Local Health Care Professionals Recommend No Cannabis Use for Pregnant and Breastfeeding Moms
This is a press release from the Humboldt County Department of Health & Human Services:
Perinatal Substance Use Disorder Project workgroup participants from left: Patty Torres, Jessica Osborne-Stafsnes, Michele Stephens, Mary Ann Hansen, Laura Mojica and Emily Adams.
Research shows that cannabis use during pregnancy can increase the risk of low birth weight and affect a baby’s brain development officials from a workgroup of the local Perinatal Substance Use Disorder Project told the Humboldt County Board of Supervisors during a presentation Tuesday.
The group, made up of staff from First 5 Humboldt, North Coast Health Improvement and Information Network, St. Joseph Hospital, Humboldt County Department of Health & Human Services (DHHS), Humboldt State University and the California Center for Rural Policy, started meeting in 2016 to discuss the high rates of perinatal substance use in the county.
DHHS Public Health Director Michele Stephens said the topic of cannabis is not new. “With the legalization of cannabis for adult use, the conversation about recommendations for the use of cannabis while pregnant or breastfeeding has been emphasized statewide. Without research-based messaging, women are relying on their peers and CBD or cannabis businesses for information.”
Laura Mojica, a nurse and lactation consultant at St. Joseph Hospital and member of the workgroup, said, “Parents deserve to receive current data about the risks of using cannabis while breastfeeding,” acknowledging the often mixed messages around cannabis use during pregnancy.
During the Board’s meeting, the group presented its findings as well as a resolution stressing the importance of women who are pregnant, contemplating pregnancy or breastfeeding to avoid using cannabis.
“Educating our local health care providers to ensure that they have up-to-date information about these risks is an essential piece to answering the questions parents may have about cannabis use while pregnant or breastfeeding,” Mojica said.
Stephens said there is no research that shows what amount is safe, adding that until more information available, it is important to avoid it in any form.
For more information, call the Maternal Child and Adolescent Health Division at 707-441-5573.
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this is a ” duh ” story — of course marihuana is POISON !! — i don’t need a health care professional to tell me that ..
That’s not at all what they are saying though.
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/can-marijuana-use-during-pregnancy-harm-baby
Here is a synopsis of what studies there are with hyper links to various ones. Do your own review.v
I worked from 1986-2000 with an OBGYN who focused his practice on poor women (on AFDC and Medi-Cal). All his patients signed a contract not to drink and take drugs during the pregnancy. At that time, each patient gave a urine specimen for point of care drug testing, on each visit. He accepted almost all patients, and, he was overrun with women who used marijuana and methamphetamine. Almost every woman on marijuana also had other drugs in her system, and nearly 70% of this physician’s patients had drug dependency. No other doctor would take these patients at all…
Co-ocurring pregnancy and drug use is a huge problem, but I would advise women who take drugs or who who drink alcohol, to assess their lifestyle, get counseling, go to rehab, and to attempt to moderate their self-destructive behavior on every level. Smoking tobacco is self-destructive too, and if you are actively trying to mess up your own life with drugs and alcohol, you should probably not have a baby.
There are many ways to kill yourself, but please don’t endanger your baby. When you are pregnant, you can make changes that will improve your own life, and your child’s.
Drugs and alcohol are coping mechanisms for dealing with adversity that human beings are tasked with. It’s a tough call, but the nanny state could see forced abortions as an extension of the human made climate change issue and wth enough of these millenials believing that they need to be a part of the solution, we very well could see forcing less desirable people not to be authorized to have babies ….as a
contentious an issue as banning free speech and the desire to ban guns.
If you want to be permitted to grow a baby, you will be subject to a plethora of government agencies and you will have to have an assurance bond that you can pay for your fees and taxes for the privilege to cultivate children.
🕯🌳Are you saying that you have to be privileged to have a child?
Just permitted.
Just like any other regulated business these days.
If you look at what the commerce clause has been used to enforce the federal government’s authority, you can get an idea, where that train of think could lead.
