[UPDATE 10:10 p.m.: A Stunning Turn of Events] Adult Male Found With Fort Bragg 13-Year-Old Is Charged With Kidnapping and Human Trafficking of a Minor
San Francisco Ferry building where the young girl and her alleged captor were located. [Image by JaGa via Wikicommons]
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King John Baylon has been charged with a variety of crimes including kidnapping and possession of child pornography. He faces a $1,000,000 bond and will be arraigned later this week.
King John Baylon [Image from www.Arre.st]
UPDATE 10:10 p.m.: A stunning turn of events…San Francisco District Attorney Is Setting Aside Charges Against Adult Male Found with 13-Year-Old Girl “Pending Further Investigation”
Earlier Chapters:
- FORT BRAGG TEEN MISSING IN SAN FRANCISCO
- 13-Year-Old Fort Bragg Girl Vanished in San Francisco Yesterday After Reportedly Meeting With Adult Male
- Family of Fort Bragg Teen Missing in San Francisco Asks for Help
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Thank goodness, they found her 🙏 I hope she understands he used her & will heal from this someday. Good job to the parents & authorities for their due diligence!
The family is so lucky to have her back. I hope they all heal from this trauma.
So… was it an actual attempt at sex trafficking, or are they just throwing everything they can think of at him and hoping for a plea deal? The previous articles mentioned ongoing phone messages and what sounded like a consensual relationship.
Consensual sexual relationships are typically between adults.
There are no consensual relationships between adults and teenagers that are legal. Some states, like Mississippi may allow 16 year olds to engage in sex with adults. And Georgia has some pretty bizarre consent laws but most follow California and 18 years old is the age of consent. A thirteen year-old is always statutory rape no matter what she says.
I was thinking the same thing. I get that she is a child, but she definitely made some very risky mistakes that her parents need to hold her accountable for. I hope she gets mental help and CWS makes sure her home life is ok.
Home life is very important. Sounds like the parents didn’t keep very close on on her and her Facebook Activitys. Just glad poor kid is alive and well to live and learn.
Don’t blame the parents. This kind of thing can happen to anyone. She has multiple health issues (why they were in SF) Just managing that kind of stuff can be overwhelming. Wow didn’t your parents tell you the story about walking a mile in someone else’s moccasins?
She had no health issues. Her sister has diabetes. Keep the facts straight.
It’s called “grooming”
Predators try to make young girls (mostly, although boys are victimized, too) feel like they’re mature and in control. The predator encourages the kid to assert her “independence” and make choices, stop being controlled by her parents, while steering her into exactly what he’s planning.
She’s 13!! There is no consensual relationship here! She is a CHILD.
child with a smart phone…
recipe for disaster.
flip phones for kids people…
I didn’t have a phone growing up, it was attached to the wall.
And your parents didn’t have a phone attached to the wall and their parents didn’t have phones at all… every generation users the “well when I was your age” reasoning like because they didn’t have it or do it they are fine and maybe better off!!???
let me reiterate the point:
Minors can use flip phones until they can show the maturity of good decisions.
The tragedy is this is just the tip of the iceberg.
13 years old, and way too much screen time. I wonder what these kids will look like in 20 years.
2040?
No comment from willi?
contemplating he is
You can still access the internet on a flip phone
My wife’s flip, slightly newer than mine, can still access the web, although limited. Mine used to but stopped about a year ago because of its low tech. I still get charged for it if I accidentally hit the web key. We were both informed that neither of our flips are LTE/4G compatible and will be obsolete this summer.
Newer flip phones can and will still access the web.
So instead of blaming the man who committed a crime you’re going to blame who? The kid? The phone? The parents? Ridiculous. Everyone knows kids sneak stuff by parents all the time. They’ve been doing it for generations. Don’t excuse behavior that is illegal and wrong
Well I guess you should apply outdated rules to a situation of a different time period and romanticize the past, where this kind of thing could never have happened with a flip phone- or hey before phones. I remember the old days and unfortunately sexual predators and rapists are anything but new
I understand your point. Did he want to be with her(still wrong as she is a minor and he is an adult and helped her leave her family) or was he fooling her to traffic her. Did she agree(he should not have even asked) or was she forced into sexual acts. Shades of gray, all wrong. Hope she and her family heal.
No shades of grey, and shame on you and some of the other commenters for even entertaining the idea. She is a child. There is no scenario in which she is at fault and it is disgusting that anyone considers that she might be.
I think they are mostly saying the parents need to be responsible for this, that, and the fact that in the year 2020, even a 13 year old needs to be aware that there are evil people out there who would do them harm.
Dont shame the commenters. Shame the parents, if they are even around!
