Coping with the Long-Term Effects of a Pandemic

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Press release from Humboldt County Joint Information Center:

Local public health officials are calling attention to the long-term effects of living through a pandemic and are encouraging residents to engage in activities that address physical and mental wellness.

Humboldt County Department of Health & Human Services Behavioral Health Director Emi Botzler-Rodgers said when COVID-19 started, many of us expected to be impacted for a few weeks or months. Now that it’s been more than seven months, she said people are exhausted and wondering if there is an end in sight.

“Pandemic fatigue is real and takes a toll,” Botzler-Rodgers said. “It is so important to continue to connect with other people in ways that are safe. It is also critical to care for ourselves with healthy eating, rest and exercise.”

Humboldt County Health Officer Dr. Teresa Frankovich said that some people may find they are struggling to stay motivated to follow recommended prevention strategies over this long period of time. “It’s just as important to embrace healthy coping strategies as it is to practice preventive measures, and we hope that people do both,” she said.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention acknowledges people react differently to stressful situations and encourages the following healthy coping strategies:

  • Take care of your emotional health. Taking care of your emotional health will help you think clearly and react to the urgent needs to protect yourself and your family.
  • Take breaks from watching, reading or listening to news stories, including those on social media. Hearing about the pandemic repeatedly can be upsetting.
  • Take care of your body. Practices can include taking deep breaths, stretching or meditating; eating healthy, well-balanced meals; exercising regularly, getting plenty of sleep and avoiding excessive alcohol and drug use.
  • Make time to unwind. Try to engage in some other activities you enjoy.
  • Connect with others. Talk with people you trust about your concerns and how you are feeling.
  • Connect with your community or faith-based organizations. Consider connecting online, through social media, by phone or mail.

“It is abundantly valuable to engage in activities that renew and infuse health into your body, mind and spirit,” Botzler-Rodgers said. “Spend time outdoors and breathe. Be kind to yourself and one another. We are all in this together and that is how we will get through it — together.”

For the most recent COVID-19 information, visit cdc.gov or cdph.ca.gov. Local information is available at humboldtgov.org or during business hours by contacting [email protected] or calling 707-441-5000.

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Reader
3 years ago

Open everything back up. Quarantine is for sick people – we are not sick.

Sigh Ants
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Sigh Ants
3 years ago
Reply to  Reader

About a quarter of a million people in the US who died from this virus would beg to disagree. If they weren’t dead, that is.

All of this could’ve been much easier if there wasn’t such a large proportion of the population who are insistent idiots refusing common sense measures to reduce the viral spread. I give you the 450,000 who attended Sturgis this year and then returned spreading the virus all over the place as an example. Sheer fucking idiocy.

Pharmstheproblem
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Pharmstheproblem
3 years ago
Reply to  Sigh Ants

If that’s the real number! How many have died because of the lockout? How much stress has been put on people with doom and gloom reports daily? Give me a break! Sky’s falling won’t help anyone, be positive 99% of the people will be just fine!

Fredmom
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3 years ago

Soooo, should I be positive 99% of the time about losing my job of 15 years? And my health insurance? Oh and that the field my job was in will most likely never return?

Just Sayin
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Just Sayin
3 years ago

You twits need to focus on reality. You live in your echo chamber and obsess. The problem is yourself and your own mental short comings. You should be taking this time to build a better you, not obsess about things that are far outside your mental capacity. Time and time again you people want to pretend everything is a conspiracy because your inability to believe things outside your low iq range…. Just because it is too difficult for your little brain doesn’t mean it isn’t real. That is why we are still dealing with this, the majority of Americans are incompetent when it comes to critical thinking and common sense!

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
3 years ago
Reply to  Sigh Ants

If people are going to bike rallies and trump rallies unmasked, then whats the use, why should I have to mask and shelter. Thats it , I’m done wearing a mask if half the nation isn’t going to follow guidelines then why should I? Is that what you’re saying ? Or you just like trying to stir the pot? Or just mad because your scooter couldn’t pull off a run to sturgis.

