Study: California exodus was a myth, Humboldt County gained residents in 2020 Q4

In the latest episode of Humboldt Last Week

A new study has found that the 2020 California mass exodus was a myth and Humboldt County actually gained residents in the fourth quarter of last year.

The nonpartisan California Policy Lab found most moves have been happening within the state and the rates of people leaving have been consistent with historical patterns.

Specifically in Humboldt County’s fourth quarter of 2020, the study showed fewer people leaving and slightly more people coming in when compared to 2019 numbers.

Statewide, fewer people came in than usual and the Bay Area did see more of the exodus people have been wrongly attributing to the entire state.

I chatted with HSU Economics Department Chair Erick Eschker about this a bit and he pointed out it would be difficult right now to find real-time data on this at the county level, but maybe we’d have a better idea when the State Department of Finance releases new annual numbers.

He posited the idea that it’s possible Humboldt County could be seeing an influx of Bay Area residents headed here where COVID, wildfire, and public safety dangers are lower, with the caveat that more data is needed.

A screenshot of the Humboldt County portion of California Policy Lab’s data

Episode Description: 

A study found the California exodus was a myth and Humboldt County gained residents, the ‘Ninja Turtles, a good samaritan MMA star, plans for the former Scotia Inn, Trinidad’s replica lighthouse, why we cover certain notable Humboldt County exports, cannabis taxes, vaccine doses keep pouring in, details surface on an accused triple murderer, a plea for the health of SoHum, live shows, and more.

 

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john mitchell
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3 years ago

Where did the data come from that people are not leaving the state. Maybe California is gaining in illegals to make up the numbers? I have friends who live out of state and the are being swamped with people from California moving in. Two examples are Nevada and Utah.

Pharmstheproblem
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Pharmstheproblem
3 years ago
Reply to  john mitchell

You hit it on the nose, tax payers have left and non tax payers(illegals) have moved in keeping the numbers close… I’ve lived here 30 plus years and the population has changed from mostly Americans citizens to a huge population of mostly Mexican nationals… Where’s the study 📖 on that?

anny
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anny
3 years ago
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3 years ago
Reply to  anny

The answer to that is if you wanted to present the Progressive Party line as a comment, you should do it yourself and not make a link to it without warning.

anny
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anny
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

What, explanations other than your own ingrained thinking freaks you out?

Guest
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3 years ago
Reply to  anny

That there are too many who think like you that it doesn’t matter.

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
3 years ago

Humboldt County is not California. We are merely a territory of that present nightmare.

Joe Mama
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Joe Mama
3 years ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

Humboldt county is a great place to be unemployed. I think there’s one job for 10 people there. Great place to get addicted to meth too!

Mr. Bear
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Mr. Bear
3 years ago

Yes. The illegals are driving the record high in home prices.

[edit]

chopsolutely
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chopsolutely
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Bear

this has to be sarcasm, because the only people that drive home prices up are landlords and the genuinely rich.

stuber
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stuber
3 years ago
Reply to  john mitchell

Yes, people are leaving. Texas is another state they are going. And if people do not get their act together and start cleaning out brush fuels, it will be bad again. Alderpoint, if they don’t do something to clear fuels, will burn baby burn if there is a fire. We hope they do something soon. And all along the Alderpoint road through Blocksburg to Bridgeville is a disaster that would be horrible if they don’t get busy. Hurry!

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
3 years ago
Reply to  stuber

I wonder if Texas is looking all that sexy lately….though, it is nice to be able to shoot down (yeehaw!) any Texan talking trash about California’s power grid.

Yes, I am a bad person, I enjoyed the political fallout for the Texan “philosophy”. I felt terrible for the actual people, though. Even up in SW MO, my mom had one night of -13 degrees, and she kind of grew up in freezing winters. Thankfully she had a wood stove. I can’t imagine what it was like for everyday Texans who couldn’t fly to Cancun.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago

So when a big earthquake comes, you can expect that other parts of the country will be just as hatefully contemptuous of your government failures as you are of theirs? Because Californians are just as unprepared for infrequent natural processes as anyone else and your political self righteousness will not keep you warm at that point either.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Poorly run and huberistic power structure*** vs, earthquake?

