48 New Cases Reported Since Friday– Over a Third of the COVID Cases in Humboldt County Occurred in November Alone
Press release from Humboldt County COVID19 – Joint Information Center:
Forty-eight additional cases of COVID-19 have been reported since Friday. A total of 898 county residents have tested positive for the virus since the pandemic began, with more than 300 cases reported in November alone.
Residents who participated in high-risk activities over the holidays are urged to take precautions to prevent exposing others to COVID-19. Gathering with non-household members, even seemingly healthy friends and loved ones, can be considered high risk, said Humboldt County Health Officer Dr. Teresa Frankovich. She added that most travel also increases risk, especially if prevention measures are not followed.
“Whether you gathered indoors here at home or somewhere outside of Humboldt County, the safest option is to act as if you may have been exposed to someone with COVID-19,” Dr. Frankovich said. “That means you should monitor yourself and your family members carefully for symptoms. If symptoms develop, please get tested and isolate at home until you receive a negative test result.”
For information about travel precautions, go to humboldtgov.org/DocumentCenter/View/90805.
The California Department of Public Health announced over the weekend that Humboldt County remains in the “purple” or widespread tier under the state’s “Blueprint for a Safer Economy.” The adjusted case rate and positivity rate are 7.7 and 2.8% respectively. Read more at covid19.ca.gov/safer-economy.
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92 recoveries also.
No new deaths
https://health.ucdavis.edu/coronavirus/covid-19-information/covid-19-long-haulers.html
“Long haulers”. A friend has suffered heart damage, most likely very long term, at best.
It isn’t just death or just a light case and full recovery. Some folks ignore that and just brush it away because nobody died!!! (well, except for the nearly 300,000 who have died.)
Before anyone brings up “But Sweden!”
About that:
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ny-sweden-doctor-coronavirus-second-wave-sidelines-20201128-fmmqxn4rhzfiffeqnphxmahz4m-story.html
Vaccinations next week in England, better get a plane ticket before you give yourself an ulcer. It will be alright ,its just life. Panic on.
I am not panicking. But I will point out when the information is false or ripped out of context.
Truth be told, I find the people who post disinformation and denialism are the ones in a panic. They keep having to tell themselves, and everyone else, over and over and over, that it is no big deal.
But the “no deaths” really does irk me, because like I said it isn’t death or full recovery and nothing in between. Everything from months of exhaustion to lung transplants has happened to people who have suffered covid. Though no longer infected, the long term damage is very real.
In some ways covid may be like polio. Nearly 3/4s of the people who had polio were asymptomatic.
Like aasymptomatic intelligence?
Trying to get some of the rural reactionaries on this site to empathize with, or even understand, people in different circumstances from theirs is like expecting a dog to sit at a table and eat with a knife and fork.
But they’ll sure tell those people everything they’re doing wrong from their perch in Fortuna or that dirt road off 36…
I only know around 20 people that have had covid, one of them died and one is in ICU currently, the other 18 recovered with no long term damage or months of exhaustion. The person that died was in very bad shape before covid due to several severe strokes in the last few years . The person currently in ICU only had use of one lung due to smoking his whole life ,both in their 80s. The seasonal flu would have taken its toll on these 2 people. Its just life, like it or not.
“…the other 18 recovered with no long term damage or months of exhaustion.”
That’s your professional opinion? Did Free Estimates lend you those articles he didn’t read?
Almost 270,000 Americans dead.
Shouldn’t patriotism require you to care about those dead, our fellow citizens? Instead of dismissing it as “just life”?
You talk down to those who represent the rural folKS around here. It sounds like you think highly of yourself. What you do in your home is no business to others, but some people wouldn’t be very nice if they felt you were insulting them. I hope you don’t talk like to strangers.
Rural “reactionaries,” my friend.
That’s the operative word. Not so much “rural.”
The toxic politics of rural reactionaries affect me, as well as every other American, because the man they put in the highest office has damaged this country more severely than anyone who has held that office in our lifetimes.
Rural reactionaries aren’t nice period. And that’s why people are fed up with the way they’ve set this country back.
Chiming in with another medical opinion, Dr. Quinn? Maybe you can tell how terrible it is to my father who just got over it. Seventy years old and overweight. Got a bad cough for about a week. That’s it. My mother didn’t catch it at all. She’s waiting on blood work to see if she has antibodies or not.
They both wore masks everywhere and drench everything in hand sanitizer. They are overly cautious because they shop for and help partially take care of my grandmother who is 93. She also doesn’t have it.
The lasting damage cases you speak of are statiscal outliers. Not commonplace; just like deaths. Again, every claim you have made has had zero evidence and you attack others because you can’t prove your point with facts. Enjoy that delusion!
How would I know?Not my professional, that is their doctors professional opinion, because they all had doctors. And yes, no matter what happens while we are alive is infact just life, sounds like someone might have a big cause of denial. Death is a part of life, some accept it, and others deny it to the end.
