Seven Additional Cases Reported Today, August 14
Press release from Humboldt County COVID19 – Joint Information Center:
Seven new cases of COVID-19 were reported today, bringing to 309 the total number of county residents who have tested positive for the virus.
The county has recorded 76 new cases since Aug. 1, and three new hospitalizations this week. Humboldt County Health Officer Dr. Teresa Frankovich said the recent rate of infections and new hospitalizations emphasize the need for all county residents, businesses and organizations to work together to limit spread of COVID-19.
“Early on, the impact of this virus was much higher in heavily populated areas but we are now clearly beginning to see an increasing impact in rural America, including Humboldt County,” Dr. Frankovich said. “Public Health, the Emergency Operations Center and all community partners continue their work to increase testing capacity, expand contact tracing and support the health care system, but ultimately Humboldt County residents are really the most critical response team for this pandemic. Everyone doing their part to limit spread will help to keep transmission rates manageable and protect our community.”
Today’s alert level stands at three or level orange. Visit humboldtgov.org/dashboard to view the county’s Alert Level Assessment tool.
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Earlier Test Results:
- Three New Positive Cases in Humboldt County on July 30
- Humboldt Adds 100 Positive COVID Cases in July After Two New Confirmed on July 31
- Three New Cases Reported Since Friday
- Nine New Cases Today, August 4
- Ten New Cases of COVID-19 Reported Today, August 5
- 25 New Cases Reported in Humboldt County Today, August 6
- Two New Cases Reported Today; Public Health Lab Flooded Due to Plumbing Problem
- Seven New Cases of COVID-19 Since Friday
- Seven New Cases of COVID-19 on August 11
- Six New Cases Today August 12
- Three New Cases Reported Today, August 13
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Whatever happens, it’s vitally important for HSU to open so students can meet all the professors making money off of them.
I sure hope the patriotic professors of HSU have been able to make ends meet during their time of strife.
Those of us in retail will never understand how hard it is to be a professor in this time of pandemonium
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8611385/Thai-kindergartners-sealed-perspex-boxes-playtime-fight-against-coronavirus.html
Everybody could wear these awesome dystopian covid-1984 bubbles, because safety.
A cage for each of us
We’re well and truly into it now. Those predicting the worse to those benighted people who dismissed the nature of a pandemic will see some vindication while so will those who did the dismissing. Because it certainly will be neither as bad nor as meaningless as those extremists have fought over for months. In the end there will be many missteps and failures because, while the virus is not inconsequential, the most practical and useful steps of getting reasonably ready without making worse will not please either group who will have blame their favorite targets for everything. Hope both sides have prepared either way.
You better wear goggles. All the finger pointing could put an eye out.😜
Zero new deaths. One new hospitalization. Best wishes to all for a thorough and quick recovery.
🕯🌳Your starting to sound like you want people to die or be laid up in the hospital? Hmmmmmm.
Reading comprehension is clearly not one of your strengths.
I appreciate this perspective, slow spread is actually what we want. This is a good thing. Keeping the spread slow is important.
Political Horseshit!!! Are they on ventilators? Asymptomatic? Somewhere in between? Why won’t they give us this information? [edit] I’d draw all you sheeple a picture, but I’m not an artist. Look up (not when it’s raining), the sky’s still there.
Every day we see the proof that this virus isn’t a big deal. Cases do not tell you anything. Imagine if you had a daily case rate for common colds.
2018-2019 Influenza had an estimated 35,000 deaths attributed to it in the US. Currently we’re at ~160,000 (though by some estimates there are an excess of 200,000 deaths over “normal”) which suggests that at least for some folks, this is a big deal even if it isn’t for you.
And that’s not including the substantial number of folks with long-term health problems from the COVID-19 virus.
Enter this into your search engine, midwit: “Pneumonia”
You do realize those are different things, don’t you?
In any case, I won’t bother to engage in a further battle of wits with you since you appear to be unarmed.
Some pneumonias are and some aren’t. Click, click. Surprise! Your gun isn’t loaded either.
That was kind of the point — lumping deaths from pneumonia together when they arise from a variety of sources isn’t directly comparable to deaths attributed to a specific viral infection any more than attributing all heart disease deaths to a single cause is.
1918 flu killed 675,000 Americans, 3-5% worldwide which would be 10-15 million Americans today. Covid isn’t anything like the Spanish Flu.
