Ten New Cases of COVID-19 Reported Today, August 5
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Ten new cases of COVID-19 were reported today. Humboldt County’s total case count stands at 255.
Today marks the first time a single day’s report reached double digits. Humboldt County Health Officer Dr. Frankovich said that hitting this milestone is unsurprising. “We’re no longer returning to periods with zero case counts as we did in the past. This indicates that there’s still more work to do to ensure that people understand the increasing risk of exposure when outside the home or when gathering with others,” she said. “Public Health is all of us right now. Every single person in our community plays a role in limiting transmission of this virus.”
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-08-05/hydroxychloroquine-and-coronavirus
This is thoroughly referenced article, so spare the Zerohedge ad hominem remarks.
I think it is time to query your neighbors and find out if they are supportive of mandatory forced vaccinations. This is part of a bigger psychological drill. I see people practically mimicking the worst attitude based on the idea that the world must have a vaccine forced into every humans body , and masked up so they can feel safe.
“Hydroxychloroquine Is ‘the Key to Defeating COVID-19’, Says Yale Epidemiologist
BY MATT MARGOLIS JUL 26, 2020 1:11 PM EST
AP Photo/John Locher
Harvey Risch, professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health, says that hydroxychloroquine is “the key to defeating COVID-19” in a Newsweek op-ed published this past week.”
“I am usually accustomed to advocating for positions within the mainstream of medicine, so have been flummoxed to find that, in the midst of a crisis, I am fighting for a treatment that the data fully support but which, for reasons having nothing to do with a correct understanding of the science, has been pushed to the sidelines,” Risch wrote. “As a result, tens of thousands of patients with COVID-19 are dying unnecessarily. Fortunately, the situation can be reversed easily and quickly.”
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/07/26/hydroxychloroquine-is-the-key-to-defeating-covid-19-says-yale-epidemiologist-n703802
Absolutely! Nobody even had to die!!
Nonsense. People who have be on hydroxychloroquine for other reasons have become infected. And even the studies that show it helped show only a small percentage of difference in death rates. There is no magic bullet.
If you read the article I posted above it appears that hydroxychloroquine is a catalyst for zinc in the body and not the main component.
That does not mean that “Nobody even had to die!!” It’s the irrationality of statements like that and the opposing “you’re going to kill grandma if you don’t wear a mask” that turn every thing into political extremism hate fests.
Not my comment. Everbody dies.
Everybody dies. For most of us, we’d rather not die before we normally would have. When someone’s child dies, it seems fairly insensitive to say ‘everybody dies.’ When someone’s partner dies, again it seems a bit insensitive to shrug off the loss with ‘everyone dies.’
I hear this phrase used with people who have medical conditions, who are older, etc and I wonder how can you be so blase with someone’s treasured time and the time their loved ones have with them.
You’re reading too much into it. It’s a simple counter to: “Nobody even had to die.”
Both seem unreasonable to me.
I’m not sure what is even being debated in this subthread.
Wishing away death is “unreasonable “. Nobody gets out of here alive. Our cultural aversion to facing this reality is bizarre to me. Of course this doesn’t mean you want people to die, but ignoring the reality of Death does not make it go away.
#firefauci
We’ve been lied to enough.
Throw down your damn masks and get on with it.
Do you own a business? How many employees do you have? Some of us want to continue to make a living. If that means I have to wear a mask to help keep my fellow citizens business doors open as well as my own, then so be it. Call me a sheeple if it makes you feel better. Some of y’all are so selfish and think that it’s all about you and your inconveniences that you are being put through.
Even though expressed aggressively, that is true. Unlike the wide spread government orders closing almost every business, wearing a mask is a relatively small thing to ask. Even if the person doing it questions it’s effectiveness.
Who controls your business?
You have to play by a set of rules and guidelines which can be amended and changed as the government sees fit.
When the government has repeated to lie and the corporate arm of the wealthy has censored voices, you might feel that your business needs more permission to operate than you’d care to admit.
Wearing a mask is intended to protect those around you. If you don’t care about yourself, that’s one thing but how do you justify not caring about your family, neighbors, friends or the people in your community. It’s the height of selfishness.
Wearing a mask is a small thing to ask of you.
If you had to wager why this seem’s like a top down controlled operation, what is the best way to explain the unifying message of the MSM, and the censorship going on by big tech.
Is this a government and corporate push for something that is contrary to our long term health security?
