Mendocino County Officials and Cannabis Advocates Discuss Next Phase of Legal Cannabis Cultivation in Virtual Town Hall

Cannabis farm. [Photo courtesy of Mendocino Grasslands, credit: Nathan Frank]

Cannabis farm. [Photo courtesy of Mendocino Grasslands, credit: Nathan Frank]

Yesterday afternoon, a panel consisting of Mendocino County officials and prominent members of the cannabis community met in a virtual town hall hosted by the Cannabis Business Association of Mendocino County to address questions from the public about the next steps in regulating the county’s legal cannabis industry, referred to as Phase III. [See video here]

The virtual town hall was moderated by The Mendocino Voice’s publisher Kate Maxwell. Participants included 5th District Supervisor Ted Williams, former 2nd district Supervisor John McCowen, recently hired Cannabis Program manager Kristin Nevedal, the Board Chair of Mendocino Cannabis Alliance Patrick Sellers, and attorney Joe Rogoway.

Sarah Bodnar, Policy Director of the Cannabis Business Association of Mendocino County, said the town hall’s goal was to create “a venue for discourse and a deeper understanding of the policy.

5th District Supervisor Ted Williams opened up the meeting, providing an overview of the county’s legalized cannabis program’s current policy shift towards moving away from “Phase I” towards “Phase III.” Williams characterized Phase I cannabis ordinances as “not working” and negatively “impacting neighborhoods.” He described over one thousand applicants in the queue waiting for their Phase I ordinance to be approved. He foresaw Phase III as the next step in Mendocino County’s legal cannabis market and described its requirements as more stringent than PhaseI.

Kristin Nevedal, Mendocino County’s newly hired Cannabis, explained that Phase I’s permitting process was ministerial, meaning a permit is granted when the proposed project complies with established standards, a “box-checking exercise,” she called it. She said permits issued during Phase I did not require an environmental review nor California Environmental Quality Act (CEQUA) analysis.

In contrast, Phase III permits are discretionary. Nevedal explained that each project’s permitting will be determined on a case-by-case basis and require a complete CEQUA analysis plus a thorough review of the site’s impact on noise, air quality, aesthetics. Nevedal emphasized that any project that does not meet the requirements cannot be developed until the issues are addressed.

Former 2nd District Supervisor John McCowen and a key architect of Mendocino County’s Phase I Ordinance spoke to the public’s perception of cannabis cultivation: “What people fear is what we have now. For people who point to the unmitigated and unregulated impacts that we have all around us, that is not what we’ll have for Phase III.”

Supervisor Williams addressed questions regarding the Phase III ordinance aspect that has caused concern requiring that cultivators not exceed using I0% of their land to grow cannabis. Williams explained, “how much someone can cultivate should depend on the parcel, the neighborhood.” He described I0% as a “reasonable ceiling” but said that ceiling does not mean all permitted cultivators will grow on I0% of their land. Conditions that must be adhered to include limiting water hauling, plastic grow houses, light pollution, and generators.

Cannabis Attorney Joe Rogoway of Rogoway Law Group said what Mendocino County residents “are seeing is the lack of environmental regulations” intrinsic to the Phase I ordinance. He argued that Phase III’s environmental oversight will be more robust and discretionary, “meaning the county can say no” to cultivators if their sites are not up to code. He assured the community that before a cannabis plant could be germinated, “public hearings and neighborhood” buy-in will be sought.

Patrick Sellers, the Board Chair of the Mendocino Cannabis Alliance, expressed opposition to the Phase III ordinance because there was no path for existing, Phase I cultivators to transition to the market. Instead, Sellers said Phase III “provides a pathway for well-capitalized businesses leaving the existing Phase I operators in the dust.”

Supervisor Williams recognized the “angst over what is happening to small farmers” but questioned whether “rigging the outcome” in the battle between corporate and small farms was the government’s appropriate role. Williams said Mendocino County residents do not want to see problems associated with Phase I cultivation “scaled up,” including generators, light pollution, and environmental concerns.

Nevedal pointed out that “the verdict is still out from the state as to whether the provisional licenses will be continued.” Ultimately, she said that Phase III would present an “opportunity for farmers of all sizes.”

Nevedal addressed concerns that cannabis cultivation could be a strain on Mendocino County’s water: “If we move to a more heavily regulated program, we shouldn’t see the expansion of surface water draws.”

In terms of enforcement of the Phase III protocols, Nevedal said it would be essential to provide local law enforcement with a comprehensive list of the county’s regulated and permitted cannabis cultivators so law enforcement could use their resources wisely.

In addressing the enforcement issues, Supervisor Williams pointed towards Phase I cultivators deflecting enforcement by claiming they are waiting for the county’s approval. In light of the county’s enormous backlogs, Phase I cultivators can perpetually avoid oversight by law enforcement.

Supervisor Williams recognized issues with complaint-based enforcement saying, “some residents are fearful of complaining, [if] there is a project next door, out of scale, complete outlaws, they are worried they will be targeted.” He said that Phase III is not addressing this.