I wish people still could even be ‘shamed’. But more and more it seems that is something from the past.
Only one person needs to be shamed here, and he will be, in court.
Your crazy. Parents should be ashamed too!!!
That’s crazy for thinking that! Who hasn’t pulled on over on their parents for one reason or another! Wrong! Kids do all kinds of things dispite what they were taught
Thirteen year olds know more than many parents think or believe they know. You can call he/she a child, but maybe he/she is a 13 year old with the knowledge of an adult. Younger teens have been bombarded with information a parent may think they have not seen or understood by their teens or younger. And especially from the Internet. A parent needs to continually question and investigate what their preteens are looking at. Too many times parents believe their kids are innocent. Wake up!! Most are not. The youngest girl in this area to bring a baby to full term was eleven years old. And she didn’t get pregnant by rape. She admitted she knew what she was doing. Parents are responsible for their children. Too many parents don’t take the time to supervise their children. Some think their kids can raise themselves and then wonder why their sons and daughters get into trouble. The law says the perpetrator is only responsible. In those occurrences the parents should also be held at fault.
I love when parents insist their teens shouldn’t know what porn is, and other equally ridiculous things, apparently entirely forgetting when they were a teen themselves.
Parents are the problem..What parent let’s a 13 year old leave the hospital to go “in the car and get fresh air in SF alone”? I would never left my daughter do that- EVER- because I know what goes on and I KNOW THERE ARE AWEFUL PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD. Parents need to wake up and protect, not throw your kid to the curb because they are too lazy to parent. There were TWO adults at the hospital that day, Mom and Grandma. ONE of them should have been with that 13 year old. I am sure she knew what she was doing. sickens me to death. a huge public scandal. This IS ON THE PARENTS!! MONITOR CELL PHONES, MONITOR CHATS, MONITOR SNAP CHAT….LAZY UNINVOLVED PARENTS TO BLAME.. Is the guy a POS…yes, but it the patents were involved they would know what the girl had been texting…
Ridiculous blaming the parents and excusing the pedophile to blame the child – good one! You’ll make a great parent someday.
Yeah, right”A parent needs to continually question and investigate what their preteens are looking at. ”
Gestapo tactics? Distrust and alienation would be so so harmful besides being useless. Next step, tie them in the basement for their own good.
Thanks for ‘splaining that to me dude, but her family is not the villain either.
to whom this my concern. I am her grandfather and she lives with us. her phone was monitored all the time. no messenger, no Instagram, no Facebook. etc. she got friend to open social media on their phone and she set up account and would use that phone when at friends house. we were trieing, but not good enough. I am sick.
Bart, I am so sorry. Sending hope for better days and healing for all.
The 90s and 00s were hard enough, we are grinding our teeth hoping we won’t have to take over as guardians of our 7yr old granddaughter. Kids can be just as dumb as we were at that age, and, just as smart too.
Bart, our thoughts go out to you. You do what you can and hope it’s enough. Stay strong.
Correct. Go there go to jail.
AClark.
I never was “entertaining the idea” that this girl was to blame in any way. I do not think she is.
I do not care what you think, but would not want her family or friends to take your “interpretation “ as what I meant.
I do NOT lay any blame on the girl. Not at all.
I said “still wrong” and “he should not have even asked” and “all wrong” in regards to any and all possible actions he did and any possible reasons behind his actions.
In my opinion, human trafficking to sell a child into sexual slavery is evil and worse than him wanting a relationship, but I think both are bad.
HE is to blame and He should be punished.
Nor was I blaming her parents.
Again, I wish her and her family the healing they need.
I join you in that wish for their healing and in the belief that there is only one villain, and he is currently in custody. I apologize if I misunderstood your shades of grey comment.
It’s still wrong, but there’s very a big difference between “legitimately had a seemingly reciprocated romantic interest” and “bunch of lies to lure someone into prostitution” like sex trafficking would imply.
There’s no difference at all between pedophile apologetics and what you’re saying here. She’s 13!
There is no difference whatsoever according to the law. Don’t you get it dude? You don’t fuck with 13 year olds. You are supposed to be the de facto adult if you are 18 and over.
Not really. Pretty black and white.
no grey. she is a child. he is not.
ElDub and Amy Mama Bear and anyone else who misinterpreted my Comment,
I do NOT lay any blame on the girl. Not at all.
I said “still wrong” and “he should not have even asked” and “all wrong” in regards to any and all possible actions he did and any possible reasons behind his actions.
In my opinion, human trafficking to sell a child into sexual slavery is evil and worse than him wanting a relationship, but I think both are bad.