We are trump supporters. We wear masks, use sanitizers, social distance. There were just two of us for Thanksgiving. We limit our trips to town. We respect our elders, and get tested. While Trump has been president, we have seen our income taxes go down by $6,000 a year. Lower fuel prices, and we do not rely on other countries for it. 9 million new jobs, and over a thousand employment opportunity centers to help the poor areas in cities run by democrats. Over a billion dollars to Black universities. With Trump’s operation warp speed, vaccines are coming out now, this would not have happened under Hitlery, or Biden. Not a chance. None of these things with Obama and #not my president Biden. Relative peace in the Middle East, Arabs and Jews talking to each other, trading with each other. More school choice and support under Trump. Perhaps you are referring to toxic politics in the way people are allowed to be of individual thought. Businesses are allowed to display a sign that says We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. So if someone does not want to provide a service to someone because of their religious beliefs, they do not have to. Or if someone does not like Chic Fil A putting religious things on their food wrappers? Or a cake maker in Oregon? Or how about a team prayer before or after a game? We have those rights. We are allowed, not by toxic action, but by the Constitution, to be free in our thoughts, actions. In China, the ones who spread this virous around the world and try to destroy our way of life, try to Speak against the govt. there, and you will be punished. Forced labor camps for those who need reeducation in thoughts. Muslim Uyigurs being forced to give organs to the Chinese elite. Blacks persecuted. Christians persecuted. Now that is toxic. The Chinese have to conform, or face prison and death. They have no freedom, because the general population have no guns. No guns, no freedom. No guns is toxic. No freedom is toxic. Cities are toxic. City reactionaries are toxic, just ask Ghengis Khan, a destroyer of city elites, and their way of life. Our hero.
Who needs enemies when you got friends like Lone Ranger?
1911 also.
His whole family was exposed.
I’m sure denialism and ignorance had nothing to do with catching it and spreading it.
Its ‘just life’.
No, it’s just stupid.
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Wow. I thought it couldn’t get any worse, and yet here we are.
Someone mentions Trump and look who shows up. Good morning TRB , hope you have a nice day.
You too.
He personally knows 20 people that have had COVID. Hmmmmmmmmm. I’m old, I know a shit load of people and people those people know. I have many siblings and extended family. No one out of all those people have got it yet. ONE person tat I know their son got in but lives back east. I seriously doubt anyone that comments here knows “20” people that got COVID. I’m not denying that people get it .
Makes you go hmmmmm.
“I’m sure denialism and ignorance had nothing to do with catching it and spreading”
I think there’s probably some truth to this.
On the other hand, there is no reason to take anything this crowd says at face value.
It’s such a weird stroke of fate that the very people who have denied the existence, lethality, and significance of the virus this entire time happen to know scores of people who contracted it and rapidly recovered. And those people were 100 lbs overweight, with one functioning lung, living with multiple cancers, and chain-smoked their whole lives. All of them.
You like dogging on my family Brian? Upset my mother only got a runny nose instead of succumbing to it like you wished? Oh poor little brian, can’t get me off his mind. Yeah we were exposed by an employee of a well company who came out to work on my mother’s well. So much ignorance and denialism bro. Maybe people who die from it are in piss poor shape and should’ve taken better care of themselves. Maybe they are already on their way out. Sorry my entire family’s experience runs contrary to your belief, its not that bad though. My freedom unfortunately doesn’t end where your fear begins. Go hide we don’t need you in the public space, should try disconnecting your fear a little bit. The spade I’m renting in your head for free is nice! Oh this will trigger you, #stopthesteal!
You say my family was exposed like its a bad thing, we are happy we no longer have to abide by any of the stupid protocols that the fear-mongering idiots feel the need to shame people over. Go cry lib! Your tears taste so sweet! There are only two political parties left in the United States, Patriots and Traitors. [edit]
1911,
I am not digging on your family and I’m glad you and your family are ok.
Seriously.
The point I’m making is that you have no choice if you have mild or severe symptoms.
It’s pure luck you’re all ok.
You opened up your chances of infection by not taking it seriously.
If you had a real job, you’d be out 2 weeks.
Same for family.
Those are the mild repercussions.
Again, health was luck.
Now Trinity business are more restricted.
All folks had to do was respect it.
Sorry, I mean no disrespect yo your family dude, but the point is a fair one to make.
Trump also could have not given it to his whole family.
Herman Cain also could be doing better.
That’s all.
Research this:CDC REVISED THEIR NUMBERS DOWN TO AROUND 20K. WHY ARE SO MANY PEOPLE REFUSING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE TRUTH???
That isn’t true. Here’s this morning’s numbers of those dead of COVID.
“”Swedish industry continues to show robust growth at the same time as production plans have become more expansive despite an increased spread of infection and stricter restrictions,” Jörgen Kennemar, a PMI analyst at Swedbank, said.”
