Dr. Frankovich Talks About New Covid Testing Swabs, Planning for Better Testing After OptumServe Leaves Humboldt, and More
Humboldt County’s Public Health Officer Dr. Teresa Frankovich has been answering questions since the stay-at-home orders were instituted on a two question per media outlet roughly two to three times a week basis. The Emergency Operations Center takes the questions, and staff reads them on camera for their response. The resulting video, called a Media Availability, is then provided to news outlets at the end of the day.
Here are some of the main points covered in the August 21st Media Availability session with a summary of answers from Dr. Teresa Frankovich, followed by questions we would have liked to ask in response if appropriate.
Question by Daniel Mintz of the Mad River Union, the Independent and KMUD News: I would like to have something clarified regarding a statement made by Dr. Frankovich during the August 19th video. When she said “insinuations of racism” and “allegations of incompetence” had been directed at her and the public health branch,” was she specifically referring to what HSU’s president had said, in the emails or otherwise?
Answer by Dr. Frankovich:
I have both had email exchanges and verbal conversations with President Jackson and at this point I just want to reiterate I don’t plan on discussing this further, we’re moving on. Thank you.
55 sec in:
Question by The North Coast Journal: Our understanding is that HSU has taken samples from hundreds of students who have moved into on-campus housing to be tested by public health. Can you provide an update on how many samples from campus have been processed at this point and a timeline for completing the first round of testing for students residing on campus?
Answer by Dr. Frankovich:
My understanding is that we have received all but approximately you know 200 or so maybe less specimens from HSU relative to what we expect so I’m assuming that most if not all those students will be coming in over the next few days. So and on the others we have reported out on everything that we have completed testing wise and I can’t tell you what the exact number is on that.
Media Followup questions we’re unable to ask because of the format:
After being confirmed COVID-19 positive, will students/staff be required to test negative before they are able to return to classes, at HSU and at CR, which have both have positive cases confirmed on campus?
1 mins 55 sec in:
Question by The North Coast Journal: Some time back, Public Health reported that it had obtained some new equipment that would allow it to boost testing capacity to about 300 samples a day. Is that equipment up and running and if not, why not and when do you expect it to be?
Answer by Dr. Frankovich:
So, we do have the equipment in place, and I know we’re going to be putting out some additional information including a discussion with the the lab manager about the new equipment. So, all I’ll say is that it is up, we have been working on ramping up the process, which involved bringing on some additional staff, and so our numbers are actually increasing significantly and we are now much more in that 200 range, but aiming for the 300.
2 mins 40 sec in:
Question by North Coast News: Is the less intrusive anterior nasal swab less effective? Why did we suddenly switch to that method? Is it because there’s a shortage of the longer swabs?
Answer by Dr. Frankovich:
Actually we have a good supply of the nasopharyngeal swabs, as some people may be aware those swabs were the original instrument used to collect and so we had the most data on those in terms of sensitivity and specificity of using those swabs with the machines that we had. Over time we have, there’s more data about the swabs that are done in the front part of the nose and they have, the data has looked good in terms of it being pretty comparable to using the nasopharyngeal swabs. We certainly know they’re more comfortable, and we also know that they can be done as a self collection, as opposed to having to have someone do it. And that will actually improve efficiency for what we’re doing in specimen collection, so I think it’s a good move for the county.
3 mins 45 sec in:
Question by North Coast News: In the BOS meeting, Dr. Frankovich talked about the Optum Serve site’s contract ending in September. What does this mean for Humboldt? Then she began discussing a larger, regional site. Can she explain more on what this is about?
Answer by Dr. Frankovich:
So yes, the Optum site is currently contracted by the state through the end of September, so we’ve been aware of that and we’ve been planning on whether we wanted to continue using OptumServe and contracting locally or develop another strategy. Because of the concerns we’ve had about the turnaround time with Optum I think we were all uniformly looking for another strategy and so we’ve been in discussions regionally with Del Norte County, with tribal partners and HSU as well to look at what we could do locally that would give us a really excellent turnaround time and address the needs for our community, so we will be having more information about that soon, we’re just sort of getting the finals in place on that.
4 mins 45 sec in:
Question by North Coast News: We are often asked about the data of the people who suffered COVID-related deaths in Humboldt. Would you please review the demographics of those patients (age, gender, ethnicity, underlying conditions)?
Answer by Dr. Frankovich:
So, as people may be aware, we’ve had a total of four deaths related to COVID. They were all individuals who were residents of an assisted living facility at the time. We identified their gender and they, that they were elderly individuals, and that really is the information that we have at hand for public right now.
5 mins 20 sec in:
Question by North Coast News: Do we have local data that indicates who wears masks more (i.e. men, women, age range, etc.)?
Answer by Dr. Frankovich:
Well, it’s a good question, but honestly we don’t have local data on that. I’m not quite sure how we would construct that, except I think we would have to do some random observational surveys to get some feel for that, but I honestly don’t know. My hope is that everyone will wear them.
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Some people want to be relevant so bad.
Some want to believe that they are in need of guidance from the officials who are paid by our tax dollars.
Some people areally trying to do good.
Some people are just punching the clock because they have mouths to feed and bills to pay…
While they participate in the controlled demolition of our economy, with a pension and top quality insurance.
A cartel by any other name is still a cartel.
Well said.
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Dr. Frankovich has gotten alot better at answering questions in a more direct fashion. Much easier to understand. Considering what she is going through, running point for the county on covid, one can only assume she is stressed to the max, but she’s hanging in there. Good for her.
The only thing she’s “going through” is our money.
you might want to go visit transparent CA. why not get the data from the source instead of believing what wing nuts post. Honsal makes the most and a few correctional officers and others still make more. the amount of money some paper pushers make is insane. like i have said over and over, it is the staff that is the problem. a quick scan of the last names says it all.
No one seems to understand the situational awareness of a group of people employed by the people, who’s job it is to serve the needs of the people , instead create a new world of hoops to jump through.
These people are immune, in large , from any civil suit because the act under the color or law.
We need to shut down these top heavy institutions and make the rest of the government employees feel the pain of the lock down.
Otherwise , it’s never going to change
Here’s a strategy for ya: admit that we only have 4 alleged covid deaths, all senior citizens, and that there is no pandemic and move on…
Sure, just don’t compare the typical death rate to the current death rate.
Not only “senior citizens”, but in fact seniors who had lived 10-15 years beyond the average life-span.
Jesus…You know that when Christ was crucified on the cross, he died about age 33 and the average age at death at that time was about 30 so…hey, it wasn’t a tragedy at all that he died. He got several years past the average life span.
Uh…comparing the actions of murderous humans killing Christ, to the actions of nature, or an “act of God” if you like, is inappropriate….it creates a false and misleading comparison and argument.
It’s the way the fear mob operates, by appealing to emotions, and disregarding logic and fact, and it is hurting us as a society…let’s stay in the land of logic please
If you bring COVID through carelessness to someone who later dies of it…is that an act of nature? Worse yet, if you deliberately choose not to follow health guidelines and your behavior leads to multiple people dying…doesn’t that make you a mass murderer?
No. It doesnt.
Do you want to elucidate on that? I know we all tend to think we’re right but generally we offer thoughts, evidence, etc. We don’t just ask everyone to accept our decision as if we were God handing down something written in stone.
Kym,
If we apply that standard to every action that carries consequences, every one of us is a mass murderer.
