[UPDATE 9:46 p.m.] Protesters and Police: Saturday Evening in Eureka
This evening, protesters in Eureka are ramping up the hostilities as they gather to demand justice in the death of George Floyd. In the video above, the back window of a police car is broken out. The crowd’s mood is noticeably more hostile as a portion of those walking peacefully have left for home but a still good-sized portion of angry protesters remain on the streets as of 7 p.m.
Below Eureka Police Chief Steve Watson tries to talk down the crowd.
Near the Courthouse, law enforcement officers wearing SWAT type gear are staging. They are wearing face shields and full riot gear. They have guns meant to shoot rubber bullets and they have pepper spray, according to our reporter, Ryan Hutson who is on scene.
There are large numbers of police walking in the crowd and some areas are relatively peaceful. In other areas, such as 5th Street which is closed at O Street, tensions are ratcheting up.Here is our earlier story with video of protesters being struck by a car: Protesters Blocking Traffic in Eureka
We’ll keep updating below.
UPDATE 8:16 p.m.: “Police your own police,” protesters chanted about 7:45 p.m.
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UPDATE 8:40 p.m.: About 8:30 p.m., approximately 70 protesters marched peacefully but against traffic on 5th Street.
UPDATE 9:32 p.m.: Eureka Police Chief Steve Watson confirmed to our reporter Ryan Hutson that two officers were assaulted.
In addition, the Eureka Police Department was vandalized.Protesters are still in the streets. And there are scattered reports of vandalism and hostility. At 9:15 there was a report of one protester with a slingshot.
But the energy seems to be quieting.
UPDATE 9:46 p.m.: Another protest is scheduled for tomorrow at 3 p.m.UPDATE: The protest was moved to 6 p.m.
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Community heroes defending life and property!
What rock did all these goof ball crawl out from under fot crying out loud I got in a lot of trubal in eureka in my life and the police were all ways fair with me
Says the white person…..
Hypocritically denounced by another White person.
Cali was only state that paid for skins scalps …humboldt is been ran down all right by china white..mexi.green and black…and white men with big guns and small dicks
.fucking reaction is what your waiting for yah..setting back..well walk chest high..beef growers..chill out dont trip
Grow brains..read humboldt ca. Tribal.facts..grow tribal facts..not beef..grow smarts..spead it…and respect what you are not.do not sit in a group and at better then because you say so…what if..and why..and if so..what will you do????
I am watching..i am…the ancestors before you…i will be quite….show me you care…as i watch from the birds eyes…from your kids eyes…as you….mix into our familys…as you marry into our familys…as you rape up..kill us..but yet our kids live on…as you think we are not here….we are still here..!!!ALIVE….and real…waiting…to clean up your mess lile always…..red power
Make your self the mess 2020 we will clean you up…red power
Love protest!
Hate violence, vandalism, and looting, and yes, it certainly discredits the point of the protest. It’s shameful and a disservice to the community at large. I believe the peaceful protesters remain the majority, and should take on the responsibility of keeping the others in line. Citizen arrest if necessary, but maintain some integrity to the cause. Don’t allow such a righteous cause morph into an embarrassment.
Well said but too late, the minute we used violence, we became no better.
50 cents an acre at 100 acre plots…looking for a white deal…the wite deal right deal?
As you sleep we will watch and we will clean…you will be cleaned or get the fuck out the way…respect the movement..no meth no heroin …sell that to your white kids…..sell that meth to your white kids…sell that heroin to your white mom and your kid folk
That shit should be sold to know one if you cared for humanity.
Of all the people standing around the original incident in Minneapolis with their cell phones out recording, why did none of them feel so strongly for life to tackle the officer off of him when he went limp. But now everyone is compelled to loot or destroy everything. Makes no sense to me. I worked downtown STL during the Michael Brown aftermath. Had nothing done to me and although it shouldn’t matter, I am white and sided with the Brown family’s grief. I can’t understand everyone else’s, but I guess as long as it makes sense to them right? Karma brings everything full circle in the end…..
I think all these over privileged children that think of sutin doesn’t go there way they should revolt should be sprayed with the force of the American fire truck hose and then they will get out of the way of hard working under paid police and first responders trying to help the innocence civilians business they are looting and burning when they have no direct involvement to the officer that should be reprimanded for his actions and use of unnecessary force on that man weather his color of his skin
These people seem to be lead by a few individuals that probably are professional riot instigators. Talk about a bunch of sheep, these certainly appear to be.
John,
thanks
I think so.
I say stop selling dope
Meth
.heroin…so the community is not a shit hole
.and be happy with the odds you got
.and
Remember..this is a red country ..drugs are not in power
.red power is
Dude, have you been out to the res? seriously we have so many issues with addiction and it is sold to us by our own people.
They are called agent provocateurs, John. Very common that ‘opposition to the dominant power structure’ movements are infiltrated by outsiders (who intend to encourage violence and vandalism so people like you can argue that they are ‘criminals’) and thereby discredit it. So, the people who participate in such violence are often malleable “sheep” and are “led” by these ‘provocateurs.
The majority of the ‘protesters’ are civil (though often angry) and peaceful.
Ben Round….you need to do a community comment on KINS radio. Sounds like you have lots of interesting things to discuss. I hope to hear you soon. Well said, by the way.
Thanks Shawn. I appreciate you saying that. And, It’s rather insightful of you. I am not a stranger to a microphone. 😉
I was there protesting but left crying after I tried to talk 5 or 6 protestors blocking traffic into moving back onto sidewalks when traffic had a green light. I was afraid an enraged motorist might run someone over. A few men listened, most ignored my request & a young woman got verbally abusive.
The protest had a noble cause of stopping the slow genocide we’re doing to black Americans.
But we discredit our cause if we act like the entitled …. in another city, who didn’t want to shelter in place & blocked first responders.
While I was there, EPD showed great restraint.
So the host, Humboldt Grassroots, is a self avowed anarchist group. Fine.
Why meet so late in the day … on a Sunday?
Mayhem, they want darkness
Jonny …get off your cell phone
..jonny…sheep’s post on here jonny
Jon…go back to humboldt hill and be quite ..ok..fucking red heads always want to be heard
Natives you locked up..pimped out..snitched out..fallowed around worked with turned on…people act powerful in a group..but what when in a cold dark spot..all alone…with natives around you
.what then
..humboldt..we are still here
I’m glad to see a lot of people showed up! Kinda wishing I’d remembered it was today. Oh well. Still glad to see it. Shoot (or choke) first, ask questions later, has gone on for way too long, both nationally and locally. However, I don’t get the point of the random vandalism. Hurting local business owners and people who made the mistake of parking their car in the wrong place at the wrong time, most of whom probably agree with the protesters, isn’t sending the police a message – it’s just hurting our own community. [edit]
I hope this makes a change, but I’m going to be pessimistic until I actually see it…
It is also happening tomorrow & the next day – meeting at 3pm at the courthouse
Yeah Marie ! Bring on marshal law!!!!! We want more government control! We want more government control! You know your not fighting AGAINST the government, your fighting FOR the government. They want you to protest and assault officers. Lockdown is the ultimate plan. Complete lockdown of freedoms and commerce. Go on with your protests. They are winning, not you.
Yes you are right but the young do not have experience to understand the saying “biting off their own nose to spite the face”
See my comment above about agent provocateurs.
I remember not even two weeks ago when you were very upset that people were protesting in front of the courthouse to open the economy, you said they were dumbass and we’re endangering the entire county from coronavirus. So my question is have you changed your position or are you a hypocrite?