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/interestrates/sweden-manufacturing-growth-fastest-since-2017-1029851870
“Despite Victoria’s second wave of infection, Australia’s economic recovery from the coronavirus is underway. The bitter aftermath includes high and rising unemployment, vastly increased government debt, and a markedly less congenial global economy.” https://www.lowyinstitute.org/publications/costs-covid-australia-economic-prospects-wounded-world
For some countries will be worse than the disease. For others not so much. But don’t be oblivious that there aren’t large costs in lckdowns.
Zero individuals in Humboldt in the hospital with Covid currently. This is obviously a good thing.
https://lostcoastoutpost.com/covid-report/2020/nov/30/
I think I heard on Redwood News that hospitalizations have not been updated. They reported “Health officials are monitoring 124 active cases. Five new hospitalizations have also been reported. ” https://kiem-tv.com/2020/11/30/48-new-covid-19-cases-reported-in-humboldt-county-since-friday/
The state shows 5 current hospitalizations for Humboldt.
The link I posted has been updated to show the 5 hospitalizations.
Best wishes to all, sick or well.
Sorry yesterday it showed 5. Today they are showing 4. https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/
Are they new hospitalizations?
They don’t give information on when the people enter the hospital. All I know is that the State currently reports Humboldt as having four people hospitalized with COVID.
Thank God the Biden vaccine will arrive January 21st.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2020/11/osha-let-employers-decide-whether-to-report-health-care-worker-deaths-many-didnt.html
Employers are not obligated to report the death of their workers from Covid contracted in the workplace (you know, like those grocery store clerks, nurses, bus drivers, teachers…) claiming dead employees caught it anywhere other than the workplace.
And your point is?
I almost thought it said 48 new ballots reported.
PTSD!!!!!
Furies,
That was in the first action congress took. liability protection for employers .So if you get sic or die from getting infected at work even Working in hospital it’s a frivolous lawsuit 😂.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-congress/u-s-republicans-push-for-coronavirus-lawsuit-immunity-for-business-idUSKBN22D5MG
“Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell and House of Representatives Republican leader Kevin McCarthy issued a joint statement redoubling their demands that “Americans on the front lines of this fight must receive strong protections from frivolous lawsuits.”
How would you like it if your employer sued you for bringing covid-19 into the work place and spreading it to your co-workers?
But health insurance provides are required to cover covid-19 care and the Feds cover it for the uninsured. But not everyone is aware of that. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/10/22/925942412/hospital-bills-for-uninsured-covid-19-patients-are-covered-but-no-one-tells-them
Actually there is both liability in certain circumstances and reporting requirements in California. http://www.cda.org/Home/News-and-Events/Newsroom/Article-Details/california-employers-have-covid-19-reporting-obligations-to-determine-workers-compensation-presumption
The lockdowns are working big time in Europe. Hopefully we’ll see the same effects here. Two three weeks in and their numbers are back to pre surge levels. Some places went from like 2000 a day to 50, and are coming out of lockdown. The problem is will people use protections afterwards or let it come back. The concern for us is the infected minks found in Oregon and if they start to to re-infect humans.
I will continue to post data for people but I need to clarify why I do what I do. First off, this is a covid forum. In covid forums one of the things discussed is best and worst case scenarios, But more importantly information concerning spread, numbers, rates, mutations, modeling etc are discussed in a covid forum. I do not claim any expertise in this area at all. I have been an investigator on pollution lawsuits and this is new territory. What I do is I take information that is out there but in some ways difficult to understand and try and make it lay person friendly. It doesn’t always work but there you go. The reason I will continue to do this has three parts a) because the quest for knowledge is something that is important to foster especially about covid right now, b) because there are too many people who still think there is no virus or its being way overplayed and they need the facts about how bad it is and c) possibly the most important of all, this summer this site was plagued by anti-maskers and deniers that were insulting and driving people away. Numerous people stopped posting and I and didn’t want to see it continue.
USDA animal testing data By state . SARS can be detected in dogs ,cats,lions,mink so far..
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_health/one_health/downloads/sars-cov2-in-animals.pdf
Thank you for your comment researcher.
I feel like there are a lot of people who come on here who are rude (for no reason) to people who are genuinely concerned about our community and our families.
There are a lot of people who are rude to everyone who differs in opinion. Even saying that such people don’t care about others, when they might just disagree with whether demanded actions are more harmful to no purpose or just ineffective.
Checking the numbers from Europe, new infections are at best about halfway back to pre-surge levels.
TE, Not true for numerous countries like Belgium. There are some that have shown very little progress I’ll grant you that but from spring and now here the lockdowns do seem to work.
🕯🌳Keep up the good work researcher. 👍🏽👍🏽🖖🖖
Why aren’t schools open when Fauci says they should? What happened to follow the science?
