Stealing Succulents Sucks, Says CDFW, So They Arrest Two Korean Nationals and One Chinese National

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Succulents [Photo provided by the Department of Fish and Wildlife]

Press release from the California Department of Fish and Wildlife:

California Department of Fish and Wildlife (CDFW) officers have made another arrest this week in their ongoing battle against a rising poaching trend on the north coast of northern California with international connections.

CDFW arrested Taehun Kim, 52, and Taeyun Kim, 46, both of Korea, and Liu Fengxia, 37, of China for poaching over 2,300 Dudleya succulent plants near Trinidad in Humboldt County. Charges include illegal take of the plants and felony conspiracy, among others.

Poachers profit financially from the illegal take of Dudleya by stripping plants from sea cliffs and shipping them overseas to other countries, including Korea, China and Japan, where they are prized by some for decorative purposes. On April 4, wildlife officers intercepted and seized 1,334 of the plants in boxes on their way to be shipped overseas. An additional 1,000 Dudleya were found in the suspects’ hotel room during the service of the search warrant. The overseas market value of the plants is between $40 to $50 per plant, resulting in a conservative value estimate of over $90,000.

The removal of Dudleya can result in environmental degradation of habitat and a destabilization of bluffs and cliffs on the coastline. Illegal harvesting is also alarming because California hosts a number of Dudleya species and subspecies that are rare or at risk of extinction.

CDFW enforcement initially identified this trend earlier this year, in part, after determining that a man was shipping Dudleya out of a Mendocino post office to China.

In recent months near Point Arena, Mendocino County, wildlife officers cited three individuals for a series of misdemeanor violations including illegal take and trespassing. The charges were elevated by the Mendocino District Attorney to felony conspiracy and grand theft, based upon the value of stolen plants.

On Jan. 29, one man was apprehended with approximately 50 succulents, and on March 6, two men were cited after being apprehended with 1,400 succulents. The individual in the January incident pleaded guilty to the illegal take of plants and received a sentence that included three years of probation, a $5,000 fine and 240 hours of community service. The March case is pending.

“We have seen a remarkable amount of concern over this from botanists and the public alike,” said David Bess, CDFW Deputy Director and Chief of Law Enforcement. “A public tip started this investigation and ultimately uncovered an international conspiracy to poach Dudleya succulents and ship them overseas for profit. A critical part of the Department’s mission is to protect and manage California’s diverse fish, wildlife and plant resources, and the habitats upon which they depend, for their ecological values and for their use and enjoyment by the public.”

Law enforcement personnel from the U.S. Postal Service, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and East Bay Regional Parks, in addition to representatives of the California Native Plant Society (CNPS), U.C. Santa Cruz Botany Department and local citizens, assisted with the investigation. CDFW personnel have replanted the seized succulents in the areas where taken whenever possible with assistance from CNPS and U.C. Santa Cruz botany experts.

Anyone who believes they are witness to unlawful poaching or pollution activity is encouraged to call CalTIP, CDFW’s confidential secret witness program, at (888) 334-2258 or send a text to tip411. Both methods allow the public to provide wildlife officers with factual information to assist with investigations. Callers may remain anonymous, if desired, and a reward can result from successful capture and prosecution.

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Freedom Club
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Freedom Club
5 years ago

Hmmmmm, gave up on the abalone game?

Dimsum bulshiz
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Dimsum bulshiz
5 years ago
Reply to  Freedom Club

When they aren’t growing weed in the summer the Asian community is poaching all sorts of shit in the winter

Freedom Club
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Freedom Club
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

My guess would be that when people don’t fully understand a foreign culture they tend to lump those people all together. You have to admit though that the fact so many Asian folks get busted poaching abs is more than just a statistical anomaly. I have heard many people throughout the world lump us all together as “stupid Americans”. I personally don’t take much offense when I hear it.

Perspective
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Perspective
5 years ago
Reply to  Freedom Club

Not only “so many asians”, but the quantity of what they poach. White folk will pop a short ab or maybe one over and call it a day. The other groups have no limit. Or, if you are F$G, you just take what you want.

Old mendo fart
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Old mendo fart
5 years ago
Reply to  Perspective

Not so on the “one one over and call it a day” thing. The largest abalone poaching haul (468 abs) was done by a couple of white guys named Kurt Ward and Joshua Holt, in 2004. They were selling it in Mexico. There have been lot’s of poaching cases since then that involved whites, or were whites and Asians partnered up.

For Real
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For Real
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Because white American citizen’s don’t steal succulents and foreigners do for profit?

CoastalCacti
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CoastalCacti
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I have seen pictures posted on social media of White Americans stealing Dudleya Succulents they found growing, then bragging about it. Stealing is stealing, no matter your nationality, no matter the amount.

707prius
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707prius
5 years ago
Reply to  For Real

It was the asians who clearcut the old growth redwood forests?
People do bad things for money regardless of age, sex, ethnicity.

