A War on Words: Vandals Cut Down and Steal Laytonville Resident’s ‘Black Lives Matter’ Sign

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The first version of the Black Lives Matter sign was planted near Hog Ranch north of Laytonville earlier this year. [Photo provided by Susy Barsotti]

Susy Barsotti, the owner of the Black Oak Ranch and a representative of Laytonville’s Hog Farm community, demonstrated the community’s support for the Black Lives Matter movement by displaying a large sign with those words along the frontage of her property which abuts Highway 101 north of Laytonville. On the last day of 2020, Barsotti discovered vandals had used a chainsaw to cut down the sign and steal it.

Barsotti told us that the sign was a collective effort by Laytonville’s Hog Farm community to demonstrate the commune’s support for the Black Lives Matter movement.

She explained that the December 31 removal of the sign was the final act of escalating vandalism that began five months ago.

The first act of vandalism occurred after a late September cannabis robbery that occurred in Laytonville when four armed men entered a Laytonville residence and held a man, woman, and juvenile girl hostage for several hours.

Barsotti explained that the cannabis robbery and hostage situation was literally right next door and “my mostly elder community was terrified in their homes.”

Photo of the citizen arrest taken from social media site.

Photo of the citizen arrest taken from social media site.

When one of the suspected cannabis robbers was hogtied by residents, Redheaded Blackbelt and MendoFever ran a story regarding the act of vigilante justice Barsotti commented on RHBB’s article that though she understood the community was victimized, “[T]he image was problematic because it could be misconstrued under the circumstances of the cultural moment.”

Barsotti recalled feeling personally threatened when an anonymous commenter responded to her by saying “the next time we round up the bad guys, we can send them to Suzy’s house.”

Another commenter specifically disclosed that Barsotti’s Black Oak Ranch was prominently displaying a Black Lives Matter sign along Highway 101.

Barsotti said she and the Hog Farm are well-known in the Laytonville community for their political advocacy. She and other members of the commune attended a Black Lives Matter rally held in Laytonville in July.

Just days later, the first act of vandalism occurred that Barsotti referred to as “cute.” Someone had changed the sign from “Black Lives Matter” to “Black Lies Matter.”

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Repainted Black Lives Matter sign.

The second and third acts of vandalism both came in the form of what Barsotti called a “splatter-by,” essentially splattering paint across the sign obscuring the message.

Instead of covering up the vandalism, Barsotti and the Hog Farm would repaint the “Black Lives Matter” logo over the splatter in hopes to “create a conversation and provide an educational moment.” Barsotti called the second “splatter-by” a form of “whitewashing” because the vandals used white paint.

The last act of vandalism was discovered on New Year’s Eve morning when Barsotti found evidence that a vandal had chainsawed the sign’s supports and taken it.

Barsotti said, “On reflection, there has been an escalation in the vandalism. I consider the paint throwing far more whimsical; the chainsaw seemed more violent.”

Despite the campaign to silence her and the Hog Farm community’s speech, Barsotti said, “[E]very time this happens, we feel more determined to keep this message up.”

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On New Year’s Eve, the Black Lives Matter Sign was cut down and the sign was stolen.

Barsotti said the Laytonville community had rallied around the Hog Farm after the destruction of the sign. She said a friend at Long Valley Lumber and another friend were willing to donate 22-foot metal uprights to display the message once again.

Barsotti expressed empathy for whoever is committing these acts of vandalism. She said, “[T]o think the message of “Black Lives Matter” is causing so much consternation is educational.”

Part of the Mendocino County ethos is the “live and let live” mentality, Barsotti explained, and so she said she was surprised that another party would go so far as to destroy the sign.

Law enforcement has not been informed of these circumstances, Barsotti said, Hog Farm residents “want to keep the focus on the message.” Ultimately, Barsotti believes “it would be a waste of energy looking for a perp, especially since at some point somebody or another is gonna spill the beans in our small town.”

When asked about the destruction of political speech on private property, Mendocino County Sheriff Matt Kendall said, “[A]s per the First Amendment, everyone had a right to say what they want as long as it’s not criminal.”

Sheriff Kendall added that in a county like Mendocino, “[W]e don’t have enough neighbors to go around. We have to help our neighbors. If we cannot respect their speech, how can we respect them?”

Sheriff Kendall offered his version of Voltaire’s maxim to sum up his perspective on political speech: “I might not like what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”

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Nuttincowboy
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Nuttincowboy
3 years ago

It takes a special kind of coward to do this kind of vandalism. The simpering wimp(s) who are so afraid of the mere concept of equality must fear their own karma.
They should be easy enough to find. Look for the usual tracks; flags from enemies who’ve lost wars against America, lots of “No Trespassing” signs, security worthy of an ammo dump around their garage and bad teeth.
Kudos to the good hearted folks in the Hog Farm community.
Keep up the good fight.

Fun with facts!
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Fun with facts!
3 years ago
Reply to  Nuttincowboy

“The simpering wimp(s) who are so afraid of the mere concept of equality must fear their own karma.
They should be easy enough to find. Look for the usual tracks; flags from enemies who’ve lost wars against America, lots of “No Trespassing” signs, security worthy of an ammo dump around their garage and bad teeth.”

That kind of stereotyping in return is half the problem. You come across as a very prejudiced individual yourself. There’s an effort to keep us all divisive and at eachother’s ideological throats.

The conversation “woke folk” don’t want to have:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVD04a_T0vI

Chaplin dave
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Chaplin dave
3 years ago

Can we please, please respect others now more than ever.
Instead of a wise crack why not a smile under your mask. To all.

iLoveplants
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iLoveplants
3 years ago
Reply to  Nuttincowboy

I’ve seen this sign a lot and it cracks me up that white folk have bought into this scam. Is a black life in the womb one that matters? Why are they aborting so many black babies if they really believe what they preach. I have a lot more to say but I will leave it there.

Yeah, sure
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Yeah, sure
3 years ago
Reply to  iLoveplants

Of course you’ll leave that little bomb here. You failed to mention WHY black women have more abortions, but that doesn’t interest you, does it. I’m surprised you left out Black on Black Crime, All Lives Matter and any other number of White Nationalistic moronic “talking points”.
Just can’t help yourself, can you?

ILoveplants
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ILoveplants
3 years ago
Reply to  Yeah, sure

Why do they have more abortions? Please tell. Is it because my tax dollars pay for it? Maybe if they had to pay for it themselves and it was not so easy to have an abortion they would use protection or at least think twice. Calling white people moronic sounds pretty racist dude, are you black? Yeah sure!! I would rather die on my feet than on my knees!!!!

ILoveplants
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ILoveplants
3 years ago
Reply to  Geist

I never said I wasn’t pro abortion, as yes there are instances that justify it. However it has become so easy that it’s disgusting. I don’t want to pay for someone else’s bad decisions and that’s what’s really going on. Black Lives Matter is a hypocrite statement they want everyone else to care while they slaughter their own right out the gate

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  ILoveplants

And what of the economically challenged WHITE women that get abortions “on your dime”?
I bet you also hate your tax dollars being spent on caring for children once they’re born if they happen to be born into an economically challenged household.
Why don’t you do your own research before you make ignorant comments here. But you don’t really care , do you? You just care about throwing around White National talking points for the shock value.

Geist
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Geist
3 years ago
Reply to  ILoveplants

A second-trimester fetus will not survive independant of the woman its growing inside, is not a district life, does not “matter” and is pink, not black. Nice attempt at concern trolling [edit]

4Trinity
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4Trinity
3 years ago
Reply to  Geist

I haven’t actually checked your links Geist but maybe choose something besides google? Pretty sandy hill to die on…..

