Ruth Bader Ginsburg: ‘A tireless and resolute champion of justice’

Ruth Bader Ginsburg

Ruth Bader Ginsburg March 15, 1933-September 18, 2020

Today, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg succumbed to a long fight with cancer. Known as a “cautious jurist” and a “moderate” when appointed, she has come to represent the battle of the plucky liberal left holding out against a conservative wave.

Her death so close to the Presidential election in November is likely to generate controversy as it will give President Donald Trump the opportunity to appoint another conservative justice to the Supreme Court.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has already indicated that in spite of denying former President Barak Obama the right to fill an open seat on the Supreme Court in the final year of Obama’s term because voters should have the chance to weigh in on their next Supreme Court justice, that the situation will be different this time and President Trump will be able to appoint a new justice to Ginsburg’s seat.

Press release from the Supreme Court:

Associate Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg died this evening surrounded by her family at her home in Washington, D.C., due to complications of metastatic pancreas cancer. She was 87 years old. Justice Ginsburg was appointed to the Supreme Court by President Clinton in 1993. She was the second woman appointed to the Court and served more than 27 years. She is survived by her two children: Jane Carol Ginsburg (George Spera) and James Steven Ginsburg (Patrice Michaels), four grandchildren: Paul Spera (Francesca Toich), Clara Spera (Rory Boyd), Miranda Ginsburg, Abigail Ginsburg, two step-grandchildren: Harjinder Bedi, Satinder Bedi, and one great-grandchild: Lucrezia Spera. Her husband, Martin David Ginsburg, died in 2010.

Chief Justice John G. Roberts, Jr. said of Justice Ginsburg: “Our Nation has lost a jurist of historic stature. We at the Supreme Court have lost a cherished colleague. Today we mourn, but with confidence that future generations will remember Ruth Bader Ginsburg as we knew her — a tireless and resolute champion of justice.”

Justice Ginsburg was born in Brooklyn, New York, March 15, 1933. She married Martin D. Ginsburg in 1954. She received her B.A. from Cornell University, attended Harvard Law School, and received her LL.B. from Columbia Law School. She served as a law clerk to the Honorable Edmund L. Palmieri, Judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, from 1959–1961. From 1961–1963, she was a research associate and then associate director of the Columbia Law School Project on International Procedure. She was a Professor of Law at Rutgers University School of Law from 1963–1972, and Columbia Law School from 1972–1980, and a fellow at the Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences in Stanford, California from 1977–1978. In 1971, she was instrumental in launching the Women’s Rights Project of the American Civil Liberties Union, and served as the ACLU’s General Counsel from 1973–1980, and on the National Board of Directors from 1974–1980. She was appointed a Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit in 1980. During her more than 40 years as a Judge and a Justice, she was served by 159 law clerks.

While on the Court, the Justice authored My Own Words (2016), a compilation of her speeches and writings.

A private interment service will be held at Arlington National Cemetery.

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researcher
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researcher
3 years ago

I am heart broken. Without a doubt one of the most intelligent, open minded and truth seeking justices we have ever had. I highly recommend seeing the movie just out about her early days ‘On the Basis of Sex’.

Let us not at this moment be concerned with the terrifying political issues at hand but instead send her off with Love and Prayers, remembering all that she has done to bring sanity to an otherwise insane society.

We will miss you with all our hearts, dear beautiful sister Ruth.

Willie Bray
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3 years ago
Reply to  researcher

🕯🌳Well said I’ll second that and add RIP Judge Ginsburg 🛐🕊

Glenn Franco Simmons
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3 years ago
Reply to  researcher

Her lasting legacy will inspire others. She was a fearless, tireless advocate and justice. She is an American hero. A patriot. May Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s memory be a blessing.

Ben Waters
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Ben Waters
3 years ago

But as great as she was, she didn’t know when to retire. Now Moscow Mitch and crew are going to have a field day with this.

Fun with facts!
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Fun with facts!
3 years ago
Reply to  researcher

Yeah, go watch a movie. You suck at research, amigo.

reality
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reality
3 years ago
Reply to  researcher

I was raped when I was 21.

If the lady had became pregnant I would have no rights. If she had wanted a abortion, my child would have been murdered.

Why would my rights end when I was raped?

Why?

Its bad enough that people think “men can’t be raped”.

But to think a person is the age on the Drivers license is not sound science. Your about 9 months older than that. Fact.

She failed to think of men as part of the continuation of life. Oh, I know she didn’t think so. But how she felt and what she did was two different things.

My rapist claimed I entered her home with a gun, which, I didn’t own at the time. As I’d just been raped, was married, young, I was overwhelmed.

So, for all your “me too” and “social justice” people know you’ve hurt people cause you believe what you believe, despite reality.

AClark
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AClark
3 years ago

RIP

Alf
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Alf
3 years ago

She served her Country fearlessly and with all her heart. I disagreed with almost every decision she made on the court, but let it be said she served honorably without waiver.

Glenn Franco Simmons
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3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

Well said.

Fog Dog
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Fog Dog
3 years ago

RIP RBG. You will be missed.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago

Vote vote vote everyone!! “Raking the forest” isn’t the answer!!!

reality
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reality
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

it rained all winter, after 2 dry days, just 2, I wanted to clear area of underbrush, thinking it would be a chore. It went right the f up, thankfully I was prepared and the area was easily contained.

Just 2 dry days.

Back before the Camp fire (that spring) I went South of Redding and then came back up. I remember looking at all those homes with trees right on them and wooden fences right up to them with long long long grass (some dead) in all the fields.

I guess you can deny the science behind fire/fuel/gravity/win, but, Mother Nature doesn’t care how you feel about it.

Small fuel dries quick when the wind blows, add a spark and have a incline and its going to go fast.

Fact.

So, keep those trees/fences/grass right up to your house. Keep thinking somehow being liberal and feeling like its Trumps fault it all burned down is right.

But you’ll find me following science and making sure the landscape around my home is indeed “raked” properly. I believe in science.

R. Hutson
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R. Hutson
3 years ago

Devastating loss.

P*** W***lies
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P*** W***lies
3 years ago

Fuck Cancer.

Fuck metastatic cancer

Fuck pancreatic cancer.

Fuck this economic war on our country.

HOGRANCH
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HOGRANCH
3 years ago
Reply to  P*** W***lies

You aint paying for it.

