Garberville Town Square Enclosed With Bright Orange Fence

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Orange fencing being put up around the Garberville Town Square. [Photos and video by Kate Carlson who is part of the protest]

As of 6:40 p.m., an orange fence and no trespassing signs enclose the Garberville Town Square. Only about a two yard section remains unfenced, according to Lois Cordova, a homeless Southern Humboldt woman.

“The fence is real,” explained Cordova in a phone call to the Redheaded Blackbelt as the fence went up around her. Later, she told a friend at the Square, “I wasn’t in anywhere and suddenly I was in.”

Cordova held up her phone so we could hear a statement from a deputy with the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Department to a growing number of individuals gathered inside the fence.

“This is private property,” he said. “It is owned by the Board. It will be open for tomorrow for Farmer’s Market.” After the Market ended for the day, he said, the square would again be closed.

Josh Sweet, a business owner who was part of the decision to put up the fence, declined to interviewed but did say he was acting with the permission of the Garberville Town Square Board. He read a sign posted in the area to us.

It said,

We apologize but the Town Square is temporarily closed due to the alarming amount of disrespect, uncontrollable bad behavior, alcohol, drug use smoking, unpermitted dogs, loud and inappropriate, unsanctioned parties and violence.

We will be open for the Farmer Market and available for pre-approved private events. Anyone who is not authorized to be here will be trespassing and prosecuted under the law. Thanks for your understanding and patience.

We look forward to reopening as soon as we can find some solutions to some very difficult and complex issues.

People protesting the closure of the Garberville Town Square. [Photo by Kate

People protesting the closure of the Garberville Town Square. [Photo by Kate Carlson]

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Bushytails
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Bushytails
7 years ago

I’ve suggested solutions to the problem for a while, but there’s too many people who think that giving parasites everything for free will somehow make them decide to get jobs.

Henchman Of Justice
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Henchman Of Justice
7 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Solutions are immaterial when they are not really solutions due to foreseen ineffectivenesses.

If some idea is flawed before it is implemented, then it is crazy to implement that flawed idea.

HOJ wonders:

1) What does the parcel map book at the assessors office say about the town square?

2) Cordova must be a “rich homeless” due to paying for mobile phone minutes over housing……protest falls on deaf ears.

3) The Land :

A) If centered on the conjoinment of multiple properties to create “a square” for the businesses/property uses, then justified fencing.

B) If public property, then need to rehabilitate, update rules based upon precedents and impacts and to maintain is justified too.

Can’t imagine why anyone would complain…………

Time to deal with scum, but make sure the scum is tracked, for the scum will commit crimes as they move elsewhere.

Vigilanteism/protest for scum, no different than black lives matter with scum cops…….it is a sign o’ the times, sadly.

Someone
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Someone
7 years ago

About the rich homeless woman with a phone….. you know they give away free phones to the homeless, right?

Henchman Of Justice
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Henchman Of Justice
7 years ago
Reply to  Someone

Who is they? And who constantly pays for the minutes and data?

Curious George wonders……

Sad
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Sad
7 years ago

It was a vacant lot that was for many years used as a parking lot. Then it was purchased by a non-profit community group to create a public space. It is privately owned, and the board is responsible and liable for it.

Henchman Of Justice
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Henchman Of Justice
7 years ago
Reply to  Sad

If it is privately owned, then it can’t be a “public place” unless it is within an established public right of way that has been designated as a public use area…..

El Gringo
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El Gringo
7 years ago

Yeah, because it’s real easy to get a job and a place to live without a cell phone.

PinkAsso
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PinkAsso
7 years ago

A fence wont fix the problem only a wall will.

;)
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;)
7 years ago
Reply to  PinkAsso

And they will make The Dead pay for it!

Henchman Of Justice
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Henchman Of Justice
7 years ago
Reply to  PinkAsso

And by crossing over, under, through, around, etc…. the fence gives cause for arrest……….can’t imagine what the scum has to hide.

Guest
Guest
Guest
7 years ago

About time

Sohumlady
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Sohumlady
7 years ago

I agree to this. I do not feel comfortable going there. The only people offended by this are those that “hang out there” all day. I understand the homeless or drifters wanting somewhere to hang out. But there is no respect, and it just gets trashed. It was a beautiful thing for the community. .. too bad the ugly ruined it.

JT
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JT
7 years ago
Reply to  Sohumlady

Agree, well said.

Henchman Of Justice
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Henchman Of Justice
7 years ago
Reply to  Sohumlady

Screw Drifters and loafers.

Fruitland
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Fruitland
7 years ago

Great job, finally good to see some action even though it shuts down the square!!! We need more hard line action like this!

Henchman Of Justice
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Henchman Of Justice
7 years ago
Reply to  Fruitland

Exactly, hardline!

Eastside
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Eastside
7 years ago

Good decision.

Westside
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Westside
7 years ago

Good!Do whatever is necessary to curb the disrespect.This area has always been open to travelers but we are having an increasing amount of addiction and filth.We need to be a healthy community and honor the beauty of this land.For our children and our future.I hope that some solutions for all will be found.

Ben
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Ben
7 years ago

I’m sure the violence was a big factor in this decision..