… Because I can’t simultaneously support ending police brutality and support continuing measures to slow the spread of a deadly disease?
You were adamant that religious people were stupid and that they were endangering the whole county by protesting, the only difference here in a public health sense is that this is a far bigger danger as there are more people and less facemasks, so I repeat, have you suddenly had a revaluation as to public health and protests or do you puré and simple only pick issues based on your emotions and not facts? You see I was in support of the last protests, just like I’m in support of these protests, that’s because I really try to not be a hypocrite and only allow people to do things if their options align with mine.
Mike. These are not protests. There riots, vandalism and looting. Big difference. Angry sheep destroy the very fences that protect them and burn down there pastures ultimately letting the wolves in to finish them off. Brilliant.
Realistically, you approve of protests of roaming groups of people violating the orders that you disapproved of others protesting.
FanOfGuest
There will be more business available for local commercial and auto glass companies, window washers, and cleaning companies for a little while. That’s an economic stimulus in these times.
Doesn’t even have the video of the 2 people that got hit. Just by a passing car
Don’t stand in traffic Mr. Peaceful. That’s a horrible idea in general, what were you thinking?
They were trying to block it while others were beating on it. Pro tips: 1) If you don’t want someone to skedaddle, don’t beat on their car; 2) If someone in a car is in a situation they want to get out of, don’t jump in front of or on the car. The lesson should have been an easy one for the (lucky) knuckleheads who jumped on the hood of the car, if indeed they are capable of learning anything from their short rides.
If they really want to make a difference, vote, write your Senators, Congress men, state officials. Take part in organization that help those who are less fortunate. These so called peaceful protest that end up destroying their own community. Eureka has because such a poor example of what it used to be it is a dying community. So sad what Humboldt County has become in the last 30 years.
Good for them, mostly young people… older crowd too cowardly to do anything besides keyboard typing and criticize our civil liberties. Voting/writing letters hasn’t done sh*t, I’ve been doing that my entire life. Have you forgotten the history of how this Country was founded or its current violent behavior worldwide. [edit]
Yet there have been violent race riots since before the writing of the Constitution. Yet you seem to think that this one is different? No wonder you spent your entire life not succeeding.
People have been writing their officials about police brutality for a couple decades now and nothing changes.
Writing to the king of England wasn’t what got America’s independence.
Jonny…your no leader ..jonny
..sshhhhhhh..jonny…be quite jonny…
If some asshole comes beating on my window, with or without kids in the car, with these assholes in the way and no way out, I am in fear for my life and acting accordingly !! Better them than me. Chanting black lives matter and bring up 400 years ago this and that, give me a break you worthless pieces of shit ! Where were you 400 years ago. That’s right. Go to Minnesota and whine your shit !
Well. Gee. Where to begin. The only problem with your rant is you indicate that this is a matter that occurred 400 years ago. Your timeline is way off. And unfortunately we still live in a country where prejudice and racism still runs rampant in certain areas and within certain social elements in society. I believe in protest and voicing ones dissent and concerns. Don’t go for vandalism. But you need to step up into the real world and see what is happening. Sure, some complaints are media enhanced and somewhere in the middle is where the truth lays. But the George Floyd matter. We have actual video and sound. The cop used a restraint that is not allowed. Even when he hears the man say he can’t breath he doesn’t move his knee. This is not ok. He should have placed his knee on the mans shoulder. But the neck. Good gawd. The man was killed. It is what it is. I only hope that justice prevails. Please get a book and do some reading on the history of the United States. It will do you good.
You put that beautifully Joy Vary well said without being snide
Joy,
what does protesters beating on a car window in northern humboldt California have to do with Floyd in MN?
Candace Owens pretty much explaines the top 💯 threats against African Americans, and their vote for that matter hower that is another subject. Her list is pretty throughrow, and most people would be surprised at her list of 150. Any way, keep the peace, locals, for peace.
You think it started only 400 years ago? And only in the US which was the only country in the world that actually fought a war over ending race based slavery, a war mostly paid for with the blood of people not themselves slaves?
Facts like that makes the oh-so-woke just giggle. And the conversation can not progress as they don’t acknowledge white bloodshed.
This isn’t Minneapolis. Arcata people who go to Eureka to harass people and do vandalism in the name of protest are using another town for their toilet.
Way to go Joy! Well written!
OOHRAH & SEMPER FI. Yip I would rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6.
It’s a marine thing,
What?
If your’e the one breaking windows that comment is for you.
Who is in charge of this protest?
Is it funded by soros?
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/16/black-lives-matter-cashes-100-million-liberal-foun/
RE: pissed off marine. Go back to the Caucus Mountains or Europe.
You can go back 800 years, in the continental US, the Natives slaved each other all the time. The Crow, Blackfoot, all of them did raids on each other for slaves and territory. No whites, no blacks. The Muslims are still actively slaving people in the middle east today. There are millions of slaves in Africa, held by black people. China is a huge slave/sex slave country, owning North Koreans and others. Where is Antifa? Why aren’t they stopping the Muslims in the Middle east? Why aren’t they there? Or China? How about an anti slave protest in Tienniman Square? There aren’t any slaves in the US. Go to where the problems are, not here. And to all the little protesters who are hurting innocent people and their property, there will be consequences, cameras are being studied, license plates being read, you will be doxed. Then the phone calls to your employer telling them their business is boycotted till they are fired. Also, it is so hillarious, these little freaks standing in front of the cops yelling and cussing; the cops don’t hear you, they do not believe your spew, they consider you small and weak. We have not seen the arsenal the cops have, keep pushing, see what happens. And you Antifa, your data base is increasing, they will be taking you out soon. And private people are helping. While you clowns are hurting us, people are gathering your info, and helping the cops. Fuck Antifa, fuck anarchists. You hurt innocent people because you don’t like us being free, you want to control us, you are awful evil losers.
But, What about ?!, but What about?!
The fact that terrible things happen everywhere isn’t a reason why we should have them continue to happen here. If anything, you should see those terrible things and think how can we have a society free of such injustices? Instead, you see other country’s problems as a justification to let ours continue?! This is some of the most backward and ignorant thinking I’ve seen lately. Just…wow!
Minneapolis isn’t “here.” Also, your canned accusation of “whataboutism” doesn’t address the fact that tribal societies have been enslaving each other since time immemorial with no Europeans in sight. If that’s not relevant, then neither is the snark about European heritage that stuber was responding to. But you didn’t call that out, did you?
The caucus mountains of Europe? Is that the mountain range where people of a political faction or party gather in closed session to promote an agreed-upon candidate or cause? That’s what Merriam-Webster implies.
Bite me guest. I have earned my right to be and go as I want. You don’t like it you leave ! Better yet you leave. Don’t bring your bleeding heart boo hoo bullshit to me, you wouldn’t like the outcome. I have more knowledge of my constitution than you ever will !
The “caucus mountains?” Is that the mountain range where people of a political party or faction gather in closed session to promote an agreed-upon candidate or cause? That’s what Merriam-Webster implies.
Got your back
🤣 hey folks, I think we have a white racist family here! Wow dude. Hey, atleast you own it instead of acting all woke like some white people who consider themselves allies. For me, ill be there to bang on your window whith your family in the car, so you can shoot me! Better for you to shoot my white ass than my black friends! #wearentgoingaway #blacklivesmatter #itsnotaboutwhitepeopleanymore #riseup
Better for you to shoot my white ass than my black friends!