Exactly, no big deal, time to stop spreading fears!
Tell that it’s not a big deal to the three folks hospitalized this week [edit]
I want to start a new game. The game will consist of 100 pictures that show large crowds like beach scenes from spring break, Trump rallies, packed bars ect where no one is wearing a mask and then slip in Waldo wearing a mask and the team that spots the most Waldos wins. I call it the ‘Find Waldo with a Mask’ game. Good idea yeah. I’m gonna talk to Hasbro.
7 equals 70 more cases according to Dr. Ennis , fatality rate still dropping.
Great news, thats 7 cases closer to herd immunity! Way to go Humboldt!
Get out and live life to its fullest, this virus fear is nothin but fear, if ur scared, wear a mask and stay home like scardey cats do!
Look, we get that you believe the vast number of scientists and governments of the world are in on some hoax to make people wear masks. You’re entitled to your opinion but calling out the vast majority of humans as cowards for believing that the scientists and governments are trying to stop people from dying seems…well, unlikely to bring folks onboard with your opinion. And is vastly unpleasant. I get believing that you are right. I don’t get sneering at everyone else as cowards for trusting authorities.
“cowards for trusting authorities”
That’s practically the definition of coward, Kym
We have the luxury of access to information – anyone reading information for themselves can easily discern that the response from “authorities” is not only disproportionate to the problem, but astoundingly ineffective. If this were not the case, “trusting authorities” would be better, because you have verified and found them to be trustworthy.
Regarding “trusting science,” may I introduce you to something called the “Reproducibility crisis”
You make a good point.
There’s plenty of people making poor decisions, based on the “reproducibility crisis” .
I can absolutely get behind that.
Old bumper sticker: “Question Authority!”
New bumper sticker: “Trust Authority!”
Guess I’m just old school.
You may also like:
All I ever learned I learned in a comment section
Or
I don’t need a doctor for testicular cancer, because I don’t believe in it
Or
I trust Alex Jones pyschosis more than a professional
You know, I don’t always think that trusting authorities is a good idea. I’m, as a whole against war, for instance. But I sure as heck don’t think soldiers who trust authorities to send them on just missions for just causes are cowards. I don’t think those two things equate at all.
Trusting governments is something that should be done gingerly. They tend to have agendas that don’t always value the same things as I do. But trusting scientists, governments and journalists…(multiple different governments and multiple different journalists) is a vastly different thing.
I do enjoy the hubris involved in thinking that reading a few blogs or links on the internet puts you in the same intellectually credible category as folks who have spent decades studying, researching, and peer-review publishing about a topic and that you can rationalize ignoring those folks because someone on OAN told you to.
I just don’t get it. I try to be informed but I’m totally willing to hire an attorney to deal with any legal issues I might have, I figure a race car driver can probably drive better than I can, and a master gardener probably knows more than I do what those little bugs on my roses are. If 90% of scientists who deal in infectious diseases across the globe agree on something, I’m not saying they can’t be wrong but I’m pretty sure it’s not a conspiracy to keep Donald Trump from being re-elected.
I like playing the odds. And the odds are, the people who are educated in a subject know more than someone who also believes that having sex with demons cause illnesses.
In today’s cancel culture and me too, career doctors have been fired for speaking out, the whistle blowers have had their lives made miserable, just to defend the ignorant masses from potentials hazards of not being well informed.
Why do media platforms censor doctors, scientists, and brave people, who share their insights from years of experience in the field?
Why does the WHO and the UN have any input On what information Americans can Share between consenting adults?
You may not fully understand coersion on a global scale, but many doctors, and scientists don’t want to sacrifice their own families well being to expose information that few people will appreciate.
most people will gladly help their neighbors for a day, or a week , but not many have time to invest in others outside if their homes for extended periods.
Most community minded people are good caring people, but there is simply a line most are not willing to cross if it will endanger their own families well being and financial integrity.
This is why the AMA , NIH, CDC, WHO and other institutions like them have such a huge influence on most people who are granted a LICENSE TO PRACTICE, that can be revoked.
Imagine if some Group planted information in your personal computer that would get you in a lot of trouble , or that group threatened your family. Many people are aware of Julian Assanges of the world, and you can be marginalized if you threaten the establishments authority.
We don’t raise mother Teresas anymore.
