[UPDATE 3:06 p.m.: Fortuna Police and Fire Chiefs Deny Charges] Letter Writer Charges that Fortuna Police and Fire Department Participated in Trump Parade

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Jeep with flags getting ready to join Trump parade.

Jeep with flags getting ready to join Trump parade in Fortuna. [Photo provided by parade participant]

I would like to address some important issues surrounding the Trump parade that happened a week or so ago.  I personally am not a Trump supporter but the problem I saw that day was not that.  When the parade went through Fortuna both the Police and Fire department participated in the parade.  They were not just providing safety for the parade (that would have been fine), but they were actively participating in it, driving in the parade, honking and waving flags.  This to me is unacceptable and the city of Fortuna should be ashamed and apologize for allowing it to happen.   Law enforcement should not take sides when it comes to political elections, they are here for ALL people and when they take a side it is basically intimidation.

Political activity and participation is wonderful, PLEASE VOTE!  But our public services should remain unbiased and impartial for all people.  Fortuna City Council should have to answer for allowing  this action to have happened and make sure that something similar doesn’t happen again.

Brooke Entsminger

UPDATE 2:42 p.m.: Fortuna Police Chief Casey Day spoke to us by phone and denied his officers were participating in the parade.

UPDATE 3:06 p.m.: Fortuna Fire Chief Lon Winburn stated, ““The Fortuna Fire Department did not participate in the Trump Parade as previously noted.”

Earlier Chapter: Trumpeting Their Allegiance, a Caravan of Supporters Traveled From Fortuna to McKinleyville Yesterday

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Puest
Puest
1 year ago

If Police & Fire were participating in uniform that would be a VERY LARGE PROBLEM, indeed!!!

Rio
Rio
1 year ago
Reply to  Puest

Sorry I didn’t read your whole story or whatever you call that babble. I’ve been a lifelong outlaw support the blue line thin blue line because of people like you who probably call them every week for some stupid reason. I’ve never called them once in my life and probably never will. But I support them 100%, [edit]

Slippery Slope
Slippery Slope
1 year ago
Reply to  Puest

@ puest
But it’s okay if there’s a lgbtq parade and they wrap themselves in rainbows, right?

Or a BLM event and they wear a signifying ornament thereto?

Hmmmmm?

When’s it okay?

Never? Fine. Then make it NEVER.

Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Puest

SHOW US THE VIDEO OR SHUT THE HELL UP!!!

R David Franceschi
1 year ago
Reply to  Puest

No different than organizations, police, fire, or any other public entity endorsing a candidate on TV!!!

Bobo
Bobo
1 year ago

Dear Karen
So what, Trump supports them, Others do not.

onlooker
onlooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Bobo

Dear Bobo, you realize, do you not, that the prototypical “Karen” supports the orange excresence. Right?

Cordwainer Bird
Cordwainer Bird
1 year ago
Reply to  onlooker

Dear onlooker,

Despite what you may think, Karens are not determined by their political preference, but rather by their behavior. Specifically by their propensity to trip out about anything and everything that may or may not conflict with their opinions, morals, passing thoughts, etc.

Karen is an inclusive term. Karens come in all shapes, sizes, colors, genders, sexual orientations, religious beliefs, and political affiliations. So please stop trying to politicize Karen, because that’s something that only a Karen would do, Karen.

Sincerely,
Cordwainer Bird

P.S. The letter writer in this case is most definitely a Karen.

WJ
WJ
1 year ago

It’s appropriate to be bothered by law enforcement officers participating in a political event while in uniform, if what the letter writer says is true. Tossing an insult around to dismiss that concern falls flat.

Burnt Roach (new handle)
Burnt Roach (new handle)
1 year ago
Reply to  WJ

If it is indeed true that LEO’s were in the parade, there should be numerous videos of it taken by the people watching the parade. Everyone these days, except me, have phones that take photos or videos. Where are they? Someone post it.

Good post WJ

Sunday Driver
Sunday Driver
1 year ago

Click the link above and watch the [email protected] 5:35 and 15:04.
Use freeze frame.🙂.
Hint, Exempt Plate #1646378 and CalFire Engine 5336. (No Unit identifier)
Mono -San Bernardino County additional resource engine from Running Springs, near as I can tell.
No telling if either one was from Fortuna, but possible.

Diane
Diane
1 year ago
Reply to  Sunday Driver

so, a vehicle driving down a multi lane state owned highway is immediately considered part of the parade or a Trump supporter. If that’s the case, then every vehicle on the highway that day at that specific time is a supporter? Even the ones that were flying their finger, yelling obscenities, shooting paintballs, jumping on vehicles and tearing off the flags. No word of those people, huh?

Local Farmer
Local Farmer
1 year ago
Reply to  WJ

I triple support WJ

It’s not being a Karen to take issue with our police and fire chiefs being in a Trump parade. Did anybody else see them in the parade?

Diane
Diane
1 year ago
Reply to  Local Farmer

only those that weren’t there. It amazes me how some have run with this letter to the editor as gospel. I doubt if she was even there. The FPD says it’s not true, the 300+ cars, the 600+ participants and the many, many spectators say it’t not true but yet they want to believe what ONE woman says without any proof. Sure the FPD were driving around in THEIR town, keeping an eye on things, making sure there wasn’t any problems with traffic or protesters. And yes, there may have been a fire engine drive down the highway. But were they involved in the parade? NO. This letter to the editor is presented for one thing and one thing only. To say “Police Bad, Trump Bad, Trump Supporters Bad”.

Bigmeat707
Bigmeat707
1 year ago

Best comment ever

Daddy
Daddy
1 year ago
Reply to  onlooker

The true Karens are the ones who whine about you not wearing a mask and being a garbage person liberal.