One is not like the other.

***ERCOT/Texas was told they needed to weatherize their personal power grid in 1989 and again in 2011 ( I think those are the dates)…Texas did not do so. They didn’t think (lol) they needed to or have to listen to them fancy politicians from not Texas. The TX power grid was within minutes of absolute failure. They got “lucky” I guess. That is a failure of management (like PGE in CA).

They then tried to blame the “New Green Deal” (which isn’t even in law) or that the wind farms were at fault because they froze (here again the Feds warned them about this years ago), which yes they did, but remember that from Antarctica to Alberta have wind turbines that don’t freeze). Neglecting to mention that the natural gas system also crashed. Everything crashed.

Earthquakes are a real danger, and public education is gaining traction (I’ve been preparing for 30 years). But the inevitable unzipping of the CSZ is not going to be a man-made catastrophe. An earthquake is not a failure of management. What happened in Texas was a great big fail completely man made.

I will confess to a dislike of the “Texas” mystique or myth. One time, in Kodiak, we are on the boat and this dude struts down the dock looking for one of them big paying fishing jobs. He announced that he was from Texas, as though that was supposed to mean something. “Dude, you do know you are in Alaska, right? “. The everything’s bigger in Texas crap annoys me.

But there are some wonderful people in Texas, they just aren’t the ones in charge. And the Cowboys suck! ‘America’s Team”, pphhhhtttt.

Jim Brickley
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Jim Brickley
3 years ago

There was a time when, then Governor Rick Perry talked of Texas seceding from the US. He was then informed it would mean loosing the Dallas Cowboys! Oops, never mind!

Guest
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3 years ago

Nonsense. Texas power failures were the results utility companies not being prepared for what is in Texas a once in a decade natural phenomenon of unusually cold weather. This was their choice in a competitive market where not cold hardening their true system for the unusual cold meant providing cheaper and more power. Sort of like California utilities fails to provide enough power for air conditioning in its inevitable unusually hot seasons and does rotating outages instead. Maybe in Texas at that time, someone is reading a press report about people dying of heat stroke in those outages as thinking how lucky they are to live in Texas. While the grass is usually not greener on the other side of the fence, it is not browner on the other side of the fence either.

What I used the earthquake example was to point out the ugly political schadenfruede that ruins any sense of community in America these days. Way, way too many Americans are way, way too self righteous. They rejoice in other Americans suffering if it makes they feel it is an example proving their political choices were better. And the reach to do that has become very mean indeed. Throwing in a remark about feeling sorry for the “people” shows that the speaker knows what they are saying is ugly.

It would be much more honest or at least less arrogant to recognize that there are almost no perfect choices. And that you in your turn will suffer the result. That includes the choice to rejoice in your neighbor’s problems.

Guest
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3 years ago

But you’re right about one thing- hardly any Californian announces that when they leave the State. But it is not due to modesty.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago

Yes, we’re in glorious Ca. that buys it’s electricity from other states and has rolling brown outs.
Ca. does nothing to protect the grid from EMP attacks, yet wants us totally dependent on PG&E.
Heaven forbid if you want to cook on a gas stove. I wonder how much it costs just to run Nancy Pelosi’s $20.000 freezer.
You think the poor people in the Welfare State can afford solar panels and wind turbines, not to mention electric cars?

Then there is water of which our state keeps telling us we have none, yet we invite people south of the border to keep moving into our deserts in the southern part of our state while telling people in the Northern half not to water their veggie gardens. Oh, no water for the valley ag. farms either.

How about the great way we maintain our forests, no maintenance at all. Therefor wildfires and then when it rains mudslides.
Yet we can go to Mars?
Does Ca. have food storage and a plan to dispense it in a real emergency? I haven’t heard of it. What if the electrical grid went down what’s the plan? How would all that water get to LA to keep people alive?

Ca. is no more prepared for an earthquake than it was/is for covid but it wants to run the Country.
You’re going to need more than a mask! I was in the SF 89 earth quake overlooking Candlestick park..Many people were from out of town for the game with no where to go.