How come pharmacist does not get involved directly when they see a clear present danger with staff member at a grocery store handling – stocking food like vegetables & fruits and not wearing mask
I brought it up the issue many times to supervisor then I see the pharmacist just look the other way while I am in dispute with none wearing mask staff ! Then I mentioned to the pharmacist respond oh it’s not their department !!
How come pharmacist does not get involved directly when they see a clear present danger with staff member at a grocery store handling – stocking food like vegetables & fruits and not wearing mask
I brought it up the issue many times to supervisor then I see the pharmacist just look the other way while I am in dispute with none wearing mask staff ! Then I mentioned to the pharmacist respond oh it’s not their department !!
An interesting point, 9 million people die a year from starvation. That will be about 4 times more people than covid will kill this year. I don’t remember what the first “stimulus” package was but it takes about 2 dollars a day to keep people from starving to death. I’d wager that if you took the money that has been spent on covid and put it towards world hunger it would actually save more life’s. But that’s not an America issue.
It also doesn’t forward the neo fueldal adgenda.
Neoliberalism is capitalism. Making money and not making waves is its agenda. If you have a problem with that, then you have a problem with capitalism.
I got a problem dishing out a good part of my time to fund the government bail outs of an American Renaissance interruptus.
I said neo feudalism.
I got problems when high-minded bureaucrats look down on the simple folks who struggle to deal with over reaching government askin for more money so illegals can get free shit.
Sorry, it looked like “fueled” to me.
No apologies needed, none given.
This is a fucking war, and common sense tells you and me that we are all getting played.
You can’t play with the big boys unless you got minimum 7 zeros to play…
Pay2Play.
We are just harvested for our capital.
Transfer of wealth and energy.
Opt out of the Puppet show.
We could also divert some of the bloated military budget to fight world hunger, and still fight this pandemic.
Why does it have to be either/or?
How about that huge tax break for the rich that the Republicans shoved thru? How about they pay their share and those monies are used to banish hunger?
Recently a group of top experts (with some major names) peer-reviewed the Corman-Drosten paper, which has served as the basis for most PCR tests.
The scientists discovered at least ten “major scientific flaws,” and deem the paper to be rubbish. They filed a retraction request at Eurosurveillance. This, of course, should have major consequences for the worldwide use of PCR tests.
The review is here:
https://cormandrostenreview.com/report/
Dr. Pieter Borger is an antievolution activist, not a scientist.
Prof. Dr. med. Henrik Ullrich is an antievolutionist radiologist.
Bobby Rajesh Malhotra is a graphic artist.
Dr. Michael Yeadon is an antivaccine activist that believes the pandemic is already over, somehow.
Dr. Kevin P. Corbett is another antivaccine activist that’s still pushing the autism myth.
Kevin McKernan is a cannabis geneticist.
Dr. Fabio Franchi is yet another anti vaccine activist.
Prof. Dr. Makoto is a dentist.
Most of these folks have never published anything. This is a bottom-of-the-barrel coalition of scientists you’ve got.
Geist, so are you saying there is good science and bad science?
I thought we were supposed to “believe the science”, “listen to the science”, “obey the science”
This paper is science……..your dismissal of the authors/contributors is a cheap shot.
Author’s Affiliations:
1) Dr. Pieter Borger (MSc, PhD), Molecular Genetics, W+W Research Associate, Lörrach, Germany
2) Rajesh Kumar Malhotra (Artist Alias: Bobby Rajesh Malhotra), Former 3D Artist / Scientific Visualizations at CeMM – Center for Molecular Medicine of the Austrian Academy of Sciences (2019-2020), University for Applied Arts – Department for Digital Arts Vienna, Austria
3) Dr. Michael Yeadon BSs(Hons) Biochem Tox U Surrey, PhD Pharmacology U Surrey. Managing Director, Yeadon Consulting Ltd, former Pfizer Chief Scientist, United Kingdom
4) Dr. Clare Craig MA, (Cantab) BM, BCh (Oxon), FRCPath, United Kingdom
5) Kevin McKernan, BS Emory University, Chief Scientific Officer, founder Medical Genomics, engineered the sequencing pipeline at WIBR/MIT for the Human Genome Project, Invented and developed the SOLiD sequencer, awarded patents related to PCR, DNA Isolation and Sequencing, USA
6) Prof. Dr. Klaus Steger, Department of Urology, Pediatric Urology and Andrology, Molecular Andrology, Biomedical Research Center of the Justus Liebig University, Giessen, Germany
7) Dr. Paul McSheehy (BSc, PhD), Biochemist & Industry Pharmacologist, Loerrach, Germany
8) Dr. Lidiya Angelova, MSc in Biology, PhD in Microbiology, Former researcher at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), Maryland, USA
9) Dr. Fabio Franchi, Former Dirigente Medico (M.D) in an Infectious Disease Ward, specialized in “Infectious Diseases” and “Hygiene and Preventive Medicine”, Società Scientifica per il Principio di Precauzione (SSPP), Italy
10) Dr. med. Thomas Binder, Internist and Cardiologist (FMH), Switzerland
11) Prof. Dr. med. Henrik Ullrich, specialist Diagnostic Radiology, Chief Medical Doctor at the Center for Radiology of Collm Oschatz-Hospital, Germany
12) Prof. Dr. Makoto Ohashi, Professor emeritus, PhD in Microbiology and Immunology, Tokushima University, Japan
13) Dr. Stefano Scoglio, B.Sc. Ph.D., Microbiologist, Nutritionist, Italy
14) Dr. Marjolein Doesburg-van Kleffens (MSc, PhD), specialist in Laboratory Medicine (clinical chemistry), Maasziekenhuis Pantein, Beugen, The Netherlands
15) Dr. Dorothea Gilbert (MSc, PhD), PhD Environmental Chemistry and Toxicology. DGI Consulting Services, Oslo, Norway