Christopher
Christopher
1 year ago
Reply to  Daddy

It is wrong for anybody to use the name Karen like that, there are people who’s actual birth name is Karen, and they don’t deserve their name to be turned into an insult. 2020 has been a tough year, and especially for anyone who’s name is actually Karen

Wdonnell
Wdonnell
1 year ago
Reply to  Bobo

Exactly!!!

Denise
Denise
1 year ago
Reply to  Bobo

If Trump is pro police than why would he suggest a police cut in his 2019 budget proposel.

Marc
Marc
1 year ago

It isn’t right but I don’t doubt it for a second.

stuber
stuber
1 year ago

Intimidating? We love our police participating in peaceful parades. Better than them having to deal with the antifa and anarchist assholes who have hurt so many people and their businesses and homes. Joe Biden said antifa was just an idea. What an idiot. Thats why not one police organization in America will endorse the Chinese puppet. We would loose all respect to anyone in Fortunas govt if they apologized, and instead we would love to see them come in support of them.

Legallettuce
Legallettuce
1 year ago
Reply to  stuber

ANTIFA are the people who stormed the beaches of Normandy. The people who fought during WWII in Italy and Captain America the true ANTIFA leader. It’s a joke against how the right has been blinded to believe a threat that does not exist by saying we are against Facisim. It’s literally just a Facebook post and that is all.

The People protesting are Americans exercising their constitutional rights. They are acting and behaving like Americans. If you cannot recognize this it usually because you have Facists tendencies. As far as killing, rioting and mayhem during protest the same occurs when a sports teams loses or wins a championship in the USA. This all occurs because of poor leadership. Trump, who has proven his Facists beliefs when he dispersed peaceful protest to take a photo op in front of a church while awkwardly holding a book of other lies (the bible). The most Un-American moment in the history of the United States by a sitting president.

Entering a World of Pain
Entering a World of Pain
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Yep. And thanks

Bobo
Bobo
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Call antifa mostly peaceful is like saying 9-11 was mostly peaceful

Legallettuce
Legallettuce
1 year ago
Reply to  Bobo

ANTIFA is a joke to feed the right wing media. We the so called “ANTIFA” are laughing our asses off every time anything is referred to a Facebook posts being thought of as a terrorists organization. Its called humor.

Lone Ranger
Lone Ranger
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Its good entertainment watching people freak out over who is president. He has little control over anyones life ,friggin hilarious, riot on ,good luck . Peace out

Just sayin
Just sayin
1 year ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Best comment EVER

kimberly goodrich
1 year ago
Reply to  Bobo

Boom!!!

Trump Tales Are The Tallest.
Trump Tales Are The Tallest.
1 year ago
Reply to  Bobo

Or like saying Osama bin Laden niece supports Trump.

Or like Trump saying, Now my building is “The Tallest.”

Just like every tale he’s ever told.

onrust
onrust
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Thanks. You saved me from having to respond to the bullshit put out by Stuber. I don’t mind that people have their heads up their asses, but it offends me when they are proud of it.

Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  onrust

SHOW US THE VIDEO !!!

Made You Look!
Made You Look!
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Just click above and watch it.
Then look for the guy with his headlight out. And see if 5336 is covering Fortuna.

lol no
lol no
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

The current members of ANTIFA have absolutely NOTHING to do with soldiers who fought in WWII. In fact by using violence to prevent others from speaking, they disgrace those soldiers, as freedom of speech is an essential American value.

We don’t support rioting or sport teams wins/losses either. Not that the phenomenon of riots e have been seeing can honestly be compared.

I hate tRump but if the best evidence of fascism you have is moving protesters for a press opportunity then you have a pathetic case.

Legallettuce
Legallettuce
1 year ago
Reply to  lol no

ZERO members in ANTIFA. It is a Facebook page written by a 20 year old. Oops sorry ANTIFA has one member Captain America.

The People who fought in WWII for the allies were all anti-facists what we call ANTIFA today. Theirs a book called HISTORY of America it’s all in there all the proof that ANTIFA exists it’s taught to every child in the USA from grade 5 through 12.

Rose
Rose
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Exactly legallettuce

Daddy
Daddy
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Both epically stupid and wrong. Patriots stormed the beaches fighting Democratic Socialists. (Nazis are literally the National Democratic Socialist Party of Germany).

There isn’t a single thing the modern Democratic Party doesn’t agree with the Nazis on, including the anti-semitism of “The Squad”, Governor Cuomo and the like.

Local Farmer
Local Farmer
1 year ago
Reply to  Daddy

🙄are you fucking serious! Lamest comment I ever heard and I’m not a Democrat!

Lois
Lois
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

My dad was ANTIFA in WW2. He received a Purple Heart for fighting the Fascists at the Battle of the Bulge.

Smoking
Smoking
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Legallettuce, I’ll smoke what you’re saying.

In my 1911 I trust
In my 1911 I trust
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

You are stretching so hard its ridiculous. It is harvest season though, so I figure you may be a little stressed out and probably have a case of the maranoias, but ANTIFA is not what the patriots who stormed the beaches of Normandy called themselves. They called themselves Marines. If my Great Grandpas, Grandpa, Uncles, and the rest of my family who serves heard you calling Marines and American soldiers ANTIFA, boy you would be in for it big time. As for me, I’ll let it pass this time, cause I know the area and the culture here, as well as what time of year it is, and I’ll just chalk it up to a case of the maranoias and you posting around 4:20.

Local Farmer
Local Farmer
1 year ago

they were fighting a war against fascist pigs. They were antifascists. You going to flap there on grandaddys marine coattails with your fake outrage?!?

If you’re against fascism you’re an antifascist…. get it????

