Three Search Warrants, Two Water Diversions, 4,671 Marijuana Plants, 255 Pounds Dry Found at Whitethorn Illegal Grows on Wednesday

Greenhouse marijuana HCSO

Marijuana close to harvest being cultivated illegally in a greenhouse found near Whitethorn Wednesday. [Crop of a photo provided by the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office.]


Press release from the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office:

On Sept. 26, 2018, deputies with the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office Drug Enforcement Unit (DEU) served three search warrants to investigate illegal cannabis cultivation in the Whitethorn area. The California Department of Fish and Wildlife, the Humboldt County Environmental Health and HAZMAT Unit, the California State Water Board and the Humboldt County Planning and Building Department assisted in the service of the warrant.

The parcels investigated were located in the Bridge Creek Upper Mattole watershed and did not possess the required county permit and state license to cultivate cannabis commercially.
During the service of the warrants, deputies eradicated approximately 4,671 growing cannabis plants. Deputies seized and destroyed over 255 pounds of drying cannabis. Deputies also discovered evidence of a butane hash oil lab.

Assisting agencies found the following violations:
– Two water diversion violations (up to $8,000 fine per day, per violation)
– Eight stream crossing violations (up to $8,000 fine per day, per violation)
– Two streambed alteration violations (up to $8,000 fine per day, per violation)
– Seven water pollution violations (up to $20,000 fine per day, per violation)
– Four depositing trash in or near a waterway violations (up to $20,000 fine per day, per violation)
– Failure to label hazardous waste violation (up to $70,000 fine per day, per violation)
– Failure to close hazardous waste containers violation (up to $70,000 fine per day, per violation)
– Failure to establish a Hazardous Materials Business Plan violation (up to $5,000 fine per day, per violation)
– Commercial cannabis ordinance violations (up to $10,000 fine per day, per violation)
– Grading without a permit violations (up to $10,000 fine per day, per violation)
– Building without a permit violations (up to $10,000 fine per day, per violation)
– Failure to report waste discharge into waters of the state violations (up to $1,000 fine per day, per violation)
– Discharging waste without a permit violations ($5,000-$10,000 fine per day, per violation)
– Dredging/Filling without a permit violations ($5,000-$10,000 fine per day, per violation)
– Streamside management violations
– Sewage violations
– Junk cars violations

Additional violations with civil fines are expected to be filed by the assisting agencies.

No arrests were made during the service of the warrants.

Anyone with information about this case or related criminal activity is encouraged to call the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office at (707) 445-7251 or the Sheriff’s Office Crime Tip line at (707) 268-2539.Marijuana bust

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Scooter
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Scooter
5 years ago

You just can’t hide 5000 plants like you used to.

LostCoastEMT
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LostCoastEMT
5 years ago
Reply to  Scooter

1/1000 chances of getting actually busted or making a million dollars?

That sauce
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That sauce
5 years ago
Reply to  LostCoastEMT

😂lmfao of at “making a million dollars” have you Asked around what prices are at these days?

Seek the truth
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Seek the truth
5 years ago
Reply to  Scooter

Sounds to me like all agencies make this stuff up……. I want to see proof that growing cannabis causes all the problems that this greedy ass county said it does. Why now why the big push to eradicate, why the major fines now. Why all the stupid codes, not laws, code violations. My favorite is being denied because your road is not up to code! ……. “In other countries they drive on the left side of the road, here in humboldt you drive on what’s left of the road.”….. Fix the roads before more people die. It’s not cannabis killing people, it’s our roads!! Our kids are on these roads in a bus in all weather, and the county won’t fix the roads, but they can sure spend tons of money on getting a plant that actually helps people. Whether you cannabis haters like it or not. ………..