Alaskan saying:
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Alaskan saying:
3 years ago

“Happiness is an Okie headn South, with a Texan under each arm”

stuber
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stuber
3 years ago

I love California. I love here, in southwest Trinity county, southern Humboldt. I feel very safe here. We have alternate power in case PGE goes out, so we can keep watching NASCAR and Formula 1. gravity flow water, have not paid a water bill in decades. [except for the price of tanks and water line]. My brother lives in Texas, talks about eggs being .65$ a dozen. I can raise my own chickens. I can fish, hunt, raise my own meat, and have a good garden, learned how to can, love it. We live in paradise. Cut the fuel brush, have a pump, get the trees down, and we should be ok. I mean, we have Costco, but in 20 minutes we are heading south into the redwoods. Drive out to shelter cove, play in the tidepools, have the best fish and chips ever, sit in the sun for awhile. Go to Cuneo creek with your horses, ride in the redwoods, so beautiful and peaceful, so blessed. Truly, this is one of the best places to live on earth. And we have found, the finest people live here too.

Mr. Bear
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Mr. Bear
3 years ago
Reply to  stuber

Someone else in Humboldt that watches F1?

Really

Lynn H
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Lynn H
3 years ago
Reply to  stuber

Oh never mind, I see now it’s in shelter cove. Haven’t tried theirs. Eureka doesn’t have any good ones AFAIK.

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3 years ago
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Evolvingdaily
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Evolvingdaily
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I think they are presently working on a new enlarged firebreak up there ? Above Garberville? So things could present differently this year that last.
Also this year has been considerably wetter than last. So there is that also.

Allch Chcar
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Allch Chcar
3 years ago
Reply to  john mitchell

California has 12% of the entire US population. And people move a lot these days. It’s not surprising that other states are overwhelmed by Californians. But even more people are moving here so it’s still growing.

Steve Koch
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Steve Koch
3 years ago
Reply to  Allch Chcar

from California Policy Lab,

https://www.capolicylab.org/news/new-research-people-are-leaving-sf-but-not-california/

“Historically, the number of people leaving California tracks the number of people entering California, but this pattern deviated in Q4 2020, when 267,000 people left the state and only 128,000 entered.”

So more than twice as many people left the state as entered the state in Q4 of 2020.

Numbers. Facts, or vague notions?
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Numbers. Facts, or vague notions?
3 years ago
Reply to  john mitchell

When you live in Wyoming and there’s like, twelve people, 1 new Californio is getting “swamped”!
Sometime the hype is just hype. Don’t paint yourself in a corner! You are wrong unless you can prove you are right. Post your study showing people are leaving the 5th largest economy in the World. People who are, must have that 1%type income. Not the log truck driver, or small business owner type you identify with

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
3 years ago

While not Humboldt, an anecdotal story. Earlier in the pandemic, I was standing outside the cable office (they only let two people in at once) and the young couple behind me asked where they could get something and I said Fred Meyers. They had no idea where it was so I asked them if they were new to town.

Why yes, they were. The had just moved from the north Bay Area, because of the fires. I wonder how many more are fleeing the fires.

I also thought of them that day last September when I woke up to a blood orange sky, the smell of fire and that ash/dust that I still find in hidden corners of my house (dusting isn’t my strong suit 🙁 ). We live right on the Oregon coast, but just 30 miles north of us, a fire was raging, destroying homes. Not to mention the disastrous fires to the east. Did they wonder if it was such a good idea, frying pan/fire and all that.

Evolvingdaily
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Evolvingdaily
3 years ago

I have often wondered the same of those who have come here to Humboldt fleeing wildfire scenarios

NorCalNative
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NorCalNative
3 years ago
Reply to  Evolvingdaily

I made that move after losing my home to wildfire in wine country.

Never quite middle class
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Never quite middle class
3 years ago

A year ago I could have bought a house. I wasn’t quite ready, credit was still a little too low. Now, I have the income, I have the credit, and I can’t find an available home that isn’t extremely overpriced compared to just one year ago. It’s clear that we’ve had an influx in Humboldt if you’re watching the housing market. It’s really hard as someone that’s lived here my entire life and worked so hard to achieve home ownership just to watch all the housing get snapped up by people relocating here

rollin
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rollin
3 years ago

” It’s clear that we’ve had an influx in Humboldt if you’re watching the housing market”

Many people own more than one home. This is a massive housing bubble. Be patient. Meanwhile look at the data on people behind in their mortgages.