Would you mind wearing a sign that says that when you beat on cars, since you’re such a noble, self-sacrificing type? Or are you just another punk who talks big on the internet?
Red power..lol pissed off marine ..@ what the fuck ruck face..pissed off ??? For what??? Go down and watch the gate and road like a good little man kid…lol…
Understandable. one thing you got wrong is the 400 years of oppression The Blacks were first enslaved in Africa, their own people sold them to white men for gun and pots.
Eureka needs immediate curfew. That chp driver had the patience of a saint , people think pounding on a cop car is the path to change? Brightest and the best out there!
Bit,
thanks,
What does our local chp have to do with Floyd?
Yeah EPD and Hum Co Sheriff, get over to Minnesota immediately!!
george soros approves…
W.h.,
thanks. Most people don’t know that the group “black lives matter” is funded by soros
to cause division.
Who funds your divisive comments?
Silly when you offer divisive comments for free!
in similar news I heard one third of Russian’s currently believe the worldwide pandemic is a hoax.
Another sucker still clinging to the Russiagate conspiracy theory.
https://kymkemp.com/2020/05/31/governor-newsom-statement-on-demonstrations-across-california-and-the-passing-of-federal-officer/#comment-1092561
Notice the comment, and the reply.
“W.H.” and “Guests” is the same troll spamer that endlessly taunts Kyms comment sections.
W.H. had a brief stint of adopting forms of my name in spite of me calling him out then.
My comment is beyond your scope of understanding because you still don’t see the under the table troublemakers and spammers and trolls.
Even if true, it’s paranoid to worry so much about it. And since you include me in your paranoia, I know at least that much is untrue. Your drama is your problem.
I’ve never included you as “him”.
I’ve also been wrong a couple times and admitted it.
It’s not paranoia.
It’s observation of particular pattern repetitions.
I don’t care to elaborate about it, or debate it.
My comment was only for “him”, and that is that.
Pick another comment of mine to eloquently debate.
Look into the funding of Black Organization for Leadership and Dignity (BOLD), who were the original organizers of Black Lives Matter. They’re controlled opposition. They’re also the promoters of Assata Shakur’s credo, borrowed from the Black Guerrilla Army (“……..WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT OUR CHAINS!!!”).
Hm, I wonder what it would be like to see you during the Civil Rights movement. You would have been the one who said the black people were acting up and shielded your children from them, wouldn’t you have? #georgefloyd
Support for the Civil Rights movement was one of the defining features of my early political development.
The real Brian,
nobody, I live here that’s why I comment, I want things to be better, I just don’t want the town wrecked.
Thanks for the compliment.
Please don’t wreck out town.
The truth is hard to take, but all you need do is some simple research a 5th grader could do.
Evidence? Or just making shit up again Guest?
Repeat after me as I read aloud. G U E S T S.
EPD is an amazing police department who deal with a lot of chaos in this town. I have a lot of respect for those guys, I feel bad they have to deal with this crap from protestors. A few of them are veterans too. And pigs these people are calling them? Makes me sick. These men and women had nothing to do with the murder of George Floyd, they are community service workers in our city keeping us safe on a daily basis. Have some fucking class people!
Sam,
thanks,
I concur,
I agree. These videos are heartbreaking. I appreciate our local law enforcement officers/deputies and how hard they work to keep our community safe. Did you see the video where the crowd dented the CHP rig and broke out the back window? Frightening! What if there is an emergency and our law enforcement is caught up in a crowd and can’t respond quickly enough? I can’t believe they are doing this again tomorrow…. The violence and fear that these crowds are bringing to these protests seem contrary to the message they are trying to promote. There is visible fear in the faces of many of the drivers/passengers in the blocked vehicles, and in the faces of some of the officers. I would be highly stressed and fearful to be caught in this crowd in my vehicle.
Wolf,
thanks I agree.
Good comment.
I think I know who broke the window. After several viewings of the first video I noticed a man carrying what looks like a flat piece of cardboard but isn’t.
At 1:19 he can clearly be seen reaching quickly inside whatever he’s holding.
His position in the crowd before the window was broken was right behind the police vehicle.
He’s not really identifiable cuz he’s wearing a mask. Anyone else think that could be him?
NorCal,
thanks.
Are all the protesters local?
It doesn’t necessarily matter, but, I’ve never seen some of the people in the protests before.
If you look at the FB event page for tommorows protest, you can look at the comments of a few of the protesters. They seem to be from San Fran, Napa, Bishop, etc. I didn’t see one person that lives here that is protesting, in their profiles..
Dog,
thanks,
excellent.
That makes sense. I’ve never seen most of them.
They want to come to Eureka, wreck the town, hassle our good cops, then they can put it on their resume.
They want martial law.
I would like them bussed back to the Bay Area.
There imported from SF and Portland. Remember folks, white people protesting for freedom against government control and there jobs back are privileged white racist conservative nazis. White people who protest, vandalize and riot for the rights of black criminals are labeled hero’s. Welcome to progressiveness.
I’m here! I’m local! I’m white and proud to teach my kids how careful they have to be in making friends with other kids who’s parents align themselves with the white agenda. I have to work extra hard to keep my kids from being ass hatred ridden as most of your white kids. Racism out of Humboldt! So go ahead, be a sheep, fall in line with the other complacent white priviledged white folk here. Its so much easier to walk without courage isn’t it?
AHA! So you are a White person “in the hills” who presumes to speak for urban Blacks. Have you ever lived or worked in a Black majority environment, whiteboy?
Yes, I grew up in a metro area. I have many years of life experience under my belt. Im not a boy, I’m a man. A man who was taught by his father to be a good man, and stand up for a just cause. I come from a prideful Marine family who believes that change happens with civil unrest. Two truths can exist in the same reality here. Boy.
“Metro area” does not mean having any experience in a black majority environment. I’ll take your evasion and spurious reference to your “Marine family” as an admission of having no experience in a Black majority environment, whiteboy.
Rarely is anyone as impressed with themselves as you. Kind of embarassing.
The sheep are following the wrong shephard they need to be following Jesus Christ not Satan
There are 365 days a year to be a real ally and do constructive work toward racial equity. These people are just glomming on to the national bandwagon, misplacing their anxieties regarding the uncertainties and loss of control that we’ve all experienced since mid-March.
A lot further back than mid-March but you are correct that these events are mainly outlets for unfocused rage.
Is the rage not focused on yet another needless and cruel death of a black man by a police over-force action?
The protests tend to quickly lose that focus.
Can people not get it. The second a road is blocked, the second someone wants to walk by on the sidewalk and can’t because it is blocked it is no longer peaceful protest. No vandalism has to even happen. This is use of force, which legally changes it to an act of terrorism. Those who drove slowly through the wall of terrorists were in the right. These losers should all be in jail. As I said earlier, keep out of my neighborhood. Go home and search your souls, if you still have one and you will realize you are the most hateful, despicable mob.
I bet you would say the same about tea party protesters too? This country was founded on protest- we don’t take shit. Doesn’t matter what side of politics you are on. When we see some bullshit we protest it. It’s as American as it gets. If it inconveniences you too fucking bad.
Breaking innocent car owners windshields and vandalizing businesses is mindless violence, not inconvenience…Carrying bats, clubs,shovels, etc. Is not non violent. It goes against peaceful protesting…
Kind of like dumping cargo into the Boston harbor. Peaceful protests have gotten this movement nowhere. Nowhere.
