First Two Complete Annual State Cultivation Licenses Issued to Humboldt County Farm

Cultivation licenses

Forbidden Fruit Farms, a Southern Humboldt cannabis business, received the first two annual cultivation licenses in California. [Photo provided by Green Road Consulting] 

Today, a small Southern Humboldt cannabis farm, Forbidden Fruit, received the first two licenses issued for cultivators in the state of California. Dylan Carstensen who owns the farm said he was lying in bed with his partner, Kaylie Saxon, when he learned the news.

A look at the Forbidden Fruit Farm earlier this year. [Photo from Forbidden Fruit Farms' Instagram]

A bud in a greenhouse on Forbidden Fruit Farms. [Photo from Forbidden Fruit Farms’ Instagram]

“We got an email about it,” he explained. “I was honestly in shock at first. No one has Specialty Outdoor and Specialty Mixed-Light—since 2016. He explained that he had opted to begin the permit because their situation was relatively uncomplicated. “Compared to a lot of other people, it was not as hard,” he said, “Our houses were already permitted…We are pretty small. We only have approximately 10,000 sq feet.”

Carstensen said he had been growing for years and his parents were growers as well. “A lot of our neighbors were thinking about doing it,” he explained. “We met up with Robin [Collins] from Green Road and started.”

Still, he said, “We had a lot of difficult things we had to do. We had to have archaeological studies done and on and on.”

Saxon, Carstensen’s partner, who is the General Manager at Green Roads and who has worked extensively in the permit process noted, “This has been such a hard process for our community. I hope this gives everybody a little hope that there is light at the end of the tunnel.” Or, possibly, for the many growers trying to wallow through the system, there is hope for a license at the end of the tunnel.

Carstensen added, “I am sure there are companies that have millions and millions of dollars backing them and we’re this small farm out in Humboldt that got our license.”

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A look at the Forbidden Fruit Farms earlier this year. [Photo from Forbidden Fruit Farms’ Instagram]

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binbearda4
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binbearda4
5 years ago

all well and good and really cute with the frog and everything. About as cute as that they all are and bred from and still are hardened criminals with an admitted past to fucking the law and running weed. Great till the name of their business catch’s up with them. Hey, get it while you can,,, bang a gong,

Seamus
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Seamus
5 years ago
Reply to  binbearda4

In 33 years living the Humboldt dream, I never met a hardened criminal. Though i have been reading about them more and more.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago
Reply to  binbearda4

Frogs are the worst especially the hardened weed running criminal kind they are ruining our county. Not sure how you know they are inbred but hey what you do in your spare time is your business!

Lone ranger
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Lone ranger
5 years ago

Light at the end of the tunnel ,still hope for huge legal grows everywhere, and I mean HUGE grows to come, located close to the market,as long a dollar can be made ,more huge grows keep coming until that dollar is gone.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago
Reply to  Lone ranger

More like chicken little than lone ranger.

Bababooie
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Bababooie
5 years ago

The light at the end of the tunnel is a train.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago
Reply to  Bababooie

Yea I hear ya we are gonna need that train to move loads and loads and loads of Humboldt weed to central and southern California where their dry shit cannot compete!!

Alt right through turd Reich
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Alt right through turd Reich
5 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Not true. So cal quality is the same as Humboldt’s

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago

I call bullshit!

Chatty Cathy
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Chatty Cathy
5 years ago

Now that’s funny!

T
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T
5 years ago

Anyone with any smarts left in them dedicated to continuing in the weed industry left [edit]umboldt years ago. It is cheaper and easier down south with lower electricity rates, cheap labor, year round sunny and 74. Yes, the weed is now better down there because the more educated, adept growing cmmunity relocated there from here many years ago. [Edit] is now saturated with the the knowitall latecomer growers from diego, o.c. and l.a. who never took a season to learn back when the experts were here, and are too stoned to realize the industry left long ago. Idiots who think they know everything, so they learn nothing. This county is becoming poorer and less educated by the second, but lets talk about weed, and how good it used to be.

groba dude trustafarian osnt
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groba dude trustafarian osnt
5 years ago

Congratulations for taking the time, and going to the expense to convert your covert black-market pot farm to legal. Now, you are a Cannabis business man.

Good luck competing, in your remote location, with the huge commercial farms which will very soon be built, everywhere.

Marijuana, as a recreational substance, is likely to become inexpensive, so I hope you are prepared for the new public perception, that, smoking dope is passe. It won’t be so much fun, now that it’s legal…

Be sure to comply with all applicable laws, going forward, and thanks for setting an example.

Remember, pot smokers who come out, frequently get fired.

