‘Legal Cannabis Businesses…Currently at a Huge Disadvantage’, Says Lawmaker With Bill to Lower Marijuana Taxes in Sac Bee
Marijuana flower with rain drops. [Photo by Kym Kemp]
The article highlights a number of bills before the legislature to lower taxes, give tax deductions, and the ability to bank to the newly legal industry.
The article points out,
Unfriendly banks, high taxes and black-market competitors are some of the obstacles that licensed cannabis companies say hold them back as they try to cultivate a new industry in California.
Some California lawmakers want to give them a hand, and they’re considering a set of bills that would in ways great and small fine tune the law governing recreational marijuana
The author goes on to discuss some of the bills currently being brought up by California lawmakers. Senate Bill 51, for instance, would provide some relief to those businesses struggling to pay taxes, rent, etc. when they aren’t allowed to use banks (banks are federally insured so most won’t do business with the cannabis industry.) If it passes, among other provisions, banks and credit unions could issue special checks that cannabusinesses could only use to pay other businesses physically located in California.
Another bill, AB 286 would give a temporary reduction (three years) in taxes to legal farmers–this would include totally removing the bud cultivation tax. According to the article, Assemblyman Tom Lackey, R-Palmdale, one of the co-sponsors explained, “The legal cannabis businesses are currently at a huge disadvantage [to the black market].”
The article also gives an excellent quick overview of other cannabis related bills coming up. Read it here.
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“California lawmakers in 2019.”
~CA INC’s Oathless, Bondless, not in the republic, despots.
Same story, different page.
“The whole commerce between master and slave is a perpetual exercise of the most boisterous passions, the most unrelenting despotism on one part, and the degrading submissions on the other. Our children see this, and learn to imitate it.” Jefferson
The idea that black market is impacting legal market is just so full of shit I can’t even stand it.
No one and I mean no one is going to hang out waiting for their boy on a bike to come by when they can go down to the corner market and just buy something at their own convenience.
The black market is now religated to four old hippies in stained tyedye t-shirts who don’t like to leave home. And that’s not enough business to keep a market alive.
The only other place the Black market is selling is out of state and the white market isn’t supposed to be doing that.
No, the fucking opposite is true. White market growers are flooding the black market with their crops because the state market isn’t set up properly.
So if our legislators want to be of help, start firing the lazy slacks down at the water board, starting with the water rights division who cannot figure shit from shinola in terms of what’s legal and what isn’t.
The voice of reason well said!
Thats one way of looking at it. Another is, some people don’t want to buy store bought sh!t. I grow as much food as I can to keep my grocery bill down and insure I’m eating clean food, with minimal energy inputs as possible. Pot is no different. Screw a retail store, when I can grow my own or pay a friend for their hard work. Support your local CSA, your local farmer at he farmers markets and support clean and healthy black market grows.
Ya wherez the CSA for patients who cant grow their own???
Patients have been left behind……
Yes but a couple of her points bear repeating: 1) the black market supplies out of state almost entirely. Always has. The CA market is tiny, compared to the country as a whole with many less distributors. Many smokers in CA would never need to buy anything, they have a friend who gives it to them or something along those lines. Cheap as apples. 2) The ‘white’ market is selling all their overproduced product on the black market because that’s the only way to off load the 100s of pounds they are holding. Thus playing both sides of the fence which to me seems very risky indeed. I prefer the old set of rules and risks;)
Plenty of people still buy a $20 nug from a guy on the corner. It may not happen in your neighborhood, but it does in many (especially in cities).
Bruh, the Cali black market for weed is probably the largest on earth regardless of exports. Mawfuckers be blaaaaazzzzzing!
“…never had a weed card”
Just light up a joint outside where the smokers hang at a bowling alley in any Midwest or Southern state you will move a pound in less than an hour, lol. Once you say you’re from Humboldt (they always ask where you are from) and tell em it’s 25 an eighth or 40 a quarter you will have a lifetime buyer and new friends, good times indeed!!
Wrong. Street prices for weed are about 1/2 the cost of “legal” (still not federal) weed…your average college/high school stoner cant afford club weed.
Just what the world needs- more impaired thinking at a cheaper price so those who make money out producing a drug can make more while everyone else pays for cleaning up the messes it makes while California careens down its path of ever further separation from the rest of the country. Yup- it’s all about the limited horizon of pot thinking.
are taking any meds , thats impaired thinking
I can see why you don’t put a name behind your comment, guest. At first I thought you were talking about pharmaceuticals and it made sense, but then you made it clear…you know nothing about the benefits of herb. Maybe check last nights dui arrests before you tell us more of your whack theories..
There are things of importance to defend like country, truth, responsibility, kindness, family, etc. Things that can make an extreme difference in the quality of life a person has. And even the nature of those things are not beyond debate by reasoning human beings.
Then there is marijuana. Apparently it is like gang membership in that it has little intrinsic value but is maintained by demanding automatic defense to the death as if it is meaningful. As if even the smallest questioning is such a threat to its existence. Hostility to anything that threatens it must be extreme. No one ever says they can take or leave it. No one ever says it is good for this but bad for that. No criticism can be tolerated. That should be what scares the users, not fear of criticism, but it doesn’t. Any criticism, no matter how obviously truthful, gets a far more hostile reaction than is reasonable.
Life is not a disease to be cured with a drug- herb or not. If is your belief that it does cure life’s problems, then you have a problem with life. Not with those who don’t like your beliefs as damaging to life. Marijuana, even if it didn’t cause the active harm to society that it does, takes altogether way too much time and resources away from what life can be to be treated like some sort of miracle cure of no disease. Yes it makes its users more stupid. And too stupid to notice they are more stupid. It adjusts the awareness of stupid, which relieves the physical side effects of the stress of realising it. Thus it encourages the continuation of stupid be preventing thinking about how not to be stupid. Heaven knows there is more than enough natural stupid in the world without encouraging it.
I use it for my back injury. My Neurothopy is constant and painful at times. The drs were trying to shove opioids down my throat for a pain that will be with me lifelong. I preferred a more natural way to control the pain. Drs are getting people hooked on pain pills when there are other ways to manage it. Family’s are being torn apart, people turn to heroin when they are cut off, leads to homelessness and overdoses. I’ll pass, the dutchie to the left hand side. It’s nice to be able to make my medicine legally and keep things affordable.
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Joe dirt been hacked by a imposter I guess there’s no rules on identity theft on the redheaded Blackbelt As Long as You Follow the other guidelines he has good dirt but he’s an imposter I tell you unless I wrote this in my sleep and I’ve been known to do my best work while I’m sleeping which is quite possible some people say that claiming some one’s art could be the highest form of flattery but I’m more into medical marijuana for all gets rid of all the markets both black and white marijuana the social medicine peace and prosperity sharing food and sacrament and socializing it was never about the money marijuana has always been about socializing to overcome oppression not paying taxes one of the heroes that carried the torch dr. Tod Hiro Mikuriya Jack Herer and I believe Jorge Cervantes also holds that point of view and I haven’t heard him chime in on the comment section in a while hope he is doing well seems that the Trump Administration and local policies is taking its toll a lot of people who care about caring
But is it pronounced Joe (deer – tay)?
