using J&J here in Humboldt County

16 mins 35 sec in:  

Question by Redheaded Blackbelt: Are you aware of  any local programs for providing testing to people in congregate groups? Have any local schools  implemented a regular testing strategy among students in order to monitor the level of COVID-19  on campus? Would this type of testing among a group of community members be useful in keeping  an eye on potential community transmission?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

Yeah many of the schools and youth sports groups  have implemented testing programs to monitor for COVID-19 and they’ve done that in conjunction  with both the state and local health resources. Yeah this type of testing is definitely useful and would encourage it for anyone who has a business or a group that wants to come together.  

A lot of the new guidelines from CDPH around reopening are allowing for increased capacity if you’re doing either proof of vaccination or testing so I think that clearly going forward that  more testing is going to help us feel confident and more reopening as we are in this in-between period where we have a portion of our population vaccinated but it’s not yet enough to feel confident that we’re safe, that we can all go out and and co-mingle in society, that we need to still keep some of those checks and balances and one of the most important ones would be testing.

18 mins 15 sec in:  

Question by Redheaded Blackbelt: Have any relatively new variants of concern been  identified in Humboldt recently?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

No new ones, we have had several of the West Coast variants but no other variants of concern  have been found in Humboldt County.

18 mins 30 sec in:  

Question by Redheaded Blackbelt:  If a person has been vaccinated, would they test positive for COVID-19  antibodies because of having had a vaccine shot? Is this answer the same for  all three Pfizer, Moderna and the J&J?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

So, all of the vaccines are creating an antibody to the spike protein or the S protein, so any antibody test that’s testing for the S protein would show positive, whether you had infection or if you had the  vaccine. There’s a different antibody test called the N or the nucleocapsid protein  antibody that would only be specific to infection because the vaccines  do not produce that antibody.

19 mins 15 sec in:   

Question by the Redheaded Blackbelt: Is a natural  exposure to COVID-19 as likely to prevent repeated infection from it, as a vaccine dose  would be? 

In the same way that chicken-pox parties purposely expose people to chicken-pox,  would inadvertent or purposeful exposure to COVID-19 have the same effect? 

What do you  think about concerns expressed by people hesitant to take the vaccine, who say they  would prefer to achieve “natural immunity”?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

So the evidence today definitely strongly supports that the vaccine is strong, is a better immune response than natural immunity. We have seen waning of the natural immunity within 90 days and that does not appear to be the case and so some of the thought of that is that the S protein or the the type of antibody that is being produced from the vaccine is more specific and stronger to the COVID-19 virus.

20 mins 20 sec in:   

Question by Redheaded Blackbelt: Also,  what are the local changes now that the Johnson and Johnson vaccine has been temporarily suspended?  

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

I don’t think it’s going  to change anything locally.

20 mins 35 sec in:  

Question by Reporter Daniel Mintz: At your last  supervisors’ update you said there’s been a one-per-day stream of COVID hospitalizations but  in the last few weeks the dashboard hasn’t shown that and there’s been only one new one on there in  the last week. Is there an explanation for this?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

The hospitalization rate has been going down.  It hasn’t been going down quite as fast as I think would be reflected in the case rate and we continue to have ICU admissions that would not be reflective of the current case rate, so that’s concerning, but over the last week and a half or so it has improved dramatically so hopefully we have turned a corner on that and we’ll continue to monitor that as we always have with hospitalizations and ICU admissions.

21 mins 25 sec in:   

Question by From Reporter Daniel Mintz: There’s been some  contradictory messaging lately, not long ago we were warned of another big surge and now the  expectation is a much more open summer. There were 10 new cases confirmed on Friday and 35 more  since. Considering the continued rise in cases and the apparent uncertainty, is it still too early to  be making predictions about what will happen next?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

It’s always hard to make predictions in  this pandemic. I think I would point to Michigan right now, and we hope that  would never happen here in California, but it is a cautionary tale and I think we all  need to watch that, and that’s the reason that we’ve been very cautiously reopening California and in that cautiously reopening Humboldt County.  

This is a race between the vaccine effort, the variants of concern, specifically the UK variant which we have not had here in Humboldt yet, although it is in California and our reopening effort which we want to try to keep  all those match so that we can get to that place where we have enough vaccine out there, that we feel more confident doing more opening and so that’s what we’re working towards and if it  looks like things are going in the wrong direction we would certainly have to consider closing things  back down again. I think that is something that only time would tell but hopefully will  not happen if we continue to follow the current guidelines of masking, distancing,  avoiding gatherings and following the rules that are being put out there to try to allow  us to get some normalcy without going fully back to normal until we have a lot more  vaccination. 

Community members with questions or concerns are encouraged to call 441-5000 for additional information. 

Please see the updated guidance here: cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/CDPH%20Document%20Library/COVID-19/Dimmer-Framework-September_2020.pdf.