Whatever
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Whatever
5 years ago

LMFAO… This is just underhanded way to get free advertisement by Green Roads Consulting who owns the farm and did their own paperwork before their clients while charging other farmers high prices.

Sharpen your pencil
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Sharpen your pencil
5 years ago
Reply to  Whatever

PSA: Do not use green roads consulting, they are under a microscope and many people who thought that using this consulting firm was a sure way to get a permit. In reality they will hurt your permit process!

rollin
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rollin
5 years ago
Reply to  Whatever

BINGO!

Dinks
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Dinks
5 years ago
Reply to  Whatever

Ya , No shit a great way to screw your competition !, “All you have to do is just turn left”” What a fuckin joke the story is… lmao .Typical Humboldt business maneuvering to get the rear end swabbing the state likes in this huge tax revenue Grab Im sure theyre farm is all lied up on tax n trace program RIGHT??? 33-38 % state rate , Im sure they are super Excited!! YAY…

Alt right through turd Reich
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Alt right through turd Reich
5 years ago
Reply to  Whatever

@whatever yup free publicity for their bullshit program. Was it green road who was cuffed and stuffed at one of their “legal” grows in 2016?

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago

Sticky skunky fat nugs! Not seen any of that down south. Never in my life have I heard anyone say “hey wanna go smoke some mediocre dry harsh weed!!

Sparkle Mahn
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5 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

You haven’t been to NY.

Wyatt
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Wyatt
5 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Mexican dirt weed is still available……

FMF
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FMF
5 years ago

Congratulations! It’s a long hard process and you got there. .. well done

Donna Justice
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Donna Justice
5 years ago
Reply to  FMF

Congratulations! Green for green will continue on the evolutionary journey!

For Sure
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5 years ago

Well, you work for the permitting processors…I can’t believe the permits are soo hard to get- everyone who is complying in every way & permits are still not being given.

LostCoastEMP
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LostCoastEMP
5 years ago

Good luck competing with the rest of California. So you mean There was no legal farms in humboldt until now! Lmfao.

read
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5 years ago
Reply to  LostCoastEMP

No legal farm in Cali. until now.

Susanne Hand
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Susanne Hand
5 years ago

I look forward to the day I can leave Humboldt Co drugs behind. I didn’t vote to legalize, I blackout with the use of THC. You don’t want me driving on your roads or caring for your children &/or pets in such a state. I know others have the same reaction, and we can easily cause severe truama and death to loved ones.
I am very close to all involved in this dangerous drug trade here in Humboldt. Many are convicted criminals with weapons and a violent past and present, this is scary and unstable as your neighbor next door.
It is my mistake for moving here without the knowledge of what Humboldt Co is known for in most circles, with the marijuana grows, sales, those addicted to pot, and with nonchalant acceptance. It is still illegal with the Feds I believe, so the bad guys are out there and living dangerously with all at stake. It’s not a lifestyle I choose or want to live around, ever. I do wish you safety and freedom.

read
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5 years ago
Reply to  Susanne Hand

You have the worst judgement of anybody i every heard of! How did you fall in with the worst of the worst so fast? Are you shooting THC? You have wrote the darkest comment I have ever read. It is so dark it made me laugh but then again I am stoned.

LostCoastEMP
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LostCoastEMP
5 years ago
Reply to  read

Marijuana is a drug. With all drugs comes a black market because of overinflated white market. With black markets comes illegal money. With illegal money comes crime. Drugs are bad. Money is needed. Pick your evils, just don’t tell me it’s medicine for your patients! It’s money for your pocket, plain n simple

read
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5 years ago
Reply to  LostCoastEMP

But I want to tell you that cannabis is medicine and yes the last twenty years it been damn good money.

ElDub
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ElDub
5 years ago
Reply to  read

read: Lol Love your response to the reefer madness lady.

Longtime gone
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Longtime gone
5 years ago
Reply to  Susanne Hand

Bye bye. Tale care.

CinnyBun
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CinnyBun
5 years ago
Reply to  Susanne Hand

Buh Bye.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago
Reply to  Susanne Hand

Need help packing!!

UnCommonSense
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UnCommonSense
5 years ago
Reply to  Susanne Hand

So you’re saying booze is ok because drinking is not a crime? Those effects you described are the very same that alcohol does to me (and roughly 99.9% of the entire human race). But there are no criminals who use alcohol, right? All crooks drink water, so possession of dihydrogen monoxide should be a felony, right? You really should leave Humboldt. But I got bad, bad news for you: crime is everywhere, even where marijuana is rare.
Also, if you are “very close to all involved” with “convicted criminals with weapons and a violent past and present”, what does that say about you? I have been smoking weed since 1982, and I can’t say that I personally know ANY violent criminals. Even if you move to Arkansas, you are still you. And you will continue to surround yourself with disgusting people until you yourself are no longer a disgusting person.

