Public Health Officer Confirms Total Of 14 Cases In Humboldt Were Covid-19 Variant, Applauds Granada And Public Health Teamwork, Says Further Spread Of Variant Is Unlikely

For this type of report, the Emergency Operations Center takes the questions from the media, and staff reads them on camera to officials for their response. The resulting video, called a Media Availability, is then provided to news outlets at the end of the day.

Here are some of the main points covered in the February 18th Media Availability session with a summary of answers from Humboldt County Public Health Officer Dr. Ian Hoffman, followed by questions we would have liked to ask in response if appropriate.

EOC:  Thank you for joining us for the February 18th media availability with County Health  Officer Dr. Ian Hoffman, who would like to begin by providing a brief statement on the new COVID-19 variant that was recently identified in Humboldt County.

Dr. Hoffman?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

Thank you. This came out of an incredible partnership with many, many folks who work both here within Public Health, at a research lab in San Francisco, the CZ Biohub, folks from the CDPH – California Department of  Public Health and our partners here at Granada.  

The findings of this really highlight how well all of these different groups have worked together, and I think Humboldt County should be really proud of the work that’s been done to allow this finding.  So, thank you to everyone who’s participated in this.  

We really feel that although the outcome within Granada is devastating, the larger implications for how this turned out for the community are really a wonderful story to tell, so, thank you. 

1 minute 20 seconds in:

Question by The Times-Standard: How many variants, and how many cases of each, have been detected in Humboldt County to date?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

So far, the sequencing that we’ve done here for Humboldt County has identified only one of the variants of concern, or the variants that are being monitored, which is the L452r.  That is widely being called the ‘California variant’. So, we found one of those back in November through some of the sequencing that was done and the information that came a few weeks ago. 

In this latest round there were another 13 of those that were found.  So we’ve had 14 of those L452r variants found to date in Humboldt County, which is not a surprising number considering that statewide this is now becoming the dominant variant that they’re finding in genetic sequencing.  As many as 40% in some of the sampling to date.  This other – the N501y mutation that we found and identified that was specific only to the Granada outbreak, is not a variant of  concern.  It is a single point mutation that is also contained in some of the variants of concern from the U.K., South Africa and Brazil, but in and of itself that single mutation is not considered a variant of concern. So far these are the only major findings in our sequencing that have been found to date.

3 mins 5 sec in: 

Question by The Times-Standard: Is the county going to invest more in genomic sequencing to keep track of new variants?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

We do a lot of genomic sequencing. Of our positive samples in the county, we’ve sequenced nearly 22%, which is much higher than the recommended.  Within our lab, which are the ones that get  sequenced, so the Humboldt County Public Health lab has had about 50% of all of our positives have been sent to CZ Biohub for sequencing. Now, that’s nearly all of these possible sequenceable specimens because not every single positive specimen can be sequenced. There has to be enough of, enough virus in there to sequence it. So, we really are doing a lot more sequencing than most, both in California, and in the country. There is a new national initiative from the Biden administration to increase funding for sequencing. So if there’s a possibility of doing more we’ll certainly look into that, but we’re doing quite a bit already.
   

4 mins 35 sec in:

Question by The Times-Standard: With multiple variants on the rise, can you explain how they would interact if they were spreading in the community at the same time? 

Would the more virulent and vaccine-resistant strains become more dominant?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

There’s a lot going into the factors that would determine if a variant became more dominant or  not. Things like the investigations and  the tracing, the ability to stop strains if they do enter our community or if mutations like this come up; the amount of testing goes into it; additionally how the public is acting.  If we’re following the guidance, if we’re masking and distancing, we have less virus transmission in our community. We’re not traveling bringing in new viruses from the outside – those are all things that will determine whether or not a variant of concern comes into our county and spreads easily.  Or, if we have something like this like a de novo mutation, would it be able to take  a hold and become more widespread.

5 mins 45 sec in:   

Question by Redwood News: Can you tell us everything that Public Health knows about the characteristics of the new mutation identified in Humboldt County? 