16) Dr. Rainer J. Klement, PhD. Department of Radiation Oncology, Leopoldina Hospital Schweinfurt, Germany
17) Dr. Ruth Schruefer, PhD, human genetics/ immunology, Munich, Germany,
18) Dra. Berber W. Pieksma, General Practitioner, The Netherlands
19) Dr. med. Jan Bonte (GJ), Consultant Neurologist, The Netherlands
20) Dr. Bruno H. Dalle Carbonare (Molecular biologist), IP specialist, BDC Basel, Switzerland
21) Dr. Kevin P. Corbett, MSc Nursing (Kings College London) PhD (London South Bank) Social Sciences (Science & Technology Studies) London, England, United Kingdom
22) Prof. Dr. Ulrike Kämmerer, specialist in Virology / Immunology / Human Biology / Cell Biology, University Hospital Würzburg, Germany
There exist religious diploma mills that will give legitimate-looking degrees to unqualified hacks. A biologist that doesn’t recognize the existance of evolution by natural selection is like a baker who doesn’t believe that yeast exists. The one thing that unifies all of these people is a belief in kook pseudoscience. The criticism of COVID-19 research as an immature science is preposterous given that the field is less than a year old. This is coming from a lead “researcher” that believes the world was spoken into existence by a genie over the course of six days.
Climate change scientists come to mind!
What were the professions our founding fathers?
Farmers!
Just an example that sucking on the teet of the priest class make you a slave to the priest class.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founding_Fathers_of_the_United_States#Occupations
Incorrect. Most of them were lawyers. Benjamin Franklin was a scientist. A PRO-VACCINE scientist.
“In 1736 I lost one of my sons, a fine boy of four years old, by the smallpox taken in the common way. I long regretted bitterly and still regret that I had not given it to him by inoculation. This I mention for the sake of the parents who omit that operation, on the supposition that they should never forgive themselves if a child died under it; my example showing that the regret may be the same either way, and that, therefore, the safer should be chosen.”
SUMMARY CATALOGUE OF ERRORS FOUND IN THE PAPER
The Corman-Drosten paper contains the following specific errors:
1. There exists no specified reason to use these extremely high concentrations of primers in this protocol. The described concentrations lead to increased nonspecific bindings and PCR product amplifications, making the test unsuitable as a specific diagnostic tool to identify the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
2. Six unspecified wobbly positions will introduce an enormous variability in the real world laboratory implementations of this test; the confusing nonspecific description in the Corman-Drosten paper is not suitable as a Standard Operational Protocol making the test unsuitable as a specific diagnostic tool to identify the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
3. The test cannot discriminate between the whole virus and viral fragments. Therefore, the test cannot be used as a diagnostic for intact (infectious) viruses, making the test unsuitable as a specific diagnostic tool to identify the SARS-CoV-2 virus and make inferences about the presence of an infection.
4. A difference of 10° C with respect to the annealing temperature Tm for primer pair1 (RdRp_SARSr_F and RdRp_SARSr_R) also makes the test unsuitable as a specific diagnostic tool to identify the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
5. A severe error is the omission of a Ct value at which a sample is considered positive and negative. This Ct value is also not found in follow-up submissions making the test unsuitable as a specific diagnostic tool to identify the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
6. The PCR products have not been validated at the molecular level. This fact makes the protocol useless as a specific diagnostic tool to identify the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
7. The PCR test contains neither a unique positive control to evaluate its specificity for SARS-CoV-2 nor a negative control to exclude the presence of other coronaviruses, making the test unsuitable as a specific diagnostic tool to identify the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
8. The test design in the Corman-Drosten paper is so vague and flawed that one can go in dozens of different directions; nothing is standardized and there is no SOP. This highly questions the scientific validity of the test and makes it unsuitable as a specific diagnostic tool to identify the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
9. Most likely, the Corman-Drosten paper was not peer-reviewed making the test unsuitable as a specific diagnostic tool to identify the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
10. We find severe conflicts of interest for at least four authors, in addition to the fact that two of the authors of the Corman-Drosten paper (Christian Drosten and Chantal Reusken) are members of the editorial board of Eurosurveillance. A conflict of interest was added on July 29 2020 (Olfert Landt is CEO of TIB-Molbiol; Marco Kaiser is senior researcher at GenExpress and serves as scientific advisor for TIB-Molbiol), that was not declared in the original version (and still is missing in the PubMed version); TIB-Molbiol is the company which was “the first” to produce PCR kits (Light Mix) based on the protocol published in the Corman-Drosten manuscript, and according to their own words, they distributed these PCR-test kits before the publication was even submitted [20]; further, Victor Corman & Christian Drosten failed to mention their second affiliation: the commercial test laboratory “Labor Berlin”. Both are responsible for the virus diagnostics there [21] and the company operates in the realm of real time PCR-testing.
