Public Health Supervisor Explains How COVID Contact Tracing Identifies Cases, Talks Local Testing, and More

Here are some of the main points covered in the August 13th Media Availability session with a summary of answers from Hava Phillips, Public Health Clinic and Communicable Disease Program Supervisor.

EOC:  Would you like to start by sharing any issues of interest with the community?

Hava Phillips:

I’d love to be able to just say thank you to everybody who has you know participated in making contact tracing work in Humboldt county and that definitely includes my team and a number of teams here at Public Health – our contact tracers, our investigators, our interpreters, including the ones who are just now coming on – all of our staff here at Public Health. And also really includes our community people who have you know chosen to give up activities that are really important to them in order to protect their friends and their family and the communities around them. People who’ve spent hours and hours on the phone with us helping us figure out who we need to be contacting to let them know they’ve been exposed. I just…there’s been just a huge amount of work on this from a whole lot of different angles, and it’s meant a lot, and I really appreciate it. 

1 mins 15 sec in:   

Question by The Times-Standard:  How long does it take to train contact tracers and what does that training look like? 

Answer by Phillips:

One kind of important thing to think about when you’re looking at contact tracing is that it really is a team effort.  We have contact tracers who are the people who are reaching out making phone calls collecting information and bringing it back to the team, and we have our data management crew who is responsible for taking all of that information and making sure that it gets recorded where our team can use it to investigate, where locally we can use it to get data out to the community and where at a state level we can get that information reported to the state for them to use in their statistics. And then another part of that group is the investigator who oversees the entire overarching investigation and makes decisions about isolation and quarantine, and decisions about whether or not an exposure is significant and requires investigation of facilities. A lot of different decision making processes go into that and so for the contact tracers specifically that training includes about 20 hours of online training that the State of California has put together for that purpose. 

And following that folks come in and they observe our experienced contact tracers on calls for a while, and then that kind of switches and the experienced contact tracers will observe them on calls for a while, and then once they’re able to make those calls on themselves by themselves they go onto an experienced team to make sure that they have the support that they need.

And then at that point they’re ready to go on their own. And the amount of time that that takes really depends on how many hours the contact tracer has available per week, because a lot of our contact tracers are people who have other jobs that they’re doing in addition to this or who have you know volunteered their time with the County, and so it’s not necessarily the case that everyone’s got 40 hours a week to put into this.  So the time it takes can be variable, but it’s typically around two or three weeks.

3 mins 25 sec in:  

Question by The Times-Standard: Have some people chosen not to work with contact tracers after testing positive or being exposed to a confirmed case?

Answer by Phillips: 

You know, most people are really conscientious.  Most people in this community really genuinely just want to be able to protect their friends and their family and their community and will go to pretty incredible lengths to make sure that we have the information that we need to be able to contact all of those people.  There are occasionally folks who are, you know, afraid to share information with us for a variety of reasons, or have some concerns about working with Public Health for whatever reason. It is typically the case that even the people who are very reluctant in the beginning when it comes down to it, will make sure that we get the information that we needed, to be able to reach out to the people who need to know that they were exposed.

4 mins 20 sec in:   

Question by The Times-Standard:  What is the process for determining if a case was community transmission? (i.e. x number of contacts were contacted and didn’t have it)

Answer by Phillips:

We categorize them as either travel acquired, or community transmission, or contacts to a  known case, or under investigation, and so essentially community transmission is when we have fully investigated the case we have all the answers that we’re going to get and there is no evidence that this person traveled during their exposure period and also no evidence that they were a contact to one of the cases that we already know about.  In that situation then they are considered community transmission, essentially just meaning that they picked it up somewhere in Humboldt County and we’re not completely sure where.

5 mins 15 sec in:  

Question by Lost Coast Outpost:  What determines whether a person has had close contact with someone who has been infected?  Under what circumstances is that ‘close contact’ asked to quarantine?