Or is it possible that the government is being used to push a billion dollar..
only man made vaccine can save a humans from a man made virus?
How is it possible to not see the conflicts of interest in all of the top brass.
Controversies and Claims of Media Bias
ZeroHedge was banned from Twitter in February 2020; according to some, its last tweet referred to speculation the coronavirus could be a bioweapon, and BuzzFeed accused ZeroHedge of doxxing a Chinese scientist. As of June 2020, its account had been restored. ZeroHedge has been banned from other sites as well.
Writers on the left and right have referred to ZeroHedge as conservative; BuzzFeed referred to ZeroHedge as a “popular pro-Trump website,” and Gateway Pundit referred to ZeroHedge as a “top conservative and pro-Trump website.” Wikipedia refers to ZeroHedge as “a libertarian or right-wing financial blog,” and notes that it reflects an “adherence to the Austrian School of economics and credit cycles.” Wikipedia also says that ZeroHedge has “expanded into non-financial analysis, such as conspiracy theories and fringe rhetoric that has been associated with the Radical right (United States) and a pro-Russian bias.”
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/zerohedge-media-bias
A’s rover said, it was a well documented article, without you making it political or making qualifications about the people who write for zero hedge.
If you think zero hedge is lacking veritas, then you are stuck in the left right paradigm.
It’s a class war, Seth, and we need to focus on why we think articles as above aren’t truthful.
Twitter is not some authority on what is proper. Do you know who funds Twitter?
https://qz.com/519388/this-saudi-prince-now-owns-more-of-twitter-than-jack-dorsey-does/
Even the term assigning an agenda as “pro Russian” exposes the bigotry in the of that comment.
The fact that you look for “thoroughly referenced” articles on zerohedge is hilarious.
It’s like finding a thoroughly cleaned piece of trash at the dump.
Everyone’s like, “why you in the trash”?
But I looked at the junk anyway…
It’s promoting zinc, essentially. But it promotes zinc through HXC. Here’s what ended the article for me:
…some have warned of dangerous side effects of hydroxychloroquine (I won’t give you my own opinion on this issue; make up your own mind). And hydroxychloroquine is important for people with certain conditions such as lupus, and so- if everyone took hydroxychloroquine – it would create a shortage for those people.
More importantly, even those who believe that hydroxychloroquine is helpful against Covid say that it is only effective if taken very soon after catching the disease.
So, choose to believe what the you will.
Or take it from this Republican Florida lawmaker:
After two weeks battling COVID-19, State Rep. Randy Fine (R-Palm Bay) posted on Facebook that he needed his lungs X-rayed as his symptoms now included a recurring fever and a hacking chest cough. He remarked that the hydroxychloroquine therapy he had been on proved ineffective.
“I’ve had a cold who knows how many times. I have never had to deal with anything like this. And for those who want to believe that (hydroxychloroquine) is some kind of magic solution, I’ve been taking that too (I don’t oppose it, but I am tired of people pretending it is magic),” he wrote in the post.
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/20200805/sorry-to-burst-magic-bubble-says-florida-lawmaker-of-hydroxychloroquine-as-he-battles-covid-19
https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Zinc-Consumer/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6628855/
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2020/04/01/ask-the-expert-the-role-of-diet-and-nutritional-supplements-during-covid-19/
The first three references.
All those have nothing to do with Hydroxychloroquin.
They are just about zinc.
But zerohedge twisted all that into a “please believe in hydroxychloroquin” article.
Keep reading.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4182877/
https://www.openpr.com/news/2081108/3-clioquinol-cream-a-likely-zinc-medication-for-preventing
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However, it is difficult for zinc to get into your cells unless it catches a ride from a “zinc ionophore”. An ionophore is just a substance which transports things across the lipid boundary of your cells.
Hydroxychloroquine is a zinc ionophore.
Another drug, clioquinol, is even more potent. One of the scientists who discovered that chloroquine is a zinc ionophore (Dr. Wei-Qun Ding from the University of Oklahoma) told me that he estimates that clioquinol is 10 times more powerful as a zinc ionophore compared to hydroxychloroquine.
Leslie Costello – an oncology professor at the University of Maryland – agrees that clioquinol is a more powerful zinc ionophore than hydroxychloroquine:
ZnClioquinol [i.e. clioquinol zinc ionophore] has a zinc-binding affinity of logKf=7-8; which is ideal for the competitive binding of most of the plasma zinc that exists in the exchangeable ZnLigands. In contrast, chloroquine zinc ionophore (ZnChloroquine) has a logKf=5-6. Consequently, it competitively binds with much less zinc that is delivered to the … site.
