Six Pounds of Heroin, Nearly $40,000 Seized at Three Locations Yesterday

This is a press release from the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office. The information has not been proven in a court of law and any individuals described should be presumed innocent until proven guilty:

Nestor Omar Valenzuela and Juan Jose Garcia-Barraza On Monday, February 26th, 2018, the Humboldt County Drug Task Force with assistance from the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office, District Attorney’s Office K9 Unit, Eureka Police Department POP Unit, Fortuna Police POP Officer, and the United States Forest Service K9 Unit, served warrants at three locations and seized nearly 6 pounds of heroin. The warrants included locations on Alpha Street in Eureka, Pine Street in Eureka and Rohnerville Road in Fortuna. After a month-long investigation Agents obtained a warrant for the locations and associated vehicles with the heroin distribution ring.

At approximately 1430 hours on the 26th, Agents conducted a traffic stop on US 101 near Humboldt Hill. Agents arrested Nestor Omar Valenzuela who was known to be involved in distribution of heroin. Inside the vehicle Agents found a special fabricated hidden compartment that contained approximately 13 ounces of black tar heroin packaged for sales. Agents were assisted by US Forest Service K9 that alerted on the vehicle during the traffic stop.

Agents served a warrant in the 3800 block of Rohnerville Road and found nearly 2 pounds of raw tar heroin and over 1 pound of packaged heroin. Agents found the kitchen of the apartment was being used to cut and process the raw heroin and prepare it for distribution. heroinAgents found scales, cutting agents, packaging material and related cooking utensils. Agents arrested Juan Jose Garcia-Barraza who was found inside the apartment and was known by Agents to be associated with distribution of heroin.

At the Fortuna location Agents searched 2 vehicles that were listed on the warrant and both contained specially fabricated hidden compartments.

Agents served a warrant in the 600 Block of Alpha Street and found over 1 pound of tar heroin packaged for sale. Agents also recovered scales, packaging material and items associated with distribution of heroin inside this location.

Agents also located nearly $40,000 in US Currency at the various locations that was seized for asset forfeiture.money

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TC
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TC
6 years ago

Awesome job guys !

HumbProud
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HumbProud
6 years ago

Good news and good job!

MK
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MK
6 years ago

Are those the same two guys that were caught with 2 lbs of heroin last year that where released the same day. Great job to the officers on the street that scooped these two dealers up. Hopefully this time the jail, DA and judge actually keeps them locked up and sent away for a long ass time such as they deserve.

Good
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Good
6 years ago
Reply to  MK

Lets hope the DA office now becomes more functional and employees feel safe after that jackass finally left. The employees who left after his hire wrote an open letter stating why they were leaving.
Remember the DA is up for re-election, read the news from the last year about what went on there and the effect of the backlog of cases has had on the jail population. Havibg so many trials and arraignments pushed back really clogged the system. I think there were only 2 left to work all those cases!!

Soooooo great to see the cops go after the heroin, thank you to them!!!!!!!

to clarify
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to clarify
6 years ago
Reply to  Good

That jackass was the Public Defender, not the DA

G.D. Clark IV
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G.D. Clark IV
6 years ago
Reply to  Good

That wasn’t the DA Office. That was the Public Defenders Office. Please get this Straight!! Maggie and Team at DA Office are doing great work!! Re-elect Maggie every time!!!

local observer
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local observer
6 years ago
Reply to  G.D. Clark IV

are you saying the two didn’t previously work together in Contra Costa County? and who gave the recommendation to hire him?

to clarify
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to clarify
6 years ago
Reply to  local observer

Maggie and the rest of the Committee recommended another applicant, not the jackass. The BOS made the brilliant decision to go against the Committee recommendation.
What else you got?

joe
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joe
6 years ago
Reply to  to clarify

wow never knew the public defenders office had the power to cite and release on 2 lbs of black

Disgruntled
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Disgruntled
6 years ago
Reply to  G.D. Clark IV

No such thing as a Public Defender! Public Pretender is what they are!