I follow a civil rights activist on IG, he has 3.6 million followers, and was plagued by trolls. He hired a private cyber – security firm and found that thousands of bots and fake accounts designed to spread lies and misinformation . It’s suspected that corporations and/or governments are behind it and it’s PAID ACTIVITY to reduce his effectiveness. As soon as he went private and started weeding them out the spam, threats and misinformation dropped by 95%.
You best believe Kym, that you have bot and fake account trolls commenting on your site. Loco does also. They stand out like a sore thumb.
Like who?
The big liebowski is Sid, along with 6 other names every day.
Guaranteed.
He’s always had a crush on your comments.
The claim was “bots”. None of the accounts you just mentioned are bots.
The comment is right there.
that you have bot and fake account trolls commenting on your site.
Finding bots is another world, and I have not claimed to find one here.
How can have a “fake” account on this site? Kym doesn’t verify anyone.
My question was to YS, why are responding? Do you have a “fake” account?
You asked for an example in response to YS comment.
Keep denying you got an answer.
Those accounts are as “real” as yours.
Semantics.
They are fake in the sense that they are replying to each o ther in a false conversation between only 1 person, not many, as they try to deceive readers.
Of course, you can obfuscate the issue as much as you want, but you are directly ignoring what I answered to you about:
Trolls.
And I’ve broken some down on this website.
And I’m proud of that.
TRB- you`re the Don Quixoti of RHBB comments section.
What are those 6 other names?
Should be easy enough to list them since you guarantee they exist. Or maybe you’re just a bit paranoid.
Anyone enjoy the music of The Kinks?
https://youtu.be/KSKKvnA47aU
He uses a few different names commonly, and many different names rarely.
I can’t confidently say on which threads he uses what names to what extent.
He is also here as “Guest”, though there are many legitimate “guests” anyway.
He perhaps is using “Covid 1984” on this thread and “disinterested observer”.
I only guarantee “The Big Liebowski” is him, however.
Unbeknownst to many of you, he spent a time posting as my dead family members.
That was after he was banned under many names, even threatening me to the point I filed a police report.
“The Big Lie” is my comic book, and he often uses little sneers into my life.
Of course, I have other markers, but I will not bore you.
Maybe but they might be you too. It is a category you fill apparently with anyone who disagrees with you. As if labelling them in some way marginalized what they say.
No, I don’t apply that to everyone I disagree with and that’s absolutely obvious.
In fact, one of the earliest accusations of this behaviour was made by the banned group years ago, and accused me of also being Ullr Rover.
I’m sure Ullr remembers that
too.
Well you accused me of that and I know you were wrong. The impossibility really knowing is what keeps most people from saying that sort of thing. Not that seems to be a consideration here. Mostly the idea that no one of any sensibility would be swayed by a sycophantile conversation anyway keeps most people from letting their paranoia get out of hand.
I did not accuse you of that.
I’m assuming you’re the Guest that I’ve dubbed “eloquent Guest”.
If so, the only time I mentioned you not being real was by asking you to type a “captcha phrase”.
If you didn’t find that funny, I understand.
You and I have had plenty of disagreements without me accusing you of anything. Ullr also.
And 2 hours before you made the insinuation that I apply the label to all I disagree with, I defended “lone ranger” as a 1 name user.
And I’ve not agreed with LR once.
There are no covid19 experts. We are all learning as we go on this one. It’s why it was deemed a novel coronavirus.
There, by far, are many, many people who know a lot more about it than you.
You, for sure, are not an expert.
However some went to school and beyond working in the field of virology, disease, medicine, etc.
And all those folks are learning as they go as well.
If an alien life, be it simple or complex, landed on earth who are the “experts”. None. Certainly there are people better trained to study and produce information but that does make them an expert. This virus has defied modelling by the “experts” from the beginning.
For instance the Imperial College London model on Sweden:
[Quote]
“Our model predicts that, using median infection-fatality-rate estimates, at least 96,000 deaths would occur by 1 July,” the authors wrote.
Today, many Swedes walk around in public without a mask, travel across regions, and partake in normal life. Despite a high initial surge of mortality, annual excess deaths are on par with yearly trends for the country. The country has seen almost 90,000 fewer deaths than the widely shared preprint predicted.
https://www.contagionlive.com/news/sweden-response-lockdown-tcell-immunity
Yeah, and they follow their social distancing measures enacted by their Government because they don’t believe a bunch of bullshit that they read on Dinesh D’idiot.