RefFan
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RefFan
3 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

I have been to quite a few sml & lrg cities this summer on fire assignments & it amazed me how many businesses & ppl do not wear or require masks…Glad to be back in Humboldt Rona free.

Sigh Ants
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Sigh Ants
3 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Actually my point was that we could have made this a lot less severe had more people been willing to abide by common sense practices that would have largely precluded such extreme shutdowns.

But no, we Americans as a group tend to be oblivious to common sense. Hence, we’re screwed. That realization is part of my personal pandemic fatigue. I’m still going to mask and social distance because I’m not that big a fan of most of you people anyway to try and limit my risks of getting or spreading the virus. But I have no illusions that this is going away anytime soon.

I’d never have gone to the rally anyway — I hate crowds.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Sigh Ants

More people would have been willing to cooperate had not for the constant abuse heaped on Americans by fellow Americans for the last two decades. Any country that excuses mass protests while condemning mass rallies has earned its lack of unity. Any country that sends most of its energy vilifying its own has zero excuse to blame others for not cooperating.

rollin
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rollin
3 years ago
Reply to  Sigh Ants

Sigh Ants, your comment is the only thing that is “sheer fucking idiocy”. There is no proof that sturgis lead to anything. There IS NO discernable difference in places that locked down hardcore and places that did not, NONE!

Here’s a link to the leftist of left wing publications that doesn’t even agree with you. Turn off CNN, it’s propaganda.

https://slate.com/technology/2020/09/sturgis-rally-covid19-explosion-paper.html

John DeLodder
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John DeLodder
3 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Right!! Don’t believe the experts because you are so much smarter than them. Your GED Trumps (pun intended) a person with a doctoral. Does going to a witch doctor qualify??

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
3 years ago
Reply to  John DeLodder

I didn’t realize we had experts on COVID-19, by all means let them talk. If they are an expert, they must have a cure. Why do they change guidelines every month if they are experts on COVID-19. Face the facts ,there are no experts on this situation, it’s new territory for them. Your so called experts are scrambling for data ,maybe in a couple years they will be an expert.

Just Sayin
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Just Sayin
3 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Lmfao, but you conspiracy nuts got it locked down!!!! Get a clue, you better start looking!

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Just Sayin

What? Do you have a conspiracy theory about conspiracy nuts? The news is all so partisan- so ridiculously obviously partisan- that no moderate individual can tell what’s real and what’s nonsense. Too many people have invested in acting on what they want to believe to waste time on sorting out whether it is reasonable.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
3 years ago
Reply to  Just Sayin

No conspiracy bud, just stating the truth.

Geist
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Geist
3 years ago
Reply to  rollin

The slate article you posted state a that ~200 cases were traced directly to the rally. OP didn’t claim there were 450,000 cases, only that 450,000 people attended, which is true.

Maybe try reading before posting.

rollin
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rollin
3 years ago
Reply to  Geist

Geist, As usual you are wrong. Even IF the article said there were 200 deaths directly related to Sturgis ( IT DOES NOT), that’s not 266,000 and certainly NOT the “super spreader” event that was predicted. Do you always just make shit up? You should get a job at CNN.

“Maybe try reading before posting.”

Maybe try heading your own advice.

Geist
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Geist
3 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Nobody mentioned the 266,000 figure besides you. Nobody mentioned 200 deaths but you. Its real easy to argue against strawmen, isn’t it?

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Geist

When science is controlled by polical agendas, tracing the cases spread by a bike rally (condemned by public health) is possible while tracing the cases spread by mass protesting (pointedly avoided being condemned by public health lest they be denounced as racist/fascist) is made impossible. When science becomes a tool of public opinion, it ceases being respected. When an individual insults someone and praises another for the same behavior, they have no one but themselves to blame if they are despised.

Geist
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Geist
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Science is “controlled” by experimental data.