Diamond
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Diamond
6 years ago
Reply to  MK

They deport them. They come right back again…business as usual.

Mariahgirl
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Mariahgirl
6 years ago
Reply to  MK

The older guy was not excepted by the jail according to the release info on LOCO. Who owns the apartment and house where all of this has been taking place?

unbridled phillistine
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unbridled phillistine
6 years ago

That is alot of smack! So glad it is off the streets.. So glad these two are taken out of business. Great catch! Can we keep em? Please Poppa!

Peggy sarver
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6 years ago

Great job…..get them all….. So sick and tired of seeing people OD on heroin… So many children without parents….

Fortuna
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Fortuna
6 years ago
Reply to  Peggy sarver

Sadly so many parents without children also

J Dubbs
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J Dubbs
6 years ago
Reply to  Peggy sarver

You’d rather they continue using but not actually od? That’s hard on kids too. Besides, at least an od stops the madness and the kids can move on because living with heroin mom is probably worse

Shel
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Shel
6 years ago
Reply to  J Dubbs

Heroine users are lost to their families whether they OD or continue to shoot up … but while they continue to stay alive (not much of a life) there is still hope and people still love them! Some do recover (very small %) but I would never take that hope away from those families. Unfortunately, even for those addicts ‘recovering’ it is still lurking in the shadows and some can’t break that hold long enough.

Richard
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Richard
6 years ago

AWESOME JOB …….THE GOOD GUYS IN BLUE SCORE…..

For Real
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For Real
6 years ago

Just a couple hard working friends of ours from South of the border looking for a better opportunity in America. Thank God California is a sanctuary State where these two can get the right treatment they need to continue the long, tiring, and difficult path to citizenship. God bless Amigos!

Fortunian
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Fortunian
6 years ago
Reply to  For Real

Are you for real!? Send these people back to their own country and dirty that up with your heroin. We do not need these kind of people here.

Kirk Richards
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Kirk Richards
6 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Are they? Documented, that is. Makes a difference in the views of some.

HOGRANCH
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HOGRANCH
6 years ago
Reply to  Kirk Richards

when a shark bites you, an you are about to bleed out. does it make a difference what kind of shark bit you. these people where just providing poison to the rest of the folks around here. I sum countries that crime doesn’t even require a trial.

Guest
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6 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

The wife beater tee shirt?

J Dubbs
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J Dubbs
6 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Really, Kim? Do these two look like the type to go through proper channels and wade through the documentation process? Don’t let your delusion get in the way it diminishes your credibility. I’m not saying you have to scream ‘illegal and deport’ but come on. The chances these two are legitimate and in good standing are very slim and the fact that your default is to believe they are seems willfully ignorant and better left unsaid.

Correct, but not politically correct
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Correct, but not politically correct
6 years ago
Reply to  J Dubbs

I have to agree with you on this one Dubbs… The PC police have made it “racist” to state whether a person is here illegally. The LEO’s don’t want that stink so they just don’t say anything.

I’ll bet $10,000 neither of these upstanding gentlemen are here legally and are part of a cartel operation.

THC
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THC
6 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

And how much heroin did those two get caught with 6 lb?there’s a big difference between users and suppliers.

https://kymkemp.com/2015/11/04/over-10-pounds-of-meth-and-heroin-discovered-three-arrested/
https://kymkemp.com/2017/07/25/close-to-a-pound-of-heroin-and-around-three-pounds-of-methamphetamine-found-in-fortuna-apartment-said-humboldt-county-drug-task-force/

https://kymkemp.com/2018/02/16/yesterday-we-seized-five-pounds-of-suspected-methamphetamine-and-more-says-humboldt-county-sheriffs-department/

https://kymkemp.com/2015/10/14/humboldt-justice-man-arrested-with-pound-of-heroin-failed-to-show-in-court/

https://kymkemp.com/2011/05/05/phillipsville-heroin-bust-results-in-conviction-yesterday/

https://kymkemp.com/2014/04/15/200000-worth-heroin-seized/

https://kymkemp.com/tag/phillipsville-heroin-bust/

This list took me less than 5 minutes to compile. You might recognize some of the stories,they have two things in common. one you reported on all of them, two they were all found with more than a pound of heroin. In the searching of all these headlines I found two “non-Hispanic”people with over a pound of heroin reported in the last few years, starting to see a pattern there?