My favorite example (since I have a background in industrial chemistry) is that quite a number of the products we all buy are mutagenic, carcinogenic and otherwise toxic. Your and my auto exhaust is toxic, doubly so if we drive a diesel. Legal theory has it that we are jointly and severally liable for negligent damage we do, in other words we hold some of the responsibility as well as all of the responsibility even if we find someone else who holds the responsibility. If two participate in a murder, that doesn’t allow each of us to serve half of the sentence or pay half of the restitution.
I think we are, in spirit, all mass murderers. But then who would jail us all?
I think you’re standing on, or even sliding down, the slippery slope that led to witch burnings, Gypsy exclusions, and the labeling of “plague carriers” towards Jews. The most learned knowledge of the day made each of these righteous actions. Certainly you are in the same zone as mandatory circumcision and other “health” practices. Though I “blame” chemical companies for cancer deaths and even support law suits to recover for liability, I question having everyone get in each other’s heads, houses and personal choices about the use of industrial chemicals. I also dislike the extensive use of social or especially legal force to create “proper” behavior with respect to mass diseases.
What especially bothers me is that if the prescribed behavior turns out to be harmful, we are faced with assigning blame when the “right” choice is wrong and vice versa. For instance, simply being outside reduces contagion for Covid 19 between 36 and 1000 times. Can I force you to stay outside? Only if officials say so? What if you are personally susceptible to skin cancer? What if we all ridicule you and call that a “minor inconvenience”? What are you supposed to do before the public order comes out? What are you supposed to do when everyone is ordered outside before the officials modify the order? Mammograms turned out to be deadly for a certain subset of women who had a particular radiation activated, genetically coded tendency to get breast cancer; what if their insurance companies or doctors or friends encouraged or pushed them to be “safe” and get tested, murder?
I support personal medical choice. If something “only works if everybody does it” then it doesn’t work. Something else should be instituted.
Exactly what I was thinking, b.
Over half the food on the shelves is garbage.
Empty calories, filler, and essentially DEAD.
IF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT wanted HEALTH,
our choices at the market would be cut by 2/3,
AT LEAST.
people are so excited about the covid drama, and what restrictions on healthy people are coming next.
If we truly understood our power to Lead, instead of folloe, we would all demand the health department eliminate all the things b referenced above.
A mask doesn’t prevent cancer, heart disease, diabetes, MS, etc .
We will need to reevaluate our goals from reactive to proactive.
We’ve been playing the role of good sheep for too long, and those engaged in the real world economy understand that bureaucracy and local governments will be held LIABLE for the controller demolition of the economy.
We have commonly held behavior that endangers others to be unlawful whether or not the harm is actually done — we enforce restrictions on behavior when harm to unwitting others is a possible outcome (e.g. drunk driving).
However there is indeed a slippery slope argument to be made against restricting all behaviors that have even a remote probability of causing harm to others. And where we draw that line varies with time and culture. Target shooting in your backyard was common 100+ years ago, today it’s a liability.
An alternative would be to simply make everyone liable for the out-of-pocket medical costs incurred by anyone directly infected by them as well any economic loss from not being able to work or having to quarantine. That would make folks think twice if their wallet was being drained by their own bad behavior. Admittedly that would only work if we could do definitive tracing, which we can’t.
The simple truth is we’re fucked. With 40 million people in California alone and a significant number of them with the same attitudes as expressed by Who Cares and Swine, nothing we do will ultimately work. The best I can hope for is that things stay tamped down long enough for a vaccine to arrive or continued mutations to the virus that make it less harmful (which there’s some evidence for).
Meanwhile we’re back to looking out for ourselves and having to deal with assholes who simply don’t care if other people get sick and die.
How about the assholes who smoke, drink, eat like shit, have immune systems compromised because of industrial pollution and commercial dead agriculture.
When you speak of assholes, just remember that most people didn’t even know class 4 bioweapon labs existed.
Most people don’t know biological testing is legal and lawful under some national security act, aND ignorance and apathy goes both ways.
You are free to pollute your body as you wish, and subscribe to western medicine, and eat crap food and beverage, and study the humanities til your understanding and relevance become a mute point.
People are free to blame everyone else but themselves for the ability to discern fact from propaganda.
37th in education
26th in health care.
Number 1 in propaganda.
All you mask extremists will soon believe forced vaccinations are appropriate, even if the rigorous testing hasn’t shown more than 50% effectiveness.
That’s when things are going to get ugly.
Nailed it! Well written!
Btw Kym, by that logic, everyone is a murderer. Did you go out last flu season without a mask? If you did, you are a potential murderer, and if you are a potential murder just like me, what gives your murdering patooie the right to judge mine?
What about the people who Knowingly infect others with AIDS?
https://pridelegal.com/california-hiv-laws/
Please explain the USRDA to me , Kym.
Our Health experts, the ones being censored, are the best example of what defines health care.
37th in the world should have some real works implications, if you bother to observe a little bigger picture
Stop virtue signalling for the scandemic, stop pushing the mainstream narrative because it’s the easiest bus to drive the rest of us over a cliff.
If you are immune compromised, then look at what this incredible health care industry has done for you…
Ok… maybe they mask your symptoms a wee bit, but, seriously there are more important issues to face with keeping the healthy people working.
Class warfare at its finest, ushered in and managed by the lunatic majority.
https://ahtribune.com/world/covid-19/4346-following-the-money.html
I’m pretty sure Lyme disease isn’t caused by the Health Care industry. And I know there are a lot of problems with it but anitbiotics and smart doctors saved my life.
Yes. antibiotics.
And when smart doctors are censored for speaking truth, kym, something is wrong.
https://www.lymedisease.org/members/lyme-times/2019-summer-features/lyme-disease-biological-weapon/
I’m glad you came through it.
When smart doctors are censored for speaking the truth that is a problem.
When doctors who claim that having sex with demons causes illnesses also claim that they know better than the vast majority of scientists and epidemiologists then there’s a need to be concerned.
Yes, those 2 doctors from Bakersfield had their press conference from a local affiliate removed from Utube because they didn’t tow the line. Right or wrong, to censor people for expressing a professional opinion that is outside assumed norms is an egregious use of a public license platform. Yes, arguments can be made about Utube and it’s private terms of use, but it has become a public domain like telephones.
They are still there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs3rxPQb7Fc though I see that the original video was taken down. But I didn’t have any trouble finding it. The front page of Google had several links to their views. (And none refuting them. I also had to search for that separately)
I’m glad they’re still speaking, but this isn’t the press conference posted by an affiliate from Bakersfield. That vido was removed. Maybe someone has snuck it back on.
But it’s not….cuzz…. NOBODY’S DYING IN HUMBOLDT!
The elderly aren’t really anybody at all.
And people who die in Mendocino County (15 in the last month) apparently don’t count either.
What is the body count of all the other human beings doing human things?
Mandatory helmets, mandatory seat belts, …yeah, I guess they saved a few lives,
But if saving lives is what you are looking at, how do you address all the harm and suffering created by governments, and the agendas of the people who are a part of the permanent ruling class, who’s money is steering the government ship?
If you really wanted to save lives, wouldn’t you want to shut down the role of the military and every agency/organization overseas that operates overt, and covertly.
Have we not understood that the world is a 3 dimensional chess board in which all governments, and the private sector that steers the public sector based on “the world is full of evil people who want to do you and your family harm, and we have given ourselves the power to be the sole protector of your life.”
All countries need to find methods to keep their peaceful populations under control, and many times, it’s simply creating a boogie man that the country needs to rally behind to defeat.