Do not let her or him use your phone while you sleep.
Sure, it is a pain to enter a code each time you use it but it prevents others access to your phone and accounts.
May the black market (original real market ) crumble the new snitch market. Long live outlaw mountain farmers!!!!!!!
God is quite clear about walking in the ordinance of the heathen and renounces those who do.
Leviticus 18: 3-4 -Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth (BIBLE).
“To live outside the Law, you must be honest.” ~Bob Dylan
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Here here!!!!! God bless the Outlaw Party.
Hey guest, if you feel that way about weed you must really hate alcohol and the misery that it can bring and the millions of dollars wasted because of all the accidents and deaths and crimes and broken lives. Tell me how you feel about booze. My joint does not compare.
I do hate alcohol’s damage to society. But one thing that is worse about marijuana is that it lets people think they are fine when they aren’t. And unlike alcohol which takes constant reapplication to cause the desired effect, marijuana, though it is generally less dramatic, creates a longer lasting impairment. Rarely will an alcoholic not notice their impairment while a routine pot user has to abstain for at least a month to recognize they weren’t sober at the time they would swear they were.
it seems you have never used cannabis and aren’t even using any research data, therefore you are just using ignorance and hate.
No. I’m using local observation. As in the ability to make sense one time but not another. Usually on a sliding scale of ineptitude depending on use.
“It is a fact that no paternal government, whether ancient or modern, ever shrank from regimenting its subjects’ minds, beliefs, and opinions. If one abolishes man’s freedom to determine his own consumption, one takes all freedoms away. The naïve advocates of government interference with consumption delude themselves when they neglect what they disdainfully call the philosophical aspect of the problem. They unwittingly support the case of censorship, inquisition, religious intolerance, and the persecution of dissenters.” -Misses
Do you have any studies that show this?
Until studies come out that are definitive, this a start https://www.ncsm.nl/english/what-is-medicinal-cannabis/marijuana-stay-bloodstream
https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publications/abstract.aspx?ID=234583
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4827335/
What was in my post was what I observed from the few people I knew who used regularly then stopped and what those people told me. If you want a bunch of anecdotal stories, just doing a search will give pages of them. But for popularly written yet unbiased interpretations of empirical studies, you’ll need to do some digging. It’s not worth my time and effort to attempt proving what will be instantly rejected with great hostility.
Your comprehension of the articles and your theoretical application is not correct. The euphoric effect of THC only last for a few hours. To state someone is still high or feels the effect has no collaboration with being able to detect cannabinoids. (i.e., a hair sample which will show usage of drugs during a lifetime which is used to detect LSD showing a positive result does not mean the judged is still frying it just means they used the drug.)
Plus, if I were to apply your theory I would still be frying from my mushroom and LSD intake. I wish, had a blast, world might be a better place at least it would be in my mind 😁
Your interest may be in euphoria but it’s the not the only effect. Not even close to the most damaging effect. It’s that pot use seems to paralyze the function of the brain that reacts to an incompete thought by creating a tension to force further consideration of its own ideas. Simply put, pot prevents connecting a series. One dot and done no matter how obviously incomplete.
Where the hell are you getting this? Was Anslinger you’re grandpa?
Have you ever been around alcohol?
You are so full of it. You know nothing of alcohol dependency.
Wrong. Majority of dui involved accidents happen because people think they are “fine”. I’m just buzzed it’s alright. However this slows down their reaction and reflexes and that extra few seconds is all is needed to cause an accident. Rarely do people realize how drunk they truly are. That’s why they tell you on the label “consuming alcoholic drinks impairs your judgment”. The more times someone drinks and drives safely the more dangerous they become because they think they are fine. Done it a million times. Too bad a million and one becomes catastrophic.
LEts get Garrett some JUSTICE!
~without Justice, there’s just us. Enough of us are striving for the same . . . pulling together – i can feel it, taste it, hear it. “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for”.
All 50 States have their Jural Assemblies up and running. We need to get involved in this -including me.
FROM DE FACTO
TO DE JURE
HANDBOOK FOR THE RESTORATION
OF THE PEACEFUL
SOVEREIGN STATES OF AMERICA!
http://1stmichiganassembly.info/index.php/handbook
New legal market mega grows=old black market mega grows. New black market (legal mega grows backdooring half their product to the black market) vs. old black market (mom and pops doing what they’ve always done)
“Black market” – is brokering debt instruments -counterfeit currencies and “derivatives,” that cause unnecessary suffering. It has been so insurmountable that it has served to quash business and growth.
The County – day in, day out.
The taxes are herendous for sure… $9 an ounce for growers? That is absurd. That is close to what a trimmer who works six to eight hours to complete a pound makes.. is the gov. going to trim the weed for that? Not to mention twice the heafty bill at harvest…
But also, I am tired of the “legal market” blaming the BM for thier problems.. the LM over grew themselves in a limited market, now they want to point fingers at thier neighbors. The LM is a wash at this point. But to blame the BM, shifts the blame from the cannabis control boards poor decisions. It is not only the BM to blame, but also massive overages for a limited market, high testing fees, herendous packaging requirements, massive amounts erroneous of red tape, and laws designed to take out all the growers here in the north and transfer the control to mondo farms in the south.. The LM has basically made it nearly impossible for the small farmers here in the North to comply… This is for surely by design.. The small farmers were never offered a seat at the table… now.. the BM is more profitable then the LM.. but guess what.. the LM can’t play… oh well…
And that comment clearly describes where we are. The LM is hopelessly burdened by lawmakers and excess taxation. The LM could have been handled better.
Thankfully, we still have a thriving Honest Market. People’s needs are being served in spite of legal dis-honesty.
We should continue to push the LM over the edge, down to it’s doom.
I don’t think it is the legal market as in the growers blaming anyone. It is the government legal market tax collectors who are blaming the black market. from there projections all that black market money is suposed to be there for taxing.
Exactly!
I noticed that when 64 passed, people who had been doing good honest business with me, became antagonistic because I didn’t become legal. They seemed to become holy and I became a leper. I was indeed looked down upon.
The new breed, the state’s partners in prohibition, lined-up to get their licenses in order to become State Tax Collectors. Everybody calls them retailers, labs, distributors, delivery. Truth is they are dummies. They aren’t building a new industry, they are thieves.
~yep.
Sure- let’s let off the taxes on those permitted mega-grows who are dumping their product on the traditional underground market ( so-called “black market”)! I suspect there is more to this than trying to protect small permitted grows…probably using those smaller scenes as cover to drop taxes for their massive corporate mega-grow friends. Hey- that’s how business goes! When y’all voted for “legalization” so you could be “safe” and “free” you invited the monster into the room. Now the monster doesn’t want to pay all the taxes- who could have guessed?!! Enjoy your “legalization” you sell-outs and traitors to the people.
