Mendocino County Coast Restaurant Defies Pandemic Protocols by Offering 50% Discount to Patrons Who Throw Away Their Masks

[All pictures provided by Mendocino resident Colin Morrow]

Fiddleheads in the town of Mendocino. [All pictures provided by Mendocino resident Colin Morrow]

In the picturesque, seaside town of Mendocino, Fiddleheads Cafe–a restaurant previously known for shutting down in June 2020 after refusing to comply with masking orders–has once again caused local consternation after owner Chris Castleman displayed a sign that reads, “Throw Your Mask(s) in our trash bin and receive 50% off your order.”[All pictures provided by Mendocino resident Colin Morrow]

Mendocino County’s Code Enforcement Supervisor John Burkes said the County had received complaints regarding Fiddleheads and is “investigating as we speak.”

When asked whether the “Throw Your Mask(s) in the Trash” sign was against the county health code, Burkes confirmed that as per Mendocino County Health orders, anybody entering or circulating in a facility is required to wear a mask.

When we asked Mendocino County 5th District Supervisor Ted Williams for comment regarding Castleman’s sign, he simply said, “Imagine the good he could do with that energy.”

In June 2020, Castleman organized a GoFundMe to help him “hire a lawyer to define our right to stay open and serve our customers.” The GoFundMe characterized Mendocino County’s attempts to enforce pandemic protocols as “3 months of attacks from a small group of activist/bullies and overreaching politicians.”

John Burkes of Code Enforcement confirmed that two notices of violations were issued to Castleman and an administrative citation in which fines were issued. When asked whether Castleman had paid the fine, Burkes explained the county provides an appeals process to anyone who is issued a fine and Castleman is currently appealing the administrative citation. 

When we reached out to Castleman for comment regarding the controversial signage, Castleman sent us another sign currently being displayed on his storefront that “sums up my take on the situation.” 

The heading of the sign reads “ATTENTION: THIS ENVIRONMENT MAY NOT BE SUITABLE TO EVERYONE.”

 

Below is the sign:

Attention COVID

Other posters displayed on Fiddlehead’s storefront provide a philosophical backdrop for Castleman’s stances with one poster portraying a Bald Eagle overlaying an American flag wrapped with the words “Be American, Buy American.”

[All pictures provided by Mendocino resident Colin Morrow]

 Another poster includes a pair of military boots with dog tags hanging off of them emblazoned across red, white, and blue accompanied by the slogan “Home of the Free, Because of the Brave.”

Another notable piece of signage on Fiddleshead’s window seems to be a nod to the sovereign citizen movement. The sign warns of “NO TRESPASSING INCLUDING ALL PUBLIC OFFICIALS OR AGENTS THEREOF.” The document cites the 2nd and 4th Amendments claiming “ALLEGED ZONING OR CODE NON-COMPLIANCES DOES NOT ESTABLISH CONSTITUTIONAL REASONS FOR ENTERING THE PROPERTY.”[All pictures provided by Mendocino resident Colin Morrow]

While Castleman continues to take on the County’s Health Orders, multiple entities in Mendocino County are continuing to push for masking compliance. The MaskUpMendo program, a collaboration between Chambers of Commerce throughout the county, businesses, and local industry, continues to spread awareness and education regarding the importance of masking to mitigate COVID-19 transmission. North Coast Opportunities continues to push out public service announcements encouraging residents to mask.

[All pictures provided by Mendocino resident Colin Morrow]Mendocino County Public Health Officer Dr. Andy Coren in a press release published last week emphasized that in the aftermath of four COVID-19 variants being discovered within the county, “whether vaccinated or not, we as a community need to abide by COVID-19 precautions to avoid another surge.” 

As Code Enforcement continues to investigate the Fiddleheads circumstance, Supervisor Burkes wanted to emphasize to the community that “we are aware of the community concerns and we’re investigating at this time. I am hesitant to say more as the investigation is still on-going.”[All pictures provided by Mendocino resident Colin Morrow]

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W.H.
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W.H.
2 years ago

“Who dares” — he demanded hoarsely of the courtiers who stood near him — “who dares insult us with this blasphemous mockery? Seize him and unmask him — that we may know whom we have to hang, at sunrise, from the battlements!”

-E.A. Poe

avenuerider
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2 years ago
Reply to  W.H.

If we don’t stand up now we will be completely enslaved!!!

VMG
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VMG
2 years ago
Reply to  avenuerider

County Governments do not have the authority to enforce masking orders. It’s totally unconstitutional, and masking orders need to be challenged in court.

Good luck to any business who tries this, BTW…

I just spent a month in Hawaii, and a person having an “estate sale” tried to get me to wear my mask, then she wanted to take my temperature and she held out her “hand sanitizer” for me to use…

Unbelievably, I walked away without perusing her precious junk sale…

Homemade masks are totally useless, they just pacify everyone. Alcohol based “hand sanitizer” may assuage your anxieties, but it doesn’t destroy virus particles or bacteria either, and, if you have a fever, you will feel chilled and kind of “upset”, so stay home…

Our government is giving us “pacifiers” that they haven’t the right to require us to use…

If you don’t like this kind of BS, don’t go to Hawaii!

They also make you get a “test” before you travel, but they never tell you that when you arrive in-state, they will make you line up and “get tested” again before you can leave the airport…

Its intrusive, Machiavellian, stupid and very annoying.

Spread the word!

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

Where in the constitution does it say that?

Really, I am asking for the part that says that.

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago

A big part of understanding the Constitution is knowing that what it doesn’t say is as important as what it does say.

expanding insignificance
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expanding insignificance
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Yeah that’s the liberty part. The part nobody seems to remember.

Jimbo
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Jimbo
2 years ago

The constitution allows A WELL REGULATED SOCIETY. That is what being legally liable in case some loon poisons or infects his customers because he chose to ignore REGULATIONS. This same man has been using those same REGULATIONS to enjoy charging people for the slop he slings…..as he shows that he ignores REGULATIONS that govern how sanitary he does so to the very people that sustain him.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago

I think page 69 covers all masking regulations Angie.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Okay Lonie.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
2 years ago

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

9th

Dave Kirby
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Dave Kirby
2 years ago

This looks more like a pissing match between the restaurant owner and the county. As a restaurant the health department can at any time inspect his establishment without a warrant. The kitchen and food service areas are subject to unannounced inspection as to cleanliness and safety.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

Thanks VMG. 👍

Way to fight the power
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Way to fight the power
2 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

Thanks for going to Hawaii for a month to be mask free on an island. That was brave. We should meet at fiddleheads for their pork sushi!

farley
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farley
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

Such silly and arrogant celebration of your own willful ignorance. I assure you, alcohol does kill viruses and bacteria, and masks of any kind are much better than none at stopping aspirated droplets on the way out and at catching their desiccated fomites on the way in. And public health agencies are well within their authority to keeping you from doing things that will hurt other people.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  farley

Like drinking yer own piss?

Exhale is related to exhaust.

Common sense to some.

farley
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farley
2 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

Unfortunately ‘common sense’ hasn’t been one of the driving forces of human advancement. It wasn’t until more enlightened and informed systems of thinking were developed that we really started to get someplace. Now we have all kinds of technology and medicine that we rely on. Evidence-based science brought us that, not ‘common sense’.

2nd Amendment Security
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2nd Amendment Security
2 years ago
Reply to  farley

Maybe in your ultimate Wisdom, we can discuss childhood obesity, childhood cancer, and all the aspects of health ignored by the *//vacxaddicts//*

farley
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farley
2 years ago

I don’t know what a “*//vacxaddict//*” is, and I don’t consider myself having Ultimate Wisdom, but I’m flattered that you think so.

Childhood obesity and cancer are problems, okay, yes.. Pretty sure we were talking about the benefits of facemasks for preventing COVID transmission.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  farley

You are being led astray. Into a trap. One that has been planned for a long while.

Propoganda is VERY real.

Common sense is needed to thwart that attempt.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  avenuerider

OMG, next thing you know Obama will be after your guns again!!

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

He gave them back? Those guns have been confiscated so many times by Democrats, I can’t keep up.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago

Are guns ok with this restaurant? Or do guns and streetglides go together? I thought someone said they saw Obama dining at this restaurant, what a good ole guy Barack is,glad he supports this establishment.

Dave Kirby
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Dave Kirby
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Obama was the best thing to happen to gun sales in decades.

Jimbo
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Jimbo
2 years ago
Reply to  Dave Kirby

CORRECTION: GOP POLITICAL PANDERING was the best thing to happen to gun sales…..

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

So he and Eric Holder can pass them on to Mexican criminal cartels? I’ll bet they would do it Fast and Furious.

Charles
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Charles
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

I hope they do dis arm this evil country, you people should travel a little then you might see how inferior you are on this earth

Mendo
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Mendo
2 years ago
Reply to  W.H.

Whose Going to go eat at Fiddle Heads? I will be making the hour drive. God bless America!
Mendocino County Government needs to Back Off and honor our constitutional rights!

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 years ago
Reply to  Mendo

LOL.

You lost the freedom to go headfirst through the windshield. Or even more importantly, have your kid go through the windshield.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago

Only if he or she has a windshield on their streetglide. Remember reading and comprehension is key Angie.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Okay, Lonie.

geezeringvard
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geezeringvard
2 years ago

No joke, 9 of us in an Impala station wagon, me and 2 others looking backwards in the third seat, 13 to 17 year olds going to the movies. LOL, 65 on the freeway. Luckey that day.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
Reply to  geezeringvard

Old Impala station-wagons were pretty much road-tanks with suspension and room for a hot-tub.

Any day you got to ride in one was a lucky day.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  Mendo

I’ll be there when in the area.

Need more like this.

Local
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Local
2 years ago
Reply to  Mendo

Not wearing a seat belt will just kill you, not wearing a mask could kill anyone you come in contact with.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  Local

Not unless you’re symptomaticm Local.

In that case, stay home.

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Local

“not wearing a mask could kill anyone you come in contact with.”

Yeah, I here all of Florida and Texas have died.

Jimbo
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Jimbo
2 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Florida-2.32million covid cases, 36,646 covid deaths.
Texas-2.95 million covid cases, 51,510 covid deaths.
As if no one died

Charles
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Charles
2 years ago
Reply to  Mendo

My wife and I will and we will throw in a cheap paper mask to help financially fuck this asswipe conservative

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  Charles

Gotta bring politics in? 🙄

Mike Hunt
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Mike Hunt
2 years ago
Reply to  Mendo

Will you be driving without your seatbelt too or riding without your helmet of by motorcycle?

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 years ago
Reply to  W.H.

Yeah, I really hate those metal masks we are wearing these days. They are exactly like medieval torture devices.

And if you believe THAT, well, that’s the real snowflake, fear based reaction reaction.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago

Kym will not allow multiple memes.

They’ll be gone as soon as she has the time.

Rule #14:

Only one image meme per article.

https://kymkemp.com/2018/05/20/commenting-rules-on-redheaded-blackbelt/

This posters memes get more deranged every month.

But as Covid denialism goes down, the efforts to promote it become more desperate.

Swine
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Swine
2 years ago
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[EDIT: Swine, I’ve just been deleting your comments that broke the rules but you just get worse. Next one. You’re banned. https://kymkemp.com/2018/05/20/commenting-rules-on-redheaded-blackbelt/ ]

Uri
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Uri
2 years ago
Reply to  W.H.

Just to recap. These face diapers we have been forced to wear don’t actually stop any virus. Most people who have been tested as positive have no to mild symptoms and are now immune. Hospital cases are significantly down.
Positive cases have well over a 99% survival rate and there are effective treatments available. You can get a vaccine if you want even though it has not been fully approved by the FDA. In other words by receiving the vaccine you will be a part of an ongoing experiment but are also presumably immune. There is talk of forcing even people who are already immune or healthy enough to survive the virus to get the unapproved vaccine.
So help me out here. Why are people who have either had the vaccine or the virus wearing masks and why would anyone else not be allowed to trust their own immune system/ treatment options and decline the vaccine and quit wearing these ridiculous face diapers.

farley
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farley
2 years ago
Reply to  Uri

Because immunity from vaccine or prior infection is much less than 100%. True, you are less likely to get super sick or die from it, but can still have an asymptomatic infection which means you can be a transmission vector. Until we reach herd immunity percentages the only way to keep this under control is to slow person-to-person transmission, so everybody gets to keep their mask on in public regardless of their antibody status.