Your right- peace is never an option. Anywhere, anytime. The Boston Tea Party was just a preparation to a real war with violence and plenty of blood, burning and provocateurs. So let’s just enjoy it as the recreational sport of the incompetent it is. Why wait? Oh and don’t whine if it turns out to be your burning and blood over other people’s issues. That’s likely too.
Your analogy fails because the Boston Tea Party did not harass and vandalize the property of common citizens or even local government. It disrupted the commerce of the British East India Trading Company, which as a Crown Corporation was enjoying favoritism at the expense of homegrown businesses. Also, if peaceful protest has gotten this movement nowhere, where have harassment, vandalism, and rioting gotten them? Whatever sympathy there is for their cause quickly gets exhausted when the movement goes in that direction.
If you stand in traffic any traffic you are stupid. Pure and simple. I’m all for protesting, even rioting. But if you are so arrogant that you can stand in front of a 4 thousand pound vehicle with a complete stranger driving it, who is dealing with god knows what, and expect everything to go your way you are STUPID. When you’re a kid your parents tell you to look both ways and be careful because vehicles are dangerous and then as an adult you decide to stand in the way of a semi truck that has 5 times to stopping distance of the vehicle you are used to you deserve to be ran over, not because of any moral issue, because of Darwinism. Evolutionary whise you are not of use to our species because you lack the basic intelligence for self preservation and survival. Why don’t you go stand on a airport runway while your at it? Or park your boat in a shipping lane? Sit on a train track?
In 1776 we protested against government control and over taxes. These protesters are protesting for taxes and the installation of socialism. Big difference.
Ok tough guy Alf. We’ll stay out of your neighborhood because we’re soooo scared of you. Wait which neighborhood is yours again?
My neighborhood is guarded by freedom fighting armed Americans. Bring it on ….. we don’t back down. You throw beer bottles, We throw lead.
Us against them. Just try to bring bus loads of professional shit disturbers to the hills and see where that gets ya. Stay in the city where you belong ! Protected by surveillance, won’t fly in my neck of the woods! Everyone knows who is paying for the civil unrest and the local sheep are following like stupid , no brain, morons.
I’m here in these hills, and im here to stay, [edit]
I thought alf and fanofguest were the same person. Thanks for proving it big bad boy. Quaking in my boots!
I might think in passing that people who hold similar ideas are the same person. But then I tell myself that not only is there no proof, it is immaterial. The same could be said for you and a few other people on here. Somehow it is frequently repeated from the left. Curious. I wonder what in their mentality makes that so important to them? Do they fear holding an unpopular opinion? Is it that they think there is no validity to their goal if people have the power to challenge them? Is the only importance they can see is making everyone one fall in line?
I’m not “from the left”. Nice try though genius🙄😂
Right on Local farmer!
Out in the sticks on the 36, come on out commies!! Free respect dispensed at a distance!
Chief Watson is doing a good job, in a tremendously difficult situation.
Why are the protesters against the local police? Everyone is saddened about what happened to Floyd, but that has nothing to do with our local force. We have good police here, and we need our police, especially during the partial quarantine.
Justice for Floyd would only be accomplished through peaceful protesting,
with no slurs against our local officers, and no vandalism.
I want justice for Floyd also, but any violence toward our town or officers has to go; otherwise martial law could be declared and then we would all lose our rights.
Good job epd, for saving our town, as far as I’m concerned the violent protesters yelling slurs at people that have nothing to do with Floyd, should be asked to leave, the peaceful protesters can stay, but only if they stay peaceful.
I agree. Peaceful protest is the only way to go. Know your history and learn from it. You will never win with violence. The government always wins that battle. The ideals of nonviolence win the slow battle, the real struggle.
Willow,
agreed.
Agree, some people want government control and to live off of subsidies . They like to bite the hand that feeds…..
Haha. Your tone changes quick. Woth alll you spew about control you dont have the gumption to protest abything except on the internet
wrong!
Its not us who are against the police. Its the white priviledged police who are against us. And you, apparently. Why is it so hard to admit the racial inequalities that are present? Is that to hard for your white fragility? Is it to hard for you to side with us? Yup, I bet it is. Rise up, its never to late to do the right thing and get behind the right side of history! #BLACKLIVESMATTER!
You can’t fix stupid.
Yea, says the stupid.
Why are they protesting in eureka? Why not McKinleyville or Fortuna, what’s in eureka that has to do with Floyd?
I for one am saddened by what happened to Floyd, and I totally support their right to a peaceful protest but I don’t want our town torn apart, and they don’t have a right to scream at the local officers.
Screaming is a right.
Yes, but that doesn’t mean it’s a smart thing to do.
Yes! Ot is the rigjt thing to do! Boy.
L.A. just got locked down for the night. Curfew from 8:00 pm to 5:30 am. Is Eureka next?
So I was working all day trying to pay my bills through this pandemic…what is going on? I’m flabbergasted at this disregard for human working life trying to get home to my family. Sad times, and shame on every one of you in the streets keeping me from getting to my family. And yes I waited forever on the bridge. I think you all need something constructive to do.
The protesters in Eureka are from the Bay Area I think, they want to wreck our town I think.
They don’t care about anybody but themselves.
Haha. Ive seen this on multiple news sites that the “protesters” are from elsewhere.. No they are not. People dont have the time to go 100s of miles to go protest
Poor you, you’re such a victim, how sad… you have a job right now and complain about actually making it home to your family. Boohoo, how sad.
So that’s the issue you see? You don’t have job? So where was your protest over that? Poor you, so sad. Might as well destroy something.
I lost my job, had to scramble and get another one that pays far less thanks to this stupid pandemic. And now I’m seeing our cops getting ridiculed for no reason? What’s wrong with you??
says the white person…
Says another White person!
Bad cops put good cops into bad situations.
Good cops don’t knee down a dead body for two minutes reigniting known and valid rage of police brutality.
I doubt you would do that, or justify it.
All very true, but I don’t see how it fits as a reply to my comment.
Just trying to find middle ground for you, lucas and myself to get away from the debate and closer to a bridge.
Bad protestors put good protestors in bad situations. Good protestors don’t ruin an entire movement by looting and destroying good Americans’ private property. Go milk a goat.
Hey does everybody realize that all these business owners that are looted and robbed their insurance doesn’t cover this human disaster claim? It all comes out of owners pockets!
Every insurance policy is different, that’s they’re choice to not include vandalism, an extremely basic thing to cover. As a business owner I would rather kill myself than complain about vandalism, theft or lost income during a Civil rights crisis going on 100’s of years. But I’m not human garbage so I guess I’m different. Very disgusted with the over privileged white folks vibe on this post. Disgusting.
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Look, I have to read this and I need to stay sane so if you can’t stop imagining violence inflicted and then inflicting me with that imagination (I’m the only one who reads your moderated comments) then, I’m going to have to ban you. I value the perspective you bring but this is getting rough for me.
Before publishing an invitation to a protest when that resulted in violence in other places was the point to stop it. The idea still applies.
You know…Writing about the news is my job. You don’t like it. Don’t read me.
You absolutely shouldn’t be angry when people don’t agree with you then. You should report and leave it be. Commenting and getting angry is not your ‘job’. Report and leave it as a report. If you’re going to comment, be ready to defend your stance.
I can be all the angry I want. In my news reports, I provide as best as I’m able information from a neutral point of view.