Is it more transmissible? 

Does it make people sicker? 

How is it different from other strains of the virus seen here locally? 

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

This one particular mutation, the N501y, as I mentioned, is part of the three variants of concern, but those have other mutations as well. So we don’t know whether this one would behave exactly the same as those other ones, in terms of its transmissibility or infectiousness. Given some of the laboratory studies that have been done around 501y mutations, it is highly suggested that it is stickier and can bind more to the receptors that allow the virus to enter the cells. So based on that and the fact of what we saw in Granada, it could be one of the reasons that we saw such wide transmissibility and fast transmission in that setting.

7 mins in:   

Question by Redwood News: The press release says that cases of the variant have been linked to Granada Rehabilitation and Wellness Center and that it doesn’t appear to have spread to the broader community.  Can you explain how Public Health came to this conclusion?  

Is this variant still present in our community? 

Is there any chance it could potentially spread to the broader community in the future?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

Through our investigations and contact tracing, we can really feel confident that there were no lines of transmission from the case at Granada.  All of the contacts of anyone who was there were contacted, put on quarantine and there is no evidence that any of those folks either transmitted to other settings outside of Granada. Additionally, the sequencing that we’ve done to date has not shown any spread of that particular – we haven’t seen the 501y mutation – in any other samples. 

We’ll continue to monitor for that through ongoing genetic sequencing, but I do think that given the time period that’s passed since Granada, that if this were something that was going to be much more widespread we very likely would have seen it by now.  

8 mins 25 sec in:  

Question by Redwood News: What does the presence of this new variant mean for Humboldt County moving forward? 

How can residents best protect themselves against this new variant?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

I don’t think there’s any concern for Humboldt with this new variant. I think it’s really important for us to recognize that this is not a variant of concern and it’s different than say the U.K. variant, the South African variant, the Brazilian variants and other variants that we are monitoring.  It’s a single mutation and it very much seems to be contained to this one outbreak and did not spread from there.  

As far as all variants go, the best thing we can do is to continue to do everything that we’ve been doing.  We have to wear masks, distance avoid gatherings, and wash our hands.  And those things will prevent the variants of concern and if this were circulating in our community, that would be the same exact thing that would stop that from circulating broadly here.

9 mins 30 sec in:  

Question by KMUD News: Can you describe how Covid variants occur in general and how this local variant may have developed?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman:

The coronavirus reproduces inside of our body and makes millions of new viruses every time it makes a copy of itself, there’s a potential that it can make a mistake in that replication of the genetic code.  Those sorts of mistakes can sometimes confer advantages to the genetics of the virus.  This is not the first time this has been seen. This mutation has come up in other places, obviously in those variants of concern, but also as a single point mutation it has shown up in other places around the United States and around the world.  

The way it can propagate is if it’s able to continue to spread beyond the original outbreak and if it’s not contained.  So, I think that’s the important piece that we’re really focusing on with this particular situation with Granada that it really is based on all of our evidence today. It appears to be contained and did not spread and so was not able to become a variant of concern.

11 mins in:   

Question by KMUD News: Will this variant be added to the CDC’s “Emerging Variant Cases in the United States” map?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

No. The CDC map is only for variants of concern. So those are ones that, again, have been identified as circulating broadly. This is a different kind of situation, with a single point mutation that seems to be contained to one local outbreak.

11 mins 30 sec in:  

Question by KMUD News: Have other samples been sent to CZ Biohub since January? Will there be continued genomic surveillance locally?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

Absolutely. We continue to send samples as frequently as we possibly can.

11 mins 45 sec in:   

Question by KMUD News: How does the genetic sequences from this variant differ from others and why was it more contagious?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

I believe we already addressed that.

12 mins in:

Question by The North Coast Journal: How many samples from Humboldt County have been sent to CZ Biohub for testing since the beginning of the Granada outbreak in November? 