Sparkle Mahn
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5 years ago
Reply to  UnCommonSense

Gottum!

Wyatt
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Wyatt
5 years ago
Reply to  Susanne Hand

Isn’t this a Great Country where you can make your own decisions to live how you want and where you want….. HUMBOLDT WON’T MISS YOU!

Supervisors the problem
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Supervisors the problem
5 years ago

I feel sorry for you folks after the states 26%,the countys fees,plus your investment you’ll make less than working at the shell station and you’ll be putting in 70 hrs a week just to barely make it.unless you cheat the system that was designed to make you a modern slave!!! Burn in hell Estelle!!!! The biggest pot rip off in Humboldt history!!!!!

jeffersonian
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jeffersonian
5 years ago

the whole idea is to cheat the system. show a small legit income, black market the rest.

Farce
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Farce
5 years ago
Reply to  jeffersonian

Yes, of course. The obvious strategy that nobody comments publicly about! Have one grow permitted, another that isn’t and run your pounds either way to satisfy the track n trace- if it ever even happens!- while selling into whichever market pays better. Everybody is doing it. All officials pretend it isn’t happening. Biggest pile of lying scammers this business has ever produced!

LostCoastEMP
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LostCoastEMP
5 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Big mafia has moved in ….. and it’s not the bulgys!

RecallRexBohn
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RecallRexBohn
5 years ago
Reply to  Farce

I was told by a bigwig in the local Department of Agriculture that there is no enforcement of Track & Trace; that on the State level, they just don’t even bother and, on the County level, they do only on inspection per season, which means intensive mixed light operations get away with blackmarketing at least two of their light dep crops. Boycott Honeydew Creek Farms!

Whatever
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Whatever
5 years ago

Welcome to the despotism of California where the bureaucracy exists for its own benefit while elected officials use their positions to enrich themselves their families and friends on backs of working people and property. Oh don’t like it or agree? Here’s an a demand for $75,000 without due process and a shit ton of taxes to keep our budget agenda rolling. Oh wait, we’re making it a sanctuary too, where other people from other countries win the lottery at workers expense, and get benefits that the average citizen doesn’t qualify. One last thing too, we’re gonna put the next few generations in debt slavery for an education just so they can work a bullshit job that the government then get 40% in taxes and repayment, and then they get to administer their lavish budgets while putting competition out of business through any means including international war. It’s called a Race to the Bottom under Autocratic Oligarchy AKA Despotism.

rollin
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rollin
5 years ago
Reply to  Whatever

Daaaamn, BINGO AGAIN!

LostCoastEMP
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LostCoastEMP
5 years ago
Reply to  rollin

No shit. Spot on!

Wyatt
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Wyatt
5 years ago

Yep Legalization will “Weed” out the weak little guys, that are probably poisoning everyone with pesticides anyway….

T
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T
5 years ago
Reply to  Wyatt

Bigger the grow, more prevalence of nasty pesticides. Very easy to control or eradicate pests on small scenes.

guest
Guest
guest
5 years ago

Ignoring all the kvetching by those who cling to the old ways of the criminal, congratulations on what seems a difficult road. I wish you success.

Just Saying
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Just Saying
5 years ago
Reply to  guest

Dude. good sentiment

Phyllis
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Phyllis
5 years ago

Congratulations, the first 5 years of any new business is crucial for survival. Bet its like winning the cannabis lottery. May your years remain fruitful.

Faro
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Faro
5 years ago

The county’s economic activity index is down 7% in July 2018 compared to July 2017. Basically this countys economy is tanking and I don’t think a few permitted farms paying their employees $15 an hour is really going to make a difference.

But good luck to Forbidden Fruits and everybody still growing weed. Who knows, maybe a bunch of legal farms will do amazing. Maybe there will also be a black market diesel dope renaissance. Also it would be really cool if the county didn’t send people abatement letters who are growing six plants in a 1000 sq foot greenhouse, since that is totally legal under state law.

Another Farm With A Temp Permit
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Another Farm With A Temp Permit
5 years ago
Reply to  Faro

Agreed that the county overall is tanking. Most certainly it is changing (again). However, all of my legal tax paying cannabis employees covered with workers comp average $31/hr AFTER TAXES and we are still profitable. Learn to adapt or parish in the new paradigm. CONGRATS to this farm for going all the way and making CA history!!!