Sigh Anse
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Sigh Anse
3 years ago
Reply to  rollin
lol nooo
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well . . .
Guest
well . . .
3 years ago
Reply to  rollin

There is considerable difference between nations who “lock down hardcore” and those who did not. No where in the US had a “hardcore” lock down, which would have included travel restrictions domestically.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
3 years ago
Reply to  well . . .

We did have one here on the Oregon coast, early on. Someone I know got a 1200.00 ticket on the highway to the coast. Was stopped twice, the first cop let him go (he works in an essential industry and his boss required him to come to work), the second said, “Yeah, don’t care” and gave him the ticket.

But it went away awhile back. Also, we had a huge outbreak shortly afterwards.

Back East
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3 years ago
Reply to  Sigh Ants

You are incorrect. The term is “Covid related deaths”. I work at a hospital and get asked this constantly. The number of people who died from Covid alone is far far lower. Plus you have a system that financially rewards Covid deaths. We have seen it at our hospital and it’s well documented that people are dying of other things but being labeled as a Covid death, even though Covid didn’t kill them. I could give you multiple examples from my own experience but I’ll give you one. Elderly woman over 80 has been having respiratory trouble the last 5 years. She was a lifetime smoker. Ambulance brings her to the hospital because she can’t breathe. We put her on a ventilator. She tests negative for a week for Covid. She takes a quick turn for the worst and dies and then tests positive. It’s a “Covid” death. This woman was on her way out, Covid didn’t kill her. Nearly everyone I know at multiple hospitals have the same story. I’d say 75% of the deaths I see fit a very similar narrative.

Sigh Anse
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Sigh Anse
3 years ago
Reply to  Back East

300,000 deaths this year above expected shows that the “COVID related” deaths are probably being undercounted, not over-counted.

Back East
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Sigh Anse

Not trying to sound like a jerk or take away from a somewhat valid point but please know that the vast majority of deaths we are seeing are people who are very vulnerable and close to death. I have yet to see one death from Covid where the person was healthy and got Covid and died. I’ve spoken with numerous colleagues in this area and around PA and they all say pretty much the same thing.

well . . .
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well . . .
3 years ago
Reply to  Back East

We know from comparing all cause mortality during he pandemic to typical all cause mortality before the pandemic that the number of deaths are UNDER reported. Although it is true that some deaths are incorrectly reported as being caused by covid-19.

IF the story you provided is true then you have a legal and ethical obligation to report the medical fraud you are describing.

Back East
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  well . . .

Funny you say that bc multiple people have put it up the administrative chain of command but nothing ever happens. My family and my paycheck are my obligations now but point taken. I’m certainly not trying to downplay it but there’s a difference in deaths that needs to be distinguished. The vast majority of deaths we have seen are a Covid related, not Covid deaths. The vast majority of these folks, regardless of age, are in bad shape to begin with. We just had a very obese man over the age of 70 who died last week from a heart attack, but he tested positive for Covid and somehow it’s a Covid death. Guy has had heart surgery and bypass surgery twice now. Judy another TRUE story to throw out.

Just Watching
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Just Watching
3 years ago
Reply to  Back East

Thank you so much for sharing your groundtruth reports Back East. Seriously!

JRWhitmore
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JRWhitmore
3 years ago
Reply to  Sigh Ants

People die every single day, from many causes. Humans cannot stop the spread of a virus, impossible. Stop whining and start living.

Geist
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Geist
3 years ago
Reply to  Reader

What do you need open that hasn’t already? Bars and strip clubs?

Quarantines are an epidemiological intervention to prevent disease transmission. They are not for the benifit of the sick, they are for the benefit of everyone else. If the population of the US had done a better job of isolating, and our government had done a better job providing a social safety net, we could already be fully open like New Zealand. Pushing the government to reopen businesses prematurely is just going to give us another round of lockdowns.

THC
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THC
3 years ago
Reply to  Geist

New Zealand is an island the size of Great Britain with only 5 million people on it and shut its International borders down…

Geist
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Geist
3 years ago
Reply to  THC

They also have a well-educated population, a good social-safety net and a competent government that’s not playing around with fascism.

rollin
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rollin
3 years ago
Reply to  Geist

So locking people up like animals is “NOT playing around with fascism”? Riiiiight!