 View the Humboldt County Data Dashboard online at humboldtgov.org/dashboard, or go to humboldtgov.org/DashboardArchives to download today’s data. 

For the most recent COVID-19 information, visit cdc.gov or cdph.ca.gov. Local information is available at humboldtgov.org or by contacting [email protected] or calling 707-441-5000. 

Some Safeway, CVS Pharmacy, Rite Aid, Walgreen’s and Walmart locations are offering COVID-19 vaccination appointments. Learn who is eligible for vaccination and see if there are appointments available at one of these locations by clicking on the links below.

Safeway: mhealthappointments.com/covidappt

CVS Pharmacy: cvs.com/immunizations/covid-19-vaccine?icid=cvs-home-hero1-link2-coronavirus-vaccine

Rite Aid: https://www.riteaid.com/covid-19

Walgreen’s: walgreens.com/findcare/vaccination/covid-19

Walmart: walmart.com/cp/1228302 

Sign up for COVID-19 vaccination: MyTurn.ca.gov

Local COVID-19 vaccine information: humboldtgov.org/VaccineInfo

Humboldt County COVID-19 Data Dashboard: humboldtgov.org/Dashboard

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2nd Amendment Security
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2nd Amendment Security
2 years ago

http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14329638

RADIATION THERAPY?

The world is so damn full of human fuck ups,… so of course, let’s kill a majority of the people…

by any (and all) means necessary.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/13/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-plan-to-release-treated-fukushima-water makes it sound like it’s been pretty well filtered and after dilution will be well below safety limits.

2nd Amendment Security
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2nd Amendment Security
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Makes it sound, makes it sound, makes it sound like more government propaganda. Tell me why the radiation detectors were shut off on the west coast after fuckashima?

Because the people are stupid, and they aren’t really important

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago

Any significant release of radiation will be noticed by other countries. Most or all wealthy countries have very accurate radiation detectors all over the place, and have since the cold war or earlier. A conspiracy to hide large radiation releases would require the combined efforts of a large portion of the world’s governments, research institutions, universities, etc etc.

2nd Amendment Security
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2nd Amendment Security
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

I just looked and found what I had learned , word of mouth

https://www.nti.org/gsn/article/audit-confirms-epa-radiation-monitors-broken-during-fukushima-crisis/

Fact that many radiation detectors were *broken*, or whatever, gives plausible deniabilty for what ever inferences made that are binding.

If you know someone who works on the radiation equipment field, reach out and ask them for their insights.

The Yurok / Karuk had their cows milk, tested from a lab in SLC, maybe you can look into those results.

It’s incredible how much information runs under the radar.

UnflappableJack
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UnflappableJack
2 years ago

Just say it, your vaccine is rubbish.

VMG
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VMG
2 years ago

Thanks Dr Hoffman!

Humboldt is lucky to have this guy.

NorCalNative
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NorCalNative
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

You might be surprised to know that on the topic of Covid, I find your comments evidence-based and most trust worthy.

Thanks old dude!

VMG
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VMG
2 years ago
Reply to  NorCalNative

Brother, we are all just learning here…

Namaste NCN, stay safe, be well…

M
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M
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

Right, vmg. Nice q. and a.

Call me crazy
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Call me crazy
2 years ago

Flemingmethod.com

“Evidence shows that this virus is
engineered with Gain of Function (GoF)
including mechanisms creating an
Inflammo Thrombotic Response (ITR) with
mRNA Reverse Transcription (RT)
into cell DNA with Prion-like structures
presence in the virus spike protein.”

Beta test?

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Call me crazy

“Richard M. Fleming may be a man of many talents, but his record as a scientist has been spotty. Fleming, who bills himself on Twitter as “PhD, MD, JD AND NOW Actor-Singer!!!”, was a co-author of short-lived paper in the journal Clinical Cardiology purporting to find health benefits from a diet with low or modest amounts of fat. The paper came out in late September — just a day before the Food and Drug Administration banned Fleming from participating in any drug studies. Why? Two prior convictions for fraud in 2009.

It didn’t take long for others to begin poking holes in the new article. One researcher found multiple errors in the data and noted that the study evidently had been completed in 2002. The journal ultimately retracted the article, citing “concerns with data integrity and an undisclosed conflict of interest by the lead author.” But Fleming, who objected to the retraction, persevered. On Nov. 5, he republished the study in another journal — proving that grit, determination, and a receptive publisher are more important than a spotless resume.”

https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2018/11/23/second-thought-man-many-talents-with-spotty-scientific-record/Jg4srjmdN0Nk9tnNyqW43H/story.html

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Call me crazy

“There doesn’t need to be any evidence or even biological plausibility, just science-y speculation that sounds impressive to people without a background in the relevant sciences. Classen’s claim that mRNA vaccines can cause prion disease leading to neurodegenerative disorders like Alzheimer’s disease is just another example of this.”
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/can-mrna-based-covid-19-vaccines-cause-prion-disease/

Actually “science-y sounding” speculation were the exact words that came to mind on reading this post.