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Well for one, they are not even citizens of our hypothetical nation called America?

ernestine
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ernestine
5 years ago
Reply to  Canyon oak

Oh canyon oak, You weren’t a citizen anywhere when your ignorant granddaddy started killing the people who were here, and taking their land. So now you’re a citizen?? no, you are the descendant of an original Indian killer. You should be deported for your historical guilt, and your land and assets given to the descendants of its rightful owner.

Or .you could get a clue. whichever

CA
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CA
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Ah, welcome to the USA in 2018 Kym!

Peter
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Peter
5 years ago

wow, if it ain’t red hot or nailed down, its going bye bye

festes haggins
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festes haggins
5 years ago

Last ones they caught where fined $5000, the plants are worth $90,000, Boy I am sure that will teach them not to poach our stuff. Build the wall out into the ocean to keep the illegal asians out also!

Roy
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Roy
5 years ago
Reply to  festes haggins

If you really believe that thumb sized succulents are selling for $50 en masse, I’ve got a bridge between Rio Dell and Scotia you might be interested in buying.

Mike
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Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Roy

I’m not sure I could afford the maintenance on that bridge as it needs repainting every couple of years.

fuckwalterwhite.com
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fuckwalterwhite.com
5 years ago
Reply to  Roy

A thumb-sized succulent turns into a tennis ball pretty quick. Grows way faster than weed.

Norberto
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Norberto
5 years ago
Reply to  festes haggins

90,000 was the estimated value given to the Case in April where 2334 succulents. The 5000 dollar fee was in response to the Case in January where a man stole 50 for a value of 2000-2500, so I would say it was an adequate deterrent in addition to the 250hrs of community service

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
5 years ago

Another point against cultural diversity

Norberto
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Norberto
5 years ago
Reply to  Canyon oak

White Americans have done something equivalent to this or worse. [edit]

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Norberto

So you prefer no cultural diversity either?

Conservative Stupidity
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Conservative Stupidity
5 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Simple.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
5 years ago

I still don’t see why someone doesn’t just start a big nursery in asia, if they’re in such high demand. Usually you see poaching like this for things that are illegal, not for things you can grow by the acre perfectly legally.

Hillbilly
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Hillbilly
5 years ago

Won’t be able to rape and pillage the abs anymore so now there on to another resource, F-ing low life’s!!!

small minded humboldt entitlement
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small minded humboldt entitlement
5 years ago
Reply to  Hillbilly

Yeah- damn foreigners.
Not like the Humboldt “pioneers” who came and raped & pillaged & viciously, violently murdered the original Yurok /Wiyot people here within the last 100 years. (See- wiyot massacre, see attacking of hoopa coming of age ceremonies, see garbage dumped on Trinidad village until all elders forced out, see Humboldt vigilantes out of Hydesville top secret group of men who decided to try to murder all the wiyot on the island).

And not like the OTHER “pioneers” who then raped and pillaged the redwoods, or the “pioneers” who raped and pillaged the hills with their shitty weed growing tech (non salmon safe garbage pesticide crapholes- not all, but many!)

A bunch of them, and their descendents surely, on here whining about “foreigners” succulent theft. Deal with your grandpa who killed elders, women, children, etc. Then you can complain about the “foreigners raping the succulents”

Humboldt’s been getting raped and pillaged by everyone ever since the first peoples lost control over the land. As each industry has died out, desperate people take whatever they can yield from this place. Yurok had an established village in Trinidad for thousands of years, they didn’t trash it, Whites have in the past 100.

But, damn these foreign Asians.

Succulent theft sucks.
But so do you.

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago

As do you too. Every human group does just as much thieving from the earth as their technology allows. Being unable to do worse is not the same as choosing to do better. Look up Crow Creek Massacre, Pontiac’s Rebellion School Massacre, Sacred Ridge Pithouse, Native Burning to expand grass land, Wooly Mammoth extinction, etc.

Read more, talk less.

Mike
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Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Guest

You’re not allowed to talk about Native Americans massacring other Native Americans and their killing of elders, women, children, etc. Those don’t count anymore.

Conservative Stupidity
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Conservative Stupidity
5 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Arrogant. Typical for the simple minded

Mike
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Mike
5 years ago

Inaccurate blanket statement typical of the new radical liberal left, what are you tired of throwing out racist and nazi every time?

small minded humboldt entitlement
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small minded humboldt entitlement
5 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Read about how sustainably the local tribes lived prior to contact. They managed // stewarded the land for ages prior to contact.

Anon Forrest
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5 years ago

NO plant is easier or quicker to root from a single leaf than a succulent. The stupidity of this crime is astounding.

Theworldneedspeace
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Theworldneedspeace
5 years ago
Reply to  Anon Forrest

They will strip the whole plants down, leaving a leaf or two. Making dozens of new ones from a single plant. So the estimated 90,000$ is a drop in the bucket compared to the real price of say…20,000 new succulents from those 2,400 plants. It destroys the landscape ripping them out, and it will stock a massive greenhouse in just a few months time. Bad deal, no matter who is poaching.

CoastalCacti
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CoastalCacti
5 years ago
Reply to  Anon Forrest

Dudleya cannot be propagated by leaves. They must be propagated by cuttings or seeds. These plants are very slow growers as succulents go. These Dudleya were not growing there for months, or even years. More like decades and centuries. It is very sad and selfish others would degrade our beautiful coast for profit.