In my 1911 I trust
In my 1911 I trust
1 year ago
Reply to  Local Farmer

They didn’t label themselves ANTIFA, they were marines, every single one of them. Considering what that label has come to mean and represent, no they weren’t. Don’t label me or my family either, be grateful we all put our lives on the line for this country and for you. Don’t label us something we aren’t, USMC thats all there is to it. [edit] I said I would give it a pass because I am the only one any of you on this comment section would ever run into in the hills or store. So I’ll let it pass, but its pretty damn offensive and wrong.

Marc
Marc
1 year ago

No, they called themselves soldiers; the marines did not land on the beaches of Normandy! Hooah!

https://www.nationalreview.com/2004/06/rivalry-normandy-w-thomas-smith-jr/

Death by Statistics
Death by Statistics
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Who is funding these independent minded people?

There’s a big difference between paid protesters, receiving pallets of bricks, and organic opposition to a real societal crisis.

Civil rights, Vietnam, those people were justified in challenging the status quo.

These new batch are absolutely engaging in subversive and well funded destructive behavior.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/05/opinion/socialism-capitalism.html

rollin
rollin
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

“ANTIFA are the people who stormed the beaches of Normandy”

Quite possibly the stupidest comment ever posted on RHBB. Lay off the dope. A bunch of soy boy college idiots with skinny jeans, who hate this country, shouting down anyone who disagrees with them and destroying everything in sight that real men created is hardly compatible with the men who stormed the beaches at Normandy.

“As far as killing, rioting and mayhem during protest the same occurs when a sports teams loses or wins a championship in the USA”

Uhhhh, no it doesn’t, obviously. And on the raaaare occasion that it does, it doesn’t go on for six months. And no you don’t have a constitutional right to destroy people’s shit. And no it’s not American to riot in the streets and silence anyone who disagrees with you just because you’re a liberal douchebag, incapable of winning an argument.

“This all occurs because of poor leadership”

You got that part right. EVERY place this is occurring is run by democrats.

The fascists of the future will call themselves anti fascists. The future is here.

Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  rollin

“The fascists of the future will call themselves anti fascists. The future is here.” Any group who advocates using violence for political ends is always going to be fascist the minute they gain any power to enforce their agenda. Anyone who excuses violence and intimidation by saying the ends justify the means is constitutionally incapable of noticing that they are what they claim to hate. “Facilis descensus Averno (the descent to hell is easy)”

Just me
Just me
1 year ago
Reply to  stuber

Stuber it is COMPLETELY UNETHICAL

Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Just me

Ethics seem to be in short supply in the world at the moment. Hardly anyone commenting here worries about about their own behavior at all yet that does not stop them from overreacting other’s behavior.

kimberly goodrich
1 year ago
Reply to  stuber

Nailed it : )

Alf
Alf
1 year ago

Makes perfect sense to bring attention to the fact that the Demonocrats, alias rioters, anti first responder, defund police would be offended by those they hate rallying to support the one who supports them. It’s not all about politics. Some of it is love versus hate and the Demonocrats are clearly the haters in this case. Suck it up.

Nikki
Nikki
1 year ago
Reply to  Alf

You are so wrong it’s sick! Stop the hate

Bobo
Bobo
1 year ago
Reply to  Alf

Remember, If the candidate is blue then the accusations are not true.

kimberly goodrich
1 year ago
Reply to  Alf

True

Marc
Marc
1 year ago
Reply to  Alf

And you don’t see any hate in your vitriolic post? The problem today is people thinking everyone else with a different opinion is wrong.

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

I am ANTI FAscist, are you?

Lone Ranger
Lone Ranger
1 year ago
Reply to  Marc

You just described the far right and the far left . This election is going to beat out the Bachelorette in ratings over the next couple of months, this is awesome no matter who wins. Can’t wait to see the crybabies throw a tantrum second week of November. I let my 3yr old grandkid fill out my ballot, we flip a coin.

Marc
Marc
1 year ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Yes, I did! I’m glad I’m not the only one that feels that way.

rollin
rollin
1 year ago
Reply to  Marc

“forcible suppression of opposition”

You mean like college campuses disallowing anyone on the right to speak, or BLM intimidating innocent white people eating dinner, or ANTIFA beating people with differing opinions? All actions of the left.

“strong regimentation of society and of the economy”

You mean like confiscation of wealth, nationalizing health care and education, universal basic income? All tenets of the left.

“I am ANTI FAscist, are you?”

If you are Antifa you ARE a fascist.

Geist
Geist
1 year ago
Reply to  rollin

The hyper-ritch have spent the last fourty years confiscating the wealth of the middle and lower classes. When FDR instituted the socialist wealth redistribution schemes of the New Deal, he didn’t destroy capitalism or democracy, he saved them.

Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Geist

Yet, despite FDR the Savior of America, here you are, complaining about the same things as if nothing changed. And still not questioning why…

Seymourebutz
Seymourebutz
1 year ago
Reply to  Alf

Sounds like some one born & raised in the
backwards state!

Guess which one?
Guess which one?
1 year ago

The majority of Law enforcement in this country already endorsed one of the candidates through their unions and associations, guess which one? Let me help, it’s not the one the teachers unions and associations favor publicly.
Sadly, having a Trump sticker on your car in Humboldt welcomes keying or a broken window.

Ashamed of our community
Ashamed of our community
1 year ago

So true! It is despicable that we can’t publicly display our support for our president without fear of being vandalized or attacked!

Thirdeye
Thirdeye
1 year ago

As I was out walking yesterday I saw a couple of cars with Trump signs and flags. One was a cool 1957 Ford with a retractable hardtop that I see around town occasionally.

In Seattle there was a drive-by shooting of a house that had a back the blue flag in front, not even a Trump flag. In Portland, the Heroes Cafe had windows broken and shot because the owner is known to be pro-police.

Marc
Marc
1 year ago

And in other parts of the country having a Biden sticker leads to intimidation, vandalism and arson.