Their Government acted quick, and the people acted with their Government.
Here in America, hermitted white men have turned common sense into Conspiracy orgies.
Dinesh who?
Got any references to back your assertions or are you just blowing smoke, as usual?
https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-uscellular-us-revc&source=android-browser&q=dinesh+dsouza
The fucking moron who thinks NAZIs were socialists.
You’ve linked to him a few times.
I blow smoke when I smoke weed.
You, for sure, are also not an expert.
No, but I know that experts exist in various fields, and I don’t turn to aliens landing to escape the hole I dug.
It’s called an analogy.
a·nal·o·gy
/əˈnaləjē/
noun
a comparison between two things, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification.
Every Administration for the last 20 years, besides Trumps, has been dealing with and preparing for more new pandemics.
Because they exist.
How do aliens become an analogy for you?
Don’t be intentionally obtuse.
You’ve earned it.
What!? No love for our Reptilian overlords?
Good lord. Do you really think that a lawyer is never (or even rarek) going to be greedy and dishonest to your disadvantage? Or a doctor is never going to misdiagnosis? Or that 90% of scientists can share an inaccuracy? (Never heard of spontaneous generation or Freudian Oedipus Complex or even the scientific resistance to H Pylori stomach ulcer treatment?)
Scientists are just as human as anyone else with accompanying vanity, delusion, bigotry, fraud, rationalisation and just plan error. And once that is filtered through a reporter’s “vanity, delusion, bigotry, fraud, rationalisation and just plan error”,the chances as high that you had better have enough skepticism to question whether what you are told is good for you.
Guest, Good Lord, if 90% of the attorneys I consult insist that I’m not going to win a law suit…you better believe I’ll play the odds and decide not to sue. (Not that I ever have planned to sue but bear with the analogy.) I would consider it “vanity, delusion, bigotry, fraud, rationalisation and just plan error” to insist I knew better than the vast majority of people who have studied a situation for years.
Well, the con artist relies on one being born every minute. However it has always been a puzzle too that a person who is a self identified “Progressive” can constantly find fault with government as it always is yet simultaneously believe that government will be answer if the right laws are passed. A different mindset for sure.
Personally I do not believe that difficult is the same as impossible so if a dozen lawyers told me that a law suit can’t be won on something I thought right, I would take it as a warning of the difficulty rather than impossibilty. There are almost always a lawyer (ie experts) arguing both sides and being right is not a matter of chance after all. While some people are frustrated by complexity into surrendering to experts, nothing humanly constructed is impossible for another human to demystify if the motivation is great enough.
Well, my motivation is pretty great to not be responsible for someone else dying and to keep the economy rolling as much as possible at the same time. So “surrendering” as you put it to experts seems like where the smart person would place their bets.
You keep coming up with universal statements that I think you would not apply to a slightly different situation. Such as the BLM protests in the time of pandemic. I almost hear *If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.* Maybe Swine`s right- it’s brainwashing.
I’m definitely not following what you are saying so it is possible that the heat has melted my brains.
I’ve had attorneys agree that I was correct in a case but decline to take the case because THEY wouldn’t make enough money from it.
Meaning they ( the experts ) care about THEIR best interest which is money.
Yet somehow Bill Gates and Fauci would never put their financials ahead of your well being? Because they are experts?
We learned during Watergate to follow the money !
Yet your comfortable with all Bill talks supporting eugenics.
Does it bother you that so many women have problems with conception these days?
I recall the days when the Dems were quite suspicious of the UN, NIH, CDC, WHO, Davos, etc.
Now it’s yes sir, anything you say sir!
What happened to you?
Dr. Ennis started that for every positive case there is probably 10 more that go unreported. So if Humboldt has 3100 cases and 20 hospitalized, how do you class that as a pandemic. 4 deaths out of 3100 people, is that worse than H1N1? We here in Humboldt are neck and neck with the swine flu. Since we didn’t mask up and shut down millions suffered. That is an atrocity.
I know that Humboldt is the center of the world but it isn’t the world. It is possible to be in the midst of a pandemic and yet have many pockets of the world with little or even no COVID fatalities.
This is one time when that good ol saying “Think globally, Act locally” really applies.