Now you know.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  farley

It is not spread amongst asymptomatic people.

Educate yourself Farley. Turn off the tv.

Duck-duck “10 million study China”.

And you might want to revisit the theory of “herd immunity”. Preferably from a source pre-2020.

Now YOU know.

farley
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farley
2 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

“It’s not spread among asymptomatic people?” ffs/smh where did you latch onto that idea? You my friend are the one who has a fact deficit in your belief system.

I don’t know what you think “asymptomatic” means, but its when you have the viral _infection_ and for whatever reason, you have little or possibly no symptoms of _disease_. A person with an asymptomatic infection CERTAINLY CAN infect another person, this is not up for debate. Even tho the virus isn’t messing you up so much or at all, it’s multiplying in your body and you are spewing viral particles all over the place. Asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic infections ARE the big problem with COVID and part of the reason it turned into a pandemic.

Specific to the _news_ article you cite, once again read it again and pay attention to the details, including this part:

“The researchers said that their findings did not show that the virus couldn’t be passed on by asymptomatic carriers, and they didn’t suggest that their findings were generalisable.”

Here’s an actual authoritative source:

“COVID-19: asymptomatic carrier transmission is an underestimated problem”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7322154/

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  farley

You’re right, it shouldn’t be “up for debate”.

Since you cannot do the search yourself:

Biggest study of it’s kind. 10mil people involved.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w (peer reviewed)

Must be that “deficit”.

Non-fiction
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Non-fiction
2 years ago
Reply to  W.H.

Seems almost everyone here, including Chris at Fiddleheads, failed biology class.

F**k your beliefs and your so called rights to relentlessly impinge others with brazen and willful ignorance.

Read the health orders and you will see they are far from black/white…the details within, and details left out, allow for constitutional rights to be retained without impingement.

Microbiology is not a belief…nor is science a belief system.

If you don’t believe me, then throw all your little toys, beer, wine, cars, tvs, computers, light bulbs, water pumps, water heaters, hvac, bridges, and almost everything else away.
And go enjoy your absbestos smoothie and coal fume cloud in your house.
See where that leaves you with your beliefs.

Remember polio or smallpox?

Probably not…bcuz science eliminated them from the USA before you were born.

With freedom comes responsibility.

And clearly responsibility should be left for the adults since the children here can’t even handle the discussion of it with throwing a tantrum or making up s**t to support their delusions of belief.

Masks do not stop air flow…it’s a brain/psychology issue.

Particulate filtration is not a new concept.
Ask the contractor who gets in your attic if they just love breathing extruded glass fibers or if they wear a mask.
Without masks germ-warfare would’ve never been a thing….cuz all the scientists would’ve been dead in hours or weeks.
Masks are not perfect filters (hence the N95, 95% of .3micron particles & larger)…but properly used respirators are very close…99.7-99.997%+.

Check the facts and stop parroting bozos, bozos.

The constitution does not give anyone the right to blindly harm others, or threaten to, intentionally or otherwise…
…unless it’s corporate welfare of course but thats another story for the books.

It’d be real nice if at least half the commenters here knew what due diligence is….or could define a hypothesis vs a theory vs a Proof.

Anyone heard of QED?

If I believed half of what’s said here then 2+2=7.

Somebody needs to squeegee their 3rd eye clean cuz mosta you folks, as my grandfather would say, have sh*t*ss, and it’s showing.

Swine
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Swine
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

Hahaha if they sqeegeed their 3rd eye they’d see thru the bullshit which apparently u don’t. Take your own advicr

Non-Fiction
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Non-Fiction
2 years ago
Reply to  Swine

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/NPPTLInfographics.html

The link to graphics,above, might keep it simple enough for those struggling to understand.

The links to actual study abstracts might help some really get it:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32512240/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33642918/

For the willfully ignorant and intentionally stupid there seems no amount of evidence, among the throngs of it, that will move them from their confirmation bias.

Skepticism for the sake of it is a twisted joke.

https://skepticalinquirer.org/

https://centerforinquiry.org/coronavirus/

Help humanity by inoculating your brain from misinformation, disinformation, & plain old bullsh*t.

Please don’t parrot stupidity.

Do what you want in your own private space…home, car, etc…within your reach, 6ft, outside…but everywhere else is either common ground or others’ private ground…
No one has personal liberty to do as they wish, without some restraint, in the commons or other’s private space….i.e. businesses.

Not wearing a mask in a open to the public, private business is not a crime…but not leaving when told to is tresspassing…that’s what most people have been tagged for, except for the real idiots that assault and batter people while trying to stand up for their freedum. All so they can risk exposing others to their personal brand of idiocy and spit.

Please children…grow up.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-Fiction

Your second link:

“The study suggests that community mask use by well people could be beneficial, particularly for COVID-19, where transmission may be pre-symptomatic.”

Emphasis on “could be”.

“Face masks should not be worn by healthy individuals to protect themselves from acquiring respiratory infection because there is no evidence to suggest that face masks worn by healthy individuals are effective in preventing people from becoming ill. ”

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762694?fbclid=IwAR2RE-c4V-fhUodui0JQRbiHRcgEJuDKG_21N4oL5zAfciQfWCyHAsetJmo

Choices, choices….

“Get it”?

farley
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farley
2 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

In the example you cite (again) “face masks” are for preventing your spittle from infecting other people, “respirators” are for protecting you by filtering the air you breath in.

2nd Amendment Security
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2nd Amendment Security
2 years ago
Reply to  farley

Death by the disease or death by the cure.

Explain the wisdom of unchecked illegal immigration when over 10% are positive

Go support the mask less border, and a real drain on your argument for safety at the expense of security.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  farley

Right about face masks. Don’t do a dang thing in preventing viral spread.

As for your preferred n95(again):

“N95 respirators cannot be used by individuals with facial hair or by children because it is difficult to achieve a proper fit.”

Sucks if you have a beard.

” Because N95 respirators require special fit testing, they are not recommended for use by the general public.”

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762694?fbclid=IwAR2RE-c4V-fhUodui0JQRbiHRcgEJuDKG_21N4oL5zAfciQfWCyHAsetJmo

farley
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farley
2 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

So shave your beard or take a tip from SCUBA divers and smear it full of Vaseline. Or get a snorkel mouthpiece. I mean, there’s only so much you can expect. The universe doesn’t owe you a perfect solution.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  farley

Perfect solution = No Mask.

Disclaimer: I do wear an N95 when grinding fibreglass. 🏄‍♂️

2nd Amendment Security
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2nd Amendment Security
2 years ago
Reply to  farley

Neither do you.

Beekind
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Beekind
2 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

If people insist mask-wearing is a political issue, my view is that wearing a mask is a patriotic act. On the one hand, I am sympathetic to the restaurant industry that has been extremely hard hit financially by the pandemic. On the other hand, I still insist that masks primarily serve to prevent you from transmitting the disease to other people in our community. Wearing a mask in public is a simple act of civic responsibility.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

Your blind. Most people wear cloth masks so yeah, they don’t work. Probably fueled spread. Also there have been no excess deaths this year, just a lot of recategorized ones. 23 flu deaths as of January 2021 when there were almost 18,000 flu deaths by January 2020, c’mon doesn’t take a genius to figure that out. Deaths from heart disease are down over 25% from last year, when all people have been doing is sitting at home and eating. America gained a ton of weight during the pandemic, but heart disease decreased by 25%. Huh. We shouldn’t be upset about last year, we should be rejoicing. Sure hundreds of thousands died from COVID, but we somehow managed to cure everything else. That means once this vaccine is finished being rolled out, thanks to Pres. Trump, we should have cured just about every major health issue in the United States.

Non-Fiction
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Non-Fiction
2 years ago

You’re either making SH*T up again 1911, OR you’re parroting outright lies and misinformation without checking the facts.
Doing so intentionally is disinformation meant to mislead people.

https://www.indexmundi.com/dashboards/us-deaths/

Heart disease diagnoses may have reduced last year…but not deaths from it.

I know it can be hard to stick to the facts…rather than making assumptions and parroting crap that millions of people who don’t know better post on the internet, but try harder please much harder.

These lies are a significant part of why 550K+ people are dead in US….while Vietnam has 35 dead from 2626 cases.

Viruses don’t care what you think or believe…only whether or not you have defenses or not.

You trust in your 1911 for defense, I’m sure because it’s an effective and very dependable tool when used by a competant and trained person…so then what’s so hard to understand about using a mask to defend yourself and others from a contagious and transmissible microbe that has the potential to kill .5-1.5 people out of 100???

End the Absurdity of Willful Ignorance

2nd Amendment Security
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2nd Amendment Security
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-Fiction

Let’s see put your financial security up, mortgage your homes, if you are interested In proving to anyone that you have ANY IDEA, what liability protection means.

So KEEP spouting off the establishment talking points, that actually have no way to guarantee ……..

***safety or effectiveness***

Jimbo
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Jimbo
2 years ago

In a normal year, between 20 million and 40 million Americans get sick with the flu. This translates to about one in ten people. 2020 flu season saw less than 1/3 of those numbers because of masks and social distancing.

Heart disease deaths 2019-659,021
Heart disease deaths 2020-690,882
Source, CDC vital statistics

I am guessing that that poster gets lots of things in life wrong by their own want/hand.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

If intelligence was half as popular as liberty, we would have hundreds of thousands Americans not dead from a communicable disease this year.

Dave Kirby
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Dave Kirby
2 years ago
Reply to  W.H.

I do understand that this guy has issues with masking but the 50% discount tells me he has no comprehension of Retail 1A. Even if this stunt does bring in twice the business the bottom line doesn’t improve and the cost of goods and salaries could be an expensive mistake. Be interesting to see how this shakes out.

Simon Ferocious
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Simon Ferocious
2 years ago
Reply to  W.H.

FIDDLEHEADS CAFE NOMINATED FOR AWARD
Evolution in Action in the Town of Mendocino

Mendocino, California, April 1, 2021. Chris Castleman and Fiddleheads Cafe have been nominated for the prestigious Darwin Awards, Northern California Division.
Founded in 1993 by neurobiologist Wendy Northcutt, the Darwin Awards commemorate individuals who strengthen the gene pool by sacrificing their own lives. The prizes are awarded to those who eliminate themselves in a spectacular manner, thereby increasing the possibility of Homo sapiens’ long-term survival.
Fiddleheads Cafe was shut down in June after Castleman refused to comply with Mendocino County Health orders, which mandate that anyone entering or circulating in a business is required to wear a mask.
Castleman organized a GoFundMe to help him “hire a lawyer to define our right to stay open and serve our customers.” The cafe owner characterized Mendocino County’s attempts to enforce pandemic protocols as “3 months of attacks from a small group of activist/bullies and overreaching politicians.”
A sign in the window of Fiddleheads Cafe on Lansing Street reads “Throw Your Mask(s) in our trash bin and receive 50% off your order.”

Jimbo
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Jimbo
2 years ago

Anyone can nominate anyone. Means absolutely nothing. A smarter person would have known this.

Lysergicacidamide
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Lysergicacidamide
2 years ago
Reply to  W.H.

Lol why is it so hard to put dang mask on it takes like two seconds. Im losing hope in humanity.

Mrs Bach
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Mrs Bach
2 years ago
Reply to  W.H.

[edit] You seem to not understand science or the constitution. Doesn’t surprise anyone with criteria thinking skills. Well, people who disregard life often pay for it. You can you can use whatever regurgitated lies you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that your DEAD WRONG! Would never go to your place to eat.

YoudoyouandI’lldome
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YoudoyouandI’lldome
2 years ago
Reply to  Mrs Bach

Good job! Take a stand and defeat this boolcrap. HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!

Jimbo
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Jimbo
2 years ago

More like Home of the Arrogantly Ignorant who play themselves. As if any of you anti-mask loons are going to refuse burdening our medical system if you do get sick. Then its OH WHY DIDN’T ANYONE TELL ME, I AM SUCH THE VICTIM, OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD LISTEN TO ME. Yet the self placed arrogant ignorance continues. Would not be so bad if it only killed off the Darwin Award contenders, but they act ENTITLED to also kill the society that sustains them too because narcissists do not care about others as much as being a petty manbaby whenever asked to consider others.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago

If I lived closer, I’d be very tempted to show up and park my truck on the wooden sidewalk, blocking their front door. After all, if no one can tell them what to do, surely no one can tell me what to do either, and they can just live with it.