Taurus Ballzhoff
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Taurus Ballzhoff
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Thanks Guest!

yawn.
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yawn.
2 years ago

interesting the good Dr. doesn’t get that lock downs prolong the pandemic. Yes, the curve is flattened but the area under the curve is the same…. which equals the same number of individuals being infected. science.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago
Reply to  yawn.

Wrong. Vaccination in conjunction with lockdown decreases the area under the curve.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

As well as steroids and other treatments we’ve had time to develop, lowering mortality. And avoiding overloading hospitals, which would greatly increase mortality.

UnflappableJack
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UnflappableJack
2 years ago

Denmark just halted the jab.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago

Now let’s watch the same people that have said that we were overreacting to a virus with a 2% death rate lose their minds over a vaccine side affect that impacts .00008% of recipients.

Jim Brickley
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Jim Brickley
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

What doesn’t give you blood clouts these days?

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

So the “survival rate” is averaged at 99.5%?

How can the “death rate” be 2%?

Do tell.

Xebeche
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Xebeche
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

600,000 people will have died of covid in the US by the end of this month. 6 people got blood clots from the J&J vaccine and only one died. And you think the vaccine is the problem?

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago
Reply to  Xebeche

Clearly, the poster thinks the exact opposite.

Mike
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Mike
2 years ago

Wait you have to show some form of ID to get your jab? That’s some Jim Crow right there

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Your comparison is weak sauce. Sounds like Tucker Carlson logic, twisted and inflammatory.

Benjamin Martin
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Benjamin Martin
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Tucker is the only rational voice on the Communist TV bands. All you suckers took the jab and now many will pay the price. Those of us who value liberty over (false) security will not get sick. Defy Big Pharma and Medical Industrial Complex, folks, refuse the genetic engineering masquerading as a “vaccine” (it is not legally a vaccine – look it up) and throw out your masks. Clownworld must be overthrown. The legacy of the November Coup must end. The junta in the Whitehouse must be defeated. Patriots, NOW is the time.

“Give me liberty or give me death.” – Patrick Henry

Skitty
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Skitty
2 years ago

Come on Patriots you have the 10th pick in the upcoming draft, you can turn this around.
What is this November coup you write of ?

W.H.
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W.H.
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

how convenient…

Me
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Me
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

No shit, i believe he’s mocking Biden

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

What did Biden say?

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

That stung, did it? Your response suggests so.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

Are you going on the assumption that the election was “stolen” by unprovable “widespread voter fraud”?
That the voter suppression laws the desperate GQP are trying to pass are based on “ unregistered voters”?
The poor Republican Party. Trump broke it. It does nothing but block Democrats. That’s their only function. Couldn’t come up with a health care plan. Couldn’t come up with an infrastructure plan. They can’t win many elections on policy because they have no policy. Instead of policy they push voter suppression because when Democrats turn out, they lose. It’s pathetic. Jesus Christ, can’t give people water waiting in line to vote, that’s some sick shit. What babies.
But hey, how about that Matt Gaetz? Another complete embarrassment to the GQP. I bet him and Don Jr. have done a line or two together .

Mike
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Mike
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Besides everything else you said which is incorrect, you are making fun of the last presidents son for drug use? One word, Parmesan.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

No, I’m not. But there was some questionable shit in the handling of mail-in ballots in certain areas, such as collection by partisan vote-harvesters.

Biden was caught regurgitating the Blueanon falsehoods regarding the Georgia voting law, such as decreased voting hours and access to early voting. That in addition to the trope about non-partisan election volunteers being prohibited from providing water. Blueanoners are about the only people who find the requirement for voter ID onerous. And the idea that blacks are too lame to get the required ID is racist.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

Isn’t that cute, you guys came up with the name Blueanon.
Nothing you come up with can compare with Trump inspired Insurrectionist Q brain dead propaganda and laughable lies. If Trump would have won you and I both know these Republican “voter laws” that are being rammed thru would have never even materialized. All of a sudden Republicans care about election fraud, yeah, right. Masters of gerrymandering. Look at Gym Jordan’s district, lol. The only way that dumb idiot got elected. Oh hey, Gym Jordan, under investigation for looking the other way while boys got sexually abused . Cool guy…

Thirdeye
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2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Gerrymandering is supported by political machines in both parties, to create “safe” districts and strengthen intra-party control by interest blocs. That’s why voting districts in the South are more segregated than the communities they are part of, with the consent of Democrats. It helps certain people become power brokers, although the party could arguably be stronger with less safe districts.

It’s hard to think of a more discredited conspiracy theory than Russiagate, embraced by the Blueanon “resistance.”