In my comment area, I comment as a human being who has emotions and opinions. This is my website that I built through hard work, not much sleep and pounding a keyboard and I am equal not less than you here.
And I am defending myself from repeated jabs by this commenter that I’m getting frustrated by. You don’t like it, don’t read my comments.
It’s not about reporting news happening. It’s about makingnews happen by reporting “Two separate groups will gather in Humboldt County today to protest the killing of George Floyd, Monday in Minneapolis, Minnesota by four city police officers.” Not mind you two group are planning to meet, which is a stretch but might be considered news. But acting as a promoter by copying out their rabble ( rousing announcement ““killers-at-large” of the Minneapolis Police Department,”).
Or perhaps it might serve as a warning that there was possibly more than a peaceful protest going to happen. You know some folks were planning on bringing children. I didn’t know what those words might mean, but if I were a parent, I’d like to know what the rhetoric was.
Now you can think of me approving of the breaking windows and tagging buildings and yelling obscenities at police but you don’t know shit about me.
oh there were children there! Many! And we were very proud to March with those families! And those little kids screamed chants so loud, and they cried, and they felt the pain our POC community is feeling. We are proud of our children! And we will continue to bring them and teach them how black people have to fight for their freedom. Unlike your white priveldeged kids! White kids never had to fight for their right to LIVE!
That’s absurd Guest. Getting on Kym for getting the news out is her job and she’s good at it. You weren’t whining when she got the news out about the shelter in place order protest. I’m not sure why she bothers to reply to your drivel. Complete hypocrisy!
Agree with you LF.
Thank you.
I don’t know how you do it. The dirt you have to get through, just the stuff I see, is stupid. It’s as stupid as it is disgusting. I hate stupidity. Please, just dump them. They can find plenty of places to rant and rave. You don’t need it, we really don’t need it. It benefits and furthers nothing. Dump them. We could all take a vote.
Bunny, everyone is entitled to their opinion. And not seeing it doesn’t make it go away.
Kym, just stop answering those goofy comments. It is not worth your time or mental state.
This isn’t about their opinions. We all have them just like that other thing. This is about verbal abuse. It’s also about not respecting your site that you offer to us to share our stories and points of view. I hope you’re still adhering to the rules you set up about a year ago. Like I said, their constant never changing “opinions” are just annoying and they are meant to be. They take away from back and forth conversation. And damnit, I just don’t like them criticizing you. Can we vote…lol?
Agree.
You have my vote.
Opinions are not comments.
Comments are on someone’s property, in this case Kym’property.
Let ignorant and misinformed opinions die or support themselves elsewhere, don’t carry them and give them a platform for a false sense of nobility.
Dump and delete with delight.
Unless they agree with you right?
Wrong.
THATS RIGHT! To bad the businesses aren’t actually being affected in any way while we stand up for whats right. People say we are sheeple for protesting, but that is weak opinion coming from complacent people.
Looks like all the obama support hit the streets
Obama could have done much worse with the lack of criticism in the press he was given. Only because he was by nature a thinker, if a biased one, that it wasn’t.
RACISM!
The guy had a heart attack. Cop didn’t kill him says reports this morning. Autopsy shows no sign of strangulation.
When you have the means of helping someone and people around you are saying help him, and you not only don’t help him but refuse to let him help himself or allow others to help him…you killed him.
If you promote a protest that leads to death, have you killed someone too? Or are you just going to say that you were right to behave as you wanted and that it was not your fault that someone died?
“We have witnessed an outright assault on our law enforcement community last night in Oakland, California,” Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said at a Saturday news conference. “An assassin cowardly shot two Federal Protective Service contractors as they stood watch over a protest.” https://www.foxnews.com/us/federal-protective-service-officer-killed-oakland-shooting
I thought you supported our right to assemble and protest, Guest? Oh only protests condoned by Trump? That’s right you’re being hypocritical again. “Ugly and you don’t even recognize” -some dipshit.
The right to assemble, yes. Having one particular agenda promoted in the press in the light of violence going on? That deserves criticism. You object to criticism only if you agree? That would be “Ugly and you don’t even recognize” it too.
Will you stop with “the press” like we are a monolith? You are too smart for that and it undermines all your arguments.
But you are part of a monolith. In fact the chart to which you frequently refer has 9 sites to the right of neutral and 23 to the left. And of those to the right, the majority are not news at all but pundits. Only two real news sites, the Wall Street Journal and Yahoo News are general news. On the left site are 23 purported general news sites and one pundit. That’s pretty monolithic.
What I would like is for The Press to be 90% smack dab in the middle and a very few (very, very few) to both the left and right to act as canaries in the coal mine. Not that reporters should be without bias personally but they should damn well try better to keep it out of their profession. That is 90% of what I argue so it is not possible to leave it out. You take the brunt because the vast majority of news outlets do not listen to any criticism at all much less let it be seen. That you let criticism stand is a virtue but, even though I keep plugging away at it, it’s like trying to seem the tide of hatefulness by waving a toothpick- not particularly effective but persistent little pokes at least gets some attention drawn to it.
Independent news outlets such as this one are not part of a monolith. Corporate media outlets, who are very careful to select and promote those trained in ruling class ideology (both in “liberal” and “conservative” brands) are the monolith. And that includes The Wall Street Journal. There are also a number of pseudo-independent outlets such as The Daily Beast, Vox, Slate, and The Huffington Post, that are really corporate. Sadly, that is now true for the once-great Guardian (UK).
Is this site still independent or has it been assimilated?
https://kymkemp.com/2020/05/07/good-news-we-got-a-grant-are-going-to-be-able-to-cover-covid-19s-effect-on-our-communities-even-more-thoroughly/
Resistance is futile?
Are you serious? Those aren’t all the news sites. You just have to look at the crap that people “Cite” as “evidence” to know there are literally hundreds of others that are conservative.
Where’s the Christian Science Monitor and the New Republic on that graph? You are totally taking it out of context.
Unfortunately, yes.
Guest is serious.
Seriously mistaken.
I just used what you have used yourself. If it is not complete… However, it is not as biased as you say. It includes most of the major public sites and is a result of a poll about where people say they get their news and it is certainly the major players.
Another rating system (one of more personal opinion but there it is) is below. It suffers from the same weighted slant. And it gives comfort of herd mentality to the opinion rather than the informed.
I thought that the idea of jousting with a toothpick was original. Turns out it’s used among a number of people talking about journalists and their immunity to self examination. “Am really impressed with what you are doing, though it’s like trying to move a ten-ton truck with a toothpick. They’re not going to allow themselves to be exposed.’ (Chomsky, email to Media Lens, September 14, 2005)” https://dissidentvoice.org/2013/02/jousting-with-toothpicks/
Perhaps a vacation from these pages is in order. Shut it down for a few days, let them find another outlet for their child like behavior. Perhaps guest could start one. But we doubt he could do it. You provide more info than the milk toast papers here. I haven’t looked at one of their rags in years, ever since you got this going. I love that you have the ultimate power in this, “EDIT”. OR, EDIT THIS FUCKING SHIT. Edit until you are blue. Edit just to have fun. Have a cocktail, edit, then comment, then edit their response. This is yours, you run it so well, have some fun with it.
YES!
Whiskey and edits!
Go Kym!
(From a moderated commentor)
Yo they have not the right to assemble. But to peaceably assemble. And not to cause a public disturbance or nuance to possibly cause collisions or possible traffic violations by people disturbing the peace.
Look at the first amendment. They are breaking laws to “get their point across”.