If we were talking about large illegal grows on Federal Land, I’d give you a list of the hmong.

Now if we were talking about screwed up tweaked out addicts, I could give you a 16-page list of tweaked-out white trash. But again there’s a big difference between users and suppliers. The fact is the supply it’s coming from fucking Mexico! I’m sorry I love your website you do an awesome jobbut come on, not all these people are up here picking grapes.

THC
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THC
6 years ago
Reply to  For Real

Hey, these two fine gentlemen were just up here picking “grapes” layoff.

Michelle
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Michelle
6 years ago

Way to go cops….

Razzmoist
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Razzmoist
6 years ago

Keep up the good work fellas!
This crap is ruining our community. Our county has too many homeless heroin camps riddled with dirty needles.
Just imagine how many folks could O D on this junk?
Maybe these dealers should be charged with second degree murder or at least manslaughter?

fuckwalterwhite.com
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fuckwalterwhite.com
6 years ago
Reply to  Razzmoist

Agree. A large amount should be attempted murder.

Bozo
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Bozo
6 years ago

Likely out on the street tomorrow…

Gazoo
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Gazoo
6 years ago

Great job!

still@it
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still@it
6 years ago

6lbs what does that say about Humboldt weed is not your problem over 20lbs from the new year till now get on it Chump heres the real death for all the north coast!!!!

Cowabunga
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Cowabunga
6 years ago

What a great Job! Thank you!

Honeydew Bridge C.H.U.M.P.
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Honeydew Bridge C.H.U.M.P.
6 years ago

How much each day do they use on average, couldn’t find anything on that.

I know a marijuana user does about a pound or two a month, more if addicted to butane marijuana.

Is this a personal cache of drugs or is like a weed grower being caught with 300 pounds of marijuana.

Anytime I see drugs taken off the streets, I always say it’s a good thing, and I also know that with marijuana being a gateway drug that every marijuana grower is at fault for all the drugs out there.

I’m glad marijuana will be leaving shortly but the growers seem to use the harder drugs and traffic humans for sex, and this will continue with liberal, lax views on marijuana and other drugs.

local observer
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local observer
6 years ago

its 26,660 doses of heroin. so that’s 73 addicts high everyday for a year. the demographic group addicted to meth and heroin are the least educated in our community.

Really bad
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Really bad
6 years ago
Reply to  local observer

Holy s***! I was gonna say 6# sounds like a lot. If your numbers are accurate it sure is.

But will we see less tweaking?

J Dubbs
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J Dubbs
6 years ago
Reply to  Really bad

It is a lot, but there’s like 73 addicts just between Bayshore Mall and winco

Randallcrush
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Randallcrush
6 years ago
Reply to  local observer

That’s one dose per day. Most addicts use 3 or more.

J Dubbs
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J Dubbs
6 years ago

Up to two pounds a month? An ounce a day? Lol. Wow, talk about baked. And he’s still functional?

Life is good
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Life is good
6 years ago

Good job by law enforcement. We must repeal the laws Brown has initiated to lessen severity of punishment for criminals, keep the criminals in prison and repeal sanctuary state. So much happens in this area that isn’t even reported in the media. Law enforcement closed mouthed about it due to on-going investigations. Sanctuary state has helped a few illegals and has endangered a whole lot of other people. Legal citizens of this state. It needs to stop now.

Honeydew Bridge C.H.U.M.P.
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Honeydew Bridge C.H.U.M.P.
6 years ago
Reply to  Life is good

I agree with that. Moving the border of Mexico several hundred miles south and creating a no man’s land over those 200 miles would keep the illegals away.