Based on a number of “Studies from the United States, the United Kingdom, Brazil, and Spain [which] looked at whether hydroxychloroquine prevented people from getting infected with the coronavirus, or helped them recover faster.
All of the studies randomly assigned patients to treatment and control (non-treatment) groups.
None of the studies found that hydroxychloroquine made a difference.”
See the sources for this fact-check https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/05/brett-giroir/yes-least-five-randomized-controlled-studies-say-h/
Again, this article is about zinc and the mechanism hydroxychloroquine provides to carry the zinc so it can work. They work together.
A more reasoned view- https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/coronavirus-vaccine-hydroxychloroquine-hcq-covid-19-treatment-6504276/
Because what the fact checking article did was evaluate whether there were were 5 studies showing hydroxychloroquine was ineffective- but that of course is not the same as evaluating either the studies themselves or the drug itself. The article decided that, while incorrect in some parts of his statement, the parts that were incorrect were not material enough to decide he lied. The studies that were in any conflict at all with Girior’s statement were dismissed or minimized as not statistically clear. The fact checking did not resolve the conflict between the antiTrump press wanting attack Trump on everything including his belief of the effectiveness of the drug and the fact that it is not such an either-or thing as they want it to be for political purposes.
Trump is anti-press, a stalwart of America.
Trump called the press the “enemy of America”.
The press never called Trump the “enemy of America”.
Get it straight.
Just because the press shuts him off during his ral-lies of pandemic briefings don’t mean anything other than they chose to protect Smerica from his ignorant bullshit.
Nonsense ranting.
You never answered me.
Do you think Trump became a “realist” before or after telling Americans his lawyers had proof that Obama was a Kenyan?
And Trump did call the Press the “enemy”.
So who’s got the nonsense rantings?
Your trolling again. You said yourself that the press shuts him off during his briefings. Thats a huge problem right there, only you are so biased and invested in your feelings that you refuse to see that as the entire issue in a nut shell. Instead, you take it one step further and call it a good thing. We have the 1st Amendment, freedom of speech.
The articles are about zinc.
The articles are not about Covid and hydroxychloroquin.
So. You believe in it.
Trump2020, just for you, I could careless.
How many deaths and how many are in the icu.
255 infections and 4 deaths, what’s that bring the local mortality rate to?
Answer
1.56 percent
Oh, and all those deaths were people over 90 years old ….
Exactly right!!
Correct. “Case” numbers only serves to demonstrate what has been obvious for months already – this is not a big deal unless you are already in very poor health. Those in very poor health can decide for themselves what steps to take to avoid risk and the rest of us will gladly help them because we’re not cruel, heartless bastards. In the meantime, we will get on with our lives which have already been dramatically altered by this massive flub by professional medicine.
10 Cases closer to reopening and herd immunity. Good job, keep on living life. Corona fears are just that: fears.
test
test
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/pandemic-border/bio-surveillance-invisible-borders-and-dangerous-after-effects-covid-19-measures/
Long after the COVID-19 pandemic is over, we may continue to be affected by its residue. New ultra-sophisticated technologies of bio-surveillance will trace people in novel relations of power in political spaces of im/mobility. In this evolving reality, shifting borders are increasingly wielded to determine who deserves passage through the otherwise bolted gates of admission. If the body will become our ticket for mobility and subsistence (or conversely, a trigger for its denial), the risks and opportunities for use and abuse are immense.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/new-york-city-to-set-up-covid-checkpoints-at-bridges-and-tunnels-2020-08-05
The Sheriff’s Office will coordinate with other law enforcement agencies to run the checkpoints at major bridge and tunnel crossings, such as the Lincoln Tunnel and the George Washington Bridge. Officers will likely carry out random, as opposed to targeted, checks and ask those passengers to fill out the state’s traveler health form, New York City Sheriff Joe Fucito said at Wednesday’s briefing. The mayor’s Public Engagement Unit will also deploy people to stop travelers at Penn Station and the Port Authority starting Thursday.
Refusal to fill out the form can result in a $2,000 fine under state law….