They are by definition RIOTING….. I’m an advocate for human rights. And this was a poor means of fucki g anything.
Rediculas.
says the white person
The right to assemble does not mean the right to harass, intimidate, or practice vandalism, and it certainly does not mean the right to incite violence. Inciting violence can get you banned from a comment section online and it can have consequences for protest demonstrations. Since none of the demonstrations have permits they can technically be called unlawful assemblies at any time, although enforcement against unlawful assemblies is a matter of discretion. There is a threshold for enforcement against an unlawful assembly, usually based on the judgement that doing so could be provocative, but it has been crossed in Los Angeles. It would be entirely within the scope of government authority to declare an unlawful assembly at the threshold of incitement to violence.
The violence erupted after Floyd’s murder by cop.
This is normal.
Until the actions change, the reactions should be expected and with equal or more force.
Thos is the nature of change.
I don’t promote riots, but I understand them more than I understand the killing of Floyd, Garner, Philando Castile and countless other blacks murdered by police.
Bad cops put good cops into bad positions.
This was not started by angry citizens.
Kym,
When you have the means of helping someone and people around you are saying help him, and you not only don’t help him but refuse to let him help himself or allow others to help him…you killed him.
True!
Kym, Why do I continuously see you post rhetoric that makes it seem like you are not truly in support of racial justice for black people? Some of your comments seem like you do support racial justice for POC, and I want to believe you do, badly! We don’t know eachother, but you and I share very close friend circles. I want to know Kym Kemp, are you really in support of black people and racial minorities? Or are you going to continue to hide behind your “freedom of speech” argument? Because we locals truly want you to show your true colors so we can tell if you are a wolf, or a fox. Check your white priviledge, and start making good on some of your past comments that are very aligned with white priviledge and racism as seen in media, broadcasting black people and their movements in a negative light. Rise up Kym. Its not to late to tell the whole world, through your reporting and writing ability, how you value human life. Because if you are indeed a stereotypical racist local reporter, I would love to know, so I can not feel continuously duped by you.
So says the self-appointed arbiter of who is privileged, who is racist…..
lucas
People can just be who they are and they don’t have to pick a side just to please you.
That includes Kym
take your I know your friends intimidation and shove it.
White denial here…..
https://mobile.twitter.com/DissanaikeMD/status/1266547820238188550
Interesting discussion here.
the autopsy results we are hearing about at present are apparently just as *paraphrased by the prosecuting attorney* for the criminal complaint, and they are based on the “preliminary autopsy,” and are NOT the final report of the Medical Examiner.
I find them highly slanted, setting up a defense in advance, and as this discussion highlights using the wording of “probable intoxicants” is shady af.
It’s funny how so many people are saying (edit) the police but they are the same people that will run to their car and call the cops for someone not wearing a mask in Safeway.
As always, it’s not what is done but who is doing it that matters. The same people complaining about others peacefully protesting in front of the court house, belittling them as selfish over endangering the public, are strangely silent over people in roaming groups around town in constant violation of the same orders they found so important before.
Not true. I denounce the selfish dweebs protesting that having to wear masks for public safety is an infringement on “freedom” and I denounce the mobs promoting vandalism and not practicing social distancing in the name of “racial justice.” I suspect a lot of people share my point of view.
Mike,
It’s funny how so many people are saying (edit) the police but they are the same people that will run to their car and call the cops for someone not wearing a mask in Safeway.
Also true!
To the person who said there is no slavery in United States, you are wrong
There are thousands of people being trafficked here. Local women have been telling their tales of being trafficked
did anyone see Chief Mills yesterday? Mills and the Mayor on the corner taking a knee with the protesters. I would say it went well.
Right… Edifying spectacle.
We protesters have no problem with police who are on the right side of history here. They are our brothers and sisters and support our cause. Its the rest of the racist police force we have a problem with! Don’t get it twisted!
Statistics show that people that died in police custody are made up of 43% white 33% black, 20% hispanic .and the remainder was other. All life matters!
Of 917 officer-involved fatal shootings in 2015
55% white,
27 %black,
19 %Hispanic
More here .
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/07/white-cops-dont-commit-more-shootings/amp/
While minorities still have 2x greater risk of a fatal encounter, overall more whites have lost their lives to police use of force.
[edit] Its not about all life! BLACK LIVES MATTER! GEORGE FLOYD! WHITE PEOPLE CHECK YOURSELF!
Is this parody?
Thirdeye,
I was just wondering the same thing.
If Lucas is a troll, then I tip my cap. He/she is on the level of Chump or Colbert.
Says the person who likes stars…
I feel hella bad for humboldt county’s police force at the moment. I mean look at all them dumb fucking people.
Rioters and hoodlums. Fucking kids should be ashamed. If they want to make a statement. This is not how anyone should go about it.
They way step out of their first amendment rights to harass and cause damage and harm to fellow men and women that are here to try and protect us.
Yeah police brutality is a thing. But look at this shit it’s going both ways. And if people want to make a statement against it. But becoming g violent like the cop did solves nothing nor presents a proper statement of peace.
Says the white person…
How do you know that and how does that invalidate what was said? Are you also White?
I am indeed white! And I am calling out all these white people who are blasting off their troll comments while hiding behind their computers like, wait for it……Sheeple! Have any of you read the books that break down the rampant racism running through this country, and through this thread? Many of them written by white people for white people? Have you been to any workshops locally on deconstructing racism, power, and priviledge in white america? Probably not. Have any if you truly done the bookwork to try and see the view of white power and priviledge in America? No. Instead, you use your Google searches and blanket statements to justify how POC movements are ridiculous and unwarranted. There are no POC people here on this thread who are using these baseless arguments you are making. No. PoC are saying they are dying, they are under constant racial attack, and they are all dismissed by blatant racist comments by whites, or (even worse) dupped by the “woke” white people who claim their allyship, only to discount the POC view when their white fragility is threatened or stay dangerously silent when they have opportunities to speak up in the moment. So yea I am white. And proud to be in support of my brothers and sisters!
As someone who cut his political teeth in support of “POC movements,” it was an important lesson to realize that sometimes they can be wrong. And the wrongest among them are those based on Critical Race Theory from which you compulsively borrow all the buzzwords such as “white priviledge (sic),” “allyship,” “white fragility,” etc.
If you want to learn some real lessons fast, spend some time in a Black-majority environment. It should quickly show you how ridiculous your ideological foundation is. That is, if you’re capable of learning anything at all.
And those catch phrases are inherently racist in and of themselves as they basically state that all white people have an advantage over or a death wish towards all non-white people simply because of race.
The group “organizing” the protest in Eureka today is Humboldt Grassroots, a proclaimed anarchist organization. Here is the beginning of their platform from their website:
“We identify ourselves as anarchists and with the anarchist-communist tradition of anarchism. We recognize a need for anarchist political organization around a common platform.”
The protests of the pre-internet and pre-social media era included people actually paying attention to who was organizing the protest. Often, there was in-person planning, there was solidarity of goals of the protest, there were agreements made to stay non-violent – or maybe not to – but at least people were on the same page and knew what they were getting into.
What I see happening across America right now with these protests is that some group posts a time and place on social media and a whole bunch of people show up with different ideas and philosophies of what the protest is going to be. You watch the footage and you see just as many protesters getting angry with one another as you see protesters getting angry with police.