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JB
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JB
3 years ago

// “Kristin Nevedal, Mendocino County’s newly hired Cannabis, explained that Phase I’s permitting process was ministerial, … In contrast, Phase III permits are discretionary.”//

Translation: It just got harder to get permitted in Mendocino County (if that’s even possible)

Permitting mess
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Permitting mess
3 years ago
Reply to  JB

This is an extinction event of existing phase 1 cultivators in Mendocino county. Phase 3 provides limited ways for phase 1 cultivators to comply. 15% slope or less, Major use permits. So most of these existing sites will never pass phase 3.
I have a Mendocino county annual permit. They have approved all the changes and building permits i have a signed LSAA, State Water Board enrollment and CDFA provisional cultivation permits. But the county did not follow through on state CEQA compliance with their MND Now they are going to leave me and the small group of other cultivators that have actually followed all the rules to hang. All while acting like us cultivators don’t have our shit together.
Good luck phase 3. Maybe you will get treated better

JB
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JB
3 years ago

// “This is an extinction event of existing phase 1 cultivators in Mendocino county.”//

Correct.

This is a perfect example of a County (intentionally or unintentionally) underestimating the difficulties of getting a new (to CEQA) industry through the CEQA process. Mendocino is one of many local governments who failed their constituents by attempting to take the easy route and failing miserably.

While overall, there was absolute negligence on the part of the County, the truth is that no matter how active the County had been, CEQA compliance is simply not in the cards for most Triangle growers. After more than 3 years, the success rate state wide is still less than 1 in 5 for cultivators. Any thought that this will dramatically change in the mountains (where the ratio is far worse) is wishful thinking.

From multiple instances of experience, CEQA compliance on AG zoned bottom land with well water, few “receptors” (what we call ‘people) and no enemies is a matter of a few months and very low 5 figures. Couple this with the fact that these locations come with all sorts of other advantages (economies of scale only one) and you have the current conspiratorial landscape where is appears to the little guy that the permit system favors the big guy.

While not dismissing instances of ‘pay to play’ which are real (but rare), what’s favoring the bigger players is that they have generally have had the luxury to choose their location from scratch rather than attempting to permit the homestead. Location, location, location.

I wish I had better news for my old stomping grounds, but it’s not there to be had.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  JB

Worse news is better than fake news.

That’s why I enjoy your comments.

Thanks for keeping up with informing us up here JB.

Good luck and best to your farm as always.

JB
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JB
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Thanks TRB.

As far as our adventure goes, we lost everything (home and all) in the fast moving Mountain View fire 3 days before Thanksgiving. Driven by 80+mph winds, the utility company sparked fire took out almost a hundred homes in our tiny valley. With about 30 seconds to spare, I ran out the back of the house and dove in the Walker River to survive. Only our very small ‘lab’ (a small indoor genetic bank) was spared.

There are positives — a new and ideal parcel came up for sale up the road and we’re rebuilding in a location even better. If you give up, nothing good happens.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
3 years ago
Reply to  JB

I’m not from mendo but it seems the Phase 1 applications/permits will never translate to an annual state license. They are only provisional at the state level since the ordinance treats the applications as ministerial.. Without a CEQA doc (NOD or NOE) you don’t get a annual state license. If I’m wrong I’d love to hear how this all works.

Even if the provisional state license program continues for 7 more years as proposed, the phase 1 people are toast in the end. I guess get your MND together or hell maybe you need an EIR! The phase 1 people should get a PEIR certified and paid for with their fees/taxes and tier off that. Way better than everyone doing EIRs when the neighbors complain or getting stuck when the PC denies the CEQA doc.

JB
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JB
3 years ago
Reply to  Hayforker

// ” If I’m wrong…”//

You’re not.

sparky
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sparky
3 years ago

Phase1 operators clearly being played by two-faced-Ted

Charles Brandenburg
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Charles Brandenburg
3 years ago

Ted Williams creates problems we all pay for. I will run against him for what he has done to me and my inn, not related to marijuana (Didjeridoo). He creates problems then never helps who he harms.

Over Grow Mendo
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Over Grow Mendo
3 years ago

OverGrow Mendo. Its a Movement!

Billy Casomorphin
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Billy Casomorphin
3 years ago

There you go, plant pot everywhere!

Weed should grow absolutely everywhere! Only aging jaded drug dilletants need “cannabis”…

Dope is dope, smoke it 24 hours/day!

YAY! Free weed!! Let’s get high, play music and fool around…

Sounds like a great idea to me!

Farce
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Farce
3 years ago

The program will be similar to Humboldt’s. Extract as much as you can from smaller growers through fees and taxes while pretending that they stand a chance in the future. Meanwhile welcome Big Players- like Flo Kana- to come and set up huge grows on rangeland. Meanwhile threatening everybody to get fully permitted in a “legalization” scheme where they can never succeed, eventually getting a satellite spy program to beat up all rural people in the county- first weed, then any unpermitted structure at all. All the time telling people that what the county government is doing is good for the county’s future and anyways this is what you all voted for- “legalization” so you could be “free” and “safe”. Kristin will do the same job down there that she did up here- encourage everybody to “step into the light” so they can hit you harder. There will be no resistance because people want to believe the game is not rigged and they will be so positive that they will not see the true colors until they are completely subjugated…have a nice day!