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Geist

New Zealand has quarantine componds, patrolled by police and the military, requires their own citizens to “book” a spot in them before they are allowed to enter the country (which are rationed), have barred all foreign students, won’t let people,beven foreigners wanting to go home, leave until just recently and only on one one way flights, jailed people who even momentarily exposed themselves to a person in quarantine, and has always had a strict racism based immigration system and racism is still very acceptable even while protesting racism outside New Zealand. Yup, New Zealanders are all in it together.

However, the rich are literally exceped from all that nonsense.
“Superyacht crew are among the few exempted foreign citizens able to enter the New Zealand border provided the boat they steer spends millions in refit and repair work in a Kiwi marine outfitter.” https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/new-zealands-covid-19-quarantine-inequality-superyacht-from-malta-to-isolate-at-queens-wharf/STVXYVQAVG642KI4T3YBGKZ3EY/

“A painter has been jailed in New Zealand after he broke lockdown rules by entering a coronavirus quarantine facility and hugging a friend who was isolating.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8651383/New-Zealand-man-hugged-quarantining-friend-JAILED-six-weeks-breaking-coronavirus-rules.html

But then you are sure to believe that your points arevreallly, really important no matter what.

Geist
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Geist
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Trump has been using the military and police to suppress political dissent, to absolutely no good effect. Meanwhile, the Kiwis used it to effectively 100% suppress the virus and get back to normal. GEE, I WONDER WHICH APPROACH WAS MORE EFFECTIVE.

Reader
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Reader
3 years ago
Reply to  Geist

Thanks, you are so smart. I definitely hadn’t heard that before and appreciate your fresh insights.

Geist
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Geist
3 years ago
Reply to  Reader

You didn’t answer my question. What do you need open, that isn’t already? Bars or strip clubs?

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
3 years ago
Reply to  Geist

Passport office is a good start.

Jim Brickley
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Jim Brickley
3 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Passport’s not going to help you when the rest of the civilized world doesn’t want anything to do with stupid Americans!

rollin
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rollin
3 years ago
Reply to  Geist

“and our government had done a better job providing a social safety net”

Yes because China virus tends not to attack people when it knows they’re on welfare. If we went full communist the virus would just leave us alone completely.

Geist
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Geist
3 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Yes, exactly that, but without the sarcasm and red panic.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN22P25E

A well-fed, housed populous is less panicky and emotional than the current American anti-masking, pro-Trump, anarchocapitalist crowd.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Geist

Except the panicking are mostly socialists around here. The not-panicking are those who value their freedom to act on their own behalf.

Screwed Sideways
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Screwed Sideways
3 years ago

Pandemic fatigue is real, but the stress is hard to measure…

Add disaster fatigue, and the quantitative PTSD from fires and financial difficulties, the idiotic drivel from public figures and local government garbage from school systems, and the endless election nonsense that has been present all year, and the real “pandemic” becomes Mental Health Issues!

We need the vaccine, but the government is teasing, delaying…

We need financial relief, but the government is dangling it as an incentive to “vote for me!!”

We need rain, so the fires will end (for Colorado too!).

We need this stupid fucking election OVER!! We could have used some better candidates too!!

Will life return to the regular crazy condition recognized in California as “normal?”

Maybe not, and maybe not for a long time, but people can take better care of themselves and adapt.

Hang in there!

rollin
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rollin
3 years ago

Here’s some long term effects that liberals like to ignore while they’re busy virtue signaling and yelling at you because you dare to want to make a living to pay for them to be on welfare. And don’t dare let that mask slip below your nose for a minute so you can breathe. Otherwise the douchiest of the douchebag leftists will be eager to make a scene and publicly scorn you to prove to everyone how much they care. Liberalism is a mental disorder!