Greed is the disadvantage. The only ones making any money are the distributors who take 30% while not moving product and have to cater to them to get product on the shelf. Worse are the dispensaries who are marking up product 100%-150% wholesale which means something $25 or $30 at the shelf actually cost $12.50. By the time it gets sold the product is old and stale. So prices for consumers went way up to what they were 15 years ago on the street and quality went down. I refuse to support buying at the legal store, when prices are jacked up due to greed, it’s all the same meh commercial strains, and quality sucks. Yeah the state along with the County needs to get their sticky fingers outof the market but the market also needs to be more competitive and move product faster at lower cost cause only the rich are buying because of short sighted greed. Ford model, produce a quality product and service at an affordable price workers can afford and don’t worry about profit cause it will be there.
The OG dirt is hacked I will no longer be writing underneath the pseudonym Joe Dirt you should think about finding your own title to right under maybe I’ve been writing under the redheaded Blackbelt comment section for long enough OG Dirt out for a while have fun
~well, i’m disappointed.
And i have to say i didn’t notice until you are pointing it out. I don’t pay much attention to the, if i may say so -dangerous- & silly waste-of-time games being played (the i.d’s differences). The error is to believe we have time. We do not. We’re in this world and of this time . . . like it or not.
Joe Dirt
Joe dirt
Guest
Guest (?)
guest
I’m glad you mentioned this out loud because off and on there’s been several different frequent posters that haven’t sounded like themselves this past few months.
One was a THC post, one an Erik post, … I should have jotted all of them down, I’m drawing a blank on the rest.
Did you let Kym know?
There’s always been at least 2 different ‘guest”s. (which is a pisser, but it is what it is I guess).
OG Dirt ok I see that to Joe Dirt little Joe dirt well they tried to divide and conquer Me well I guess I’ll just keep monitoring myself and maybe my dual personality will go away
I am guessing Guest and guests we’re all the same now I’m confused well the real guest stand up are set down I was thinking about usurping the comment section throwing a coup on everybody’s name but I guess I’ll just keep an eye out
Boycott dispensarys!!! Boycott government extortion and fraud! !!! Boycott the trampling of our constitution and Bill of rights! !!!! Boycott the stealing of our riparian water rights
~we don’t have to fight to be free . . . just stop serving.
Never depend upon institutions or government to solve any problem. All social movements are founded by, guided by, motivated and seen through by the passion of individuals. ~ Margaret Mead
When a government falls into idolatry, it collects information from you because it must know where everyone and everything is, in order to tax or seize it. The Age of Deception must end.
Fraud is theft, stealing from you the truth, it is deception, and it is wrong.
Ephesians 6:11-12, “Put on the whole Armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
…Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints.”
– Ephesians 6:10-18
Timing is everything I was trained in the art of building Spiritual armor and we are making tools to get us through these challenging times that we are moving in
~if the public no longer believes in and obeys the propaganda, the control matrix loses their authority and power. This is happening now, and while the journey might be harrowing, there simply is no return to slavery.
The legal market is made up of former mega growers who cashed out enough to go legal and kids were born with trust funds. Fuck them.
As soon as it became clear that the law would not cap the size of farms to eliminate massive operations, legal grows became the enemy.
lol, a bunch of non growers making comments, hillarious! They all raced to get their cultivation license so they could compete with the rest of the growers growing OG or Gelato or whatever everyone else is growing. Now that the mega farms outdoor OG has to compete with indoor you wonder why you failed, it’s the taxes, lol. It is not the tax burden it is the lack of understanding business and the market not taxes! As long as my competition fails to understand the true issue the more I will succeed. Keep whining I do not mind making a higher margin because most mega grows have a shitty business model.
Don’t worry, the shift to indoor is being made as fast as it can. Soon enough, those prices will fall and the competition will only get stronger.
I got a better perspective. We growers need to be able to manufacture concentrates in our hills. However, the board of supervisors (cause of the crappy pot growing relatives) want us to come out of the hills and use manufacturing (more crappy relatives who own buildings and suck at manufacturing cannabis products) in the city so they can line relatives and friends pockets. One thing indoor cannot do is grow acres of amazing cannabis that can be manufactured into concentrates. We Humboldt growers need to change to where the market is going, wakey wakey!
Cheers, to Humboldt Cure and Humboldt Terp for dominating the Emerald Cup 2018 and winning two concentrate categories. Repeal the federal law, remove the shackles of manufacturing and quit telling us Humbolt growers we need to come down from the hill. The hill is our home.
Exactly, our homes, not industrial neighborhoods. I couldn’t be more against your comment.
Industrial neighborhood?? To make concentrates from water. Women do not need an industrial neighborhood to use a hair staightner. Everyone makes coffee and does not need an industrial neighborhood to make a cup. So I need a industrial neighborhood to do the same because it’s cannabis? Explain your unknowlegeable logic please.
That a ridiculous idea. Concentrates can be made much more efficiently, safely and cleanly in an industrial setting. NOT in the hills. We should be known as an area with top notch OUTDOOR genetics, grown small scale (by that I mean much larger scale than we are now, but small scale for an industry). That’s the only angle we have. The ‘hills’ are good for one thing: illegal enterprise. If you dont realize that you dont have much business smarts.
I disagree anyone can genetic. Only a few can make fresh solvent free concentrates, that is our bread and butter. Once you take the product away from the grower who cares you degrade the final product. Making laws to move us just allows politicians to abuse tax dollars away from rural infrastructure projects. I say no! Fix our roads, build up rural infrastructure and support our way of life that is what sells! Most of the tax money in Humboldt will be from cannabis.
The largest employer outside of cannabis is education and government (i.e., city business) and that model has broken this land and caused serious decay. Support local growers in the hill and spend the tax dollars where it should be spent on improving hill infastructure, rural health and education after all it is tax dollars raped from us growers.
Legallettuce,
~100%
I’m sorry to say this is all bullshit! The retailers are not, will not and have not lowered their prices to the consumer as the wholesale prices fall. I thought for sure herb was cheap in stores and in fact, I was wrong. Same prices being charged, no matter what he wholesale price was. If $149 dollar a pound tax is too much for the grower, they need to figure out how to lower their costs. If I’m not mistaken, most, if not all distributors that I know of are paying the tax anyway. Making millions over the years and paying only a fraction of that to the IRS and now wanting lower taxes? Please cry me a f@cking river. The reason some, if not most the farms are failing is because their product isn’t of quality, they didn’t make the right connections or they just simply suck at what hey do. The county and state gave us a free ride since 1996. If you haven’t paid off your debts by now, then too bad. If you have half a lick of sense, all anybody had to do is look at the legal states before us. Did for some reason, CA growers thought this would be different? LOL!