The truth is policy is created in Non government think tanks, by people with an agenda that has billions of dollars behind it.
If you think the tax exempt foundation, by nature, is a source of good will and rainbows and lollipops, I beg you to look into why The bill and melinda gates foundation.
“”The Foundation’s funds have been well invested. According to the Nation, it has earned “$28.5 billion in investment income over the last five years. During the same period, the foundation has given away only $23.5 billion in charitable grants.” At the same time, the Foundation has turned to companies where they have invested to implement their charitable program. The Foundation has made more than $250 million in charitable grants “to companies in which the foundation holds corporate stocks and bonds…with the grants directed at projects like developing new drugs and health monitoring systems and creating mobile banking services.””
https://nonprofitquarterly.org/is-the-gates-foundation-out-of-control/
Absolutely an act of nature. Thats what diseases are. They spread through populations. It is an act of God, unless you believe the virus was made by humans in a lab, then it is murder, but not by me or you, it would be murder by the lab who created the virus. We are just trying to live our lives and survive. Comparing that to us humans, fallen beings, murdering the Son of God is pure blasphemy.
That two different strains of Coronavirus emerged simultaneously suggests this was an act of man, not an act of nature nor an act of God.
With all due respect, the crucifixion of Christ was the epoch of the Christian faith and not considered a tragedy in any way, whatsoever. The Roman Catholic Church was built on that story.
Apparently we went to different churches…Coming back from the dead, good. Being killed by Roman Soldiers, bad.
And if the killing didn’t happen where would the church be?
Some say History is the biggest lie of them all.
What will the future generations think about the consensus of so many people to subjugate themselves and believe a system that has killed and caused the most suffering in the world.
Democide.
Is it not odd that heart disease isn’t more in the headlines these days, you know, if we are all so concerned about people’s health, and the sheer number of fast food restaurants that feed a large number of children everyday.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article244975825.html
Gates foundation earned 28 billion in investment income in the last 5 years…(wtf are they investing in?)
https://nonprofitquarterly.org/is-the-gates-foundation-out-of-control/
I think the covid smoke-crack-hype-screen is absolutely necessary to distract and obfuscate from just about everything else that is newsworthy, but gets buried on page 6 .
The news cycle is a beast to manage.
Is it possible to think about any other important things that aren’t manipulated more than this?
Yep. The devaluation of our currency, and huge, huge national debt should be hot topic right now….but it’s not. Do you know what Modern Monetary Theory is? Are you prepared for the hugely inflationary cycle the fed is instigating right now? Hint: your cash will be worth much less…and We The People WILL be paying that national debt, no matter how many programs and services have to be cut to do it…
That’s all part of “The Great Reset”. Devalue the dollar and crash the economy so our “saviors” can step in with an emergency economic plan issuing some sort of stop-gap electronic fiat that must be used… for our own good. Mastercard and the Gates Foundation are already running a beta program in West Africa with a biometric debit card linked to a “health” passport.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/africa-trust-stamp-covid-19-vaccine-record-payment-system/269346/
If in doubt just check this stuff through World Economic Gorum, Mastercard, Gates Foundation and Truststamp. The details are spelled out in their own press releases.
Yeah I thought that the price of reefer exploding was due to legalization and the busts that have been happening. That is part of it for sure. Then again, all the permitted farms are selling on the black market, and from the size of the busts in the news, I would say that the black market hasn’t really slowed down at all. The more I look at it, I realize that my food costs more, lumber and materials cost more, heck just about every consumer good costs more. The price of gold is headed through the roof and so is the price of reefer right a long with it. I think we have already done far more damage to our currency than we know and the evidence is right in front of our faces every time we go to the store. Put it together people, inflation is already here. Oh but keep printing that money, its going to “save” everybody. UBI is going to be the golden ticket to restoring our nation, for sure, nothing could go wrong.
There have been four deaths so far, there certainly is a pandemic and no one can tell anyone else to move on and expect they will accommodate. How the pandemic is addressed is the only reasonable discussion to have.
Yes!
Isn’t moving on one way to address it?
You may not think it’s an acceptable way, but it is a way.
Who is not being reasonable?
It is ” a way” certainly. The question is whether it is a reasonable way. And that is a more complex issue than that answer. While the shuttering of the economy due to government order has caused IMO unnecessary damage, the virus itself causes damage and pandemics of any level cause recessions too. So reasonable (that should be the debate, not existence) measures to mitigate the effects of the disease is a function of government. Wasting time on a debate whether an illness exists at all when it clearly does is just as bad as excessive reaction because it equally prevents doing what is reasonable.
You do what you want, just stop interfering with my rights to control my destiny and live my life my way. I’m not hurting you, despite what the collectivist would have you believe. I’m moving on, life is too short to live in fear and wait for a vaccine to save us. We have always had disease in the world, it’s a fact of life, and I accept it. I’ll take my chances….pretty sure I’m not going to be the first one under 80 to die in Humboldt, but there I go again with all that fact and logic….
The complaint that you have been unreasonably interfered with is somewhat true in my opinion. But what you do also affects me and some interference would not be unreasonable. Keeping large gathering from happening where the infections would spread radically is not unreasonable for example. There is a balance to be had.
No. Not if everyone at that gathering chooses to accept the risk. It’s our right, it’s our free will. But by all means, feel free to stay home if you want to, I’m not here to judge you.
The problem also arises when one or more leave the gathering, not just when they enter it.
The freedom to choose to possibly expose and infect oneself or others consentually is entirely different than assuming one or more are free to possibly expose and infect others without consent as a result of, and after attendance at said gathering.
That would be imposing, uninvited.
Like someone crashing your party that might be contagious?
Would you like having no choice but to Tango with them or maybe drink from the same bar glass?
Or would you be offended and have the bouncer give them the bums rush?
Now maybe you get the idea.
Others who have not given their consent to the additional risk to the general public should not be exposed unduly by the careless acts of others.
Simple.
Unlikely to convince those who aren’t already convinced of that, however.
One could always feel just as free to quarantine for two weeks before and two weeks after they attend the gathering.
To expect some to isolate in order to stay safe from others who may so carelessly mingle is absurd.
Not judging, just weighing it.
You give you consent by showing up at my party….and I give my consent by letting you in the door….
Apparently you feel you don’t need anyone’s elses consent to facilitate community spread beyond those who would cross the threshold in excessive numbers, such as the consent of those of us who through such inconsideration might become casualties, exposed by you or your guests after leaving your super spreader event.
You seem reluctant or unable to properly address or even discuss that concern.
Not everyone has scruples, but unfortunately they only sound contagious.
I believe only certain people are genetically predisposed to them, so don’t worry, if you don’t have them by now, just relax, it probably isn’t going to ever happen, and hopefully, you will be fine.
Let me guess, an only child?
Let me be the first to say there is much hypocrisy and seems to be little rhyme or reason to what is allowed or not allowed.
I don’t really think people having a big wedding is any different riskwise than what is still happening every day on commercial aircraft, especially internationally,
or at subway terminals, etc., etc.
Go for it.
Inconsideration abounds.
If you do decide to party big, could you all wear a maga hat or some other standard for a couple of weeks so if I see you I can avoid you in order to protect myself?
SOME People Were Lucky to not Be Over VACCINATED, as a child, giving them a strong immune system, healthy gut flora, and the wisdom to connect the dots between choice and consequence.
Some people just don’t understand that concept.