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago

“… plucky liberal left holding out against a conservative wave.”???

Old Mendo Fart
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Old Mendo Fart
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Thank you Kym. Well said.

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Greedy corporate wave would be accurate. The people generating it are conservatives and liberals. They are Democrats and Republicans. What prominent liberal, or progressive, or Democrat do you think is not beholden to corporate interests? Biden? Harris? Pelosi? Newsome? Anyone? All of Washington is equally in on the charade. Look at the finances of these people. They get rich as hell while “serving”. You think they are all just savvy investors? They are all (or almost all) in bed with corporations.

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Delaware is a home to many, many corporations.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaware_General_Corporation_Law

Who has a strong Delaware tie? Is that person influenced by corporations? Hmm…

Glenn Franco Simmons
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3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

To me, she is an American hero. I don’t have to agree with someone all the time for me to admire them for their actions. Justice Bader Ginsburg leaves a lasting legacy that all Americans should be proud of. She was a pioneer in many respects. May her memory be a blessing.

Sunset
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Sunset
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Trump was elected it is his right and duty to nominate a judge. End of story

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
3 years ago
Reply to  Sunset

Just as it was Obama’s right to nominate a judge.

“The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president.”

McConnell said that nearly 8 months before the 2016 election. So the SCOTUS had only 8 members for longer than that. He wouldn’t even let the Senate consider it.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

Will agenda-ists ever be as honest about the nature of politicians and politics they support as they are dishonest about the nature of those they oppose? ALL successful politicians lie. It’s just people tend to smile indulgently about their own dishonesty while showing exaggerated outrage over their opponents.

“Obama press secretary Josh Earnest Wednesday said the White House’s view of the nomination hasn’t changed. “It’s deeply discouraging how unfairly he has been treated by Republicans in the United States Senate who abdicated their responsibility to give him a hearing and a timely vote,” Earnest said.” https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/09/politics/merrick-garland-supreme-court/index.html

“For some in the party, the problem began before Obama’s nominee even made it to the Senate. The issue was, frankly, with Garland himself. He was too moderate and too boring for some, and he just didn’t excite progressives. “https://www.huffpost.com/entry/democrats-merrick-garland_n_5b33b0efe4b0b5e692f38738

Obama objected then to what he advocates now. Democrats didn’t fight for Obama’s candidate because they were absolutely sure Clinton would win and nominate a more activist liberal to the Supreme Court. The Democrats shot themselves in their own foot because they were the arrogant SOBS they complain about Trump being now. That is politics, Angela, and if it looks like dishonest posturing it’s because it is. All of it.

Guest
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3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Being a political realist is not being dishonest. Politics is not and has never been a moral field of endeavor and it lacks perspective to say so. Democracy is not consistent while republics are. But neither is inherently moral. What controls honesty in politics is the personal, internal integrity of the individual. Their principles. And that is something you have rejected constantly as a basis for government in favor of empathy. For you have repeatedly let unprincipled behavior get a pass while calling out principled behavior as lacking empathy.

And BTW government is not identical with politics anyway. Better government is an anathema to you if it is principled but not liberal. While it is admired by you if it is unprincipled but liberal. You have repeatedly advocated for violation of laws you find disagreeable. Government based on personal empathy is going to be intensely unprincipled.

DivideByZero
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DivideByZero
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Fair????? It’s not about “fair” it’s about politics, not exactly the poster-child for fairness, now is it? Was it fair when Obama and Holder were running guns to drug cartels, and nothing was done? Then there’s the Obamacare lies; you can keep your doctor (lie), and your rates will remain the same (lie). Obama sends pallets of money to the biggest sponsor of terrorism in the world, was that “fair”. Isn’t it intriguing that there were 8 jihadist attacks on American soil during Obama’s reign and not one in Trump’s first 4 years. Hmmmmm Ok that’s it, but remember; nothing is “fair” in politics or war. You do realize politics is war, but with the hope nobody gets killed. Fair indeed——–

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

It’s not a strong argument. If the Senate had been held by the Dems they certainly would have pushed Garland through. It’s politics.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Of course they would have, because the election was close to a year away when Scalia died. 9 months before the election and almost a year before a new SCOTUS judge was appointed.

But then when Democrats held the Senate and a GOP was president, they still held hearings. McConnell wouldn’t even let THAT happen. Now he didn’t even wait till her body was cold to announce, 45 days before the election, that he push through an appointment.

There is politics and then there is rank hypocrisy. McConnell has killed the Senate as a deliberative body.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
3 years ago

Politicians are hypocrits. They play to whatever advantage is in front of them. To pretend that Mitch would have done anything else is just naive.

If the situation was reversed the Dems would do the same thing.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Really? You think not allowing a nominee to have a hearing at all for over nine months is just “politics as usual”? Garland’s nomination formally ended on Inauguaration Day, 2017.

Well, it isn’t totally unprecedented, that one time it happened before was 1852.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
3 years ago

Yes. Politics as usual. There’s nothing fare about the political game. Don’t confuse what you want the Senate to do with political reality.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

I can sure point it out, though. It isn’t “business as usual”.

And I’ll call anyone who says otherwise out. Because it isn’t.

As I pointed out..the only other time that has ever happened was in 1852.

Also, when people want to say the Democrats are the obstructionists, to point out that hundreds of bills from the House are still metaphorically gathering dust in some corner of McConnells office.

The “they do it, too” argument is lazy and in this case untrue.

Guest
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3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

The fact that the opportunity comes along rarely in a time of such nasty division and judicial activism doesn’t mean much. That is a bad case of survivor bias to think it. Ullr is exactly right. “They” do it all the time. “They” being every politician and every social activist who ever existed. The minute a person thinks the ends justify the means, that is the result.

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Exactly Ullr. Obama did nominate a judge, just as Trump will. If the American people had elected enough senators who wanted Obama’s selection in, it would have happened. If there are currently enough duly elected senators who want Trump’s selection in, it will happen (it is not a given) . There is a reason why certain powers were given to the Senate and why every state has an equal number of senators. It is so more populous states (like CA) can’t force their will on the rest of the country. That is also why we have the Electoral College. Cries about the popular vote are just that. In our great country, the Deplorables still get a say in things even if it chaps the asses of those who think they know better.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Talk about weak arguements.

Not allowing a nominee hearing 11 months before elections is not politics, its bullshit racist fuckheadedry.