Don't divert during summer!
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Don't divert during summer!
5 years ago
Reply to  Seek the truth

Seek the truth -the fact people are actively diverting water to grow when the mattole river is drying up is reason enough in my opinion to be fined ! the upper mattole river has been designated as a Huc-12 watershed . expect major enforcement going forward.

barn owl
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barn owl
5 years ago

Bridge Creek is vital to the health of the upper Mattole River. Anyone who is pumping water at this critical time is threatening the river, which is already in crisis. That photo of the black water tank is infuriating. I am glad they were stopped.

bearjew
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bearjew
5 years ago

The whole rest of the world gave up on the environment decades ago. Only here, where one group of environmenrtalist hippies attack another group of hippies does anyone care. Unfortunate but true. Maybe you should unite with the hillbilly hippies instead of dividing and conquering yourselves? Are the logging mega-corporations or big oil your friends? Well, Halliburton owns a permit to grow… FYI the plant is the plant is the plant. Legal or not, it’s the same thing.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago

Yes I agree taking from the river is wrong and those that do should be punished. If I can capture enough water to grow no excuses for others in my opinion. Back in the day if we heard a generator or pump near a river someone was gonna get roughed up we called it a teachable moment, lol

LostCoastEMT
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LostCoastEMT
5 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Back in the day hippys didn’t use generators?Lmao. Whatever! I grew up raised by hippys. Everyone of them had a generator of some sort for power

guest
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guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Seek the truth

No money, no good roads. Grow scenes are not paying their fair share of taxes. Tweeker trimmers are not paying their fair share of taxes. Don’t blame the county for doing exactly what they need to do – eradicate criminals and collect fines.

How does one fix the roads in a county with an overwhelming number of tax cheats?

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

You mean that Humboldt Co has taken more in property taxes due to inflated property values. They have to take to get back. Transportation, the parts which come from general revenue rather than sales, property and excise taxes, are only about 2% of the State budget. The two biggest items in the California budget paid from income taxes are schools and health care.

I kind of wonder how many pot growers have been using Medical and now will find their now recorded income makes them ineligible. It’s hard to get a sense of how much that happens. I only know one person whose income comes from pot grows and their child do get it but that is a very small sample to read much into.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Honestly Guest I would suspect in your mind that most pot growers manipulate and rape the medi-cal system by extorting billions. In my mind politicians and corporations extort billions from pot growers, let’s just call it even and let the kid get health care.

Now you know two pot growers.

guest
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guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym, you are 100% correct. Thanks for the correction.

diane
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5 years ago
Reply to  Seek the truth

how about the rest of the public actually works for a living and follows laws. Growers should have made their money growing illegally for the last 50 years of no rules or taxes. they’re greedy turds.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago
Reply to  diane

I Grow and had a successful professional carreer paid taxes including property taxes. Most of my growing neighbors have doctorates and hold professional positions and pay taxes.

I am confused at why you think we do not pay taxes. Law abiding are you really, hmm, I doubt you have abided by all laws. Please leave the real world to those that live it your fast food is probably getting cold.

Ann D.
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Ann D.
5 years ago
Reply to  Seek the truth

“Why now the big push to eradicate?”
Bruh, you should’ve been here in the 80’s and 90’s youd’ve seen a big push. It was called camp and I’m sure there’s plenty here in addition to me that could school you in what it was like living in an actual war zone when the downsides were jackbooted Gestopo storm troopers dropping out of military choppers into your patch with M-16’s and real, big boy jail sentences, not threatening letters and fines. Signed with sad face emojis.. not a fan of the current or any of the methods they’ve used to try to eradicate a flower but honestly, why now a chipper and a few trucks and letters and fines? Because thanks to today’s technology, now they can.. whereas before they couldn’t..

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann D.

Fμ©€ CAMP!!!

LostCoastEMT
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LostCoastEMT
5 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

The campaign against marijuana planting is long gone. It died in the 90s. Now they send u a threating letter, and you CAMP yourself! No need for helicopters anymore 🤣

Larry
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Larry
5 years ago
Reply to  Seek the truth

What do they do with all this tax money and what they get from all the code violations? It’s like let’s legalize gambling so we can better fund schools and nothing ever materializes. Could thing get anymore f…..d up?

bearjew
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bearjew
5 years ago
Reply to  Larry

they’re shady politicians so my guess is most of the money goes to hookers n blow…

S. M. Archer
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S. M. Archer
5 years ago
Reply to  Scooter

Dooood they gots LIDAR that can see the DNA of your plants through lead. Its like a Superman eye box. Need to go underground, deep underground.