Mike
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Mike
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Wouldn’t that put you closer than 6 feet?

no
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no
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Closer then 6 feet to whom? Doors are not people.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

I’d love to see you call this person’s bullying behavior.

Freedomrings
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Freedomrings
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

I’m not sure how you make the leap from defying orders which are, by all facts and data, criminalizing normal behavior to “doing whatever you want”. Last I checked as an adult in America going to the beach and cooking people meals doesn’t really fall into the category of just “doing whatever I want”. Common law dictates that doing whatever you want is the definition of personal liberties as long as you are not causing harm to another person or their property. If you chose to take your truck and block their property off you would indeed be doing harm but I guess that’s why we need martial law – there’s so many folks that can’t understand normal thinking and respect basic human rights. i’m not arguing whether masks right right or wrong or whether or not it’s important to wear one – i’m arguing that this is America so everybody should be allowed to act on their own belief on the subject and every private business should be allowed to dictate whether or not they enforce mask rules or not. elderly and at risk people can choose to avoid these business. It’s really that simple.

Freedom Rocks
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Freedom Rocks
2 years ago
Reply to  Freedomrings

Amen!

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Freedomrings

“It’s really that simple.”

It really is that simple. Thank you freedomrings. Unfortunately you can’t reason with ignorance. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Freedomrings

How dare you speak in such logical terms! You just be scared! Afraid! And you must subject yourself to the government for the safety of everyone else!

farley
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farley
2 years ago
Reply to  Freedomrings

Yep:

“Common law dictates that doing whatever you want is the definition of personal liberties as long as you are not causing harm to another person or their property.”

This is the basis of public health. Put your damn mask on when you are out in public.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  farley

Put your own damn mask on. Huff your own fumes. Be afraid. Watch more tv.

Me, nope.

farley
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farley
2 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

That’s why we give public health mandates force of law, so people like you who refuse to follow the logic don’t get your own version of the truth. Democracy means having a public debate, and then everybody follows the consensus. You might be determined to hold out forever, but even if you can’t bring yourself to agree your job is to get with the program.

2nd Amendment Security
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2nd Amendment Security
2 years ago
Reply to  farley

Constitutional Republic Farley. …

Its a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.

REPEAT AFTER ME.

We live in a

****CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC*****

THE needs of the many do not overrun the needs of the individual.

Move your ass to the UK, CANADA. Oz. …

farley
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farley
2 years ago

Agreed, constitutional republic .. enabled by democracy.

As far as the needs fo the many etc, I think you mean to say the desires of the many don’t trump the rights of the individual. Also agree, which is why gay marriage and RTKBA will both win in the end no matter the opinion of the majority. As a fellow 2A fan you are no doubt already familiar with the 3 levels of scrutiny when it comes to laws that encumber constitutionally guaranteed rights.

That being the case, I would challenge you to make a cogent constitutional argument for why public safety mandates like masking up fail.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  farley

Wow. I just reread that Farley.

Brilliantly Hitler-esque.

Thanks. True colors and all.

(North Korea has nice beaches, I hear)

Jimbo
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Jimbo
2 years ago
Reply to  Freedomrings

Cooking OTHER PEOPLE meals requires REGULATION. People can not just start feeding without licenses and permits so the public knows minimum rules are being followed. It is called A REGULATED SOCIETY. Just because some of you are extremely narcissistic does not mean regulations do not apply to you WHEN DEALING WITH OTHER PEOPLE.

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Give it a try. I would imagine the owner wouldn’t take long to convince you to move it.

What you are suggesting is bullying. You want to force others to comply. This man is standing up to bullies.

Free estimates
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Free estimates
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Bushy, are you going to fire your gun in the air too; because that’s exactly as deadly as not wearing a mask in public?
I’d love to see you and inspector Brian make good on all this hyperbole you throw around.

Jimbo
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Jimbo
2 years ago
Reply to  Free estimates

I doubt your ‘free estimates’ are anywhere near reality with that comment. When we have 592,000 celebratory gunfire deaths hitting the news get back to us.

UnflappableJack
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UnflappableJack
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Do it, and block a fire exit. After all it’s better to watch people burn because they don’t wear a boot-licker mask. Right?????

Local
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Local
2 years ago

It sure is.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Or masking people are charged double and the discount is the normal charge.

Jay
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Jay
2 years ago

Entitlement is real!

Thesteve4761
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Thesteve4761
2 years ago

At least the story’s posted on the right day on the calendar.

Right on
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Right on
2 years ago

That’s awesome, I’m glad some businesses are taking a stand. This flu has put way too many out of business especially restaurants. I think if people are that worried about getting it then they should get the shot , stay home and mind thier own business. Too many Karen’s and maskholes out there these days with nothing better to do then run around telling others they need to live in fear as well. This is still America and we still have our rights to choose for ourselves

Puest
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Puest
2 years ago
Reply to  Right on

I have but 1 question for you, what kind of Flowers do you want??? For your Funeral that is & I SO HOPE you don’t take any innocent souls with you, when you go!!!! Don’t let the door hit you where the dog should have bit you!!!

Free estimates
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Free estimates
2 years ago
Reply to  Puest

I like dhalias. I also like orchids. Maybe some irises or violets? Tulips are nice as well. Or maybe some fresh spears of super silver haze (mmm…). Just keep that baby’s breath crap outta there. That’s filler of the flower world.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  Free estimates

Puest, you just made Right On’s point.

(be very afraid)

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Puest

Shit! A virus that 99% of people survive! Be afraid! Oh no! A virus that most people are asymptomatic! Be scared! Run! A virus that is little more than a cold to most people who do get sick! Shityofreakinpants!

Jimbo
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Jimbo
2 years ago

You can choose to ignore the many allegedly MILD covid cases where long term side effects linger long after the infection has cleared, but then narcissists seldom ever pay any attention to the society around them if the topic is not about themselves.

MathWorks
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MathWorks
2 years ago
Reply to  Right on

If you think that influenza is in the same family as corona viruses, that shows how little you understand about the science of this virus. Why should we listen to people like yourself who fail to grasp even the most basic components of what this virus is? My kindergarten seems to have a better grasp of the science behind this virus than half the people commenting here, and that is really scary.

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  MathWorks

That’s right. It’s not a flu. It is a nasty cold.

Jimbo
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Jimbo
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Colds are Adenovirus, Rhinovirus, Respiratory Syncytial Virus too Sparky.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  MathWorks

Didn’t you hear that math is racist?

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  MathWorks

I don’t believe it was literal, Mathworks.

Calm down. Take that mask off and breathe.

Daffodils are blooming…

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Right on

“Too many Karen’s and maskholes”

Right on right on! Well said!

Bandanna-Man
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Bandanna-Man
2 years ago

Another group of folks who don’t know why John Wayne always had his bandanna at the ready.
I think these folks need to read some old west history.

Johnny Eureka
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Johnny Eureka
2 years ago
Reply to  Bandanna-Man

John Wayne was not a sissy boy like all you paranoid maskers. The scamdemic brings out the lunatic Bernie Bros in everyone. More power to the business owner!

Nobody
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Nobody
2 years ago
Reply to  Johnny Eureka

John Wayne was a racist asshole.
End of discussion!

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Nobody

“John Wayne was a racist asshole.”

Kinda redundant no? He is white after all. Of course he’s a racist asshole.

Jimbo
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Jimbo
2 years ago
Reply to  rollin

“I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility,” JOHN WAYNE said. “I don’t believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people.”

“I don’t feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them, if that’s what you’re asking. Our so-called stealing of this country from them was just a matter of survival. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.”-John Wayne

You ain't that pretty!
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You ain't that pretty!
2 years ago

Putting on masks suck, but it makes sense. You ever notice how much spit comes out? It’s not too comforting knowing the restauranteur doesn’t understand basic germ theory. Masks aren’t such a big deal to wear, but also only part of the plan to get over this. Government should also be ready to slack off a bit once things get better. Too heavy handed a reaction to bad judgement can push folks into goofy emotional responses.

nevertrustacop
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nevertrustacop
2 years ago

wear a mask and go do some work.i suggest sanding or shoveling dry soil. common sense and observation will quickly prove to you how infantile it is to believe a mask is protecting you.

Jimbo
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Jimbo
2 years ago
Reply to  nevertrustacop

Try ACTUALLY sanding, you will wish you had a mask. ACTUAL common sense says virus comes from other people’s noses and mouths, not magic Sparky. It is a word only known for decades spelled A-I-R-B-O-R-N.

lauracooskey
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lauracooskey
2 years ago

Meh. Now you know where not to eat if you like masks!

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
2 years ago

People are so thick headed. All we are being asked is to take care of the elders and the sick. If we can’t get together on that then we have some serious problems. Mendocino has a lot of elderly. How disrespectful of this guy. Wrapping himself in the flag like other unpatriotic trump supporters.

Local
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Local
2 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

No patriot at all, a selfish and reckless prick.

Puest
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Puest
2 years ago
Reply to  Local

YES!!!!

Long Time Local
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Long Time Local
2 years ago
Reply to  Local

He’s an imbecile & always has been since opening!!

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
2 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

I think it’s disrespectful to force people to cover their mouths all day, etc.
It IS considerate to the to wear masks in public, I get it, but doesn’t it reek of churchish conformity?
We have serious social problems, The Scientific Covid Industrial Complex is one of them.
What else are these “science” obsessed cyborgs tampering with in labs with our tax money?

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 years ago
Reply to  Canyon oak

I know! It’s like they are requiring shoes and shirts to eat in a restaurant. Tyranny. Churchish conformity!

Xebeche
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Xebeche
2 years ago

And SEATBELTS. DRIVERS LICENSE, DOUBLE YELLOW LINE!!! Oh the horror. Oh the oppression.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
Reply to  Xebeche

Fiddlesticks should turn their fridges off.

Brown maggot meat is true freedom.

Fuck it, I’m going to park my car in their dining room and eat outside.

Free estimates
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Free estimates
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Let’s see it! You can do it health inspector Brian!

Freedomrings
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Freedomrings
2 years ago
Reply to  Canyon oak

People are so thickheaded. All we are being asked to do is cover our faces and become obedient DNA sequences, willingly subject to mass experimentation, social engineering, and the reduction of our very essence into mineable data to be packaged and re-sold back to us as Insta Grat-ification. The world has way too many people end it will be much better when the 1% of the population that owns everything has 💯 percent control – but don’t worry that isn’t what this is about at all. “They”would never try and do that (again).
Plus we all loved watching the matrix and the dark crystal – And remember how much everybody loved the “Borg” in Star Trek – this will be fun!

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  Freedomrings

👍

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

Or, OR, the scared old folks could just not eat there. Funny, the biggest demographic of people not wearing masks that I’ve seen through this whole pandemic are old men.

avenuerider
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2 years ago

me too!!!

Mendo
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Mendo
2 years ago

I will be driving from Willits to fiddleheads today for lunch. Screw Mendocino County Code Enforcement. He needs to charge any government entity $10,000 per day for entry! Posted the same sign befoee for code enforcement and they decided to take a diffetent stance. Everyone hates bullies whether code enforcement or any other bully government agency who uses threats and violence as a way of getting us to comply. Screw Mendocino County!

Jimbo
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Jimbo
2 years ago
Reply to  Mendo

And my name is Francis and I live in the Vatican…..

Me
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Me
2 years ago

Just imagine…if everyone, including tRump, listened to the SCIENCE AND ACTUAL FACTS, then the world would be rid of this a lot faster. Be a true patriot, and care about those around you. Don’t be a selfish fool.

marilyn
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marilyn
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

I’m with Me!

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  marilyn

as you reach for that Trump vaccine. It’s living in a socialist fantasy to think that more regulation of those who resist regulation is an effective tool. It like thinking if one unit of vitamins are a good thing, a thousand will work better even it makes the person sick.

The self destructive people so religiously hating Trump are the reason that failure to control the pandemic was inevitable. Silly people. You can’t have your aggressive , hatefilled agenda and your expectations that those you kick in the teeth will happily join in your agenda on everything else simultaneously.

Puest
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Puest
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

This sounds exactly LIKE how THE Trump admin treated EVERYONE!!!!

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

It’s living in a socialist fantasy to think that more regulation of those who resist regulation is an effective tool.

Enforcement of current regulations would be better than more regulations and less enforcement.

And how do you link what your saying to “socialist”?

The self destructive people so religiously hating Trump are the reason that failure to control the pandemic was inevitable. 

So if I understand your circle of logic, Republicans like Dick Cheney were the reason Obamacare was created?