After all, it was a can of beans that crossed state lines that allowed the Feds to prosecute civil rights violations over the states jurisdiction.
Makes you think how far people can go to prevent the earth from reaching the population tipping point.
Think of the movie children of men, where no one is fertile.
Perhaps child rearing is what keeps this country from an all out civil war.
Makes you wonder.
🕯🌳So your also saying we have an Authoritian government?
I say everything and nothing.
The tao is formless and shapeless, and can be permitted…
But there’s no guarantee you won’t have your garden chipped.
Or your children removed, and you slapped with multiple abatements because the government needs to be fed…
🕯🌳Jonathan Swift.
We gotta fall in love with the word “NO”!
https://www.fastcompany.com/90394048/uh-oh-silicon-valley-is-building-a-chinese-style-social-credit-system
Whatchu think Wiilie?
Clearly, the government can’t afford to make things illegal. No one can force anyone to act responsibly.
The women above have roles in public healthcare, but advice is all they can dispense. We can complain about the size of their bodies, but they may not be able to face the issues in their lives, the stresses of existence, that cause them to overeat chronically.
Similarly, you may feel that your personal cannabis use is justifiable, or beneficial, or unavoidable. Is it unreasonable for public healthcare persons to advise you to cut back or quit during pregnancy?
Vaccines are another discussion. I advise you to be safe, take care of yourself during pregnancy, and adjust your habits and lifestyle during this time. Protecting the health and safety of your children should be instinctive, it should feel important. This is healthy and natural, while taking drugs during pregnancy clearly is not indicated.
It’s your day, do what you want with it, but please don’t endanger others or your children.
🕯🌳We’ve owned the Chinese since 1812,on an off. They already own us an have since World War 1.
Were headed that way for sure. Please say your smart enough to connect the dots to where this country is headed.
Tavistock,
“and you will have to have an assurance bond”
Funny how a Bond is on us, and NOT the purveyors of nonsense.
A person to fill a term of office is not permitted to assume the duties of the office until he files a bond and oath of office, which must be done before the commencement of the term, or the office shall be deemed vacant. People v. Quimby, 152 Colo. 231, 381 P.2d 275 (1963).
Face it. ALL OF THE OFFICES ARE VACANT.
🕯🌳Agreed.
It sure ‘can’. Anything ‘can’.
Or, maybe it ‘potentially’ safeguards the child from the other things that ‘can’ and those things that literally do.
But, yeh, let’s not talk about the ‘literally do’s’.
ok maybe they cant run a mile but each and everyone of them could kick your ass with one hand tied behind their back.
Breat milk has cannabanoids in it.. Dont thinkam a little tokenhere and there hurts anyone. I agree. These ladies are all probably wonderful people but clearly not the most phyaically fit grounp.
Stoned much?
I actually do not smoke weed although i did for a number of years.. But it is true there are cannabanoids in breastmilk.
VACCINES ARE SAFE FOR PREGNANT WOMEN THOUGH?
Some vaccines are safe and some aren’t. https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/pregnancy-week-by-week/expert-answers/vaccines-during-pregnancy/faq-20057799 It is always a bit scary to see the depth to which vaccinating as a medical procedure is not understood. If there is certainty that exposure to a disease can not occur, then not vaccinating is of course safest. But the risk of complications from any part of the current vaccines’ ingredients is a lot less than that the risk of complications from the disease themselves.
” But the risk of complications from any part of the current vaccines’ ingredients is a lot less than that the risk of complications from the disease themselves.”
~must be older parents, or genetics pumping out 1 in 25 w/autism, huh? <<<that's what the "”in crowd” says.
Could be. Could be an ever more inclusive definition of autism. “experts say the bulk of the increase stems from a growing awareness of autism and changes to the condition’s diagnostic criteria. … Children born prematurely also are at increased risk of autism, and more premature infants survive now than ever before. … As diagnoses of autism have risen, those of intellectual disability have decreased.”