Adopted By Thorn
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Adopted By Thorn
5 years ago

I like the tarp pulling set up they have. It’s pretty sweet.

Redwood Dan
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Redwood Dan
5 years ago

Well that’s only $505,000 per day if they don’t come into the planning department for a friendly little chat. Pretty manageable, I bet they get it cleaned up in 10 days no problem. Last I heard, John Ford said that were18 properties beginning the lien process, and 8 of tose property owners have finally reached out to them to try and resolve it. “The last thing we want to do is take your property.”

Connie Dobbs
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Connie Dobbs
5 years ago
Reply to  Redwood Dan

They can only take your property once; your money they can take every year for the rest of your life.

LostCoastEMT
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LostCoastEMT
5 years ago
Reply to  Connie Dobbs

True dat Connie!

Y Knot?
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Y Knot?
5 years ago
Reply to  Connie Dobbs

Even tougher when the fallout settles with a real job….

Very easy to touch those on open books.

Spotted owl.
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5 years ago

Hate to say it but these places are the ones who are ruining it for mom and pops,and more modest environmentaly conscious folks.people need to focus on the fact that there is someone sitting on a computer scanning our neighborhoods with spy cameras looking for places like this. On another note listened to Ed densons show last night on kmud sounded hopeful that change could be coming.we need to chime in and lend Shakti and encimer a hand.the first step is to REALLY take this RECALL thing seriously.these supervisors have one objective to rob us and destroy our community!!!! Estelle fennel the president of sucking every last penny out of weed for the state!!! What a treasonous little weasel to her constituents.uuuhhhhhkkkkk!!!!!!!!

Jc
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Jc
5 years ago
Reply to  Spotted owl.

The only thing worse than the cops chipping away is the tweekers stealing it away. Both are a major problem

me
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me
5 years ago
Reply to  Spotted owl.

Screw the environment huh? Sucking your illegal money huh. Well welcome to adult hood. The pot growers have destroyed the community not the cops. Gee to bad you will have to do things right for once. The rules apply to everyone including you and your fellow pot growers. You voted for the liberal socialist way of life now live with it.

chasi
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chasi
5 years ago
Reply to  me

“Liberal socialism”? Grow up, maybe read a book. These greedsters are Pure Capitalists, my friend. DC and Hurwitz would be proud.

LostCoastEMT
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LostCoastEMT
5 years ago
Reply to  me

Fyi. Rules have and never will apply to pot growers.(sic). A lot of these pot growers you talk about are capitalists who are taking advantage of free market and getting as much money as possible in a short amount of time, all the while squashing the competition. Sound familiar? No different than a lot of envorment destroying legal companies out there. Welcome to the good ol USA!

diane
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5 years ago
Reply to  me

well said !!!

Larry
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Larry
5 years ago
Reply to  me

Well said bro they got what they wished for and the raids keep on coming.

at a loss
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at a loss
5 years ago
Reply to  Spotted owl.

Sorry laws and rules apply to everyone. Welcome to the real world.

Dan F
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Dan F
5 years ago
Reply to  Spotted owl.

I, for one, am ALL for a recall especially of “Estelle Fentanyl” the sooner the better the ONLY thing she is good for is Lip Service!!!! She’ll tell you whatever it is she thinks you want to hear & then go back to what she has been doing all along!!!! That would be WTF ever she damned well wants to do in spite of criticism from her constituents!!!!

I left my trolling motor in El Segundo
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I left my trolling motor in El Segundo
5 years ago
Reply to  Dan F

Estelle is making Humboldt a better place to live. Send the grow bros packing.

local observer
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local observer
5 years ago

if living in a trailer park is your thing then yes it will be a better place to live. now I know while some local big players have been buying up trailer parks. and Danco Communities, do you really think a “friggin winner” like dan is doing for the good of humanity?

Thatsmybike
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Thatsmybike
5 years ago
Reply to  Dan F

Dan, you just quoted websters definition of a politician

Alt right the turd reich
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Alt right the turd reich
5 years ago
Reply to  Spotted owl.