Black Rifles Matter
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Black Rifles Matter
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I knew you’d drag out the race card….I’m surprised it took you that long darling

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

What did race have to do with it? He looks pretty white… WASP-ish, if you will…

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Obama won the popular election by 7%.

Trump, the birtherism spokesman, lost the popular election by 3%

Mitch, after Obama’s win, considered the election so devisive he held an immediate meeting with Republicans vowing to obstruct everything Obama-related.

Why?

NBC’s David Gregory asked Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell about a survey in which 31 percent of Republicans said President Obama was a Muslim. McConnell demurred: “I think the faith that most Americans are questioning is the president’s faith in the government to generate jobs.” Gregory persisted: “As a leader of the country, Sir—as one of the most powerful Republicans in the country—do you think you have an obligation to say to [31] percent of Republicans in the country … who believe the president of the United States is a Muslim, ‘That’s misinformation’?”

The best McConnell would do was this: “The president says he’s a Christian. I take him at his word.”

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2011/02/is-obama-a-muslim-birthers-bigots-and-boehner-s-cowardice.html

Whole Mitch was smart enough not to voice skepticism, he was stupid not to see the long run.

Lindsey Graham was smart enough:

“Here is what the Republican party needs to do: we have to say that’s crazy. So I’m here to tell you that those who think the president was born somewhere other than Hawaii you’re crazy … let’s knock this crap off and talk about the real differences we have.

 – Republican U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham, October 1, 2009[194]

Further:

commentators have criticized the reluctance of some Republicans to distance themselves from the proponents of the conspiracy theories, suggesting that “Republican officials are reluctant to denounce the birthers for fear of alienating an energetic part of their party’s base”.[13] NBC News’ “First Read” team commented: “the real story in all of this is that Republican Party has a HUGE problem with its base right now.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories

The charge of racism has nothing to do with the nominee.

It has everything to do with Mitch and Obama.

HOGRANCH
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HOGRANCH
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Just remember Amy will be taking Ruth,s spot. After all the dirt the commies dished out to the president, russia impeachment all nancy,s tearing up of the the papers on tv. He who laughs last, laughs best.
An you will feel this for 40 years, now that is a legacy!

Gimmie a break
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Gimmie a break
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Spot on Ullr Rover!!

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Really? Consistency is the hobgoblin of every Progressive all the time. Protest in the time of a pandemic is the obvious thing that pops into mind. Didn’t you state that it was fine if the protest was “important enough” and then of course applied your own interpretation of what’s important enough? Which was your right. But you can’t expect to claim virtue in consistency while simultaneously demanding inconsistency.

DivideByZero
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DivideByZero
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

You do realize we have an electoral college? Do you actually believe it’s “fair” to let a handful of cities dictate how the entire country is run? The founding fathers knew better than that. We’re not a democracy, we’re a Democratic Republic. For those who don’t like it, you’re free to leave.

clayton bigsby
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clayton bigsby
3 years ago
Reply to  Sunset

RIP RBG MAGA !

Mike
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Mike
3 years ago
Reply to  clayton bigsby

I’m okay with waiting til after the election, but everyone else who is favor of it are certain that Biden will be elected, but what if Trump is re-elected? Will you be ok with it then or will you still throw a hissyfit?

reality
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reality
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Ruling that one person owes another money simply cause their born or they must pay a fine is “Moderate”?

Is slavery. No one should ever be forced to work for someone else.

Or do you not work for your money?

The failed at protecting our basic freedom, same as they did back when they fought to keep slavery going.

My other post that talks about deeply personal things go into more details on why your “right” tramples all over mine as a father. Tramples all over the baby’s rights.

Its NOT 1960 where birth control was limited and awkward.

I expect Politicians to pass laws that help humanity (which means helping Mother Earth).
I expect the “executive” branch to carry out those laws (and just those laws).
I expect the courts to rule when someone sues claiming either the laws violate other laws or the executive branch is not carrying them out. Not more, not less.

Just one example of a gross failure in all of this.

Back like 40 years ago Congress passed a “law” that literally says a person can loose their 2cnd rights and NEVER have been in front of a Judge (ever) or a mental health worker (ever) or charged with a crime (or even investigated for one). And that was never overturned by our Judicial system. Its still on the books.

I know liberals love the idea of that, just rip that right from you point blank regardless.

Maybe people expect to be led around and looked after, we can just import our near slave labor and export it when we can’t, right?

I believe freedom is the only way humanity has a chance. But with that comes responsibility…..

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
3 years ago

hooboy

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
3 years ago

What else you got 2020? I get the feeling I’m going to say this a few more times this year

Jay
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Jay
3 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

yeah, no kidding…relentless challenges and bad news

Enough already
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Enough already
3 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

Don’t. Ok?

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
3 years ago

I didn’t agree with many of her opinions. She was guilty of judicial legislating rather than following the law. And she most certainly didn’t understand a thing about western living. I think Scalia was a moderating influence on her. That being said, the entire court is east coast and metropolitan oriented,which I find disturbing. And lifetime tenure is not good either. That goes for legislators even more. May she rest in peace, but we are overdue for new justices, especially ones who follow the constitution and legal precedent and dont duck from making difficult decisions, which seems to be their traditional modus operandi.

Cy Anse
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Cy Anse
3 years ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

The Court has always had partisan elements that shape it’s make-up, from John Adams in 1801 cutting the number of justices to 5 to limit president-elect Jefferson’s opportunities to nominate a justice to Franklin Roosevelt’s attempt to raise it to 15 to McConnell’s refusal to consider Obama’s nominee to replace Scalia a full 8 months before the election.

The Justices themselves have mostly been able to avoid blatant political partisanship but there will always be an element of political taint to every court that has a strong lean in either direction.

While I agree that we should follow the Constitutional framework in deciding cases, I do believe the Constitution is a Living Document that necessarily is interpreted through a modern lens rather than through original intent. That’s the role of the Court but where conservatives and liberals are often at odds.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
3 years ago
Reply to  Cy Anse

The way to change the Constitution as a living document is to amend it, not by fudging on it.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

Redefining words is the typical end run around the limits of the Constitution these days. Constitutionalists may look to original meaning but agenda-ists look to current word usage. How many times do they say ” It’s not 1776 (because most of them don’t know when the Constitution was actually ratified) any more” as justification for ignoring the Constitution. When is racism not racist? When it is called eliminating Systematic Racism. When is States rights exist? When California wants to declare itself a “sancturary state.” When does it totally not exist. When Trump doesn’t declare a national quarantine order.