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-real-reasons-autism-rates-are-up-in-the-u-s/ ” This stable statistic suggests that the uptick in autism stems in part from the reshuffling of children among these diagnostic groups.” https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/autisms-rise-tracks-with-drop-in-other-childhood-disorders/
Every time the DISM is rewritten, autism becomes more inclusive and other diagnoses got switched over to it. For the faddy nature of the DISM, https://www.cbsnews.com/news/national-institute-of-mental-health-no-longer-will-use-dsm-diagnoses-in-studies/ It controls medical insurance payment to mental health workers and that field has spent much effort expanding diagnoses to fit in one of those categories so that they get paid. So when such diagnoses are tabulated, it looks like they have increased when in reality the names of problems have been changed to allow billing. Sounds silly but that’s exactly what goes on.
Theres a bigger need at stake; the need to fear and distrust something.
These commentors are addicts, too. Paranoia is their drug of choice.
One day it will be just as professionally recognizable as autism or drug addiction.
Paranoia,
“One day it will be just as professionally recognizable as autism or drug addiction.” Yes indeed, science harnessed with academia will make your forecast come true.
I’m alive today, thankfully because somebody in my lineage was paranoid. Science and the most recent crop of PHDs admit that paranoia is a survival instinct. They don’t fully understand paranoia so they don’t accept the potential benefits of the human emotion.
I should say “extreme” paranoia.
Using logic with skepticism and rationale may save a life, or do good in a life.
Living with an absolute distrust and not using rationale or logic while giving in to “extreme” paranoia is likely disastrous.
Like a Pizzagate shooter, El Paso shoot er or Cesar Soyak type of paranoia.
Guest,
Yep, when the “(E)xperts” re-define our language, it’s hard to make out what in the hell their Babble-On means. T.H.E.Y. may as well as be talkin Mandarin.
They are not giving advice on cardiovascular fitness or obesity.
🕯🌳Show us the research stats. These women are a group thinking that there doing something good in a infested area but all there doing is making it more confusing. My daughter was breast fed and my wife was recommended to smoke pot for medical reasons. She graduated high school, with high Mark’s in culinary arts,speaks three languages and is very artistic. It’s up to the surrounding conditions and up bring and genetics that tells the outcome.
I’m not pro pot, but when my wife was pregnant we went through the same lecture. And I asked what are the actual side effects and studies to prove it. The nurse responded that they don’t actually have any reliable data because they don’t have any reliable studies where the mother was only smoking pot and not consuming other drugs as well. Humboldt would be a good spot to do such a study. But unless they’ve done one very recently someone is mixed up. Same hospital, just different answer when I actually questioned them. Not that I’m condoning it just saying.
My best friend smoked pot and took acid all through her pregnancy ( I didn’t think it was the best thing), and her son ended up as a Rhodes Scholar at Harvard! True story.
Dr Ira Chaznoff. Check out his information he’s been studying drug use and moms for years and it’s not just alcohol it’s any substance when you’re trying to build young brain cells
~i have four offspring, smoked the herb whenever i wanted through pregnancies – my doctor didn’t discourage it.
~thank you, Willie, and For sure.
i would never breastfeed my children , its against my religion , plus , i’m a man ..
We know for a fact on the pregnancy/cannabis right/wrong, to err on the side of the mother’s, mother, mother, mother practices are best. Thousands of generations of women have balanced this question to the betterment of mankind.
Whether or not professionals today advise correctly, or attempt to, is up for debate. Avoiding risk is a mother’s gift to her child. Risk of what, exactly, is the current unknown. There is some cultural criteria in the debate.
Science continues to come-up short on anecdotal acceptance. Science can’t define nor explain the effects of cannabis. We still have a great distance to advance on this time-travel where science catches up to the ancient knowledge of cannabis efficacy.
That’s because anecdotes are not evidence. Heck they are not even an answer to a useful question. They are personal interpretations. I have been been driven 108 mph in a car on a gravel road because someone wanted to see how fast their new car could go. They pulled out of a skid safely and, after scaring themselves,slowed down. No one was hurt. Therefore by anecdotal “evidence” driving 108 mph on a gravel road is safe. Really? The only thing that was proven was not everyone in a car where an idiot made a stupid choice to speed dies- that is what “anecdotes prove” if you can believe the teller anyway.