Answer by Phillips:

So there is a technical definition for close contact, and there is also a degree of clinical skill and critical thinking that goes into that decision. So, nationally and at the state level, the definition of a close contact is someone who has been within 15 feet – I’m sorry – I’m gonna back that up…  I get these numbers reversed all the time – somebody who has been within six feet of an infectious individual for 15 minutes or longer, but of course there are exceptions to that.  If the person has only been within six feet for two minutes but the person who was infectious was coughing the entire time, and nobody was wearing a mask, we would make an exception and we would say you’re a close contact.  So, we look at every single situation on a case-by-case basis but in general a person is quarantined if they are within six feet for 15 minutes or longer.

6 mins 25 sec in:  

Question by Lost Coast Outpost: What is the thing — or lack of a thing — that most hampers contact tracing in Humboldt County?

Answer by Phillips:

It’s a harder question, and I’m going to say- I’m going to say, testing in Humboldt County…  We’re tremendously lucky because our local lab here at Public Health is a really, really high quality lab, and able to run a lot more tests rapidly for us as part of contact tracing than a lot of counties even larger counties have access to. And so that has made us able to test everybody that we needed to test for a contact investigation even when testing was pretty tight.  But at the same time in order to to investigate a case you have to know that it exists, and so having really well-supported testing in the community at large where everybody who wants to get tested, can be tested, and can get those results back in a short enough time period that we can notify their contacts while it still makes a difference – having that available is critical to being able to do 24/7 really good contact tracing.  And so as I’m sure everybody has noticed there are times when you know no matter how hard everybody is working there just aren’t enough materials to do that kind of testing and so when that happens, it makes more – it’s a lot more challenging to get our contact tracing done when the lab testing is not able to keep up.

8 mins in:  

Question by KMUD News:  Three cases determined to be infections via community transmission also correlated to any other factors (such as indoor or outdoor location, physical proximity to known case, type of face covering used, or frequency of hand washing)?

Answer by Phillips:

Yeah, it’s you know with, over somewhere in the neighborhood of 300 cases at this point.  There have certainly been a couple that have been genuinely perplexing to us in terms of where they got it from, but in almost every situation you can go back and find that point where exposure is likely a situation where you know people were in a car together, or you know, in close quarters without their masks on. or at a group gathering, and so there is absolutely a correlation between positive cases and the, you know, prevention measures that we’re all trying to have in place. 

9 mins 5 sec in:  

Question by KMUD News:  Thank you for the Dashboard of information. For our listeners who do not have access to that website, could you please describe the trends and demographics of COVID cases in Humboldt thus far?

Answer by Phillips:

We’re definitely seeing an increase in cases in Humboldt County. It’s a strong upward trend and I don’t think that we expect to see that change in the near future. We’re seeing cases in individuals across age groups and across races and ethnicities, but currently are the majority of our cases are in young adults – young to middle aged adults – and our cases are I think the most cases are people who identify as white in Humboldt County and then as a subset secondarily people who identify as Latino.

10 mins 10 sec in:   

Question by Redheaded Blackbelt:  We understand that something like 5% of state workers from other agencies have been assigned to be trained as contract tracers. How is the integration of teams working? Could you describe how the work flow happens? 

Answer by Phillips: 

The integration of teams has been amazing.  We do in fact have contact tracers from a wide variety of backgrounds at this point from different county programs as well as our volunteers, and we have found that having that huge variety of different experiences has been really valuable to our team in general and to our ability to reach out to different communities.

So I would say that the integration has gone very well, and we’ve had a lot of people who are just genuinely dedicated and willing to put in a lot of time and effort to make sure that we get the work done that we need to. In terms of what that integration looks like, the team setting that I described earlier is a pretty good visual.  We typically have an investigator, a couple of contact tracers and somebody who does data management participating in any given investigation and people will put in you know their time and their expertise wherever that is so folks who have more experience with interviewing are more likely to be doing contact tracing and it’s been a pretty good system thus far.

11 mins 40 sec in:

Question by The North Coast Journal:  What are the biggest challenges to conducting effective contact investigations locally and how have those changed through the duration of the pandemic?