Very few growers who made “millions” are trying to go legal.
How are these farms that tout being “family owned” and “no investors” paying for permitting and operations?
Pot farmers sure do complain a lot!
The point here, is, grow your own. It’s a damn flower, grows anyfrigginwhere!
Plant your backyard, grow it in pots in a window, build your own greenhouse! It’s legal now!
Hell, go up to Oregon, they are giving it away! Whiny Humboldt growers will be selling fine bud at the Garberville Farmer’s Market for $20/lb soon!
This summer, up to our asses in flower, from I-80 North to Canada, the ocean over to Utah!
Pot should be free anyway! Plant some “public pot” today! Hooray! Free weed!
Solvent free concentrates scare the crap out of corporate mega grows. I can grow acres upon acres and make a product they cannot 😁 Let the indoor have the flower market. Let the corporations buy trim and use solvents to make unnatural cannabis products, stuff is nasty tasting, lol. Go look at any dispensary and see the per gram price of LIVE Rosin and appreciate what real Humboldt growers can accomplish. The buyers know what they want! Live rosin made solvent free in the hills of humboldt. It’s an art that cannot be made without love, pride and care which to me is the Humboldt way (was back in the day and it is coming back!). Support your local grower!
Ok I can agree with live rosin I thought u were promoting butane hash extraction in the hills.
I can only give one positive for butane hash labs out in the hills and that is population control, lol
Bernie and AOC , say free everything so why not free weed? Asking for a friend😂
If you have not yet read it, please all go get a copy of The Emperor Wears No Clothes by Jack Herer so you can have some perspective about the history of cannabis and its many myths.
While youre at it google ‘grow hemp for the war.’
And for a historical timeline check this out….
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/dope/etc/cron.html
For those feeling like growers are complaining, how would you like your industry charged 40% of income while other heavier land use and more intoxicating producing industries pay significantly less? The alcohol industry does not like the legal competition of pot, just like after prohibition.
&That force you to have to produce such a large amount of product just to get by whether you want to or not?
Youre all being duped by the supes. No one talks about how you can sell your permit for $250,000 to another grower with permit and the county brokers it for a fee.
That farmer then gets to expand their farm by the bought permit tier size. Mega farms sponsered by your pocket lining supes who just gave themselves a raise, i guess 90,000 isnt enuf, tho they refused to give county in home care providers a raise, i think they make 11/hr. New supe Madrone was only one to vote against raise if ihss workers didnt get one too.
Cant wait to vote all the others out, they should all be recalled for the destruction they are causing our county, and our DA office which backs up our jail which then has to release folks sooner and on and on.
N’ I’ll say, rave on, on n’ tell me
Tell me that I could never be lonely
Tell me that you love me only
Rave on, rave on, rave on
John Cougar
When the money is out of drugs, the harm will disappear…
~just a reminder;
“If ever again our nation stumbles upon unfunded paper, it shall surely be like death to our body politic. This country will crash.”- George Washington, 1732-1799
“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks…will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered…. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.” . . . “Paper is poverty. It is the ghost of money and not money itself.”– Thomas Jefferson, 1743-1826
“History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance.” – James Madison, 1751-1836
It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.
Henry Ford
Read up you is seeing the real criminals,these sups are as filthy corrupt theiving slimy extorting defrauding as they come.if a regular citizen was to steal as much as they are they’d be retireing in prison blues!!! Counting the hours till the next election I’ve never been so excited, hopeful for an election!!! We the people will prevail against this tyranny!!!!
The local law has the finger in the tax pie, the feds have the finger in the asset forfeiture/threat of incarceration pie. Until this changes (and I believe it should) this elephant in the room will keep shitting on the floor. It was not until the quasi legal promises made by both fingers in the pie were dangled in front of the “industry” that was naive enough to bite, gave the elephant more than enough food to keep on a’ shittin’. Grow your own, don’t tell anyone, ever. Don’t sell, ever. Get high, and quit bitching about what greed did to your business, and my rivers…
Greedy pot farmers, sit in the corner, read a dirty book.
Meanwhile, all farmers complain. That’s what farmers do!
Psychotic people shouldn’t drive cars, man…
~do you have any idea where you are?
Right here, baby!
Going to Arizona. Might bring a big old bag of Humboldt to my people in NM…
Hey billy next time you need your local volunteer fire dept or search and rescue please dont call, its funded by those awful growers who used their money to start community services like schools, radio station, fire depts everywhere, comunity halls/centers, and sustainable land practices. If you hate it then claim it and dont use the things people you hate created!
Please be careful where you shop because a lot of stores here are owned by those evil growers, so lame how many of them were well educated hard working folk back in the day, they started all sorts of businesses for the community. In fact you orobably shouldnt shop anywhere here cuz those evil growers have kept our economy thriving, do you remember any huge issues in 2008 here as compared to the majority of the country???
Watch out, you may get some of those evil grower community value cooties on you if you shop local.
Seriously if youre that down on it move somewherez else. You obviously only know about the jackass 10-15% of growers. If you dont want to see the good here then please move along, there are plenty of others who do.
~ i hereby volunteer you Sarc Inc.
Thanks for stepping forward, up to the proverbial plate, so to speak.
Leaders lead cuz they know where they’re going, and what they want, and how to get it, with the insight for community. You fit this bill.
Congratulations!
~smiles
Until pot is sold everywhere, cowboys will hide in the forest and insist they are a community!
In a community like yours, nothing would exist that doesn’t make money for certain individuals.
Thanks, to your community, for funding the Mateel, Jerold Phelps Hospital, and the Community Park! these sketchy quality and shady operations reflect the real values of your community. Proud now?
Thanks to the fire departments! You guys rule!
The real community is present at the Healy Senior Center, and the Redwood Clinic in Redway. Not in some grower funded business.
The rest of you are “cash cowboys” and you don’t care about any “community”…
Get thee to some actual farmland, and stop deluding yourself! You are no help to Humboldt. You don’t farm, you culture a Petri dish of problems…
Yes, I am not someone who “needs 7 or 8 bong hits to feel normal”… And real competition in Marijuana farming is just what is going to happen, so whine all you want!
The difference between genius and stupidity is, genius has its limits. Einstein
It’s gratifying to be criticized, by a dilettante-pundit of your stature!
Definition of dilettante – a person who cultivates an area of interest, such as the arts, without real commitment or knowledge. Not me.
Pundit – an expert in a particular field. Not me.
Those two words (dilettante and pundit -according to Webster), fit together like military intelligence or jumbo shrimp.
Nice try. No cigar.
Why are you so angry with people you dont even know, Bill?
It’s remarkable, you thinking that you know who, or for that matter what, anybody else knows!
I’m not angry about anything, that’s you who is angry, I bet!
This is all just good fun, isn’t it?
Sub-culture a different Petri dish of problems, please!
~oh how freakin, fruckin, froukin cutsie.
Blackberry Amnesia is stepping-in for, re-presenting Billy C.