Geist
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Geist
3 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

It links to THE BIBLE, new international edition, Book of Numbers, 5:11, God’s explicit endorsement of abortion.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Geist

No. Again. It is a link to an idea that giving a woman who is pregnant a magical test to check if the baby belongs to her husband. If she has not had sex with another man, nothing happens- no abortion, no anything. If she has cheated on her husband and the baby is not his, then her punishment is that God will magically abort the baby and condemn her to disease. In fact, it treats the abortion as her punishment for sinning, which is a far, far cry from being “pro abortion.” Not to mention God is considered the judge, not any human. Sheesh. You couldn’t be more wrong.

Geist
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Geist
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

If we discarded anything magical or scientifically inaccurate from the bible, we would be left with a book of geneologies and Paul complaining about his political rivals. The bible contains a ton of magic rituals, and there’s no evidence that the reader is supposed to just ignore sections that seem implausible. Was Jesus’ blood sacrifice for our sins just an empty ritual? Or the Jewish blood saccrifice rituals that proceeded it? Is communion just an empty ritual? Why bother with prayer, isn’t God omniscient anyhow?

The fact is that the writers of the Mosiac texts wrote an abortion ritual into the Torah. Its not God administering the herbs and dust and curses, its a priest. An omnipotent God could abort a fetus with or without a ritual, right?

Ancient Jews believed that life begins at birth, with the “breath of life.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-beginning-of-life-in-judaism/amp/
The idea that life begins at conception is a hellenistic (*pagan!!!*) concept, based on the “Homonculous,” the idea that semen contained tiny, fully formed people.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Geist

All that really is is an oft repeated misunderstanding done by looking for magic words to support untenable wishful thinking like any online conspiracist does. It gets repeated mindlessly by people looking to attack other’s beliefs with (heavy sarcasm) the authority they think only they are wise enough to have discovered. It gets so old because it seems easily rebutted only it keeps surfacing because, like P. T. Barnum is reputed to have said, “There’s a sucker born every minute”.

Mendexico County Farms
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Mendexico County Farms
3 years ago
Reply to  iLoveplants

They have more abortions because the men always leave after they find out they are fathers.

Whitey
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Whitey
3 years ago

True that.

maxwell
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maxwell
3 years ago

except that the raw data contradicts that racist stereotype.

i swear, it’s like y’all never even took an intro to sociology class in high school.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  maxwell

Then provide the raw data, not just another biased opinion pointed in the other cirection.

ItzIsaac
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ItzIsaac
3 years ago
Reply to  iLoveplants

You’re totally right..

Bob
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Bob
3 years ago
Reply to  iLoveplants

Idiot they have a hog ranch they don’t abort black babies.your weird read the story

Often wonder as well
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Often wonder as well
3 years ago
Reply to  iLoveplants

That is an interesting concept on the subject. If the lives of a marginal community (13%) of a total national population was concerned about its market share; why would they abort over 200 million of their species annually? It really does not make any logical sense in regards to the statements made in the argument.

Ken Waltz
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Ken Waltz
3 years ago
Reply to  Nuttincowboy

Racists are a special kind of coward!

stuber
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stuber
3 years ago
Reply to  Nuttincowboy

40,000 years or so ago, we started leaving Africa, and migrating North, East, and West. As we began to settle certain areas of different geographic climate and topography, our bodies began to change, or adapt to these conditions for us to survive long term in those locations. We are all one race, or group of people. All our components work in each other. Blue Corvette, green Corvette, take one body off and put it on the other, all works the same.

Observer
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Observer
3 years ago

We seem to be selective in our outrage/coverage.
Imagine an “All lives matter sign” being torn down, would anyone report on it or be outraged?
We live in a world of Hippocrates.

Xingu
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Xingu
3 years ago
Reply to  Observer

Hippocrates? You have to be joking.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Xingu

Like most thinks that always correct but never think about context, spell check is at its most persistent when wrong.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Wut?

It would be nice if we did live in a world full of Hippocrates(plural) who believe in abstaining from wrong doing and harm.

Hypocrites are definitely a different critter.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

Auto correct corrected auto correct into always correct. Now that is irony.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Take some of your own medicine, it’s good for the soul…

Sleepy Alligator
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Sleepy Alligator
3 years ago
Reply to  Observer

Here let me help you out. You obviously know what the person meant, correct spelling or not. If you don’t then maybe it’s your intelligence that needs to be criticized. Plus correcting other people’s spelling on here is a thing of the past.

4Thanksgiving
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4Thanksgiving
3 years ago

At least the sign was blue.

Martin
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Martin
3 years ago

Nuttincowboy, nicely said. I agree with you 100%. Hopefully some day down the road this vandalism will stop.

Every life matters
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Every life matters
3 years ago

Every life matters would be more appropriate, why only support one color of life? Seems racist to me honestly

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago

If someone were to say “Police Lives Matter”, would you automatically think they are saying that firefighters lives don’t matter?

Life = Life
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Life = Life
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Exactly kym. All lives matter good point.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  Life = Life

All lives do matter BUT when I’m saying I have cancer and you chip in with you have a headache…well, one of us is a jerk.

Anon
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Anon
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

So you’re ok with 2500 police dying at hands of their fellow police officers each year ?

A stat which essentially has sent the message police lives don’t matter, to police.

Context .

Writing that valid point off by suggesting every life matters is a jerk just attempts to shut down the discussion. You’re more thoughtful than that I hope.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  Anon

No, I don’t think saying every life matters makes you a jerk. I think saying so when someone is trying to tell you that black people are having a disproportionately difficult time in society (AKA Black Lives Matter) means the person saying that could be insensitive, a recluse who hasn’t absorbed that their experience may not be the same as that of someone of color, or they’re a racist, or possibly something else I haven’t thought of yet. I’m willing to concede that someone can’t yet grock the insensitivity of insisting that people can’t bring forward their concerns about how black people are treated without insisting that well jews are treated badly and so are redheads. But it doesn’t mean that I think their level of sensitivity is something I aspire to…

Anon
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Anon
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I’m less curious about why someone might shoot down a counter- argument by calling the messenger a jerk, insensitive, or a recluse, (wow. I think you meant that like it was a bad thing, not sure, ) I’m more interested in looking at the whole picture together . Looking at this *police lives matter* world you created . Which you chose not address….

So, you’re ok with ignoring the 2500 out of 2870 hypothetical police homicides (those hypothetical “police lives that matter”) that
happen at the hands of other hypothetical police officers in a year . No sensitivity to those lives lost?

Why do you think the homicidal treatment of blacks , by blacks is of no concern?

But a literal handful -comparatively- of bad encounters with law enforcement, gives the mob permission to destroy downtown Minneapolis?

It’s pure hypocrisy.

The stats, found at your fingertips, speak for themselves. The only “disproportionate” treatment is within the black community.

LEO’s of any race may be real jerks, but try as they might, they will never catch up to the homicide, brutality, and crime rate on suspects, that is perpetrated brother on brother. No way even close. Contrary to popular myth, little black babies don’t have dead fathers because a white cop gunned him down, no. He was likely shot by his own cousin.

The motto “black lives matter” is racist, and simplistic (as it operates under the ignorant premise all white law enforcement are intent on murdering black suspects,) which anyone with common sense knows is a lie.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  Anon

I think we disagree fundamentally when you say “literal handful -comparatively- of bad encounters with law enforcement.” I’m too tired to research this tonight but I’ve done it in the past and handful of encounters doesn’t explain why many probably most parents of black sons have to explain to them a specific way of behaving to keep their children from harm when encountering law enforcement.