Sigh Ants
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Sigh Ants
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I’m a bit curious about what you are implying. When the Constitution was ratified the only people considered citizens were males of European descent with but rare exception. To them it wasn’t even an issue, nor was gender equity because females were too weak to be trusted with the right to vote and slaves and Indians weren’t even people, they were property or savages. To have that as the historical backdrop to what the Constitution meant and what it implied is perhaps the classic example of systemic racism, elements of which persists still today.

I don’t think anyone was saying Trump not voicing support for a national mask policy or stay-at-home policy was an issue of state’s right, it was an issue of national leadership which was utterly lacking. The truth is the feds lack the enforcement mechanism to implement any kind of national health mandate except to control travel at airports and entry/exit of the borders.

But redefining terms is true of conservatives as well when it comes to the Constitution. The second Amendment for example, clearly states the purpose of the right to keep and bear arms is to maintain a well-regulated militia for the common defense of the country. Since we no longer have a well-regulated militia, that right should be able to be abridged freely by the individual states and communities yet it is fought tooth and nail every time even mild regulations are proposed like universal background checks.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Sigh Ants

Read the Second Amendment a bit more accurately. What it says is “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” https://www.loc.gov/law/help/usconlaw/second-amendment.php

It does not say having a well regulated militia is required to protect the right to bear arms. That would be redefining the words. It has been interpreted for centuries to be that as militia is the entity that keeps an unlawful government in check and to have a well regulated militia, if the needs arise, it can not spring from a populace who has zero arms and no experience with them.

But I suppose that it could be interpreted that “leadership” means a toothless cheering sections but that would be just silly. What people who made an issue of that clearly wanted is the President to exactly what you said nobody was saying- make the citizens follow the rules.

Sigh Ants
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Sigh Ants
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

For the Second Amendment bit, I just ran across the longer-winded comments over on the Donovan letter that more comprehensively covers it than I could. But to put it simply, when you make a prefatory comment as part of the sentence as in the 2nd, then you imply that it’s the reason for the rest of the sentence. If that reason doesn’t hold or can be covered by other means, then the latter part of the sentence no longer holds.

That’s not redefining the words, that’s simply reading them literally as they are written.

But I’ll stop there since this will likely kick a hornet’s nest of arguments about the 2nd that I’m not really interested in. I was just using it as an example of conservatives looking at the document solely in a modern context and excerpting a part of a sentence to build a whole belief structure around.

Trashman
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Trashman
3 years ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

Hair on fire time.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
3 years ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

How do you define “western living”? Racism, sexism, …? What aspect of western living did she rule against that you are unhappy with?

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
3 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

I doubt that was Jeffersonian’s definition but it seems to be yours. That is, pertaining to the cultural West as opposed to the American geographic west.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
3 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

I think it has to be Jeffersonian’s definition, because those are the primary things Ginsburg has been known for ruling against…

DivideByZero
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DivideByZero
3 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Oh please, don’t you have something besides the same old, boring, untrue, platitudes?

JanetCrosbee
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JanetCrosbee
3 years ago

This lady was a traitor to our country, she will not be missed and i am looking forward to making abortion illegal. God Bless America!

Clear
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Clear
3 years ago
Reply to  JanetCrosbee

Your opinion is no where near “My America”. 1930 called and want their ridiculous standards back.
2020 needs better. RIP RBG, you set a great example.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
3 years ago
Reply to  JanetCrosbee

She seemed to be a true American to me, always standing up for the things America stands for, like all being created equal and justice for all…

I’m fairly sure disagreeing with your attempts to violate the constitution by making laws respecting your religious delusions does not make her a traitor. Quite the opposite, in fact.

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3 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

A fetus is not a “religious delusion” and how it’s treated is not consistently a matter of religion, however you choose to assign it. But even if your bias was ignored, most Americans do not fit that profile, religious or not. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/22/american-religious-groups-vary-widely-in-their-views-of-abortion/

Glenn Franco Simmons
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3 years ago
Reply to  JanetCrosbee

While I did not agree with all of Justice Bader Ginsburg’s opinions, she definitely was not a traitor to our country. She is a true patriotic hero who will be missed by many. You are entitled to your opinion, but to speak so callously of someone who just died is awful.

Since you mentioned abortion, let me say, while I am personally opposed to abortion (except in cases of rape or mother’s life in danger or issue with the unborn), I realize that it is legal in the United States and I do not seek to legislate my personal religious beliefs upon other Americans who may disagree with me. America is not a theocracy, nor do I want it to be.

To me, if you want to end abortion, educate and change hearts.

We, as Americans, should also find a way to better treat our American brothers and sisters who are born into poverty and violence. Our appeal to end abortion would then resonate much better.

May Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s memory be a blessing.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
3 years ago

Wise words, GFS. Culture warriors of both the right and left choose to seek coercive power rather than to educate and change hearts. In so doing, they lose hearts and minds. They may gain short-term advantages through power grabs, but in the long run they’re digging their own graves.

BonnieBlue
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BonnieBlue
3 years ago
Reply to  JanetCrosbee

You, Ms. Crosbee, with your religious bigotry, are the traitor to America’s principles and ideals.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
3 years ago
Reply to  JanetCrosbee

Meh. “God” cares about the whole planet, all of his creation (though I personally feel that if he exists, he has done a really crap job of it).

You make that mistake of inserting God into civil society (civil as in a government that is above the splintered religious beliefs of some in the country). I fully support getting religion out of government.

RBG wasn’t a traitor to this country, she was just a “traitor” to your own narrow views.

I was a red-letter Christian, you know, the actual words of Jesus (the Christ in Christian)…his words weren’t just suggestions. Also, I would wait patiently for your quotes from bible passages that are anti-abortion. Actually scratch that. I already know. Though it sounds like you don’t.

I also miss, terribly, a time when one’s denomination wasn’t a call to war or a barometer of one’s loyalty to the United States.

Jim Brickley
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Jim Brickley
3 years ago

Sure, while we’re at it, let’s abolish health care for millions and stick those pesky Gays back in the closet! Now, go back to your ‘Leave it to Beaver’ reruns!