Henchman Of Justice
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Henchman Of Justice
7 years ago
Reply to  Ben

Ya think drugs didn’t?

Recall Estelle
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Recall Estelle
7 years ago

Wow such beauty, a true feat of engineering. Such a lovely vibrant color lending great contrast with the crimson bricks. It’s great to see the dope growing elite taking our town back one gorgeous fence at a time.
‘Make Garberville Great Again’

Eastside
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Eastside
7 years ago
Reply to  Recall Estelle

I’d rather see an ugly orange fence than see the ugliness that’s been going on there for far too long.

FFS
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FFS
7 years ago
Reply to  Eastside

A bright orange fence looks better than the people that were taking over the town square….

J
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J
7 years ago
Reply to  Recall Estelle

I can’t smell a fence. A fence doesn’t hit on me, ask me for work or stare at me. I’ll take a fence any day of the week. I’ve avoided garberville like a plague for a couple years now. Who knows how much money Chautauqua has lost from people that just don’t want to walk past the square!

Reality Check
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Reality Check
7 years ago
Reply to  J

Word.

My truck is a hillbeater
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My truck is a hillbeater
7 years ago
Reply to  J

If your getting hit in that means your cute! Take it as a confidence booster hahah I have a job n house, can I take you to dinner?

Enuf
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Enuf
7 years ago

I and my family ONLY get to enjoy our town square on Fridays during the Farmers market season when there’s our actual community there enjoying the day together.
ALL the other days are NOT SAFE. I won’t even cut through there when I’m walking to another business to shop. I have had more than 3 separate horrible episodes where I was physically threatened. This was in broad daylight at lunch time. In one of the episodes, as I was walking by, a young guy, who was obviously high on some kind of drug that makes you delusional, came running up to me screaming unintelligibly in my face with his fists clenched. His pack of friends ran up and pulled him away from me. Said, “oh, he doesn’t mean anything.”
I am seriously considering getting training to get a ” permit to carry”. I am NOT going to allow these new ” garberVillains” to hurt me or my family or friends.

Blue Pool
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Blue Pool
7 years ago
Reply to  Enuf

I’m glad the fence was put up & I’m looking forward to the time when a permanent one gets installed.
When I walk through Garberville I have to close my eyes to all the scummy
people on every corner.
This park was built for our community members – the ones who live here and
Contribute to the field of wholesome positive energy.

Thank You!!
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Thank You!!
7 years ago

Please let us know if a group organizes to build a permanent fence.
I’ll be more than happy to make a donation.

just a few suggestions :)
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just a few suggestions :)
7 years ago
Reply to  Thank You!!

If there is no choice but a fence, please invest and somehow make what is usually ugly a beautiful thing.

San Francisco’s rose garden is surrounded by a fancy & beautiful, iron victorian style fence. It’s unlocked and locked according to a set schedule.

Also, a prior comment mentions, she is only there at the farmers market. Schedule and coordinate more events to attract actual community members. Arcata has music on the plaza, for instance& not just reggae or dubb as usual but also country, rock, classical, jazz, blues, whatever! Or donate time & space for free to the schools to utilize somehow. I hear the cheerleaders need space to practice for instance. Outside plays? Whatever happened to Shakespeare on the Lake? Shakespeare on the Plaza!

I love the town square
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I love the town square
7 years ago

The town square has tried many events and they do have it open for schools events etc. for free. Please know that anyone wanting to schedule a play etc… can certainly contact the square.

when?
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when?
7 years ago

If they did, it wasn’t advertised much. I only heard of 1 SHC event there besides the famers market and the square has been there how long now?

Fritz Harmann
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Fritz Harmann
7 years ago

Any thoughts on rounding up these degenerates and locking them up in some sort of camp where they`d have to work? They likely don`t have a much of a work ethic; [edit]

Susy Barsotti
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Susy Barsotti
7 years ago
Reply to  Fritz Harmann

I’m curious, are you with the Stanford Prison Project?

Socrateeez
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Socrateeez
7 years ago
Reply to  Fritz Harmann

Dang, props Kim Jong… I mean Fritz

humm :/
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humm :/
7 years ago
Reply to  Socrateeez

Frirz, Didn’t nazis have camps?

Robi
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Robi
7 years ago
Reply to  Fritz Harmann

You poor deranged person. You must have had a horrible childhood to be like this. Maybe some therapy would help.

Ex Bleeding Heart Liberal
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Ex Bleeding Heart Liberal
7 years ago

As a long time “hills” resident i have spent a couple of hours in the square lately. Violent! Victimizing! Vitriol! Veto!

Lisa
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Lisa
7 years ago

They should have paved it and put up a parking lot. But instead this. If it was a hot parking lot no one would hang out and it still could have been the farmers market and we would have a place to park.but instead they went the lets just please a few at the expense of the many route..

Andrea
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Andrea
7 years ago
Reply to  Lisa

It was a parking lot and people parked there in there vans and hung out all day all the time…. I agree it should be a parking lot. Only because we dont have enougn parking, But it wouldn’t do anything about the homeless population occupying the space.

Henchman Of Justice
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Henchman Of Justice
7 years ago
Reply to  Andrea

Thank You for being honest and providing your personal experiences of facts!!!