Tom
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Tom
3 years ago
Reply to  Farce

You said it!!!

joe
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joe
3 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Wow. Best comment.
Past transgressions identified.
Future victims targeted.
Process being streamlined.

James Marmon MSW
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James Marmon MSW
3 years ago

RECALL TED WILLIAMS

Early Cuyler
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Early Cuyler
3 years ago

Is the cannabis board run by a buncha underpants gnomes?

Phase 1: collect taxes

Phase 2: ???

Phase 3: profit!

VMG
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VMG
3 years ago
Reply to  Early Cuyler

Please define “underpant gnome”… Thanks!

Early Cuyler
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Early Cuyler
3 years ago
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binbearda4
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binbearda4
3 years ago

you keep doing the “same” business, with the “same” people and expect a different out come. There is some thing seriously wrong with the big picture here. None of my business here. Though I do wonder. Why anyone would want to do cannabis business, with anyone who has never smoked it in their lives. Never grew it, never sold it, never had to depend on it for any reason at all. Like so many other folks who have throughout their lives. Makes no sense at all, to me that is. Course, I don’t get out much.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
3 years ago

Does anyone know what Phase 2 is or how do you skip 2 and go to phase 3?

Old oak
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Old oak
3 years ago
Reply to  Hayforker

Phase 2
“The bend over phase”

Hayforker
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Hayforker
3 years ago
Reply to  Old oak

Damn, so sorry to hear this.

Change.org
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Change.org
3 years ago

Corporate sellouts!!!! Treasonous to their constituents !!!!! But hey make sure you vote for em next election !!!!!!

Joe
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Joe
3 years ago

It’s a giant cultural change where technology and media created mega-trends and reefer changed to another money-oriented flavor of get-rich-quick. Carpetbaggers who didn’t give a shit about living in the country or thought of it as a place you can do anything you please swung the pendulum to a nasty place. NOW, the slow, clueless government is responding to the lowest common denominator by issuing a draconian response. Technology created the mega-trend, and technology enables the government to have their draconian response.
Ma and Pa growers are more collateral damage of the fast changes brought by technology. It is a place where the technology of the new media created a mega-trend based on reefer, and government responded with the blunt instrument of draconian regulation against the lowest common denominator, a sort of poison that kills nearly everything, like chemotherapy. The issue is that at this point reefer is the economic root of NorCal and supports a large part of the general population, directly or trickle-down. Most large commercial operations will snatch the money out of the individuals’ hands and suck it right out of the counties, killing the roots for the fat economic branches, killing the Golden Goose.
Bottom line: heavy regulations are a blunt response to the commercial exploitation of reefer. It will only work for a short term before it terribly damages one of Norcal’s last economic strengths and throws a great blow to our communities and economy. Who’s at fault? Hard to say. Money-grabbers first, technology enabling and creating that terrible new culture, too.

joe
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joe
3 years ago

Legalization has been coming for decades, and the county acts as though it was suddenly dropped in their laps when their pants were down. Hyper-regulating will kill the roots of Nor Cal’s economy, the Ma and Pa. The counties seem to think that regulating and taxing these large grows will fill their coffers even as a large portion of NorCal citizens will lose their income, businesses will die, and the overall economy will suffer greatly.
How do the counties think they can harvest the fruit when they kill the roots? It’s a complicated issue from the start and it sure doesn’t help to have an essentially clueless response by government.

JB
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JB
3 years ago

Joe, the Counties have much less to do with the taxation and hyper-regulation of the industry than people think. Read 64.

There simply is no practical route through the 64 maze for the overwhelming majority of Triangle growers. Some counties tried to slip through ministerially – see how that went for Mendocino, while others bit down hard and accepted the hard road (with a very low success ratio).

The bulk of the small, mountain growers were doomed the moment 64 passed.

joe
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joe
3 years ago
Reply to  JB

Yep, 64 was written by and for big biz. However, the counties have been truly hapless, in part because of a passive aggressive response on the part of the anti-cannabis contingent that NEVER endorsed any kind of growing and the complete lack of representation of small growers who are a herd of black sheep. There are some speaking up now, but generally they have eschewed regulations and public representation, to their own detriment at this point. For that matter, what CAN they do against big money and prop 64? Perhaps it is time for the small guys to band together and get some kind of compromise? I know there have been efforts in that direction…

Marcia Kennedy
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Marcia Kennedy
3 years ago

I’d like to know why all the comments here are about wanting to be in Phase 3. I .. you to put all the letters on here that are against all the farming that you’re doing has marijuana and what it’s doing to our environment and a water table and. Our animals and people’s health.