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

You missed the point. Trump did not create his voters. People showering their venom on their fellow citizens did. And continue today their assuming they are the only honest, empathetic people in the country while doing so. Such aggressive rhetoric turned many people from standing on the sidelines to active opposition. These Trump harvested in the millions but they were first raise by the left.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Yeah, we “effete corps of impudent snobs”, “ideological eunuchs,” “professional anarchists,” and “vultures who sit in trees.” *** raised the MAGA minions. Who are indeed in many, many cases conspiracy theorists and science deniers.

***In case you are too young to remember, those words are from the Vice President of the United States, Spiro Agnew talking about the left basically. Of course Agnew later had to resign because of corruption so blatant it couldn’t be ignored. That often gets forgotten because of Watergate.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Oh bullshit. Just stop already. As a Republican or whatever you are, your little blame game isn’t convincing. You poor victims, everything you do is in reaction to the evil Democrats. Get a grip and own voting in the worst President the US has ever had.
Republicans have nothing going on. Nothing, unless you count the big voter suppression bills they’re trying to pass in 43 states because by their own admission, Republicans can’t win elections when there is a robust voter turnout. Why is that? Because Republican policy ( if and when they have some ) sucks. Let’s not forget the religious extremism thrown in for good measure.
What a cop out …

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

That twitter by Zuby is spot on. And notice that the angriest most ignorant assholes preaching “science” on this thread are the ones with no understanding of science, completely ignoring Florida and Texas. Or worse yet, trying to use them to make a point-LOL!

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

No, you just don’t have a good point.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I disagree trb.

VERY good point rollin’.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Guest,

I guess if you’re right than Trump and the socialist hating rhetoric of his minions and exploiters are ACTUALLY working to bring America into a new socialist majority era.

It’s a weird logic circle, but I think I’m getting it.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

What is the limiting factor in hate as a tool of politics? Winning. And then failing in the promise of doing better than what was hated. Socialism, if given power, always fails because, once hate and blame have ousted their chosen villains, they are expected to produce on their promises. They find they are not just as bad as those they replace but, paralyzed by their own habitual need to control each other, unable to avoid making every problem worse.

Eyeball Kid
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Eyeball Kid
2 years ago
Reply to  marilyn

Re, “I’m with Me!” …

Funny, marilyn.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

And what exactly is that REAL SCIENCE, Me?

Whatever msm tells you?

🐏

[edit]
Guest
[edit]
2 years ago

Who cares? Both sides are full of awful people, the ones that are “ mask nazi’s “and the “anti mask nazi’s”,, just get over yourselves.

I wear a mask when I need to, but otherwise I don’t think we need continue to wear mask around town like it’s saving anyone, the air and water we drink is worse than this virus..and stupidity is at its finest on Both sides, it’s not political.

[Please change your name. No more comments using this moniker will be allowed.]

Ernie Branscomb
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2 years ago

God bless America! No matter what you say or do, half the people will disagree with you.

Moo Cow
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Moo Cow
2 years ago

Left off! I represent that remark. Guessing I’m part of the 50% that agree with you. :*p

Scooter
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Scooter
2 years ago

We should all go in there bare ass naked after a long day working in the sun. After all, people have a right to cool off, right? No one can force me to put my pooter in a mask, right?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
Reply to  Scooter

If he cuts holes in the seats so patrons can shit on the floor while they eat…..

I think he would compliment his selfish-half-idiocy well.

Shit on @ fiddlesticks!

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

You should love McDonald’s, Nike and the NFL then, they are the true bastions of approved social awareness

Charles Brandenburg
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Charles Brandenburg
2 years ago

We live right around the corner. I hope everyone comes with 2 mask, one for this asswipes pile and one to wear after you pay half price. Make him go broke. Deplorable people

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago

I like deplorables. It’s the communist scum who want to rule my life that I despise.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago

No surprise. Everyone knows that part of being a ReAl PaTrIoT is spreading Covid far and wide and that wearing that scary piece of cloth might make you appear weak. So yeah, head on down there PaTrIoTs, you’ll show mask wearers a thing or two!!
For full effect, festoon your vehicles with as many American and Trump flags and banners as can possibly fit. That’ll show everyone what a tough non-sheeple person you are. Make sure you stick your chest out and look down on all the silly mask wearers you encounter.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

No. Most people know that being a real patriot involved not hating your own country and fellow citizens even if you disagree with them. So real patriots are not anyone you are able to see.

Mike
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Mike
2 years ago

So just to be clear, everyone is ok with no one wearing a mask the entire time they are eating inside a confined space, but you are losing it over someone not wearing a mask when they walk from the door to the table? That’s literally what we are talking about here. I never understand the things people are upset by? You know what? everyone who is upset should hold a protest in front of his business, make sure you stand close together and yell, you know to save my grandma and all.

Freedomrings
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Freedomrings
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike

“How dare you question the lynch mob! don’t you understand he’s killing old people! You should go spread feces all over the place because SCIENCE!!”

It’s crazy to see how many people are so ignorant and emotionally stunted that their own hypocrisy is entirely lost upon them. None of the people here who are upset about this or upset because they truly are concerned for somebody’s life being jeopardized by this business not making you wear masks when you get up to go to the bathroom.
They are upset because they choose obedience when others choose freedom…..you’re gonna be angry when you’re giving that much of your power away to a government that ain’t going to ever give you shit back.
Also, being angry and spiteful never made you the more virtuous person. Not once.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Freedomrings

Hey, maybe his restaurant can create a mini-super spreader event in the name of FrEeDoM and someone can carry the virus back to a loved one!! That’s what TrUe FrEeDoM is , the freedom to have no responsibility like little kids .
Saddle up all you John Wayne wannabes, play out in your silly minds what tough guys you are, maybe wear a cowboy hat to make the cosplay complete. Man, you’ll own every mask wearing lib within 200 miles!!
Bon Appetit *chef’s kiss*

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  Freedomrings

Exactly, Freedomrings.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Right on Mike. Good point.

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike

I know right, it’s all strange satire, the mask cult.
Eating in doors around others, that ok according to the mobs science

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Canyon oak

What’s stranger is the No-mask Cult.
But what can you expect from people that follow an orange-skinned Grifter with MAJOR legal troubles like good Culties?
Mar a lago is experiencing a mini spreader event . Explain that all you “freedom fighters”.

Swine
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Swine
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Not everyone who doesn’t like masks is a trump supporter.. try getting outside your box

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Swine

Nobody “likes “ masks.
Get out of your box..

Swine
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Swine
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

I think you know what I meant but are trolling

nevertrustacop
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nevertrustacop
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

ive already heard from several people that they have learned to take comfort in it. it is a “blankie” for adults. so yea, some people do like their little pacifier masks

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  nevertrustacop

Definitely. I know plenty.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Are you not over orange yet?

I think some are permanently damaged. He really got under your skin eh?

Dude’s gone.

“No-mask” is normal. The cult is the opposite. It’s a joke…..

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike

“So just to be clear, everyone is ok with no one wearing a mask the entire time they are eating inside a confined space, but you are losing it over someone not wearing a mask when they walk from the door to the table?”

Exactly. Any mask Nazi’s want to address this very credible point? Crickets!

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago

Health codes are bullying him.

His family is threatened.

This family will know true freedom and be safe from communism when they shit in their kitchen and don’t wash their hands before serving your plate!

America, Fuck Yeah!

Yeah,sure
Guest
Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

They’re VICTIMS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Of MASKS !!!!!!!!!!!
Have some sympathy !!!!!!! (Sarc)

In my 1911 I trust
Guest
In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

So you are losing it because someone isn’t requiring you to wear a mask while you walk 10ft from the door to the table, where it is then ok for you to remove your mask to eat? Care to explain “the science” behind that?

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago

Mental gymnastics.

It’s part of tha new normy thingy.

Jimbo
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Jimbo
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Show me a person ignoring one health code and I will show you a person who ignores many health regulations. I would not be surprised if he gives people whatever disease he carries by not having proper hygiene.

North west
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North west
2 years ago

Just looking at the outside of that place would be enough to stop me.
His signage reminds me of how turmup would molest our flag when ever he got close to it.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  North west

Well that solves the problem. No one will force you to go.

nevertrustacop
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nevertrustacop
2 years ago

and then everyone died.

Mendo
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Mendo
2 years ago

On our way now!
God Bless the USA!

Mr. Bear
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Mr. Bear
2 years ago

That entrance is not ADA compliant. Who’s going to tell him?

local observer
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local observer
2 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Bear

Jason Singleton

Free estimates
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Free estimates
2 years ago
Reply to  local observer

That’s the name. Couldn’t remember who it was that shut down the Arcata porter street location. [edit]

local observer
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local observer
2 years ago
Reply to  Free estimates

i wouldn’t say that’s what shut down Arcata Porter Street. I would say it was an excuse to shut it down.

Free estimates
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Free estimates
2 years ago
Reply to  local observer

I would. They were sued and didn’t want to bear the expense of the lawsuit. Are you a fan of needless litigation that costs local businesses money while enriching private individuals that are not even interested in the enterprises they are championing?

Do you work for EPIC?

local observer
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local observer
2 years ago
Reply to  Free estimates

i am a fan of Porter Street and New York Pizza. that guy sued over a 100 business’s in a year. a simple removal of the old pump island, bathroom upgrades, and appropriate parking stripping seemed to work. its an old gas station. its the same owner.

MAGAdsden
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MAGAdsden
2 years ago

I will drive over from laytonville this weekend. Gonna take the family to lunch and tip heavily to compensate for the discount. Nice to see that there are a few people who understand freedom, basic rights and personal responsibility left in the world.

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  MAGAdsden

” Nice to see that there are a few people who understand freedom, basic rights and personal responsibility left in the world.”

Amen. All hope is not YET lost!

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
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UHURU

Love to be a mendo funeral parlor!
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Love to be a mendo funeral parlor!
2 years ago

Stop your whining, you selfish, ignorant babies! You’ve all been duped by your fatalistic cult and it’s pedophile leader. Where are you when it’s time to defend the poor or homeless or victims of police or victims of racism or mass shootings of women- you know, actual oppression against our citizens? You’re at home watching propaganda and eating that ignorance for breakfast lunch and dinner. Refusing to wear a mask doesn’t make you a patriot. It makes you an ASSHOLE!! So, enjoy your pandemic party at fiddleheads( much like an anti vaxx chicken pox party). It will likely be your last as fiddleheads should be closed indefinitely and you and your associates may be too ill to attend another. Of course, your lack of vaccinations and common sense will likely keep you socially ostracised. Have a blessed day!

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago

Ya know, I had this COVID crap and it really wasn’t bad at all. I just can’t get behind all this fear. Yeah it’s a new disease, yes it has a 99% survival rate, it’s also very contagious and new. Elderly die from the common cold all the time, so obviously any new virus will hit them hardest. As far as humans go, there are a lot of trees in the forest, some are going to fall. Is it a bummer for those that die? Yes. Is it anything to sacrifice our freedom over? No. Will this vaccine keep you from getting a deadly illness and dying? Absolutely not. Will it keep you from getting COVID? According to the experts, no. Will your freedom be restored by taking the vaccine? No. So is there any point to taking the vaccine? That’s up to you to decide.

Jimbo
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Jimbo
2 years ago

Basic science fail: It is called bio-individuality Sparky. A peanut might be a snack for you but can quickly kill another person. Same with many diseases. Some people catch a cold and it is a mild sniffle, others end up hospitalized with pneumonia.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago

Masks are not proven to reduce the spread of virus.

Just thought we might need that reminder.

(especially totalitarian mask-lovers)

local observer
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local observer
2 years ago

fear stems from ignorance.

Mike
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Mike
2 years ago

Just a question, if not wearing a mask will kill everyone, when is that supposed to happen? It’s been over a year and I haven’t seen one article linking mass casualties to a area that refused to wear masks. Seems like they should all be dead according to the comments I’ve been reading for a year now…

local observer
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local observer
2 years ago
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keep in mind that everyone gets old and the tide always turns.

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Remember when everyone who went to Sturgis last year died?

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

LOL-exactly! I heard Florida and Texas have all died.

Jimbo
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Jimbo
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike

In other words YOU CHOSE TO IGNORE ALL OF THE PROVEN STORIES OF COVID OUTBREAKS, nothing more.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago

All the gaslighting, as if anyone is being forced to go to that restaurant.
Whats wrong you can’t find anywhere else to eat?
Did you ask grandma if she wanted YOU to save her?
She’s smarter than you.