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/08/02/victoria-australia-state-of-disaster-melbourne-lockdown-from-covid-19-coronavirus/#4f9dd0ae1d7e
As you can see, Melbourne will now have a curfew every day between 8 p.m. and 5 a.m., during which residents will be only able to leave home for work, medical care and caregiving. Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews explained, “Where you slept last night is where you’ll need to stay for the next six weeks. There’ll be exemptions for partners who live apart and for work, if required.”
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/3965/cosponsors?searchResultViewType=expanded
this is not even considering the soon to be homeless and starving, the middle class destruction and independent business erasure. every day repeat this mantra, “they control us because they care”
Zero new deaths. Zero new hospitalizations.
Cannibus is legal
It’s interesting to see the areas in this country with poor education and the phenomenon of non compliance. It’s not just the economically poor areas either the silver spoon areas where students just get pushed along are just as bad. Maybe it’s just ignorance in the poor areas and selfishness in the wealthy areas.
This literally is becoming a social disease that preys on people who have always been selfish and non compliant and lack basic good morals.
Why are you so interested in compliance? Do you believe it is virtuous to follow the commandments of people who neither have the authority nor wisdom to justify it? Your life is your own responsibility and the people setting the terms of compliance have a terrible track record – anyone who does even a tiny bit of thinking on the topic can conclude that based on the extensive real world data we have gathered over the past six months. Let me save you some time: masks do almost nothing in most contexts, the lockdowns are ineffective and pointless, and the disease is unremarkable, preventable with normal immune health, and also treatable with long-available and safe medicines.
All of this is clear and true and GOOD news. Rejoice and stop demanding others cower in fear so you can avoid looking inside yourself and identifying what is really bothering you.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/08/01/the-sociologist-who-could-save-us-from-coronavirus/
This is a thoughtful read about why it’s so hard to get Amuricans to pitch in and help the whole.
Sure are a lot of turmups out tonight
They lurk everywhere and are a majority on any forum that does not make serious efforts to hide their opinions. Would you prefer a filtered, fake view of what the public believes and thinks or an honest and open forum that allows you to fully gauge how your community views the world?
What’s sad for me as a so called “Turmups”, is to see how all these ignorant facks go on and on about how it’s a hoax this and that. You do realize, that your creating a division amongst the right. Not everyone who voted trump thinks this is a hoax and is a conspiracy theorist. I’d wager big that Trump loses in November, and it will be because of your ignorance and denial of this virus. If everyone had been on board with defeating this virus unified since day one, Trump would be re elected in a landslide victory. But….. you all are too inconvenienced to put on a facking mask and even go as far as giving people who do wear masks a hard time.
How do you rectify the fact that the Nordic countries plus Finland and the Dutch have almost no mask wearing standards and have a pretty low case rate? I understand the use of of surgical masks, properly donned and doffed, in close quarter settings where social distancing is not possible, but the idea that masks should be worn in every social setting, all the time has no evidentiary reality.
And the, “Just wear your damn masks!” is just parroting the ‘authorities’ treatment of all of us like toddlers.
The Netherlands has a CFR of 11.4% according to one source I saw. Finland was at 4.4%. The US is at 3.4%. Per capita the US has the 10th highest COVID death rate and you know which country is higher on the list? Sweden.
Many of you are acting like a toddlers.
Saying masks are tyrannical, downplaying the numbers, promoting junk medicine…anything you can do to fuck with the reality.
Like Herman Cain.
Nordic countries have a very different lifestyle. They already work from home, mostly, are supported by their socialized government more than us, and live further apart – in general.
Forget your Nordic dreams.
How do you explain anti-masking rhetoric to Herman Cains family?
Shared indoor conditioned air for 15 minutes or more is the primary contagion context. Distancing and masking helps but is a false security. For brief indoor encounters or longer close encounters outdoors masking has some positives about 10 times or a little less. The difference between indoor and outdoor transmission is a factor of between 36 and 1000. Meaning that if you simply move outdoors you reduce your chances of contagion by 36 times (or as much as 1000 times).
Sunlight and changing temperature and wind conditions make outside environments quickly lethal to viruses.
For all of the masked screamers, just move outside and shut up. Keep your mask on if you like. For all of the unmasked screamers, just stay outside.
Gotta go to the store where management doesn’t enforce masking rule and I’m fresh out of minions to do my commands.
I cannot keep myself (or my loved ones) safe as long as this bullshit continues.