Not to hard to figure out to anyone reading these comments on this thread. I Do Not Know Blackberry Billy. read didn’t have to do any stretch in conclusion –past adding one plus one.
Your comments, Blackberry Billy, push some of us to the point of taking the time to rinse, wash, rinse, repeat.
Good fun?
It’s been real. It’s been fun. But not, real fun.
No.
Haha, I love it.
Community? What a joke! They mean their secret club of self-important weed farmers. There is no cohesive community in sohum. There’s old families and a hierarchy of dirtbags, opportunists, and lowlifes that form cliques based on “neighborhoods” they live in and who knows what else. Then there’s the second and third gen children of growers that grew up there. A real quality bunch in general. I once heard these assholes referred to as entrepreneurs. What a joke. I think they meant, hillbillies with no real skills or life experience doing the only thing they know. Sad.
I also like this big mouthed legallettuce guy always blabbing about how great he is. What a tool. I thought he usually spouts off about oregon, but now he’s a local? Some people’s brains are too fried to make any sense to anyone but themselves and their kind. I smoke every day for most of my life, but these stoners are something else.
Cry me a river, ya losers!
~what you think, what you feel, and what you manifest is always a match – every time – no exceptions.
I just made a $1000 donation to my local fire hall construction project, I always donate to KHSU (for the best real news around) every year for 20 years, and I donate to planned parenthood and I am a long time ‘cash cowboy’. It’s easy to generalize! Like, I could generalize you as a Prius driving, office working Arcata guy who spends a lot of time with his computer. Hmmm I wonder if I’m right. Maybe no car.
Boycott dispensary’s !!!! Till they respect our constitutional rights !!!!!
…who gives u your information for your articles?? while the dispensaries are getting what the black market prices were getting 12 years ago…up to $5,000 a pound!!!!
while the mom and pops and even LEGAL growers are sellin for $400 to $700 a pound the last 2 years! the legal beagals made it so that there isnt really a black market locally anymore because it costs a substantial amount to buy all these pricey but ineffective grow supplies and soils and such and such just to get paid what a partime job pays here, its ridiculous! therefore, unless u are one of the handful of millionaires here who spent their entire lives making their money SOLELY on POT and used the money to be legal to grow MORE and buy out the local businesses out from under people to launder their money has been very evedent around this county and is sick!!! let legalization tank itself out and see what happens! the legal growers are ALL gonna need to apply for real jobs real soon!
oh and here are some really good questions…..isnt it illegal to OWN a FEDERAL LIQUOR LICENSES and be a Drug Farmer? dont any of these so called legal growers ever have their PAST finance records checked by the IRS to see how these permits are afforded and where their money came from pre-legalization? Do they get past taxes looked at for tax evasion???are the GROWERS payin ANY of the TRIMMIGRANT taxes that they and THE TRIMMERS are “supposed” to pay this last year???? is there ANY records showing ANY of the TRIMMIGRANTS registering to be LEGAL TRIMMERS as stated in this years laws??? any record of that anywhere!! i know one of the EARLIEST permitted growers and he DOES claim poverty level income, when for MANY years in front of people he knows who saw the piles of money he was getting earning up to $3.5 million a YEAR when pot prices were the highest in the Black Market and not payin any trimmer/worker taxes required !! WHO IS UNDERCUTTING WHO AGAIN????
My trim is selling for 300 a pound. Not sure why you wanna lie about wholesale prices but they are around 1300 to 1450 a unit for my outdoor. I know no one selling a unit for less than 1200 the last two years. So, if you or someone you know is selling below 1200 a unit I think it is time ya’ll find a new career.
General outlaw rule, If you use the word trimmigrant you are obviously not paying taxes nor following federal employment standards. The reason we do not account for funds is because weed is federally illegal. Luckily for us this business is cash based and with casinos around every corner it is simple to get clean money. As far as your drug farmer comment and having a federal liquor license. I can think of no better proffession than a dope grower to be able to understand the power of stimulant dispersing, kudos to that drug farmer!
And, Mr Lettuce, when you constantly use drugs, the receptors in your brain become overproduced, and like cancer cells, the receptors mutate, and become incapable of binding the chemical that you so want to be high on! This is called “tolerance”, and really is a process where you bathe your brain in toxicity while trying to get high. Using concentrates is your incapable-of-getting-high-brain, telling you that you need more! Neuro-chemistry is an incredible balance, and, your brain actually produces all the chemicals you need to feel good!
But you will need to stop using drugs, first…
If you stop using drugs, as Mr Guest suggests, your brain will recover, and your neuro-chemistry and the Cannabinoid receptors, will return to normal. This process of self-repair will take a considerable amount of time, but, give it a month for every year you abused drugs, as a rule of thumb.
Remember, sobriety is it’s own reward! Being clean and sober takes the rest of your life. It’s hard, but worth it! Attend an AA meeting, or NA. Hang in there!
And, thanks for the lesson, above, in how to be a drug dealer! Figured this out for myself, about 45 years ago…
I never said I smoke or drink that is your assumption along with all the other incorrect grower assumptions and hypothesis you have made comment.
I believe this will be around the forth drug related article that I will say you are wrong. Your understanding of cell regeneration is incorrect. You incorrectly hypothesized how neurological receptors function and the list goes on. Google neurological inhibitor and include the word cannabinoid that should keep ya busy. Educate yourself properly and then maybe you and i can have a proper debate in the future.
As far as the lesson goes it was not a lesson more of a statement of reality. Using logic to apply the best solution to the oppression of the federal governments lies about the marijuana plant and it’s stereotype the government wants you the herd to believe.
Once again, in every necklace, there is a bead the stringer will wish he did not include…
Two people I would not engage in a debate, Bunny and you!
God’s mercy on you, and may you continue to practice your special veracity.
I live as you do in the war between the universe and mother nature and no existing or non-existent being could ever judge the mercy upon my soul except for myself. Blessings to you and may many positive influences exist in your universe.
Ur still lying bout the price per lb u get. And even if that is whatvubget the taxes amd fees even it out. Bud
Having a dispensary is expensive.
While dispensaries pre legalization were supposed to be 501c3 organizations, this does not mean they should opperate at a financial loss.
Most dispensaries have different product available, some cheaper and some expensive.
Some even have programs that donate weed to those that qualify.
Prices in a store should always be higher than in the street, and there are services you receive for those prices.
Direct services are security in purchase, and security in a safe product.
Indirect services come from the tax revenue generated and an employed community.
Kinda looks better than a bunch of dealers on a corner too.
Typed by a retail owner, LOL! Actually, probably not because retailers can’t “donate” without paying taxes as if it was sold.
Also, the “legal growers” mentioned in the text above, are likely to be the largest companies, who are growing in the Southern parts of the state, Kern, and out in the desert. You can see these giant greenhouses out on hiway 58 between San Luis and Bako, out there with the Solar Farms… These “legal grow operations” are likely to be rabble-rousing to get the “black market” growers of Humboldt, Mendo and Trinity to be broken up, and otherwise marginally disrupted whenever possible, so, don’t think your game is going to get easier!