Eric.
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Eric.
7 years ago
Reply to  Lisa

finally someone got it right. It should have been a parking lot from the start.

Only Trump Can Save Us
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Only Trump Can Save Us
7 years ago

Only Trump Can Save Garberville from Trimmigrants. Build the Humboldt Wall!
Somebody needs to call Donald Trump and see if they can get him to send in the national guard to help build a wall to protect the good people of Garberville Town Square from people sitting down, also PEOPLE SMOKING MARIJUANA… There needs to be laws in place to prevent sitting and breathing in public unless you have lots of money and a good paying job. All the HOMELESS & poor people should be rounded up and shipped out of Eureka Port like the chinese were in the 1800’s. If you don’t have a brand new Dodge sitting on 35’s your out of the Humboldt Dodge… Protect the Dope Growing Elits and arrest all those criminal trespassers, after all they dont even vote republican, and besides they smoke pot, arrest them all, restart the Humboldt Reservation and forced servitude system, take their children just like the kidknappers did to our local Indians and sell them to rich white ranchers in the Sacramento Valley just like Indians were in the 1800s….. Somebody call Donald Trump to save garberville , When I was a kid in Laytonville we called Garberville Hippyville…. lol . Garberville needs a “Crime Watch and Neighborhood Watch… then at least somebody could be responsible for watching the crime… “Got scissors, will work”

Andrea
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Andrea
7 years ago

Sitting and breathing unless you have money??? I don’t care what kind of money people have I still wouldn’t be okay with them following my child home from school or shooting up in the town square. Or almost killing someone and leaving a blood trail through town. This has nothing to do with money hit has to do with common human decency and not being a danger to our society!

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
7 years ago
Reply to  Andrea

Andrea
I couldn’t have said it better myself.

Henchman Of Justice
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Henchman Of Justice
7 years ago
Reply to  Andrea

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!

Trump 2016
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Trump 2016
7 years ago

35’s are so last year. You ain’t trying unless you got 37’s. Keep the the market black! You know what I’ve been saying for years…once you go black

Humboldt Dodge Club
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Humboldt Dodge Club
7 years ago

Oh no! You mean I have to get 35’s? And what club? I’ve lived here for over 39 years & I have never heard of this club you speak of! How do you join Humboldt Dodge? Does it have to be white? 😂

FFS
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FFS
7 years ago

Oh man, you are so right! We should TOTALLY get rid of ALL homeless because they are beneath us! I mean, that’s EXACTLY why Garberville but up the fence right?! I mean, it couldn’t POSSIBLY be because these homeless/drifters/transients/misplaced/what-have-yous were causing a REAL problem. It had NOTHING to do with innocent people/families/children being violently attacked/harassed or people shooting up in the square! Noooooo, it had to do with the fact that the town just thinks these people are beneath them! They just want their town cleansed of the undesirable……………..on a serious note, get a life. If the town is doing this to “innocent people breathing in a public place” why not house them on your property? Start a commune instead of expecting everyone else to put up with the MAJORITY of these people’s bullsh**.

Really
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Really
7 years ago
Reply to  FFS

Not A Public Space The Town Square Is a Privately owned non profit

Henchman Of Justice
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Henchman Of Justice
7 years ago
Reply to  FFS

Are you a drifter/loafer all upset and mad now because victims are putting their foot down?

regards
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regards
7 years ago

I hope Trump moves in next door to YOU! (of course, you’ll no longer be there, because I’m sure he would have his unpaid workers clear the area or riff raff!

Janet
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Janet
7 years ago

No one came forward to buy it as a parking lot.

Henchman Of Justice
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Henchman Of Justice
7 years ago
Reply to  Janet

Probably because of the detractive scumbag drifters and loafers that make Garberville look as nearly a shithole as Eureka.

SickOFit
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SickOFit
7 years ago

Great….now these folks will be in front of our businesses driving tourists and customers away and overloading our law enforcement with complaints from businesses!! This is becoming such a vicious cycle and I hate to say a yearly event….but its becoming and has been a daily event !! I am so sad the big world out there has finally discovered our beautiful community and are here to enjoy it in a disrespectful and abusive manner!! RUDENESS IS PREVALENT IN OUR SOCIETY AND BECOMING SO COMMON!! Closing the square in my opinion is not a good decision and seems like a desperate and rash decision to a growing problem that I AM SORRY FOLKS IS NOT GOING AWAY and I wish it would and could go away!! In my opinion this decision will only have bad repercussions!! MORE LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE IS THE SOLUTION……………………..??????????????

AnonymousHumboldtian
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AnonymousHumboldtian
7 years ago
Reply to  SickOFit

I agree, it’s the same thing they did in eureka. They move the homeless around like they’re playing musical chairs or something. Something more permanent needs to be done, and more sheriff presence wouldn’t be a bad start.

Gail A Crosby
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Gail A Crosby
7 years ago

Vote for prop 64 and move pot farming to the real farms, with real workers who don’t hang around hoping for a job. The pot-dependent businesses will crash, the hangers-on will depart, and we can go back to the good old days of tourism and fishing (what?)