Guest 707
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Guest 707
3 years ago

folks in the destination states likely feel the same about Ca refugees bringing cash from their high priced home sales. Supply and demand we live with.

Guest
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3 years ago

Hold on a bit. Humboldt has a way of discouraging those who think to make it over into a cheaper version of where ever they come from. Those people leave after a couple wet, foggy years when they discover that people expect them to adapt to here rather than treat them as saviors providing enlightenment. Keep an eye out for the chance to buy something serviceable but not flashy where you know the area but incomers do not, build up equity in that purchase then you will have the chance to get what you want when it comes along. At least that is what worked for me. If you have a friend (a real friend) in real estate, they might be able to give you a heads up as to any properties that have sat on the market for awhile but are basically solid. Those, types of friends provided the leads on two of the three houses I bought over a life time. The other one was the result of an ad I placed asking if someone was planning to sell what I wanted. Being ready is the key. Good luck.

me too
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me too
3 years ago

Me too.

A lot of it is techies buying up second and third homes. Also, 10 billion was lost in Ca alone with fraud from the ppp and other programs. I suspect some of that is being invested in housing. Also, a domino effect from foreign investors.

Some of these people are going to regret it. Some are buying overpriced houses with severe structural decay or damage or unfix-able, unpermit-able septics without ever having stepped foot in the place. I looked at one house that had a corner of the original building section completely cut out and a bulging bookcase was placed there to support the entire structure (!!). Plus rot from being a blown up grow room with no floor covering. 1940’s wiring and plumbing throughout. That place went for a disturbing amount of money..

Allch Chcar
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Allch Chcar
3 years ago

The Exodus has been an unproven myth that spreads easily on social media. It’s actually really difficult to find out the exact numbers because even the Consensus misses a lot of people. A lot of people don’t do change of addresses either. The truth is California is growing in both population and economically. But it’s extremely dependent on immigration so the border being partially closed for the last year puts a damper on growth.

Guest
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3 years ago
Reply to  Allch Chcar

This study touted in the headline was specific to 2020 only. Guess what? In 2020, with lockdowns and warnings all over the country, migration inside the US was anything but normal. Every political group cherry picks data to put on their own spin. Even more likely is that the press will spin it harder than anyone else. California did lose population last year. The quibble is that it was not a mass or great number.

What the study (and there is no such thing as a “non partisan” group however much they allege themselves to be) was:
“While a mass exodus from California clearly didn’t happen in 2020, the pandemic did change some historical patterns, for example, fewer people moved into the state to replace those who left,” author Natalie Holmes said.

“At the county level, however, San Francisco is experiencing a unique and dramatic exodus, which is causing 50% or 100% increases in Bay Area in-migration for some counties in the Sierras,” Holmes said.” https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/mass-2020-exodus-california-happen-study-76279795

Of course why this debunking the myth made headlines is exactly more spin. While there was not a “mass” exodus in 2020, every other year in the last decade has shown

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Mexico has taken California back without having to fire a single shot.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

America is currently too full of its own citizens downing it. Sucks the life out of everything like when a person is depressed, every minor problem seems insurmoutable.

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
3 years ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

Quit whining about sub-minimum wage workers coming here to support their families. They are the reason your meat is cut up for you and your crops are in the stores at lower than they would otherwise be prices. They keep their head down and work all the jobs your spoiled kids won’t do.

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
3 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

It worked better when blacks filled that roll, don’t you agree WC?
Joking duh..
It’s never ok to exploit the disadvantaged of society.
Using the poor of another nation is even worse.
It only breeds eventual conflict.
It only enables a unsustainable Economic order

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago
Reply to  Canyon oak

Exactly Canyon Oak. WC’s comment is that of a person who supports de facto slavery (although I doubt he/she realizes it).