Confidentially, I agree that the market was not set up correctly, but, we are all just learning here!
Growers, keep watching that rear view, and, hey, whose drone is that?
They are coming for you, so wake the heck up…
Reality is usually scoffed at, illusion is usually King. But for survival it’s going to be reality, not illusion or delusion that will determine what the future will bring. Dr. Stanley Monteith
Really.
My advice, for free, to everyone in California: Grow your own. It’s legal. Enjoy!
To Humboldt: You will eventually find another way to make a living.
~and, Mr. God, how are you going to change the latitude of Humboldt County? Hmmmm?
Stuff “Legal” where it’s dark. Back under the rock “legalese” crawled out from under.
TEN SQUARE MILES. NINETEEN ENUMERATED SERVICES. Health and Welfare was The Great Betrayal – by Eustice Mullins.
Are we clear?
Well now I just don’t know what the heck you are talking about…
It’s tough being the only bead unstrung, I’m sure…
~of course you don’t get ‘it’.
If you woke up tomorrow, it would be too late.
Parrots R Us to the rescue – it may be post traumatic slave disorder, contacted from the following:
For the good of the whole.
Beehive mentality.
Collectivism.
Group-think.
Enjoy your trip to Arizona and/or New Mexico. Be safe.
I think it’s actually a confluence of “went to work for 40 years, just now woke up syndrome”
and “forced to live on Soc Sec and investments for the duration”.
Have swell day, thanks for your thoughts, as always.
~i’m thinking you ‘believe’ you are awake after 40 years of work. (Woke up) syndrome : a group of signs and symptoms that occur together and characterize a particular abnormality or condition).
Why is common sense called ‘common’, when common sense is so uncommon? So, i’m dropping the word syndrome in reference to being awake.
Hell, i thought i was awake in ’06. I was awake enough to “pay debt to society” for 90 days -Not 7 years. Of course, i refused a Public Pretender. (Sales -second time. I refused to recognize the first time – as, I had “paid my debt to society, and the balance on that account is zero”).
Ya know, if you plan on being behind the wheel today, w/all of the crunches reported, maybe you should reconsider?
How can you claim to be awake when you said “it’s an interesting concept” regarding flat earth idiocy?
You still spread info from flat Earther lunatics.
You claimed supertanker didn’t fight the fires.
You claimed totally exaggerated numbers in deaths at Camp fire.
You think lasers started the fires as part of the agenda 21 grand paradigm.
And I have not seen you take any claims back or regard them as ridiculous, which they all are.
With respect HumCo, your dreaming if you think you’re awake.
~read until you have something to write . . .
write until you have nothing to write . . .
when you have nothing to write, read . . .
read until you have something to write.
Just this thread alone, you have 21 out of 100 comments.
Is that little mantra what’s going on in your brain in between each comment?
Illegal on a federal level? Gosh, I thought it was like, totally legal dude(insert sound of bong rip in background here)…Taxes? You mean I gotta pay to sit on my ass growin’ dope, er, I mean medicine for all the kids with cancer? But, but, my truck needs new rims…44’s to be exact.
[…] Source link […]
This is interesting.
“Zoning can be used to regulate “public property”, but not private property. Zoning, when allegedly applied to private individuals, private property, private businesses and private contracts, is a socialistic means of control and revenue collection. It has nothing to do with a constitutional republican form of government required by both the Constitution of Pennsylvania and the Constitution for the United States of America. We must always demand that all those in government strictly follow their constitutional “oath of office” according to the original intent of our founding documents!”
https://www.tnonline.com/2012/nov/24/zoning-unconstitutional-when-applied-private-property
“Article 4, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution is commonly called the Guarantee Clause. It reads, “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.” This clause guarantees that the federal government will assure and provide these three protections to all State governments:
1. Republican Form of Government;
2. Protection Against Invasion; and
3. Protection of Legislatures and Executive from domestic Violence.
…… ”
https://www.theamericanview.com/q-what-does-article-iv-section-4-really-mean/
“If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.”
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384
(laws that make Peace Officers turn into law ENforcement officers for example?)
~crap, I like stars,
Obsessionitess has set in again.
Can you really imagine anyone counting comments? Kym may have a file for each of us – idk. But between posters? Just Another Brick In The Wall.
Only twenty-one out of a hundred? That’s all? I’m flummoxed. Ha.
When one person takes 20% of the comment thread on a consistent basis, it’s not hard to miss.
But then, aren’t you the one who always says we need to research and realise, realize, real eyes?
I guess you dont like the medicine your prescribing?
You make counting sound like hard activity.
~your circular logic is boring the sh!t out of me.
I’m done talking to you, Brian.
Circular logic:
“~read until you have something to write . . .
write until you have nothing to write . . .
when you have nothing to write, read . . .
read until you have something to write”
– Quote from Central HumCo, 10 minutes ago.
Best wishes, sincerely.
it’s because this person is becoming unhinged. Probably weed and $$ related.
Hey Brian, at least if she is commenting here you won’t have to run the risk of running into her at a party or grocery store line ha
@Kym, why was my zoning/code of law post deleted and why is CH being attacked for word count?
I value CH’s input and would appreciate hearing CH’s input, not her assaulter’s.
This post:
February 5, 2019 12:52 pm
This is interesting.
“Zoning can be used to regulate “public property”, but not private property. Zoning, when allegedly applied to private individuals, private property, private businesses and private contracts, is a socialistic means of control and revenue collection. It has nothing to do with a constitutional republican form of government required by both the Constitution of Pennsylvania and the Constitution for the United States of America. We must always demand that all those in government strictly follow their constitutional “oath of office” according to the original intent of our founding documents!”
https://www.tnonline.com/2012/nov/24/zoning-unconstitutional-when-applied-private-property
“Article 4, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution is commonly called the Guarantee Clause. It reads, “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.” This clause guarantees that the federal government will assure and provide these three protections to all State governments:
1. Republican Form of Government;
2. Protection Against Invasion; and
3. Protection of Legislatures and Executive from domestic Violence.
…… ”
https://www.theamericanview.com/q-what-does-article-iv-section-4-really-mean/
“If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.”
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384
(laws that make Peace Officers turn into law ENforcement officers for example?)
Nothing deleted. I was just extremely busy and wasn’t able to moderate the comments yesterday. You had used multiple links and that sometimes makes my commenting software hold a comment for moderation.
It appears that it’s a good thing I archived the page after I posted the original post that I was then able to copy/paste into the new post that wasn’t “deleted”.
It’s also a good thing I kept the op to the 3 links or under so it wouldn’t go into moderation like it appears to have done.
The cool thing is, though, CH was able to provide me a lead or two to learn more from, so all is good.