Answer by Phillips:

Well, I mentioned earlier that the lab testing has been a challenge through the duration of the pandemic.  In the very beginning, any sample had to be sent out to the CDC, and following that there was a time when we weren’t able to get all the supplies that we needed. There have been times when we had absolutely everything we needed and we were able to push a huge number of tests through a local lab very quickly, and there have been just peaks and valleys in there and that that definitely is one challenge that impacts investigations.  And then you know from a different angle investigations are a huge challenge to the community. People are being asked to make sacrifices that are not insignificant – to stay away from funerals, to avoid being close to family who are vulnerable, to you know maybe not be in school full-time.  There’s a lot that’s challenging about preventing the spread of disease that is challenging to the community that it impacts and so I would say that that’s absolutely one of the primary challenges.

12 mins 55 sec in:  

Question by The North Coast Journal:  What is the average number of contacts found per new COVID-19 case, and what is the highest number of contacts from a single case found to date?

Answer by Phillips:

The average number for locally anyways it really depends a lot on the individual and what their activities were. And I should throw out there, that just because an individual had high risk activities that some people don’t have a choice.  There are some people whose jobs are in public service and positions that kind of put them in harm’s way, and so it’s not a judgment – they’re just people who are naturally higher risk than others, and so in terms of the number of contacts it really depends on what their activity was.

If we have individuals who are able to stay home, work from home um you know essentially their only activity is grocery shopping and the only people they’ve seen in the last two weeks are the people they live with the number of contacts there is very very limited.  Sometimes it’s only one person and the community exposure is essentially  non-existent a lot of times, and in other cases where we have people who have you know either have been or have had to be out in the community in more public settings we can see a double digit number of contacts per person, and I think an important thing to keep in mind is that we’re not just looking at a single case and the contacts of that case. We then have to look at the contacts of those contacts as those people come back positive. And so you can start with a single person who has you know 15-20 contacts. If five of those people come back positive and each of them has ten contacts of their own and two of each of those comes back positive you can end up with hundreds and hundreds of cases that you’re monitoring related to a single positive result.

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Socialist Puppets
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Socialist Puppets
3 years ago

OPHahaha, forget that shit. If I had covid I would never ever go to a doctors office to be contact traced by these socialist puppets.

max
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max
3 years ago

please define “socialism” for the class.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
3 years ago
Reply to  max

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
•a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

•(in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.

stuber
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stuber
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Communist China is responsible for this horrid crap. Socialism is just as complicit, both want to rule us. The Chi Coms spread this crap to weaken our society, so they could try to take us over. We have guns, good luck with that Xi, you dog pig. And no, your puppets Kamala and Biden won’t do it, they will never be in office. They are evil.

Not Convinced
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Not Convinced
3 years ago
Reply to  stuber

Evil? As compared to a guy who lies, cheats, steals, sexually assaults women, defrauds investors and the taxpayers? Please elaborate on what Ms. Harris and Mr. Biden have done that rises to compare with the epic fuckery most foul that is our “dear leader’s” documented history.

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3 years ago
Reply to  Not Convinced

““If a man is alive, if he’s tapping the reservoirs, he is sure to meet defeat. He’ll be knocked, he’ll be misunderstood, laughed at and perhaps called a foe to society.

“For the man who doesn’t want to be knocked and laughed at I give this recipe: Do nothing, say nothing, be nothing. Go in your hole and pull your hole after you and put up a sign ‘not at home.’ If any man follows this recipe, I assure you, he will never get turned down.” Elbert Hubbard, 1909

Which describes Biden when compared to Trump- he has done nothing,athough that hasn’t saved him from criticism . He has on occasion said something that gains attention for it’s ineptitude. If he actually pulls off getting elected, his sole claim to fame will be that he dragged Harris into the White House against the will of his own party. Such is the superiority of Biden. He will hide in his hole until after the election. Which, considering who he is, is probably the best chance.

Pharmstheproblem
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Pharmstheproblem
3 years ago

And what does any of this mean? Duh ! I want to know how many have had the virus if not positive for virus. Why don’t they do that? Why not figure out how many have had it already wouldn’t that important info also? Don’t just test for active virus complete the testing so we know if we have had it already too.