Eyeball Kid
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Eyeball Kid
2 years ago

Yesterday I was in my car, nearing my driveway. I saw a neighbor and stopped my vehicle to say hi. He was easily 20′ away. He grabbed one side of his unbuttoned flannel shirt and held it over his face when he began talking to me. It was hilarious. Me in my car, him in the great outdoors, 20′ or more separating us and he pulls his shirt over his face! This lasted about 10 seconds and he apparently finally realized how ridiculous he was behaving and he let his face-covering shirt fall away from his mouth. I wonder if he later told his wife about the risk he had taken?

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Eyeball Kid

Wanna bet who he voted for?

Eyeball Kid
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Eyeball Kid
2 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Be like stealing candy from a baby.

Nobody
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Nobody
2 years ago

Another business I will never support!
Like the Ace in Fortuna, where I walked in two weeks ago and found that while the staff was wearing masks, they were not consistently covering noses and the majority of customers were not masked at all.
Needless to say I won’t go back there again. Means driving to Eureka for stuff, but I have to go to Eureka to get food, so it’s just another set of items to add to the E’ka List.
Or to order from Amazon.
Selfish people! Careless, inconsiderate and childish in every way.

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
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“Like the Ace in Fortuna,”

Thanks for the heads up. After lunch at Fiddleheads, I will go patronize Ace in Fortuna. I don’t like Karen’s and maskholes either. Selfish, careless, inconsiderate and childish in every way.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  rollin

😃

You definitely would freak out in Trinity.

I’m far from the only one not coverin’ ole toothy.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Nobody

Yeah support Amazon, the biggest corporation of them all! Wait, I thought liberals thought corporations were bad? Oh that’s right Amazon is woke, so it’s ok

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago

” Wait, I thought liberals thought corporations were bad?”

Isn’t it ironic? The same assholes that have been bitching for years about “the corporations maaaaan” are now suddenly cool with the corporations and the CIA, FBI that they once despised.

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
2 years ago

A majority of the forms of Mendocino County government and services have control issues. YOU MUST DO X,Y, Z OR RISK LOSING X, Y, Z.. Agreed it’s crazy if you’re pulling your mask off to eat once you’re in there as long as you’re giving 6 feet spacing to the tables what’s the point? Maybe Fiddleheads can offer rapid swab testing for people before they enter the building wouldn’t that be a hoot. This stance of oppression and bullying from the higher-ups runs rampant through all branches of Mendocino County Government and programs. Micromanagement is a hard thing to give up when you’ve built your entire career on it. But the sad thing that is not considered is micromanagement only goes so far. At some point people have to make their own decisions and run their own lives for what works for them and their loved ones. If their decision causes someone to become infected or even die, no matter, family, friend, co worker, innocent bystander they have to live with the choice that they made. No fine, fee, or mandate will change that REAL fact.

Free estimates
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Free estimates
2 years ago

How would you prove that person w without a shadow of a doubt infected person x,y,z? Would that set precedent for litigation against anyone that infects you with any pathogen? Could we then sue the CCP for releasing this virus and covering up it’s spread which led to worldwide infections and deaths?

Mendo
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Mendo
2 years ago

Absolutely Correct! After all anybody can come inside and take their mask off after sitting down. The “Mask Servants” all want power and obedience. They can’t stand anybody challenging their brainwashed and indoctrinated subconscious ideology
Its really all about obedience to the less than pleasant people at Mendocino County Code Enforcement. The same people who harass every one else in the county and destroy peoples lives. Its about OBEDIENCE TO BRAINWASHED IDEOLOGY AND AUTHORITY! Whats the poimt km enforcement on this business; just to punish, jist for code enforcement “to show who is boss(backed by badges and guns… they use threats of fines and vviolence when challenged they pull out the strong arm of the law)…. masks don’t even have to be worn after sitting down!
Ride to Fiddleheads was excellent today! Food was excellent as was the coffee!

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Mendo

Have you ever heard of the term Paranoia?
Look it up. I think you’d relate..

nevertrustacop
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nevertrustacop
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

eyes but you dont see. ears but you dont hear. the argument is literally about showing compliance through a few extra seconds of mask wearing ,nothing else.

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
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Mendo, you sir are a patriot. And fuck every would be, tin pot dictator that can’t be happy until they see everyone cowering in a useless mask. They are scum and don’t know the meaning of the word freedom. I WILL BE going to Fiddleheads this weekend.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
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Thanks Mendo. 🤙

Guesty
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Guesty
2 years ago

Way to go dude. If you’re scared of catching covid then just don’t go there. Let the rest of us live our lives. We know the risks.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago

Yes. Masks work.

Japanese researchers have shown that masks can offer protection from airborne coronavirus particles, but even professional-grade coverings can’t eliminate contagion risk entirely.

Scientists at the University of Tokyo built a secure chamber with mannequin heads facing each other. One head, fitted with a nebulizer, simulated coughing and expelled actual coronavirus particles. The other mimicked natural breathing, with a collection chamber for viruses coming through the airway.

cotton mask on the receiver head reduced its viral uptake by up to 40% compared with no mask. An N95 mask, used by medical professionals, blocked up to 90%. However, even when the N95 was fitted to the face with tape, some virus particles still managed to get in.

When a mask was attached to the coughing head, cotton and surgical masks blocked more than 50% of the virus transmission.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/10/22/national/science-health/japan-masks-block-coronavirus/

And/or:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-japan-masks-idUSKBN2770DX

Canyon oak
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2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Burkas work even better.

I got vaccinated thrice times, wear two masks, a burka, and a Bernie Sanders onesie

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
Reply to  Canyon oak

They say toilet paper is good for wiping.

But I’ll donate my yearly corn husk material to your lifestyle choices if you’re into regression.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Actually I think it’s been rebranded “progressive”

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago

No, we use bidets.

Jimbo
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2 years ago
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This goes here: There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
-Isaac Asimov

namer
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namer
2 years ago
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What is your opinion of the research design?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
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Smarter than most comments on RHBB regarding Covid and vaccine use.

4Trinity
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2 years ago
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From your link, trb: “Japanese researchers have shown that masks can offer protection from airborne coronavirus particles, but even professional-grade coverings can’t eliminate contagion risk entirely.”

I don’t see a link to said study. Have one?

“Masks: False Safety, Real Dangers.”

https://pdmj.org/papers/masks_false_safety_and_real_dangers_part1/ (peer-reviewed)

“Face masks should not be worn by healthy individuals to protect themselves from acquiring respiratory infection because there is no evidence to suggest that face masks worn by healthy individuals are effective in preventing people from becoming ill.”

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762694?fbclid=IwAR2RE-c4V-fhUodui0JQRbiHRcgEJuDKG_21N4oL5zAfciQfWCyHAsetJmo

“Are Face Masks Effective? The Evidence.”

https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/

Keep believing the “masks work” lie…

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
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4Trinity wrekt TRB……again. Do i hear crickets?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
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I don’t respond to particular names.

Enjoy them while I give them to you.

Link to study PDF:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://msphere.asm.org/content/msph/5/5/e00637-20.full.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjb7dqsxODvAhU7GVkFHWyIAUkQFjAAegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw15zTFqMUT99ApwT_sBUULV

Troll omitted that the study with not was 95% effective and cloths were 45% effective.

That is your “entirely”.

5% uneffective on N95

55% uneffective on cloth

4Trinity
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2 years ago
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And then it says this (kinda the disclaimer):

“Importantly, medical masks (surgical masks and even N95 masks) were not able to completely block the transmission of virus droplets/aerosols even when completely sealed. ”

They mention “droplets” because it’s simple common sense to understand that no mask can stop virus. They being just too nano.

Speaking of common sense: What is the purpose of sneezing? Is it safe to sneeze in your mask and then wear it all day? Think.

Thanks for the link.

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2 years ago
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The fallacy in this “common sense” argument that masks can’t stop a virus particle because they are too small (50-200nm) is that virus particles are NOT floating around in the air by themselves. They are attached to bigger objects, specifically the dried up ‘droplet nuclei’ that are left over from another person’s expired aerosolized snot droplets. A droplet nuclei is 5 microns or less, or about 100 times larger than the actual virus particle. Its a whole lot easier to catch it with a mask on the exhaler’s face while its still a wet droplet because its 10x or 100x larger still, also the _majority_ of the air is passing thru the mask.

On the receiving end if a person wears a surgical mask or cloth mask they might catch 50% of particles 2.5 microns (according to what I’ve read). An N95 on the other hand, properly worn, will catch 95%. Not perfect, but catching covid isn’t a binary thing .. it has to do with total viral load. None is ideal, but less is better. The more you breath in the more likely it is to take hold, and deeper in your airway. An infection in your sinus might migrate into your lungs eventually, but the head start might give your body time to react. Sucking in a ton of virus particles all the way to the bottom of your lungs is kind of worst case ..

Oh – re sneezing in your own mask. Okay, it might get gross after a while but what exactly are you exposing yourself to? There aren’t any virus particles in your snotted up mask that didn’t come from you already, so you are safe there. You might get a secondary bacterial infection if you leave it on long enough to start a colony going that you breath back in, I dunno. So carry a spare mask. And ffs whatever you do don’t take it off when you feel the urge to sneeze.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  farley

Actually, they are.

You should have a re-read:

“Because N95 respirators require special fit testing, they are not recommended for use by the general public.”

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762694?fbclid=IwAR2RE-c4V-fhUodui0JQRbiHRcgEJuDKG_21N4oL5zAfciQfWCyHAsetJmo

On their dangers(again):

https://pdmj.org/papers/masks_false_safety_and_real_dangers_part3/

As much as you love masks, there certainly are inherent dangers in wearing them for long periods of time. Let’s just say that “maybe” they protect from covid. Then go ahead and wear one. I won’t call you a wussy.

However, I choose not to. I trust my immunity and I’m shown, through vigorous research, that asymptomatics do not pose a threat to others. If, for some reason, I have symptoms, I’ll stay home for a spell.

What’s the problem?

Look at the bigger picture Farley. Open them eyes. What is this REALLY about?

TOTAL CONTROL.

Everything else is just icing.

farley
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2 years ago
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Whether or not you wear a face covering of some kind that gives YOU protection is entirely your choice. But don’t you think you owe others some consideration for containing your own infection though? Especially if you are assuming increased risk of infection by NOT protecting yourself? Public health mandates want to this decision on you, but I’m curious why you don’t see it as a matter of personal responsibility?

Look, I’m as cynical as anyone about our government and society in general, personally I see us on a path to ultimate failure (evidence this conversation, for example). In fact, I think humans are a monoculture problem that the planet is in the process of solving. Still, I don’t see any boogiemen or nefarious agendas hiding in the mask issue. The biology is simple, the solutions are limited and there are only so many pragmatic choices we have to manage the situation. Really, its a very dumb problem with very dumb solutions.

I agree with you about propaganda, but in my view there are people with agendas who saw an opportunity to divide people over this and took advantage of it by injecting suspicions about motives, bad science and outright false crap.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
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Fair enough.

Maybe we do have a coomon thread somehwere.

However: “But don’t you think you owe others some consideration for containing your own infection though? Especially if you are assuming increased risk of infection by NOT protecting yourself? ”

I’ve already addressed this (in my last comment, eh). If I’m asymptomatic, I don’t spread. If I’m symptomatic, I stay home. Where is the lack of consideration?

How’s about we throw another iron in the fire?

“Face masks that contain graphene may pose health risks”

https://healthycanadians.gc.ca/recall-alert-rappel-avis/hc-sc/2021/75309a-eng.php

Do you know what graphene is? It’s a very interesting little compound.

Still not clear though, which masks contain it.

farley
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2 years ago
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I’ve heard of graphene but never in the context of masks so that’s news to me, I’ll look it up.

I think where we differ on the personal responsibility issue is our understanding of asymptomatic spread. I think there is overwhelming evidence that this is a thing, though granted you dug up a study that contradicts. Regardless, asymptomatic and PRESYMPTOMTIC are indistinguishable from the perspective of the person who’s got the virus, at least for a while – and many (most?) people who develop a symptomatic infection spend a few days shedding virus before they feel sick. This is one of the defining features of this virus and the reason it went supernova.

I mean, I think we both have kids so I guess I’d have to ask how you expect others to act when they come near your family. Most 16-18 yo’s think they are bullet-proof and like to drive 100 mph, but when they cut me off on the highway while I’m driving my family someplace .. tbh I want to bust out my BFG, yah?