Scooter
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Scooter
6 years ago
Reply to  Life is good

First you have to stop your kids from chasing the dragon.

Cole s
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Cole s
6 years ago

Good job Leo Talk about putting the smack down , now how many junkies gonna get sick and desperate

Taurus Ballzhoff
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Taurus Ballzhoff
6 years ago

SIX POUNDS? Great collar for the LEO’s!

Heroin is not good for humans…

Put these two away for a day or two, please!

Enough already
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Enough already
6 years ago

I would ask their immigration status, but not only would that be politically incorrect, but not permitted since we are a Sanctuary State. I know asking these kinds of questions automatically makes you racist, but these are the kinds of people we don’t need. If they are US citizens, we are stuck with them, but if not, these are the kind of people I want deported. We need to quit making our country a sanctuary for criminals period…Citizens or not, black, white, red, tan, or yellow. These people need to know it won’t be tollerated instead of making excuses for them.

Guest
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Guest
6 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

No, it wouldn’t. Hispanic is an nationality adjective, not a race.

laura cooskey
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laura cooskey
6 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Way to miss the point, as you know. Kym was saying that you are giving attention to these suspects because of their names and (i would guess) pictures, showing that their ancestry is derived from Latino people, their culture from areas and languages influenced by Spain. We don’t have a handy word for being prejudiced against a culture, such as “culturist,” so when people make judgments about others based on a cultural heritage or ancestry other than northwestern European, most people just call that “racist.”
Her point–not asking about these suspects’ immigration status if you wouldn’t ask about Anglo-appearing men named Smith, Jones, or Brown– is well-taken.
This country is made up of some indigenous people, but mostly immigrants from all over the globe–likely your ancestors were immigrants, legal or illegal, at some point. Probably illegal from the point of view of the Natives.

Sundance
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Sundance
6 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Thank you Kym, you took the words right out of my mouth! I don’t see any this bashing when the ones caught arent hispanic!

THC
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THC
6 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym, how many times lately have you seen non-hispanic people arrested with 6 pounds of fucking heroin. There’s a big difference between the users and the suppliers!

THC
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THC
6 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

You’re right, just because somebody has Mexican ancestry doesn’t mean they were born in Mexico and are here illegally . But the heroin they were busted with definitely came from Mexico and I seriously doubt it cross the border legally. And since these people are obvious of Mexican descent, busted with 6 pounds of heroin obviously for Mexico. I think they’re legality is a reasonable question to ask.

Redwood Dan
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Redwood Dan
6 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

You know what I thought was interesting Kym. I got a survey from HSU in the mail last week. The first or second question was “are you Hispanic or non-hispanic” the next question asked “what is your race” with multiple choice. I in my opinion, those questions are extremely racist and perpetuate the mindset of racial division. How is asking if a Hispanic heroin dealer any more out of line than our local University wanting to identify people by their race or color of their skin?

Thinking allowed
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Thinking allowed
6 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Riiiight. Suuure. Yup. I suspect that is dependent on where you live and who you call Hispanic. I worked with a woman who got so angry with her semi annual unsolicited invitation to attend the government sponsored work shop on Hispanics in politics. She had an Hispanic last name (her husband’s name) but even he got his name from an Indian ancestor who was basically assigned the name.

Hispanic should be lost as a government category unless of course the government intends to assign me to the Anglophone category because Hispanic is a language only fiction created to weald power in government useful pigeonholing. A person with Mexican antecedents is not the same as a Cuban nor a Guatemalan nor a Chilean, much less a Spaniard.

Guest
Guest
Guest
6 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I think Hispanic as a term has one thing in common- Spanish language. The actual cultures included are as different as can be and the real races so characterized range from black through white. I admit I have never seen an “Hispanick Asian but I’m sure they’re out there somewhere. And, when in their home countries, blythly hate despise each other in a way that would really be racism if practiced here.