Do you believe it is a comprehensive enough sample to say with confidence that this variant did not spread beyond the facility?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

I don’t have exact numbers on for that, but we do send 100% really of what is sequenceable with the regularity. So yes, there have been more sent since this time and we continue to get that information back from CZ Biohub and we’ll continue to let anyone know immediately if there’s a variant of concern. In this case with a mutation, we want to really kind of study it and see and understand it before we make any determinations about talking more broadly about it so that we can do it in a thoughtful way.

13 mins in: 

Question by The North Coast Journal: Is there evidence to suggest whether this new variant is linked to a higher rate of critical outcomes from the disease?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

I don’t believe there’s enough evidence to suggest that right now.

13 mins 10 sec in:   

Question by The North Coast Journal: How is this variant similar/dissimilar to others discovered in other parts of the state, country and world?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

This shares only that one mutation at the in 501y.  So that is with those three variants, but also has been seen in other locations as single mutations that haven’t tended to spread.

13 mins 40 sec in: 

Question by The North Coast Journal: Does discovery of this variant change anything about how samples will be sent for genomic testing moving forward?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

No. We continue to send samples on a regular basis and as many as we can, we’ll continue to do that.

14 mins in:

Question by The North Coast Journal: What are the next steps to study this new variant and monitor for its spread?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

We’ll continue to do our ongoing epidemiological and investigations, which could potentially link any cases to each other. We’ll continue to monitor through genetic sequencing, and I think really this just reinforces, again, the need for more testing in our community, so that we can find these types of things if they are out there.  And for really following distancing, masking and gathering guidance.

14 mins 45 sec in: 

Question by Reporter Daniel Mintz: A quote from today’s news release indicated that it isn’t unexpected to see variants occasionally emerge from outbreaks. But this is one of many variants around the world that have adopted mutations useful to the virus. What are the implications of this level of viral diversity and how likely is it to be a continuing trend?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman:

I think it really shows that this virus, every chance it gets to reproduce it is a chance for it to show a mutation. Some mutations like this one likely confer some sort of advantage to the virus. So, again going back to the basics of the more we can stop the spread of this the less chance this virus has to mutate.  

We will continue to do everything we can here at Humboldt County Public Health and the Humboldt County Public Health lab to try to stop this disease from spreading and we ask everyone to do our part with masking, distancing, avoiding gatherings, hand washing.

15 mins 45 sec in:   

Question by The Times-Standard: Should people be concerned about reinfection after they’ve been vaccinated?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

There are rare cases that have been reported so far, and it’s being very closely monitored.  I would just encourage everyone once you’re vaccinated, really important we gotta continue to do all the same things: distancing, wearing a mask, avoiding gathering, keeping and just keeping in your household and hopefully as there’s more data out there, we’ll know more and can update folks on whether there is a risk for reinfection or what the risk is.  

16 mins 30 sec in:   

Question by The Times-Standard: Is it likely COVID-19 is here to stay and may require a yearly booster shot like the flu once everyone is vaccinated?

Answer by Dr. Hoffman: 

Again, time will tell and studies will tell, but I think that’s probably likely. 

Community members with questions or concerns are encouraged to call 441-5000 for additional information. 

For updates on vaccination distribution in California, go to cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/COVID-19Vaccine.aspx.

Local information is also available online at humboldtgov.org or during business hours by contacting [email protected] 

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Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
3 years ago

“The coronavirus reproduces inside of our body . ”

What about that obvious statement is so impossible for people to understand?

The reproduction and symptom creation process happens when they hijack your cells! This virus is nothing without a body.

How’s yours? Statistically speaking we are Fat. Pasty. Meat-stuffed. Intoxicated. Drugged. Sedentary. Faithless.

YOU are half the equation! That should give you “food” for thought.

Science has proven even OTC antacids are linked to suppressed immune response! Our daily choices determine our fortitude.

Viri can only duplicate, and continue to multiply in a welcoming host!

If you do a simple bit of study on that process, you will drop some of your weakling victim-thinking.

The covid-19 virus, or any virus , is nothing without a host!