Felix
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Felix
7 years ago
Reply to  Gail A Crosby

What fish

Henchman Of Justice
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Henchman Of Justice
7 years ago
Reply to  SickOFit

Get surveillance, record about 72 hours worth, review video, and guaranteed you will have a violation of law that a sheriff deputy must make a report on.

After a few reports with surveillance video as evidence, a restraining order may be attained against the individuals, but papers must be served by sheriff as homeless scum have no addresses.

Time and money still sacrificed…..maybe all the businesses can deny the scum services, use the fact that the money is dirty money from drugs and by law a business does not have to take money from a consumer if the money to be exchanged is suspected of being involved in previous criminal activity……profiling works legally too!!!

SickOFit
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SickOFit
7 years ago

‘MAKE GARBERVILLE GREAT AGAIN’……. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA best laugh I have had in a while!!! I like it …WE NEED BUMPER STICKERS thanks RECALL ESTELLE although I like Estelle Fennel……I feel so confused…!!!!!

Hugo
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Hugo
7 years ago

What is that back to the lander hippie grower mantra: ‘F*** the cops, f*** CAMP, U.S outta Humboldt Country’ Sometimes you gotta watch what you wish for. Enjoy.

JJ
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JJ
7 years ago
Reply to  Hugo

Having guys repel from helicopters into your front yard with large guns pointed at your kids face while scaring your livestock as you sit in handcuffs for hours watching the cops steal your stuff and destroy your house is way different than wanting law enforcement to do their actual job to “protect and serve”.

I personally never heard anyone complain about cops in town over the years. Nor did I witness police violence in town, which was always a pleasant surprise considering their actions in the hills on private property.
If we truly did get the US out of humboldt then we would be allowed to take care of problems on our own but as it stands if your biz gets broken into and the sheriff’s have no one on duty to help you have to sit and watch your store get looted on security cameras but you aren’t allowed to go beat the bastards yourself. Really , how many places are there where you call the cops and they say sorry we won’t have anyone on duty to help you for at least 5 more hours????
We all pay for a basic service we are supposed to get and are not receiving. Its due time the HCSO start responding and investigating appropriately instead of picking and choosing who they help. Has anyone out there reported a home robbery and actually had them fingerprint your place and pursue the case? They wouldn’t even take my address when I reported mine but I do know someone who got a little help after her 6th breakin.

Henchman Of Justice
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Henchman Of Justice
7 years ago
Reply to  JJ

Exactly!!!!!

veterans friend
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veterans friend
7 years ago
Reply to  JJ

I heard an early morning radio program on KMUD that said prop Z generated $$$ to hire 30 new deputies. WHERE ARE THEY? Sure as hell not here

Henchman Of Justice
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Henchman Of Justice
7 years ago

Funds being used to buy $300,000.00 armored vehicles that will stand parked and unused for the majority of the vehicles useable serviced lifespan.

Funds not going to pension people………vigilanteism is your true justice.

silverlining
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silverlining
7 years ago

The guy in the red striped shirt has is a real piece of work that has harassed at least one child I was told,

So Hum Gal
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So Hum Gal
7 years ago

Its about time that something is being done about all the crap that goes on there. How many locals actually get to enjoy the town square. Very few because most of us dont find enjoyment in what all is going on there. I feel bad for those who live or have businesses close by it. What is happening at the square is exactly what a large number of the community members said would happen. It seems we can not have anything nice in our community without it being abused. We as a community have got to stand together to put a stop to all the crap that is happening or it will get even worse than it all ready is.
It is really sad that we the ones trying to make our community a better and safer place to live were far out numbered tonight by the protesters, most of which are the ones abusing our community. What do you think that leads the protesters to believe? Maybe that they are stronger than the community and can continue to do as they please regardless of what we think?
Wake up and smell the crap that your allowing to happen in our community and if your ok with it then continue on as you have, but if not then help put a stop to it.

Who
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Who
7 years ago
Reply to  So Hum Gal

Well said and true we need to stand together . Or we sink together.

John
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John
7 years ago

Should’ve always stayed a parking lot

Rachelle
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Rachelle
7 years ago

How about a community poker game? The pot goes towards one way bus tickets to, say Florida.

Greyhound bus tickets to Florida are around 200.00. Greyhound also lists free wifi.

For 10,000.00 the community could bus about 50 homeless out of here.

Consider it a donation for a safer tomorrow!

Polo
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Polo
7 years ago
Reply to  Rachelle

The county has a program that pays for bus tickets for folks to leave. The problem is the amount being bussed to our area from larger city areas under similar programs.

John
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John
7 years ago
Reply to  Rachelle

I’ll donate a bus ticket and I’m just a broke ass worker

Saucy
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Saucy
7 years ago
Reply to  Rachelle

Actually someone should just do everybody a favor and show up in garberville with there grow dozer and a huge enclosed trailer, advertising that there are ‘free drugs and beer in the trailer’ Once they got a good enough load, THEN drive them to florida. it would be way cheaper then buying them all bus tickets.

Rachelle
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Rachelle
7 years ago
Reply to  Saucy

Maybe cheaper? What if they burn down the trailer on the ride out? Lmao.

Just like bears, if people stop feeding them, they will eventually leave.

If someone needs trimmers, please do not hire off the curbs.