Me
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Me
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

How can you judge people by “ the content of their character “ without judging them by their behavior ?

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I was taught a specific way of behaving during law enforcement contact. I thought everyone was.

Both hands stay on the wheel. No actions without first announcing them. Be polite but know your rights.

Also nuances like don’t try to steal the officer’s taser and try to use it on him.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
3 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

😄 …..likewise

Anon
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Anon
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Ironically the same sort of “cautionary pep talk” is actually given by all mothers to their new LAW ENFORCEMENT recruit sons and daughters , of any race, why?

Oh, because of the nearly **triple risk** of being murdered by a *black suspect.*

According to FBI data police officers are *disproportionately* shot and killed by black perps.

In fact, of the 46 officers gunned down on the job in 2017 by 44 perpetrators , 36% were black!

. . We know they are just 13% of the population, so that is nearly a 3x’s greater chance of getting killed *by a black guy* in the line of duty!

Source:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/leoka/2017/topic-pages/felonious_topic_page_-2017
2017, 44 alleged offenders were identified in connection with the 46 law enforcement officers feloniously killed. Of those offenders, the following characteristics are known:

26 of the alleged offenders were White, 16 were Black/African American,1 was American Indian/Alaska Native, and 1 was Asian (See Table 42.)

Meanwhile , we have all been made well aware of the studies that claim twice or even 2.5x’s the risk to black men -over their lifetime – of having a lethal interaction with a law enforcement officer , * of any race* .

Let that simmer.

Those lethal interaction risk stats have nothing to do with the race of the cop.

All cops can, and do kill suspects.

Stats tell us that of 1000 lethal interactions annually with law enforcement , 309 involve POC. And yes, under the racist bile of the BLM movement the 600+ white guys dying at hands of police each year really don’t matter.

How many of those 1000 deaths were “justified,” in that the perpetrator brandished a weapon, or a gnarly hostage situation where literally the bad guy deserves to die?

And how many were legitimate “wrongful” deaths at hands of police?

Regardless of that number, those deaths are “a handful” that any logical person can see most definitely pales in comparison to the 2500+ black:black homicides every single year.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls

Big guy
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Big guy
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kim, there are so many racist comments back and forth on here. Can you read between their lines. Please stop letting this happen on your website. Condoning hair needs to stop here!! Call out both sides if you can see it. I can!!

Kym Kemp
Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  Big guy

If you see a comment you think I missed, Ideally you will comment in reply to it with an explanation of why it concerns you. If I agree, I’ll take it down or edit it.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

We all only have one life. Your cancer does not give you the right to belittle a person who has a headache. It’s not all about you. Not to mention the wide variation of meaning involved involved in the words of both cancer and headache. As one wise woman once told me, a person who has lost once leg is not reconciled to their fate by someone telling them at least they have the other leg.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Well that’s the sort of thinking when people say police lives matter if the subject of discussion is Black Lives Matter. It is typically framed in that context. If there was a conflict between firefighters and police, that is exactly what both the speaker and the listener would reasonably conclude from the remark. And that’s what happens with all identity politics- context matters. Superficial dismissal aside.

Hmm… All movements that start from identity mass politics end up as a hate group- white supremacists, islamists, Christians, Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, etc. Any group that doesn’t act for equality for all as a principle, but rather has a special identity claiming special provenance, is or is becoming a hate group. It’s only a matter of time and survival. It is innate in the concept. That others recognize the problem does not mean they understand less than you.

Just Sayin
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Just Sayin
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

That’s a fallacy Kym. Police are a profession , Blacks are a race. Not a great comparison nor does it logically equate. A firefighter isn’t any greater than a police officer but to apply it to race , absolutely in infers that one needs attention than another race. Race and jobs don’t equate. Fallacy of the left logic.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago

Do you know how tired and broken that argument is? Like so tired and broken it belongs in the trash.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Hat is so trite a response as to be indefensible.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I learned how to do it from you..

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Ah but not so well…

researcher
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researcher
3 years ago

Yes, every life matters, but only Afro and Native American lives have been subjected to genocide, brutality, cultural destruction and a host of other crimes. Crimes that have never been addressed. Crimes that have festered and caused great pain, and continue to this day.

I have had to fight prejudice in myself after growing up in rich white America in the 50s. A time when only white lives mattered. Because they have always mattered. Now it’s time to address the crimes committed through the years against other races and one of those is to see our black brothers and sisters as a beautiful and strong part of America and overcome whatever stops that from happening. And the first thing that needs to be done is open our hearts and embrace the fact that black lives matter.

Nemo Nemo
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3 years ago
Reply to  researcher

“Yes, every life matters, but only Afro and Native American lives have been subjected to genocide, brutality, cultural destruction and a host of other crimes.”

Only these two groups of people? Have you never heard of the Holocaust? The Jews were also very poorly mistreated.

researcher
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researcher
3 years ago
Reply to  Nemo Nemo

Genocide exists around the world, but BLM is about the treatment of blacks in N America and crimes that have never been addressed. And if one discusses that then the genocide of the Indians I feel should also be included.

One day I hope we find some way to address all of these crimes, and try and make things right again, or at least alot better. The one thing we shouldn’t do is ignore the need to make things right.

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
3 years ago
Reply to  researcher

Thanks researcher you said it well… I don’t have time/energy to argue with these people!

THC
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THC
3 years ago
Reply to  researcher

Speaking of conquests in North America, I wonder when Mexicans will be held responsible for the annihilation of the Inca and Aztec people…

4Trinity
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4Trinity
3 years ago
Reply to  THC

You mean…..Spanish?

I don’t think Mexicans did anything to the Inca anyway. ??

researcher
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researcher
3 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

Inca, Zapotec ect should be considered Native Americans.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  researcher

A simple review of history would refute that- even in North America. Which would be a tiny blip in the tiny blip of life on earth. There is archeological evidence of genocides prior to Europeans arriving in the western hemisphere. Just between tribes or immigrants from different periods of migration from the east. And that leaves off the attempted extemination of Mormons, the losers in the Civil War, the Acadians Expulsion, etc where white people wreaked desperate violence on other white people.

The greatest example of “white privilege” that exists is the liberal guilt trip that makes descendents of white European immigrants think they so special that they are responsible for every evil perpetrated against other races. Nope. Hate to disillusion you but you aren’t that special at all. You are just like everyone else in quality and quantity of evil and just as liable to be the victim of other-race racists as the victimizer. Lift up your eyes from your self involved, cherry-picked slice of history to see that you yourself are the result of such conflicts before history itself existed. Europeans came from a crucible of wave after wave after wave of invasions and conflicts from before Persian (Iran?) invasions of the ancient Greeks with their excessive pride in having just barely survived as a culture through the waves of invasions and wars, from the Mongol Empire to the Ottoman Empire. French on British, Croat on Serb, Irish on English who were themselves the result of Norman’s on Saxons who were the result of Germans on Britons. And that’s the simple version. You are the genetic refuse from a hundred thousand genocides. You have no claim to thinking you are any better or worse and certainly should not feel so safely smug in your Lady Bountiful posturing. Ignorance leads to arrogance and you are full if it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/05/science/native-americans-genetics-siberia.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_the_Acadians

researcher
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researcher
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I don’t think I was cherry picking anything. We’re discussing being black in America, which I could never know as I’m not black, but have had many friends tell me what it’s like.