Anecdotes are evidence. Science segregated itself from all the chaos and confusion where everyone gets to decide based upon memories. The race of humans is a long, long chain of genetic adaptations based on survival. Cannabis is and probably has always been a dramatic component of civilization.
Riding in an idiots hot rod ain’t anecdotal, it’s a death wish.
” Science segregated itself from all the chaos and confusion where everyone gets to decide based upon memories. ”
Aggressive incompetence.
🕯🌳Bravo. 👍🏽🥀
Way to show the lack of mental fitness that could not make a valid correlation between drinking water and quenching thirst if their life depended on it.
That’s not what aware alternative women’s health providers recommend actually. There was a study conducted on this matter in Jamaica and the funding was pulled because the outcome of moderate cannabis consumption was actually beneficial, not harmful. What is this announcement based on exactly? The cdc, the fda, the ama recommendations? Where’s the research I thought it was illegal? Sheesh, To each their own. It wasn’t long ago that they were selling us on the notion that cannabis was harmful to everyone and let’s not forget It’s still schedule 1 federally folks. Also go to a wic office (women infants and children) and they claim fluoride is good for infants and inorganic milk has value, all while Harvard has found (in over a hundred studies) a link between fluoride use and decreased IQs, and roundup is still on crops used to feed the cows producing this wic milk. Point is these government agencies have lost all credibility in my book.
🕯🌳Another Bravo. 🤯👍🏽
I’ll 2nd that BRAVO!
Over a quarter of us literally stopped following the NIH over 10-20 years ago when they proudly declared in fluffy wordage that they will no longer publish any studies whatsoever of any company/product/? that they are deadset on bashing for their political & financial gains.
Hear, here.
Dr. Ira Chaznoff has somewhere around over a hundred thousand women that he studied through any type of substance used in pregnancy not just cannabis, not just alcohol, not just tobacco, and he types of substances that can influence the development of an embryo brain. He has a lot of research on it.
tell that one to sam! proudly puffed an ounce or two a day while carrying.
You smoked two pounds a month? That is astounding. I’ve known a couple of folks who smoked nearly constantly and they might, might have come close but I don’t think so.
Ah, yes. The “Oh, Yeah? Well, you’re fat” argument. Checkmate, chunkstyle!
Everything in moderation. Use common sense. Absolutism is ridiculous and unreasonable!
“Everything in moderation. Use common sense. ”
Exactly!
💯❗❗❗
🕯🌳It was either pot or pills for my wife and this was 23yrs ago and doctor recommended herb over the prescription.
Should probably give up Fluoride and the flue shot while pregnant. Pots the least of if your worries.
Any idea what all the micro plastic in the environment is doing to our babies? One could only guess….
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/from-fish-to-humans-a-microplastic-invasion-may-be-taking-a-toll/
https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/data.html
“..all the micro plastic in the environment …”
On a dark, still night, take your brightest flashlight outside, and shine it upwards. Out in an open area.
🕯🌳There’s a town 600 miles from any industry type of whatever and doctors came and did studies on the people. This town fairly well is self sustaining. The results of the tests were the adults were fairly well healthy but the children were experiencing high levels of Mercury, lead and other industrial byproducts that they are getting from eating fish they catch in the local waters.
~strong chance all of us have dementia by 2025. The Great Aluminum Pandemic.
Then, we won’t even remember our own comments :-((
Mary Jane bioaccumulates . She loves heavy metals ,terrestrial and non terrestrial radiation .
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/can-hemp-clean-up-the-earth-629589/
“In 2001, a team of German researchers confirmed the Chernobyl results by showing that hemp was able to extract lead, cadmium and nickel from a plot of land contaminated with sewage sludge.