HE is the adult, HE is to blame, and He should be punished.
Nor was I blaming her parents.
Again, I wish her and her family the healing they need.
The definition of Human trafficking is moving someone from one place to another. It’s a kidnapping charge. Doesnt have anything to do with sex
Doesnt matter what she thought she was doing. You cant honestly believe you could even non sexually hang out with a 13 year old without parents knowing and be able to drive around freely around multiple cities for multiple days and nights.
Kidnapping is obvious.
Get this! She was seduced by an online predator, who took advantage of her young age, her impressionability, and her adventurous spirit to draw her into a life way beyond what she bargained for. I have had students who have been trafficked. I have had students who were seduced by online predators and permanently broken when they realized what was really happening. There is no culpability on her part. She did not know what she was “consenting” to. At 13, she lacks the maturity and experience to make an informed decision in the middle of a manipulative seduction. (And if she does, there’s a whole other case of child abuse to be made.) Uninformed consent is not consent. This is exactly how pedo predators operate. Book him, convict him, sentence him to life, and stick him out on the main line. He’ll get to find out what he did.
How do you get it through people’s head? She is 13, she is automatically jail bait. Get away, stay away or go to jail. Male or female, family or not. She is not an adult, therefore she can not give her consent. See Jade above.
thank you!!
Consensual my ass!!! She is 13 [edit]!!!
She was 13. Come on. Consensual is between adults.
In CA the age of consent is 18.
You can’t have a “consensual” relationship with a 13 year old CHILD as an adult 22 year old male. Regardless of the “back and forth messages” she’s a child and he’s an adult male who obviously took advantage of a child… child pornography, lewd acts upon a child, and intent for human trafficking!
Yes, he definitely shouldn’t have done this. I’m just curious as to whether it’s actually sex trafficking – he had plans to pimp her and such – or whether it’s one of the more-typical cases of either child abuse or actually thinking he was in a relationship. I’ve been noticing a lot of completely ridiculous charges tacked on to just about everything lately in hopes the person agrees to a plea deal, and I don’t think that’s how our justice system is supposed to work.
I think its human trafficing, not sex trafficking.
Bushy Tails is just looking for any excuse to defend the pedo lifestyle. The actual charge in question is “Human Trafficking” but he’s charged with plenty of other sex offences.
I’m sorry that I have degrees of criminality, and don’t consider someone who deluded themselves into thinking they had a viable relationship as equally criminal to someone who kidnaps little girls and pimps them on the streets. And in this case I’m genuinely curious as to which one it was. And I also really dislike the charge-everyone-with-everything-even-though-only-10%-of-it-would-stick approach to justice, which this may or may not be.
“Viable relationship” Whatever you say, Michael Jackson…
WTF don’t you get lol there’s no viable relationship!
Did you even read what I said? Like the words immediately before what you quoted?
DAs always overcharge so they can plea bargain the case and obtain a conviction without going to trial.
The adult male took advantage of the “access” that smart phones give to minors. PERIOD.
An adult can’t have a consensual sexual relationship with a 13 year old in the United States
THANK you!!!
🕯🌳I’ll second that. 👍🏽👁
Are you freaking kidding me? She is a CHILD!!!!!
Keep this up and you’ll find Chris Hansen waiting for you with a plate of cookies.
Consensual sexual relationship between an adult male and a what 13 year old? I don’t care if they spoke 24-7 on the phone or text or IMing.
I’m going to make an assumption regarding your post, your not understanding the situation or you believe if a girl, woman, female talk to you they agreed to have sex with you. Wrong so wrong. A 13 year old cannot consent to having sex with an adult male.
A 13 year old child can not CONSENT. PERIOD.
A 13 YR OLD CAN’T CONSENT!!!!!
I just cant even with some of these comments. She is a child. Her brain isn’t even close to developed yet.. a grown adult man is manipulating, controlling and using her. Plus in some of these situations, they threaten the family. Who knows why she did it and I pray she gets all the help she can but consensual isn’t even a term that can be used because she’s a child and a young child, no where even close to 18 years old. He should prosecuted to the absolute fullest extent of the law and never released!
An adult male cannot have a “consensual” sexual relationship with a 13 year old child. If they were having any kind of reoccurring relationship leading up to her abduction that was all considered grooming.
@Bushytails,wow, I have noted you whining about not being able to meth speed on roadways, because people are actually doing the speed limit. That seemed weird and very much centered around your notion that you needing to get somewhere fast was more important than other people’s lives on the road.
Now you’re questioning how it’s wrong for a 22 year old man to be with a 13 YEAR OLD GIRL?! Maybe you don’t have kids, but I assure you, a 13 year old girl is a GIRL. NOT A WOMAN.