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
3 years ago
Reply to  Jim Brickley

Uhm….I think you misunderstood where I was coming from.

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3 years ago

While it is pretty clear that his comment was either misplaced or simply wrong, it is funny, that having been so wrong, he felt just fine being so sarcastic. It’s what has anyone even slightly conservative shaking their heads- that so much lack of understanding feels free to be so vicious.

What a hypocrite!
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What a hypocrite!
3 years ago
Reply to  JanetCrosbee

Janet but you support ICE Hysterectomies in Georgia hypocrite. If you really cared about life before birth, you’d not support the theft of God’s gift of procreation!

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 years ago

RIP RBG and very sad for her family. With a contentious election ahead, we certainly need all nine judges seated to decide any election challenges and avoid anarchy in our country. Let’s hope Trump again nominates a moderate and our Senate avoids partisan infighting during the confirmation process.

A concerned citizen
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A concerned citizen
3 years ago

The most important issue in the near future is the need for a full court to arbitrate the almost-certain conflict over the results of the presidential election. Without RBG the court will be 4-4, so no resolution of the election will be possible without a full court.

The election controversy during Bush/Gore was finally decided by the supreme court, which had orders to find a verdict before inauguration day. They ruled 5-4 in favor of Bush.

Glenn Franco Simmons
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3 years ago

One doesn’t have to agree with all of her votes as a Supreme Court justice, but a fair review of her life and legacy can lead only to one conclusion: Justice Bader Ginsburg was a true American hero. May her memory be a blessing.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
3 years ago

One of the few people in our government that I actually liked.

Now I can just hope everyone delays things enough to keep trump from ruining our country even more…

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
3 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

New Justice before the end of October, whose gonna stop him? You Mr Bushytails? Nope, politics ats its best , good to see the American people really changing things. Too funny, can’t make this sheet up.

Screwed Sideways
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Screwed Sideways
3 years ago

I watched the biographical drama about RBG a couple weeks ago, and was impressed by what I learned. This woman had an interesting career and a special effect on the status of women, and the evolution of gender and racial equality in this country.
Think what you will, from whatever viewpoint, the laws were antiquated, and they had to be changed!
RGB served longer than she should have, and her death was protracted. It’s a job few can hold, but one that many should give up when they get old.
RBG was definitely holding out hoping that she would live until Trump was out of office…
Thanks for your service, rest in peace…

Country Bumpkin
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Country Bumpkin
3 years ago

Is it the job of the judiciary to change laws? Civics 101 says it is the job of the legislature to pass laws. The judicial branch interperates and the executive enforces laws. Funny how so many people think that the court can make up laws and that the executive is bad for enforcing laws that the legislature passed. Checks and balances matter

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago

Thanks Bumpkin,

There are many people out there who don’t understand the system of checks and balances that were carefully designed to protect our freedoms. Activist judges undermine the system that they took an oath to uphold. In doing so, they betray that oath.

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3 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

The difference between being check on the balance of power and assuming all the power. There is no check on an activist judge.

Neil
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Neil
3 years ago

I am a person who disagreed with the majority of her decisions, but everything that I have seen or read about her was nothing but class. The fact that she and Scalia were good friends even with polar opposite ideologies shows that she was above the fray. The rest of us can take a lesson from her, you don’t have to hate and disrespect someone with different views. R.I.P

Nan
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Nan
3 years ago

I sure didn’t want to hear this news especially in this crazy times in USA

Tioraidh
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Tioraidh
3 years ago

Losing Ruth caused me to adapt these lyrics

Are you, are you longing to be free?
They fire all truth tellers, and
Take care of their toadies.
A strange man’s in power,
No stranger would it be,
If we could join together, and
Save our great country.

Are you, are you proud to be free?
His believers fly the flag, but
They don’t know what it means.
A weak man’s in power
How much stronger we would be.
If we join to defeat him
And save our great country.

Are you, are you grateful to be free?
He honors not our soldiers,
Can’t imagine bravery.
A lying man’s in power,
The truth can set us free,
Our numbers in November
Must save our great country.

Are you, are you determined to be free?
Our dedicated workers have
Great minds and decency.
Restore them, vote out the bad….
Rise up, breathe reality.
We will not let these cowards
Kill our democracy.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 years ago
Reply to  Tioraidh

Don’t give up your day job.

Erik
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Erik
3 years ago

Sing it with your best Austrian death metal voice and it flows togather nicely. If you still have functional voice chords after one pass you are not trying hard enough. Pro tip: smoke a filterless Camel and gargle with an extremely mild solution of household bleach first for effect.

rollin
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rollin
3 years ago

Good riddance Ruth Traitor Ginsburg. Mindless sheep showing total deference to a traitor who had nothing but contempt for the vey document she took an oath to uphold. You people have an inability to think for yourselves. You are the reason that trash like Cardi B is famous. I have cracked into a 100 year old bottle of scotch in celebration of this day. May god have mercy on your soul for the damage you have done.

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3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

And you complain about me picking on you. That was a Church Lady speech, judging the soul of a commenter.

BonnieBlue
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BonnieBlue
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I think his consistently meanspirited comments show that he is proof of the adage: “Your hate becomes you”.

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3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

The state of his soul is simply not a matter for a reporter’s public speculation. At the very least it’s the pot calling the kettle black because it hard to get more superficially mean than to say that sort thing about anyone in the first place. I keep hoping for wisdom to enlighten a lot of people but I certainly am not so sure of my godlike superiority to spell out just how stupid someone is.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Last I checked, Kym, in addition to being a reporter, is also a person, and is allowed to act in that capacity as well.

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3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Simply objecting to bias in journalism is neither being left or right. It is possible to even support an idea but object to the using unprincipled methods to further it. You assume that anyone who objects to doing wrong in the name of good opposes the good. That is a horribly common defect in mobs of any kind.

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3 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

That is like saying President Trump has a personal opinion so he has a right to use the Presidency to further it. Or a police officer doing the same.. or a bureaucrat doing it or a store owner singling out a customer for public ridicule just because they own the store.. Something you surely express outrage over when it is not even true. There should be a separation between professional and personal behavior. So no, Kym Kemp does not have a right to invite comment then attack the person based on some irritation over what she sees is a personality defect. Not if she is running a news site as opposed to a personal blog and she is inviting comment. There is a difference between saying a comment is inaccurate or even morally reprehensible than saying the human making it is defective. It’s just wrong and too much of that sort of sermonizing/ vigilantes has corrupted the national media as it is.