That is a mom and pop grow. Look out how small the plants are… Also they only have one water tank from the pictures. Where do you people come from in the comment section? You certainly are not locals

LostCoastEMT
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LostCoastEMT
5 years ago

So what your saying is only 10 out of 10,000 property’s who got abatement letters are looking at possibly getting fines? Sounds like scare tactics to me. Non-legal and unpunishable scare tactics. Well….. you can always replant next year! …… and the war continues.

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago

Please, HCSO:

Pictures of sheds with stuff stored in them, messy or not, is useless. It’s not illegal to use a space for storage. We all do it, including your deputies.

Keep to the pot. Try to be professional.

Or, why don’t you take pictures of their dirty underwear too, one by one, so we can become a more idiotic emotionally wrecked society.

J
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J
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

I like knowing wether or not they where using organic stuff to grow, it shows the character of the grower just like the stream diversion and trash piles does. Decent humans don’t do those three things. What’s funny is how much you trip on them including the pic. Calm down, there are starving kids in your county and your tripping on shed pics.

local observer
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local observer
5 years ago
Reply to  J

falsehoods are the greatest danger to society, its even in the bible. and right now the US is engulfed in it. most of what we see from these raids are falsehoods. if it was all this bad, what’s the difference being raided at different times of the year – no bounty. I would think there would be more violations in the rainy season with turbidity, mobilization of hydrocarbons, etc.

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  J

Organic doesn’t mean good any more than permitted means knowledge.

Its all money and fees. The difference, legally, of natural and artificial when used by food producers is not what you would expect from those two very different words.

Cool that you like the shed pic, but i doubt they took it to show you what nutrients are being used.

Its really useless. Will they use that pic in court? No. Why? Because it’s pointless. I dont waste money, and I’d like it if our officials didn’t either.

Im not wigging out here bud. Just stating a thought.

I like stars
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I like stars
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

How much money do you think was wasted in the process of taking a digital image and attaching it to the press release?

I’d guess it amounts to pennies.

Shocked
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Shocked
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Extreme ignorance in the neck of the woods
Those pics of the shed clearly have violations
Spilling hazardous materials
No secondary containment
Zero signs
no literature for the workers to no what they are handling and how to control discharge
There is black mold growing on old trash and the walls
Brian would allow his and others children in there I’m sure

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  Shocked

Why make it personal?

I dont see anything illegal there. I keep a tidier shed and house. Filth is not my style. I dont have kids and if I did I would not let them near 99% of the permitted or unpermitted weed farms.

Thanks shocked, you remind me why I dont like most people.

*The black mold might be on your screen, because there ain’t any in the shed pic! No, you actually can see drawings of where tools used to hang.

Guest 2
Guest
Guest 2
5 years ago
Reply to  Shocked

You are full of it Shocked none of what you say appears in those pictures . You must be part of the eradication team that makes all this crap up in the first place . Your just jealous some people are working hard and making money and your sitting on your butt making up lies . Get a life . And you want to talk about ignorance you are the definition of ignorance .

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Maybe it IDs inappropriate chemical use.

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Good thought, but the only violation that would fit is the “failure to close hazardous waste containers”…
In the shed everything is closed except for their foliar sprayer…

local observer
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local observer
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

they probably have open 5 gallon buckets of used oil from the geni and some spent filters.

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  local observer

Maybe they do, but is that in the picture?

Then what is the pic for?

Guest 2
Guest
Guest 2
5 years ago
Reply to  local observer

Who’s garden shed doesn’t have something hazardous in it . That’s what there for to store oil, tools, gasoline , equipment , coolant , chainsaws , weedwackers , fertilizer , in the city most have miracle gro, all this would be in the average tool shed in the middle of a city with close neighbors . But to push the anti pot agenda people are willing literally make stuff up to push there agenda . It’s pathetic . Like people who make up lies are pathetic.

rivi
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rivi
5 years ago
Reply to  Guest 2

Store your hazardous material properly. That scene is a mess.