Oh cool, I see my OP is back in place. Nice. Thanks.
http://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/02/us/politics/trump-tan.html
Enter Orange.
Shak, you should email Trump your made up defense of Trump, and your made up “assault” on the MSM.
The merry band of make-believers.
Buzz, buzz, buzz. There’s a brosquito in here. 😉
Ignore it Central. It feeds on attention.
Let’s keep it simple here. The answer is even easier than that. If you look at every other industry that is regulated or monitored in any way they have a cap on the number of facilities. Example certain number of alcohol licenses example certain number of tobacco vendor licenses or example certain number of whatever within the area, so the market doesn’t get flooded. So here’s the answer folks ding ding ding. Set number of cultivators Per County hello County officials are you hearing this? Hello waterboard are you hearing this? Hello everyone are you hearing this? Set number of cultivator licenses Per County based on the watersheds ability to sustain it huh. That’s where we should have started it in the first place. ❤❤ ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
~definitely! As has been stated in here by other commenters more than once.
The truth has to be repeated. Thank you, and stay vigilant Mendo Mamma.
Mendo Mamma, I disagree.. They start capping licenses and that sets up a real win loose scenario pitting neighbors against Neighbors.. It is much better to cap it at a certain square foot for each farm… Spread the wealth.. a few consolidated mega farms are exactly what the problem is to begin with… Are there caps on grape vineyards? I don’t think so. The problem is that All the farms went too big too soon… not necessarily that there were too many farms. Sure there are environmental problem to be aware of.. but I feel like it is a better approach to find natural boundaries, and limitations.. then to set hard limits..
~said more better, Small Fry.
I went right for the word decriminalize* as a possible step -but really, we’re way past the bend for that.
*i see my mistake now. It’s a verb transient – year 1969. Read no further. Skip that.
The problem is that there’s a “Middle Man” at all. The free market is made of free people. We have to escape the trap of corporate imposter government.
Does it seem okay that the supervisors and their families have their fingers in the pie then put caps on the licenses?
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims and he wears their face and their garments, he speaks to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”
–Marcus Tullius Cicero, an ancient Roman lawyer, writer, scholar, orator and Statesman, 106 BC – 43 BC.
I was in close communication with Estelle Fennell the summer prior to Moonbeam sending a letter to the BOS, stating that if they didn’t pass a control document regarding MM, before a certain date in the spring of 2016, then the State would. Prior to the BOS’s fraudulent COMMERCIAL MM LAND USE (O)RDINANCE, Moonbeam withdrew his phony baloney letter threat. December of 2015 i gave Estelle a copy of;
https://mises.org/library/zoning-laws-destroy-communities.
It’s interesting to note that eight days after the BOS passed their frivolous CMMLUO -taxation without representation (w/out the consent of the governed), Commerce came to a complete stand-still – WORLDWIDE – first time eva!! Whenever you see Public Private PartnerShip, know that the state and federal constitutions are being trampled.
We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom . . . the soap box . . . the ballot box . . . the jury box . . . and the cartridge box.
The proposition was voted on. It clearly stated tax burden was to be created to “allocate revenue from the taxes to be spent on drug research, treatment, and enforcement, health and safety grants addressing marijuana, youth programs, and preventing environmental damage resulting from illegal marijuana production.” It also included the right of local government to permit (did not provide limiting language such as reasonable, necessary, etc), sales taxes, permitted retailers, etc. So complaining about the taxes is fine but complaining that it wasn’t voted on is not true. It’s more true that pot growers and maybe some users did not understand what they were voting for. Not surprising. But would a proposition without those guarantees of revenues to remediate for a whole list of publicly perceived defects of illegal grows passed? Probably not.
“The proposition was voted on.” (The word is “Ordinance”.)
~and your evidence would be?
Logic dictates that you cannot prove somebody violated an Ordinance/Code if you cannot prove that the Ordinance/Code applies in the first place.
“and your evidence would be?” Prop 64 passed? And the wording is there for everyone to see?
Prop 64, labeled ‘Recreation’, was AFTER the January 2016 ORDINANCE – that WAS NOT voted on.
You’re either part of the solution, or you support the evil.
This is so fun to watch.
As long as a person is arguing a point, then they are fine. The last part of his post was a bit of a snipe but over all, that poster tries to make points, not personal attacks. I am not required to agree with those points, or even read them all, in order to be respectful of the person as having the right to express them.
On the other hand someone who just insults without discussion is demanding that everyone accept their opinion based on nothing. And it’s pretty delusional to think that anyone will think that well of you despite the irritation of total lack of respect you’ve shown for others.
Exact quote:
‘There is no more neutrality in the world. You either have to be part of the solution, or you’re going to be part of the problem.’ – Eldridge Cleaver. Prior to that, the Bible, and had probably been said before that.
Standing for Common Law is the only example left on Earth for a de jure government.
Either you are sovereign in a common law jurisdiction, or you are a slave in the commercial jurisdiction. There is nothing else.
If people stop knocking back glasses of cognitive dissonance and two pills of ignorance, things will get solved a lot faster.
Your just so off.
Here is just one comment of 30 on this thread from HumCo:
~of course you don’t get ‘it’.
If you woke up tomorrow, it would be too late.
Parrots R Us to the rescue – it may be post traumatic slave disorder
That’s HumCo responding to others who have different opinions on weed! Just one.
And your insulted by me pointing out the many falsehoods HumCo spreads regarding deaths in our fires?
So funny the pickings and choosing of some, like you.
So, back to the bittersweet comedies of the comment threads.
Thanks for the link CH.
I remember the flurry of hurry up and agree so we can get the ball rolling and refine the rules later articles.
People said “say what?”.
Toked a few more, then went and voted.
Not all, but enough of them to wreck havoc.
Forced vaccinations , brother from another Free Mother….this would be a good area to focus on. So , do you have supreme authority over your personal conveyance…or does the state have the right to alter your immune system with no repercussions? Black or white or Brown, left, center or right; straight and narrow, or wavy gravy, they are going to steam roll the population who cannot stand together and say Hell No!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RfkkdCg2830
HHS mandatory adult vaccinations 2020..
Wtf…?!….Recession, or No recession in the market, if you force inject healthy people and the manufacturers are not liable all the money in the world will do ya no good.
Every single person I know that has a legal permit sling’s Black Market weed. It is ridiculous I know some of these idiots in Willow Creek that turn in Black Market Growers but then sellBlack Market weed all day long. Emerald Family Farms assholes. Also there’s a group of them up Waterman Ridge. They hire illegal aliens to do their work. And they sell huge amounts of black market weed then they hide behind their legal permit. The Weed biz is a joke. Black Market gray Market White Market all the same if you ask me
True. It is unlikely that those in charge of the regulations don’t equally realize that. The question is always what will they do about it. If anything.
Thank you! I also know these people. They are nice people. But what they do is wrong and greedy. They are not unusual as every permitted grow I know does the same thing. They consider it as the next step in some outlaw ethic but it is not- they are crushing their own neighbors into poverty. Not cool Bros.