In light of our re-examination of the test protocol to identify SARS-CoV-2 described in the Corman-Drosten paper we have identified concerning errors and inherent fallacies which render the SARS-CoV-2 PCR test useless.
CONCLUSION
The decision as to which test protocols are published and made widely available lies squarely in the hands of Eurosurveillance. A decision to recognise the errors apparent in the Corman-Drosten paper has the benefit to greatly minimise human cost and suffering going forward.
Is it not in the best interest of Eurosurveillance to retract this paper? Our conclusion is clear. In the face of all the tremendous PCR-protocol design flaws and errors described here, we conclude: There is not much of a choice left in the framework of scientific integrity and responsibility.
https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.25.3.2000045
https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.25.30.2001437
https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.25.30.2001374
No test is 100% accurate, but actual specialists on the front lines believe that it’s the best tool we have. Your coalition of antivaxers and creationists does little to convince me that we should open up for business and just live with the consequences.
FRANKOSTEIN-UPDATE YOUR DAMM DASHBOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Our taxes pay your wage of 250K. Get one of your staff to input all the stats for the zip code cities.
The situation with people insisting on gathering for Thanksgiving reminds me of a story from World War II. Some commander decided that it would be great for his frontline troops to have a Thanksgiving dinner instead of field rations. So he got them into a big chow line and the Germans blasted them.
The only people in my family insisting to have Thanksgiving, were the elders. I see it all day long, seniors that fly the middle finger to covid. Had a couple of ladies in their 70s or 80s give me shit about being masked as I walked into a restaurant. Just makes me laugh under the mask, you got panickers mean muggin the older ladies. I just about hit the floor laughing so hard. Funny how a vaccine is close now that case numbers are climbing out of control. Panicked people will do some crazy things.
It is required to wear a mask into restaurants and they had to wear a mask to be seated also. So you’re saying they laughed at you for following the protocol they followed? Hmmmmmm.
LR and got logic, I’m beginning to agree with you that covid has been around longer than they say. The types of symptoms people with the flu had in Nov mirror covid to a tee. We’ll probably never know.
Researcher, not likely.
Where are the unexplained excess deaths?
Brian, ask Genevieve Briand of John’s Hopkins….she knows all about it!
https://www.aier.org/article/new-study-highlights-serious-accounting-error-regarding-covid-deaths/
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/cdc-data-shows-higher-number-of-deaths-in-2020-compared-to-previous-years-johns-hopkins-student-article-compared-percentages-not-raw-numbers/
Not to mention she makes no use of hospital capacity data over the last 10 months, but here was the explanation on that paper:
In accordance with our standards for transparency, we are sharing with our readers how we came to this decision. The News-Letter is an editorially and financially independent, student-run publication. Our articles and content are not endorsed by the University or the School of Medicine, and our decision to retract this article was made independently.
Briand’s study should not be used exclusively in understanding the impact of COVID-19, but should be taken in context with the countless other data published by Hopkins, the World Health Organization and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
As assistant director for the Master’s in Applied Economics program at Hopkins, Briand is neither a medical professional nor a disease researcher. At her talk, she herself stated that more research and data are needed to understand the effects of COVID-19 in the U.S.
Briand was quoted in the article as saying, “All of this points to no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers.” This claim is incorrect and does not take into account the spike in raw death count from all causes compared to previous years. According to the CDC, there have been almost 300,000 excess deaths due to COVID-19. Additionally, Briand presented data of total U.S. deaths in comparison to COVID-19-related deaths as a proportion percentage, which trivializes the repercussions of the pandemic. This evidence does not disprove the severity of COVID-19; an increase in excess deaths is not represented in these proportionalities because they are offered as percentages, not raw numbers.
Briand also claimed in her analysis that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may be incorrectly categorized as COVID-19-related deaths. However, COVID-19 disproportionately affects those with preexisting conditions, so those with those underlying conditions are statistically more likely to be severely affected and die from the virus.