JFC
No, I did not question that. I questioned whether the charges filed against him were correct for the situation. And, as it turns out from today’s update, the DA was questioning this as well.
Who cares if it was consensual??? She’s 13, he’s 22. That’s DANGEROUS and SICK
That’s how trafficking starts.
Consensual….she’s 13
@bushytails You promote and defend pedophilia and child trafficking? No child aka minor can ever be in a consensual sexual anything with an adult. That’s the law and I wonder what highly illegal crimes you’ve seen or been involved in. You have ZERO idea what & why the DA is doing anything, you obviously have no knowledge or respect for law or children. [edit]
I’m sorry but a 13YO child cannot consent to anything!
When they start executing these sick vermin immediately after being found guilty at trial then the world will be a better place!
A 13 yo is a child and can not give consent. Seriously?
There is NO CONSENSUAL RELATIONSHIP when it comes to an adult with a minor of 13 years old.
Most sex traffickers meet young girls online and lure them in just like this.
I wasn’t the child’s fault. It’s the parents. They should be monitoring her phone and teaching her not to be talking to adult males and thinking it’s okay to meet behind her parents back. Obviously this little girl has a lot of time on her hands and isn’t watched carefully enough for this stuff not to happen. The parents need to be held accountable.
Wrong….she knew what she was doing. Maybe not the chances she was taking. He may have lured her…but unfair to lay all blame on parents
Ummmmm it was the flippin’ rapist’s fault!
WTF is with you people always blaming the parents? Don’t have teenagers yourself do you?
Blaming parents and not the pedophile doesn’t work people
Part of growing up is learning there are consequences to the decisions they make. While a 13 year old may not be at fault, she has a responsibility to learn better decision making on her path to womanhood. Many don’t and we* see them living tragic lives as irresponsible victims.
*At least I do, maybe disproportionately at Wildwood.
It’s the fault of the pedophile. Don’t blame parents for acts of criminals who are pros at luring children.
I’m so glad she was rescued, and hope she and her family have all the help they need to heal and recover. Hopefully they never see this comment stream.
🕯🌳Just thanks that she’s back safe with her family and has hopefully learned a lesson. 👍🏽🛐
Getting raped is not way to “learn a lesson”.
The amount of victim blaming/ shaming is horrendous on this post!
Some of you “adults” should be ashamed of yourself and your way of thinking as this whole situation involves a child for fucks sake! She is a CHILD! Let’s hope that none of you have children that this could happen to. Also the blame being put on the family is not okay either…. regardless of how you feel or what your beliefs are, a 22 year old man lured a 13 year old little girl away from her family and took advantage of her innocence. We have no idea what she went through or how she feels/ will feel after all of this is over.
We live in a society where PREDATORS have easier access to our children via social media and internet… we need to be having discussions with our children/ families about situations like this.
THIS STORY COULD HAVE HAD A WAY WORSE ENDING!!! Thank goodness this little girl gets to go home to her family and I hope she is able to heal from everything that happened to her!!!!
When my kids were young and got their phones and played games online, I told them if I ever caught them talking to someone they did not know, EVERYTHING would be taken away! The internet i believe is an evil necessary. We need to teach our kids to be safe and monitor their activities! Thank God she got to come home alive!!
You can not be with your kid 24 hours per day. Many misguided schools require computer access for assignments while teachers are poorly trained or equipped to monitor sites the kids visit while “doing assignments”. It’s a new world out there and PREDATORS are better at this game than most concerned parents are.
There should be NO mercy for pedophiles/child predators. Period.
Do not give children smart phones unless there is clear and concise rules for using them. You don’t get a driver’s license until 16, provisional, meaning you must have an adult in the car. The phone is most definitely a tool that needs some age restrictions. There’s plenty of predators that count on parents wanting to be their child’s friend, instead of a parent.
When in doubt, flip phone for the young scout.
And then they just get a burner phone from a friend or use theirs. Or one you had in a drawer and forgot about but it still can get internet on any free wi-fi node. Go ahead and tell me that doesn’t happen. Kids on a mission to betray their parents or take the bait of a predator can be VERY crafty.
WiFi kill switch at the house, parents have the wired line to the office with password.
Not too hard to encourage better behavior earlier.
Some breeds of dogs need training or they become a danger. This is obviously a subject that the telecoms aren’t too worried about. Similar to getting kids addicted to cigarettes early.
Brave new world.
Agreed! But the true capitalists may not.
