Letter to the Editor Concerned About ‘Ecocide’ At SoHum Business
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Dear Editor,
Hey Garberville, what’s going on over at Randall Sand & Gravels Bulk Soils yard? Don’t tell me you have not seen or have no idea why all the tree removing, clear cutting and grading that’s been taking place up their on top of the shale pit. This isn’t happening up in the hills where no one can see except on google earth. No, this ecocide is happening in Garberville, right across from the so called Community Park and a mile out of town. You can even see the clearing from 101.
How can a community and culture that values organically productive and environmentally superior practices, working for the protection of, for example, save the trees, save the salmon, save the water, say nothing when it comes to clear cutting a forested wildlife habitat down to the dirt, look the other way, and not question the manner in which it is being done? And I ask the same question of the SoHum local news media as well!
Please tell me this clear cutting and grading had permits, they consulted with a habitat biologist, conducted a study concerning what habitat they just distressed, destroyed or possibility killed! Tell me the County knows all about this project and it was exempt from the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA)! Can you tell me these things? No, because none of the above was done, no permits, no approval and no CEQA, with no clue what habitat was just demolished. Make sure you put all that on the tourism brochures for Southern Humboldt Cannabis Tours and quote the SoHum motto, “It’s easier to ask for forgiveness than permission”!
I have a suggestion for the SoHum “Terra” Cannabis Growers, maybe put a disclaimer on your product that states:
‘Cultivation or production of this Cannabis product did not harm, degrade or adversely effect Indigenous Wildlife Habitat or Endangered species’!
Ed VoiceFormer Southern Humboldt resident and home owner 1961-2015
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Because sometimes you clear trees and grade to do things with the land? As is done everywhere, for building everything?
It’s probably already permitted through an overall permit to clear, grade, and mine the entire area. Did you actually try checking?
“Did you actually try checking?”
Yes I did, there are no records at the Planning Department, Zoning Administrators or Planning Commission approving or permitting this project by Humboldt County. Its only in the Application Assistance Meeting phase of a cannabis project. You can look it up on “Accela”, search APN 222-241-006:
https://humboldtgov.org/183/Online-Permit-Management
I’m on the Voice’s side. There seems to be too much eager activity with equipment lately DESTROYING THE ENVIRONMENT. I would like to see some old timer with a D10 dozer push all these go getters into a BIG HOLE!
Shawn Studebaker is nark, calling in any other rock pits other than his own [edit]. Ask any local in town. He is the most unliked individual in the area. Sued bear Butte rock out. Until they were forced to sell to him.
Half of his rock comes from the so called community park. Just look at it on landglide, he should be paying the park millions of dollars for all the money he’s made off of rock that wasn’t even on his property
Bess check your facts before accusing someone of false accusations.sometimes it has a way of bitting peaple in the ass
‘Joe’, what ‘Studebaker should be in prison’ stated about Randall leasing a majority of the Community Park property for their gravel extraction, rock crushing, processing, stockpiles and cement batch plant operation is 100% accurate. In fact, Randall has an 86 acre lease with the Park Board for instream gravel extraction on Community Park property. In fact, Randall purchased the 20 acre parcel where their quarry and bulk soils operation is located now from the Community Park Board in 2007. I’m sure Randall would like to thank all the people who donated money to the Park Board to buy the Park, only to buy some for themselves.
Ed, it is true that Shawn has turned in over 200 of his neighbors just for owning property with a rock pit on it. He has been bragging all over town about it.
We have all received letters from the county accusing us of surface mining. I have never removed a single rock from my pit. Not one. But I still have to deal with the county or be charged a daily fine. I will NEVER buy anything from Randall sand and Gravel and I will personally protest Shawns GIANT so called legal indoor Grow at the old Eel River sawmill site. He has declared war!
Is that the huge ugly cement building with the containers inside?
So the fuck what? Community Park leased it. Community Park sold it. Not Randall’s fault, you got a problem take it with the Park, sure the Board was compensated for any transaction, otherwise wouldn’t have done it. STFU.
Dude he is, check yourself.
Why don’t you put your name next to your comment like a man instead of talking out your ass without any facts and the Bear Butte Cory is not owned by him
Owning a Cory is no longer acceptable.
Jesse I also got turned in by Shawn Studebacker along with about 200 other property owners that have small rock pits on their property. I am not putting my name out there but will call you. You are definitely in bed with a rat. Nothing but respect for you. But Shawn really blew it. Greedy bastard.
Ed, my dear man, you gotta let it go. Every time you post an editorial you end by saying, Former SoHum Resident. You left, let it go. ..
Umm….Ed….Kim … “Peckerwood” is Racist. Why does Kim allow these racist words here?
This is the second time I have seen a racist slur pass the black belt’s sniff test.
WTF Kim? Double standard much?
Pepperwood, from my dead cold hands!
I think the new flat looks great!!
Looks like the project is compatible with existing land use, being next to a quarry and all. Claiming that it has the same impact as a grow in a previously undeveloped area seems ludicrous. But run around in circles shrieking “CLEARCUTTING!!,” that’ll get people fired up.