That only perpetuates the legend of free weed from strangers.

AnonymousHumboldtian
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AnonymousHumboldtian
7 years ago
Reply to  Rachelle

It would be a revolving door. Bus 50 out, and 50 new ones will show up to take their place.

Elect Fence Builder
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Elect Fence Builder
7 years ago

Incorporate Garberville/Redway. We’d get our own police department and there are plenty of egos that would step up and run for mayor.

GladIMovedToFerndale
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GladIMovedToFerndale
7 years ago

Enough is Enough. Bring back the Vagrant Laws that allowed the police to physically eject the bums from town. Garberville should not have to be a dumping place where the drug addicted and mentally ill get to act out their problems front and center. We get the message: They need help. But Garberville does not have the resources to fix their problems and should not have to bear the burden of California’s underfunded mental health programs. If they need to act out, let them do it in their camps away from town. Garberville should not have to be an open air insane asylum.

Hope
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Hope
7 years ago

It’s not a real town square if you have to fence people out. It’s funny how we give names to places that that embody freedom and the democratic process … Until it’s inconvenient!

Eastside
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Eastside
7 years ago
Reply to  Hope

It’s not a town square if it’s been overrun by transients, drug addicts and drunks either.

Hopeful
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Hopeful
7 years ago

What about collecting donations at all the local businesses and hiring a security guard or two to walk Garberville (and separately, Redway). Files could be reported, which might then get the further help of an actual law enforcement officer.

G-ma
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G-ma
7 years ago

G-VILLE you shouldn’t have to apologize for taking back your town!!!EUREKA,needs to do the same!!!I’m behind you,YOU GO G-VILLE

Taurus Balzhoff
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Taurus Balzhoff
7 years ago

Goobsterdam. Said it before, got no use for the place. Hope you don’t either. It’s been over the line out of control for so long, and the locals are still talking about cleaning it up.
My recommendation, everyone stay away, especially after dark. There is nothing good in Garberville.

Taurus Balzhoff
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Taurus Balzhoff
7 years ago

There should also be an orange fence around Jerold Phelps Hospital. Idiots in charge, staffed by hostile xenophobic locals and temps who run screaming out the door after a week or so, demanding drug crazies who live by the river and get treated for free: what’s not to like? Close this disfunctional eyesore. SHCHD – A great place to die or be pronounced dead. Even the board members don’t use it!

Seamus
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Seamus
7 years ago

Looks like the only protesters are the fools who were run out of the square. That’s not really a protest, that is just loitering.

Henchman Of Justice
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Henchman Of Justice
7 years ago

Kym,

This thread has the most respondents in agreement than any thread you have ever posted, except for the killer mom in hiding threads…..The town of Garberville needs a flood of scum cleaning actions.

james
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7 years ago

yes—-about time—-thank you square board members for the closure—-free food at the Mateel—-free food at the church– —I do not see many locals at these feedings—-just the meth campers who end up selling and trading the food we give them—-tough love starts NOW–I do not see how giving them restrooms and showers will help this—–have you seen the sprawling community at the Sprowel rd. offramp ? there will soon be fire, pray for those who have homes and families nearby.–if you really care —–pick one of the bunch and make that person your project, take that human and give him/her housing and all the things you think are not available to them—let us know how that works out for you —at least 2 of our homeless advocates have plenty of property that they could build their “community” on how about it P and D ?—the people you see everyday in front of town businesses are drug addicts and dealers——until this crap is cleaned up our family is NOT coming into this ghetto—as a thirty year resident this is heartbreaking—-whats with the old guy who is in front of the theater everyday , smoking crappy weed with his lawn chair showing newcomers that this is acceptable behavior, saw him give a joint to a 12 year old ? the girl selling meth and trinkets in front of the credit union ? the frigging gas stations ? we are becoming pro active in the cove after the most recent offenses… take photos,license numbers,report,share info.

Rick
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Rick
7 years ago
Reply to  james

My family’s first visit to G-ville , 18 years ago ; there was a place in town , warning people not to share needles , so we w ernt surprised with the dread locked hitch hikers or smelling pot at our motel….but it seems to of become a problem from what ive read here , we are planning a return trip but perhaps we will stay in another town around the ave of the giants drive , you folks live in a beautiful place….sad to see its turned ugly in so many ways

Henchman Of Justice
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Henchman Of Justice
7 years ago

Officially, so we are clear, you don’t have a right to sit anywhere on private property not your own, nor public property not available for sitting……..BUT,

Scumbags never have a problem finding anywhere to scum out and sit……try a road or a sidewalk.

Hollow promises
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Hollow promises
7 years ago

Unfortunately when the town square was first proposed, there was a LOT of feedback given to the people running the town square about safety concerns; who was going to monitor it so it did not become an unsafe place where violence and drug dealing would take hold.
Before people opened their wallets to help buy the lot, we wanted to know how this was going to work.
The town square board, especially Jared Rossman, continued to make promises and assurances that that would not happen there at the town square. That he had people tHat were going to volunteer to monitor it to keep it safe.
Where is Jared rossman when we need him? And those other board members that also made that promise?What happened to their promises to keep the square drug and violence free? Pretty hollow right now.

spam
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spam
7 years ago

It was created as a venue. Pure and simple, Living in town and dealing with all this plus their amplified ‘events’ has and is hell.