What I would like to understand is why so many see fit to belittle me for expressing what I have written instead of sharing their own views on BLM.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  researcher

Except you said “but only Afro and Native American lives have been subjected to genocide”. Not “BLM is about.” And that simply is not true. As I said even the slightest contact with history shows plenty of examples of genocide both by and to all races, between races and intra race. It’s an extreme function of differentiation itself. And has been evident even since the founding of the US. The “why” if for that reason alone. It is irritating when others to offer blame when they more than partake in the fault themselves.

Whitey
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Whitey
3 years ago
Reply to  researcher

Are you saying that the Jewish were not effected by genocide? Because it sounds like you just said that.

Me
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Me
3 years ago
Reply to  Whitey

He’s probably getting to the fact that they are one of the most successful groups in the world although they’ve been oppressed for a few thousand years.

researcher
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researcher
3 years ago
Reply to  Whitey

No I am not saying that at all. Not even close. As I stated in my second post. My heart breaks whenever there is great injustice to anyone. Learning to treat each other with respect means seeing that we are all God’s children. You, me and everyone else.

But right now the discussion is about living while black in America.

Anon
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Anon
3 years ago
Reply to  researcher

No. Right now the discussion is vandalism of a BLM billboard. A movement that has done much more harm than good in some people’s view.

To which you bring the ridiculous claim that
” only Afro and Native American lives have been subjected to genocide, brutality, cultural destruction.”

Actually, humans – men especially- are historically evidenced to be homicidal, control freaks.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Woman are fine with it too. They rarely will differ from men on the idea. Even as a major victim of the process.

Anon
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Anon
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Oh really.

That’s a funny one.

Because these realtime homicide stats based on RACE and SEX for2016 DO NOT not line up to your “equality in murderhood ” fairytale.

Also found here
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls

Nice victim blaming tho, bro.

Fun with facts!
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Fun with facts!
3 years ago

““[T]he image was problematic because it could be misconstrued under the circumstances of the cultural moment.””

If that guy had invaded the home of this person, she’d be happy to see him in that position. CNN FOX NBC CNN CNBC NPR PBS ABS ETC aren’t dictators or curators of cultural relevance or importance. The presentation of this story as is invites the problem of division. As if in Humboldt County people aren’t having their mailboxes, gates, cars etc vandalized on regular basis everywhere.

Whatever the reason, it’s an act of petty vandalism, not headline worthy except to be divisive clickbait.

I’m flattered that I’m being ‘moderated’.

Willie Bray
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3 years ago

🕯🌳I’m sure somewhere there bragging about what they did and someone will overhear them. People like this can’t keep their mouths shut there to proud of what they did. 🖖🖖

Yeah, sure
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Yeah, sure
3 years ago

The Civil War wasn’t a war, is that what you’re saying?

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago

Are there any lives that don’t matter?

Juanita
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Juanita
3 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

For 400 years (and on going) black lives did not matter in this country. 3/5 of a human, in our constitution. Thousands of extra judicial lynchings for the crime of looking at or speaking to a white person. Doors & drinking fountains for “colored”.
Study history to understand why we say BLACK LIVES MATTER, and then try to get it through your brain that if you find yourself unable to say it….you are a racist.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Juanita

Yes. And you’d be correct if that was true all over the country. It was bad enough that greed solidified such words into our Constitution. But then about half of the original State made slavery illegal soon the end of the Revolutionary War. On their own, out of principle, not necessity. And subsequently spent their own blood to enforce the idea in the Civil War – admittedly when over running the natives by westward expansion but that was the cause of the tension.

You can dismiss it with the popular convenient reframing of the Civil War as a matter of States Rights. But the only serious conflict between the States and Federal Government was slavery. Nothing else rose to that level- not economy, religion, history, territory or language. Nothing else. People who died in that war did so over an issue involving people other than themselves. They did so because it was framed in terms of principle in a time where principles matters. And the principled people carried the unprincipled with them.

If you insist othrwise, it is because you are a racist.

Juanita
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Juanita
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I guess you feel comfortable ignoring the 100 years of Jim Crow following the CW, and pretending that redlining & segregation did not occur in the “enlightened” parts of this country.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Juanita

All poor people lived in the same redlined areas, Black, White, Hispanic.
Some are just desperate to be the biggest victim.

Everyone shut out of elitism has been a victim… the question is how are you going to fix it.

“content of character” …MLK
” can’t we all get along”… Rodney King

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Juanita

No actually I consider Jim Crow to be a major treachery of the US government which should have more courage of its convictions. Slavery is a horrendous evil but has been an almost universal practice of humanity since forever. Once government had fought the civil war though and officially ended it, it was petty cowardice in government to re institute de facto slavery with legislation and court order. It’s one of the major things that gives me a distrust of government as a means for social change. It as an institution can not be trusted to rise about human failures.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

When McNamara admitted that they gaffeled up Kids straight out of high school and sent them to die and have their bodies torn up in a country most of those kids had never heard of, and plastered them with agent orange (round up), all for a lie, I started paying more attention.

They didn’t give a dam what color you were.

That includes the Clintons, the Bushes, did I mention the Clintons?….The Bidens are part of the Clinton family as are the Bushes.

Geist
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Geist
3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Clinton and Trump are more closely related than Clinton and Biden.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/251943-trump-hillary-are-distant-relations-experts-say

Casey
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Casey
3 years ago
Reply to  Juanita

You might want to go back to history class and look up 1787. That does not equivalent to 400 years Juanita.

BonnieBlue
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BonnieBlue
3 years ago
Reply to  Casey

Try 1619 instead, when the first ship transporting kidnapped, enchained Africans intended to be sold into slavery, was welcomed on our shores.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  BonnieBlue

Or a slaveship wrecked on the shore and a judge made a decision on human rights of the slaves based on treating them as property like any other that had ramifications for the next 400 years. “Welcomed” is hyperbole in the extreme. It is gross rewriting for convenience to think that the American Revolution was just the same-old-same old.

THC
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THC
3 years ago
Reply to  Juanita

Juanita, actually the 3/5 rule apply to all “non freemen”. Which included White,Chinese and any other race that were held in servitude . This was to prevent large plantation owners from influencing local elections by forcing their slaves to vote the way they wanted. Also before 1776 The America colonies were controlled by the British Empire.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
3 years ago
Reply to  THC

Right on THC. Overinflation of emotions isn’t really needed.

BonnieBlue
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BonnieBlue
3 years ago
Reply to  THC

Actually, slaves were NEVER allowed to vote, since they were considered property. (FYI, indentured servitude was not the same as slavery.)

No one other than propertied white men could vote at the time of the Founding. The 3/5 rule was a compromise to Southern states allowing them a larger population count for representation in the new Federal government.

Black men did not receive the vote until well after Emancipation. For Black (and all other) women, it took a hella lot longer to “be granted” the “right” to vote by those already in power.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  BonnieBlue

The first black Americans voting was in 1870. The Emancipation Proclamation was in 1863. However the real deep seated change came in the 1960s with the Civil Rights Act.

R David Franceschi
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R David Franceschi
3 years ago

I call them Patriots. There’s no place in America for Marxism!!!

CnD
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CnD
3 years ago

“Patriots” who do not respect the Constitution and the amendments? “Patriots” engaged in censorship?
“Patriots” who do not respect the private property of others?

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
3 years ago
Reply to  CnD

“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.”

Samuel Johnson said that. He did not mean a genuine love of country, but the way it is thrown about so causally by “some”, along with “freedom” and “law and order” has made these words meaningless.

Like accusing anyone with a different opinion “marxists” or “communists”.