Healthy debate, thanks for playing 😉

4Trinity
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2 years ago
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That study of 10 million in China is hard to argue. Big ass study.

There are others.

My kids don’t wear masks, in general, we travel quite a bit (out-of-country) and they are encouraged to not be afraid of others because of a virus. Masks never required of others.

We haven’t been around anyone who is symptomatic since last year, when I believe we all contracted covid. Kiddos were feverish for a night, fine the following afternoon.

Might be due to them never having been vaxxed.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
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On graphene:

“Graphene’s unique properties allow for ground-breaking biomedical applications. Targeted drug delivery; improved brain penetration; DIY health-testing kits and ‘smart’ implants.”

https://www.graphene.manchester.ac.uk/learn/applications/biomedical/

Definitely something to keep an eye on, imo.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
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“Kansas lawmakers revoke Democratic governor’s mask mandate”

Look like another state doesn’t agree with the mask “science”.

“Kansas Senate Majority Leader Dan Hawkins said in a statement on the decision. “If data is the real driver behind the Governor’s approach, then let’s rely on the numbers.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/kansas-law-governor-laura-kelly-mask-mandate-revoked

Jimbo
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2 years ago
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TRY LOOKING NEXT TIME

Studies demonstrate that cloth mask materials can also reduce wearers’ exposure to infectious droplets through filtration, including filtration of fine droplets and particles less than 10 microns.

An investigation of a high-exposure event, in which 2 symptomatically ill hair stylists interacted for an average of 15 minutes with each of 139 clients during an 8-day period, found that none of the 67 clients who subsequently consented to an interview and testing developed infection. The stylists and all clients universally wore masks in the salon as required by local ordinance and company policy at the time.

In a study of 124 Beijing households with > 1 laboratory-confirmed case of SARS-CoV-2 infection, mask use by the index patient and family contacts before the index patient developed symptoms reduced secondary transmission within the households by 79%.

A retrospective case-control study from Thailand documented that, among more than 1,000 persons interviewed as part of contact tracing investigations, those who reported having always worn a mask during high-risk exposures experienced a greater than 70% reduced risk of acquiring infection compared with persons who did not wear masks under these circumstances.

A study of an outbreak aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt, an environment notable for congregate living quarters and close working environments, found that use of face coverings on-board was associated with a 70% reduced risk.

Investigations involving infected passengers aboard flights longer than 10 hours strongly suggest that masking prevented in-flight transmissions, as demonstrated by the absence of infection developing in other passengers and crew in the 14 days following exposure.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/masking-science-sars-cov2.html

farley
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2 years ago
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lol, you should re-read and try to really understand the first two articles you linked because they don’t say what you seem to think they do.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  farley

If you are replying to me Farley, do you care to enlighten us?

C’mon, when you’re finished laughing, have a go.

Apologies if you aren’t. Hard to tell.

farley
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farley
2 years ago
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4Trinity, is that like 4chan ?? I might like it, haha. Yeah I was responding to you.

The first article explores the theory that loose fibers in surgical masks and n95 respirators might be a respiratory hazard. Okay, fair enough .. lot of cheap spun polyester there. Is it worse than pulling a sweater over your head, playing with the dog or getting into your bed? Probably not, but you’d have to study that. The author also tries to make the point that the oxygen level in a “masked environment quickly drops to 17.4%” which is dangerously below the OSHA threshold of 19.5%. That might be technically true, but its an absurd point given the volume of the inside of a respirator is cubic inches in the low single digits, which is a relatively small fraction of the static volume of your overall airway. In other words, it doesn’t make shit of difference in your overall respiratory exchange.

Maybe more to the point, none of what is discussed in this article has anything to do with whether surgical masks or N95 respirators are effective for controlling the spread of covid19.

The second article is factual, but you have to read it more carefully and in particular the section you quoted out of context. Mainly they are differentiating “face masks”, i.e. the flat pleated surgical masks with ear loops that mostly only filter what you breath OUT, from “respirators” like N95’s that are designed to fit tightly around your face and specifically filter what you breath IN. To that end, the primary benefit of the “face mask” is to capture the small to very tiny respired droplets. You expel these every time you breathe out, more when you talk loudly and lots when you cough. They are mostly water and mucous, but if you have a respiratory infection then bacteria and virus particles will hitch a ride on them. The larger droplets fall to the ground not far from your pie hole, but the smaller ones get caught up in the air currents and then – and this is the important part – they dry out and become 10x smaller. These airborne fomites are called droplet nuclei and are a lot harder to filter out than they were when they were a wet droplet. This is why there is a public health mandate for you to wear a mask – it has NOTHING to do with protecting YOU, it’s to keep YOU from screwing other people by sharing your disease that you might not even know you have.

Okay so enter N95 and other “respirators” – these filter air going INTO your lungs. They test the efficiency of these using things like ground up salt crystals and as the name suggests an N95 will screen out 95% of particles of a certain size (2.5 microns I think, but it’s a spread .. google for a table). There is no law that says you have to wear a mask that protects you. NONE. The nanny state isn’t treading on your liberties to keep you from being a dumb-ass and getting sick – the whole point of a mask mandate is to keep your sick snot from getting on other people. BUT if you’re smart you’ll figure out that an N95 (or a KN95 if that’s what you got) does double duty. So .. that’s what I wear. Especially when I’m around knuckleheads who can’t grok simple science, but are more enamored with the stupid politics of this era.

Okay friend, now you know.

4Trinity
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2 years ago
Reply to  farley

Thanks for the lengthy, detailed reply. Honestly.

My handle relates to the fact that we are a family of four living in Trinity County, fwiw.

No anon in my sphere.

Did you read all 3 parts in the first link? They all detail the hazards of mask wearing, mostly, as I mentioned above, the effects of re-breathing your body’s exhaust. Masks may filter certain particles from entering you body but they also prevent the release of said exhaust.

Then there is the lack-of-oxygen issue.

That is what that particular study was about.

This from the second link:

” Because N95 respirators require special fit testing, they are not recommended for use by the general public.”

Now YOU know.

farley
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2 years ago
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Again, the volume of trapped air inside your mask doesn’t amount to anything, especially compared to the total static volume of your airway, i.e. the spent air that remains after you exhale. If masks did make you re-breath expired breath in any significant amount then you would see it in your blood oxygen level (hypoxia). If you have a pulsoximeter ($20 on amazon) then you can measure and prove this to yourself.

Fitting an N95 isn’t rocket science, but it is true a lot of folks don’t get it. You see them everywhere wearing KN95’s on and the metal tab on the nose bridge is still straight. The straps on a proper N95 go all the way around your head, not ear loops. You have to adjust the nose fit, and lose the stupid beard and check that it’s tight. It’s dumb to say the general public shouldn’t use respirators, these have been in common use forever. This was just to prevent the panic buying that was making them unavailable for medical personnel.

2nd Amendment Security
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2nd Amendment Security
2 years ago
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Have we forgotten THE LIABILITY PROTECTION from those companies makin BILLIONS?

HONEST QUESTION

Maybe in your ultimate Wisdom, we can discuss childhood obesity, childhood cancer, and all the aspects of health ignored by the *//vacxaddicts//*

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago

👍

Sunnyville
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2 years ago

Funny I saw 3 ladies double masked buying 3 2 litre soda bottles. I’d be triple masking if I was them also.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
2 years ago

So many peopled triggered.

Remember, you have the freedom to not go there.

local observer
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local observer
2 years ago
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who’s triggered? its insane how insane it has gotten. We have health codes for a reason. this guy will lose his business license and likely get sued and lose everything.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  local observer

And the “health codes” say….?

‘Must wear mask”?

Do you have a link?

2nd Amendment Security
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2nd Amendment Security
2 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

The German health minister said Jews were dirty and carried disease.

Sounds familiar

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago

zackly

dogglife
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dogglife
2 years ago

Of course it sounds familiar. All humans are dirty and carry disease.

farley
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farley
2 years ago

And Godwin’s Law is once again proven infallible.

2nd Amendment Security
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2nd Amendment Security
2 years ago
Reply to  farley

Interesting to see people being fooled by the insanity of the government running the deficit to the moon in our name, and the corporate controllers eliminating competition.

The shallow end of the pool is filled with adults with floaties.

Marvin Hagler

Hank Aaron.

I knew the ugliest aspect of human nature comes with all the best intentions

Jimbo
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2 years ago
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Health codes do say follow the health and safety codes for the county the business resides in. It sounds like you do not comprehend the term.

Mike
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2 years ago
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Just a thought, but remember if you can hold a private business accountable for any damages theyve done in this pandemic then you can also hold the government accountable to the same extent. And that is why exactly jack shit will be held accountable. If this idiot restraunt owner can be held accountable for one death from covid then Newsom could be held accountable for deaths of despair from shit downs. That was auto correct, but I think I prefer shit downs over shut downs at this point. Nobody in the government wants to set that precident, especially Cuomo

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local observer
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike

when was the last pandemic? does every hundred years ring a bell. luckily in a hundred years, kids can watch and there how dumb we can be.

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2nd Amendment Security
2 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Silence is acceptance in common law.

There are people openly talking of stripping freedoms for “safety”, and never addressing the difference between a tragedy and a statistic.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago

“1 death is a tragedy, 50,000 deaths is a statistic.”- Joseph Stalin

The Real Brian
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2 years ago

Trump and Stalin would have been great friends!

They both didn’t listen to their advisors in science, and instead listened to ego-boosting yes-men that ultimately were failures to society.

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2 years ago
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Isn’t Trump out of office? I thought that happened awhile back and the Biden administration has since developed a vaccine and made everything unicorns and rainbows.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Vavilov received a posthumous pardon by Nikita Khrushchev during the 1950s, and in 2008, a book about his life, The Murder of Nikolai Vavilov: The Story of Stalin’s Persecution of One of the Great Scientists of the Twentieth Century was published in English [9]. It remains a great irony that Vavilov devoted his scientific career to the humanitarian cause of feeding the population of the Soviet Union only to die by starvation.

https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.3001068

Antiscience has emerged as a dominant and highly lethal force, and one that threatens global security, as much as do terrorism and nuclear proliferation. We must mount a counteroffensive and build new infrastructure to combat antiscience, just as we have for these other more widely recognized and established threats.

Antiscience is the rejection of mainstream scientific views and methods or their replacement with unproven or deliberately misleading theories, often for nefarious and political gains. 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-antiscience-movement-is-escalating-going-global-and-killing-thousands/

He also called Birx “a proven liar with very little credibility left” and said she was “a terrible medical advisor, which is why I seldom followed her advice.” (In fact, if Birx lost any credibility, it was when she went on TV and suggested Trump was doing a good job handling the crisis.)

The incredible thing about Trump’s statement, a point no doubt lost on him and the advisers who typed it up and disseminated it, is the fact that in insisting he rarely, if ever, took the doctors’ advice, he made it clear that the 400,000 deaths that occurred by his last full day in office were his fault and his fault alone.

And while he deserves credit for the development of some (but not all!) of the vaccines, Trump conveniently forgot to mention the part about failing to obtain additional doses of the drugs when he had the chance and royally fucking up the rollout. Also it would‘ve probably been more helpful to the country if he hadn’t personally gotten the vaccine in secret, given the proportion of his supporters who’ve indicated they’re going to sit this one out. 

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/03/donald-trump-anthony-fauci-rant/amp

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2 years ago
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Ready to admit the NYP story that was censored by the media and big tech is true yet?

Hunter Biden admits laptop ‘certainly’ ‘could be’ his
Jerry Dunleavy 3 hrs ago

Hunter Biden admitted the laptop whose hard drive contents were obtained by the media in late 2020 “certainly … could be” his after all, with President Joe Biden’s son suggesting the laptop could have been stolen or hacked and hinting without evidence that Russian intelligence might be behind it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/hunter-biden-admits-laptop-certainly-could-be-his/ar-BB1ffd3R

LOL, yeah, the Russians did it. Is his brothers wife Russian?

The one that threw away his illegal gun in the trash by the school?

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2 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Yeah but the people who do go there then go other places where I might come near them. F them for their willful stupidity and risk causes me and my family.

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2 years ago
Reply to  farley

Stay home?

Wear 2 masks?