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3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

That is the difference between a professional and a dilettante. A professional may occasionally fail in living up to the standard but never believes there is no standard in the first place. And certainly will not take every personal criticism as cause for crusade.

You do not even seem to see that you’re aren’t neutral very often at all. And praise yourself excessively that you allow disagreeable comments. Many pieces on BLM, pot, race all from one perspective. 50 Josiah Lawson articles but the only way to learn about closely related topics like Brothers United or off campus drinking parties is from comments. You justify it by saying you bring what is related to your readers. But even in something that should as easy to do in an imminently universal issue of the pandemic, your bias weights your reporting. It would be likely that, despite your complaints about having so little time whenever someone questions it, there is not one piece on the economic damage to many businesses due to government orders or even how they are trying to accommodate it because of that bias while you do manage to find time to post innane socialist/progressive stories or pot stories. And saying you’d would expand your horizons if only people would provide them is disingenuous. Who would dare?

Fine if that’s what you want, the power is yours. But just don’t keep saying that is not what’s going on when it so obviously is.

P*** W***lies
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P*** W***lies
3 years ago
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“Politics as Usual”.

Very Well said.

Ernie Branscomb
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3 years ago

I am more of a student of human nature than of politics, so it makes no difference to me what Ginsburg’s politics were. I would have been proud to have been a friend of hers. She had a great sense of humor and an open mind.

One of her best friends was Antonin Scalia, a person that she seldom agreed with politically, but agreed with him in almost all other things. Too many folks let small differences divide them from other folks that are highly interesting people. I have seen way too many people who let the smallest political or religious differences make them bitter enemies.

A person with an open mind will be able to readily see that you cannot change a persons opinions, so you might as well enjoy your friendship instead. That is a lesson that Ruth Ginsburg knew well, much to the world’s benefit.

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3 years ago

Yes indeed.

Desert Rat
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Desert Rat
3 years ago

I always enjoy your insightful posts, Ernie. My gramps told me, “…to have friends you need to overlook a flaw or two. Chances are, they are overlooking yours.”

The older I get the more I realize he is right. Maybe someday we all can ignore the splinter in another’s eye. Or maybe we will realize we can’t see that splinter because of the log in our eye.

Let’s hope the people we elect to represent us can start working together for all of us. Both parties have ideas that can benefit all. If they collectively turned their backs on corporations and special interests, we’d have a fighting chance.

Kanye 4 Prez
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Kanye 4 Prez
3 years ago

A marxist infiltrator who singlehandedly upheld unjust laws dies and everyone cries rivers.

This is America. This is the year 2020.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago

RGB deserves praise for much that she did for Women.
Then there are some things I don’t agree with at all.

That being said, I won’t pretend for a second that if the Dems had control of the Senate today that they would wait 2 seconds to confirm a new Supreme Court Justus.

For them to say otherwise is total hypocrisy.

“After news broke that Ruth Bader Ginsburg had passed away on Friday night, every deep state Democrat in the planet rushed to Twitter to demand that we wait until after the election to appoint a new SCOTUS justice.”

“One problem, none of them were wanting to “wait” after conservative Justice Antonin Scalia passed away in February of 2016.”

“In fact, in a tweet he is surely regretting today, Barack Obama told the Senate to “do their job” and “consider appointees” fairly before the election.”

https://trendingpolitics.com/obama-is-going-to-wish-he-didn-t-send-this-216-tweet-about-filling-scalia-s-seat/

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Consistency?

In 2016, Obama and his supporters did everything in their power to seat the judge of the President’s choosing.

In 2020, I am betting that Trump and his supporters will do everything in their power to seat the judge of the President’s choosing.

Consistency.

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3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I always disagreed with Ralph Waldo Emerson’s oft misused quote about foolish consistency being the hobgoblin of small minds, thinking that consistency at least shows some intelligence in the original thinking involved so that it didn’t need to be changed. But often the “foolish” part of it ignored. If later events provide reasons to review the original decision then by all means change it. But no one bought McConnell ‘s rationalization in the first place- it was about power because an activist Court damaged the power of Congress so Congress using its only relevant power over the Court became a necessity. It became Important and principle had little to do with it.

Democrats and anti Trump Republicans could mass together to force the issue but it will be a surprise if they do, being the harpies they have come to be. But at least it gives an opportunity for the public to see politics without the veneer of social and political lying. If the public turns out to prefer truth to lies. Which would also be a surprise. The press will go on as usual with judgment calls rather than understanding.

Ernie Branscomb
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3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Actually, I see a lot of consistency, and I would call not it hypocrisy. We send Democrats to Washington the represent the Democrat view, and Republicans to represent the Republican view. If you think that we are in a mess right now, it is a mess of our own making. Our choice as voters is to elect people to represent us. We can always vote the people we don’t like out of office. So, ultimately it is the people’s choice. It is the President’s Job to appoint Supreme Court Justices, It is the Senate’s job to confirm or deny that choice. All the blather about principles is just that, blather. They already know what they are going to do.

While I’m on a rant I also want the point out to all the Grammar police that it is not the “Democratic” party, It is the Democrat party. The Republican, Green, Peace and Freedom are ALL “democratic” Parties. I don’t mind misspelling, typos, or mistakes… so I guess that I’m just proving that I can be picayune also.

Tom Paine
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Tom Paine
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

The presidency is not a popularity contest. We live in a republic, thank God, not a tyrannical mob rule democracy. The founders were geniuses to create the electoral college. America needs to be saved from fascist socialism. Whatever it takes to dismantle Clintonian liberalism is fine by me.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym,

Surely your not suggesting if the situation were reversed that the Dems wouldn’t do EVERYTHING they could to sit a new justice.
Because that’s just beyond belief.

Does 27 FBI phones erased during an investigation by Durham sound like dirty tricks to you? Right after Lisa and Peter’s messages about an insurance policy were disclosed. That’s a lot of people forgetting their password.

Really doesn’t do much for Dem Cred.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym quoting you ” Unless, of course, this was never about “right and duty” and more about winning for your side no matter what dirty tricks you pull.”

This implies to me when you say “you”, that you’re implying only one side is doing this.
It’s a lot easier to play fair if both sides are playing by the same rules.