Because of these inaccuracies and our failure to provide additional information about the effects of COVID-19, The News-Letter decided to retract this article. It is our duty as a publication to combat the spread of misinformation and to enhance our fact-checking process. We apologize to our readers.
https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19
CDC now says COVID-19 was on west coast Dec 13 2019 ,if not earlier.
Like this.
Coronavirus could have been spreading in US as early as mid-December 2019, study suggests
From CNN Health’s Amanda Sealy
The novel coronavirus may have infected people in the United States as early as Dec. 13, 2019, according to a study published Monday in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases.
The study, which was conducted by scientists at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, analyzed blood donations collected by the American Red Cross from Dec. 13, 2019 through Jan. 17, 2020.
The 7,389 samples, collected from nine states, were tested for SARS-CoV-2 reactive antibodies. SARS-CoV-2 is the scientific name for the coronavirus that causes Covid-19.
Of the samples tested, at least 106 were found to have antibodies for SARS-CoV-2, including ones collected from California, Oregon and Washington from Dec. 13 through Dec. 16, 2019.
“The new coronavirus infected people in the U.S. in mid-December 2019, a few weeks before it was officially identified in China and about a month earlier than public health authorities found the first U.S. case…”
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/covid-19-likely-in-u-s-in-mid-december-2019-cdc-scientists-report-11606782449
A bunch of us already got it.
And recovered .
I continue to cringe at the whiney non-stop “but what about the long term fallout” narrative.
It’s been. One. Year.
No one can prove the absence, or existence, of any “long term” issues.
So plz STFU.
Healthy people that don’t live on garbage, OTC drugs, and booze, get over illnesses like colds, flu and even (gasp! ) Covid19, without lingering symptoms.
Sickly, poorly fed, medicated, lazy, fat blobs don’t .
There’s always that person who’s sick all the time and takes 3-6 weeks , or longer to recover from a sniffle. Why should the recovery model be any different with the Corona?
That’s life/death.
Dont come to a gun fight with a butter knife . Fortify yourself.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351
Every virus infection has some who suffer long term effects. That is not to dismiss the chance but that it is worse with covid-19 has yet o be shown.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dH-wTXxlN4w
Thanks Giest.
I’ve never taken a long time to recover from any illness, except CoV-19. 9 months later still breathing issues, cough, chest pain, extreme fatigue some days, muscle weakness, night sweats, brain fog. Had a few bad flus in my life and very recovered quickly. Multiple other people I’ve known to have gotten it also have had lasting issues. I’ve worked very hard to rehab myself over the last few months and I’m doing much better, but I wouldn’t consider myself fully recovered. I’ve spent thousands on medical care in the past 9 months, but my quality of life is not the same as before I got sick. People are coming down with chronic conditions like adult onset asthma, colitis, heart conditions after “recovering” from being sick. Blessed are you and yours that you got to walk away with a clean slate. It’s not the same for everyone and you won’t know how sick you may get until you are or aren’t extremely ill.
I was healthy, active, and relatively young. There are a lot of unknowns about exposure to how sick you become too. It’s possible wearing a mask helps decrease a large exposure and may lead to more mild symptoms. I was heavily exposed to people who were very sick in late feb/early march with no mask because we were told cov-19 wasn’t here yet. Possible that exposure played a role in severity of illness.
So???
Your alive!
Just think of heart disease, cancer, etc that will be on the road ahead.
You are merely a statistic in the game of life.
We don’t know what your medical history, vaccination schedule, parental genetic dysposition.
You think suffering isnt universal?
If statistical evidence isn’t good enough for you, and anecdotal evidence isn’t good enough for you, its pretty clear your mind was made up from the outset. What would be enough to convince you of the scientific consensus? Would it take Donald Trump getting Covid and immediately seeking a quarter-million dollars of experimental treatment?
Colitis? From COVID-19? Ok.
The medically vulnerable and psychologically “distressed” need to stay safe at home but the rest of us need to keep working so we can feed them. InstaCart recommended.
“My Mom’s journey with COVID-19 ended last week…
Despite being careful and taking every precaution, my beautiful, amazing mother, Jan Daley Brent, died from COVID complications this past Tuesday, 11/24.
Her passing was violent and horrific, and she spent the last weeks of her life suffocating from COVID-Induced pneumonia while in agonizing pain, writhing, screaming, and sobbing whenever she wasn’t heavily sedated. She described the pain as feeling like her body was “on fire” or being stabbed with hot needles, and morphine and a host of other serious painkillers did almost nothing to lessen her agony when awake.