I agree. Travistock for president. 😂👍👍age limits on smartphones. 100 percent agree
Bullet.
looks like in a gang, aren’t those teardrop tats under his left eye
It’s three dots, not necessarily affiliated with a gang but a fairly common prison tattoo. It stands for “mi vida loca” or “my crazy life” it is sometimes used to represent the holy trinity.
thank you for explaining, wasn’t sure what i was seeing
Definitely unfair to blame the parents. I had the best parents anyone could hope for. They were absolutely great. I took many chances as a young teen.
Many years before cell phones & internet. I thought it was adventurous and daring to meet with older men, made me feel attractive and grown up to have sex with them, and was very naive about what could happen.
Almost ended up being trafficked and raped. Thank God I got away before that could happen. I’ve looked back on some of these experiences, and really, the only thing my parents did wrong was to trust that I was making intelligent choices. Also, I’m thankful that they never knew what I was up to. It would have hurt them deeply.
You really have to stay vigilant as a parent. The best, most loved and stable kids can make a wrong turn out of simply seeking what they think is adventure. They have no idea how painful it is for their parents to have them go missing, even for a short time.
So glad to know that she is now safe, and she and her family will hopefully heal and go forward in a positive direction.
Can we discuss death penalty yet? I know the bleeding hearts of Humboldt- those whose misplaced compassion has ruined our society- will tell me to chill and vibe rainbow energy but….We have a major human overpopulation problem that is killing our planet. We have guys like this one. You want to pay for his food and shelter for the next 50 years because YOU are morally superior and care so much?!! Let’s revamp the death penalty and start using it…
Right wingers don’t trust the government to operate the roads or schools but they have no problem allowing it to summerily execute people no matter how unreliable the sentencing or expensive the appeal process.
You’ve got my vote!!! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Well at least he looks like a 13 year old, probably weights 90 pounds.
Seriously, I know he is much older but how in the hell was he able to talk her into anything with a mug like that?
He put the king in human trafficking.
He only looks to be about 15 or 16. Not 22. This is not his first rodeo. And with child porn, I’d bet he’s not working alone. Not sure what the plan was but I’m sure it wasn’t a happily ever after.
And for any of you without 13 year olds, not an easy age. Not the parents fault but we all need more education on this when we live in small safe neighborhoods.
Thank goodness she is safe and a purp is in custody.
The victim and victim-family blaming is nuts.
So because we never talk about this stuff, I wonder what this 22 yr old male’s ACES (Adverse Childhood Experiences) score is that brought him to this walk of life? Or was he truly “looking for love”. Either way to all a bit sad. He is just a kid himself.
He is a grown adult with full knowledge of what he’s doing. Many of us score high in Aces but we have choices in life, repeat the abuse or change and become a good person. There is no excuse for this no matter how much you blame his childhood. Once you’ve reached adulthood, it’s 100 percent your responsibility to make choices and decisions for good or evil.
I don’t care what his ACEs are – he just passed that on. People with high ACEs do not automatically become criminals.
There should be NO mercy for child rapists, pedophiles, child predators.
Keep them under lock and key during investigations and, if found guilty, castration is a good trade if the criminal ever wants to re-enter society AFTER serving minimal time before then.
Snip and tuck or monitored hormones. Either way.
All these fools who speak of consensual sex on her part, are just having trouble wrapping their heads around the fact, they were once victims themselves, who think they had consensual sex with their adult babysitters etc. I’ve heard it before and I just have been astounded, how many thought they made the choice at, even 8yrs old.
Protect your kids. Educate your kids.
Maybe the ones talking about a child having given “consent” are pedophiles themselves.
How utterly rotten to publish the list of charges AFTER IDENTIFYING THIS YOUNG VICTIM.
How much help would I need at 13 with a list like that attached to me? I was self conscious enough trying to stay under the radar.
I’m pretty sure it said the parents wanted it printed
I hate to say this but this entire post should be removed. Whoever allowed the charges to be published with an identified CHILD VICTIM made a huge mistake. The comments are shameful and filled with misplaced blame. If and when the child ever reads this it will confuse her and shame her even more. I sincerely believe this post should be removed, or the comments stopped. The healing will take a lifetime, public humiliation on top could cause irreparable damage. There is no good to come out of this continued speculating and debating by people not involved.
Guest, I agree. And to those of you blaming a child for the results of a predator, while the parents were in Children’s Hospital dealing with another child’s health crisis, your cold hearts say it all.
Thanks, Guest. On the other hand, it seems to me that a discussion like this ought to be had, minus the aforementioned points. Like some kind of Adult Education or civil online themed platform.
While I’m not in a position, thank the gods, to benefit from some of the clarity I’ve gained on these issues, others certainly are.
Still, I feel the shame of treating this family’s ordeal so clinically. I apologize to them and do feel they were, and are, blessed.