Or it ripped thru Humboldt in Jan and Feb. That’s where my money is, time will tell. How many elderly people in Humboldt died last winter?
Sorry Inspector Clouseau ,I only have one screen name . Sounds like I hit a nerve Willie,and you couldn’t come up with a reply as usual. It’s ok ,have a good weekend.
It’s my opinion Lone Ranger uses 1 name.
But I always like your commenting Willie.
Are you sure the vast majority of humans believe the way you do?
Surveys show over 80% of folks wear masks. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/07/17/upshot/coronavirus-face-mask-map.html or https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/poll-mask-wearing-divisions-remain-even-coronavirus-cases-spike-n1235028 or https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/07/06/poll-finds-record-number-of-americans-are-wearing-masks/#66bfb37c3448
So yes, I’m pretty sure.
Not everyone, everywhere
“In some cases, like that of Italy and Spain, the number of people who said they were wearing the face coverings in public rose to over 80% last week, contrary to the Nordic countries where the latest survey responses show rates at below 10%.”
https://www.euronews.com/2020/07/14/coronavirus-how-the-wearing-of-face-masks-has-exposed-a-divided-europe
Those are US surveys But if you want to add in Nordic countries, don’t you think we should also add in Asian countries. I think if we look at the world as a whole, we’re still probably looking at a majority but certainly in the US there is a majority.
But it shouldn’t bother anti maskers that they are in the minority. Pshaw on democracy. Pshaw on experts. Only anti-maskers really understand that wearing a mask is a way of herding the masses into eventual muzzles and slavery.
The question from 1911 not nationality specific, but your answer was. I only offered a different perspective.
Your passive-aggressive reply is not usual for you. I’m not “anti-mask”. I’m anti authoritarian controls on free people. If you feel safer wearing a mask you have the freedom to do so. Not every health official everywhere believes that they are helpful for various reasons that deserves consideration. Take it or leave it.
You are absolutely anti mask.
I doubt anyone here thinks of your comments otherwise.
If you equate masks during a pandemic to authoritarianism, and your a self admitted anti-authoritarian, how do you think your comments regarding masks comes of as?
Who do you think you’re fooling?
Don’t believe everything you think. Pointing out incompetent conclusions is not the same as believing the opposite conslusion.
Only anti-maskers really understand that wearing a mask is a way of herding the masses into eventual muzzles and slavery.
And the Dutch and Swedes would think that that type of thinking is psychosis, nothing more.
I agree.
Be ause they have been threatened and cant get essential services if they dont. Doesnt mean they believe what you do. I wear a mask because sometimes i want to grocery shop or go into the hardware store but i think youre brainwashed and this is all overblown b.s.
That is the perfect compromise. So far any way there is no official thought police in the US.
Swine, Here’s what continues to brainwash me into wearing a mask: Studies like this: https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818?utm_medium=email&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_campaign=MEDIA+ADVISORY%3A+Wehby+FT+AOP+6-11-20&utm_content=From+Health+Affairs%3A++Mask+Use+Could+Prevent+200%2C000%2B+US+COVID-19+Cases&stream=top&
“Mandating face mask use in public is associated with a decline in the daily COVID-19 growth rate by 0.9, 1.1, 1.4, 1.7, and 2.0 percentage points in 1–5, 6–10, 11–15, 16–20, and 21 or more days after state face mask orders were signed, respectively. Estimates suggest that as a result of the implementation of these mandates, more than 200,000 COVID-19 cases were averted by May 22, 2020. The findings suggest that requiring face mask use in public could help in mitigating the spread of COVID-19.”
heres some balance for your brain washing. if none of us are “experts” and there’s studies that show both why have dogma about it. i wear a mask, cuz you know i like to eat still and they keep that at the stores even though i do grow some veggies. they werent even mandating masks for months into this thing so i guess they were all wrong until now despite the millions spent on “experts” like fauci who have flip flopped on masks and now advocate for goggles. are you wearing goggles or do you not care about health?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31159777/
Respiratory pathogens on the outer surface of the used medical masks may result in self-contamination. The risk is higher with longer duration of mask use (> 6 h) and with higher rates of clinical contact. Protocols on duration of mask use should specify a maximum time of continuous use, and should consider guidance in high contact settings. Viruses were isolated from the upper sections of around 10% samples, but other sections of masks may also be contaminated.