Perspective
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Perspective
5 years ago

Holy bullshit batman. “$31/hr AFTER TAXES”, no way.

Another Farm With A Temp Permit
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Another Farm With A Temp Permit
5 years ago
Reply to  Perspective

Nope. No BS. My trimmers average $32/hr take home pay and my hourly employees are paid $25-33/hr. We’re quite profitable and happy to spread it around where we can in Humboldt especially with our employees who then also spread it around the community. Other permitted farms could also pay more and I wish they would. It’s a win-win for our business and our community.

rollin
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rollin
5 years ago

Enjoy it while it lasts

Another Farm With A Temp Permit
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Another Farm With A Temp Permit
5 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Enjoying every minute! If/when things change so will we. Adaptability, forward thinking, saving for a rainy day, solid business education, treating employees with respect and good pay, as well as contingency and exit plans are all important factors in life and success.

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago

My jaw just dropped. I hope you are not an internet phantasm and that you really have a business that offers legal workers a good wage and long term employment.
Almost everything else in comments here is a long litany of vitriolic “your going to be sorry when I’m gone” sung to the tune of “Me, Me, Me” in a mind stultifying monotone.

Running a business legitimately is hard. It’s not for everyone. But when well done, it offers stability and pride to workers in that business. In turn these workers bring it to the community. It makes a better world for all.

LostCoastEMP
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LostCoastEMP
5 years ago
Reply to  Faro

You can grow six plants in a 1000 sq foot greenhouse. You just can’t use any water, scrape the top soil, burn any fuel, use fertilizer or take a crap on your own property …. than your fine! I

Wyatt
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Wyatt
5 years ago
Reply to  Faro

Well yeah…. We used to get 3-4k a lb. and now we’re lucky to get 600-1k, income is down across the board, unless you have the ability to double or quadruple your output… The more you grow the higher the overhead, making it just as hard to show a profit! Especially with indoor…..

Sheesh
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Sheesh
5 years ago
Reply to  Wyatt

If you are not profiting in legal indoor you either don’t know how/what to grow… don’t understand business… or both. Indoor is where it’s at when it comes to legal CA flowers in dispensaries. 99.9% of CA outdoor will all become a concentrate commodity.

Keep it Country
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Keep it Country
5 years ago

Growing the big dope is so last year. If you’re still hanging on to that dream it’s because you ain’t got no other skills and didn’t save any scratch to move into another opportunity. Good luck out the Basura blanco!

Ezra
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Ezra
5 years ago

What’s sad about this story is the hundreds of other growers who applied and got thrown under the bus everytime the county supervisors would switch up the rules
The homesteaders who built their own homes their own piece of heaven on earth now taxed and fined for the life they chose, just doesn’t seem right

Hahahaha
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Hahahaha
5 years ago

In the winter time while the rain wind and snow are trashing green houses here, Californians will be growing on grid, in hot valleys pretty much everywhere else. location, location, location.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago
Reply to  Hahahaha

Dry and shitty weed is only good for making concentrates. My fat skunky sticky nugz are a hit all over the country 😁

Sparkle Mahn
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5 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Humboldt = Godland

T
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T
5 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Dry and shitty is improper care post harvest genius. It can be had in humboldt, mexico, or heaven.

For Sure
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5 years ago

The permits need to be given, as easily as they are given in other counties. Then, the market will do what the market’s gonna do. We’ll either be livin’ in Heaven, or the opposite- pot slaves. All things basic are costly nowadays. Being financially stable is almost like being rich now. Being in a place where you can grow your own veggies, fruits, have some chickens,etc. is still way better than crowded, polluted city dwelling. And- the bottom line is that legal weed from a store/dispensary is as expensive as ever. Growers- unite& keep up your profit margins!

Supervisors the problem
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Supervisors the problem
5 years ago

Yeah we’re in trouble here I’m afraid Humboldt has seen its day in the sun and we’re heading down hill fast.resteraunts closing with many other buissnesses the depression is here,its starting.Those cunts at the planning department on there high horse power trip money grab and the supervisors are going to destroy thousands and thousands of people’s lives here.just goes to show you how a few can ruin many.the skill and dedication people give to the growth of cannibas here is going to be wasted by a few bureaucrat power pigs, and our economy is through!!!!! Vote no on measure o don’t fund to speed up the complete destruction of our economy on the north coast

Erich
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Erich
5 years ago

Fuck the illegal growers who did nothing but drive up the crime rate increase taxes and never paid a penny in said taxes. They were driven by greed and now their days of living fat off illegal weed is over

UnCommonSense
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UnCommonSense
5 years ago
Reply to  Erich

Now that the prices of legal weed average 150% of the ’80s and ’90s black market prices, people talk about the greed of the black market.
Now that Humboldt’s crime has been tied directly to opioids and amphetamines, people talk about criminals in the weed industry.
Now I point out the obvious: all “weed crimes” consisted of possession-related charges- including manufacture and sales. We make, possess, sell, and use many things every day. Most of these things are not a crime. The real crime that centers around weed is robbery and murder. But it is not a crime to be the VICTIM of a crime. Blaming a grower for being robbed or killed is exactly the same as blaming you for your house being burglarized or your car stolen.