Without effective organization, thoughtfulness, purpose, and truly speaking truth to power, these protests will continue to only be seen as random and unpredictable mobs of people who may cause harm to others and themselves. Unfortunately, I think this is what Humboldt Grassroots probably wants so unless you are an anarchist yourself I would steer clear of the “protest” today in Eureka.
thats right. And there are many POC who were organizers. This is another post by a white person trying to skirt around their white privilege here. TAKE YOUR RACIST ASS TO A PREDOMINANTLY BLACK NEIGHBOORHOOD AND READ YOUR WORDS ALOUD. NO, instead just keep hiding behind your white priviledge, computer screen, and cultural approriative use of your Handel, “hippie”. Yup, must be a White person who wrote this racist ass comment too!
You presume to speak for Black people. Who appointed you with that authority? Since you denounce what is said behind a computer screen that applies to you as well, tough guy. Please show us where Rayburn referred to race in his post about Anarchist punks, unless you’re just someone who compulsively plays the race card. And for all I know you’re just a White Anarchist for whom Rayburn’s post touched a nerve.
If there are “many POC” who are organizers of Humboldt Grassroots they are in the same league as the White Anarchist punks.
dismissing POC protests to say they are organized by anarchists’ is a form of dismissing the validity of the cause. A tool used to fear monger and discredit POC rights. Same tools used by white people during the fight for civil liberties from the start!
The whiteboy who thinks he speaks for Black people raises his head again! The role of white Anarchist punks in instigating these protests is a fact they proclaim proudly, until somebody points out the long-standing attitude of White leftists regarding Black people as cannon fodder.
hey everyone! Look! We got a typical bully in our midst! Great trolling “third eye”. Keep it up! It just keeps making you look sooooo good! BOY.
In other words, WAAAAAH! This guy made my race-baiting look stupid!
Looks like my comment about White radicals regarding Blacks as cannon fodder touched a nerve.
A white person going to a black community and saying unpopular racist things would likely have repercussions. And maybe that is a point you would consider before announcing unpopular racist things in any community, considering you to are hiding behind a computer screen too, relying on tolerance you seem to think is not available in a black community. An evil talkung evil is not magically transformed into a good. It stinks in any community.
Said by another whote person……
Breaking stuff, graffiti, and threats of violence makes this protest useless. This is going nowhere in a hurry, even in Humboldt. What do you want to get out of this? If it’s more rights or better treatment, you’re not going to get it by being violent and ruining things. As a matter of fact, it is probably doing the opposite and growing the divide, and people of color will be treated worse.
Don’t agree with graffiti and threats, and if it turns to violence up here in Humboldt County, I couldn’t agree with this ‘protest’ any less.
shhhh. Sit down. Fight war with war! If you are white, you don’t know what it is like to live in a time that feels like 1965. Rise up!
One problem with the “fight war with war” slogan is that if people see YOU instigating a war, they could respond in kind. Don’t complain about the result if that happens.
A war has already been instigated by people like you who are trolling to challenge and silence the people who are fighting for equal human rights.
Nobody is silencing your stupid utterances here. They have value as specimens, whiteboy.
Actually I lived 1/2 a block away when a police station was bombed in SF in the 60’s and I’m white so don’t tell me what I know.
Also one of my best friends was a Black Panther.
Also lived there through the Cinque/Patty Hearst trip.
Are you really using the, “I have a black friend” argument? Noted. Again, of you are white, you don’t know what its like!
I didn’t claim to.
But yes I have friends that very much know what it’s like.
And we talk, we laugh, we cry, we’ve lived together and apart, sorry if that bothers you.
Some people have friends closer than family.
I won’t swallow white guilt for ya, cause it just ain’t true in my case and I’m only responsible for what I do and believe.
You might recall that just before MLK was murdered JFK and RFK were murdered as well.
Slavery was well established long before there was a USA.
If you ever climb out of you victim hood there’s work to do, yes you are one in a long line of victims of many races.
Women have been victims, even white ones.
So, the question is what are you going to do about it besides destroy stuff and ruin more lives?
How many have you had? And since you’re also White, how do you know what it’s like? Are you relying on Critical Race Theory garbage?
Dear little lucas, any woman, white or not, frequently has contact with 1965. In a white or a black community. Does that mean you never can talk about women? Does that mean no one can talk to anyone? Does that mean black people can’t talk about white people? What a ridiculous world you enjoy if that is your view.
“And what happens is we have a neofascist gangster in the White House who doesn’t care for the most part. You’ve got a neoliberal wing of the Democratic party that is now in the driver’s seat with the collapse of brother Bernie and they really don’t know what to do because all they want to do is show more black faces — show more black faces. But often times those black faces are losing legitimacy too because the Black Lives Matter movement emerged under a black president, a black attorney general, and a black Homeland Security [Secretary] and they couldn’t deliver. So when you talk about the masses of black people, the precious poor and working-class black people, brown, red, yellow, whatever color, they’re the ones left out and they feel so thoroughly powerless, helpless, hopeless, then you get rebellion.”
-Cornel West
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/05/29/cornel_west_america_is_a_failed_social_experiment_neoliberal_wing_of_democratic_party_must_be_fought.html
I’m sure you and brother bernie could go live out your dream in Cuba.
Have a nice trip.
I do have respect for but don’t always agree with Cornell though.
You can call Trump a neofascist until the cows come home but it won’t make it true.
It was a quote.
I’d love to visit Cuba but my government won’t let me because it’s too beholden to the gusanos.
At least in Cuba there’s a decent health care system, that costs a lot less per capita than ours.
And you believe cause why Michael Moore made a movie?
Why not move to the Country that represents your values?
I really don’t think anyone would stop you.
There sure are a lot of people that would like to move here and be in your place. Bad health care and all.
I remember a whole lot of people were going to move to Canada if Trump became POTUS but they all still seem to be here.
I guess Canada didn’t want a bunch of folks wearing p*ssy hats…Beaver hats ok but please not the not P*ssy hats..lol
Sorry third I don’t think you’d last long in Cuba before you’d be trying to swim back…there’s a reason so many Cubans live in Florida and thankfully most Americans realized that before Bernie could make his dream come true.
As for those Cuban Health care workers … you’ll find most of them in Venezuela. Maybe you’d like it there better.
It’s amazing how many people suffer from the grass is greener delusion.
You probably have never read my comments with regards to “brother Bernie”. He, as president, would be an unmitigated disaster.
Cornel West is a smart guy who doesn’t play party favorites. I quoted him because it deserves consideration; not because I’m endorsing 100% of what he says. But, with regards to his neoliberal (same as neocon) comment it was definitely an ousting of the Bernie flavor of socialism.
“The fundamental political question is why do people obey a government. The answer is that they tend to enslave themselves, to let themselves be governed by tyrants. Freedom from servitude comes not from violent action, but from the refusal to serve. Tyrants fall when the people withdraw their support.”—Étienne De La Boétie, The Politics Of Obedience
From 9/11 to COVID-19, It’s Been a Perpetual State of Emergency
https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/from_9_11_to_covid_19_its_been_a_perpetual_state_of_emergency
Speaking of threats I recall Joe Biden kept threatening to take Trump behind the barn or gym or where ever.
No comments on Kathy Griffin a couple days ago speaking as to how to kill Trump.
and a whole list of sh*t from de Niro, and meathead.
oops, Not what they intended?
Groups March Into Beverly Hills, Loot Stores On Rodeo Drive
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/05/30/rodeo-drive-protest-looting-george-floyd/
Perhaps they could set a better example for our youth.