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/10/20/depression-deaths-double-cancelled-surgeries-lockdown-report/

thetallone
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thetallone
3 years ago
Reply to  rollin

First off, that article is about the United Kingdom, not the US. It talks about how the healthcare system became overwhelmed with Covid, and so other health problems were ignored or underserved. OK. So, if we let the virus run wild, like the Trumpster and his radiologist wacko advisor are suggesting, what happens? The healthcare system gets overwhelmed, as it already is in places like Utah, where all the ICU units are full. Wear a damn mask.

DawnI
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DawnI
3 years ago

Reply to ‘Reader’,
You’re OK hanging out with folks that have no clue they may have been exposed and are contagious (to everyone, everywhere the pass through) before they are aware they are sick?
Without overreaching contact tracing (like some countries have done through cell phones) there is no way everyone exposed to a contagious person can be alerted. Even if they are it may be too late for some of them. Hence it goes – more and more exposed and infected citizens.
Humboldt County has kept our infectious rates fairly low because we have remained semi SIP and cautious in reopening willy nilly.
Rates of COVID are on the rise all over the world. The more we move forward cautiously more Humboldt Cty folks may be spared weeks of illness, unknown after effects and possible death.

Willie Bray
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3 years ago

🕯🌳The fake gym that’s running a sex club in the back in Fortuna is open and it never shut down. Its protected by Fortunas finest. It’s not so much the death count at present but the future health problems that MIGHT come along from having the virus. And with “not my potus” dismantling the health care system there will be nothing for people to depend on.

Just sayin'
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Just sayin'
3 years ago
Reply to  Willie Bray

Address please. For, uh… Research reasons.

Zipline
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Zipline
3 years ago

Your elected and unelected “officials ” have caused more harm than covid ever will. Heaven help us all if these same morons are around when something serious happens. The black death or global warming comes to mind…..oh, wait global warming IS here….oh well kiss your asses goodby.

Big Bang
Guest
3 years ago

0.00014 % chance of dying even if I get the dempanic? Fuck it, I’ll take my chances while you run for the storm cellar . The #’s have been padded and outright lied about from the start. Yeah, if you are 83 and smoked your life away, it will finish you off, but keep telling yourself that a stupid dust mask will contain a virus on a snot droplet!

researcher
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researcher
3 years ago

The virus continues to surge around the world. Yesterday the number of new cases for one day reached an all time high for our beloved planet with 440,000 new cases. But the more important metric, the seven day average shows an even bleaker picture. On October 1st the average was 299,000 a day. On the the 20th it was 371,000 and still going up like a rocket. That is a massive surge in new cases, and we’ve only just begun flu season.

The situation in the US is similar. In the second week of September we hit a seven day low of 34,000.
October 1st it was 43,000 a day and October 20th it was 59,000 a day. That is more or less a 60% rise in new cases. That is way more than experts were hoping for entering flu season. And it shows that we are not only currently losing the battle to slow this thing down, it is starting to over power the worlds resources worse than the spring wave.

By the end of September Trump knew that the country was experiencing the beginning of a surge from meetings and the weekly Coronavirus Task Force reports, but instead of alerting the nation he had the reports buried and silenced the task force. Since then, while hosting a series of superspreader events in hotspots like Minnesota, North Carolina, and Wisconsin, he made the following quotes;
“affects virtually nobody”, “the end of the pandemic is in sight,” (the following day he announced he had covid), and most recently “people are tired of Covid….they’re tired of it. People are tired of hearing Fauci and all these idiots.”

No, his involvement can’t be taken out of the equation because it is the main reason we are going downhill fast, not just zero leadership, but negative leadership, and it continues to this day.

This situation is dire and in the next couple of weeks we will see how dire. At this point in time the death rate (or ratio) is 5 times worse for covid than the seasonal flu according to a news release from the CDC yesterday. If the CFR continues to grow that disparity will also grow.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  researcher

Oh so in your view is Trump suppressing the importance off reports responsible for the virus situation in Europe? In South America? In Africa? The Middle East? Or could it be that playing politics by blaming Trump or defending him has no real effect on a pandemic where the nature of politics was never going to do the things required to successfully quarantine or even track and trace or test in the first place? In case you haven’t noticed the very few countries that have successfully (more or less) controlled the virus are countries with no shared borders, ie island, and very restrictive immigration rules before the pandemic and a very mono ethnic culture which never objected to treating outsiders as having no rights.