Thirdeye
Thirdeye
1 year ago
Reply to  Marc

Could you please be more specific? News reports? Or are you just making that up as a deflection?

Skitty
Skitty
1 year ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

My god. Google it. Both sides have had signs stolen vandalized. Do you really think no Biden supporters have felt intimidated during this election cycle? I was reading about a Biden supporter in Texas maybe 3 days ago, that had their sign stolen 3 different times. Does any of that really matter? Hell over the years lots of local elections have had signs vandalized.

Marc
Marc
1 year ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

No, not making it up. Feel free to look it up yourself and fact check me.

Diane
Diane
1 year ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

Exactly. Show me a business that has been destroyed on the simple fact that they are a Biden supporter.

Diane
Diane
1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I agree, it is wrong. I don’t promote any form of violence. As bad as that is, it’s not something you hear of everyday. A Trump bumper sticker is an invitation to a scractched vehicle, a Trump sign is an invitation to have it stolen are some type of destruction, large or small, to your house. Trump clothing is an invitation to be called names and spit on. If the left are so caring, loving, tolerant as they claim then why can’t they just turn away. Fortunately, I have had nothing but positive comments on my Trump gear and would have absolutley no problem with someone sporting their Biden gear. I never feel the need to call them names or flip them off.

Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Wow! What a concept! That political alignment doesn’t confer sainthood! You mean that those who claim to be unbiased should avoid the appearance partisanship if they want to be believed? What’s sauce for the police is sauce for the news reporter?

rollin
rollin
1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

“I have this off the top of my head”

Seriously?

doasyouplease
doasyouplease
1 year ago

Law enforcement can support whomever they want. They have the same rights as all other Americans. If anything people in this country should show support no matter the politician. If you remember correctly, this was a show of support for the president who contracted COVID-19. If any other president was in office, citizens would show the same support as these fine Americans did for the current president. Furthermore, this letter is just a letter.

Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  doasyouplease

No they can’t. While in uniform they are representing the entire department, and possibly their Union. Also, I believe as an employee of the city of Fortuna, you sign a document that you promise to behave in a professional manner as not to embarrass or hurt the image of the city. But of course look at the many city employees who have been arrested for DUI’s who kept their jobs.

Willie Bray
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

🕯🌳Finally the common sense statement.

Thirdeye
Thirdeye
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Off-duty police officers have the same right to express political opinions as everyone else.

Willie Bray
1 year ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

🕯🌳There uniforms and vehicles are never off duty.

Nicholaus M.
Nicholaus M.
1 year ago

It does not surprise me at all that police and fire fighters would participate in a parade celebrating our President. He openly supports them, unlike the majority of Democrats which are calling for their defunding/ abolishment. No one has any problems politicians saying they are supported by this sheriff, that sheriff, etc, etc. But it hurts your feelings because they wave an American flag and support our current president Yeah? Yeah they support Trump, he supports them. Get over it. Want them to be in your parade? Then maybe try supporting or men & women that come to your aid when no one else will.

Nikki
Nikki
1 year ago
Reply to  Nicholaus M.

Stop helping the dividing of this country… I’m sick and tired of you people always on about them verses us shit … It’s so elementary school it’s pathetic! KNOCK IT OFF

dude
dude
1 year ago
Reply to  Nicholaus M.

Who’s trying to defund the fire departments?

kimberly goodrich
1 year ago
Reply to  Nicholaus M.

Excellent comment.

Marc
Marc
1 year ago
Reply to  Nicholaus M.

There is a difference between supporting and pandering. I support law enforcement, but I also know they abuse their power far too often.

Eldon Whitehead
Eldon Whitehead
1 year ago

YEAAAAAAAAA FOR THE FORTUNA POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS IF THEY DID PARTICIPATE IN THE PARADE AND THE ONE COMING UP IN NOVEMBER. MY VIEW POINT ON THIS IS IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT, MOVE TO CHINA OR RUSSIA, THEY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE AH’S LIKE YOU TO COME AND JOIN THEM. I’LL EVEN KICK IN A DIME TO HELP YOU GET THERE. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR STUPIDITY, BUT, I DON’T THINK THAT IS REALLY NEEDED HERE AS YOU HAVE ALREADY SHOWN IT. KISS OFF AH.

Fortuna guest
Fortuna guest
1 year ago

Right on Eldon! I can’t believe this women even wrote such a stupid letter. I hope the police and fire are out on the next rally in support of our president and our country as they should be. Go trump 2020.

kimberly goodrich
1 year ago
Reply to  Fortuna guest

: )))

Marc
Marc
1 year ago
Reply to  Fortuna guest

Your mistake is thinking that if a person does not support Trump or law enforcement abuses then they don’t support America. As a never Trumper from the 1980’s, a combat vet and having served in multiple hurricane relief efforts in the Army and Army NG, I can assure you I support the constitution, but neither the president, LE, not even the flag are equivalent to the constitution.

Now, as a supporter of Trump and the country, how have you served the people of the United States? It’s not too late; volunteer today to help those less fortunate and let’s really make America great.

Lone Ranger
Lone Ranger
1 year ago
Reply to  Marc

Some of us don’t bragg about what we’ve accomplished. We support our local community anonymously. But good job Marc ,all that matters is you feel good.

Marc
Marc
1 year ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Yes, but many don’t do anything for our country, yet claim they support it more than others. I’m not looking for any praise, but I can’t make my point that just because someone does not support Trump it doesn’t mean they hate America without giving a real life example.

Diane
Diane
1 year ago
Reply to  Marc

thank you for your service and support, Marc. One has to have accomplishes in order to brag about them Lone Ranger. Yet I don’t believe Marc was bragging. Just making a statement.