Farce
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Farce
3 years ago

Every place is growing. Because population increase is off the hook. Overpopulation is the underlying issue in all of our severe environmental crises yet we refuse to even talk about it. Covid could have helped but we refused the help and so never even saw a dip in population growth. Our destructive blindness is our downfall…we are doomed

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
3 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Yep

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
3 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Yep right on the money with that one Farce.
But we still want to fight tooth and nail to end abortions in red states? Do we want more unwanted babies?

Farce
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Farce
3 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

My friend- a nurse- said that we should really consider paying people to get sterilized. A junkie would take that deal. (She sees an endless parade of junkies popping out unwanted children). I’m not in favor of abortion but we need to at least discuss population control. But that discussion always leads to immigration and then we all get called “racist” for even bringing it up! (No- I don’t hate any race or color and I refuse to hate like that). Years ago the Sierra Club stopped their education about “Zero Population Growth” over such anti-immigrant/ racism accusations. Now nobody even says anything….

Brown Shirt Bandejo
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Brown Shirt Bandejo
3 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Oh don’t you worry about a thang. Those Rockefeller Types got it all planned out. All us grunts just gotta keep our heads down and let the gifted and wise MF’s show is how to control the population.

Fertility is already a well known problem.

The suicide death cult is making its way to #1

Guesty
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Guesty
3 years ago
Reply to  Farce

You know who’s fault that is? Multi baby mormons !those darn Mormons keep having tons of kids then they in turn have tons of kids it’s like feral cats but with stepford wives [edit]
How do you guys like it?
You all [edit] can Stop the it’s the illegals bullshit or I pick on your group next ..[edit]
RECOGNIZE-all humans share 99.9% the same DNA .

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  Guesty

I get that you are trying to make a point. But you slung a lot of hate at a group that I’m not sure Farce is a big fan of anyway.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Population control was a big topic in the early 70’s in the US. Many white women went in to have their tubes tied while other countries went right on populating.

China tried the one child policy that caused women to kill their female children and now have more males than females leaving no one to care for the elderly, which women traditionally did.
Now they export people to take over the world and relieve their over populated country.

The present US policy is to adsorb the overpopulation of the rest of the world.
Birth control almost always works when used responsibly.

reality
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reality
3 years ago

Its a “myth” but we have no good data….

Which one is it?

Guest
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3 years ago
Reply to  reality

The freedom of press to spin is unlimited.

rollin
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rollin
3 years ago

What an utter crock of shit. More left wing drivel, bullshit propaganda. The “non partisan” California policy lab; who the hell is that? An organization whose goal is to “partner with CA, state and local governments” and who is funded by CA universities couldn’t possibly have an agenda. Hey, maybe we can check with “media Bias Fact Check” to confirm.

Typically, when you search a result on Google or Bing, you get a litany of left wing bullshit, even when you are looking for the opposite. In the case of people fleeing CA, the exodus is undeniable, even in the heavily biased search engine results. But don’t worry, the left will replace ex pats with illegal immigrants, many of whom are illiterate in their own language, and continue to pauperize all of us and then blame it on capitalism. Either that, or in typical Orwellian fashion, the kind perpetuated in this very article, they will try and convince you that said immigration will make you richer. Millions of poor, that you get to pay for, is double plus good for the thriving economy of Oceana.

https://www.thecentersquare.com/california/under-newsom-california-sees-population-decline-for-first-time-in-more-than-century/article_a18c84e0-5a7a-11eb-b53a-0bbaca855b6c.html

Guest
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3 years ago

This article is completely untrue in every way. I have many friends who moved out of California to Texas, Florida, Idaho, Utah etc. I have been looking to move myself and real estate is hard to find in any of those states now and the prices of homes have shot up in all those states too. I have been working with realtors in many of these states and as soon as I find a good property it is snatched up within the week I find it or immediately under contract. Most realtors in any of these states wont even work with you unless they know you are pre approved for loans and ready to go. The realtor in Idaho I am working with said he has a list of hundreds of people looking for properties and the average price of a 3 bedroom home on an acre used to be around 200,000 and now sell for around 350,000 to 400,000 but are very hard to find. The realtor in Florida said they are seeing such an influx of people they won’t even call back people who are not already pre-approved for loans and the average price was 160,000 for a 3 bedroom home on an acre and is now around 250,000 to 300,000. Texas is the same pretty much but homes around the boarder towns are popping up for sale but nobody wants those houses because they are being over run by cartels smuggling women and children through private properties where there is no fence……realtors words not mine. Plus if you call about properties by the Rio Grande the realtors must disclose the truth about immigrants and trespassers according to Rio Grande reality which was news to me until I called on a few properties. In Utah there really are no good properties for under 400,000, only fixer uppers and very few. I even looked in Tennessee and prices have sky rocketed there too. I am not giving up tho. I defiantly am not staying in this mess of a state and watch it get demolished by communism and terrible policies. This state is a total mess in every way.