If you don’t like free people engaged in manufacturing freedom and living a life without your permission, then you might just be a closet control freak.
If you have a problem with making America great, you can trade places with someone who appreciates the independent lifestyle of those people with deep rootstock.
It always is a vicious cycle.
Right on
Consent. I understand the need in some situations. I understand the necessity in others. But so many people have become obsessed with consent its sickening. Must I ask permission of people I don’t know to do normal everyday things? Guess what? Diseases have been with us for millennia and they will never go away. If you are afraid of diseases that are literally everywhere, blame your parents for being born, not us for trying to live our lives. The consent to be exposed to disease was your head coming out your momma’s birth canal. Can’t tell you how many diseases babies get from the simple action of birth. So everybody’s consent to this matter was given at that moment in time.
Another thing, I don’t think a single person on this thread would be going out and purposefully infecting people with coronavirus. I know I wouldn’t and I don’t think anyone else would either, regardless of those of you who would like to think otherwise. So that basically blows your whole murder by spread of covid crap out of the water. I’m no legal buff, but I have been in trouble, and I know for a fact that for a murder charge to stick, there has to be intent, and I know that I would never intentionally spread any disease. There is also a certain amount of accepted, consensual risk by sharing the public space. By the mere act of being in the public space, one has accepted the inherent risk of potentially contracting a disease. Don’t want to give your consent? Don’t go out then.
I am sure that carelessness should never result in a murder charge legally but morally is another matter.
“1933 Germany”
Would you have any idea what would happen In the next ten years to you and your family if you were Jewish?
History always repeats itself.
That’s a difficult concept for some to grasp.
Very few can stay home indefinitely. Especially after 5 months of it. They have the same right as you do to go out. Many have to work and risk exposure. You can interpret it’s your right to do what you want without considering those around you but you can stay home too and do whatever you want without endangering others just as easily as you say others can stay home to avoid being endangered. An inability to find a compromise is a victory of pride over common sense.
There is no compromise for the ultra wealthy with an agenda to oversee the
controllled demolition of an economy.
So what’s next, a generation of brown shirts with college loans and no choice but to go door to door and violate your liberties and personal space, because it is just a job.
This is when government is overstepping it’s bounds, and If you weren’t raised by independent, free, and critical thinking parents, you will be a part of the government minder class that has no choice because the economy was squandered while you complained about those potential covid cases.
4 old people dies here.
Sounds like an hour in the inner city blues.
🕯🌳I haven’t read any fact or logic in any of your statements yet.🖖
I’m curious, do you think Humboldt exists as an island? Have you not read about the rest of the country? The world?
You can certainly argue the significance of both the event and the response to it while trying to balance what would’ve happened had there been no response vs what happened to the economy from the response but all of that is simply going to be speculation that can’t really be supported with hard evidence yet, only suggestions from anecdotes.
Locally we’ve been fortunate, probably a bit because we are largely rural and isolated and a bit simply because we’ve been lucky. But that doesn’t mean we will continue to be lucky, particularly as our ability to respond is restricted because we are rural and isolated.
The COVID-19 pandemic and the responses to it are complicated by so many factors that it’s impossible to predict which path is the best in the long-term. About the only thing you can clearly say is that if we pretend like nothing is happening and “move on”, the number of infections will increase dramatically and the rest will follow — hospitalizations, deaths, long-term complications for a significant number of people infected. And of course, some people will escape the infection largely unscathed. Whether or not you think you’re in the latter group, how you think about the implications of spreading the virus to people who might get seriously ill or die says a lot about you.
The rational response in my opinion is to be aggressive about limiting the spread of the virus and depending on the resilience of the American people to bounce back from the economic impacts. Do the things we can that are safe and essential and try to minimize risk in the things that we can do without for a while. And support the folks who are getting hit economically hard from the response.
Yes,because of the reasons you mentioned, we are a bit like an island. Clearly we haven’t had the problems that the urban areas have had….in Humboldt we do have covid, I don’t deny the existence of the disease….but we do not have a pandemic here, and I’m not going to pretend we do.
Your house is not currently on fire. Does that mean you don’t care if someone wants to set your living room carpert on fire? Of course not. You tell them not to risk your home. To wait to take – again- reasonable action to keep a pandemic infection out until you have been infected means you’ve waited too long. If you agree that some action to minimise the spread of infection is good, are you willing to do it? Like wash your hands frequently or at least keep your virus to yourself if you’re willing to get it by wearing a mask and staying away?
Four alleged deaths of senior citizens by Covid….IS NOT A FIRE.
🕯🌳But who’s to say that ⚡⚡won’t strike in your house?
The point is to take reasonable action to prevent a fire. Once the fire is there, it’s too late to have the indulgence of being reasonable any longer. Then it’s all out survival at any cost. Better to think ahead and avoid that total loss of options.
On the subject of fire, are y’all aware that while we have several very large fires burning in the state, Cal Fire is down nearly half of their inmate firefighting crews because of COVID? Failure to contain this pandemic is going to result in severe property loss and loss of life because of fires burning out of control with no healthy firefighters to stop them.
The disease that most concerns me is group think, and a lack of critical thinking.
Yessir. Correctamundo.
The thing that bugs me is that they just opened The Napa Valley Wineries no food needed. Of course Gavin and Nancy both have wineries there.
Nancy this morning while trying to get votes for the post office monies said nothing about the people losing there homes in the fires needing those stimulus checks in their accounts to help them.
Restaurants can’t even serve outside do to smoke. How many businesses can we sacrifice?
Follow the money.
https://ahtribune.com/world/covid-19/4346-following-the-money.html
You do realize that the implementation of the lockdown was to slow the spread of the coronavirus until we beefed up our medical capacity nation wide to handle any sort of surge or anything. You do realize that the lockdown was never supposed to be permanent when it was implemented, just a few weeks long to give medical staff time to prepare. You realize that the lockdown was never about keeping you or your loved ones safe from getting this virus, but rather to prepare the medical community for the time when EVERYONE gets the virus? You realize that right? That the lockdown was implemented to give time to the medical community to prepare, not to prevent all of us from catching the coronavirus. You realize that our medical officials have said time and again that everyone is going to catch it (whether that is true or not) and the lockdown had little to do with the general public and everything to do with preparing our hospitals and their staff?
My major complaint is that we have accomplished that and now the whole lockdown BS has turned into something else. My other major complaint is all these people saying that if you aren’t wearing a mask or social distancing you are going to kill my grandma, when our medical official already said that everyone is going to catch it no matter what and all these protocols were to prepare our medical community so they can save your grandma WHEN she catches it, not prevent your grandma from catching it altogether.
Just like the Patriot Act….when “temporary” measures queitly become the new “normal”
“There’s nothing more permanent than a temporary government program.”
-Milton Friedman
Milton Friedman?
Wasn’t he the “Free Market” genius who followed Henry Kissinger into Chile? Didn’t Colonel Pinochet (he appointed himself a General later) pretend to lead a coup actually led by the CIA, against a democratically elected government in the second oldest Democracy in the Western Hemisphere? Didn’t he and the University of Chicago “free marketers” return the control of Chilean copper mining to the big international mining conglomerates and create “free market” economic models for the newly “freed” Chilean People? Didn’t he do his “research” while thousands of Chileans disappeared and died in torture camps? Didn’t he help “prove” that socialism doesn’t work by creating a “free” market in the wake of what the Chilean people believe was a USA bombing of the elected socialist president?
That Milton Friedman?