Skitty
Skitty
1 year ago
Reply to  Fortuna guest

Go Biden 2020

Stephen simpson
Stephen simpson
1 year ago

Why can’t the police support the same people that support them? Isn’t there any sense of freedom in this country or do men and women have to put there rights aside when protecting others? Come on kymkemp. You might lose a lot of support yourself for suggesting anyone in America can’t have the freedom to support the president of united States of America

Diane
Diane
1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

maybe a statement debunking her accusations ?? The FPD says it’s not true as many of the attendees, participants, bystanders. Yet this one letter has run amuck because a percentage of your readers read only the headline then refuse to listen to the facts.

Marc
Marc
1 year ago
Reply to  Diane

Clinton denied any sexual contact with Monica Lewinsky and we all know how that turned out. There has been absolutely no evidence provided that it did not occur, but at least one eyewitness statement in these comments saying it did. Now, how biased would Kym be if she debunked it only because of public pressure?

I do not know if it happened or not, but until there is proof positive one way or the other then, as we all learned from Sheldon Cooper, it’s Schrödinger’s cat.

Entering a World of Pain
Entering a World of Pain
1 year ago

All proud residents of Fortucky should fight for your independence, succeed and join Texas

Legallettuce
Legallettuce
1 year ago

The Nazis’s paraded with flags. The Nazi’s accused the press of bias. The Nazi’s wore armbands (not hats). The Nazi’s promised to make Germany great again. Nazi’s blamed Jews like Trump blames immigrants. Nazi’s ignored the rule of law. Nazi’s ignored science and referred to experts. Nazis used racism to divide. Who should move to China or Russia the people acting like Nazi’s or the people not acting like Nazi’s? [edit]

Bobo
Bobo
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

And Nazis have the press in our county also

Legallettuce
Legallettuce
1 year ago
Reply to  Bobo

You read my words wrong. Nazis accused the press of bias. Keywords here are Nazi and bias. Look up both words and try again and next time do not try and make yourself look like a Nazi and be more American.

Marc
Marc
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Legal lettuce for the win!

Lone Ranger
Lone Ranger
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

I think the press does a good job of bashing Trump and Biden, both are proven liars but people seem to defend both, not sure why. Maybe liars stick together.

Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Just not the same press.

Standing By
Standing By
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Just say when

Lone Ranger
Lone Ranger
1 year ago
Reply to  Standing By

Corporate world only getting bigger , better move your head of lettuce somewhere else .

hmm
hmm
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

“Nazi’s blamed Jews like Trump blames immigrants.”

That has to be one of the most ignorant, incorrect and offensive comments ever made here.

“Nazi’s ignored science and referred to experts.”

No, actually the regime embraced science and the US benefited greatly from importing German scientist in operation paperclip.

The left today is also driving division with their racism. I belie both sides are well intentioned, and woefully misguided.

Legallettuce
Legallettuce
1 year ago
Reply to  hmm

School is where you educate yourself and my comments are on point. You choose to add more depth than pay attention to the words. Nazis blamed the Jews for all their issues. Trump blames illegal immigrants for our issues. That is a correct statement that can be quoted a thousand times from Trump’s own speeches like the one he gave in Arizonia.

Nazis ignored science, yes, how the hell did Oppenheimer get to America “cause he was imported” get the fuck some knowledge he was pushed out like all the other scientist including Einstein because of the Nazi’s. lol, imported, what the hell kinda teachings did you learn and where? Are you a millenial?

Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

“Oppenheimer was born on April 22, 1904, in New York City, to German Jewish immigrants. ” https://www.biography.com/scientist/j-robert-oppenheimer

And yes, the US did “import” much scientific expertise as hmm said. “By the fall of 1945, German scientists starting arriving on U.S. soil. Not all the men recruited were Nazis or SS officers but the most prominent and valued among them were, having worked either directly with Hitler or leading members of the Nazi Party, such as Heinrich Himmler and Herman Göring. ” https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/16/fact-check-nazi-scientists-brought-u-s-operation-paperclip/5690870002/

“At the end of the war, the United States had entered the field of guided missiles with practically no previous experience. The technical competence of Braun’s group was outstanding. “After all,” he said, “if we are good, it’s because we’ve had 15 more years of experience in making mistakes and learning from them!””
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Wernher-von-Braun#:~:text=Wernher%20von%20Braun%2C%20with%20a%20Saturn%201B%20launch,D.C.%20%2C%20as%20deputy%20associate%20administrator%20for%20planning.

The US got to the moon starting with work from Nazi Scientists. But so did the Soviets hope to. And others.

Ashamed of our community
Ashamed of our community
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Legallettuce Sounds like you just described the Democratic Party perfectly.

Legallettuce
Legallettuce
1 year ago

Yea that Biden Parade and Biden armbands and ya know sleepy Joe accusing the media of bias and not believing in the science of masks.

Nazi zealots did not think they were zealots until surrounded in Berlin by Communist Russia. Enjoy your Berlin.

Local Farmer
Local Farmer
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

good point lettuce. The Russian communists are the ones who took Hitler down. Antifascist communists.

Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Local Farmer

Skipping a bit of history there. Stalin made a non aggression pact with Hitler. There might not even have been a WWII if the communists didn’t get into bed with Hitler. “So sudden was the thaw between the strange bedfellows that the five swastika flags rushed to the airport to greet Ribbentrop upon his arrival had to be taken from Soviet movie studios producing anti-Nazi propaganda films.” https://www.history.com/news/the-secret-hitler-stalin-nonagression-pact

Of course you can repeat the old disavowal that true communists “didn’t like him either.” That is always the rationale of identity politics: “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” leads to no good place.

Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Saying biased things in 180 degrees from someone else’s biased statements is not being unbiased. It is just being differently biased. Pol Pot- that awful murderous representative of socialism- paraded with armbands and flags too. “To his supporters, he was a champion of Cambodian sovereignty in the face of Vietnamese imperialism and stood against the Marxist revisionism of the Soviet Union. ”
As did Maoist China, Castro’s Cuba, Pinochet’s Chile and every other authoritarian group ever trying to force their agenda on others. And Antifa is going down the same route. No group willing to use violence ever turns back.