One could say that “but, but…people call me a fascist or a Nazi”. If one were honest with themselves one could acknowledge that the flag humping (literally) leader of the the “patriots” is definitely using the same playbook as the fascists. Allies calling for martial law because they did not like the outcome of the election. (I just listened to the released tape of Trump’s call to the Georgia SoS, threatening, cajoling him to “recalculate” and find the votes needed for him to win. From just the past day or two, long after the GA election has been recounted and certified). The “patriot-in-chief” is attacking other Republicans.

Fortunately we still have a truly patriotic judiciary (even Trump appointees) and military (that told Trump “No”.)

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago

The GOP, The Republican Party has died and is now The American Fascist Party, the AFP.
That’s one thing we can sort of thank Trump for, he cracked the thin veneer the Republicans were hiding behind and prodded them to reveal their true selves in all their Fascist glory.
Patriots? Nah, a bunch of Seditionists when it comes down to it. They think waving flags makes them Patriots, as if that hides the fact they worship a wannabe Dictator.
Strange times we live in…

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

BLM as an organization is Marxist- a self proclaimed one. Black Live Matter as a movement is not. Whether one will survive the other is not yet decided.

Geist
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Geist
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

No it isn’t. Marxism is government-by-labor-union. That has absolutely nothing to do with BLM. Where do you get this garbage?

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Geist

Shhhh, let them keep shouting that, it’s funny as hell.
First everyone were Fascists. Then they were Traitors. Then they were Commies, now their new buzz word is Marxist.

Anon
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Anon
3 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Candace Owens has entered the chat listen to her speak of the marxist manipulative root$ ($50 MILLION went where?) of BLM.

“Black Lives Matter has virtually nothing to do with black people and nothing about preserving on black lives,” she said.

“If they cared about black lives, they would focus on black communities and the number one focus would be black-on-black violence, which is a real issue in America.

“Black people have always been a conduit for the left to pursue their more nefarious goals.

“The BLM movement is really just a costume for white liberals and people who wish to see the destruction of western civilisation to wear as they destroy everything we hold dear in this nation.”

She also said the BLM movement and its allies on the left are trying to “indoctrinate” black -and-brown children to believe they are victims, regardless of their personal circumstance.

“Victim mentality is a cancer,” Ms Owens said

https://youtu.be/Al_5e6-WyIE

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago

The next couple weeks are pivotal for our Democratic Republic.

Lin Wood, the President’s attorney, literally just called for Pence to be executed for treason.

If you don’t know, I was born in Chile under Pinochet’s dictatorship.

The authoritarian-fascist slides being made right now by some Republicans are down right fucking scary for anyone with any experience.

Pence is in an amazing position. He says he will follow through with the law, his duties and the Constitution in swearing Biden in.

I’ll truly respect him after that.

Nice Marmot
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Nice Marmot
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I understand Pinochet pulled Chile out of a downward spiral into a full on socialist collapse, with only few thousand lives lost.
Is that true?
I also understand Chile is now the most prosperous nation in the region?
Is that true?

Entering a World of Pain
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Entering a World of Pain
3 years ago
Reply to  Nice Marmot

Cool handle

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Nice Marmot

Salvador Allende’s policies are what has prospered Chile so well.

He nationalized our Copper mines, among many other things, which have been a windfall of monies.

Pinochet did not reverse that policy, he simply craved the power and enjoyed control over Chile for 19 years while the US’ CIA was glad to have a popular ‘democratic socialist’ politician 6 feet under.

The fact is, Salvador Allende was elected, and then reelected, and that is Democracy.

Fucking with that and holding power for 19 years was authoritarianism.

Trump is dangerous to democracy, and anyone who has seen democracy die knows it.

Analog Dreams
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Analog Dreams
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Some people truly don’t know about the 3 branches of government,

Stop conflating your personal insecurities with the strength of a Constitutional Republic overrun by political money hungry traitors.

If you pride yourself on research, learn yourself a bit more about blatant election fraud.

This isn’t about Democrat or Republican, this is absolutely the problem with being blinded by ideology.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Analog Dreams

You’re obfuscating my point and history completely.

But at least we know your new handle.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
3 years ago
Reply to  Analog Dreams

Good thing you mentioned CIA. Wouldn’t have happened without ’em.

Doesn’t it make you at least a little leery of Gov?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Analog Dreams

FYI

Chile works on a 3 branch system identical to the US.

Are you pro fascist?

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Stop ending every post with a personal insult. Or at least what you mean as personal insult which is usually only your own deliberate misinterpretation. The only point of that is to keep conflict going to feed a psuedo life.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

It’s a question.

And many are, admittantly.

Though this particular commentor probably doesn’t have the cajones to be honest.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

It’s an honest question, and pertinent.

Many admittantly are fascist, including the would-be-kidnappers of the Michigan Governor.

I encourage you to read the President’s lawyer Lin Woods twitter, and then tell me I’m a problem.

https://mobile.twitter.com/LLinWood?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Ben Round
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Ben Round
3 years ago

Then I guess there is also no place for freedom of speech, right David?

so sad
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so sad
3 years ago

If only the message was directed at black people. Black men murder one another at rates over a thousand fold that of police.

Clearly white lives don’t matter as much. There were 3 videos of white people being murdered by police right before GF was murdered. No one seemed to care.

Once an interaction has begun with police, a white man has the same odds of being murdered as a black man, but black men have more interactions per capita.

If only we acted as if all lives matter equally, the message against police violence could have been a unifying one.

It is a shame that people would vandalize the sign. The message may be ignorant and divisive but it is clearly well intended.

Thesteve4761
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Thesteve4761
3 years ago

Susy Barsotti, THANK YOU!!!

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

Ok.. who’s the Laytonville hillbilly who did this?? Come on out and expose yourself coward!

Please don’t...
Guest
Please don’t...
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Please don’t expose
Yourself…there’s enough problems going on around here to have Gay trump loving rednecks here flipping their wieners out just for fun

Jane Smith
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Jane Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Please do not encourage people to expose themselves, it’s illegal and gross.😆

Sharon Paltin, M.D.
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Sharon Paltin, M.D.
3 years ago

My friend wisely quotes “I do not have to be the delivery system for other people’s karma”. The person’s racist acts will bring their own bad karma on their eternal soul, and there’s not much I can do to help them if they really don’t think Black Lives Matter.
My community members and coworkers of color are treasured by me, and I will continue to work toward their safety and equality in treatment and opportunity.
Oh, and we’re taking back the Hawaiian shirts.
Aloha, Sharon Paltin, M.D.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

If no one is illegal than citizens don’t exist.

Geist
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Geist
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

People are not defined by a misdemeanor they committed one time.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Geist

Ohhh… Tell that to a person who killed someone after their third DUI accident. Illegal is just one adjective among many but not an unimportant one.

Geist
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Geist
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

So you call anyone who’s ever committed any crime an “illegal?”

Entering a World of Pain
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Entering a World of Pain
3 years ago

I guess cultural appropriation by white people who want to “take back the Hawaiian shirts” & say Aloha don’t count as racism. Awwwwww hipocrisy

4Trinity
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4Trinity
3 years ago

Yep. What is the racial history of Hawaii? (not to mention the present day)

Entering a World of Pain
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Entering a World of Pain
3 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

I’m not an expert but I know they hate white people (justifiably so) and locals probly despise people who lived in “the islands” for a couple years and then go around incessantly saying aloha & Mahalo forever

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

Resentful people resent almost everything. Others tend to step around the crap and go on with life. Anyone who thinks that they are obligated to restore the original status of those harmed by their ancestors should do what they can themselves before being taken seriously when they shovel guilt on others. If you are generically pure, move back to the place of origin in reparation. (And good luck with the current occupants being ok with that.) If you’re not, well you’re SOL.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago

What can you expect from a doctor that prescribes the Hula for severely pinched nerves , an charges you for it too.