Then there’s the the scientist were right and Trump refused to listen nonsense. The CDC has for decades, long before Trump, asserted their right to control every medical drug, device and treatment. The CDC made the US dependent on their approval yet failed to either approve or develop the tests that were needed to even have a chance at the testing needed to do what you say was Trump’s failed to do.

And don’t even start on the liberal attitude that created the international dominance of the Chinese controlled WHO (or as the Japanese put it, the Chinese Health Organization), the resources needed to make testing material and personal protective equipment needed by hospitals. Anyone who wanted the US to control its own manufacture and research was called a fascist or racist or greedy capitalist.

In fact the same political ideologues who are so determined to blame Trump were responsible for his getting elected by trashing their own country non stop and forcing people’s livelihood to be sent overseas. If you want to know why the US couldn’t control the effects of the pandemic, look in the mirror- you’re the one world, evironmentalist bullies that created it. Trump knew from the beginning what the death rate was going to be while the “scientists” were busy with the press-academia machine announcing massively larger-than-reality death rates (remember all the modeling?) . Remembe Cuomo and his orders putting recovering covid-19 patients into nursing homes over the panicked new reports of mass casualties that never showed up? The never-used ventilators that Trump tried to get to match their demands? The never used hospital ships he sent? The Trump orders barring international selling of the small stock of US made PPE ? The attempt to restrict travel for which he was condemned by the same people who blame him now for not succeeding? Congratulations! You have succeeded in the goal of creating a country that must import 40% of its researchers and doctors but has a lawyer on every corner. That can’t keep out illegal workers much less sick people. That can’t manufacture what it needs but has a huge number of academics who can’t do anything but complain. Of course you blame Trump. Otherwise you might have to look at yourselves.

Truth
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Truth
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

@ Guest 12:04 pm

YES!!!!!!!
And please. please, don’t forget the utter lack of a scientific GOLD STANDARD. All of them, Fauci on down, are guessing right now and they’re screwing the world population in the meantime.

Speaking of gold though, you definitely have some here! “… Otherwise you might have to look at yourselves.” BOOM – mic drop.

Jim Brickley
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Jim Brickley
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

The ‘Cult’ speaks!

Truth ... A Tough (and sometimes bitter) Pill
Guest
Truth ... A Tough (and sometimes bitter) Pill
3 years ago
Reply to  Jim Brickley

Oh, Jim, can’t refute it, eh? Truth hurts, especially when you realize you’ve been duped.
Trump’s a travesty, but the hypocrisy of the right/left paradigm is a downright TRAGEDY.

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
3 years ago

OK with you KK? I’m certain that Doni and yourself are buddies.

https://anewscafe.com/2020/10/20/redding/despite-covid-rules-bethel-leaders-family-holds-large-wedding-gala/

The Shasta County Super Spreader is Bethel Church of Supernatural Miracles. More than 300 cases in October. The entire County has been moved-up to a higher tier of restrictions because of their righteousness.

My sole point of posting this local story is because, I choose to show, some of the wealthiest, most powerful people in N California are, today, super spreaders. And they brag about it! Follow the link to the entire story.

So yeah, the long-term-effects-of-this-pandemic, are still wildly unmitigated.

Birth defects on the way?

researcher
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researcher
3 years ago

From the article

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/coronavirus-daily-news-updates-october-21-what-to-know-today-about-covid-19-in-the-seattle-area-washington-state-and-the-world/

Virus spikes have officials looking to shore up hospitals

Hospitals across the United States are starting to buckle from a resurgence of COVID-19 cases, with several states setting records for the number of people hospitalized and leaders scrambling to find extra beds and staff. New highs in cases have been reported in states big and small — from Idaho to Ohio — in recent days.