Yep legal licensed farm grows 3,000 lbs can only get rid of 500 thru dispensary sold the rest black
~the impact of the treasonous act in January 2016, is the unlawful conversion from Public Law to private corporate law being practiced throughout the realm in otherwise Public Courts, the use of “legal” rather than “lawful” -presumptions in these public, now private ‘hearings’ in the Planning Department, using unlawful conversion of private property into public property, enslavement and press-ganging of living men by a process of personage and impersonation, terrorist raids by Order Followers practicing “Nuisance” and “Abatement” procedures, and all the other evils we have witnessed.
Press ganging? Enslavement? Personage and impersonation(is that incorporation?)? Examples are needed as it seems extreme hyperbole to call regulation of a non life giving practice as slavery. If you do that, then private property also has no meaning as it is regulation that gives individuals rights to property without having to seek the protection of patronage.
We need to recall or vote out the whole board of extortion and fraud (minus madrone).there all treasonous rip offs and we need to send em job hunting
“recall or vote” So far Estelle hasn’t budged -no class, she should step down. Voting for trustees on a Board of a corporation that we have no control over, is like a dog returning to his own vomit. The jig is up….the executioner is ready…they have a short time.
Henchman of Justice, training is over, you’re up.
Of course they do, Crusty! If the “legal” market is saturated, and it is by about 10,000%, the sharks start to feed upon each other. How much weed is grown vs. consumed by the Ca. potheads? It goes out of state! That is NOT legal, but we all know that is what is going on. When the compassionate care act (fraud) was the hot excuse, the “doctors” were on board because at 150.00 a pop for the “recommendation” (not a prescription, as that would be impossible on it’s face), it lined their pockets, giving the growers a green light to race to the finish line. When the “recreational” feces hit the whirling blades, they (the doctors) saw the cash cow heading for auction, and backpedaled faster than the speed of light. Well, the race is over, but the track is a fucking mess and the cars are still going around the track. Now we have a surplus of something that the value of is dropping like a stone, and the only way to stay afloat is to do what has killed every market in the history of mankind.
Get bigger, make less, and pretend everything will level out…
Poor weed farmers are eating themselves. Blame it on everything else, but their own bad choices to be “outlaws” or whatever reasoning they came up with to live that way and pursue those goals. Some of them might do ok. I feel (a little bit) for the nicer people that have been there doing it before the 215 farce, but the rest of them can go back to where they came from.
Queue legalelettuce to inform us of how well he’s doing and how much better he is than everyone else.
Ever-evolving, never resolving. SIGH…
What are you going to do? When you can pull 15lbs off legal 6 it’s not really a competitive market to be in. You have no competitive advantage when everyone can do it and does.
~compare it to McDonalds being next to Burger King in Fortuna. They both serve hamburgers and fries, yet both co-exist as neighbors.
The consumers will decide victory or defeat.
Hmmmkay, last I heard, burgers were not being sold for 1500 a lb. or, the D.E.A. weren’t kicking down your door for a schedule 1 burger. Comparing burgers to bud is like, well, we know what that is like. Try again. Not to fling poo, just sayin’…
~try again . . .
Are they, buds and burgers, both not described as an “industry”? (I)ndustry is the same as manufacturing in real estate law. But, with no respect for words, ‘industry’ is slung around as if everybody agrees on its definition. The Military Industrial complex, industrial disease, big pharma industry. It’s not a word to be applied to nature.
Businesses are run the same. Assets = Liabilities + Owner’s Equity + Revenue -minus Expenses.
My comparison was about business to business and product quality. The best burger, or, best bud or oil, turns more profit.
Hunter-Gather – “Nature Provided”
Agriculture – Controlled Nature
Industrial – Mechanized Agriculture
IT/Bio/Nano – Automating Industry/Agriculture
Virtual – Robotization of IT/Bio/Nano/Industry/Agriculture
In real estate law the four property tax categories are; residential, agriculture, manufacturing, and commercial. Home. Crops and/or cattle. Boat building/shipyard -manufacturing of some kind. Target, Dairy Queen. And the timber ‘resource’ designation.
What the anal retentive “County” did, while too incompetent to pass an economic exam, and without Full Disclosure, mish-moshed. Sold the people ‘down the river’, who also didn’t know, or bother to learn, up from down. Otherwise, they would not have knowingly partnered with a public entity. It’s just not done. It’s unconstitutional on so many levels. Sold the growers deeper into slavery with the stroke of a pen and never looked back.
No matter how much time passes, fraud is fraud. You can’t join in the fraud and not be a part of it.
Schedule 1 burger -that’s funny. Cannabis is not an issue of crime. It’s a matter of education. No one can transform nature into the criminal realm.
“An unconstitutional act is not law; it confers no rights; imposes no duties; affords no protection; it creates no office; it is in legal contemplation, as inoperative as if it had never been passed.” Norton v. Shelby County.” 118 U.S. 425
Jon Rappoport on MiND Control.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_noA7-qY26A
Some people don’t realize that this is a very deliberate, intricately woven piece of programming. How incredible is it to think that there are such limitations to this prehistoric group think. We can send images across the globe, with our current know technology.
Can you imagine what they are withholding….?
~maybe withholding Tesla’s dream of energy for everyone? It’s been over a hundred years since the patents were issued. Free energy is like saying wet water. Energy is . . . ‘free’.
The manufactured hamster wheel is real. They’ve got this planet nearly locked down. The resistance is trying hard to resist the technology, but as I’ve always reminded friends, it’s easier to resist in the beginning.
“We Won’t Get Fooled Again, NO, NO”
Manufactured consent IS the Matrix, at the most profound level.
A valid claim must be in evidence. Begin at the beginning . . . the local terrorists of the Inquisition -CFW, HCS’s Deputies, persecutors, SOMEBODY, better have something in writing from the Secretary of State granting authority to use THE NAME in commerce. The factual evidence of proof is not on record. “The State” simply cannot lawfully claim control of the living, or perform wrong action (intent to harm), without a contract in place (no, not the idiotic COMMERCIAL MM (a)pplication). A naked agreement does not create an obligation.
Ask the D.E.A. if weed is legal. Let me know how that works out. Or better yet, let me know when you get out…
~ask one of the, too numerous to count, alphabet soup agencies. Good idea. Not.
Dont worry Newsome ans all his family are big players in the legal weed market. Hes going to start his state run banks and send in troops up here to run out the cartel (brown people).
“Ultimately everything depends on the quality of the individual, but our fatally short-sighted age thinks in terms of large numbers and mass organizations.” Jung
Update: article from LA Times regarding The Governor’s recent expansion of efforts by the California National Guard to work with federal officials to target the black market, including illegal drug grows in Northern California operated by international drug cartels.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-gavin-newsom-crackdown-pot-black-market-20190219-story.html
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