My guess, Hawaii won’t let her practice on people there.

laytoner
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laytoner
3 years ago

I am glad that someone was able to take this sign down.
Black Lives Matter is a marxsist socialist racist organization.
They hate white people and blame them for all of there own problems.
I support the efforts of anyone in the community to tear down this symbol of hate.
Black Lives Matter is a hate group.

Anyone putting up symbols of hatred towards whites and other members of the community should have there signs destroyed this is no different than if they put up a KKK banner.

Laytonville is a white community, why would they want an anti-white hate symbol displayed in there community?

Sleepy Alligator
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Sleepy Alligator
3 years ago
Reply to  laytoner

If you truly support trespassing and destruction of private property then post your address here. You should have no problem with your fellow “white community” members coming by to do as they please.

Jane Smith
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Jane Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  laytoner

I’m guessing that “laytoner” is the vandal…

thetallone
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thetallone
3 years ago
Reply to  laytoner

Laytonville is a white community? Why is that? Oh yeah, they killed the Native Americans and took it.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
3 years ago
Reply to  thetallone

So what color are we talking about now? (more dividing)

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

black lives matter is a covid super-spreader terrorist organization that burns, loots, defaces, and destroys american cities! why the surprise when a sign is destroyed?

gondwanna
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gondwanna
3 years ago

On the next sign hollow the post out and fill it with black steel pipe or rebar. That’ll fix the saw.

Crimestopper2
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Crimestopper2
3 years ago
Reply to  gondwanna

that’s racist! There’s white pipe and white rebar and even GREEN rebar and pipe.. So why are you using BLACK pipe???????
Good ole boys know how to use a cutting torch too so go ahead and make your divisive hateful statement of support for a terrorist group.
This sign was put up to PISS off conservatives and REAL Americans. Liberalism and socialism and racial equality and all the other idiotic ideals pushed by the leftists are NOT accepted by 74 million voters. Keep the damm sign down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Crimestopper3
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Crimestopper3
3 years ago
Reply to  Crimestopper2

Because black pipe is a name for a type of steel construction pipe, strong – used for natural gas, and cheap.

More voters voted against your cult leaders.

THC
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THC
3 years ago
Reply to  Crimestopper3

Actually it’s not called “black” pipe, it’s called cast iron pipe. And it comes in galvanized or ungalvanized…

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  THC

There is Black pipe used for gas lines.
Most pipe fitting are male and female also as any pot grower knows.
Cast iron is used for drainage.

avenuerider
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3 years ago
Reply to  Crimestopper2

Thank you for telling the truth! Not everyone supports the Marxist destruction of our Country. How can they say that this sign belongs to the Layonville community is a communist lie!!!

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  avenuerider

Marxist Commies, that’s a new one….

Juanita
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Juanita
3 years ago

For 400 years (and on going) black lives did not matter in this country. 3/5 of a human, in our constitution. Thousands of extra judicial lynchings for the crime of looking at or speaking to a white person. Doors & drinking fountains for “colored”.
Study history to understand why we say BLACK LIVES MATTER, and then try to get it through your brain that if you find yourself unable to say it….you are a racist.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Juanita

Get it through your head that is a fact that will never change- it’s history. So, since that will always be history, can it never be overcome? Are we always to defined as having once failed and can never, ever be released from the stigma? If that is your thinking, then our doom was sent in stone over 300 years ago. No use talking. Just fight it out forever.

Do you understand that slaves were counted as 3/5 of a human as an anti-slavery victory? That the slave owning states wanted to count them as a full person because in the Constitutional rules of representation in Congress would these states power to vote down the interfering anti slavery states? And that was resisted by the anti slavery states to keep from being made powerless? It was not some sort of mystical statement of human worth. That such a compromise existed was caused by the conflict between greed in having unfree servants to do the dirty work and still demanding the rights of freedom for themselves. Slavery used to be seen as a natural result of losing a war. It was based on political tribal identity, not race. But, because of unwillingness to stand by a principle of equality, it became a convenient fiction that white people could be free while still using unfree labor of other races. The exact same greed that causes the US to not enforce it’s immigration rules now as a contact to just about every other country in the world. The US has the most diverse demograhics and the most complaint about its lack of diversity. We are a very greedy, wanting culture.

Xingu
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Xingu
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

If you cannot say BLACK LIVES MATTER, you are still a racist ☺

BonnieBlue
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BonnieBlue
3 years ago
Reply to  Xingu

A simple Truth, that. Thank you.

avenuerider
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3 years ago
Reply to  Xingu

All Lives Matter!!!

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  avenuerider

Back to square one with you guys every day. It is explained in great detail WHY the BLM phrase exists in great detail and at the end you still blurt out All Lives Matter.
Why? We all know why. Sad.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Yes, it is irritating like debating a liberal who says stupid things like “If you cannot say BLACK LIVES MATTER, you are still a racist.” If you can’t say “All lives matter” you too may be a racist. Like the ad says, you can’t say all lives matter unless black lives matter. Frankly it could easily be concisely said and all squirming around eliminated by being truthful and saying “only My life matters” and the hell with the rest of you.

thetallone
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thetallone
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Saying “all lives matter” after someone says “black lives matter” is like if someone said their mother just died, and you say, ‘yeah, well everybody dies’. It’s true but it misses the point entirely, and reveals a total lack of empathy.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  thetallone

If you Mother dies you don’t shout it at people for over a year and expect everyone to stop living and focus exclusively on your mother or else they don’t have empathy , especially during a pandemic and a contentious election.

It also wouldn’t give you the right to burn down and loot other peoples property or kill other peoples mothers.

thetallone
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thetallone
3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

The BLM movement will continue as long as police violence against blacks keeps happening. The election is over, someday the pandemic will be, too. Let’s hope the problem of police emptying their clips into unarmed people (of any color) can end.
I agree that arson and looting, etc are not an appropriate response, and 99 percent of those in search of justice do not do those things.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  thetallone

A curious thing isn’t it that you get to choose other people’s meaning for them… But then that’s the problem with signs put up along roads- whether it’s “Christ Saves!” Or “Black Lives Matter!’ It assumes that someone thinks you have no option but either being saved as advertised or not being saved if you don’t agree. Or that the choice is either Black Lives Matter or that Black Lives Don’t Matter, to use a phrase from a prior post. When in reality being told what to think in either case is an impertinance by the sign maker who shouldn’t be surprised when told so.

thetallone
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thetallone
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

That’s ridiculous. The sign maker is expressing their own sentiment, not telling someone else what to think.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
3 years ago
Reply to  avenuerider

I’m still utterly confused as to how that saying is “racist” avenue rider.

Maybe someday I’ll understand. 😏

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Juanita

Jaunita…so moving out of history and into the here and now, Now what?
Just how do you see the future? Beyond a sign in Laytonville?

burblestein
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burblestein
3 years ago

To the moron with the chain saw:

You have just ensured the Hog Farm folks got a much wider audience for the message you wanted to suppress. Satisfied, dummy?

Meanwhile, I have to stifle my perverse desire to applaud you for your unforeseen result. And I suggest a metal replacement sign.

Tim Jordan
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Tim Jordan
3 years ago

I would say the sign has done its job, and provoked thought and conversation on this very polarizing subject. Thanks to the Black Oak Ranch and Hog Farmers for continuing to be relevant

avenuerider
Guest
3 years ago

Maby it’s hard to believe but not all locals support black lives matter!!! They are a communist organization that has nothing to do with black lives. Also what does that have to do with a tied up ripoff??? Do you think someone is trying to get even?