Triggered? I doubt Friedman had much to do with Pinochet’s self-serving military actions.
https://www.hoover.org/research/how-milton-friedman-saved-chile
It’s like blaming Ford for the vehicle that was built as a means to an end, but ran over my family in a DUI hit and run.
Operator error.
Yes, triggered. I have family that opposed the duly elected government of Salvador Allende but who were nonetheless driven into exile by the murderous government of Pinochet.
The Hoover Institute article disingenuously misrepresents the situation in more ways than I can count. I’ll name a few.
They compare the performance of the Chilean economy under Pinochet and Friedman to its state under economic collapse. That economic collapse was brought about by the banksters to punish Chile for nationalizing the mines “owned” by Kennecott and Anaconda Copper. Chilean miners had been effectively enslaved for years, and the deal had always been that Chile bought peace with the USA by allowing that wealth to be extracted without benefit to the Chilean economy. The USA had also extracted wealth through ITT which also functioned as a CIA hub.
The Hoover article ignores that the nationalization of the copper industry continued and continues even now and is a major source of the wealth that rebuilt the Chilean Economy.
They pretend that Friedman’s influence didn’t really kick in until two years after the coup. However, I remember that Friedman spoke either before the coup or within days about the “opportunity” that Chile presented. I was a conservative young Republican then and was appalled that “freedom” was conflated with a military coup. In fact, the plan was completed four months before the coup in cooperation with the CIA.
The article relies on a general belief that Chile was a banana republic before the coup. In fact, it was a long-standing functional democracy, struggling with extreme class issues and American capitalist colonialism. The recovery from the economic collapse and, Pinochet and Friedman’s CIA backed plans was brought about by the faith of the Chilean people, right and left, in their community and in democratic processes.
I know we all need saints. Milton Friedman isn’t one of them.
An excerpt from the Wikipedia article you might find useful in looking again at the figures from the Hoover Institute.
“Some economists (such as Nobel laureate Amartya Sen) have argued that the experience of Chile in this period indicates a failure of the economic liberalism posited by thinkers such as Friedman, claiming that there was little net economic growth from 1975 to 1982 (during the so-called “pure Monetarist experiment”). After the catastrophic banking crisis of 1982 the state controlled more of the economy than it had under the previous socialist regime, and sustained economic growth only came after the later reforms that privatized the economy, while social indicators remained poor.[4] Pinochet’s dictatorship made the unpopular economic reorientation possible by repressing opposition to it. Rather than a triumph of the free market, the OECD economist Javier Santiso described this reorientation as “combining neo-liberal sutures and interventionist cures”.[5] By the time of sustained growth, the Chilean government had “cooled its neo-liberal ideological fever” and “controlled its exposure to world financial markets and maintained its efficient copper company in public hands”.[6]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_Chile
What a wonderful coincidence
Right on, b.
I don’t do saints or heroes.
Here’s a take on Friedman and Chile by one of the “Chicago Boys”.
http://www.josepinera.org/josepinera/Jp_ABC_Milton_Friedman.htm
From your wiki link:
“Friedman has wondered why some have attacked him for giving a lecture in Chile: “I must say, it’s such a wonderful example of a double standard, because I had spent time in Yugoslavia, which was a communist country. I later gave a series of lectures in China. When I came back from communist China, I wrote a letter to the Stanford Daily newspaper in which I said, ‘It’s curious. I gave exactly the same lectures in China that I gave in Chile. I have had many demonstrations against me for what I said in Chile. Nobody has made any objections to what I said in China. How come?'” He noted that his visit was unrelated to the political side of the regime and that, during his visit to Chile, he even stated that following his economic liberalization advice would help bring political freedom and the downfall of the regime.”
It’s not “what they SAID,” it’s what they did! The Chicago boys were the same folks who, under Friedman’s leadership, produced a template funded by the CIA for what to do after the change of leadership (also called a coup). This document was referred to as a “Brick” because it was so comprehensive. It was completed three months prior to the coup.
Friedman’s claim of innocence is completely fictitious.
“I gave the widow advice on what to do in the event of the untimely death of her husband, before she murdered her husband. I am deeply aggrieved by the insinuations that I had anything to do with the murder.” Poor Milton.
It’s in the damn Wikipedia article but it was a publicly known fact at the time. I probably read about it in the Wall Street Journal or Business Week. I was a Friedman fan up until then. Suddenly it all seemed sickeningly phony.
It’s not “what they SAID,” it’s what they did!
Mike drop.
I still don’t know why you’re trying to put the coup and subsequent atrocities on Friedman’a shoulders. All the accounts I’ve read is he didn’t meet with Pinochet until months after the coup… regardless, he certainly wasn’t running the military operations. He came up with an economic plan that operated on free market theory. The theory is solid, the problem is it opened the doors to government chartered agencies (corporations) to come in a loot resources. I doubt that had anything to with Friedman either.
Any economic upheaval is going to cause strife among a certain percentage of the population. Iceland after the 2008 boondoggle refused financial assistance from the world banksters and let their bloated financial institutions fail (what the USA should have done). The financial hit was swift and more severe, but the recovery was quicker and it created a more sound economy. My guess is Friedman’s model for Chile was similar. Certainly current economic indexes show that Chile has done pretty well.
Really, you don’t get it? I’m baffled.
I’ll try once more:
The economic collapse was a US bankster manufactured crisis.
The Chicago Boys and Milton Friedman contracted with the CIA before the coup to plan a post coup economy, a plan they completed before the coup. At minimum, that makes him an accessory before the crime, a co conspirator.
The Coup was a CIA/Henry Kissinger hit job.
Pinochet was a CIA stooge, not “strong man” and had to go full on nuts against any civil society elements that wanted a say in their government (right, moderate or left).
Friedman’s plan was put in place only after brutal repression squashed all other options.
The plan maybe didn’t even work except as compared to economic warfare.
The Icelanders refused to pay off the international bankers at all; they nullified the mortgages that failed. We should all take a lesson. Similar to the Chileans ending up with their own copper wealth. It always improves the economy to take the international grift out of the equation.
Thinking about it a little more I remember (in the 90’s maybe) hearing Friedman whine something to the effect of “I am a stupid man, a simple economic theorist who does not understand the workings of colonial repression.” They didn’t show him the soccer stadium filled with those who were to be tortured and disappeared.
I don’t think that kind of willful ignorance counts as innocence. And I don’t believe him anyway. Didn’t he win a damn Nobel Prize?
How many deaths in what age categories will be enough to be considered acceptable proof of a pandemic? There have been 21 hospitalizations out of 345 positives tests. That is about three times the rate of hospitalizations per infection than flu in the last flu season. While not of Black Death levels, it is certainly worth attention. The only real debate is how much and whether that attention is more damaging than helpful. Denying there is a pandemic at all is not reasonable.
Attention…sure. Destroy people’s livlihoods…no. And they are destroying lots of livelihoods right now. American entrapenuers have had a hard enough time with the Globalist selling them out, but this Scam-a-demic shutdown will be the end for many, many small businesses.
That is a reasonable position. As it is also one I share. Do you think that these businesses can do some things, like extra cleaning and making sure ventilation is good (my favorite bugaboo) ? Personally I like the distancing at check outs as I have never liked being crowded and frankly some people have no sense of personal space.
I think we all do what we think is best. My local stores don’t care and neither do their customers, no masks.