Puzzling why someone used to have 4 hacksaws and a bow saw hanging on the wall. Check for body parts under that shed.

local observer
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local observer
5 years ago
Reply to  rivi

do you think the growers built that shed? most of these properties have had historical use and historical contamination. the AST has a secondary containment. the only viable leaking container in the shed is the primer and my 5-gallon bucket of primer looks no different.

local observer
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local observer
5 years ago
Reply to  Guest 2

the problem with leaving used oil out with no lid is that rainwater purges the oil out due to it being lighter than water. when you change the oil every 100 hours one tends to accumulate many 5 gallon buckets full of used oil and sometimes use empty fert jugs because they run out of buckets. at least the fert jugs have threaded caps.

LostCoastEMT
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LostCoastEMT
5 years ago
Reply to  local observer

5 gals of oil a day at eel river disposal . And it’s free! No excuse

local observer
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local observer
5 years ago
Reply to  LostCoastEMT

15 gallons per day in Eureka for free, they remove it out of the bed/trunk. no questions/paperwork except “what is it” and as long as it isn’t radioactive waste its all good. I use to bring waste gas, but now I buy pure gas at renner and that stuff last 2 years. the log splitter fired up with one pull and the gas was 1.5 years old. its worth the $6/gallon.

Spotted owl.
Guest
5 years ago

Laws were made to be broken, And shitty ones that the MAJORITY can’t stand can be changed!!!!! Let’s fuc$1n change prop 64. This is not what we voted for or want. Gavin newsom you weasel!!???! Huffman,mcguire,woods,fenelle,bone, the voters and the people have the final say at the end of the day!!!?

J
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J
5 years ago
Reply to  Spotted owl.

Lol, laws were made to be broken? So murder and robbery are okay with you? And you have no problem with someone breaking those laws to come get your illegal garden? Hahahaha, weird.

THC
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THC
5 years ago
Reply to  Spotted owl.

The voters should of actually took some time and read what the fuck they were voting on. Many of us saw the writing on the wall.
Even without the strong handed regulation, legalizing marijuana is going to cause more overproduction which will lower it’s value, it’s not rocket surgery. If the stupidvisors we’re smart, they would back off and allow the market to sink itself. That way they might be able to keep their jobs and not be politically lynched by a mob of angry growsteaders. What truly worries me is if and when they start using these regulations to go after rule property owners that don’t grow pot, which quite a few have already been mixed up in this abatement klusterfuk.

weedageddon
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weedageddon
5 years ago
Reply to  THC

Most of the people who voted yes on 64 were not growing pot. They were people who wanted pot to be legal so that it could be taxed, the quality regulated, better pricing for consumers, and the end of the black market providing money for criminals. Most voters did not give a rat’s ass about the economic future of the weed growing criminals. And they still don’t.

The black market will sink all by itself in due time. The HCSO is just speeding up the process and making some coin for the county at the same time. Making the

Spotted owl.
Guest
5 years ago

No murder and robbery are morally wrong.robbery is abatement letters!!!!!

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Spotted owl.

Dear Spotted owl: to respond to a particular comment, start with hitting “reply” directly under the comment. If you just post under “leave a reply” , it is disconnected from the one to which you are responding and will be harder to understand.

Corey
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Corey
5 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Its pretty easy to connect the two. Not a lot of people here are comparing murder to growing reefer.

Citizen Too
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Citizen Too
5 years ago

“– Junk cars violations”

Many, many junk car violations in my neighborhood here in McKinelyville. When is the County going to enforce the Codes here???

Incorporate McKinleyville NOW !!!!

local observer
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local observer
5 years ago
Reply to  Citizen Too

80% of the fringe properties in MCK are worse than these grow sites when it comes to haz mat violations.

reasonable people not in a uniform
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reasonable people not in a uniform
5 years ago
Reply to  Citizen Too

They could probably overlook the junk cars if they weren’t dumped next to 4600 illegal pot plants. Cops love to pile on the up-sells.

local observer
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local observer
5 years ago

junked cars and chop shops are the greatest threat to water quality in rural communities. spraying hardwoods with 2,4-D is the greatest threat to water quality in rural timberlands. SoHum is a combo of the two.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
5 years ago
Reply to  local observer

Just drove through Arcata today and saw someone spraying a little hillside off of Alliance with 2,4-D about 50ft from where Jacoby Creek goes under the road, and not 10ft from peoples’ houses. I guess its ok since on one is on a well?