In my 1911 I trust
In my 1911 I trust
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Well thats an easy one to answer. Especially from a historical point of view. The people who aren’t Nazis go to Russia and China, since historically speaking, Russia and the Nazis were at war, and I don’t think the Nazis would much care to live in a country full of people of Asian decent. Germany is the proper place for Nazis to go, back to where they came from. If you are actually talking about backwoods hillbilly racists, then Trinity County, right around Ruth Lake would be perfect.

Diane
Diane
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

if you truly had any knowledge of the Nazi’s and the Nazi regime you may learn something. You would see the parallel with the Democratic party. Talk to someone in person that was in Nazi Germany or England. Let them tell you what was happening. Let them tell you the details and the process. Even non-Trumpers that know the FACTS regarding Nazi’s will tell you that you are only spewing uneducated, non-factual hate.

Pike Mortar
Pike Mortar
1 year ago

Let’s see a picture or video. If there was such participation, you know damn well that someone along the way who got butt hurt would have grabbed a cell phone image. No image exists, eh? Then I call BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!

onrust
onrust
1 year ago
Reply to  Pike Mortar

Pike – Images are easy. I make them up all the time. All you need is some pictures, a computer and some software. It’s a lot like believing what one reads.

Enough already
Enough already
1 year ago
Reply to  Pike Mortar

If you remember when this parade took place there was a post questioning Kim’s posting on RHBB. That guy claimed he had video of this group spinning donuts in Arcata while displaying whitesupremacy signs, holding up beer cans, and flipping the finger to everyone. He claimed 7 of them were stopped by EPD for “exhibition of speed”. He claimed the video was in the hands of APD at the time. Video never appeared. And if he took the video on phone he would have a copy on the phone. APD nor EPD never reported a complaint matching his claims. Now a letter claims Fortuna Fire and Police participated in this parade but offers nothing other than saying they drove in the parade and waved flags (which waving the flag might appear as participation), if she feels so upset after “a week or so”, why is she posting here rather than taking her complaint to Fortuna PD, City of Fortuna City Council, or the Mayor. They can do a lot more that a bunch of fustrated trolls on a blog. I don’t care for politics and have even less trust in either of these political parties. It is time to quit… Read more »

Rod Gass
Rod Gass
1 year ago
Reply to  Enough already

Good Point Already,

One of the Constitution’s Framers warned in very strong language, “Never allow the 2 or more party system to take over the electorate.” Why?

A single party system interfaces smoothly with the intentions of the Constitution. Anything else is designed to disrupt that system. We didn’t pay attention and now look at what we deal with.

We can barely, and I do mean barely, hold a civil, valid, competent Presidential election. The 2 party system serves the aristocrats. Our Constitution protects the People.

Hyper Observant.
Hyper Observant.
1 year ago
Reply to  Pike Mortar

Hey Pike Mortar, If you happen to know the guy that driving the solid black SUV with full tinted windows, dual spotlights, and California Exempt Plate Number 1546378 during the parade video @ 5:35 in the number one lane, on a Sunday, Oct. 4, 2020, you might want to tell him he’s got a headlight out on the passenger side before he doesn’t get pulled over and doesn’t get a ticket. That’s a traffic violation.😉. So I’m just wondering if the guy was off duty, on his own time, or if he was on duty making double time on a Sunday? And was he just coincidentally there or if he was actually participating in the parade? And if he was on duty conducting legit business, what that might be on a Sunday? No, it wasn’t sporting a banner or anything, but I’m pretty sure that was a Company Car let’s say, probably LE and a High Mucky Muck Big Wig, to boot. And I don’t really care about cops flying colors on duty or in an official vehicle as long as its the US Flag or the State Flag. And off duty, they are free to do whatever they choose.… Read more »

In my 1911 I trust
In my 1911 I trust
1 year ago

Police cars and fire trucks are allowed to drive on the road. That road also happens to be hwy 101. The police car was unmarked and didn’t have a Trump or American flag. Same with the fire engine. Also emergency services work 24hrs/day 7 day/week. Does anyone have video of them leaving with the parade from Fortuna? That would settle everything, I’m guessing no one does.

Yellowrose
Yellowrose
1 year ago

If this is true you want people to believe that not one person took a picture or video. You are full of BS. Prove it show pic or video. Just your words mean nothing.

707redhead
1 year ago

I am curious if this is the same KAREN that called the cops because she was offended that someone drove though town with a big proTrump flag flying from their truck? The lady wanted to know if it was legal or not cuz she was offended!! Really, lady? I am offended that she wasted the taxpayers money, the dispatchers time and the cops time because she was offended by a fricking flag. I swear this country has more and more little whinebags in it every day. All these Karens need to put their big girl panties on and suck it up buttercup…

lol ok
lol ok
1 year ago
Reply to  707redhead

Your reading comprehension is awful!

HotCoffee
HotCoffee
1 year ago

Letter writer….

Please find something to do with your life!

Rate importance scale 1 to 10 1 being important

-10

Shouldn’t you be thanking the FD after all these fires instead of whining.

JustWantToHeartheEndoftheStory
JustWantToHeartheEndoftheStory
1 year ago

The complainant was, apparently, incorrect in her assertion that the PD and FD participated, is there any video evidence to support her allegations? Any? No? Then let it go, we have more important things to worry about…

Willie Bray
1 year ago

🕯🌳Probably so but being a Fortuna citizen I’m an eye witness.

Marc
Marc
1 year ago
Reply to  Willie Bray

An eyewitness to what? Are you confirming the letter writer’s claim, or disputing it? I am not trying to be argumentative or rude, but just looking for clarification to understand if this actually occurred, as I do agree that someone likely would have video or photos.