But some places would cater to the fear mob without a mandate. For example Eureka Natural Foods knows their customers are scared and would cater to them with masks required to make them feel safe. Basically free will. If you don’t like how a business is handling the pandemic, go somewhere else that makes you feel comfortable. Fear is a market that will be catered to by a percentage of businesses. And by all means we should stay home when sick, wash our hands, be sanitary….always, for the flu, cold, covid,ECT…
number of deaths has nothing to do with what is or isn’t considered a pandemic – how widespread a disease is is what defines a pandemic, regardless of death rates. Check any dictionary or encyclopedia.
Okay. So every year there is a flu pandemic, according to that definition….and we do almost nothing….certainly don’t shut down the world do we?
Once all the pieces are in place.
The needed to build the software to make the hardware more …..palatable.
Majority of the people on smart phones, smart tvs, all soaked in the same narrative.
No Netflix, no amazon, no interwebs….
No shut down wouldbe possible without the tax payer funded web and the reinforced hive mind that’s pushed into a new world normal for all…
It’s the opiate of the masses.
Where does the individual go?
To the hills?
We report the case of an 11-year-old child with multi- system inflammatory syndrome in children (MIS-C) related to COVID-19 who developed cardiac failure and died after 1 day of admission to hospital for treatment. An otherwise healthy female of African descent, the patient was admitted to the paediatric intensive care unit (ICU) with cardiovascular shock and persistent fever.
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https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2352-4642%2820%2930257-1
Moreover, the finding of SARS-CoV-2 in heart tissue indicates that myocardial inflammation was probably a primary response to the virus-induced injury to cardiac cells. The presence of SARS-CoV-2 in different cell types of cardiac tissue suggests potential mechanisms for heart damage. First, infection of cardiomyocytes probably leads to local inflammation in response to cell injury; both the virus-induced injury and the inflam- matory response could lead to necrosis of cardio- myocytes. The finding of viral particles in neutrophils supports the idea of virus-induced inflammation. Also, infection of endothelial cells in the endocardium could result in haematogenous spread of SARS-CoV-2 to other organs and tissues.
You could have shut everyone up in their houses, the child could have scraped their hand on a nail, got sepsis and had the same complications because you forced her to stay home. Reasonable caution takes into account both the effects of doing and not doing something over many cases, not just one. If rare bad possible outcome controls what is done, no one would ever do anything ever again.
yes. Many long term health issues. I don’t
think the annual flu does that.. Better not to get it it the first place.
Masks work. We would have a lot more cases if they didn’t. All the people working at the grocery stores, hardware,etc for all these months wear masks.
If masks did not work, all these places would have many cases.
Yes it can. Flu complications- ” Sinus and ear infections are examples of moderate complications from flu, while pneumonia is a serious flu complication that can result from either influenza virus infection alone or from co-infection of flu virus and bacteria. Other possible serious complications triggered by flu can include inflammation of the heart (myocarditis), brain (encephalitis) or muscle (myositis, rhabdomyolysis) tissues, and multi-organ failure (for example, respiratory and kidney failure). ” https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/symptoms.htm
What does it say when we have the technology to apply “natural selection” onto an unaware peaceful population?
NY governor cuomo threatened ted nugent with a 14 day quarantine If he showed up to support the police with a jam session.
Same governor gives an exemption to celebrities for the MTV BMW
https://deadline.com/2020/08/no-quarantine-rules-for-mtv-2020-vmas-report-1203020822/
the power of natural selection. ..?
Your outrage is not a response; it is a reaction and not a very well refined one. It doesn’t even allow you to look at the responses of others very clearly. Calm down and figure out how we get other people to respond in a rational way, regardless of their beliefs. Start working on yourself first.
Yeah, people say stupid things based on false “fear narratives.” You and I do that too or maybe we say smart things based on true fear narratives. That’s not any better.
I’m not singling you out because you’re wrong, but because in a particular way you are right. Look at my response to the Milton Friedman nonsense. Ullr asked if I was “triggered.” Damn right I was triggered and I can’t stop hating on Milton Friedman even though the man is dead. It doesn’t help.
We have got to calm down and start working on how to work together, especially when half of us have been duped by some stupid false (or half true) fear narrative. Especially when we’re being ganked by some stupid bunch of corporate slavery supporting propagandists. That’s happening all the time. We have got to get past it.
Daily update. Humboldt county death toll- covid-4, Marci kitchens-2
Yep. Drunk driving is more of a pandemic than this Scam-A-Demic for sure. And all the lost jobs, lost business’s, evictions, and forclosures that are coming down when the dust clears and it’s time to settle up….then people will start to see the real cost…
Cuomo says if we save just one person then all the problems they have created with this pandemic response will be worth it. Cuomo is wrong, and he is preying on people’s emotions and ignoring fact and reason.
Pretty funny you have A LOT to say for someone who “doesn’t care ” and is going to “carry on like normal”. Are you going to come here ever day to tell us you don’t care? Now that’s hilarious.
Oh I care. Who Cares is a reference to…Who Cares what my name is…
And don’t forget ol marci is up for parole, she may be able to beat covid in humboldt yet.
cv
California Court System Lifts Eviction Moratorium After Lawsuit
https://www.theepochtimes.com/california-court-system-lifts-eviction-moratorium-after-lawsuit_3469374.html?ref=brief_News&utm_source=morningbrief&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb&__sta=pbh.jgvxsqu%7CYHQ&__stm_medium=email&__stm_source=smartech
Nearly half of California Wine Country businesses closed in the coronavirus pandemic won’t reopen, says Yelp
The global pandemic has set the table for a disastrous exodus of businesses, a new study conducted by Yelp’s online data service reveals.
Based on the number of business owners who checked “closed” on their Yelp pages, about 3,000 San Francisco Bay Area businesses closed permanently from March 1 to July 10 as a result of the government shelter-in-place orders during the coronavirus pandemic. Of those, 239 were located in the Napa and Santa Rosa areas, the only two metropolitan areas the company separated out for the North Bay.
All together in Napa and Sonoma counties, 488 closed temporarily or permanently because of the shelter orders.
And a number of stakeholders are concerned that the number of permanent closures could grow substantially. Granted, not all businesses are signed up for Yelp accounts.
“I know there’s some small businesses that couldn’t weather the storm. It’s been hard to keep their doors open, with many having to pivot to other things,” Napa Chamber of Commerce Travis Stanley told the Business Journal. “In a sense, it’s inevitable what’s happened, but most are preventing it the best way they can.”
The fight is far reaching in the Golden State.
The San Francisco-Oakland-Hayward metro area experienced 5,048 total business closures during the pandemic, with 2,065 labeled permanently, according to Yelp.
The Silicon Valley’s San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara metro area endured 1,697 closures, with 627 marked as shuttering for good.
The Sacramento-Roseville-Arden-Arcade area didn’t fare much better, having taken on 1,511 closures
As it turns out, California gained the most combined permanent and temporary business closures of all the states in the nation with 29,351 shuttering.
https://www.northbaybusinessjournal.com/article/industrynews/nearly-half-of-california-wine-country-businesses-closed-in-the-coronavirus/?trk_msg=3RO7MHQD6D3K78N2PHFHF3DGRK&trk_contact=9BJIFDA52N6DI17FT70JT5ABG8&trk_module=new&trk_sid=24MGRVACB0H30I2E1I4VEIHRRK&utm_email=C4DCF5A3246124E0748DA4E38A&g2i_eui=hWtcry%2b1OC7XmN4b3Uoq3Q%3d%3d&g2i_source=newsletter&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=https%3a%2f%2fwww.northbaybusinessjournal.com%2farticle%2findustrynews%2fnearly-half-of-california-wine-country-businesses-closed-in-the-coronavirus%2f&utm_campaign=nbbj_daily
I wonder how many suicides, domestic abuses, and drug deaths will arise out of the above statistics. Nothing like financial stress to accelerate alcohol abuse.