hooktender
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hooktender
3 years ago

I helped move my brother to Arizona in Oct.
We were surprised by the 100’s of U-Hauls leaving Calif. headed East. on I-40 at the border.
I came back by way of I-10 and witnessed the 100’s of U-Hauls at the border heading East.

Guest
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3 years ago
Reply to  hooktender

Homeless U-Haul and how many of those have you seen-

A Real Journalist
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A Real Journalist
3 years ago

More fake news. Millions have left in the last couple of decades. Leave-em-to-die Teddy Kennedy’s Immigration Act of 1965 opened the floodgate to illegals and ruined this state forever. The puppet in chief continues the leftist trend to annihilate state and federal sovereignty. California was a solid “red state” for many years (and it remains so away from the communist coastline) and hopefully with Gruesome’s recall will be again. Grower-sponsored websites like these love cutting and pasting the lamestream lies. It’s all they can do without real journalism skills.

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
3 years ago

Yes, the immigration act of 1965 destroyed America as a Integrated European cultural monolith, and more.
Decades upon decades of non European immigration has followed.
Why should we(provincial people) want to work anymore towards the idea of this nation?
It’s not our project anymore.
It’s not the country or state it used to be.
Some divest ideologically from the idea of America.
Some recognize it is really all separate anyways, in accordance to its discordant cultural enclaves.
Is to celebrate diversity really to
celebrate dis-unity?
this seems what REAL cultural diversity en mass equals.
Separate societies.
People that ran this state for decades have left in droves, it’s a mythical fact we all largely recognize.
They are being replaced by people from other nations who will not hold up the memory of what we knew as children in this state.
So be it.
just say goodbye to everything you knew, because the future is planning on building on top of your memories!🤗

Martin
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Martin
3 years ago

I know a few people that are in the process of moving OUT of California, and I sure cannot blame them one bit.

the misadventures of bunjee
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the misadventures of bunjee
3 years ago

There are a lot of Caliornians moving out. And of course those that relocate here or are born here for various reasons. The biggest movements, sans what some website data shows, that I hear from actual people I know (that complain Californians are screwing up all their politics) are San Antonio, Boise, Raleigh, Medford, Spokane, Phoenix (that one has gone on for decades) and even Florida (not the snowbird types, the never-been-there ones).

The reasons are all over the map and don’t exactly correlate to political or even religious reasons. Mostly tax reasons and job changes, or companies moving operations. I have recommended people move to California too, but they need to do their research and not just move because they’re in a shit part of their lives and “it’s pretty there”. I find the Mojave desert pretty as much as I do the redwoods. But point being there is a lot of people moving out of CA. However there does need to be taxpayers that actually pay taxes to fund the various services in this state. And that goes for ALL states.

Evolvingdaily
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Evolvingdaily
3 years ago

Omgosh- lately the comments on here have gone to extreme negativity. Who the f are you people?
If you hate CAlifornia?
By all means PLEASE LEAVE! It’s incredible to read the hate n entitlement in some of these posts.
Get your crap n move already! Hey California is for people who LOVE HER!
Take your anger, judgements, entitlement issues and BLATANT RACISM – n head on back to Europe? LAND OF ORIGIN. LETS MAKE IT FAIR FOR EVERYONE?
There’s a novel idea- this is OUR LAND – NATIVE LAND – my .5 acre is Nongatl land by right!
MY NATIVE LAND IS YOSEMITE…
so let’s ALL JUST GO HOME N CALL IT GOOD?
what do you all say? Hmmm?
What do you all say to that ??
I went now you- please…