I like stars too!
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I like stars too!
5 years ago

I have to say, I’m curious about a few things:

1) How much time does it take to plant 5000 plants?
2) How many people does it take to pinch 5000 plants?
3) Has 1 cent of ANY of the “fines” EVER been collected?
4) Why is no one EVER arrested at these sites?
5) WHO owns these properties?
6) Since each plant makes 1-3 pounds of flowers, what is the income potential here? How much would it cost to get permits and operate legally?
7) What is the cost of legal production, by the pound of flower?
8) Is there actually a market for thousands of pounds?
9) How many humongous grows ARE there? Are any of them fully compliant?

Thanks for the information!

warrens buffet
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warrens buffet
5 years ago

42!

groba dude trustafarian osnt
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groba dude trustafarian osnt
5 years ago
Reply to  warrens buffet

Is that how many tweakers it takes to change a lightbulb?

41 to hold the fixture still, and one to drop the lightbulb.

warrens buffet
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warrens buffet
5 years ago

No mon, 42 is the answer to everything.

local observer
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local observer
5 years ago
Reply to  warrens buffet

don’t forget your towel.

Scooter
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Scooter
5 years ago

Those aint the 1-3 pounders that you want them to be. That is a short term crop probably put in in July after the light dep was harvested. those are probably 2 ouncers.

Potmation
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Potmation
5 years ago

7. $200–$600 for outs.

Mostly labor cost. Labor efficiency drives per unit labor cost.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago

lol, I will take a stab at it.

1. To vague a question to answer. I amend my soil this takes a minimum of 8 weeks and is turned twice a week. Soil is layered for veg and flower done properly you can figure 10 minutes per plant per area.

2. 1 body per 500 to 1000 plants is a manageable ratio.

3. No, lol.

4. Slow convoy with fish a wildlife personal giving tour guide announcements to law enforcement personnel of local wildlife.

5. People like me.

6. lol, 1 to 3 pounds and we all have a huge penis as well, lol. Those are nice buds but let’s be real here they are only getting a couple of ounces per plant. Still 5000 divided by 8 is a nice pull but reality is more like 300 to 600 pounds.

7. This is your first legitimate question. I can only say for myself but legal with taxes paid my cost per pot is around 300 to grow to maturity. Trim it up, package, get it ready for market then more taxes and we are around 500 per pot. I average a little over a pound according to state documentation ;-).

8. According to rumor of course, lol, yes and not just in this state or country.

9. A whole lotta but the permitting process sucks ass. Not as many as the previous statement but yes many collectives in the state operating efficiently the state website has them all.

I like stars too!
Guest
I like stars too!
5 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Thanks for your thoughtful reply. Seems like a tough living, but aren’t they all.

It seems idiotic to “fine” these sites if you can escape the fine by becoming compliant, but then speeders will speed until their license is taken away and they can’t afford the insurance!

Once again, growing in remote counties of Northern CA seems very risky, at best, and as laws are being enforced, it appears to be a big fucking pain in the ass, in many ways.

Hard to believe that your “to market” prices support the whole operation, even at these volumes.

Thanks for being patient with an outsider. I was involved in a business which was regulated and controlled by government to the point of bankruptcy, so I feel for you.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago

You are most welcome. I love the plant is the truth. The money comes and it goes as with any profession. The plants native habitat is the mountains of Afghanistan which is the same latitude as Humboldt County and I am a firm believer grows better here than any location.

I drove down the road in my pickup with a load of plants this summer visable to everyone. I passed a few cops on my way and yes I white knuckled but nothing happened. This would of been unheard of or unimaginable when I was younger. Times have definitely changed and I look forward to legality. That being said I would start my rant about all the red tape but today the county approved our interim permit as a micro-business. So, “forward through the fog” an old friend of mine would say.

Potmation
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Potmation
5 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Legallettuce how are you doing $200 for trimming and tax? Tax alone is $148.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago
Reply to  Potmation

I added the permit cost and square footage tax to the initial pot cost of 300 per pot. I added trimming cost and per pound dry tax that raises it to around 500 per pot.