Yeah,sure
Guest
Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  avenuerider

What makes it a “Communist” organization?

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Using the elaborate rationalizing of PolitiFact, while the three founders of the organization refer to themselves as trained Marxists, since every member of the organization don’t follow the same thinking, BLM can not be considered a Marxist (ie communist) organization.

But that is a slippery slope because then people who object to BLM as an organization would, by similar reasoning coukd not all be considered racist. And that would mean that some many the liberals commenting here would have to stop calling everyone racist just because. Gasp! The horror! They might even have to ask some questions before reverting to labelling everyone “racist.” Thinking before offering insult might even be required. And the strain would be too much.

Sleepy Alligator
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Sleepy Alligator
3 years ago

And the locals you speak of have the right to put a sign up on their property that says “I do not support Black Lives Matter” just the same as anyone else has the right to put up a sign showing their support.

Juanita
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Juanita
3 years ago

I think that guy would want his sign to say BLACK LIVES DON’T MATTER

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Juanita

That is just how you interpret “all lives matter” any way so the battle rages on just the same. It could be like the old Burma Shave signs- a first statement followed by five subsequent signs giving the punchline. “All Lives Matter” then “Doesn’t Mean ” then “Black Lives Don’t but” then “I Just Don’t Want” then “To Be Excluded” then “From Mattering.”

Jade
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Jade
3 years ago

I am disappointed that you chose to republish the picture of the bound Black man with this article. That image calls up the 400 years of slavery, the binding of Black people and selling them at auction, the origins of policing in the slave patrols of the 1840’s and 1850’s. Never mind that this single individual was the perpetrator of a serious crime, tangentially related in time with this vandalism, images like that can be hugely traumatizing to Black people today and should not be used simply to augment a story.

Kym Kemp
Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  Jade

I think showing a factual image that is talked about in an article, helps readers understand the context.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Baloney. You dragged it out as emotional demagoguery. The point of the sign was advertising to counter a personal feeling that the image was misconstrued as racist, so you wanted to reinforce the idea by reproducing the image? That makes no sense at all. Frankly de escalation plays zero part of any of this. It’s a shouting match of emotionalism.

Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym, the words that described it was enough. No image needed

Farce
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Farce
3 years ago
Reply to  Jade

I see it differently. I think anybody of any color who did what that fellow did deserves to be hogtied. Hogtied because that’s how you keep a dangerous criminal until the cops pick him up! No other reason, no skin color involved. What I’m talking about is post-racist reasoning. Skin color should have zero bearing on how that episode was handled…..
Now the sign- I didn’t care either way. But it seemed good for the spot usually announcing Kate Wolf fest or Earth dance or the Women’s Herbal Symposium. Them Hog Farm folks are good people. I drove past it w my friend last week and he liked it. He’s half-black, looks full and he gets a little worried in these rural areas just because ya never know about people and such. So it made him feel better. So…then I liked it too….Funny thing is whoever cut it down has now caused more discussion than ever and it’s not gonna go their way. Politics aside we all know the history and even present discrimination against decent black people and we work to correct it. Just like we fought against bad weed laws. Maybe more so! Love beats hate and we are moving forward….

THC
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THC
3 years ago
Reply to  Jade

That man was not hogtied because he was black or a Slave. He was hogtied because he had just committed a home invasion, where he proceeded to pistol-whip a woman that he had bound in her own home.. By all means the people that hogtied should have simply shot him. Yhey showed enormous restraint by restraining him until authorities could arrive to deal with him legally.

Casey
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Casey
3 years ago

I’m curious to what will happen when they find a black truck driver with a pound if weed with a chainsaw in Richardson Grove.

Joseph Doakes
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Joseph Doakes
3 years ago

Let`s put up a sign that says “White Lives Matter”. After all, fair is fair isn`t it?

BonnieBlue
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BonnieBlue
3 years ago
Reply to  Joseph Doakes

Why bother? “White” lives have mattered more than any others since the first European colonizers stepped foot on this continent.

Casey
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Casey
3 years ago

I’m curious to what will happen when they find a black truck driver with a pound of weed with a chainsaw in Richardson Grove.

local observer
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local observer
3 years ago

next time set up a few cameras. stupid people do stupid shit and seem to repeat it.

Eat it up sheeple!
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Eat it up sheeple!
3 years ago

GOOD!!! I guess I’m not the only one fed up w this hollow racist bs distraction! We are facing a third strike from US based ww1 & ww2 Nazis as they make everyone focus on COVID & racism while they get into position in OUR communities and blind us w bullish!t making us turn on each other. The take over will be easy for them! Color won’t matter when we’re ALL in camps, idiots! We will never be united to fight the REAL threat! It makes me sick! Y’all deserve what’s coming!

4Trinity
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4Trinity
3 years ago

Right to the point Eat it Up.

This is an age of “divide and conquer” folks. And we’re being played.

Btw, BLM…follow the money. Not a bad concept but what is the AGENDA? Where do they get their millions$? And WHY?

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago

Everyone has the right to put a sign on their own property.

Everyone also has the right not to put up a sign on their property.

Just because you have the right doesn’t make it the intelligent thing to do.

Maybe a healing, joyful sign would be better, everyone seems to be stressed out enough already, how about…. Joy and goodwill to all.

Guest
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3 years ago

The racism in the comments is appalling.
Kym, I don’t think it was necessary to post the picture of the hog tied man. Just the image sends a message that can be taken out of context from actual reasons for this happening. Just my opinion….

4Trinity
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4Trinity
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Yeah, yeah Guest, you mentioned the photo……

I must be “racist” too since I’m not seeing any racism in the comments.

Oh blind, racist me.

Anon
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Anon
3 years ago

Why is there outrage over a broken billboard anyway?

Isn’t this where BLM set the bar?

If they are keen to destroy an entire downtown district in Mpls to convey their message, then folks need to expect push back to any support of the sort of violence, and the mindless rioting and noise that has come to represent by BLM movement.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Anon

And what of the White Nationalists tearing shit up to make BLM look bad that were caught in the act. Quite a few of them in fact. Starting fires, shooting guns , breaking windows and looting. Would you care to discuss that?
Of course you wouldn’t.

Anon
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Anon
3 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Sure i will. But really, Umbrella guy? I’m sorry but I’m pretty sure one guy doesn’t have that much power. Use your brain. The event was thoroughly documented. A mob and the participants in it still have free will. Choices were made. And everyone saw who was there. Very nice part of downtown by the way. And longtime black owned businesses were destroyed too. Absolutely senseless.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Anon

It wasnt just one guy and you know it. C’mon.
And you don’t care to explain WHY White Nationalists would be compelled to do such a thing?

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

How do you know it wasn’t someone who just hates all the signs along the highway? There was an article here about that just a few days ago?

White Nationalists seem to run around in your head much more than they do in Laytonville.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

And Booth didn’t shoot Lincoln because of Lincoln’s actions on slavery?. He shot Lincoln because he wore funny hats?

4Thanksgiving
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4Thanksgiving
3 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Not really absolutely senseless when you follow the money and agenda.

Based on some of the comments here, brilliant perhaps in a very crooked way.

avenuerider
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3 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Amen!

Patriots
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Patriots
3 years ago

What’s the big deal. The Marxist blm burn cities, rob and assault, and you fools make such a big deal? Bull shit.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Patriots

Same comment to you as to Anon. Let’s hear it. Did you forget about the White Nationalists that were arrested looting , shooting, starting fires and tearing shot up to make BLM look bad?
You people have selective memories.
And your rusty , dusty White Nationalist talking points have all been repeated in this thread by “various” (hahahaha) commenters now . Black on Black Crime. All Lives Matter. Even Black Abortions. Congratulations, hope you feel better now.