Mogtx
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5 years ago

Great now we’re have every tweaked zombie in Humboldt County are gonna be stealing those plants they ain’t got a chance.

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Mogtx

Hopefully those perpetrators of wild plant “finger blight” don’t have the contacts these foreigners did to make it profitable.

I have always wondered why locals don’t harvest those darned French feral snails that were introduced here and ship them wholesale back to France. The French have apparently eaten their own wild snails to the point of scarcity. Maybe Humboldt Wild Caught Snails have a market there.

Anon Forrest
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5 years ago
Reply to  Mogtx

Damn. I didn’t think of that.

That sauce
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That sauce
5 years ago

40 or 50 bucks a plant?!? Can it be grown?!?

Bushytails
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Bushytails
5 years ago
Reply to  That sauce

If you make too much money, the county will start taxing you by how many square feet you use to grow them, and you have to wait two years for the permit…

Helllbilly
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Helllbilly
5 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Exactly

Jeff
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Jeff
5 years ago

That’s the problem, they could dig up the gold hidden, because most of the general public do not understand the rarity and value of those plants.

I see skeptical comments as to the price of those dudleya. In fact they are underestimated! It is truly 40-50US, but per HEAD! not per plant. So a plant with 3 heads is about 120-150US, and that is the wholesale price in bulk. I lived in China for a decade, and they are very popular, some individual old plants can fetch over 1000-1500US. Most of the plants on the photo are about 6-10 years old, they grow slowly in the wild.

Dozens of thousands have been smuggled to China and Korea since a few years. They do not grow that fast, even if they look like fast growing echeveria from garden centers, many species do not propagate by leaf cuttings, they are not echeveria, but Dudleya. Most important, Chinese and Koreans value the wild shape and uniqueness of the wild plants. Nursery grown Dudleya have a value of a few dollars, and they are easy to recognize, the trunk scars are very different, as well as the general shape.

As well they will have a very different value according to the leaf color and disposition, they are priced like bonsai when they are sold to Chinese hobbyists, and some plants are known to have fetched 2000-3000US. My knowledge of that market says that a shipment like that is about a monthly shipment to one of the Chinese trader, the profit are indeed enormous. How I know? I did propagate some of them in Kunming to make nursery grown plants 4 years ago, but they had no trade value. I saw shipments like the one on the photo arriving cargo every month at one succulent nursery in Kunming, saw the prices really paid, knew the trader so he explained to me in details how it works, and he was one of many. They have been poaching California Dudleya for nearly a decade now. First they used the ‘private land’ exemption to collect them, but now there are not that many of the proper species left on private land, so they need to attack protected area to satisfy the demand.

The demand is tremendous, so it is very sure that at a point many of the Dudleya species will become extinct in the wild in in Califoria, arresting a few poachers won’t deter them from removing every single plant they find. They have a very high value, cannot be produced in a nursery to replace wild plants at all for the reasons mentioned already, and are not CITES protected species.

Before, smugglers used to play with US poached Ariocarpus, but those are CITES protected, so it was a risky game. When the Dudleya are out of the US, smuggling non protected plant is not a big felony in China or Korea, and the profit is much higher.

CoastalCacti
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CoastalCacti
5 years ago

Kym, do you know what they do with all these plants now? Do they get replanted?

Seamus
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Seamus
5 years ago

I really hope they get replanted, even tossed down a cliff would be better than letting them rot in an evidence bag.

P.J.
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P.J.
5 years ago

unbelievable !

Mariahgirl
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Mariahgirl
5 years ago

Gee, I have to purchase all of the succulents that I want to grow in my yard, but we also only get as many abs as allowed by law. My husband has watched orientals (no he doesn’t know where they are from) get an over abundance of abs, leave them on the beach and then have their friends or relatives go pick out the ones they want because anyone can have 3 in their possession.

Helllbilly
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Helllbilly
5 years ago
Reply to  Mariahgirl

Sad but true. Also, I’ve watched them rake the hillsides removing all the mushrooms and taking it all so they won’t grow back in that location.

Emily
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Emily
5 years ago
Reply to  Mariahgirl

Orientals?

Joe Mota
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Joe Mota
5 years ago

CDFW needs a fleet of drones to patrol areas where poaching occurs so the game wardens can catch the culprits in the act. Prison time is an excellent cure for poaching. There’s a huge market in China for all kinds of wildlife products including tiger bones, rhinocerous horns, elephant tusks, abalone and, apparently, Dudleya. These consumers have no respect for wildlife conservation and are willing to pay top dollar to poachers who laugh at weak conservation enforcement.

Anon Forrest
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5 years ago

Put the same effort into protecting this plant as was once put into eradicating a different plant, and bingo…no problem, right?

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Anon Forrest

Yeah, like that worked.

Conservative Stupidity
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Conservative Stupidity
5 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Didn’t work because peabrain right wing bass turds have simple minds like children.

No joke
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No joke
5 years ago

Too bad the trend isn’t poaching ice plant instead.