How is it appropriate to vibrate my house for 7 hours with dub? Or even more charming; the tightrope walker/propane cannon bullshit some years back. Any vets living here? How about dogs in the neighborhoods?

And, nope, I sure don’t hang out there….I’m sick of huffing cig smoke when I don’t even smoke, and seeing all the blatant disrespect displayed by the hordes of mopes.

And NO, John Hardin, it is NOT appropriate to have dogs (pitts with balls??) off leash in Garbageville. That interview you did with that homeless man was so full of shit it isn’t funny. How nice that you and Amy live up on the hill and only come to town once a week….

Henchman Of Justice
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7 years ago
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Hardin is a crackpot, no sense of reality or he’s just a not so good bullshitter.

Soilent Green is made of People! IT'S MADE OF PEOPLE!
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Soilent Green is made of People! IT'S MADE OF PEOPLE!
7 years ago

Send in the Scoops!

Eastside
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Eastside
7 years ago

It’s a pretty sad comentary that SO MANY people have come to live in the bushes and spend their time assembling together to do drugs, drink and be as unproductive as possible. They have no problem tresspassing and trashing other people’s property because they can. By their behavior it’s obvious they don’t respect the town in any way other than it being a resource to be a parasite on. They don’t work, don’t pay taxes, don’t spend money and are a burden on people that are just trying to live a normal life. They are unpredictable and some are completely unstable and prone to violence. I don’t know what the answer is but this gets worse every year. This used to be a nice open town. Now fences have gone up in quite a few places as a response to bad behavior . The fact that there was a “protest ” by these people at shutting down the square shows just how entrenched they are in thinking the town is theirs to use and abuse.

silverlining
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silverlining
7 years ago
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Apparently they think they are in ‘ people’s park ‘ or some such thing.
Garberville is not Berkeley.

Candid camera
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Candid camera
7 years ago

Putting up High resolution surveillance cameras would be a good start.

Henchman Of Justice
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Henchman Of Justice
7 years ago
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Exactly, don’t fear the camera, it is a friend……must have audio!

Dyerville Loop is Not Alderpoint
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Dyerville Loop is Not Alderpoint
7 years ago

Ditto on Eastsides well written comment.I wish i would been there. would have been a great chance to practice my non violence training on these entitled bums.

Someone
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Someone
7 years ago

The homeless are never going to leave this area. There’s too many drugs available. Businesses like diamattos and the liquor store handing out free pizza to these guys. The programs that give them free phones and even vet care for their dogs. There are so many great worthless leech programs in place for these people. And in return the bums leave used needles, trash, liquor bottles, and all other forms of filth on the lovely land here. They beat up locals who say things to them about their trashed areas. I dont feel bad for bums that are mentally ill due to over long use of hard drugs. These filth stains are just that. They bring nothing good to these areas. All they do is beg, thieve, harass people that actually work for money, beat up people for uncalled for reasons and trash everything. Can we send them to cuba or something?

Henchman Of Justice
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7 years ago
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So, do you vote Democrat?

Love Conquer All
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Love Conquer All
7 years ago
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I know at least 5 people who have recieved free shots n nuts cut for their dogs at the vet. they ate at the mateel. They all got jobs. Thay all found lil decent places to live and not 1 is a junkie or disrespectful. Yes there are drainbows but not everyone on the rd is a loser. Were people living in their cars during the depression treated this way? Im sure the folks had all nasty stuff to say about them then too.

All this rhetorical hatred. Did you all look past the fact it was local raised children that stabbed the homeless man, who is such an alcoholic he barely stands. The most defenseless in the bunch. Hummm i wonder where these local kids got it in his head to hate & attack a homeless man? They better hope that loser lives cause they could be tried as adults if he dies. Also this is not the first time children acted out hatred taught by the adults in their lives. Remember the homeless man sleeping on the loading dock in redway? Beaten to death!

Everyone on here is die, lock em up in camps and ship overseas. These children hurt someone and you hate the homeless more? How many of your children must go to jail before you realize this is just a pattern if insanity!

Red Neck Mama
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7 years ago

I have to wonder, are the property owners liable for the cost of care for the man who was brutally beaten there? As well as the other crimes committed on the square. I am pretty sure I could be sued or arrested for contributing to a minor on my private property.hm?
I really like all the comments and want you all to know it’s happening all over Humboldt Co. Maybe we can look to Garberville for a good solution.

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7 years ago
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It is not just Hum Co. it is everwhere. In the last 2 weeks I have been all over Cali. San Diego, Bay Area, Santa Rosa. Same everywhere. In San Diego, street sweepers out every night cleaning up the mess and not the mechanized type, at least the scum give others folks jobs. The meth epidemic seems to be everywhere. I try to have a Christian/Muslim outlook of caring for the less foetunate, but it is hard with folks who don’t seem to want to help themselves.

Henchman Of Justice
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7 years ago
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No, the perp is responsible.

Alone
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Alone
7 years ago

Hate the homeless. Revere the grower. I bet if u got rid of the growers the homeless would follow.