For sure
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For sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Evolvingdaily

I like your comments! I’m a huge Pro-Cali fan myself. I came here (Humboldt)in the60s & immediately knew n my heart that I was home. I’m still head over heels about the greatness of our county & state. In the 70s, I bought a little funky wood-frame house for $28k. Now it’s worth ten times that amount, but I’m not selling cause I have grandkids, almost grown, who will be able to take it over& never hafta worry about a high priced mortgage. Sustainability…vision for 7 generations…

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago

Well there are two differing scientific DNA histories that claim Native Americans either came from Asia or Siberia. So which one are you going to?

I love most Native Americans but if you want to recommend stupid ideas….well, here ya go.

DNA from an ancient baby’s skeleton shows that all Native Americans descend from a single gene pool. And their ancestral roots are in Asia, a new study finds.

https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/where-native-americans-come

Ya gotta watch out for that DNA stuff, we might eventually find out we all originally came from the same place, and that might just be the end of racism.

Then what’s everyone going to do to be more entitled than someone else?

Joe Mota
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Joe Mota
3 years ago
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The facts are clear. We are all from Africa which is humanity’s homeland. From our common origin in Africa we moved to different regions of Europe, Asia, and Oceana evolving into different races but retaining our common humanity.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
3 years ago
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Siberia is in Asia.

Are you talking about the Upward river baby. If so, I don’t think you understand what the findings mean. If the Anzick baby is who you are talking about, again, complicated.

Though the founding populations were a small group of haplogroups, that is true.

dna
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dna
3 years ago
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Also Polynesia

They barely have any Native DNA from north America, especially the northeast and Canada. Most is southern.

cutomorrow
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3 years ago

fascinating, I can say I have had four co workers and their families, move out of state in the past 16 months

M
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M
3 years ago

Just maybe there was slightly more residents in the fourth quarter of 2020 because that’s topically when people come in temporarily for college. This article gives no statistics or actually numbers just a hypothetical “slightly more”. How much is slightly more? Is it 50 people, 100 people, 500 people? Who knows! The term slightly more is subjective to the person using it. They do not even say where they collected any information of new residents. All of this information is just a person’s thoughts and ideas. You really think people living in San Francisco with incomes of 150,000 to over 300,000 came to Humboldt with no job replacement prospects because of wildfire which San Francisco county has zero of or because of COVID? That sounds ridiculous. It more likely that people came into the county during the fourth quarter which is harvest season. I feel like I just read an entire article that was just thoughts conjured up in a person’s head; like their inside voice just came out. Wow! .

Nicholas Corcovelos
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Nicholas Corcovelos
3 years ago

How come “illegals” are cleaning hotel rooms and filling out fast food orders? Cuz HumTweekers can’t get or hold jobs.

wtf?
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wtf?
3 years ago

Because they can be paid less. Slave labor. They live in the bushes and crammed into a single bedroom apts or trailers as well. No one can work for less than livable wages otherwise. No one should. Pay people enough to afford to live here and the locals will do the same jobs. Good local workers have been leaving the area for some time- can’t afford housing.

Besides that, I see tweekers of all colors working in many motels. I don’t know what you’re talking about. Most of the harder working illegals are working in the hills.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago

Perhaps they flew in and overstayed on a visa, the people that came with the cartels owe thousands of dollars and aren’t paying them with motel 6 paychecks.

EX-NORCAL
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EX-NORCAL
3 years ago

FUCK Humboldt

Kris Wibbenhorst
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Kris Wibbenhorst
3 years ago

So Humboldt gained residents, but that doesn’t mean that California as a whole didn’t lose residents. There’s other census data showing California is losing population…

https://www.newgeography.com/content/006891-california-loses-70000-residents-2019-2020

Jack
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Jack
2 years ago

From 2010 to 2020, 1.3 million more people left California for other states than came to California from other states. The flow out of the state was especially stark in the last two years, with a net loss of almost 500,000 people. Just follow the money. My AZ houses have literally doubled in value, and Elon is complaining about housing shortages in TX (cause theyre moving from cali). Its VERY clear ppl are fleeing cali