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-1342
In conclusion, both surgical and cotton masks seem to be ineffective in preventing the dissemination of SARS–CoV-2 from the coughs of patients with COVID-19 to the environment and external mask surface.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6599448/
The findings of this study suggest that CM (cloth masks) are not effective, and that effectiveness deteriorates if used after washing and drying cycles and if used under stretched condition
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26579222/
Breathing through N95 mask materials have been shown to impede gaseous exchange and impose an additional workload on the metabolic system of pregnant healthcare workers, and this needs to be taken into consideration in guidelines for respirator use.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15340662/
Wearing an N95 mask for 4 hours during HD significantly reduced PaO2 and increased respiratory adverse effects in ESRD patients.
https://academic.oup.com/annweh/article/54/7/789/202744
The penetration values obtained for common fabric materials indicate that only marginal respiratory protection can be expected for submicron particles taking into consideration face seal leakage.
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article
In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2493952/pdf/annrcse01509-0009.pdf
The effectiveness of a mask in reducing contamination varies with the mask’s shape, the materials of which it is made, and the way it is worn. While it has been shown that facial movements behind a mask can increase wound contamination, it has not been shown that wearing a mask makes very much difference to the contamination of the theatre environment
so clearly the science is not “settled” hence the strong skepticism by many.
The interesting part of this pandemic is we are seeing the scientific process play out under our nose. But I would say if you are looking at a 1981 study that says, “it has not been shown that wearing a mask makes very much difference to the contamination of the [surical] theatre environment” to bolster your argument and it has long been settled that wearing a mask in surgery is the better practice, you might want to consider that science has evolved in 40 years.
But “long ago” was 4 months ago. I don’t understand the conspiracy nature of anti maskers. But I do believe that the adamantly pro maskers are waging a war that is of minimal importance out of sheer panic over inability to control of things in general.
The people who are so angry at conspiracy aficionados are pretty oblivious to the fact that it is not this minority who has created the disunity that made realistic action to control a pandemic imoossible but it’s themselves . You can’t have “revolution of society” and simultaneously expect they will all follow you who can’t stop hating them.
Well yes thats an old study but there are many more included here and that was just to show that theres been some level of consistency in the decades leading up to now. the point is why pretend like theres is not legitimate science that says otherwise than what we are being told is unanimous. Yes science changes, thats why i ask if all who are truly concerned are wearing goggles or are things only right when mandated by force?
https://www.ourquadcities.com/news/national-news/fauci-birx-recommend-wearing-goggles-face-shields-in-addition-to-masks/
I wear glasses. Goggles are better. And I will probably move up to them once I read up on the situation and figure out the best version. I wore a mask before it was mandated. How about you?
Well i wear glasses as well. Like i said before, i wear the mask because i still need to eat and i also keep my distance from strangers more than usual because i do not wish to make anyone fearful or anxious.
I will also say that its pretty clear to me there is a level of fatigue concerning these issues that i think many of us are going through. I want to be very clear in stating that ms/mrs (not sure) kym kemp you are an amazing resource for local news and for what its worth, i think you do a great job at remaining apolitical in the way you run the news here. You are and have been one of the best resources for information regarding humboldt happenings and for that i thank you sincerely. Maybe if we could all just meet in person we would see that we actually have more in common in the things we value than is appearent from these comment sections. The fact that you protect free speech you dont agree with really says a lot about your strong ethics/beliefs you stand by despite the obvious frustration with many of us. Despite all that i assure you, i am not crazy, although i do sometimes feel like i am i always think back to this quote
“It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” Please dont take this to mean i feel superior. Its simply to express those feelings i think we all get.
Kym is my preferred title. Ms Kemp works.
I am tired and cranky. Partly personal, partly heat, partly the lack of willingness on other people’s parts to say something roughly equivalent to “Hey, many folks who study their whole lives on public health have come to the conclusion that wearing a mask might save lives and allow the economy to move better, so, they might be wrong but it is such a little thing to do, that what the heck, I’ll try it.”
Salvador Dali, 1935:
“Surrealism in its first period offered specific methods for approaching the images of concrete irrationality. These methods, based on the exclusively passive and receptive role of the surrealist subject, are now in liquidation and giving place to new surrealist methods of systematic exploration of the irrational.”
For example, a worldwide pandemic based on a virus no one discovered.