Willie Bray
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3 years ago

🕯🌳You people need to go find someone with it and stand in line and get it over with and then come back and tell everyone how it felt. Not a one of you has that story. But your all willing to complain about it like little bitches.

Eric Eridani
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Eric Eridani
3 years ago

I read lips and wish these Humboldt County pezzanovante would take their masks off for the camera! The newscasters and weather forecasters don’t speak through masks. And the local TV closed captioning is so bad that it is unintelligible! So much for the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Eridani

We write out the transcript for you here. Doesn’t that work?

Eric Eridani
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Eric Eridani
3 years ago

Sure, it works and is helpful. But why should such a simple thing (and it’s their responsibility to serve ALL of the public) require my double time and effort to accomplish…for no apparent good reason? Is it about virtue signaling or setting an example? I just need the information, please, with no BS.

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3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Eridani

What do you mean by “doubling your effort?” And what do you see as “virus signalling?” I thought it was pretty straight forward.

Eric Eridani
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Eric Eridani
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Because of the mask I can’t read her lips and the closed captions are so bad (unintelligible!) that I have to make a second effort to find her speech transcript online so I can see what she said! “Virtue Signaling” is her wearing the mask, unnecessarily, to demonstrate what a fine person she is.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Eridani

If the person filming her is less than 6 feet away, wouldn’t Dr. Frankovich need to be masked? Also, what about her setting an example? Is that the same as virtue signalling only with a negative spin?

Eric Eridani
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Eric Eridani
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

The point of public information is clarity. So, back up the camera, take off the mask and make a breif, clear statement that maximizes clarity to viewers.

Guest
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3 years ago

This was unusually interesting in giving concrete information about what these people are and what they do. Espcially the definition of “close contact” that was asked by the LCO. 15 minutes within 6 feet. Maybe that’s a good standard for keeping social distancing. Anyway I would appreciate being made aware if I had be so exposed as it would give me some warning to take symptoms more seriously at an earlier stage. So thank you both for the inquiries and responses.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
3 years ago

“…somebody who has been within six feet of an infectious individual for 15 minutes or longer, but of course there are exceptions to that. If the person has only been within six feet for two minutes but the person who was infectious was coughing the entire time, and nobody was wearing a mask, we would make an exception and we would say you’re a close contact. So, we look at every single situation on a case-by-case basis but in general a person is quarantined if they are within six feet for 15 minutes or longer.”

So, if I’m within 6 feet of someone who’s hacking their brains out for more than 2 minutes we should both be wearing masks. Otherwise 15 minutes is the standard. I’m not going to hang out with sick people or people I don’t know and just avoid the whole mask thing altogether.

P*** W***lies
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P*** W***lies
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Can you feel the oxygen being sucked out of the room.

This Covid Cancel Culture has reinforced the absolute worst in our critical thinking abilities.

You can’t live in peace with fight or flight being pushed on the peaceful majority.

How is it possible for something so manipulated to leave nothing but pain and suffering for EVERYONE INVOLVED.

https://youtu.be/q61TMu1gqY4

That’s why you should recognize the genius of this shituation.

How else can a flu virus completely turn upside down the lives , both sick and healthy.

If you aren’t lucky enough to catch Covid, you will be forced to modify all your plans for the IDEA that the overreaction to this is going to ruin so many more lives than the few people, respectively, who succumbed to the disease.

And Kym, you believe that you are doing the county a service by letting this marginalize almost everything else that matters to your friends , family and neighbors.

Get busy living,

Get busy dying.

#CANCELCOVIDCULTURE

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  P*** W***lies

Don’t comment on it if it doesn’t matter.

P*** W***lies
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P*** W***lies
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I was simply trying to explain how much time and effort goes into “believing the hype”

I hope you are taking time out for yourself…its been nice to step away from the padded room for a while.

Deep breaths.

Drink your lemon watee

Take your multiple vitamins.

Apple cider vinegar too!