Fine ’em. Your breath is a weapon.
and I don’t want to hear some fucking shit about OSHA and “masks don’t work”…If my mask only is 30% effective, and your mask is 30% effective, between us we have a 60% better chance of avoiding the rona.
Seriously; turn off the TV. There’s better information out there but you might have to think…
Go in the early morning when the viral load will be least. Brief encounters are far less important than prolonged presence. Contact tracing now disregards any indoor shared air contact of less than 10 minutes (15 or 20 in many jurisdictions).
An early study out of Wuhan found only 2 customers becoming infected in a store at which 20-40 staff were infected (prolonged interactions once again).
As with almost all social risks, your family is your most likely source of contagion (or murder or exposure to political incorrectness). Last I knew household infection was greater than 50% of cases. Be prepared for sheltering separately should anyone in your household get the disease and be cautious because highest contagion is before symptoms.
If you really like stress keep adding to yours and everyone else’s. Of course that makes you a major health risk to yourself and family members.
Since my previous reply to Ullr seems to have disappeared for a bit for some reason, here’s the gist:
Both the Dutch (11.4%) and the Finns (~5%, I forget the exact number) have higher CFR than the US (3.4%). And while the US is 10th in per capita deaths to COVID-19, the Swedes and Denmark are higher (Denmark is #2).
The CFR alone doesn’t paint a clear picture. Compare that along with the test rates. The USA is approaching 200 tests per 1000 people and the Nordic countries are around 80-90 per 1000 people.
So if we look at the data on Finland and the Netherlands the way you want us to it, supports your position on no-masks but when you look at the data in a way that doesn’t support that position it isn’t a clear picture. Isn’t that kind of the epitome of cherry-picking?
The data are always going to be incomplete, that’s the basic problem of almost 8 billion people and 190 different nations doing things differently (e.g. masks, no masks, different lifestyles and healthcare systems, etc.) and then not testing the exact same way so you can get comparable data. You can nearly always find a bit of data that will support one view or another. That’s why we have epidemiologists to look at the data and interpret it. And they currently seem to support broad-scale mask use as a path to reducing the spread rate.
At some point, you have to take (or ignore) the advice of the consensus of scientists and other professionals in the field of interest and assume they know a ton more about the specifics than a self-educated or self-informed individual does because they have access not only to more data but they’ve spent years thinking about the problem, not a few hours or days.
Certainly it’s viable to raise questions and seek your own wisdom but when it flies in the face of the breadth of current knowledge then you are probably wrong.
It’s not a consensus. That is why the Dutch are refusing to mandate masks. I’m a data driven person. I don’t have an agenda. Wear a mask, fine, but it should be a reasonable use not driven by bad policy. Data has to be compared ‘apples to apples’ or the data is useless. The fact is that epidemiologists flubbed the projections from the beginning. There are no experts in the field of “2020 covid19 pandemic.” There will be in years when it can be studied, but everyone is learning and assessing as they go as more data become available.
Your ‘agenda’ is individual freedoms and independent livelihoods.
What you are looking at, is the data that counters the USA inc, mainstream narrative.
Many of us understand the importance of pushing back against the inevitable SEAT BELT LAW FOR Y/OUR FACES.
SO MANY PEOPLE contributing to the
CONSOLIDATion of POWER AND WEALTH.
Incredible what it took to Overcome rule by royalty aND the priest class.
Slipping Into darkNess with a world of SNITCHES AND SOCIALIST COMMUNISTS.
You haven’t figured out that this is largely a hoax yet? There is a real virus but it’s not serious. The reason the data scares you is your ignorance of what is normal in a given year.
Covid infects nearly no school age kids. Lack of schooling is a greater risk to their future than covid. Any Fortuna public school teachers and staff that refuse to perform their normal job functions should be considered as quit their job . They are certainly less valuable to society than store clerks that work every day. They’re forcing us to find other means to educate our kids, and we will, but there’s no future in education for these lazy and selfish public school employees.
There are no known cases of transmission from students to teachers. Schools are operating just fine all over the world. If the public school monopoly wants to die on this hill I welcome it.
Public Education SUCKS in USA
37TH IN THE WORLD.
Let all the teachers go find some other way to put covid into perspective.
Maybe a good look at some history of how the few control the many.
You people are just making shit up now.
Have you not heard about the summer camps, or schools in Israel? Pull your head out of your propaganda for crissake!!
This is a financial matter, too. Getting sick ain’t cheap, and you maskless idiots are roving weapons.