Casey
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Casey
3 years ago

Thank you Kym for bringing this to the forefront.

Namaste Athome
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Namaste Athome
3 years ago

This article is trash and so is the other one about sheriff Kendall’s lunatic agenda. You are literally creating a thunder dome for bigotry with these kinds of articles. Kym, you know what the comment section will look like when you publish articles on racial tension. Why give this opportunity for racism and hate a platform? In the name of journalism? This is garbage and all of the bigots that spew their racist vitriol on here are total trash also.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  Namaste Athome

I thought the job of reporters was to write about controversial subjects factually. Of course, some folks are jerks but not talking about a problem doesn’t make it better.

Guest
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3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Why do keep saying stuff like that? The subject was the sign being cut down. And previously vandalized. Those are facts. The whole rest of the article was interpretation, innuendo and kvetching. You and Barsotti formed an opinion that the sign was vandalized because some community members interpreted it as a criticism of themselves for remarks on the race of the thief or maybe as support for the thief himself. Which is a construct, not a fact. Did the vandals leave a note explaining themselves? Do you know they even know about the thief and his race? Inteepeting even the color of the vandal’s paint!?! If not, then the why is not based on fact but interpretation. This should have been a letter to the editor because fact were far less than important in the whole thing. I’m not saying you don’t have a right to your (and Barsotti’s) opinion but don’t call it factual reporting. That raises serious question about what you see is a fact.

Maybe the idea that both those who claim to be anti-racist and those claiming to dislike the anti-racist message say the article is race baiting in nature would make it less likely to be justified as news?

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
3 years ago

Ha ha ha, the hippies cut down and sabotaged billboards for years, now they’re upset at some copy cats!

“Never doubt that a small group of concerned citizens can change the world, indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has..”

Misanthrope
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Misanthrope
3 years ago

So, Bureau of Land Management employees are finally gettin’ sick o’ this BLM garbage.

Good on ’em.

Sick of drugged out hypocrisy
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Sick of drugged out hypocrisy
3 years ago

Umm, excuse me??? I have lived in this town for eight generations and I have seen it go from paradise to a nightmare. Black Oak ranch gets sold to a bunch of hippies in the early 80’s and every since then we are subjected to drugged out concerts and events that do not benefit the community in any way other then some money for local businesses which also comes with more thefts, more waste or poop and pee and needles. Dirty baby diapers, homelessness vagrants and the only people benefits are the Barsotti. The whole Hog Farm doesn’t care about anything but lining their pockets and ruing family values. Anytime I have see Susi at any hog farm festive she has been totally dressed crazy and on drugs. They don’t even help the children who grew up on the hog farm. Some are great ppl and others are completely nutcases and think the world owes them something. Its really funny to me that when certain people want to jump on communist bandwagons and throw fits that Black Lives Matter so much but I have never see any checks or money giving to fund black youth or promote prison reform. Its obviously much easier to just build a sign right. Give me a break already and go back to what you do best……..bitching, complaining and drug festivals. Its long past due for all of this BLM crap to be over with BLM is actually racist. I am glad the sign is gone and I wish and pray the Barsotti’s leave as well. Good riddance to you all and your drug scene. Go ruin someone else’s town.

Sleepy Alligator
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Sleepy Alligator
3 years ago

Wow! Speaking of “bitching and complaining”. You must really brighten up the room when you walk in. Happy New Year!

VMG
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VMG
3 years ago

Well, I think nobody really matters… We are rather self-important, and, life, it remains pretty cheap and easy-to-get…

I also think that the folks there at Black Oak Ranch specialize in stirring up controversy, poking the world with a stick, and Wavy, he would have said something wry and faintly amusing, as usual…

I hope the ranch continues to function, and that the current push to attract attention and to provide copy and content is successful…

The Hog Farm proves once again, that it’s great to be in the public eye, and, it’s nice to have successful friends…

Woodstock ’69 was an example of how to set an example, but the mess folks left when they fled was a pretty good indicator of the actual condition of American Culture, and the focus on the self over the whole. Obviously, we haven’t improved, as a group, and I hope people will learn to get along some day… And, I wonder if the Hog Farmers could have cut down their own sign, to stir up a little action…

4Trinity
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4Trinity
3 years ago
Reply to  VMG

“No Lives Matter” I like it VMG. Kinda zen-ish, non emotionally-invested, take-a-step-back approach.

And to the Ptb, reality.

VMG
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VMG
3 years ago
Reply to  4Trinity

Honestly, humans are WAY less than important… They make a big mess, they will leave this planet an empty stone, and, they spend an inordinate amount of time fussing, about every-goddamn-thing…

You got your dope, you got your pickup, you got Trump out of office, and, you got PUA AND, two stimulus checks, so, STFU already about who matters…

People spend too much time wailing about isms and unfairness! Nobody is going to give you anything, you have to go out and get it for yourself… There are many accidents, like being born in Nigeria or India – OOPS! Work it out for yourself, and, Namaste!

If you are good enough and work hard enough, you too can be “equal”…

Remember, the Socialists want your wealth confiscated upon your death, so your heirs will not have “income inequality”…

Now, there, is something else to fuss about….

Sleepy Alligator
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Sleepy Alligator
3 years ago

Wow! Speaking of “fussing,about every-goddamn-thing”.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago

The title is War on words…

What about these words

Joseph Stalin Quotes
https://www.azquotes.com/author/13993-Joseph_Stalin

or

59 Terrifying Facts about Joseph Stalin
https://www.factretriever.com/joseph-stalin-facts

it can’t happen here….really?

I see white slavery in these words, many people of many colors have been slaves.

Lets look at …..

Mark compares the new “Democrat manifesto to Josef Stalin’s 1936 Soviet constitution.

https://commonsensepost.com/2020/11/02/the-biden-harris-sanders-manifesto-compared-with-stalins-1936-soviet-constitution/

Truth is Truth whether you like the messenger or not.

I expect most will ignore it… to their own and their children’s peril.

Why do you think Bernie was stopped twice by the Dems from being POTUS. I really would like Dems to answer.

Geist
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Geist
3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Ummm, plenty of quotes from Stalin, no quotes from Bernie Sanders or Kamala Harris. Neither of them ever endorsed “right to work” laws, Republicans did.
https://www.governing.com/archive/gov-states-right-to-work-laws-unions.html

Rights to “rest and lesisure” are tantimount to the persuit of happiness, which is enshrined in the US constitution. Every single 1st-world country features free, compulsory education. So what exactly are you trying to get terrified about here?

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago

“Our new Soviet constitution will, in my opinion, be the most democratic constitution of all those existing in the world.”
– Joseph Stalin,
http://www.unz.org, added Feb 15, 2017

https://www.azquotes.com/author/13993-Joseph_Stalin

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago

Why did the Democrats cheat Bernie Twice?
I really want your opinion.

How can you ignore this?

Joe Biden bragging about quid pro quo in Ukraine to protect his son from corruption investigation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=_21y_hPXd_k

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

How can you ignore this?

Just because you asked, and because it’s likely the same for many others, the answer is:

BECAUSE YOU POSTED IT.

And you have the less credibility here than David Icky.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Geist
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Geist
3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Your boy Trump just got caught soliciting the Republican GA governer to manufacture the exact number enough votes to flip the state in his favor. Where’s your evidence of voter fraud on the democrat side? Every “witness” in trump’s dozens of lawsuits dummies up once they were put under oath.

Analog Dreams
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Analog Dreams
3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Looks like you be getting circled jerked.