I assume the dry tax because currently the grower is responsible even though the distributor is supposed to pay. So I asked how am I supposed to know if the distributor paid the taxes. I got a shrugged shoulder and a deep stare, no response, seriously. So, If the distributor does not pay the tax it falls to the grower according to the state.

Potmation
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Potmation
5 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

The state doesn’t come after the cultivator.

Cultivator pays tax to distributor at contractually agreed upon time. Distributor sends cultivator receipt for the tax.

CDTFA (California Department of Tax and Fee Administration) makes the distributor pay taxes owed on time or face a 50% penalty. Recouping cultivator tax later due to error is the distributor’s responsibility.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago
Reply to  Potmation

Check into it I did. If the distributor collects the tax but does not pay the tax to the state the grower is responsible. Make sure you sign a contract with the distributor and specify the distributor collected the tax and is to pay the state the said tax.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago
Reply to  Potmation

K, so I might be off as you say. If tax is by the ounce and not by the pound. Just found out but have not looked it up, if so, then a little over 600 per pot.

Yogini
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Yogini
5 years ago

Word is the Supervisors are trying to drive out the cannabis farmers and drive the property values down so property can be picked up cheaply by loggers to log again…it’s been decades since alot of our local properties have been cut

clean it up
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clean it up
5 years ago
Reply to  Yogini

😂, word is, it’s people like “yogi” that want to continue with their distructive growing practices because they know They won’t meet any environmental standards to become legal, that are putting this piece of propaganda out hahaha.

Spotted owl.
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5 years ago

We need to drive out the supervisors!!!! Thank you Shakti,and Paul and everyone else working on bringing those DESTROYING are community to morale justice

Look in the mirror
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Look in the mirror
5 years ago
Reply to  Spotted owl.

“spotted owl” you want to blame Fennel and others for ( probably you ) not being able to grow marijuana with the shittiest of practices and without a permit.
You have nothing to say about all of these busts documenting with PHOTOS, incredibly “shitty destructive Practices “ that are destructive to the environment, animals and other habitat ( like your neighbors’)
I feel sorry for your land , the animals that live there AND your neighbors because
it’s people like YOU that have been DESTROYING our environment AND our community.

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Spotted owl.

“spotted owl” you want to blame Fennel and others for ( probably you ) not being able to grow marijuana with the shittiest of practices and without a permit.
You have nothing to say about all of these busts documenting with PHOTOS, incredibly “shitty destructive Practices “ that are destructive to the environment, animals and other habitat ( like your neighbors’)
I feel sorry for your land , the animals that live there AND your neighbors because
it’s people like YOU that have been DESTROYING our environment AND our community.

Helllbilly
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Helllbilly
5 years ago

“If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.” Thomas Jefferson

popcorn
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popcorn
5 years ago
Reply to  Helllbilly

Easy for Tom to say when everyone had the same 50 cal musket. There were no black helicopters, wiretaps, and private prisons in the 1770s.

LostCoastEMT
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LostCoastEMT
5 years ago

“ Laws and rules without punishment are only guidelines for manipulation.”

( Me )

Spotted owl.
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5 years ago

All our forefathers were insubordinate,any great person in history was.looks like the emerald triangle is full of great people!!!!!

Potmation
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Potmation
5 years ago

Thirteen pencil outlines planning to hang tools on wall (up to $5,000 per day, per violation)

Six plants with bud rot (up to $7,500 per day, per violation)

One duct tape repair on leaky water tank (up to $8,000 per day, per violation)

One gallon VF-11 nutes that don’t work (up to $70,000 per day, per violation)

One case beer unfit for human consumption (up to $100,000 per day, per violation)

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  Potmation

Your comment: Priceless.

Thanks for a good laugh!

Stinky Wizzleteats
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Stinky Wizzleteats
5 years ago

Hoo be the owner of dat lands ?

Taurusballzhoff
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Taurusballzhoff
5 years ago

Goodness! There are RULES here! Have some tolerance!

These are not just policies, they are enforced!

Please, make a note of it. Don’t be rude, have some integrity!

Float valve 25$
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Float valve 25$
5 years ago

I’ve seen some hokey water tank modifications, but ferns???