Wyatt
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Wyatt
5 years ago
Reply to  Erich

I don’t know where you get your info, but most of the growers I know pay taxes, and the only records they have are playing on a record player….

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Wyatt

Pay some taxes where they can’t wriggle out of it. Not the large amount that their income would require from any legal work. The county would be a whole lot less ugly if they did pay what everyone else does.

T
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T
5 years ago
Reply to  Erich

Greed is capitalism, and you live in a capitalist country. You dont have to participate, but dont waste your hours being jealous of those who do. Growers have paid the lions share of property taxes and sales taxes in this county since the 1970s. The latest generation has in a large part paid income taxes as well, now that it is possible to do so. This is and is becoming much more apparent now as that economy locally is tanking. Go introduce yourself to a business owner of any type in Humboldt right now and ask about sales. It aint pretty, ask them why and you wont get more than one answer.

Kim.p
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5 years ago

Well said

Emily
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Emily
5 years ago

Well, for another perspective, I will say that black market prices and demand are higher this year than last. I’m sure it’s because of increased enforcement. Also, every (every) permitted farm is still selling on the black market. If they were not, the black market would be even stronger. The fact is, to survive as a grower you just need to be smarter than the forces out there that want to take you out, just like the old days!

guest
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guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Emily

Just what the world need- more clever crooks.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago
Reply to  guest

We prefer to be called outlaws or rebels. The federal government is a crook for lying to the American people and classifying the cannabis plant as a schedule 1 narcotic stating it has no medicinal value. They have lied we sir/man are just enforcing our constitutional rights as US citizens!!

Sparkle Mahn
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5 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Hippies have always been, and will always be, smarter than the straight and narrow minded.

For Sure
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5 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

It’s called Civil Disobedience…cannabis was underhandedly made illegal…mixed it all up with racism & immigration, just like always. The well educated kids of the 50s & 60s figured it out. ( I.e., they got ” hip to it”, thus Hippies). They went to organics & back to the land. Got away from the sleezey mainstream war of the time. K.I.S.S.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago
Reply to  For Sure

Sounds complicated let’s just agree the US created a huge tax free market so they could boost law enforcement coffers! I grow on a hill to pay my bills = hillbilly

guest
Guest
guest
5 years ago
Reply to  For Sure

It’s called being a crook. Only crooks, in their distorted self justification, take pride in their crookedness. Same as politicians rationalize their malfeasance by saying they “needed” money. Same as corrupt corporations justify it or police justify it or shoplifters justify it. All the same. They just “need” it.

Everyone “needs” it. It’s what you are willing to do to others in the pursuit that makes one honorable and the other dishonorable.

Good Times!
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Good Times!
5 years ago
Reply to  Emily

I agree prices are great and stable. Never sold so fast right out of the gate. I don’t care where it goes it was bought, sold and grown in good ole Humboldt County. Another fabulous year and predicting many more! Black Markets Matter…

LGR
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LGR
5 years ago

Congratulations Forbidden Fruit Farms! Please ignore all these lazy Fu*k trolls. They all clearly don’t work and either sit at home all day or in a Starbucks waiting to comment on this site. I’m sure they mostly live in some armpit of a town or small “city” surrounded by real junkies of one form or another and have nothing better to do than blame cannabis for the downfall of civilization. Wake up, it’s caused by poverty, a lack of education, and hard drugs. It’s either that or haters that have no confidence in this new white market since they blew whatever money they made in black market on some hillbilly rich nonsense. The best part of this is you now have a legal business doing what you’ve been doing your whole life. As you know, there is still a lot of money to be made in this business, and it’s really just getting going. If your not already, soon you’ll be getting 100’s of thousands in checks that you can spend however you see fit. Sure, there will be taxes, and the bills will never stop coming, but focus on management, compliance, spending your hard earned money wisely. Best of luck to you.

Sleepy Alligator
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Sleepy Alligator
5 years ago

I’m happy these folks are free to grow but how about telling us the total amount of money you spent to accomplish this goal. Then I’ll decide if your story gives me hope or not.