Be a bad one.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
3 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Its not always as simple as a good diet. I’ve ate candy bars ,donuts , hamburgers, just plan crap my whole life, my ex on the other hand always ate pretty healthy, no soda, no candy, no donuts , all the stuff i live on. We had to get physicals at middle age, my good cholesterol was average, my bad cholesterol was below normal, blood sugar excellent, blood pressure excellent, weight considered average, my ex on other hand needed some work, boy she was pissed. When you inherent a awesome metabolism and stay active, you can eat chocolate donuts and chips and wash it down with soda all day long. Am i afraid of dying of the flu , no.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

But you see, Covid19 is an overactive immune response, that drowns you, so, some people say, OTC antacids’ immune response suppression might be a good thing.

Got logic ?
Guest
Got logic ?
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Holy misread news, Guest!

There is a big difference between our natural “immune response” (our body attacking or preventing duplication of bad cells) mounted in response to exposure to a microbe or virus, and an “autoimmune response” which is when your body attacks itself, like in the respiratory failure in severe covid .

Ffs!

Have some Harvard :

https://onlinelearning.hms.harvard.edu/hmx/immunity/

But keep popping those zantac thinking it will prevent this hot mess :

https://theconversation.com/severe-covid-may-be-caused-by-autoantibodies-here-is-what-that-means-152053

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Unfortunately for that idea, “SARS-CoV-2 infection is mainly asymptomatic or mild during childhood. Most children have moderate or high viral loads regardless of age, symptoms or severity of infection.” In other words, the virus is happily reproducing in children yet the disease is rarely noticeable in them.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33031141/

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago

So far in HumCo there have been 32 deaths attributed to Covid. How many were Granada residents? Should anyone be applauding Granada? How about a big round of applause for those who kept grandmas confined so they could die alone. Good job Granada! The government needed some deaths to justify their actions and you delivered!

VMG
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VMG
3 years ago

Thanks for that comment, Got Logic, and thanks for your message, Dr Hoffman…

Yes, respiratory viruses are seasonal, and, they attach to the same site where your Vitamin D should attach, if you had any Vitamin D…

One of the most interesting items appearing here is the talk of “double masking”… I’m amused by this idea, but look at the following story:

https://apnews.com/article/hospitals-ration-n95-masks-coronavirus-b40b902991b75d8ae4000a20bccd6af4

Healthcare workers who encounter actual infected patients, are being forced to wear the SAME MASK, all day!

So, the same hospital administrators, and Corporate Hospital operators, who failed to stock their hospitals with adequate supplies, and who failed to staff their hospitals with adequate numbers of permanent staff, are now risking the safety of, heck, everyone! And, Dr Hoffman is asking the general population to “double mask”!

Double Masking is the most ridiculous idea since Susan Seaman decided that the homeless should “just go away”…

Meanwhile, take a few minutes and watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha2mLz-Xdpg&fbclid=IwAR2DXF6Al5poX0_EuIQ4xny4ocNAjNMDyK0512eJTERS5VZNdkPNxh4la8k

If you are fat, old, dark skinned, unhealthy or drug addicted, take a 5000IU Vitamin D cap every day! Vitamin D attaches to the same site that respiratory viruses would attach to, which blocks the infection, in the first place!

Extensive research tells us all that viruses are seasonal, and that Vitamin D is important in preventing respiratory virus infection.

Like I said before the vaccine is a remarkable tool, the best we have right now. All this testing and squawking about “variants” is pretty silly, when a bottle of Vitamin D could be the key to prevention…

COVID testing is a fantastic waste of resources, but then, I don’t own a laboratory, myself!

Wash your hands, watch how you socialize, wear 6 masks if you want to, but get your vaccine, take your Vitamin D, and lose weight, quit smoking, get some sunshine and exercise, and be safe, be well!

Namaste!

Obliviously
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Obliviously
3 years ago
Reply to  VMG

It’s rather amazing that people like Dr Faucci, Dr Frankovich and Dr Hoffman haven’t been recommending vitamin D all along. While it’s not a magical bullet that will end it, it’s undoubtedly a very important protection that should have been promoted from the get go. Ate they in fact the true science deniers?