When people like Maxine Waters says for people to get in their face, at gas stations, restaurants, etc. and then you watch it happen…there is something very wrong with that. I consider it inciting violence. On what Moral ground can a congress woman incite violence in the USA and it stands?

People want to make this about Trump and his personality but it’s about much more than that.

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

If the republicans rush through a new Supreme Court justice in this small time frame, and then they lose in a big way, I would see it as justified to expand the court and add some more balanced justices. It’s just going to make everything uglier.

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3 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

I doubt you would support expanding the court if the roles were reversed. I’m not even sure you think balanced isn’t the same as liberal activism. “Who” is never a good point in applying a principle. “What” is. If it makes you less fearful of losing this battle by saying it would be a miracle, I doubt that if even McConnell ‘s political capital and expertise can make it happen. But it would be a refreshing change if liberals in general would not be so fast to be morally outraged over their opponents for doing exactly what they do themselves. They seem to think that destroying the balance of powers under the Constitution is just fine if it gets them what they want. Only they don’t pay attention to the likelihood of themselves being gutted in a future election because they are dazzled by the prospect of immediate gratification.

What would be the ideal would be if a judge, either left or right in orientation, was seared who was not an activist. One who found misusing their power to legislating by the courts to be abhorrent.

Erik
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Erik
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Bingo.

Fun with facts!
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Fun with facts!
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I’ve been sitting on the edge of my seat following this debate, not. I hear it at work everyday. You’re both refusing to concede to the fact that you both flip flop “what it’s about” because both your arguments are identical and identically inverse depending on whose foot gets the shoe. It’s cringe worthy to witness. I-mutha-funkin-dentical double standard about who the hypocrite is. Dems and Repubs are the same at the top, it’s a grande facade. They run the show and y’all are glued to their fiction.

Go00Ooood morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Who is POTUS and also holds the Senate is what-aboutisum that matters.
Obama did NOT have the Senate.
But then the Dems change the rules whenever they lose, 15 Justices… another arrow from Nancys quiver???

Life with “get in there faces” or law and order matters.
Or at least it does to people who would like to sit down and have a meal at a restaurant and not be harassed.
It also matters if you don’t want your business you spent your life building burnt down.

Dems have radically change quality of life for everyone since Trump was elected. That matters.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Pelosi says Democrats will ‘use every arrow in her quiver”….

Then it’s only fair that Trump, and the republicans use every arrow in their quiver to stop the extreme leftist democrats like Pelosi.

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3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

It’s possible to find both parties simply to be the nature of politics in a democracy inthat there is no perfectly satisfying solution to anything where more than two people are involved. The horror come from finding out that so many people think like partisans rather than realists.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I don’t care what party it is when a sitting congress person calls for violence or harassment of fellow citizens ( without any reprimand ) after a Congressman has been shot on a baseball field, that’s where I draw the line. Especially when over 100 nights of violence follow.

Just to add a cherry on top they also want to destroy 2a rights to protect yourself.

I’m pretty sure it isn’t a Republican that just mailed ricin to the POTUS.

Mike
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3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Trump gets nominated for Nobel peace prize, “lets get rid off the Nobel peace prize!” Trump get to nominate a justice, “we’ll expand the court!” Liberals are their own worst enemies. I think it would be hilarious, and morally fair, something that doesn’t exist in politics, for trump to get re-elected and then push it through before his second impeachment because he hurts your feelings. I’d be willing to bet my left leg that Biden couldn’t even explain how the judiciary system works without a TelePrompTer.

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Angela Robinson
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Who is pushing for the elimination of the Nobel Peace Prize?

Also, being nominated doesn’t mean he will be awarded the thing. He was nominated by a far-right Norwegian politician. Other “nominations” are not qualified. Though some have tried, of course.

Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Putin and freaking Rush Limbaugh have been nominated. None of them were awarded the thing, of course.

Seriously, who is calling for the elimination of the thing?

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3 years ago
Reply to  Mike

How dare a right wing Norwegian think he should have a say! But then again, Obama actually got the prize due to his apology tour announcing to how he intended to fix all the horrible things for which the US was responsible. And did none of them except spread terrorism. Oh well I have yet to see an analysis in the mainstream media to know whether the latest Middle East peace effort is a bunch of smoke or meaningful or damaging. It’s news but not one that the press seems interested in before the election. At least not interested outside of deciding whether it influences the election.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Obama’s idea of peace was to send pallets of cash to Iran to continue funding wars in the Middle East and help their Nuke plans.

Was that your idea Valerie Jarrett?

The Nobel Prize pretty much lost it’s shine right then and became just another farce.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Chicago Mail Carriers Threaten To Stop Delivering Mail If City Fails To Control Violence
By Emily Zanotti

Sep 20, 2020 DailyWire.com
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Dem controlled…what did Obama or Biden do to stop all these murders in his hometown over 8 years??

When Dems keep doxing people do you expect everyone can tell who will be peaceful and who won’t?

Do notice the Repub wasn’t at the marchers homes.
The Repubs aren’t telling anyone to get in your face or to burn down buildings.

What would you think if after many episodes of violence people were at your home carrying rifles?
Rand Paul WAS injured at his home.

Maybe for the good of the Country marchers should take a break until the violence is under control…for there own sake as well as everyone else’s. it’s clear vigilantes are using them as cover…yet they never speak out about it.

It’s quite clear where the violence is coming from and citizens shouldn’t have to try to figure out who’s antifa and who”s a peaceful protestor. They should be secure in society and not needing to make such judgement calls.

Wearing a hand gun in public is not the same as a group of people with rifles that have an unknown agenda that may be peaceful or maybe not.

Mike
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3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

This is for Angela, only spot it’ll let me post, The Atlantic called for doing away with the Nobel peace prize entirely damn near the next day. If in an alternate universe trump would of appointed RBG you would of hated her.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

As I said, Congress persons have no right to advocate violence on either side and should be reprimanded.

In this case it’s against other Congress women, in Maxine’s case it’s against Citizens.

Both are WRONG! And it’s Maxine’s job to protect the citizens.

Without condemnation from everyone it will only get worse.

We all have bad days, and some of us apologize when we go to far.
So the Repub Congressmen defiantly owe apologies, if they do it again they should be recalled by Repubs as should Maxine ( this wasn’t just one time ) by Dems.