In addition to the physical symptoms, the combination of heavy narcotics and COVID-related neurological issues also caused almost constant terrifying delusions and hallucinations whenever she was awake towards the end, and she was awake between 7-10 hours a day the last week of her life…I just can’t begin to articulate how hellish and horrifying the sum total of her experience must have been for her, and the complete and utter despair I feel at being so powerless to help or even touch her as she went through it is a crushing weight that’s hard to bear. The last semi-lucid conversation I was able to have with my beautiful Mom was more than a week before she died, and, being the selfless, loving Mother to the end, her last words to me, gasped out over the telephone through ragged, panting, suffocating breaths and sobs and cries of terror and pain, will haunt me forever…
“Patrick…this is terrible…[sobs and cries of pain]…Every…breath…I… take…just…[chainsaw-like panting]…just takes…[violent coughing]…everything I have….[more moans, drops phone and cries to the nurse “Oh god, please help me…”, I hear the nurse trying to comfort her as she hands her back the phone]…Patrick…I can’t talk…[panting]… I need to tell you one thing before I go…and you need to listen…[this was the longest, strongest sentence of our conversation]….You and Heather [my wife]…[sounds of my mom desperately gulping oxygen]… and Finn, Joss, and Ruby [my kids, her grandchildren]…[more cries of pain and sobbing]…need to take this seriously…[gasp, labored panting]…Do everything you can to protect yourselves…[cries of pain]…I don’t want anyone I love to go through this…I love you…”. She drops the phone again and the nurse picks up, and I, still shocked by how bad things have gotten, listen in stunned silence as she tells me my mom’s condition has progressed rapidly, and they’re just trying to “keep her comfortable” at this point…The strain in the nurse’s voice was palpable through the phone…
My Mom suffered for eight tortuous, horrifying days after that call, her condition seeming to worsen with each agonizing hour that ticked by…I can’t imagine the unspeakable pain she must have been in at the end.
I couldn’t see and comfort my wonderful Mom in person as she was dying, and the astounding helplessness and resulting, seething rage is still very much with me as I type this…Her body was whisked away for cremation shortly after her death, and to think I’ll never see her sweet, loving face again or hear her voice and laughter twists my guts into knots, and makes me want to rage blindly at the unfairness of it all. These feelings have nowhere to go, and sit in my belly like a cold, leaden stone…
She deserved a much better death than this.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, my dad also had COVID at the same time, and despite being 75 years old with a host of preexisting conditions that put him in the same “VERY HIGH” risk group alongside my mom, the virus didn’t affect him at all…not a single symptom. Married 47 years, my parents’ love was deep and profound, and my Dad is shattered not only by the loss of the love of his life, but even more so by the horrific way she was taken from us, and the unimaginable agony and suffering she had to endure before the virus finally killed her…it was like she was tortured to death.
This thing is very real, and it’s an absolute roll of the dice on how it will affect you.
I can say, without reservation, that at this point, anyone who is refusing to wear a mask or take other simple precautions to protect those around them have made it abundantly clear they couldn’t care less about anyone but themselves, and they are, unequivocally, putrid piles of steaming, soulless, self-flatulating, selfish garbage… They are not “decent” people in any way shape or form, and I’m actively cutting the few I know like this out of my life forever, and encourage all of you to do the same. Their lethally self-indulgent, supremely selfish and murderous behavior in the name of whatever warped, perverted concept of “personal freedoms” or “rights” they claim has already killed tens of thousands of our friends, family-members, and neighbors who didn’t have to die, and these wretched folks deserve whatever’s coming to them, Karmic or otherwise.
Please be safe.”
pulled from Siskiyou Covid19 News and Data
It would be appropriate in the future to say what source your quoting before the quoted material. At first glance it seemed like you were writing this excerpt, not someone from siskiyou.
Sucks we live in Cali where we are being used for as pawns for political gain. You know they are offering Regeneron and Remdisvir treatments in Texas for free? Oh wait, you watch CNN, a liberal propaganda machine. That woman had no reason to die. We have very effective treatments for COVID and a vaccine on the way, this is purely political at this point. Pull your head out of your you know where.
Here is an Anecdote from my mother’s illness with covid.
“Son a contact tracer called me and said that an employee from XX exposed me.”
5 days later, “Are you sick mom?”
My mother replied, “I don’t think so, I just have a runny nose.”
3 days later I get sick. My mother says, “Well maybe if you didn’t smoke so much pot you would be fine like me, get over it wimp and go chop some wood.”
Not another word said. I go chop wood.
Thats how a true American family handles it, and there are millions and millions of stories just like that. Should truly inspire everybody everywhere.
🕯🌳55 million people traveled for Thanksgiving, 3 to 8 million of them at least past thur California. Merry Christmas. How many people here think there going to see the vaccine before July of 2021?🖖🖖 And that would be just the first dose.🤔
I know around 80 people that have contracted Covid. One died and the rest had no symptoms.
Imagine that !! What is all the hype about?
🤪🤡🤪🤡
Covid was here in 2019, but nobody cared for 3 months. After all the super spreader events and death and organ damage for 3 months of no masks, no sheltering, no distancing. How did we survive, day late and dollar short.