So no, I don’t think there is a worse widespread discrimination against a group that has only one thing in common- coming from a place where Spanish is the dominant language than any other immigrant is and always had met. There maybe a wide spread prejudice against non English speaking people from a different culture, especially if illegally in the country and who are insistent that they are exceptional but that has always been true. Most real immigrant groups get past it in time unless, like Hispanic self identification, it carries such cache with the government while at the same time does not cause real suffering of abuse. It’s handy for getting government work, using the government to enforce your wants and creating artificial voting blocks.

If you persist in seeing illegal immigration as a race issue, you will create it. If a man named Konstantin Kuznetsov Petrushenkov or Chhet Acharya or Hjalmar Gustavsson had been arrested for drug sales, I might also question their legal status but since the largest share of illegals, with their vocal advocates, are from Mexico and are a locally known for being frequently involved in the drug trade, I’m pretty sure to show an interest in it. I suppose when I get familiar with “Bulgarian” names, that will start raising alarm bells too. That is not a matter of race but of political survival.

Johnny Reb
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Johnny Reb
6 years ago

Immigration status never mentioned. Politically correct coppers all the way.

Scooter
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Scooter
6 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Now kym.. You and your friends better lighten up.. cuz I don’t know if it will be politically correct or not.. but some people might say you’re starting to sound a bit like a Politically Correct Social Justice Warrior..hehehe.. It never ends does it ?!?!

Guest
Guest
Guest
6 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

The point being it is almost never mentioned if they are illegal. If it was then then hopefully the government and media could be relied on to provide information most people could assume was correct and the question would not be often raised. It is the lesson that has been learned from experience that the paternal powers think most Americans are too awful to be trusted not go take revenge on minorities. It is the lesson of not trusting the media and the government to not fabricate the scenarios that fit their ideology, excluding everything else

THC
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THC
6 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Yes why not, being in this country illegally is a crime. why should that crimes go unreported or be ignored? should we just start ignoring any crime we don’t think should be a crime?

Guest
Guest
Guest
6 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Being a reporter means being aware that something might be an issue people want to know. It is not necessary to pretend to be blind and ignorant in order not to be a racist.

If it comes to a reporter’s attention that there is an indication that something is pertinent, it should a question to ask. If there is a local history of illegal immigration of any group, then any report on criminal activity should be remiss if it doesn’t include information if the name is both identified with the group and is rare in any other group. You don’t assume illegality but you do ask. If there were a history of illegal immigration and concomitant crime from Frenchmen, I’d expect that crimes committed by Clément Archambault would raise the question too.

local observer
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local observer
6 years ago
Reply to  Guest

its only important to 22% of Americans.

Guest
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Guest
6 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

And we have arrived at the bottom line. I guess no detention for ICE if they are illegal because that’s what sanctuary state really means.

However, there are exceptions for non cooperation with ICE and one of those is “An offense involving the felony possession, sale, distribution, manufacture, or trafficking of controlled substances.” Of course only after conviction I suppose and if you actually find out they are illegal through some sort of magic. Since the police think they aren’t allowed to ask. Anyway I guess it’s not their problem. It’s the public’s to live with.

Take gun, point at foot, shoot. And smile while you’re doing it. If they are citizens of a foreign country, they lose their legal resident status upon conviction of a drug crime. I wonder if there is a chance in hell they will be convicted of anything.

Guest
Guest
Guest
6 years ago
Reply to  Johnny Reb

I think if anyone is illegal it should be listed in the charges.

Livin' Easy
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Livin' Easy
6 years ago

OK……where are all the people saying ‘We need mental health services and rehab for people like this’? Sanctuary working for America. Great job LE. Now the DA, courts and judges need to do their job. Lock ’em up and throw away the key.

Here's hoping for the future.
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Here's hoping for the future.
6 years ago

Nice to see that drug enforcement money no longer being spent on Weed is doing what I had hoped: stopping dangerous dope.

Sick of lies
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Sick of lies
6 years ago

Get them! Never stop. Save the youth too many are dying from this blight in our community!!!