Yes. You are right.
What is wrong with some of these commenters?!? Victim blaming this girl and her family? I’m wondering if these are predators who are commenting. Who else would do that? Absolutely disgusting!
He is 22 years old, he shouldn’t even be texting a girl that age! He looks young, did you think for a second that maybe he lied about his age? Made her believe he cared about her? These are the mind games that are used on young girls. But, I bet you already know that.
You people blaming her and her family should be ashamed of yourselves. You are sick!
They should take him straight to San Quintet top tier what goes up most come down .🙈⬇️ He’s not a kid he is a 22 year old gang banging sex trafficker most likely MS-13 he was probably trying to meet up with a pimping circuit or so called family, law enforcement probably found her barely in the nick of time before he slithered off to the other side of the United States or god knows what else city in some gehto neighborhood were law enforcement won’t even go to he was trying to get her out of the city possibly on the ferry who knows .
And if he had a car- or an associate with a car- she would be gone forever and never seen again. This guy needs to be eliminated- after a trial of course. But people around here are thinking so compassionately about him and his upbringing, the unfairness in his life and why he became this way…the poor guy!! Misplaced compassion that destroys us all …while posing as understanding and caring. This guy is a monster.
I could not agree more. Thank you for that.
If anyone wants to be compassionate, go rescue a puppy.
🕯🌳I’ll second that too.👍🏽🇺🇸
The 13 yo girl was very lucky, since this man is a smooth operator in enticing her into thinking that she was to be his one and only, and who knows were she would have ended up if law enforce hadn’t caught up with the two of them.
Where is the charge of RAPE listed? DOn’t like the f’n euphemisms.
PC 261
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=261.&lawCode=PEN
Rape is the first word in the section title. Its not a euphamism, its just super-specific.
Read the last six charges on the list. They tell it all. Usually most newspapers will not release this much information on a rape victim. I suspect because the story started out as a missing child that more information was given.
I think this entire post should be removed.
If not that than her name and all the comments.
There is a lot of parent blaming that is awful. They are not to blame for this man’s evil actions.
She is not to blame either. Even though she made a poor choice to communicate with a stranger, The horror of his actions are not her fault and she did not deserve this.
He is rotten and took advantage of a young teen.
Parents should also have some charges against them !!!
They should have been looking and asking questions regarding her phone privileges.
The child is only 13 years old, not 18..!
At 18 a child can make their own choices.
The fact that this little girl had many online accounts show she was neglected. I feel so sorry for her. Her parents failed her!
I can only hope this girl’s traumatizing nightmare will open the eyes of moms and dads of teenage girls & boys.
Stop parent and victim blaming. It doesn’t help and it’s uneducated
Why because she is a white from fort Bragg and he is a dark from LA. Look at them they look the same age. Dark people stay away from the supreme race. Start doing background checks and ID checks for young teens. There are many people missing from Mendocino county but this particular case seemed to be tragic, curious kids….. Sad another person in the system and the state paying to house those people she costs tax payers and the county, state alot of money. She is posing older than 13 there are consequences. Come on people knock it off times have changed so has the sex of people. Multiple accounts.alias.why wouldn’t it be clever for a 13. The parents are fully responsible especially at the UCSF for medical services take accountability and responsibility parents.
🕯🌳The girl had to been communicating with the dude before she took off,and took the opportunity when they were at where they were at. She was suckered in by a professional,and now San Francisco is embarrassed. 🇺🇸⚖📡
I agree that there can not be any consensual relationship between a 13 and 22 year old. He is deplorable.
However, given the fact that she lied about where she was going and waited for him in a restaurant, lied to the manager about whom she was meeting and willingly went with him, is it possible she lied about her age?
This isn’t a case of someone kidnapping a 13 year old off the street while she was innocently getting some fresh air.
She was complicit in this situation. Yes, she is a child, however, these days adolescents think they know everything. They will make errors in judgment. I’m not victim blaming. I’m merely pointing out a very obvious and real possibility.
PUKE of a comment!
Wow so many amazing and perfect parents with perfect children and teens commenting on this forum. I hope your child is never in this situation!! My parents were very strict and were good parents, yet I still did things I shouldn’t have done as a teen. Parents often trust their kids to do the right thing based on what they teach them, but teens don’t always do the right thing and they think they know everything and are naive and often don’t know better! However these CHILD PREDATORS do know exactly what they’re doing!!! I’m so glad Sienna was found ALIVE. And her family who obviously loves her acted immediately and did what they could to bring her back home quickly.