G-ma
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G-ma
7 years ago

What about the loitering laws,they still exist right?If they don’t own property,or rent a house or have a job they shouldn’t be there.they harass people for money to buy drugs,not eat.so why give it to them?they’ve made it to the point of people being afraid.I won’t give change out anymore.because I feel like I’m not helping them,but contributing to the problems.so sad where everything is going these days.im praying for all of us,to find a solution.Theres alot of smart folks out there!!!

Ed Clark, NMT
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Ed Clark, NMT
7 years ago

I worked at a physical therapy office next to the old parking lot. There were tailgate parties outside my office every day. We had to ask people not to smoke joints and bongs on the sidewalk because the smoke came in our windows. I was hopeful that the Town Square might improve the situation, and it actually did in the beginning. Then we started getting an influx of entitled, rude, belligerent sub-humans hanging around. If you asked them to clean up their trash, they would flip you off. If you asked them to abide by the no smoking, no alcohol policy, they blew smoke in your face, and shattered bottles. If you asked them to clean up their dog shit, you’d find your office windows smeared with dog shit that was HURLED with such force that it splattered all over the windows. I grew to hate working over there because the main population in the Square showed absolutely no respect for the businesses or people surrounding the Square. Two members of the Town Square board used to work right on the Square, but they have both relocated their businesses. It needs to remain closed until it can be opened in a way that people feel safe and respected. Perhaps we need an Unwelcome Wagon more than we need a Town Patrol? Something, for God’s sake, that will clearly communicate THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR THAT WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. ANY. MORE.

Proper substation staffing request
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Proper substation staffing request
7 years ago

my 2 cents for a solution go to supervisor meetings yell ,beg ,and plead for something I believe we had in the past, a properly staffed substation.we all pay ( lots of taxes)for services that are not being met.. If the county can spend three hundred thousand on a bearcat ( armored personnel carrier).but can’t properly staff the substation! we have a leadership failure …

Henchman Of Justice
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Henchman Of Justice
7 years ago

No failure, they just good at lying to your face and shitting down your throat!

N. Choiring
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N. Choiring
7 years ago

Perhaps the sheriffs sitting in their office with an occasional roll out in a vehicle isn’t the most efficient use of their time. They could sit in their vehicles in a few places in town and that would discourage a lot of drug dealing… temporarily… or walk around some more?!

Critter
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Critter
7 years ago

Agreed

I love the town square
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I love the town square
7 years ago

Please see below the minutes from the town square last meeting.

I love the town square
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I love the town square
7 years ago

Minutes Sept 7/16 Garberville Town Square Board Meeting
Attendance: Donna King, Jared Rossman, Dennis Bourassa, Season George, Robie Torino, Nancy George
Absent: Susan Mazur, Hans Wurian
Guests; Michelle Hernandez, Josh Sweet
Meeting began at 10am

Season asked port o potty company to move Josh’s port o potty to behind utilities

Taun had sent an email around asking if we should pay the insurance in payments or all at once? We voted to pay all at once. Nancy contacted Taun

Candlelight Vigil Sept 12 6pm GTS will happen as planned with the approval of her family.

Harvest Fiesta Oct 7 –
A Committee Meeting should be scheduled for next week (does the afternoon or evening of the 14th or 15th work for those who’d like to attend?).
Ask Tara to decorate and gather decor crew. Teamo – corn stalks
Susan – meat
Donna – food
Jared – tables and chairs
Hans’ crew for clean up
Nancy and Season on beverages, beer and wine
Dennis – wine donation?
Fiesta challenges: No vets hall, utensils, clean up, looking at Healy and borrowing from Amelias.
Volunteers are needed Nancy has three Donna has help with food, need volunteers for clean up.

Restroom –
Donna gave report. Jim has drawings, Kash has been informed of draft. Storage frame and stucco, bathroom steel. We were given a quote for the steel fabricated in Miranda everyone was pleased with the price and in agreement. Handwash station and two drinking fountains will be installed. GRWPRG has the $3000 for drinking fountain. Hose for wash out will be located inside storage shed and length will wrap around entire building. Frame and stucco will be covered by Dennis. Jim and bathroom group will pay for steel. Steve Dazy has agreed to donate at the end of the year 2016.

Discussion of the addition of a multi purpose security kiosk located near the entrance or Josh’s storage container to ensure a presence on the square. Robie suggested that Hans would be good with handling that. Kash was in agreement at the last meeting he attended.

11:00 Michelle Hernandez Eel River Holistics
Ciggarette smoke comes into open windows inside Holistics office, amplified music is too loud on Friday Farmers Market, bad energy of some people on the square

Trash on far corner by apartments seems to stay fuller. Should move one more trash can down to that side.

Board and Michelle agree that the Sheriff is not doing their job. Example: No one comes after calls are made, man exposing himself and drunk in public was not arrested but left on the square after the sheriff came. Donna will resend all approvals to Sheriff. Donna and Josh Sweet went to talk to Sheriff after the meeting.