The rise in cases and hospitalizations was alarming to medical experts who see a pattern: First, the number of cases rises, then hospitalizations and finally there are increases in deaths.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  researcher

And all that will happen even if you kill the economy first. Of course it’s alarming. It’s a pandemic. The problem is that your “solutions” (which are pretty non specific and unexamined) are impossible. Difficult in the short term but impossible in the long term. If that makes its advocates feel virtuous… This virus will be around a long time. Better to work on how to deal with it than to waste time on how to avoid it.

researcher
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researcher
3 years ago

same article

Swiss fear rise in COVID-19 cases

The Swiss health minister said coronavirus case counts and hospitalizations were doubling every week, warning of the prospect of overburdened hospitals as Switzerland has gone from one of the least-affected countries in Europe to one of the worst-hit in just three weeks.

Alain Berset made the comments after the country of 8.5 million tallied on Wednesday a record 5,583 new cases over the latest 24 hours, obliterating the previous one-day record — set two days earlier — by about 14%.

“The situation is worsening, and worsening fast,” Berset told a news conference in Bern, the capital.

researcher
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researcher
3 years ago

The mouthwash study was bs. Not even about covid. From…

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/21/world/covid-19-coronavirus-updates

No, mouthwash will not save you from the coronavirus, despite that study going around.

A rash of provocative headlines this week flooded social media platforms with a tantalizing idea: that mouthwash can “inactivate” coronaviruses and help curb their spread.

The idea came from a new study that found that a coronavirus that causes common colds — not the one that causes Covid-19 — could be killed in a laboratory by dousing virus-infected cells with mouthwash.

researcher
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researcher
3 years ago

And today the beat goes on. From

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/live-updates/coronavirus/?id=73730458#73730849

US reports over 60,000 new cases, nearly 1,000 deaths

There were 60,315 new cases of COVID-19 identified in the United States on Tuesday, according to a real-time count kept by Johns Hopkins University.

The latest daily tally is up by almost 2,000 from the previous day but remains under the country’s record set on July 16, when there were 77,255 new cases in a 24-hour-reporting period.

An additional 993 coronavirus-related fatalities were also recorded

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3 years ago

And concerning the theory that the death toll is overinflated. From

https://s2.washingtonpost.com/camp-rw/?trackId=5f7b8830ade4e21e5d55f68e&s=5f8f51699d2fda0efb4fa1c0&linknum=4&linktot=61

The pandemic has led to at least 80,000 more U.S. deaths than the official toll records, according to a report on excess mortality released Tuesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The country’s tally of confirmed coronavirus deaths stood at about 220,000 as of this afternoon. But the CDC analysis found that, by early October, nearly 300,000 more people across the country had died than would be expected in a typical year. The hidden fatalities are believed to be people who died of covid-19 without being diagnosed, or who died of other causes because they were unwilling or unable to seek medical care during the outbreak.

The pandemic’s shadow death toll also includes a surprisingly large number of victims in their 20s, 30s and 40s.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago

Just maybe there is something wrong with the way we think about death.
What happens when we die means different things to different people.

There is what happens to the person that dies.
Then there is how the people left behind react to it.

It seems that many are just plain afraid of it.
Afraid of the unknown.

Yup
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Yup
3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

EGO

Live a little
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3 years ago

99.6% survival rate…..I like my chances. If people have to try to convince me that we’re in the middle of a pandemic….there is no pandemic. Im pretty sure I’d know by dead bodies in the street….or actually knowing someone who died because of it. The fear is bullshit. You want to talk science?? Lets talk about natural selection. Let the weak die. Natures way of weeding out the gene pool.
I work in the public saftey field and have never stopped working. I’ve traveled to different parts of the state. I’ve played basketball indoors with other people. I only wear a mask when I absolutely have to. I’ve literally done everything they told me not to and here I am. Alive. Go outside and see for yourself. The fear mongering is REAL.

Martin
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Martin
3 years ago

I firmly believe the pandemic is going to turn into an endemic that will last for years and years.

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3 years ago

“Health Officer” is just doublespeak for House Arrest Jailor.