Flatgirl
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Flatgirl
5 years ago

EXACTLY
Without a stash of illegally accumulated capital, this would not have happened.
I too wish you luck, but the whole story would be revealing I suspect.

Y Knot?
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Y Knot?
5 years ago

May God have mercy on your soul for poisoning lives, minds, and communities with marijuana.

Repent of your sins or burn in Hell with the Devil’s Lettuce…..

Kim.p
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5 years ago
Reply to  Y Knot?

You really need to lighten up, oh I mean light up.😁

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago
Reply to  Y Knot?

Who is God? Where is this hell. How do you know it burns, I say fake news. If you live your life in hopes of things after death you have not truly lived life! Legal lettuce circa 2018

Sparkle Mahn
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5 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

God is in my thermal P banger! Hell is in Los Angeles.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago
Reply to  Sparkle Mahn

Is Hell male or female? Describe what Hell looks like. I do not wanna run into Hell when I am down south a lot of people talk about Hell in a bad way.

All still illegal
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All still illegal
5 years ago

One thing that is being overlooked, if this is one of the only farms in humboldt to receive a state licence, and it’s illegal to cultivate Untill you have one, then all these hoops with temperary county licenses are just as illegal as they were before this all started..Why aren’t they being inspected then eradicated ? County permit means nothing without a state permit, so anyone with hoops full or a big full term patch is breaking the law even more then a guy with zero permits, the going legal guys signed an agreement not to grow until state permits are issued. So in short this article is stating that there is only 1 legal operation in humboldt. There is still thousands of hoops out there that can be easily seen from public roadways, what’s the hold up, this article clearly states that they are all operating illegally except for this one recently permitted farm.The farms going legal should be inspected regularly to ensure they aren’t jumping the gun, and if they are they should be eradicated and prosecuted just the same as everyone else.The rules are the rules!For instance a person that is working on getting a real estate licensed can’t open a reality and start selling houses and property just because they are trying to get their licence, only when they have been issued one can they begin their business, same goes for ANY other legal business.

Central HumCo
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5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Would you choose bull-oney legal over filet magnon lawful?

Sparkle Mahn
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5 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

If it was Oscar Meyer I’d choose the bull-oney.

Central HumCo
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Sparkle Mahn

Oh ha, ha. I’m talkin the bestest -Ferndale.

Legal?
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Legal?
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

County or state temperarys?

Legal?
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Legal?
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

So then how many temperarys have been given by the state?without the state ok they aren’t legal right?

Chatty Cathy
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Chatty Cathy
5 years ago

Now now it’s just a provisional permit like when you were 15, as long as there is an adult onsite, and it’s not after dark, you may cultivate with your provisional permit.

T
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T
5 years ago

It is a money grab game both sides are playing. Law and morality got divorced long ago in this country. Be cognizant of law but dont let it dictate you. Hold onto your morality for dear life

RecallRexBohn
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RecallRexBohn
5 years ago

Bohn’s got his poster children too – they are busy destroying Honeydew with their traffic and trash and 24-hour noise from fans and generators that can be heard for miles around. Boycott Honeydew Creek Farms!

Central HumCo
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5 years ago
Reply to  RecallRexBohn

Honeydew Farms i’m thinking, was one of the first to bow to their $lave Ma$ter. Seven permits issued for the existing encroachment into the forest -three (or four?) max. permitted, so . . . “The County” snarfed-up three (or four), of them in exchange for paper permission to Honeydew Farms. Cozy!

This is where The County Leasing Corporation (the Tax Collector’s position), meets the Public-private Partnership pavement.

RecallRexBohn
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RecallRexBohn
5 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

I’m talking about Honeydew Creek Farms, owned by Cody King. You’re talking about Honeydew Farms owned by Alex Moore. But, no matter – they are both large-scale, industrialized, environmentally damaging operations that have been given unfair advantage by the County. And, to add insult to injury, neither King nor Moore actually lives in Honeydew.

Central HumCo
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5 years ago
Reply to  RecallRexBohn

Thank you RecallRexBohn for the clarification, and for the to-no-surprise, -neither King nor Moore live in Honeydew. Uggh.

Rex Bohn – hmmm. Can a Co-Chair sign (what they sometimes erroneously refer to as. .) Minutes? Zip. Zero. Nada.

Can a Deputy Clerk of the Board sign anything of validity? For example the “Minutes”? Zip. Zero. Nada.

Fiction at its’ finest.
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What if both REX BOHN, under Oath of Office, and Deputy Clerk RYAN SHARP signed a 1-pager “Minutes” for October 2nd? This is the meeting where three people from Garberville demanded #19 be Pulled from the “Consent Calendar” for later debate. Didn’t happen.