Mogtx
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6 years ago

No bail amount ?if there is a bail amount they are on there way back to mexico to load up another ship ment .Hopefully there is no bail ,but on a lighter note great job law enforcement I’ve been saying it ,and saying it now you’re finally getting it cut the head off the snake now people can clean up ,and straighten up a little bit at a time good job ,and great reporting Kym.

F*#k_Heroin
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F*#k_Heroin
6 years ago

Isn’t the 3800 block of rhonerville Road in a school zone. Toddy Thomas school is right around the corner from there. I would think with that kind of operation stayed inside of a house that close to a school there would be additional charges. But who knows.

!!!
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!!!
6 years ago

Go get em boys! Woahhh whoooo!

Juniper Jim
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Juniper Jim
6 years ago

time to implement china’s policy on drug trafficking. these are poisoners of our society.

Dede
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Dede
6 years ago

Thank you law enforcement for removing that death drug from the community.

J Dubbs
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J Dubbs
6 years ago

When will heroin finally be legalized and controlled? I see these drug documentaries about addicts where they say like “this is Harold, he’s 56 and living on the streets of Philadelphia and has been doing heroin for 29 years. He gets by on a little govt assistance and is a small time dealer to support his habit. He spends his days helping fellow addicts stay alive in this largely blue collar district. At night, he quietly shuffles home to wherever he’s staying (he won’t show our cameras for fear he may get robbed of his stash) and shoots up his load wondering if he’ll live to see tomorrow…” So if these people can do it for that long and they’re still living and hearty enough to stay on the streets, is it really as bad as they say? Yes, I know it’s bad but what if it was produced cleanly in a pharm fresh setting.?.?.?

Taurus Ballzhoff
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Taurus Ballzhoff
6 years ago
Reply to  J Dubbs

We live in a society of religious throwbacks who control a great deal of wealth and attendant power. If you think drugs will ever be fully legal, I would say, “don’t hold your breath”.

There is a war against medical uses of narcotics, in which physicians have to second guess every patient’s needs and in which patients are demonized for seeking treatment. The government, formed and operated by the religious wealthy, is completely opposed to the idea that citizens can make choices, relating to drugs, for themselves.

Only when the administration of justice becomes so expensive, as it did for cannabis prohibition, that it costs more to prosecute and incarcerate and control users and dealers and producers, will this dilemma abate. Maybe in 100 years…

I agree that less harm would result from giving pure heroin to users who desire heroin, and providing a safe environment to use within.

The degradation of using street heroin, especially to women who often sell sex to pay for heroin, and who are exploited by men who sell heroin, is heartbreaking.

After a career in healthcare, I would rather hand out the drug to all who want it. Pure drugs and a safe environment would be very much preferable to the dealers in the above photo.

THC
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THC
6 years ago

Taurus Ballzhoff, yeah you’re absolutely right. You should totally have the right to sit home and shoot smack up all day long while people that actually work for living have to pay for your lifestyle. WTF

Taurus Ballzhoff
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Taurus Ballzhoff
6 years ago
Reply to  THC

It’s all about costs, not the “right to get high” while others work.

Everyone makes choices. If you choose to kill yourself, should you have the “right” to do so?

Which costs more, handing out cheap mass produced drugs with clean syringes and drug diversion available, or people killing themselves, degrading themselves, committing crimes, consuming huge amounts of healthcare, jail space, and social welfare?

I admit, it is a radical notion, but the time will come.

50 years ago, no one would have thought that pot would become legal, that sex work would be acceptable, that crazies would run wild in Mendo and Humboldt…

I believe that personal freedom will evolve to the point where a scenario like this will be possible, not during my life though. Either that or there will be “euthanasia centers” for those that choose death… It’s not too far out there to consider… But it is not my intention to plan the whole thing for you…

Guest
Guest
Guest
6 years ago

Even if it wasn’t unprincipled to actually addict people even if they wanted, where to costs end? When children in the family are abused or endangered? When people are killed in drug fueled fights? When houses are burned down? Or when the musical service is impacted with save idiot drug addict overdoses?