All to make sure that a few people are SAFE.
It’s behavior like this that allowed the Jews to be shipped to the work camps.
It’s our nature to let shit roll down hill.
https://ahtribune.com/world/covid-19/4346-following-the-money.html
Thanks for the link PW.
You do know that that site is a suspected Iranian disinformation ploy, right?
It’s been kicked off Twitter, Facebook and Google.
You may think them getting themselves kicked off of major social media sites proves they are not part of the “deep state”. But…really….sometimes a disinformation site run out of some foreign nation is just that.
Perhaps you should ask yourself why so many of your links posted here are like that.
https://nonprofitquarterly.org/is-the-gates-foundation-out-of-control/
I don’t trust anyone who can’t see the programming, nor look at history as a reference point for the attempts to subjugate a peaceful population.
I think most people who were brought up believing in Santa Claus and when they found out that Santa Claus was living in the same house, yet went along to get along, are a part of the brain washed majority.
History can Teach Us, if we care to connect the dots.
Corruption is legal, BTW .
What better way to take care of Malthusian population than kill the elderly with a virus and unborn children with abortion?
Billionaire club in bid to curb overpopulation
America’s richest people meet to discuss ways of tackling a ‘disastrous’ environmental, social and industrial threat
John Harlow, Los Angeles
Sunday May 24 2009, 1.00am BST, The Sunday Times
SOME of America’s leading billionaires have met secretly to consider how their wealth could be used to slow the growth of the world’s population and speed up improvements in health and education.
Described as the Good Club by one insider it included David Rockefeller Jr, the patriarch of America’s wealthiest dynasty, Warren Buffett and George Soros, the financiers, Michael Bloomberg, the mayor of New York, and the media moguls Ted Turner and Oprah Winfrey.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/billionaire-club-in-bid-to-curb-overpopulation-d2fl22qhl02
Billionaires Try to Shrink World’s Population, Report Says
By Robert Frank
May 26, 2009 11:57 am ET
Last week’s meeting of the Great and the Good (or the Richest and Richer) was bound to draw criticism.
buffettgates0526_E_20090526111421.jpgAssociated Press
The New York meeting of billionaires Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, David Rockefeller, Eli Broad, George Soros, Ted Turner, Oprah, Michael Bloomberg and others was described by the Chronicle of Philanthropy as an informal gathering aimed at encouraging philanthropy. Just a few billionaires getting together for drinks and dinner and a friendly chat about how to promote charitable giving.
There was no agenda, we were told. And no plan for a follow-up meeting.
But in an age of fallen wealth idols, it was inevitable that a meeting of billionaire minds would draw scrutiny. Surely all that money and power in one room had to spell trouble for the rest of us.
An article in the Times of London, headlined “Billionaire Club in Bid to Curb World Population,” said the issues discussed in the top-secret meeting included health care, education and–by far the most controversial–slowing the global population growth.
“Taking their cue from Gates they agreed that overpopulation was a priority,” the article said, adding that “this could result in a challenge to some Third World politicians who believe contraception and female education weaken traditional values.”
Such a stand wouldn’t be surprising. Mssrs. Gates, Buffett and Turner have been quietly worrying about Malthusian population problems for years. Mr. Gates in February outlined a plan to try to cap the world’s population at 8.3 billion people, rather than the projected 9.3 billion at which the population is expected to peak.
https://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2009/05/26/billionaires-try-to-shrink-worlds-population-report-says/
https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/economics/article/3098392/australias-drug-habit-booms-asias-el-chapo-has-coronavirus
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2020/08/13/dallas-methadone-clinics-are-overwhelmed-by-an-influx-of-patients-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/
https://azdailysun.com/news/state-and-regional/health-officials-report-increases-in-drug-overdoses-suicides-during-covid-19-pandemic/article_1718a448-b6c7-5a58-9cce-d463f75d35bc.html
Everything’s a trade off in lockdowns.
Those deaths will then be attributed to Covid instead of to the reaction to Covid. In a way they already are in some statistics and models b/c “excess deaths” are sometimes being 100% attributed to Covid.
Covid is a real thing. It’s the way Covid has been and is being handled (at all but the personal level) that is BS.
Thow the Covid out with the bureaucratic and political class.
Enough is enough.
Let’s focus on jobs for the 99% who need to pay rent, not just handouts from tax man.
Humboldt fatalities numbers pretty much tell us that COVID-19 has been in Humboldt long before February of 2020. Doesn’t take much to figure that one out.
For those that only listen to the experts…..
NEW YORK, 27 JULY 2020 – An additional 6.7 million children under the age of five could suffer from wasting – and therefore become dangerously undernourished – in 2020 as a result of the socio-economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, UNICEF warned today.
According to an analysis published in The Lancet, 80 per cent of these children would be from sub-Saharan Africa and South Asia. Over half would be from South Asia alone.
“It’s been seven months since the first COVID-19 cases were reported and it is increasingly clear that the repercussions of the pandemic are causing more harm to children than the disease itself,” said UNICEF Executive Director Henrietta Fore. “Household poverty and food insecurity rates have increased. Essential nutrition services and supply chains have been disrupted. Food prices have soared. As a result, the quality of children’s diets has gone down and malnutrition rates will go up.”
Wasting is a life-threatening form of malnutrition, which makes children too thin and weak, and puts them at greater risk of dying, poor growth, development and learning. According to UNICEF, even before the COVID-19 pandemic, 47 million children were already wasted in 2019. Without urgent action, the global number of children suffering from wasting could reach almost 54 million over the course of the year. This would bring global wasting to levels not seen this millennium.
The Lancet analysis finds that the prevalence of wasting among children under the age of five could increase by 14.3 per cent in low- and middle-income countries this year, due to the socio-economic impacts of COVID-19. Such an increase in child malnutrition would translate into over 10,000 additional child deaths per month with over 50 per cent of these deaths in sub-Saharan Africa.
The estimated increase in child wasting is only the tip of the iceberg, UN agencies warn. COVID-19 will also increase other forms of malnutrition in children and women, including stunting, micronutrient deficiencies and overweight and obesity as a result of poorer diets and the disruption of nutrition services. UNICEF reports from the early months of the pandemic suggest a 30 per cent overall reduction in the coverage of essential – and often life-saving – nutrition services. In some countries, these disruptions have reached 75 per cent to 100 per cent under lockdown measures. For example, in Afghanistan and Haiti, fear of infection and lack of protective equipment for health workers has led to an estimated 40 per cent and 73 per cent decline, respectively, in admissions to treat severe wasting in children. In Kenya, admissions dropped by 40 per cent. Over 250 million children globally are missing the full benefits of vitamin A supplementation due to COVID-19.
Plenty more
https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/unicef-additional-67-million-children-under-5-could-suffer-wasting-year-due-covid-19
This information should lead to everyone working cooperatively toward solutions. I am not convinced that the shut down solutions are either well designed or well promoted. I am also not convinced that the oppositional approach is thoughtful or solution oriented. My faith in American democracy– an approximation at its best– and specifically the American Republic is shaky these days. Too many people can’t read anything that contradicts our biases or our ideals.
https://www.law.com/therecorder/2020/04/22/covid-19-lockdown-orders-must-get-habeas-corpus-review/
Some people just have grown to lazy to know when the line has been crossed.