What if, you were the only one (w/witness) at the October 15, “Special Meeting” where ALL FIVE Supes. showed up for two Agenda items. . . One – Public Forum (me). Two – CLOSED SESSION to evaluate (drum roll) John Ford, Amy the CAO, and Connie Beck, THE Director of HHRS (Health and Human Resource Services). This evidently important evaluations meeting, required all five be present – because, the October 9th meeting ended w/Closed Session, specifically for “Evaluation” of same.

And,

What if, there is no video available for the October 15th public meeting? https://humboldt.legistar.com/Calendar.aspx

What do you suppose the revenue generators don’t want the public to hear from an open-to-the-public-meeting replay of the video?

Perhaps: The California state republic Constitution i read to them? Or questions i asked?

~all the king’s horses and all the king’s men . . .

Richie Rich
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Richie Rich
5 years ago

Reality Bites!

All is wonderful that people get permitted so they feel they still have a livelihood as have not been trained to do anything else but grow weed. And for so many years all of them made so much profits and gouged so many users and Brokers so that they could have shoe boxes full of cash and go on elaborate vacations and with the bulgarians now in place spending multi millions of dollars on Ferraris and Bugattis.

America at its best. Moving forward I don’t believe much of this will be sustainable. I think that based on all of the permits and all of the counties and all of the massive square feet in acreage producing cannabis, it’s only a matter of a year or two when the numbers crash like they have in every other state. If you look at Oregon indoors at $700 an outdoor is at 300 to $500. What’s going to happen in the future in California?

What’s going to happen with the adjunct of the changing of the law or white label is no longer allowed. Can you imagine every Farms got license test to produce their own Brands and then create distribution and have enough market share with Outlets or retail or medical to actually pull a profit there’s probably 20 more brands on the shelf and there is people buying them.

The industry is definitely going into mergers and Acquisitions and consolidation over the next four years when this happens we will see who’s that standing in Humboldt but alone other counties.

Good luck to all we are everywhere

I like stars
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I like stars
5 years ago

Wait…. so all those ads on Craigslist for “fully permitted cannabis farms” aren’t on the up and up? What am I going to do with all the money that Nigerian prince’s nephew is depositing in my account?

Tailgate
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Tailgate
5 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Permits = County
License = State

Two different things.

I like stars
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I like stars
5 years ago
Reply to  Tailgate

Thanks for the info. Do you know anything about the prince? Ever since I sent my financial information I haven’t been able to get ahold of his nephew. I hope he’s alright.

Sparkle Mahn
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5 years ago
Reply to  Tailgate

Critical distinction. Thanks.

Yellow
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Yellow
5 years ago

Everyone else is dog paddling through the permit process hoping they don’t drown trying not to drink the salty water glub, glub, glub and the waters are full of sharks 🦈 but wait a light at the end of the tunnel or just another big money funnel from the hole in your pocket .

Central HumCo
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5 years ago

The error is to apply mathematical plus-and-minus values to nature, resulting in the separation of mind and body or spirit and matter, into unrelated oppositional domains.

Correction has jurisdiction over all fiction.

Jurisdiction -Latin – juris meaning “law” and dicere meaning “to speak”. The power, right, or authority to interpret, apply, and declare the law. Merrium Webster’s Dictionary of Law, 1996.

Gazoo
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Gazoo
5 years ago

“I was laying in bed with my partner”… who happens to be the gen manager of green roads… whatever it takes I guess. Just sounds funny when high AF

Anon
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Anon
5 years ago
Reply to  Gazoo

Same. Talk about going on the back door…

Chatty Cathy
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Chatty Cathy
5 years ago
Reply to  Anon

it’s just how business gets done.. greasing the palm

Central HumCo
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5 years ago

While you’re applauding control freaks without evidence for their claims, consider the following:
(the graph didn’t copy – it’s from 2011 thru 2016)

“The population percent change for Humboldt County shows it has 0.4% Population Change.” http://www.towncharts.com/California/Demographics/Humboldt-County-CA-Demographics-data.html

Compare this to The County’s 2011-2016 Administration Employees Change: 0.9%

2011 2,216
2012 2,258
2013 2,281
2014 2,281
2015 2,331
2016 2,380 https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/2016/humboldt-county/

Jennifer K Wilson PHYSICIAN/PSYCHIATRIST (X-HLP)
Humboldt County, 2016
$261,680.00 $12,127.00 $0.00 $273,807.00 $61,771.00

$335,578.00 (Total pay-O.T. & benefits)

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Yea but is she single? I could use a sugar mamma to assist with the permitting process 😉 If anything I hope she at least donates to this media outlet.