“You know that something’s happening, but you don’t know what it is – do you, Mr Jones?”
— Bob Dylan
New Zealand just had a outbreak. You know that island in the middle of the ocean that locked down.
30 cases in not unfixable but it does show that once you have locked down, opening even a little restarts the spiral.
They also had 100 days of no cases, no masks, and and no closures because of fairly draconian early steps they took. So I’m not exactly sure what your point is.
🕯🌳No matter how much you lock down there’s always someone out there that willing to break the rules.Travel ,travel, travel.
Yes. And to keep people from travelling takes a very, very authoritarian and Paramus government. Welcome to the reality that you can’t have your cake and eat it too.
His point is that those 100 days of no cases, masks, anything were for nothing. Thats the dirty little secret about lockdowns. You see, every country got an invitation to the Covid party, some are just a little later showing up than others. The lockdown solves absolutely nothing, it just postpones the inevitable.
The New Zealand cases are “interesting”. From one family, many of whom worked for Americold, a US based company in New Zealand. Take from that what you will.
It is a new strain, btw, not the one that New Zealand originally closed down for.
And, despite the desire as always to blame America, that is the point. Whether the threat is from the US or Europe or South America or Mexico or China, once a country has undertaken to control a natural phenomenon, it is always there waiting for control to slip even a bit. More succinctly Mother Nature always bats last. Even if it offends control freaks.
I was just stating actual facts. Like I said, take from that what you will.
This outbreak came from one family. And is a strain that is different than the original one that reached New Zealand.
The NZ government says they don’t know how it got there yet. But the things I mentioned are true.
It would be great if they can track this new strain to it’s origins.
Most recent story. “Several of those infected work at an Americold food storage facility in the Auckland suburb of Mt. Wellington. Officials are looking at the possibility that workers on a freight ship or at the port may have spread the infections, despite physical distancing requirements at those sites and orders preventing ship workers coming ashore…
Officials are also investigating the possibility the virus could have survived from abroad on chilled or frozen food boxes and then infected workers in New Zealand, a scenario they consider unlikely.” https://www.local10.com/news/world/2020/08/14/new-zealands-virus-outbreak-grows-by-13-cases-to-30/
Just stating facts, not innuendo. Take it for what it’s worth.
Yes? And? How does that alter anything I said?
I just presented the facts. Make of it as you will. God, it’s like shooting fish in a barrel.
1918 flu killed 675,000 Americans, 3-5% worldwide which would be 10-15 million Americans today. Covid isn’t anything like the Spanish Flu.
I guess we will ignore the changes in medical science, applications and technology.
Along with ignoring the likely undercounting of Covid deaths.
And ignore that Covid still gave America is second deadliest month by one cause behind the 1918 bug…..
And you really make a big point.
The biggest progress in medical science has been antibiotics… the rest is fringe technology. It has its place but is statistically insignificant.
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/25/1/18-1184_article
Lunatic fringe
Is an understatement
https://youtu.be/q61TMu1gqY4
Improve your life.
Join ISIS.
Incredible that people who resist the push of incremental attack on our civil liberties are seen as…
Well,…
There are those who look for guidance from others, and there are those who understand the inherent freedom of the individual against the brainwashed mob.
Good on ya.
3 days ago you were linking to an article about T Cells and Covid.
T Cells were discovered in 1961, lol… funny guy.
Those pesky engineers and their “fringe technology”…
Who needs electricity?
In 1918, far fewer than half the homes in the US were able to use it.
The 1928 invention of ventilators was fringe, and heretical too perhaps, huh?
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01019-y
Xrays. Genetic sequencing.
Pesky advancements.
The 20th century produced such a plethora of discoveries and advances that in some ways the face of medicine changed out of all recognition. In 1901 in the United Kingdom, for instance, the life expectancy at birth, a primary indicator of the effect of health care on mortality (but also reflecting the state of health education, housing, and nutrition), was 48 years for males and 51.6 years for females. After steady increases, by the 1980s the life expectancyhad reached 71.4 years for males and 77.2 years for females. Other industrialized countries showed similar dramatic increases. By the 21st century the outlook had been so altered that, with the exception of oft-fatal diseases such as certain types of cancer, attention was focused on morbidity rather than mortality, and the emphasis changed from keeping people alive to keeping them fit.