A link about the microstructural changes in the brain after contracting COVID
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2589-5370(20)30228-5
I wonder if stand your ground laws are applicable to the maskless asshat in the grocery line mocking me and getting into my space as a challenge? It’s assault. Plain ol’ assault. And those service workers put in untenable positions–work or starve…work can kill ya. USA USA USA!! How have other countries handled it? By paying people to stay home, by having single payer health care so it doesn’t cost hundreds of dollars to even be tested…and by preventative measures–like masks, hand-washing and staying the fuck home & gadding about. Most cases from community transmissions = ‘small gatherings’…
We’re number one!!!
There is no proven herd immunity. I don’t know how many times that must be repeated before it sticks…if only I had Faux Nooze as a tool.
You sound scared, Bro. It’s probably an overdose of the propaganda the media is feeding you.
It’s best you stay home, lock the door, and pull the curtains. The rest of us will go about our lives.
Be scared. Be really scared and don’t come out until there’s a 100% effective vaccine.
Crawl back up Richard Gere’s ass where you belong
I *am* scared: I don’t want to die, [edit]!
and I sure as shit don’t want to suffer for whatever time I have left with damages sustained from a disease my ‘neighbors’ (active agents of infection; weapons, really) refuse to acknowledge!
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻Thank you. I have begun farting on them openly.
Of course there is immunity. Thats how our body works against viruses. You can’t pay people to stay home, why would anyone go back to work? And how are we going to have a single payer health system if there is nobody working to pay the taxes? Are we just supposed to leech off the few businesses’ taxes that have been deemed essential? If so, how far would that actually go? You realize in order to pay people to stay home, we have to print more money. Printing money leads to inflation. Inflation is really messed up because it harms our most impoverished demographics the most. If you have $100,000 in the bank, and so much money is printed that our currency is devalued by half(this is for ease of math for those of you who have a hard time), that person’s $100,000 is still worth $50,000. If you are poor and have any savings at all, like $1000, and the same thing happens, your $1000 is now only worth $500. How will that impoverished individual survive?
On another note, allow me to call all of you out on your hypocrisy. In the midst of the Black Lives Matter movement, ya know, the biggest civil rights movement of our time(lol). Tell me why so many of you support policies that ensure the survival of “old white men” and are directly detrimental to the children(through the 90’s the common democrat saying was “its all for the children”), and support policies of economic shutdown and inflation that really harm communities of POC? You realize these policies sacrifice the long and short term well-being of “the children” and “POC” in order to directly benefit “old white men.”
And you got your degree where??
Crackers man.
We have a pandemic raging thru the country. THe US is #1 in active infections.
Keep on making shit up…or even better, turn off the TV and cast about for some news from other countries & see what they’ve done to mitigate the damage.
Biology, 2 years at CR and 2 years at HSU. I don’t have a TV. You dismiss factual information by saying crackers. There is no way someone can have a debate with someone like that. Its like trying to debate a 5 year old.
Yo–ME TOO!!
Hah. I’m an RN~
Got through before they killed the program? I got tired of the waiting list so I switched to biology.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/08/covid-19-immunity-is-the-pandemics-central-mystery/614956/
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Memory T cells induced by previous pathogens can shape the susceptibility to, and clinical severity of, subsequent infections1. Little is known about the presence of pre-existing memory T cells in humans with the potential to recognize SARS-CoV-2. Here, we first studied T cell responses to structural (nucleocapsid protein, NP) and non-structural (NSP-7 and NSP13 of ORF1) regions of SARS-CoV-2 in COVID-19 convalescents (n=36). In all of them we demonstrated the presence of CD4 and CD8 T cells recognizing multiple regions of the NP protein. We then showed that SARS-recovered patients (n=23) still possess long-lasting memory T cells reactive to SARS-NP 17 years after the 2003 outbreak, which displayed robust cross-reactivity to SARS-CoV-2 NP. Surprisingly, we also frequently detected SARS-CoV-2 specific T cells in individuals with no history of SARS, COVID-19 or contact with SARS/COVID-19 patients (n=37). SARS-CoV-2 T cells in uninfected donors exhibited a different pattern of immunodominance, frequently targeting the ORF-1-coded proteins NSP7 and 13 as well as the NP structural protein. Epitope characterization of NSP7-specific T cells showed recognition of protein fragments with low homology to “common cold” human coronaviruses but conserved amongst animal betacoranaviruses. Thus, infection with betacoronaviruses induces multispecific and long-lasting T cell immunity to the structural protein NP. Understanding how pre-existing NP- and ORF-1-specific T cells present in the general population impact susceptibility and pathogenesis of SARS-CoV-2 infection is of paramount importance for the management of the current COVID-19 pandemic.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z
Yes I have heard about the six million cases from Israeli camps. Upon investigation the claims were clearly dubious.