So many unfortunate cases of missing children do not end so well. I worried for this beautiful girl and many other I see missing on my social media and I pray that they are found safe. It is a parent’s worst fear to lose a child, especially in the hands of a sex offender, child molester or killer. Too many bad people out there!
I’m sure they all learned there lesson. But it doesn’t take away the fact that this man knew what he was doing and knew it was illegal!!! You do not know what he would have done to this girl had the police not found her. She may have been murdered.
These child predators need to be locked up for life or given the death penalty or they will continue to prey upon our innocent, naive children!!!
God bless Sienna and her family and the rest of the missing children who have not been found. It’s so easy to judge other parents until it happens to you so perhaps you shouldn’t be so judgemental.
If you still got into trouble then your parents still didn’t supervise appropriately. If they had you wouldn’t have gotten into trouble without them knowing. Your making this up or your parents were not what you are saying they were. Parents who successfully raised their children correctly supervised them. You can’t get into trouble unless you are genetically a predisposed to make those mistakes. [edit]
So…how do you explain parents who have multiple “good” kids and one that breaks the rules? How can they have been good parents to some and not to others?
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So, I overate last night, and couldn’t sleep. And lying in bed, I spent some time thinking back to when dinosaurs roamed the earth, and I was a teen. And I realized really just how awful a lot of the parents in this thread are, and how glad I am that you weren’t mine.
Restricting communications, monitoring everything, reading private things, threats and punishments… Are you raising a kid, or running a prison?
Starting from around 6th grade, the only thing my parent expected was a phone call if I wouldn’t be home in time for dinner, and some idea where I’d be if I wasn’t going to be home that night at all. And then my friends and I would go explore the woods in every direction, build things (highlights included a boat and a hangglider), have adventures, see who could plink the most beer cans off a stump, hang out at each other’s houses, listen to music, and generally enjoy life. And that was just in grade school…
Back then, a 13 year old was expected to be fairly independent, have an active role in the household, possibly have a job (I got my first paycheck when I was 12 if I remember right), safely use dangerous things, and not be tied to momma’s apron strings. And from what I’ve heard, due to better nutrition and such, kids are growing up earlier, not later.
If you’re going to treat your kids like inmates, restricting and monitoring their every move, maybe that helps understand why so many teens these days turn to drugs, video games, depression, angst, running away from home, and generally not enjoying life. Your kid is a separate person, and will lash out if not treated as such.
As to teens and sex… I recall everything down there kicking into gear around 4th grade, or rather I don’t really recall the exact timing (it’s been a while), but I distinctly remember where I was when a (fortunately much) younger sibling caught me testing alternative uses for a cylindrical household object. It’s funny the things you remember. By 6th grade I was more than familiar with how my body worked, was starting to get a pretty good idea of what kinks I enjoyed, and had absolutely no clue what my sexuality was. By 8th grade I’d become pretty knowledgeable about various kinks (and, for some of them, pretty experienced), and had a growing collection of making-jesus-angry objects hidden in the bottom of my closet. Still no clue what my sexuality was, just that it obviously wasn’t the same as everyone else’s. That wasn’t something we were taught about back then, and I really wish it had been. By her age I could have easily passed as an adult when talking about adult topics, especially if texting had been a thing, but probably would have had good luck even in person, having well-developed secondary sexual attributes.
Not saying that happened in this case, but I figured I’d put it out there to remind all the posters that they were probably doing such things when they were a teen too, and this whole “teens are perfectly innocent snowflakes” thing is both entirely delusional and hypocritical. Back then, just let me grab some rope, a gag, and my enema bag, and I’d show you just how innocent I could be… And from my experience with other adults who aren’t lying to others or themselves, I really doubt many of you were entirely unfamiliar with sex until you turned 18 either.
And I remember a little later, one of my teachers, a rather tall strong woman, who I’d have been quite happy to see wearing one of my strapons… But I never acted upon that. Maybe I should have, would have been fun. It certainly wouldn’t have been her fault if I had.
As a side rant, I’m very glad we’re teaching more-complete sex-ed at younger grades, and wholeheartedly support teaching a full sex-ed program by 3rd grade, with topics including alternative sexualities and activities at later grades, and making it mandatory so conservative whackjobs can’t prevent their kids from learning what they should know. And “how to stay safe online” should be part of that class.
So, to summarize… Teens aren’t toddlers. Don’t treat them as such. A lot of you sound like really awful people, and I’m really glad none of you were my parents, and I was allowed to have a happy childhood. Let your kids grow up.