Free estimates
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Free estimates
3 years ago
Reply to  Obliviously

Or vitamin c. Or zinc. You know, the stuff they give you to prevent getting sick? Still haven’t seen any PSA’s about losing weight during the pandemic, as obesity is the number one co-morbidity.

It’s ok. Just shop at big box stores. Buy some more crap food and get it delivered by grubhub. Gyms are closed, but liquor stores are open. They care about your health! 🤦‍♂️

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
3 years ago
Reply to  Obliviously

All they have promoted is masks and vaccine. Apparently no kick backs in vitamin D or steriod inhalers. Maybe if the milk advisory kicked down a trip to cancun for some of these officials, then they would be pushing whole milk all day long. Mask industry killing it right now, and plenty of money to give in incentives.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
3 years ago
Reply to  Obliviously

To answer your question Obliviously.

Heck yeah!

The goal of this scam is not to “protect” anybody. There are many alternatives to the poison jab.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  VMG

If a persons is deficient in a vitamin and unable to fight off the effects of illness , then supplementation might be helpful. But if a person isn’t deficient, then supplementation would not help. And over supplementation can be dangerous in itself especially vitamin d can cause heath problems. ” Adults who regularly far exceed the 4,000 international units (IUs) daily safe upper limit for vitamin D might may end up with serious heart problems.” It is not a case where more is always a good thing.
https://www.webmd.com/diet/guide/effects-of-taking-too-many-vitamins

https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-and-vitamin-d/expert-answers/faq-20493088

https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/02/12/these-vitamins-dont-lessen-covid-19-symptoms-study-finds/

Mike
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Mike
3 years ago

I’m just worried for the blacks and Hispanic because they aren’t smart enough to use the internet to access information about covid (according to the current president)

Me
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Me
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Expect more of that, he can’t help himself.

“If you don’t vote for joe Biden you ain’t black “

I like stars
Guest
I like stars
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Yep. Probably the most racist president in our history. As he slides further into dementia we are likely to see even more of what he really thinks.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

He is, like many liberal do gooders, more than a little patronising. Irritating to the recipients for sure. No one wants to be patronized by someone who can’t see their own problems. And Biden is very much a patronizing SOB who sees himself as a savior rather than a good person among equals.

However to whip that sort of statement into calling him a racist is just the sort of thing that liberals did to condemn Trump. It’s taking words out of context so they seem to support the worst possible interpretation.

I like stars
Guest
I like stars
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

He said he didn’t want his kids to grow up in a racial jungle when he opposed school desegregation. He spoke of super predators when he fought for his signature crime bill. He eulogized Sen KKK Byrd. If someone shows you exactly what they are, you should believe it.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

A perfect example of what doesn’t make sense.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
3 years ago

” So, again going back to the basics of the more we can stop the spread of this the less chance this virus has to mutate. ”

From what I’m reading, we want as many mutations as possible, not attempt to detract from it. This requires exposure? Think 1918 Flu pandemic. It eventually “disappeared”. Herd immunity or mutated so much it became inconsequential? Both?

“However, their [RNA virus] mutation rates are almost disastrously high, and a small increase in mutation rate can cause RNA viruses to go locally extinct.”

https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.3000003

From what I’m reading, we want as many mutations as possible, not attempt to detract from it. ??

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

“Further spread is unlikely”.

Why does that ring a bell?
Where have we heard that one before?

“We have it totally under control”.

“Soon it will be down to pretty much zero”.

“A really wonderful story to tell”

“We’ve really done a great job.”

“I’d give it a solid 10”

Hang on to your hats, folks, we are about to be taken for another ride, right on schedule.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

First one mask, then no masks, then two masks and now we have no variants. The more these folks talk the dumber they look. These guys are a bunch of whack jobs!!! Everyone throw away your stupid masks and get over this b.s. already. This is beyond ridiculous.

research this!
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research this!
3 years ago

VMG, you said “Like I said before the vaccine is a remarkable tool, the best we have right now. ”

I call Bullshit!
How is a an untested, unapproved, experimental gene therapy that doesn’t prevent infection or transmission the best tool we have right now?