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https://cannabisindustryjournal.com/feature_article/heavy-metals-testing-methods-strategies-sampling/
“For example, during the course of testing, we have seen lead levels exceed the BCC’s allowable limit of 0.5 ppm in resin from plastic vape cartridges. An investigation determined that the plastic used to make the vape cartridge was the source of the excessive lead levels. Even if a concentrate passes the limits at the time of sampling, the concern is that over time, the lead leached from the plastic into the resin, increasing the concentration of heavy metals to unsafe levels.”
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Toxins that can affect brain development are not ones that we all choose to ingest by choice. Any types of environmental or ingested exposures can cause harm to a young developing embryo before it is even truly a fetus. We know the most crucial time for development is the first 20 days of pregnancy. How many folks when you’re first getting pregnant truly plan that pregnancy to know a month ahead and when you’re first pregnant in that 20 window? I would venture to say safely say that not many do know when they’re pregnant in that 20-day window and that’s when much of the damages or harmful substances influence the corpus callosum in the brain. Once that is initiated it cannot be reversed. So you have people that maybe have a little more poor judgment maybe not the best self-regulation blow out easier over stuff, anger issues those types of things not really ADHD or other problems but just a little wonkiness and that comes in those first 20 days that many people don’t even know is happening. It’s science it’s not rocket science, not meaning to be harsh with the information but it’s a real true fact and if more women really plan their pregnancies stayed clean a couple months before they’re have their child and then maybe up to a month after conception we might have less of these anger issues in society. OK everybody chop my head off!
I’d like to see this ‘study’ and be able to review the findings myself -because as we know- there is actually a lack of comprehensive (or competently administered) studies ever done- let alone done recently and informed with current science and comparable product and subjects… just saying, show us the goods because as suggested, it’s not very reliable info unless it comes with a valid source that can be scrutinized.
Dr Ira Chaznoff just saying…
His book is called “the mystery of risk”
We humans do lots of things to protect ourselves from or minimize risks. Wear sunscreen. Eat good food. Get colonoscopies. Wear a seatbelt . Children wear bicycle helmets. People wear motorcycle helmets. Wear your safety goggles when using a hammer or saw, or weed wacker. Go on diets to lose weight. Avoid playing in the freeway. Decrease stressors give yourself time for self-care. If something is a risk it’s not always a wise choice to do it. The…” yeah but” is the common comment or response associated with a poo pooed risk. More generally one can avoid the risk and they are much better in the long run no matter the scenario. And what a more important thing in anyone’s life then becoming a parent… and that’s already a risky business in itself do we need to add more to it?
~you lost me at sunscreen.
Dr Chaznoff.
Here is title.
And:
Check out the kids in the “ED” schools, located in almost every community, most of whom cannot participate in regular classrooms since they have behavioral disorders caused by in utero exposure to drugs and alcohol; their mother’s poor health habits.
Cannabis does nothing for you, it cures nothing, and cannabis will not save the world.
Cannabis is just one more public health problem, and a very large one which is just beginning to be understood! Thinking that Cannabis is somehow beneficial during pregnancy, especially in a community where common vaccines against wholly preventable diseases are thought to be harmful, shows the local effect of damaged thought processes produced by cannabis use.
The blow-back against pot grows daily. Protect your children early: education and abstinence will save more children than indiscriminate drug use during gestation.
“Cannabis does nothing for you, it cures nothing, and cannabis will not save the world.”
^^^That is Not what Jack Herer said, māngë. (homie substitute)
~try and stay within the scope of the conversation, Billy.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/08/29/755423290/surgeon-general-sounds-alarm-on-risk-of-marijuana-addiction-and-harm
CH: Trying to control everything? Again? Really?
~i speak from Carlotta, the heart of the redwoods.
How about you?
Medical kidnapping is a worse symptom with guaranteed devastation. Is that what you back instead of proper diet, herbs, exercise, filtered water and air and the rest of the wholesome treatments that a parent has the right to use? https://www.oregonlive.com/health/2019/08/wilsonville-mom-loses-bid-to-treat-13-year-olds-cancer-with-cbd-not-surgery.html
(oregonlive is one of my least favorite sites to read, but even they accidentally covered the main jist of what’s really happening).