You really think that even a sizable minority is going to allow someone else to say when, where, what and how much drugs to use? Or that drug impaired judgement restrains itself from harming others?

Do you expect to provide housing, a car to kill people with, food, utilities, etc for everyone willing to use drugs?

THC
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THC
6 years ago

I have no problem with legalizing drug use as long as you’re going to be responsible for your own well-being.

Guest
Guest
Guest
6 years ago
Reply to  THC

And not destroying the well being of others?

Livin' Easy
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Livin' Easy
6 years ago

TB…………So, who would pay for the ‘pure’ drugs for the addicts. I don’t think anyone would have a problem with addicts doing their choice of drug, as long as it didn’t have negative impacts on others. The problem is that it make them unable to hold down a job, earn a legitimate income and be productive in society. The result is they rob, steal and violate people’s lives and businesses; and become a drain on society. If not for that, most could care less if someone wanted to stay home and keep high all day.

Taurus Ballzhoff
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Taurus Ballzhoff
6 years ago
Reply to  Livin' Easy

If people did not have to focus on procuring their drug, they could be productive. This has all been tried before!

Do your research.

Heroin could be produced in mass quantities, and development of a strain of yeast which is genetically modified to produce opiates in large cultures is well developed. We won’t even need poppies!

The pharm industry, the government even, is planning. This is down the road! Believe it!

THC
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THC
6 years ago

The pharmaceutical companies already produce legal heroin prescription drugs what do you think opiates are based on.

Zingo
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Zingo
6 years ago
Reply to  Livin' Easy

Livin Easy hit the nail on the head.
I don’t care if they want to take drugs until every last tooth falls out – as long as they can afford it, and don’t steal to support the habit or become a menace or expense to society.
We all know – this is not the case. Why should the rest of us have to pay for their chosen lifestyle?

THC
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THC
6 years ago
Reply to  J Dubbs

J Dubbed, not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not ,but just in case here is a list of legal prescription opiates that are already controlled by the pharmaceutical companies.
https://drugabuse.com/opiate-addiction-treatment/

By the way more people abused prescription drugs every year than all other street drugs combined.

http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/prescription/abuse-international-statistics.html

Taurus Ballzhoff
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Taurus Ballzhoff
6 years ago
Reply to  THC

And, there are millions of persons who take a handful of prescription drugs every day while maintaining productive lives.

Go to rehab for 28 days and meet them, after their lives get out of control…

Guest
Guest
Guest
6 years ago

So you prefer these drugs be made even easier to get? And come with someone else providing support? That seems like a conflict.

Taurus Ballzhoff
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Taurus Ballzhoff
6 years ago
Reply to  Guest

For myself, drugs are not the answer to anything, and I don’t use drugs, marijuana, or alcohol. I do like coffee.

I think we have an obligation to reduce the harm of drug use, and to reduce the social cost of people that do use, while offering alternatives, like rehab and therapy.

THC
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THC
6 years ago

And why did their life get out of control, and why were they at rehab? Sounds very productive. You’re seriously advocating for police officers, firefighters, doctor’s, people cooking your food, driving big trucks. Ect.. to be able to be legally strung out on heroin, At the expense of the taxpayers?

Taurus Ballzhoff
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Taurus Ballzhoff
6 years ago
Reply to  THC

I am not advocating anything, just thinking in print. People in all the jobs you mentioned. and more, use prescription drugs, smoke pot, use alcohol etc, every day. I have worked with folks too fucked up to function, but still present in the workplace, because they hide it well and since no one wants to confront them.

It’s a sad situation, but it occurs everywhere!

Don’t be so closed, no one is asking you to pay for it, but consider the real costs of drug addiction!

I am clean and sober, hope you are too! The main effect of being clean and sober is it makes you see how many people are not!

Hey!

Try not using today!