I would argue that Ivermectin & Hydroxychloroquine are the best tools available.
Both are safe and have been in use for years.
Both have been proven effective. Ask Dr. Pierre Kory or Dr. Zelenko.

Of course, If it were to be acknowledged that these therapeutics are effective, Emergency Use Authorization could not have been given for the gene therapy (masquerading as a vaccine)

VMG
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VMG
3 years ago
Reply to  research this!

How do you feel about the Monoclonal Antibody? Have you learned anything about immunology from all of this COVID news?

Vaccines are great tools, and there are many diseases we have no vaccine for, like Ebola, Zika, Dengue, and others…

I will always take the vaccine, and when the “covid crisis” winds down, you will be able to thank the vaccines, and the natural tendency for viral mutation to occur, resulting in a less infectious variant predominating.

COVID will not go away, but “double masking” certainly will… Herd immunity? Yes and no. It will help, but every year will continue to bring infections.

Good luck Research This!, and nobody will try to force you to take the vaccine, and if you want to take Hydroxychloroquine, have at it… Didn’t work for Trump, but the monoclonal antibody probably saved his sorry butt…

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/02/scicheck-instagram-post-makes-invalid-comparison-between-covid-19-and-flu-vaccines/

The vaccine IS remarkable, and a very high achievement in a short time. Advances in immunology have been amazing, but the fear is great too… Don’t give in to irrational fears, we all have plenty to learn here!

Research This!
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Research This!
3 years ago
Reply to  VMG

“There is no justifiable reason for not using these cures, and there is no justifiable reason for not initiating a prevention program based on supplements, diet, and a more healthy life style. The failure of governments and health authorities to employ these proven means amounts to premeditated mass murder. The reason people have died from Covid is the refusal to treat and to prevent with known effective means. Instead, governments and health authorities have interfered with doctors and prevented treatment with HCQ and Ivermectin, while using the presstitutes to brainwash the public that these effective and safe treatments are dangerous. ”

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2021/02/18/the-covid-pandemic-is-the-result-of-public-health-authorities-blocking-effective-treatment/

4Trinity
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4Trinity
3 years ago
Reply to  Research This!

The unjustifiable reason is:

The “vaccines” can’t be issued on an emergency basis, unapproved, if there is a viable alternative.

The jab must happen at all costs.

(now why do you suppose that is…?)

Mr and Mrs
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Research This!

Right on point research this. I’m pushing for lots of cardio for strong lungs. Vitamin d during days with no sun.

People don’t realize how much happiness effects your immune system.

4Trinity
Guest
4Trinity
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr and Mrs

Exactly.

VMG, though I disagree, I very much appreciate you taking the time to respond. I read every word.

I’m with Research this of course. Even IF the “vaccine” was actually safe, I would still have to ask the “why?”.

Do you really think “we’re all in it together”? Are you not beginning to see the man behind the curtain?

(I didn’t get my 20billion, if we’re “ALL” in it…)

It’s not about our health though msm would have you believe otherwise.

(paid for with that 20billion)

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
3 years ago

Or everyone that contracted the variant never got tested. I don’t know too many people that will run to the doctor to get a covid test. Waste of time.

Mr and Mrs
Guest
3 years ago

Every time I get tested I’m kinda bummed when it’s negative. I’m serious.

VMG
Guest
VMG
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr and Mrs

Every time I go where there are “patients”, I feel dirty afterwards… Not getting a COVID test, not ever, and I’m for staying away from Doctors, Clinics, and anywhere else where people are breathing…

Got my second dose.

In my 1911 I trust
Guest
In my 1911 I trust
3 years ago
Reply to  VMG

Excellent. People are breathing everywhere. I think you should avoid all contact with people, no matter what the cost. I also think every single person should take the gene therapy. I’m glad you are already on it. You are taking the approach that I advocate everybody except my family taking.