I’m told the jab now makes one immune to the virus. (har, har)

Get yourself and fam one? (never mind that you have 99.97% chance of surviving it’s menace)

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2 years ago
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What do you mean by “surviving” — not dying? Case fatality rate is more like 1% that I’m aware, but the likelihood of severe symptoms is still around 15% .. that could mean somewhere between spending weeks on your face in a hospital bed gasping for air, or even in the ICU on a vent .. that would be a real treat. And there’s the other long-term effects .. remember, this is a disease of the venous epithelial cells, respiratory symptoms are just one of several manifestations.

The jab is maybe 100% effective at keeping you from hitting rock bottom, and 90% overall in keeping you from getting the disease at all (including asymptomatic). Yeah, count me in.

Personally I don’t GAF what you do, except to the extent that you will get me sick in the process. Your liberties stop where they start interfering with mine .. so put your mask on, don’t drive drunk, no shooting in random directions, don’t pour gasoline down the sewer, etc. MMKAY? Living in a civil society means playing by the rules sometimes, this pinhead idea of the rugged American self-made man and the liberty to do as you please is getting absurd. If you can’t hack a mask or vaccine, then STAY HOME. You are not allowed to be out among the rest of us. [edit]

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2 years ago
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So you shooting a unapproved, experimental, gene-therapy concoction of chemicles and mRNA will keep me 100% “safe”?

What if the opposite is true? Phase 3 and all…

Ditto on masks.

“In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks (RR 0.78, 95% CI 0.51–1.20; I2 = 30%, p = 0.25)”

” Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.”

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article (but thats just influenza…)

Stay home? You are definitely showing your admiration of totalitarianism. It will likely come down to that, unfortunately.

You’ll clap as they round us up too?

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2 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

Farley said the most important part out loud, he thinks stepping on your rights is more important, than talking about the how and why populations such as the Jews, the other ethnic groups were incorrectly labeled disease carriers.

If farley can’t accept the limitations of health care by drugs and pharmaceutical, he’s merely being the good German, and the expense of our freedom and sanity.

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2 years ago

4Trinity is at least trying to have a pragmatic fact-based debate. There’s no ROI in taking on your brand of grumpy hyperbolic rhetoric, so I’ll save my oxygen.

(fwiw, not that it matters, I’m about as much of a 2A libertarian as you’ll find but so far I haven’t found an angle where it helps put down the ‘rona).

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2 years ago
Reply to  farley

It’s not your job to look put for anyone but you and your family.

You cross the line when you start pushing tried and true tactics of authoritarian regimes.

Guns can be weapons of defense …like a strong immune system.

Yeah , save your oxygen…..please!

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2 years ago
Reply to  farley

Your intelligence may not be evil, but it sure in hell speaks to how so many people in the world have been isolated, perpetrated, and decimated

through probaganda.

Zbigniew Brezynski and Rockefeller, etc had much more intelligence and potential than anyone I’ve ever met, and if you do a little research, you’ll find that rabbit hole has lots of skeletons in it.

You speak to being a 2A libertarian, and then you have the ability to blame others for your families safety and well being?

I understand how the nazis sold the German people on those disease ridden Jews, and the need to contain them in forced labor retreats.

Don’t be afraid of taking care of yourself, you can’t possibly blame disease on anyone else.

It’s disheartening, and sad. It makes me want to see all you vacxaddicts learn the lessons you keep ignoring.

Hang together, hang apart.

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2 years ago
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4T: Once again you missed the important part, and the point. As the abstract states “We conducted systematic reviews to evaluate the effectiveness of personal protective measures on influenza virus transmission, including … face masks” PERSONAL PROTECTIVE MEASURES. The point of the review is to see how these measures protect the individual from infection .. as in, if you are the guy wearing a face mask and wade into a big crowd (like Haj).

Further down they point out that “face masks” are the flat pleated things we talked about before, aka “surgical masks”:

“Disposable medical masks (also known as surgical masks) are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids”

and then the kicker,

“We did not consider the use of respirators in the community. Respirators are tight-fitting masks that can protect the wearer from fine particles (37) and should provide better protection against influenza virus exposures when properly worn because of higher filtration efficiency. ”

So there’s the rub: this study isn’t about measuring the public-health benefit of putting a facemask on everybody, rather the focus was on the efficacy of personal protection methods. They also didn’t even look at respirators.

We already know “face masks” aren’t so hot at keeping YOU from getting infected, and besides that’s not the rationale for a public health mandate — it’s to keep YOU from infecting OTHERS. But we’ve already covered that.

I find this is where most of the arguments and angst in the “mask mandate debate” goes off the rails. Folks just can’t de-conflate the public health goals (“face masks”) from the personal protection goals (“respirators”). They are really two entirely unrelated things – reducing your personal emissions to protect other people from YOU vs filtering the air you breath in to protect YOU from other people.

When I go in public I wear a KN95, because it checks the box on compliance and (more importantly, to ME) it filters the air I breath. I’d prefer to wear a N95, but all the ones I stockpiled have an exit valve on the front, so they are useless and non-compliant from a public health perspective. I suppose I could double them up with a surgical mask though.

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2 years ago
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Oh, regarding gene-therapy concoctions .. I chose Pfizer over J&J because I can grok the idea of messenger RNA making your cells produce the spike protiens to fake out your immune system. I’m more skeptical of the idea of gene-hacking a chimp adenovirus to accomplish the same thing by injecting DNA in the same cells to then produce the mRNA. Oh, and we promise we gave them all vasectomy so they can’t reproduce .. uhhuhh, right.

So far both seem to be working and not killing people. I’ll have to wait until the microchip shards in my doses reassemble and turn me into a 5G repeater so I can watch deep-fake Bil Gates porn on reddit without a phone.

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2 years ago
Reply to  farley

Slow kill, like cancer.

Everyone wants immediate gratification.

The only difference between us and them, is they have the plan, the patience, the budget, and the army of usefulidiots

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2 years ago

I’m sorry, you don’t make any sense. That just sounds like grumpy mumbling.

I’m actually serious about choosing the Pfizer technology over the J&J technology for myself. I’m not an expert in the field, but the information is there if you choose to seek it and really the basic biology isn’t that hard to understand if you actually want to. I can recommend a couple youtubers that are super informative .. one is MedCram, look it up. You won’t find a lot of goofy politics there however, so it might be kinda dry for you.

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2 years ago
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It makes plenty of sense if you have a little background.

Start with Event 201:

https://centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/

Study this “coincidental” exercise like your life depended on it. All of it.

Then skip on over to Agenda 2030:

https://sdgs.un.org/2030agenda

Now you’ll have a tiny bit of understanding what these UNELECTED f’ers plan to do with you and I.

Germany, circa 1930’s, was the trial run. This is where the “patience” part comes in. Many, many parallels to today. Many of the same players, corporate-wise and family-wise. (think klaus schwab- know his history?)

You might consider giving history a brush-up.

I think you know who the “army” is.

And it’s quite obvious who has the coinage, no?

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2 years ago
Reply to  farley

Two Words for you farley to meditate on

Liability Protection.

It’s called the ” prep act.”

And the 1984 act.

Those masks don’t have any real tangible guarantees, and when it comes to a court of law, every other business in the USA is liable for its products.

It’s incredible how people don’t recognize the importance of that fact.

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2 years ago

I don’t know which acts you are referring to, the PREP act of 2019 pertains to teacher retention, doesn’t mention liability.

That said, what “tangible guarantees” would you hope for respirators to offer? That something bearing the NIOSH N95 conformance has actually been tested by a NIOSH certified lab? I think we have that. There is no performance standard for dust masks, “surgical” masks, bandanas, etc. Regardless, folks have studied these and you can decide for yourself whether their results are credible. I don’t really see the problem.

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2 years ago
Reply to  farley

No justice, no peace.
Know justice, know peace.

I think it unfortunately goes back to Jacobson v Massachusetts, and there have been a few constitutional scholars who question the court’s decision, and how appropriate it is applied to a very manipulated and overbearing government response in terma of its efforts in all the other public safety solutions.

More intelligent question would be to recognize what constitutes a responsible public safety argument?

When we look at the lack of FDA guidelines on water fluoridation, it makes you question hypocrisy of the public safety argument.

While the USRDA, can’t prevent alcohol and zero nutritional food stuffs from dominating the source of our health crisis.

Yet somehow we forget to peel back to see the receipts on just what qualifies as effective health policy.

http://www.nyas.org/publications/annals/Detail.aspx?cid=79be4d13-c2ef-4d4c-8249-09130fa910e7

If we are not going to talk about how the few control the narrative, amidst a sea change of 1A attacks. Included is the wholesale censorship on competiting perspectives within the world of science, and research institutions whose funding could shed light on those conflicts of interest.

So, how do we prevent from getting overwhelmed by all the (micro) over hyped data points versus the (macro) “causation” of a public health crisis and where to focus the billions of tax payer funded solutions.

I can point to what might be called a “war on whistleblowers”, to support those who point out where the establishment gets it dead wrong, yet are crucified by a woke mob of government minders, and corporate media shills who refuse to address the root cause of disease.

I question the efficacy of masks for this ” flu virus”, and never trust blanket liability protection, which was given in the Prep Act, and the use of this pandemic.warroom.org to create more trouble and hardship for the independent working class families who are struggling with the sheer weight of the cost of living, in uncertain times.

I suspect that the Chief Justice is compromised and lacks credibility after the ACA flip flop, and many of his decisions, including South Bay, which Cavanaugh wrote the dissenting opinion which he believed the government can’t regulate dangerous behavior…something close to that.

Comes dowm to Freedom of choice, and then assuming the responsibility for those personal choices, not living on high calorie, nutritionally void food, no exercise, smoking, drinking, and a lifetime of neglect, then the society needs to care about those who don’t learn to care for themselves.

” Live free or Die.”

The government is a mechanism of control, and the corporation are eliminating the competition, sooner than later, we won’t have the economic strength to resist tyranny.

2 billion to fight vaccine hesitancy?

It’s an unfair fight, and we cannot guarantee that anyone is free of death or disease.

If you look at why the earth’s tragic population reducing events, who are we to judge the laws of nature and supply and demand.

We Humans are beginning to face a real crisis of our planned obsolescence.

You can’t fix that with a mask, or automation, or technology, or AI, but it does appear they’ve found the chink in our armor.

Filbert
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Filbert
2 years ago

Yeah, this place isn’t going to be around for much longer.

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2 years ago
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You know, you say that; but I would bet he gets a lot more business than less. Every time the authoritarian mob gets offended, there is pushback from people who don’t agree with heirarchies.

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2 years ago
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Not if the government keeps ordering his business closed…

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2 years ago

“It behooves us to remember that men (people) can never escape being governed. Either they must govern themselves or they must submit to being governed by others. If from lawlessness or fickleness, from folly or self-indulgence,they refuse to govern themselves,then most assuradly in the end they will have to be governed from the outside” Pres. Teddy Roosevelt Jamestown Exposition April 26, 1907

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2 years ago
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An oppressive government is more to be feared than a tiger.

Confucius

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dogglife
2 years ago
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Confucius says man who stands on toilet is high on pot

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago

Me three

Anon
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Anon
2 years ago

Love this !

JD
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2 years ago

Gotta say it’s depressing to see how many local folks, probably young, have drunk the kool-aid and somehow equate “freedom” with the right to expose and possibly infect their neighbor who has a sibling who has a compromised immune system, or a grandparent who’s whose lungs are old and tired. When did we stop caring for each other? And when did we stop thinking for ourselves and start following the loudest bully on the block? Oh, maybe it has something to do with the dumbing down of our educational system, begun under Reagan, funded by the Koch brothers, et all. Pretty sad, and depressing. WEAR THE DAMN MASK! THIS IS A PANDEMIC, or don’t you believe that either?

4Trinity
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2 years ago
Reply to  JD

Funny JD.

Check my comment above. Something about masks being BS.

Read those linked sources.

Educate yourself. (turn off the tv)

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farley
2 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

yeah, except your sources and reasoning are defective. Masks are not BS. And JD is spot on.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  farley

See above.

2nd Amendment Security
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2nd Amendment Security
2 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

Can’t see the forest …..for the fees

4Trinity
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2 years ago

Yep.

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  JD

. “WEAR THE DAMN MASK!”

You wear the damn mask. Or stay the fuck home! The rest of us will live our lives thank you!

4Trinity
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2 years ago
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👍

My thoughts exactly.