I feel so sorry for the officers and their families, they must be so scared. Put the blame where the blame belongs on the person who did it! You say fuck the police? Yah until you need them to come save your stupid ass. Half the tweekers in this march are just wanting an excuse to scream and brake things. I stand with the real officers not the untrained crap murders who hide behind a badge. And I definitely don’t want to feel like less of a person for it. Sorry not sorry. I hope his family is trying to find some peace with everything. They are the victims! Not the white tweeks that are screaming around like idiots.
The best thing to come out of this are the hero’s out there volunteering to clean up the mess all across the nation.
And we finally stopped worrying about the Covid numbers.
Nope, I’m back at it today.
Have to agree with Fast Freddy. The actions of these rioters sure makes me less sympathetic with them. The ones in the cities only use protests to cover stealing from stores. One woman said she does it to support her family. I say live with your life choices and dont blame others! I sure admire the restraint of the police officers,I would not be able to restrain myself with people spitting on me and throwing objects!
So why would this be going world wide
1. If it wasn’t coordinated by Soro’s types?
2. It was just a USA racial issue as some would have us believe?
Anger over George Floyd’s killing ripples far beyond the United States
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/05/29/world-reacts-george-floyd-minneapolis-protests/
look outside the box.
Can you tell me this…Who commissioned the Georgia Guide Stones??
[…] Redheaded Blackbelt has extensive coverage of yesterday’s events. Apparently another demonstrator is set for today at 3:00. […]
NOT PROTESTERS! These are scum bags who want to commit violent acts. This has nothing to do with standing up for the black community. Entitled, hypocritical, selfish and dangerous. Please begin arresting and charging them with incitement to riot felonies!
COMMUNITY MEMBERS: please identify who you know in these videos and expose them! Post online and make sure the entire community knows who is really causing violence in our streets! Employers: if any of these people work for you, please fire them immediately!
Again, another post of fear mongering to silence a just cause. BLACK LIVES MATTER! its not offensive. Its not racist its ok to say that black lives matter in a time where, apparently they don’t! Its okay, maybe one day, you will see how to really have compassion for racial equality.
Racial equality is when all lives matter and all people are free to love one another and choose to do so.
Violence won’t get you there.
What is it about more pain more suffering and more mess that would make someone feel more equal?
It’s easy to destroy things anyone can do that, but it’s much harder to create and build things and not many want to do that.
Right lucas?
Yup.
Well, there you go folks! Look at all your buddies here. Allllllll your conservative trolling racist ass buddies that live and breath among you. POC people reading this, know that there are those who live here that are here for you! As we were here for the fight for our redwoods, and as we are here to fight for native rights. We are here! But, clearly seen on these social media platforms, we are outnumbered! But we are here!
Well I don’t consider myself to be Indian because I’ve never lived an Indian life but my great Grandfather was 100% Cherokee and your sure not here for me.
Perhaps your outnumbered cause your reasons for and your methods of fighting
won’t help.
Try a little Love & Forgiveness instead of hate and bitterness.
If hate and bitterness hasn’t worked for whites ( as you claim ) why do you think it will work for you?
POC we ARE here for you and many of us are white.
People are individuals not collective groups, although some like to label you that way.
Now you use the Cherokee argument huh? Some research would show you natives consider that argument as good as “I have a black friend”. True allyship comes with knowing what word choices are offensive to the opressed people you are defending. That comment about your Cherokee blood will be met with hurt hearts and frustration from the very people you are trying to align yourself with. Noted.
But hey, would it help you to know that all of my native family and all of the professors that are native at HSU that were my mentors also teach how offensive it is to say what you just said? It won’t help, cuz apparently your white fragility is so under attack that you lost all ability to see what the outspoken white dude has to say. the person who has the courage to stick up for POC is labeled as the bad guy while you all continue to rant your ignorance…..k. all good here.
What you call “courage” isn’t courage at all. It’s conformity to how certain shysters taught you to think at HSU. It’s amusing how someone can in one sentence talk about how certain words are “offensive” then in the next sentence refer to someone else’s “fragility.”
It wasn’t an argument ( except in your mind ) it was a statement of my backround, which I’m pretty sure I’m entitled to have a backround.
I didn’t align with anyone but I’m sure my Great Grandfather was aligned with them so can’t see how they would be hurt by that.
There was no white blood in the line before my Grandmother.
I think you’re tryring real hard to be hurt for them though.
Don’t worry about my ” white fragility ” as you call it I’ll be just fine.
My blood can’t hurt anyone’s feelings I think Native people are a bit stronger than that! Geez. You make them sound so frail, I see them as strong proud people.
I’m not trying to sooth feelings just stating a fact. I don’t wobble around much going by feelings. People running on raw emotions rarely make good decisions. So be as pc as you like just don’t expect me to.
I have a life education you won’t get at HSU.
Maya Angelou’s brother Bailey lived with my husband and I for 6 mos. met her mom as well… that was education.
Cecil Williams and Glide Memorial Church was education.
Jim Jones, the peoples church, and the politicans that promoted him to the poor was an education.
Not listening to a HSU professor.
I have several black friends and my great grandfather was Cherokee and you don’t speak for any of them. They all have their own voices but nice try.
As I stated I’ve never lived the life as an Indian and therefore relate as white. I do love and respect Indians though and wish I knew more than I do of their culture.
Unlike you I don’t pretend to be their (POC or Indian ) spokesman which I think they might appreciate.
I do know you don’t represent my friends.
Your 60’s senerio falls flat.
And you seem to over estimate your own importance.
Don’t like it? Too bad. Facts are facts.
lucas,
A little more of my education,
Being 17 married with my first child when all the kids came to the Haight Ashbury,
Watching all my male friends get drafted to go fight in a country they never heard of.
All the great music!
Watching that turn into drug addicts, aids and the Charlie Manson nightmare.
A few years later becoming manager of a SF retail store and hiring people from all over the world working with them every day, learning about their lives and cultures. Folks from China, Laos, Vietnam, Mexico, San Salvador, A jew raised in Argentina, Nepal and Russia.
While living with travelers from Germany and England.
I’ve reproduced art in a different medium for a well known Mexican Artist at his request and sold it through art galleries and corporations in SF and Denver.
For some dumb reason I consider that an education.
Now after 50 years I’m still married to the same man one of my 2 children has passed. That too is an education.
So now I’ve lived here for 22 years because I want to live a country culture and learn this lifestyle of turkeys in my yard and bears and good ole country folk.
It hardly reeks of white fragility.
For all the PC you learned at HSU they didn’t seem to teach you not to label people.
If that offends you I’m sorry for your fragility. Really.
I most often find your comments to be cluttered with bad information and disagree with a your postings, but I find the story you shared here to be real and interesting and I have a respect for it.
Thanks for sharing.
Maybe the Police should consider Aikido… Take off badge, Take off gun, Agree.. Join the march, lead the march. Change protest into parade (like many other places are). There is no defending this in Minnesota, so don’t.. Eureka has had problems too…so agree… Say, the ____ now see that this cannot continue. We, the _____ will help ensure that! We will add our voice and actions so this will never, ever, happen to us, our children, our families, and our country, anymore.
Ta da!.. Then live by that, forever… because that’s the USA I was raised in is and does… What USA is Minnesota living in??? Or any LEO here. We want to and will help each other… there is no enemy but ourselves. (Pogo)
Buy a firearm and Learn how to use it, store away food and water and vote republican before it’s too late. Save America,Defend your Country.