Drag queen story time anyone?
I think there needs to be a PUBLIC PROCESS for responding to the Covid 19 crisis.
I’m not sure that Judicial Review is the best way to evaluate the decisions made about Covid 19 nor to use create a public process going forward. But emergency situation has been going on too long for decisions to be made in the office, behind the counter without real open public decision making. There is no “enemy” from whom the process needs to be protected.
The process of a “public safety” mandate related to a novel infectious disease may be new. There may be few precedents. We may have a certain motivation as a citizenry to allow public officials to carry out their work responsibilities to the best of their abilities without much interference.
The ways that people have spoken against and for the choices made by officials have not been particularly productive. More haranguing and harooing than conscious thought about how various actions would play out. Let the rabble-rousers and debaters see who wins a shouting match? No. Turn it over to the lawyers to work out? That doesn’t sound right either.
But, indeed, this has gone on long enough and promises to go on far too much longer.
Qui Bono?
“There is no enemy”…
Brother, for someone who just spent a good deal if time discussing Milton and the CIA removal of the second most successful “democracy” in the western hemisphere, you sure don’t seem to understand how ‘coups” have also transformed with the times.
Intelligence isn’t wisdom.
By “no enemy” I mean no foreign enemy to justify secrecy. I am proposing to demand a PUBLIC PROCESS.
I do believe that the state is becoming more of an enemy, unless we create a Public Process. Which one?
How would you Define the globalist element that act with impunity within our borders.
That billion dollar boondoggle called the gates foundation.
Since When Does The WHO and the UN dictate what free American people do?
There are no treaties that can supercede our bill of rights, due process, and our inherent liberties, …
Unless we give Consent.
I do not give my consent for rule by the mob, and international treaties.
Controlled Demolition of the economy.
Your inability to see how the same forces at work in Chile, have been working on this country for decades.
I recommend you look into the investigation into tax exempt foundations, led by the Reese Committee.
I suppose the biggest problem was Chile’s population wasn’t armed to the teeth, so the tactic here is psychological.
“The courts or the streets”, my friend, the only two ways things get resolved.
I can appreciate Chileans and their suffering from a different kind of coup.
A coup by any other name is just a coup.
I am aware and quite concerned.
I have spent the largest part of my effort on changing the situation. Contesting with it. Trying to modify the situation. Trying to get people around me what they need in order to participate as empowered citizens.
Succeeding some, not enough.
What I see is wholesale Bait and switch, and moving the goalposts as much as we allow.
There is no middle ground here, covid has proven to be full of inconsistencies, censorship, overblown reaction, pay to play, and am opportunity for supranational interests to do what they’ve done to dozens of counties on record. I’m aware of the IMF and other elements that took Argentina down in the 90s, and they’ve been talking about it openly in the think tanks, if you are paying attention.
If you want USA to fail, support this lock down and the destruction of a huge part of our independent economy.
They say the underground economy is equal to, if not larger than the above ground economy, and if are a bureaucrat, that is tax money they don’t have to spend.
Vicious circle of apathy and ignorance.
Sometimes You Have To MARVEL At What A Dedicated And Committed Group Of People Can Do To A Peaceful Population.
Let the human body and immune system deal with this bullshit, and let the cards fall where they may.
I lost a family member to cancer, and we seem to have forgotten about why heart disease and cancer exist, diabetes, etc.
Should we ban junk /fast food, cigarettes, cars, alcohol. ..and where does death by government fall on your radar?
Waking up means looking at the unfortunate truth about government.
When there is liability protection for those people running the shutdown , medical advisors, bureaucrats, and censorship of a voice that rebuts the narrative, and a brainwashed population by talking points, and borderline malfeasance by a pliable medical establishment, you have effectively seized a country by overt means.
“The enemy is ourselves “, because we don’t understand the history running up to the catastrophic world events that have allowed the few to control the many.
And…
They don’t plan on letting you go back to the old normal, they are going to keep moving the goal post!
The World Health Organization said Friday that a vaccine will be a “vital tool” in the global fight against the coronavirus, but it won’t end the Covid-19 pandemic on its own and there’s no guarantee scientists will find one.
World leaders and the public must learn to manage the virus and make permanent adjustments to their daily lives to bring the virus down to low levels, WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said during a news conference from the agency’s Geneva headquarters. “At the same time, we will not, we cannot go back to the way things were.”
Throughout history, outbreaks and pandemics have changed economies and societies, he said.
“In particular, the Covid-19 pandemic has given new impetus to the need to accelerate efforts to respond to climate change,” he said. “The Covid-19 pandemic has given us a glimpse of our world as it could be:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/21/who-warns-a-coronavirus-vaccine-alone-will-not-end-pandemic.html
They might let us go back to normal….they might repeal the Patriot Act, they might repeal the temporary removal of the Gold Standard…they might, but we all know they won’t. Get ready for “Shelter In Place” text messages sent to you by Uncle Sam to be a regular thing…..as long as we are dumb enough to take it, they’ll keep giving it… we’re on our way to a Banana Republic, with Kangaroo Courts, Propaganda News, devalued currency, you know…the whole nine yards
And here’s the hardest part to help people understand.
They are constantly giving their consent.
Act like a slave, they will absolutely treat you like one.
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On August 18, 2020, Senator Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), and Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) submitted a letter to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Commissioner Stephen Hahn, demanding information regarding their actions taken on the use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19. “Physicians are concerned that the FDA’s actions regarding hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) may be directly costing lives by limiting outpatient access to this potentially beneficial treatment,” the letter stated.
The senators wrote that the FDA’s actions on HCQ have “led to misinformation and confusion across the country. Some states have restricted the ability of physicians to write and pharmacies to fill HCQ and CQ prescriptions.” The senators are correct in that the FDA has done a fine job of creating confusion, as Corey’s Digs has been documenting their actions on HCQ since the beginning of this “pandemic.” This also comes on the heels of the historical 24-hour censoring takedown of America’s Frontline Doctors, who have been fighting to get critical information out on the benefits of HCQ.
The senators point out that “the licensed physicians we have heard from… have pointed to the low mortality rates in other countries—like India, Turkey, South Korea, and Morocco—that are using HCQ widely on outpatient COVID-19 populations before the disease progresses to more lethal stages of the virus that require hospitalization.”
They have given the FDA a deadline of 5:00 p.m. on August 25, 2020 to submit information on the following requests:
• Please provide any studies and data that informed the FDA’s apparent determination that giving HCQ or CQ to COVID-19 infected outpatients within seven days from the onset of symptoms, under a doctor’s supervision, will have no clinical effect and may be harmful to the patient.
• Please provide any scientific studies, medical papers and data involving COVID-19 outpatients that have started HCQ or CQ under a doctor’s supervision and begun in the ambulatory care outpatient setting. This includes post-exposure outpatient treatment and/or pre-exposure prophylaxis. This should not include late stage studies involving patients started on HCQ while in hospital.
• Please provide and public statements or records that FDA has issued to clarify that the FDA does not regulate the practice of medicine and that state governments may not regulate the sale or prohibit the sale of prescription drugs.
• Please provide any potential treatments for COVID-19 that have been utilized internationally, whether those treatments are authorized or approved by the FDA, and what steps the FDA has taken to ensure that these treatments are available in the U.S.
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