What happened in this case? We may or may not ever find out, now that it might no longer be treated as a criminal matter. It sounds like he probably wasn’t planning on kidnapping her and pimping her on the streets, at least. Did she lie about her age, or simply omit that little detail in conversations? Does she have an unhappy home life (possibly due to parents like some of the ones posting above) and talked him into helping her escape from it? Did he honestly think they would be a happy faithful couple? Or is he a serial predator and the DA is going to file twice as many charges tomorrow? We’ll hear if that happens, at least.
Just because a kid is involved isn’t reason to be irrational. There’s people above making all sorts of wild assumptions, and calling for punishments all the way up to summary execution, with zero knowledge of the details of the case. Something didn’t sound right to me with the trafficking charges, and when I questioned whether this might be overzealous charging, I immediately got attacked and accused of being a pedo myself. And now the charges have been dropped, at least temporarily, showing that I was right to question what might actually have happened. No, I don’t expect anyone to apologize – I’ve been on the internet long enough to know that’s not happening. Hell, maybe it was exactly as described, and he’ll end up in jail for the rest of his life – but if even the DA isn’t sure yet, attacking other posters for not being sure is rather jumping to conclusions.
There’s way too much blame going around for how much knowledge is going around. And seriously… you’re calling for executing someone without a trial. Really. Do you not find that wrong? American values, anyone?
And now I’ve spent like two hours writing this and need to go do useful things.
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I see your point BT. I was raised in a fairly free And open house hold in certain ways. One parent Totally a Hippy, the other More Republican leaning. Go figure. In many regards, I was fairly free to do what ever. In some aspects not. For example, Television. I wasn’t allowed to watch Television or play video games till I was in high school, and even then there wasn’t a TV hooked to cable or an antana in my house throughout high school. But let me tell you, I learned a lot about electrical devices dissecting T.V.s and radio’s trying figure it out till I got a signal… lol. But your kinda right, more restrictions actually for me, led to more open rebellion on my part.
In a lot of ways I was given a lot of rope to hang myself with. And quite often did. Luckily I found my footings thru it all. Probably because in part, because of my rebellious nature, summers, I was shipped to my grandparents farm and sentenced to hard labor.. But at least I got to watch TV there.. ha! But I didn’t spend much time watching it. There was an older practicality abandon horse that I bonded with and nursed to back to health, so much of my free time was either with my cousins, (I lived to blow thier little small town minds open) or with my horse. But regardless, I had a good upbringing, and an awsome childhood. I was taught a lot of responsibility with my freedom, and did ok with it….
One of my sisters, on the other hand. Didn’t do so well, in and out of rehabs. Connecting often with the wrong sorts of dudes and people. Now an addict, lost both of her kids, that my other sister is now raising..Honestly I wish they would have had more restrictions with her, she obviously couldn’t handle the freedoms given to her.
So I guess I kind of see it as a give and take, some kids can handle it, others struggle.
I also see what your sayin in regards to making assumptions. Even though I totally think that charges may be in order, and I can see how some people get institutionally judged in instances like this.. but that’s why there are courts. Not that they are the greatest. Members of my family have experienced essentially what I believe to be institutional racism and it cost them most of their adult life, behind bars..
Anyhow TX for your Rant, and perspective BT.
Thanks for sharing SF. When you want a desired outcome, look at the areas in the public and private sector and see how they go about getting exactly what they they want and need, with incredible amounts of oversight and chain of command redundancy.
I think of the most important corporation’s on the planet and the military and the prison industrial complex, when it comes to people adhering to a strict code and discipline and very little room for non compliance.
Gabriel Roth.
:Do you have the discipline to be a free spirit ”
https://youtu.be/rLBXmM8FyMs
@4:50 – Congressman Burton: “I want you to give me a yes or no. Can you tell, me, can you say, right now, just flat out.. can you tell me right now, without any doubt whatsoever, that the mercury in vaccines does not cause neurological problems or autism?”
CDC’s Dr. Karen Midthun: “We can neither accept nor reject a causal relationship.”
Congressman Burton: “So what you’re saying is you cannot tell me that, you cannot say categorically, can you?”
CDC’s Midthun: “We don’t know one way or the other.”
(our brains are being wired for addictive behavior with negative ramifications.)squared
“American values, anyone?”
Seems like times change, Bushy. Thanks for reminding me of those days, heck we used to stick our rifles in the coatroom.
Aaaaand they effed up and failed to charge him within 48 hours. So they let him go.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Man-arrested-in-disappearance-of-13-year-old-in-14959550.php
Perhaps you didn’t notice that this article has an update saying that, an entire new article was posted about that, and that exact link was posted already?
He was released with no charges. He has never been rearrested or charged…..https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/san-fran-da-dismisses-18-felonies-against-man-caught-sex-trafficking-13-year-old-girl/
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