Willie Bray
1 year ago
Reply to  Marc

🕯🌳Confirming. 👍🏽👍🏽

Mike
Mike
1 year ago

Oh, is someone upset that the police aren’t supporting the defund the police side? There’s a shocker, who could of guessed….

lauracooskey
lauracooskey
1 year ago

I don’t see mentioned a fact important to the discussion.

Were the police and fire dept. people wearing uniforms and/or otherwise displaying their membership (driving squad cars or firetrucks, for instance) in those professions, making it look like those agencies were officially involved?

Or not?

William Staples
William Staples
1 year ago

I’m here just for the comments..🙂

Casey
Casey
1 year ago

No red or blue lights on top of that Jeep. No one driving or riding wearing any type of police or fire regalia. Complaint noted, non actionable. Moving forward with the election.

Dirty
1 year ago

Trump 2020 f…. biden is garbage and you are to in my opinion if you vote for biden

In my 1911 I trust
In my 1911 I trust
1 year ago
Reply to  Dirty

This next election is a test on the intelligence of America. Vote for someone very controversial or vote for someone who has an obviously debilitating mental disorder. Biden has frequently shown that he is far into the progression of Alzheimer’s. Having had a parent with that disease, it has become increasingly easy to spot. Our only choice is Trump, to vote otherwise is to vote for the complete unknown. The complete unknown being who replaces Biden if he becomes President. Nancy is just drooling over the mail in vote though, if the votes aren’t finished being counted by the time the next President starts his term, Nancy will get to sit in for the time being, think on that one.

Rod Gass
Rod Gass
1 year ago

No I think you’re incorrect. 1911.

The vice president Pence will take over until the election is official. It could take up to 4 years to settle. I could be wrong though.

I can’t believe that our constitution would make a Pelosi mistake.

In my 1911 I trust
In my 1911 I trust
1 year ago
Reply to  Rod Gass

It unfortunately may be truth from what I can gather. The presidency is a vote for both the president and vice president. If Trump is not re-elected, which he can’t be if the vote isn’t counted by the day he is supposed to take office, then neither is Pence. Same with Biden, he can’t take the presidency if the vote isn’t finished being counted by the day he is supposed to take office. Naturally the seat of the presidency will fall to the next in line until the vote has finished being counted. The next in line for presidency is the Speaker of the House and that seat is currently held by Nancy Pelosi. That is what I have been able to gather from piecing together bits of information but I can’t find anything that states it outright. On January 3rd the House elects a new speaker so that is subject to change. The thing is, the house can elect anyone to be Speaker since the Constitution does not require the Speaker to be a member of Congress. Pretty much if the vote isn’t decided by noon on January 20, 2021 then President Trump’s term has ended as mandated by… Read more »

Rod Gass
Rod Gass
1 year ago

Opinion,

The presidency is formally handed over to the newly elected president, it never stands in limbo, somebody is continuously the commander in chief.

If Pence is in charge, then Pelosi can’t be. I think Pence remains in charge and Trump gets discharged if an election is invalid. Trump can’t hang on to an invalid election. There’s got to be somebody on here who can sort this one out.

It doesn’t make sense to me that, Pelosi could assume the Presidency while Pence is alive, even in the event of an invalid election.

HotCoffee
HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Rod Gass

Wouldn’t it go to the Supreme Court like Bush Gore?

In my 1911 I trust
In my 1911 I trust
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Ok so I think I have pieced together something. Its from a couple things from the Presidential Succession Act and from the “Catastrophic Circumstances” provision in house rules. November 3, 2020, Election Day. December 8, 2020, resolving election disputes. December 14, 2020, electors cast ballots. December 23, 2020, president of the Senate receives electors’ ballots. January 3, 2021, House elects the speaker. January 6, 2021, joint session of Congress counts electoral votes January 20, 2021, new President is inaugurated All of this stuff depends everyone meeting these deadlines. The 20th Amendment and its implementing legislation, the Presidential Succession Act and House rules, start coming into play around January 3, 2021, when the House must have a quorum, 218 members, to do business, i.e. the election of the speaker and the counting of electoral ballots on January 6, 2021. The House will most likely have a quorum (a majority present). The Presidential Succession Act says that if there is no acting President or Vice President then the seat falls to the Speaker of the House and the to the Senate President pro tempor. If it doesn’t have a quorum thats when things get messy, and if the votes haven’t all been… Read more »

Bee
Bee
1 year ago

All the chiefs involved here have denied participation. Unless there’s evidence that they acted improperly, and participation in a partisan political parade would be, I’m willing to take them at their word that their departments did not join the parade.

Norman Spinran
Norman Spinran
1 year ago

Most if not all police departments prohibit their staff from participating in political events while on duty (or in uniform), for good reasons. It is the highest ethical standard that police must remain impartial during conduct of their duties. I’m sure that the vast majority of police would agree with this. Fortuna Police Chief Day and Fire Chief Winburn denied that their members did this. Notice, they DIDN’T say “it doesn’t matter because if we did, there is nothing wrong with that.” Clearly, a Support Trump parade is political, partisan and biased, and it is his supporters’ right to do that, no problem. But, don’t try to pass it off as a non-partisan civic event like an Independence Day parade.

Rod Gass
Rod Gass
1 year ago
Reply to  Norman Spinran

Nope.

Backwards. It was a get well Mr. President parade of support. Don’t twist reality by injecting Independence Day celebrations.

Our current President, constitutionally, is non-political. There’s no allowance by our constitution to express a sitting president as a political candidate for office. He is the office, not the candidate.

Chaos
Chaos
1 year ago

If the post office can endorse a candidate why can’t police?