I believe they were talking about the camp/s in Georgia that had a huge outbreak.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6931e1.htm
Not sure where you heard about six million in Israeli camps. That’s a weird number to pull out of somewhere, especially regarding Israel.
They are talking about this:
“Israel was seen as a success story at the start of the pandemic after imposing a strict lockdown in March that curbed the spread of coronavirus. However, measures were gradually eased, with the government keen to limit the financial fallout and get parents back to work, and children returned to school in May.
But by the end of that month coronavirus was spreading through classrooms and authorities shut about 100 schools before the summer break, ordering thousands of pupils and teachers into quarantine.
The hardest-hit school was Jerusalem’s Gymnasium Rehavia, where 153 students and 25 staff tested positive, with some criticising the handling of the outbreak.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/05/covid-19-may-spread-more-easily-schools-than-thought-report-warns
And yes, the Gaurdian is a liberal paper, but it doesn’t have a paywall. There are other articles, but many of them do.
I am heartened by the comments here today……….This is a house of cards built on “cases” from a faulty, meaningless test.
I wish more people could see this, I had just about given up hope.
I’m struck by the irony present in many of the comments above — the folks clamoring the loudest to reopen schools and business are also the ones least willing to do simple things to make that possible.
It’s clear their preferred solution is to simply ignore the abundant data about the seriousness of uncontrolled widespread COVID-19 because it’s inconvenient to think about and they don’t see folks dropping dead in their backyard right now. Plus, it’s easy to ignore a problem if you don’t think it will affect you personally much, like if you are young and healthy. We’re really good at not giving a crap about what happens to people who aren’t us.
There issue is also that those who advocate everyone staying at home under every situation, besides the impossibility of their demands, have no understanding of the negative effects of doing that. Is that because they think they have a guaranteed income and think themselves immune from economic or social disruptions? Or maybe they would be fine with other people being hurt if it forwards their political agenda of widespread disaffection?
Frankly the “sigh ants” is not there for either case yet and may never be. “It’s probably unlikely that there will be a single solution but instead, there will need to be a collection of therapies, similar to what’s been done with HIV. We will probably need to have a cocktail of different drugs to help contain the virus.” https://www.forbes.com/sites/cognitiveworld/2020/08/05/your-lungs-can-fill-up-with-jell-o-scientists-discover-a-new-pathway-for-covid-19-inflammatory-response/#17a465ce24be
caint spend money when yr ded
get it??
the fucking economy is not more important than my life or my health —
The “the fucking economy” is directly related to your “life or my health —” Unless you live in a totally self sufficient way, providing your own food, medicine , water, clothing, protection, heat, etc- you are relying on the goods and services of others- ie the economy. You are relying on farmers to produce your food and get it to you. You are relying on utility workers to get water, fuel and electricity to you. You are relying on health providers to get medication, treatment and services to you. You are even relying on assembly line workers to make the parts you need to fix where you shelter or refrigerate your food or fix your vehicle or even produce soap and masks. You are asking these people to bring to you what you need. And to do that they need child care, transportation and the same goods you need. Again THE ECONOMY. This is not just capitalist income. It’s everything around you from the occupancy tax to pays for government services to farthest flung sewer in clothing factories in Pakistan.
Try living without the economy and the effort will kill you before the virus does.
FUCK the economy.
I am concerned with PEOPLE!!
This country worships money over lives…the purpose of governments is to do the big things that individuals cannot. With our fiat economy there is no reason the government can’t fire up the printing presses and provide citizens with a basic income during this crisis. Hell, the only JAWBs created in the last 25 years have been service economy jobs paying minimum wage. Other countries are doing this whole COVID thing wayyy slicker.
Of course crops need to be tended, trucks need to distribute goods etc etc but there are better mitigations available if only there was the political will.
That’s the problem.
inmnho
You can’t just “fire up the printing presses.” There is no debating you if you can’t figure that out. That would destroy our country faster than anything else. Especially coupled with the slow death of our economy. Are you trying to destroy America? Cause if so you should leave instead.