If you think about it Kym you threatened to ban me for forgetting to use quotes just one time….Do you expect less from Congress people?

Mike
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3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Oh my bad! That’s sarcasm. I only made it half way through the articleas it is sheer disgusting TDS. If you publish ignorance you should be held responsible to some level. If a magazine was publishing white supremacy hate speech wouldn’t it be fair to just name the magazine not the author? That’s like someone saying “that’s not my swastika flag in the yard someone else put it there, you see that him not me”that but every day all the time always. There’s a narrative.

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P*** W***lies
3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Kym,
being naive about the next generation of biological warfare does NO ONE Any good.

We have seen overblown reaction to a flu virus that mostly kills old people with other major contributors, not the big bad Covid, and that happening in an election year has turned otherwise middle of the road people into one side or the other.

People losing their livelihoods while being cheered on by virtue signaling progressives, at the expense of our children’s freedom current and future economic destruction of millions of independent minded people.

I keep asking your stance on MANDATORY VACCINATIONS, and it looks like you might just be in favor of pushing that form of medical tyranny on the healthy population.

It’s obvious that bad people use good people with sincere intentions to keep this hoax pandemic alI’ve in the minds of people who have serious questions about the truthfulness about all the propused biometric and other technologies, in the name of health and safety to usher in a change of all life, that will no doubt come back to bite so many naive and honest people down the road.

We are dealing with an evil that has been studied and talked about for millenia.

Too much smoke inhaled by masks that don’t work for shit.

The gig is up.

Bury the need to keep pushing the Covid narrative, and spend some time looking at your own health factors that put you in a high risk category for everything else.

Ignorance and apathy of how the few have always controlled the few, shall not be lost on this overblown reaction to a flu, but actually a real pushback on those who seek compliance with unlawful demands

Be free, or be a slave.

This is absolutely apolitical.

THC
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THC
3 years ago

If any of you truly want the political environment in this country to change a few things need to happen. We need term limits for congress. We all need to realize there are too many people in this country to have it one way or the other, we need to meet in the middle. We need a cap on political campaign spending. And we need a bill that would force Congress to pass other bills one issue at a time,instead of lump hundreds of pork barrel spending bills together in one large massive piece of legislation that nobody on Earth has read in full before voting on… The presidency does not have much power unless it has the house and the Senate behind it.

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3 years ago
Reply to  THC

Term limits have made California more consistently liberal and gave a pass on shared venality but that disenfranchised rural voters, especially fiscally responsible ones, big time. I agree that Omibus bills are a tool of the special interests. As for the Presidency not having power, Obama used it to end run the Congress by in effect legislating the Dream Act and the SCOTUS has not managed to do their duty over that either. They decided that Trump needed a better argument rather than relying on Obama’s egregious unconstitutional power grab to put the power back into Congress’s lap. Obama had power that Trump does not based on the universal free pass the press gave Obama and the universal pettiness they exercise against Trump. It matters little to most people whether it was Constitutional or not but it bloody well should have mattered more to the Supreme Court that one man to the government into is own hands.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Gerrymandering hasn’t helped either.

FBnative
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3 years ago

There has been nothing “consistent and moral” about this election from day one. The Democrats have refused to engage in any constructive dialog ,since 2016. When Trump win re-election, what will happen, four more years of wasted time because one party feels butt hurt? Our politicians need to do their jobs they were elected to do or find people who will. Impeach them all!

Fun with facts!
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Fun with facts!
3 years ago

Token female. How’s the token black guy doing?

Fun with facts!
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Fun with facts!
3 years ago

“In the landmark climate case American Electric Power Co. Inc. v. Connecticut, Ginsburg led the court’s unanimous opinion that said private entities and states could not sue power companies for their contributions to climate change under federal common law.”

What only a minute of real unbias questioning revealed. Can “private entities”, like you and I, be sued for polluting?

Fun with facts!
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Fun with facts!
3 years ago

Look how this article sugarcoats bullshit with bullshit…technically, she helped the pollutors, BUT that left the door open for somebody else to make the right decision…

“Technically, Ginsburg ruled against several states that wanted to sue private power companies under public nuisance laws to set a cap on their carbon dioxide emissions. The prior 2007 ruling meant EPA’s authority blocked the states’ federal common law claims, Ginsburg wrote.

But environmentalists and Democrats saw a bright silver lining — confirmation that the federal government can and should be acting on climate change already.”

The bandwagon pedestal placement of that judge is dumb.

Fun with facts!
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Fun with facts!
3 years ago

“Eminent domain applies to public economic development.Justice Ginsburg joined the Court’s decision on Kelo v. City of New London on Jun 23, 2005:

In one of the most controversial cases of the session, the Court rules, 5-4, in Kelo v. City of New London, that a government can take possession of private property against the owner’s will and transfer it to private developers when the result will promote economic development.

HELD: Delivered by Stevens, joined by Kennedy, Souter, Ginsburg, Breyer”

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Fun with facts!
3 years ago

This case was a no-brainer, but your beloved Ruth Bader Ginsburg proved herself to be just another sellout.

“In the Kelo case, Connecticut had a statute allowing eminent domain for “economic development” even in the absence of blight. There was also an additional twist in that the development corporation was ostensibly a private entity; thus the plaintiffs argued that it was not constitutional for the government to take private property from one individual or corporation and give it to another, if the government was simply doing so because the repossession would put the property to a use that would generate higher tax revenue.”

cya
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cya
3 years ago

Rbg been trying to lower the age of sexual consent to 12 years of age for decades and you all here are celebrating her?
We’ll get her seat filled asap with a constitutionalist!

P*** W***lies
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P*** W***lies
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

You either want freedom or security, both have real demands and consequences.

This is absolutely not the time to give up y/our birthright.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago

BLM Thugs Terrorize Families Trying To Dine Out In San Diego, Makes Children Cry

15 hrs ago

https://vidmax.com/video/198447-blm-thugs-terrorize-families-trying-to-dine-out-in-san-diego-makes-children-cry

Or…as the left calls them peaceful protestors, helping restaurant owners recover from Covid damage to their businesses.

avenuerider
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3 years ago

OH HAPPY DAY!!! we are rid of this satanist globalist witch!!! Rest in peace.TRUMP 2020!!!

avenuerider
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3 years ago

Just another statue taken down!