HotCoffee
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2 years ago

Replication crisis

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ioannidis (2005), “Why Most Published Research Findings Are False”.[1]

The replication crisis (also called the replicability crisis and the reproducibility crisis) is an ongoing methodological crisis in which it has been found that many scientific studies are difficult or impossible to replicate or reproduce. The replication crisis most severely affects the social sciences and medicine.[2][3] The phrase was coined in the early 2010s[4] as part of a growing awareness of the problem. The replication crisis represents an important body of research in the field of metascience.[5]

Because the reproducibility of experimental results is an essential part of the scientific method,[6] an inability to replicate the studies of others has potentially grave consequences for many fields of science in which significant theories are grounded on unreproducible experimental work. The replication crisis has been particularly widely discussed in the fields of medicine, where a number of efforts have been made to re-investigate classic results, to determine both the reliability of the results and, if found to be unreliable, the reasons for the failure of replication.[7][8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis

Not written by Trump or his voters.

Do the words false findings or experimental work ring a bell.

The Real Brian
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2 years ago
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Do the words false findings or experimental work ring a bell.

Definitely.

Sounds like the method you and Trump used to promote Hydroxychloroquin, Zinc and other most-likely-nots.

https://kymkemp.com/2020/05/18/first-death-in-humboldt-county-from-covid-19/#comment-1074734

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-antiscience-movement-is-escalating-going-global-and-killing-thousands/

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2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

My response to TRB disappeared.
so did my next post.

Kym Kemp
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2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Yes, I deleted it and put you on moderation. So the other comment is waiting for me to get to it.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

What rule did I break to deserve moderation?
Evidence please.
No warning, no email, nothing?

Kym Kemp
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2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Once again you insulted someone. You are a grown woman who has been commenting for years. You know the rules and you deliberately broke them. You knew the risk.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

WOW, and someone hasn’t insulted me and doesn’t know the rules.
Must have been a child.
Watch out posters NO insults unless they come from specific people.

I’d still like to see the specific case I’m accused of.
Seems like that would be fair in a court of law.

Kym Kemp
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2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

This isn’t a court of law. And I have limited time. And you can play anywhere else on the internet if you don’t like my rules. However, you said: “One thing is for sure your jab didn’t make you a nicer kinder person,
so we know it won’t work for that.”

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Actually I thought the rule was you couldn’t accuse someone of something without evidence.
I can pull up thousands of insults between people on this site that were not put on moderation..

Kym Kemp
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2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

You should reread the rules https://kymkemp.com/2018/05/20/commenting-rules-on-redheaded-blackbelt/

Number one and Number two are pretty important to me…thus their positions at the head of the list.

If you feel that a comment has been missed by me that should be deleted, respond to it with my name…”Hey, Kym, this looks insulting to me.” And I’ll look. If I agree, I’ll take it down or edit it.

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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Just for the record I try to stay with rule number 4.
and choose not to whine because someone insulted me.
I’m aware that some people also compliment me.

4Trinity
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2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Yes! Don’t you dare take zinc or hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin.

Proven beneficials.

Instead take the unapproved, experimental, irreversible gene therapy.

Don’t think!

2nd Amendment Security
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2nd Amendment Security
2 years ago
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“Must Die, must die, this Jesus must die”

Can you name that tune?

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago

Former Pfizer Chief Scientific Officer on Experimental COVID Injections: “I Have Absolutely no Doubt that we are in the Presence of Evil”

by Brian Shilhavy
Editor, Health Impact News

Dr. Mike Yeadon is a scientist who is familiar to regular readers of Health Impact News. Being the former Vice President and Chief Scientific Officer of the Allergy & Respiratory Research division within the pharmaceutical company Pfizer, he has an insider perspective on the new experimental COVID injections, and has been trying to sound the alarm on them since last year (2020).

He was recently interviewed by Mordechai Sones (also known to Health Impact News readers), who earlier this month was named as the News Director for America’s Frontline Doctors.
Evil Intentions

At the outset, Dr. Yeadon said:
more@

https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/former-pfizer-chief-scientific-officer-on-experimental-covid-injections-i-have-absolutely-no-doubt-that-we-are-in-the-presence-of-evil/

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago

Former Pfizer Chief Scientific Officer on Experimental COVID Injections: “I Have Absolutely no Doubt that we are in the Presence of Evil”
by Brian Shilhavy
Editor, Health Impact News
Dr. Mike Yeadon is a scientist who is familiar to regular readers of Health Impact News. Being the former Vice President and Chief Scientific Officer of the Allergy & Respiratory Research division within the pharmaceutical company Pfizer, he has an insider perspective on the new experimental COVID injections, and has been trying to sound the alarm on them since last year (2020).
He was recently interviewed by Mordechai Sones (also known to Health Impact News readers), who earlier this month was named as the News Director for America’s Frontline Doctors.
Evil Intentions
At the outset, Dr. Yeadon said:
more@
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/former-pfizer-chief-scientific-officer-on-experimental-covid-injections-i-have-absolutely-no-doubt-that-we-are-in-the-presence-of-evil/

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local observer
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

you know you have lost when you attempt to discredit Wikipedia as a form of validation. that’s what healthimpactnews.com is attempting.

you should look for better sources of information, unless of course disinformation is your agenda.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  local observer

In order to lose you need to be trying to win something.
Wikipedia is only as good as it’s contributors which can be anyone.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  local observer

A more informative reply might be to show how the information presented is wrong.

Baby, bathwater and all.

Wiki is many times full of it but I still have a go now and again at showing that they are.

Ever look into the life of it’s “main man”?

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago

San Francisco’s corrupt politicians exposed in a Twitter thread
By Andrea Widburg

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/03/san_franciscos_corrupt_politicians_exposed_in_a_twitter_thread.html

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2 years ago
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HotCoffee
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2 years ago
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92 Year Old Holocaust Survivor Brings Crowd To Tears

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVRS3jRwWNk&t=225s

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
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Not a white supremacist Trump supporter.

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Capitol Hill Suspect is Louis Farrakhan Supporter Identified as 25-Year-Old Noah Green — Left a Note on Facebook

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2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Farrakhan is an extremist like Alex Jones and Donald Trump.

I’ve said that 1000 times here on RHBB.

All are rightfully banned from social media.

Fuck the lot of them.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Farrakhan is NOT banned from social media.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

If you think they are “extremists” you really don’t know real extremists.

(fwiw, I’m not much of a fan of either)

2nd Amendment Security
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2nd Amendment Security
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

We should have the just the demoncrats pay twice for illegal immigration, since they expect the warm fuzzy blanket of uncle sammy.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Before the lies get started…..

NBC’s Pete Williams reports on @MSNBC: The suspect in Capitol Police incident is a 25 year old Indiana man named Noah Green. May have lived in Virginia. On his Facebook page, he notes that he is a follower of the Nation of Islam. Suspect is now dead.

— Jesse Rodriguez (@JesseRodriguez) April 2, 2021

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/first-photos-capitol-hill-killer-is-black-muslim-louis-farrakhan-supporter-identified-as-25-year-old-noah-green/

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
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If true then Gatez ( sp) is right up there with Hunter as far as disgusting sleaze goes.
He claims it’s extortion and claims he has evidence.

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2 years ago
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Under threat of litigation, in January 2021 American Thinker published a retraction of false, unsupported, and debunked stories it published asserting that Dominion Voting Systems engaged in a conspiracy to rig the 2020 presidential election against President Donald Trump, acknowledging, “These statements are completely false and have no basis in fact.”

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2nd Amendment Security
2 years ago
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Project Veritas sued and won as well.

Blood sport for our minds.

For the body,

And for the spirit.

Censorship is killing the 1st Amendment, while the bad guys bury the good guys with cement boots.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  local observer

How does that negate a twitter conversation? Or respond to your statement on Wikipedia?

4Trinity
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4Trinity
2 years ago

Just wanted to say thank you Matt.

Very good article.

I think the comment section might have broken records.

LogicWillWin
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LogicWillWin
2 years ago

This is the long game of Darwin’s theory (which at this point should really be re-labeled as a LAW) of evolution: the more capable and intelligent members of the species Homo Sapiens will die at a far lower rate than the less capable, less intelligent ones. So it will take some time, but eventually a sizable portion of the mask- and vaccine-denying citizens will go the way of the dodo — and that’s a good thing. So by all means, gather in force at Fiddleheads and any other establishments that flout the rules, laws and guidelines intended to mitigate the spread of COVID-19; you’re doing the world a favor, in slow motion.

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2 years ago
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ya know Kym.. you could eliminate about 90% of the inane and thoughtless comments here by just banning 8 different accounts that seem to be pushing the majority of the antivax /anti mask BS on here..

Facebook & twitter deplatformed these idiots.. & now they showing up here?

perhaps its time to clean house Kym

anon public health type

Kym Kemp
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2 years ago
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I know this is a radical concept but…deleting people who say things I think are wrong just isn’t my style.

The Real Brian
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2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

What’s radical is that you don’t aggressively address the agenda being pushed here by actors as obviously patterned nefariousness.

Trump was not banned because people “disagreed” with him.

It is that online lies have real life impacts.

And addressing the issue of that is more grown up than ignoring it or blowing off trolling as “disagreements”.

It’s really obvious there are more than “disagreements” going on here.

That may be radical to you to learn, it seems.

“With massive foreign operations funding the anti-vaxxer movement to undermine the public health of our nation the public deserves to know how these organizations are being funded,” Duff said. “Not only should these organizations be following state law and filing with the Office of State Ethics, but they should be providing financial records demonstrating the dark money fueling their efforts to harm …… public health.”

https://www.middletownpress.com/middletown/article/Senate-leaders-Whose-dark-money-is-funding-15107189.php

One example of this is how supporters of QAnon, a pro-Trump network of conspiracy theorists, are increasingly sharing anti-vaccination material. High-profile members have been promoting the false theory that coronavirus was deliberately developed and spread by Bill Gates, the Microsoft co-founder and pro-vaccination health campaigner. 

https://www.ft.com/content/f1966dd4-1c21-4a92-b726-f3634d8d9f16

How the Selzes came to support anti-vaccine ideas is unknown, but their financial impact has been enormous. Their money has gone to a handful of determined individuals who have played an outsize role in spreading doubt and misinformation about vaccinesand the diseases they prevent. The groups’ false claims linking vaccines to autism and other ailments, while downplaying the risks of measles, have led growing numbers of parents to shun the shots. As a result, health officials have said, the potentially deadly disease has surged to at least 1,044 cases this year, the highest number in nearly three decades.

Lisa Selz serves as the group’s president, but its public face and chief executive is Del Bigtree, a former daytime television show producer who draws big crowds to public events. Bigtree has no medical credentials but holds himself out as an expert on vaccine safety and promotes the idea that government officials have colluded with the pharmaceutical industry to cover up grievous harms from the drugs.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/meet-the-new-york-couple-donating-millions-to-the-anti-vax-movement/2019/06/18/9d791bcc-8e28-11e9-b08e-cfd89bd36d4e_story.html

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2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

What, TRB?,
You’ve never heard of reverse psychology?

The vaxxers are sometimes just posing as anti-vaxxers.

I question vaccines so all the goofballs will get them

Wait a minute!

Are you really just a anti-vaxxer in disguise, TRB?

I knew it!

It’s all making sense now.

(It’s me, Dr. J)

Who are you really, TRB?

Are you a member of the People’s Front of Judea?

Or are you a member of the Judean People’s Front?

We really must all learn to get along.

You know the CDC is now walking back their advice on wiping…

That is what should be alarming you…

Don’t mask, mask…

Wipe, don’t wipe…

Follow the science…

Don’t listen to any other misinformation unless it comes from the CDC.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
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Justice Clarence Thomas doesn’t seem to agree with your censorship devotion TRB.
I wonder if any other Justices will stand for the 1st A.

Just like Kym says about her rules it’s 1st for a reason.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
2 years ago
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Totally. Having trust in fellow humans and their capacity for critical thought and engagement in open dialogue is the hallmark of an authoritarian State.

Shut these accounts down now before we go down that slippery slope.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Citizens United was argued on the basis of free speech.

I assume you are a huge supporter of Citizens United?

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
2 years ago
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Corporations are charters of the State.

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The Real Brian
2 years ago
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In the immediate aftermath of the Citizens United decision, analysts focused much of their attention on how the Supreme Court designated corporate spending on elections as free speech.

But perhaps the most significant outcomes of Citizens United have been the creation of super PACs, which empower the wealthiest donors, and the expansion of dark money through shadowy nonprofits that don’t disclose their donors.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/citizens-united-explained

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