The federal legislative bodies have been a freak show on both sides of the aisle for years. Same applies to lots of state and local governments.

Bushytails
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2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

What falsehoods are these?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/02/us/politics/georgia-voting-law-annotated.html

“the trope about non-partisan election volunteers being prohibited from providing water”
Well, to quote the law, “… nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector … (1) Within 150 feet of the outer edge of any building within which a polling place is established; (2) Within any polling place; or (3) Within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place.”

Since water is a form of drink, non-partisan volunteers are any person, and providing water would need to be done to or near the people in line, the law seems to quite clearly state that to be the case.

Also, as the nytimes points out, long lines are more common in poorer neighborhoods with more people of color, and many other parts of the law, like reducing dropboxes, banning mobile polling places, etc, will make lines even longer.

As to voting hours, to quote the nytimes, “These new strict rules on early voting hours are likely to curtail voting access for Georgians who work daytime hours or have less flexible schedules”. Claiming that it adds a day to cancel this out isn’t a good argument, since the large cities already had more extra days – this will reduce days in large cities, while adding days in rural areas.

I could paste more, but you can read for yourself…

Thirdeye
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2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

https://archive.is/XHMRG (scroll down)

Biden’s four-Pinocchio claim defended by the new York Times. Fools!

The restrictions on gifts to voters are the same as any other restrictions of electioneering. There is nothing to prevent a precinct from providing a watering station.

Prometheus
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2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

Those were tough questions that must be addressed…

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

I didn’t know that rolling one’s eyes could sting.

Mike
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Mike
2 years ago

It might be a sign of a stroke. Do you smell burnt toast? That might actually explain allot.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago

” I think the most important thing is to hear people’s concerns listen and try to address them the best we can with information and knowledge that’s truthful and factual.”

Funny guy.

Plenty of “truthful” and “factual” going on…

Speaking of truthful:

” …but we want to remind everyone that these are also safe and effective vaccines.” ~Doc

“So we want to continue to hear everyone’s concerns and we hope that we can be open to that and move the vaccine effort forward by listening and hopefully getting more and more of our population to get vaccinated.”

We want to hear you, Hesitanters, but we need you to get the jab.

Double-speak word salad?

M
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M
2 years ago

“Question by Redheaded Blackbelt: If a person has been vaccinated, would they test positive for COVID-19 antibodies because of having had a vaccine shot? Is this answer the same for all three Pfizer, Moderna and the J&J?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman:

So, all of the vaccines are creating an antibody to the spike protein or the S protein, so any antibody test that’s testing for the S protein would show positive, whether you had infection or if you had the vaccine. There’s a different antibody test called the N or the nucleocapsid protein antibody that would only be specific to infection because the vaccines do not produce that antibody.”

That’s what I thought.

2nd Amendment Security
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2nd Amendment Security
2 years ago

“If it bleeds, it leads”

CnnCcp

https://youtu.be/9faQkIA6YNU

(The daily drip of media fear of the flu)

fred krissman
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2 years ago

Glad to say I got the J&J shot a wk before this latest hysteria blew up…

Filled out a simple form and selected an appointment online, showed up at the appointed hr, spent 15 min in the local Rite-Aid, got the one-shot I didn’t even feel, and left. Zero after effects, unlike many an annual flu shot.

Done with vaccination, and full immunity kicks in on Earth Day; off with the mask, and fear-free!

Xebeche
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Xebeche
2 years ago
Reply to  fred krissman

Please keep masking & distancing. You can still spread covid and you might be in the 5% of vulnerable folks. Let’s wait til this is really undercontrol for our rejoicing.

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2 years ago
Reply to  fred krissman

Done with vaccination for how long?
Maybe six months? A year at most?

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  fred krissman

Full immunity ?
Hook, line, and sinker you swallowed up the lies and regurgitate them. Ew. Please stop.

Echo
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Echo
2 years ago

Rand Paul is an eye doctor, yet he thinks he knows more about the virus than the experts. Smug and dillusional and bonkers at best.

2nd Amendment Security
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2nd Amendment Security
2 years ago
Reply to  Echo

It’s whether or not you can trust Rand Paul.

I don’t trust many politicians, but I did appreciate his questions to the HE/SHE deputy secretary of HHS when asked about whether genital mutilation and hormone replacement therapy for prepubescent children was ok with/out parental consent.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago

Oh look, transphobia. That’s something I never expected from people on here.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

So opposing radical medical intervention with permanent consequences on prepubescents for a dysphoric condition that reverses itself spontaneously more often than not is transphobia? Do you know why age of consent laws exist?

swine
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swine
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

How is that transphobia? You need to stop thinking you’re so woke bush

Prometheus
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2 years ago

Received my J & J vaccination at CVS Pharmacy 5 weeks ago with absolutely no side effects…