The rapid progress of medicine in this era was reinforced by enormous improvements in communication between scientists throughout the world. Through publications, conferences, and—later—computers and electronic media, they freely exchanged ideas and reported on their endeavours. No longer was it common for an individual to work in isolation. Although specialization increased, teamwork became the norm. It consequently has become more difficult to ascribe medical accomplishments to particular individuals.
In the first half of the 20th century, emphasis continued to be placed on combating infection, and notable landmarks were also attained in endocrinology, nutrition, and other areas. In the years following World War II, insights derived from cell biologyaltered basic concepts of the disease process. New discoveries in biochemistry and physiology opened the way for more precise diagnostic tests and more effective therapies, and spectacular advances in biomedical engineering enabled the physician and surgeon to probe into the structures and functions of the body by noninvasive imaging techniques such as ultrasound (sonar), computerized axial tomography(CAT), and nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR). With each new scientific development, medical practices of just a few years earlier became obsolete.
https://www.britannica.com/science/history-of-medicine/Medicine-in-the-20th-century
“Fringe technology”?
I’m sorry you weren’t born in 1800, where you would be dead at 35ish, normally, because pre-fringe technology life was pure and beautiful.
You do know that T cells weren’t invented, right?
The discovery of antibiotics has saved 100’s of millions of lives. Without antibiotics most invasive medical procedures would fail because of infection. When I say other medical advancements were “fringe” it is not because they have no significance, it is because the statistical importance on saving lives versus antibiotics hardly registers.
Sometimes, it seems, you want to create an argument but you don’t know what you are arguing about.
Wait, you read that comment and you think I think t Cells were invented, not “discovered” as I made clear?
Holy shit, what’s wrong with you?
We live 40 years longer than 100 years ago. Because of medical advancements
You call that “insignificant” and “fringe”.
Reread the Britannica excerpt, it shoots your concept dead.
You still have nothing. I have no idea why you brought up T cells with regards to this topic.
From my link:
“Miracle Cure: The Creation of Antibiotics and the Birth of Modern Medicine (Figure) engagingly describes what is arguably the most significant development in the history of medicine: antibiotics. ”
From your excerpt:
“In the first half of the 20th century, emphasis continued to be placed on combating infection…”
What, exactly, are you trying to argue? That there have been advancements in medical science and technology? Well, duh.
Are you kidding, that’s exactly what I said!
I guess we will ignore the changes in medical science, applications and technology.
Now you say “duh”.
But you replied with “fringe” “insignificance”.
Besides Sid, anyone reading this can clearly see you are being childly foolish, to be kind.
“It has its place but is statistically insignificant.”
What the fuck are you talking about? What is your point?
“The biggest progress in medical science has been antibiotics.” That is a very clear statement. What is your counterpoint? That there have been other developments? Well, duh, but none of those developments have had the impacts of antibiotics… not even close… making them “statistically insignificant.”
I hope “anyone” can chime in and tell me how and why I’m “childly foolosh” because you clearly can’t.
What is invredibly obvious to any fair reader, is you will never admit your wrongs.
So if 15 people chimed in, you wouldn’t give a fuck or learn anything anyways.
Wrong about what? Please elucidate… maybe start with defining “invredibly”.
I’m wrong and ignorant about many things. Here’s a chance to enlighten me and others.
I guess you never see the side effects on all the FDA approved drugs or the lawsuits against them…and then the FDA just says, Oh A NEW study says this will give you 10 kinds of cancer!!
FDA Requests Removal of All Ranitidine Products (Zantac) from the Market
FDA Advises Consumers, Patients and Health Care Professionals After New FDA Studies Show Risk to Public Health
An antacid for God’s sake. Yep just believe the EXPERTS my butt!
One of a million examples.
Hey Real Brian. Are you capable of having a debate or discussion without being insulting?
I can see you are severely offended by opinions contrary to your own. Since this is all boiling down to an experts vs the experts for some; and common sense vs fear for others, can you just back off a bit and be civil. Ullr Rover and others have done so.
Meanwhile, I suspect that 250,000 unmasked bikers at Sturgis will be a large enough test group to prove there is some wonkiness in the narrative worldwide. Meanwhole I bet your msm feed has not told you of the massive protests worlwide against the CV19 narrative and subsequent opportunistic restrictions placed on human lives.
I’ll keep my snark to myself although it is sooo fun.