Central HumCo
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5 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

A good laugh on a Sunday morning. Thank you Legallettuce.

Tailgate
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Tailgate
5 years ago

Congratulations !!!

Guests
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Guests
5 years ago

I just love government so much! Archaeological studies means that if they find one arrowhead one your ranch/farm is history as far as licensing. How ironic is that?? Brutally wipe these people out, then think so much about an arrowhead WTF!!

Sparkle Mahn
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5 years ago
Reply to  Guests

I blame Bush, Obama, Hillary, and of course, the flaming orange President.

Central HumCo
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5 years ago
Reply to  Sparkle Mahn

I suppose in the end we’re going to have to blame ourselves. My father in-law used to remind me that, “Only the names change.”

Dirtywhiteboy
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5 years ago

“Make humboldt great again”…

Small Fry
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Small Fry
5 years ago

Lol.. so 1 farm out of like 10,000 or more in just the county is finally “permitted”..
Congratulations on your ‘white lie’ permit.. Funny how the state rushed to ‘permit’ huge monster grows… but only one legitimate state cannabis farm in the entire county.
Just wait till those big ag companies start coming online with huge hemp farms. Those big outfits will be running to the hills.. lol.. but really, all this fear about big ag.. the truth of the matter is… there aren’t a lot of supper suitable ag spots for huge cannabis farms. Most of these ag countries are extremely red, conservatives, and do not want big cannabis farms in the county. Most have profitable crops already.
And the truth of the matter is, the more the state tries to crack down on the black.. the more it rises. If the state truely wanted to curb the black.. they wouldn’t have made such huge mondo farms. That just pushes people out to the black. If they really
Wanted to curb the black, they would be working to help the little marketers thrive in state, with more easily accessible outlets. Easier permitting process. Hasn’t the state learned anything from the past. Heavy handed tactics do not work with cannabis. They cannot control it no matter how hard they try. But.. best of luck to these first permiters..hope it works out for them.

Reading Comprehension Isn’t Your Strong Suit
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Reading Comprehension Isn’t Your Strong Suit
5 years ago
Reply to  Small Fry

You missed the first sentence in the article:

“Today, a small Southern Humboldt cannabis farm, Forbidden Fruit, received the first two licenses issued for cultivators in the state of California.”

Key words… “state of California”. Not just Humboldt County.

Small Fry
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Small Fry
5 years ago

So.. huge monster grows are basically operating out of compliance, since they are operating without a state license. Since there is only one cannabis farm now permitted in the entire state. So big mono farms don’t have to wait for thier permits.. just the small people, and specifically just the hill folk of Humboldt.
Thanks anyway but.. your comment is about as valuable as a screen door on a submarine…

Maui Jim
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Maui Jim
5 years ago
Reply to  Small Fry

[edit] huge monster grows (and all others including small grows) are currently operating within compliance with State “Temporary Cultivation Licenses” while waiting for their State “Cultivation License” to be issued. Big or small… EVERYONE gets a State “Temporary Cultivation License” while waiting for their finalized State “Cultivation License”.

Gazoo
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Gazoo
5 years ago

First rule in business… never dip your pen in company ink

Wyatt
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Wyatt
5 years ago

Isn’t this a Great Country where you can make your own decisions to live how you want and where you want….. HUMBOLDT WON’T MISS YOU!

Supervisors the problem
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Supervisors the problem
5 years ago

Estelle fennel we the people of southern Humboldt despise you as a person and as a supervisor.you will never be re elected and most of the community is counting the minutes till your term runs out or till you weez your last breath.We know you gave yourselves hefty raises with our $$$$$. And you’ll milk that 6 figures as long as you can but you could do the people justice and just step down.youve destroyed many lives already and put our community heading for financial collapse and ruin You’ve done enough damage!!!!!!! Please for the sake of the PEOPLE see yourself for what you REALLY are and realize that you were not meant to represent ANYONE !!!!!!

Emily
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Emily
5 years ago

No one has taken issue with This point, which is really pertinent and really sums up one part of the situation: every licensed farm is still selling to the black market.

Fox in the hen house
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Fox in the hen house
5 years ago
Reply to  Emily

You are absolutely correct Emily ,if the tax was on how much was grown and sold instead of square footage you’d bet your ass the county would be inspecting more often and want proof of amount and sales.They can’t sell on the legal market though because they can’t control the bugs and mildew issues legally, the county knew that from the start that’s why they tax square footage per year instead, so now they don’t give a rats ass how much was grown or where it was sold

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