Norman Spinran
Norman Spinran
1 year ago
Reply to  Chaos

The postal unions and the police unions can endorse. Workers in uniform cannot.

Casey
Casey
1 year ago

Dear Brooke Entsminger,
As you can read the comments about the letter you submitted and the editor decided to publish. You make an unsubstantiated complaint in a political nature of an event covered by free speech. Your complaint does not hold water, merely a personal and political complaint at best. If you have further evidence I as a conservative encourage you to bring it forward to full light.

Rod Gass
Rod Gass
1 year ago
Reply to  Casey

Absolutely, positively correct.

As the letter stands … it’s hate speech. From the left.

Geist
Geist
1 year ago
Reply to  Rod Gass

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatch_Act_of_1939

Is the Hatch Act hate speech, in your opinion?

Rod Gass
Rod Gass
1 year ago
Reply to  Geist

No.

What’s your question?

She’s grand old flag
She’s grand old flag
1 year ago

Was there. Did not happen! Although, had either wanted to join, they would have been welcomed. Don’t fear that which you don’t understand.

Nuttincowboy
Nuttincowboy
1 year ago

Vanilla ISIS on parade.
Proof we have become everything we once feared most.
As much as I miss my Pop, I’m glad he’s not here to see what’s become of this country.
He started his “walk to Berlin” on 7 June, 1944

Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Nuttincowboy

As if being your father’s child means you inherited his honors.

Big Bang
1 year ago

I’m pretty sure there were no rock throwing, window smashing, out of work Starbucks baristas having a four year fucking tantrum at Normandy…

Melinda D
Melinda D
1 year ago

I am going to come out and say this. The person who wrote this opinion piece is lying. They have not provided any proof, nor pictures. This is a day and age where they can take pics. When you comment or give an opinion you can upload a picture. This person is trying to stir up things in this community. I am a person of color myself. I actually watched the parade. I didn’t participate in it just to be clear. I didn’t see any police or firefighter participate in anything. If this person wants to make it an issue, then go on camera with your story, because so will I, if you claim such a story. Unless you have pictures or actual proof, please don’t stir up the community to scare people. There are consequences to people that lie about things like this. You will be called out in our community, especially among my people.

Blue line mom
Blue line mom
1 year ago

Wow !!!! And this is being addressed now ? If you didn’t like it , than don’t watch it !!!! Everyone has the right to free speech, No one should be told who to vote for , ever !!!! I would love to watch Any video showing this kind of actuations!!!! If you don’t have any video or pictures IT Never Happened!!!’n STFU okay 👌🏼
With all the protests are out of control if it’s not one thing it’s always another !!!! 🤦‍♀️

Ann
Ann
1 year ago

For all the white fools busy screaming ANTIFA and communism out their mouths like they literally know no other words, I’ll help you out. Y’all think it’s ok and fine if the law enforcement was, in fact, participating in this parade. I’ll even break it down to tell you the problem with Trump support to most folks, especially minority’s and that Trump means RACIST. I know y’all love to claim you’re not, but so far I’ve yet to encounter any Trump worshippers who aren’t. They’re not fooling anyone but other white folks. Of course anybody who’s lived in the area even a short while, who is not white knows fortuna is infested with these people in law enforcement and everywhere else . ANTIFA is against fascism (again I know the racist dig fascism if they understood the meaning. It’s a big word, l get it) and BLM want black lives to simply matter and get the equal treatment guaranteed by LAW but no, you try to equate it to be equally offensive to Trump. Equally a dangerous. And again question why we think you’re racist. Trump represents hate to the vast majority of folks still grounded in reality. Non whites… Read more »

Rod Gass
Rod Gass
1 year ago
Reply to  Ann

Ann, good job.

You did the opposite of a positive. You wasted a lot of words and only said “I hate whites”

Just can’t think of something nice to write?

In my 1911 I trust
In my 1911 I trust
1 year ago
Reply to  Ann

Waaaaa cry me a river. We’re all humans and we have been killing each other and wrecking each other’s shit since day 1!!!! If you want to stand out from all of humanity then don’t do that stuff. Yes supposed peaceful parades that turn into riots no matter what the reason or cause is falls under the second part of sentence 1. Nobody has any place to talk on racism because even woke people like you insist on dividing people by the color of their skin, as shown in your comment. Thats racism. Some of us don’t wear masks because we literally don’t care. Thats why I don’t wear a mask, I just don’t care, at all. I think its stupid, we are all going to die one day, meanwhile we are wasting precious days hiding from a disease that pales in comparison to anything we have seen from 1970 on back to the beginning of time. If I get sick I won’t go out, thats common courtesy, I also don’t call people out on the color of their skin, thats also common courtesy. You are just running around the same track over and over again condemning racism while making… Read more »

Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Ann

Or nothing said in the above post is justified by anything except blind hatred and self loathing.

FBnative
1 year ago

Another butt hurt leftie! Get over it, you’ll need your energy when Trump is re-elected!

Guest
Guest
1 year ago

White Supremacists and AntiFa are the same stupidity pointed in slightly different directions. If they only could be shut up on an island together to thump chests at only each other, the rest of the world might have some peace to find solutions.

Geist
Geist
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

#enlightenedcentrism

You think rejecting fascism is on equal moral grounds with ethnic cleansing?

Rod Gass
Rod Gass
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Yes.

When I read somebody’s comment that turns racist. That writer is finished, done and looking for a hole to crawl into. None of us like that stuff.

HotCoffee
HotCoffee
1 year ago

Lets see what Joe Biden thinks…..all in 6 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AANuKG9S0&feature=emb_logo

Joe
Joe
1 year ago

Good for them they know who’s the right choice is.hell with you cry babies.more than likely Dems. If it was the other way around you peaple would not be crying…

0% liberal
1 year ago

This proves media is corrupt. 0% liberal.