Huh?? THey just did! $4 trillion, didn’t you hear??
If they can bail out the corporations and the banks they sure as shit can bail out the citizens.
Don’t be daft. The US economy does not run like a household budget–at all.
K- done here. I wish everyone the best of luck~
one last thing
how other countries support their populations during Covid–Kyle Kulinski
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UswQqdjzuMU&feature=youtu.be
USA USA USA!!!
The price of gold and silver are going up because the value of the dollar is going down in large part because of $4 Trillion of fiat dumped into the market. I agree that the $4 trillion was poorly distributed as we all are on the hook for $8k each while only getting $1200.
I ft hey keep dumping dollars you won’t be able to trade them for toilet paper… like Mozambique’s $100 Trillion Dollar bill…
So Ullr, I was just traveling around South America before this whole covid thing happened. I saw first hand what happens when governments take over businesses through “bail outs” and print exorbitant amounts of money. I met these Artisans from Venezuela, leather workers, they made some really cool stuff. One had a ranch in Venezuela, he had his life savings in a cooler, we drank some beers and he showed me how he was making hats out of his life’s savings and selling them for Colombian pesos. One of the guys showed me how bad it was, a Colombian man was selling water for 600 Colombian pesos (it was 3000 pesos to the dollar when I was there), the Venezuelan gave him his entire cooler of cash for one bottle of water. The Colombian got very excited at first, then he saw the cooler was full of Venezuelan money. He then kicked the cooler over and took back his bottle of water.
Thats where printing money is going to get us. It sounds like you are around my age as well furies, you realize that our generation is the one thats going to get fucked by this right? Typical older generation doing what is best for them and then passing the buck to the younger. Its been happening for centuries, but one day, the buck won’t be able to be passed anymore. Its going to happen in our time.
Thanks for the link to that article. It does highlight one of the problems of this disease — our knowledge about it is rapidly evolving as we put more time and resources into looking at it. I am hopeful long-term, but it’s the short-term (3-9 months) that’s going to be painful no matter what path we take.
I think most of the folks in charge are well aware of the economic impact of stay-at-home policies. We all live in this economy so even those who are still working and/or getting paid are being strongly affected by the disruptions. The hope has always been that the draconian measures would be short-lived as would the pain before the economic recovery could begin. Unfortunately some were unwilling to admit there even was/is a problem and as a result we weren’t effective at controlling the spread and the restrictions stretch on. We can’t wish this away and we can’t pretend it doesn’t exist or that it isn’t serious like some of our political “leaders” seem to insist. We need to suck it up and figure out how to help those most impacted from an economic as well as health perspective.
This is an easily readable link to review what we know now about the COVID-19 and common myths/faqs:
https://health.ucdavis.edu/health-news/coronavirus/uc-davis-experts-detail-common-mistakes-about-covid-19/2020/07?fbclid=IwAR1dtqjImb2toLN88AzYo00v8q2VeQHaLrrCFAf9-hl195pwtz6KrJdFWFk
there is a reason why gold is above 2k and the majority of the world views anti-maskers as complete and utter idiots. I recommend everyone start preparing for what is coming and listen to professionals.
Highly paid , deeply invested, and completely void of empathy.
They are wealthy enough to insulate against their beliefs and actions.
There are two sets of rules in this country, one for the mega rich and powerful, and then the rest of us.
“To big to jail “, was a very powerful statement.
Speaks volumes to the mindset of the order followers.
yet so many people believe everything trump and the GOP say. me, i follow my own orders but i am an educated scientist that has spends much of time investigation history. we, which includes me and you, are dumb and have been proven to repeat history, therefore i attempt to alter that course by avoidance.
Yes, hard to be an independent minded human surrounded by so many who get their news 2nd,3rd hand, not to mention the lies of the elite.
Lots of researchers and scientists have taken part in despicable experiments , so I don’t value them as much as I do, let’s say, whistle blowers that are persecuted for exposing lies, corruption and helps to put the people on notice , they need to be held responsible for their actions.
Virus might be organic ,but the response has been used to the detriment of most healthy people.
What’s at stake here?
I’m beginning to understand why eugenics was so popular among the elites. So many people just don’t have the understanding , nor the perspective of the historical track record of tyrants and the power hungry few seeking to control the many.
“Taxation without representation”
‘Act like a slave, get treated like one.’