11:30 Josh Sweet and Sophie
They arrived asked if we could move the meeting to a private location. The board refused. When asked why Josh said because I don’t like these people. He stated he is frustrated with the GTS board. He has offered his services and support. Robie asked for clarification on support. Donna mentioned before his arrival that she will be sending Josh a bill for monthly rental of parking for storage container.
There were complaints from both Michelle and Josh regarding conflicting messages on signs that were hung in kiosk and those on trees. Nancy removed the rules in the kiosk. The board has agreed to make signs clear and permanent. New signs ordered?
A 6 page petition and a 2 page letter from Ernie Branscomb with both complaints and positive comments was presented to the Board asking for a temporary closure of the square until a solution could be found. We said that we would participate in their request and agreed to write up an MOU stating that the cost and labor involved would fall solely on Josh and Sophie. The construction fence would need to be removed for all events including the candlelight vigil, Harvest Fiesta and Farmers Market , etc… and then put up again after event. They have 60 days to find a solution which David Bourassa and Josh agreed to work to facilitate discussion and action plan together. The fence will be removed in 60 days regardless. Josh will post signs on the fence as to why the park is closed. Nancy called the Independent Newspaper with leads and a statement.
A possible solution was recommended that those who signed the petition be asked for a monthly donation to pay a Justice of the Peace to patrol all of Garberville.

Ask Curtis to limb up trees on corner behind CCUSH

Old News:
Rita’s – will be there 12 months out of the year and should begin in a while from now.
Cameras – to be installed waiting on completion of remodel of Chautauqua
John Furdado – Has been paid by Donna and Donna was repaid by Taun for his weekly cleaning and watering etc of square
New Bench – Not yet installed. Also we have bricks that have arrived. Another brick order for Stephanie will be ordered soon.

Meeting adjourned 1:15pm

Next meeting Wednesday Oct 5, is canceled with a Fiesta meeting next week. Next Board meeting Wednesday November 2, 10am

Henchman Of Justice
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7 years ago
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Back at LOCO,

Kym complained about long posts, and other stuff.

Good to see Kym has now accepted long posts.

Thank You Kym in advance!

Sam Allsop
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Sam Allsop
7 years ago

The road to hell was paved with good and well meaning intensions. If the Town Square is a true 501c3, then they are a public benefit and charitable corporation, which is an oxymoron since you say its private property. If public donations and public funding was used to buy this property and if they are a public benefit corporation, then why are they closing the property to the public? The public is everyone, you don’t get to pick and choose, unfortunately you have to take the good with the bad. It just seems to me, not allot of thought went into any down side of building a town square and not expecting this activity to happen to some existent or at some level is beyond words. What does Tooby Park do to keep people they don’t want out, isn’t that a public park?

Henchman Of Justice
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Henchman Of Justice
7 years ago
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Ya, ironic how “the public” assumes everywhere and everything is all public…….cry a fucking river already.

Dragonfly707
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Dragonfly707
7 years ago

Headwaters funds, along with many other donations. funded the Town Square. This space was created for the community. Granted it is disturbing to see a bunch of addicts and extremely compromised homeless people dominating the space; however, using this excuse to manipulate access to a public space opens up a new can of worms. I would like to know how much it costs the tax payers to have the Sheriffs read the riot act to a bunch of homeless people. The Board has more than enough money to hire security. The one leading by hatred just purchased the old North Valley Bank block and has a shit load of [edit] money.

Obvious
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Obvious
7 years ago

It’s funny to see what you people of Garberville have let become of your town! I never lived in SoHum, always north or south of there but have some friends around there. Your community was always full of the arrogant, pompous, headier-than-thou hippies and we all laughed about it. People who thought they were more righteous just because they landed in the right time and space to make $$ growing weed in a beautiful place. You were not better than anybody, not better than the old rednecks- You were LUCKY. You have, or had more $$$ than anybody and you could have dealt with this increasing problem in some truly progressive way. Or using some discipline and self-policing! This problem didnt happen overnight and it was obvious what was creating it and nourishing it. But you went into denial, got insular in your hill mansions and selfish in your ways, yet always shouting about how “progressive” and “community-minded” you all were. So yeah- now your main town is a cesspool and we are all laughing at your stupid asses. Hope this helps!

spam
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spam
7 years ago
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Great comment.

Still wondering why it’s OK for amplified events lasting hours on the ‘town square’…does the board ever ask for feedback from RESIDENTS???

Party on SoHum….the only ‘community’ that I can see is only if you are a participant in the dope trade. The rest of us are SOL and at the mercy of the few.

I see both sides of the homeless issue but I don’t think closing the ‘town square’ off is going to solve a nationwide/(worldwide) economic problem.

Thanks, capitalism. The greed here on the micro is just a reflection of the macro.

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7 years ago
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Thank you, this comment nailed it. The egomaniacal hippie drive back to the landers and their kids that didn’t flee you should read this comment over and over. Re-examine what you have become and how your mental psyche got to this point. Are you really truly happy with your life? Shed your ego and think.

Buzzard
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Buzzard
7 years ago

You can do a free APN search on the County website, the Town square is APN 032-044-001. Its zoned commercial and they pay property tax, school and hospital assessments. Which is funny if they are a tax exempt organization. But they are, they are listed as a 501c3 tax exempt org, last tax return was 2012 and show 3 different current loans with Board members for $58k in 2015.