Just stirring shit. If every person in SoHum wrote a letter to the Editor about someone they didn’t like who “wronged” them 15 years ago, and then made a bunch of baseless accusations while making shit up, it’s almost be as good as Facebook
Hey Ed,
How’s it going?
Going to bat for So Hum again?
Cool. More power to you. Hope it helps.
But your going after the low hanging fruit. Seems like you are making a mountain out of a molehill.
Randall’s operation doesn’t fit the definition of “Ecocide”. Not even close.
To suggest it does, undermine your position.
The term is much younger than you, Ed.
Coined by US Biologist Arthur Galston in 1970, after a serious change of heart.
He used the term to describe “…the massive damage and destruction of the Vietnamese Jungle…”, due to the use of Agent Orange. In the 50’s he was among scientists who helped prepare one of it’s chemical components.
Apparently he deeply regretted it.
Surely you don’t think Randall’s business falls into that category, do you?
I’m not seeing the correlation.
Cool old pictures, though.
You must remember that it was a County Rock Pit long before it was sold to Randall’s.
Maybe they got a three acre exemption or their permits come from the State.
It’s not the first time your comments suggested you have a bone to pick with Randall’s Sand and Gravel, etc.
I would never suggest that is not entirely within your rights.
I imagine what Randall’s are doing is also entirely within theirs.
I have nothing but respect for them.
My homes very foundation dependent upon them, and I have them to thank for it.
Much of my road came from that pit, it is of a fine quality, conveniently located and reasonably priced.
My septic field utilized their drain Rock as well, my septic tank was built with their con agg.
They have done much more good than harm as far as I am concerned.
Just think how much sediment they must have removed from the river over the years.
I’ve been thinking about it though, and if I was you, I’d probably be madder than a hot hornet, too.
The “Cool old pictures” were taken July 2nd & 6th 2020, here is a good older picture from 2010, notice how you cannot see the house with the blue roof like you can in the new pictures above. Wonder why that is. I have older pictures of the shale pit, when the County operated it. And after 2004, when the Park Board told the County to take a hike and leased it to Randall, they excavated it by 3 times what the County ever did. In fact, in the 1st and 2nd picture above, all that gravel processing at the bottom of the shale pit and to the right (where the old shooting range use to be) is all owned by the Community Park too, Randall only owns the face of the shale pit and above on top.
I’m not taking sides here, but I find it incumbent upon me to say that the north coast of California has more biomass (trees, brush, grass) than anytime in history. My family has resided on the South Fork of the Eel since 1857. The Indians, before white men showed up, routinely burned trees and brush that was close enough together to burn. They knew that it only improved the land and provided them with many products to sustain their lives and well being. The indians kept the land so clear that they could easily travel to the inlands in the winter and to the coast in the summer.
Many land managers have determined that they need to burn woodlands in mass to reduce the biomass and minimize fire danger.
Thanks for that history and education Ernie. However, this is 2020, environmental compliance, grading and tree clearing require permits by the County. And as of today, no permits have been approved by Humboldt County for this project. Its amazing to me, that they would clear many acres of indigenous forest, just to grow an non-indigenous plant. Kinda like the issues concerning deforestation in the amazon, just on a smaller scale. It all starts small and its 5 0’clock somewhere…
Ed, In my research on the word ecocide, this copper mine in Utah was mentioned.
Tell me if you think it compares to Randall’s operation…
I kinda don’t.
Randall’s operation will look like that copper mine if they keep at it. It’s sorta similar already, just not that big yet.
I bet that copper mine got that way a little bit at a time, so nobody said anything.
I sorta don’t think so, SWM.
They been digging at that for more than the 46 years I can remember it and it ain’t even a hole yet.
2.5 miles wide and 3900′ deep if they keep at it?
Not even remotely possible.
Ed,
That’s the Bingham Mine.
An ecocide candidate.
Yeah, and that is snow at the top, but, no, not so much at the bottom.
It’s 3900′ deep.
2.5 miles across or more.
High as King Peak if you start at Randall’s elevation I’d venture.
How about you?
Not as high?
Maybe higher?
Pretty close.
I always called it Kings Peak.
Metsker did, too, in ’50 and ’55.😉
Yeah, I kinda see your point. However, as far as Southern Humboldt is concerned, this picture from 2012 was taken when Randall first put in the concrete bins for the Bulk Soils operation. So yeah, for Southern Humboldt that copper mine dwarfs the Randall quarry or shale pit. But its all relative to the area in size, scope and degradation. Do you like deforestation better than ecocide?
I honestly wouldn’t call that forest, Ed.
Devegetation, would you believe?
That new clearing was mostly brush and a few hardwoods as I recall.
Any forest that may have ever been there is long gone.
I would call that defensible space at this point.
There is a certain amount of beauty to that, if you know what I mean.
Wow, by the looks of everything around where they cleared, sure looks more than “mostly brush and a few hardwoods”, IMHO…
You obviously havent seen what jesse does to properties, or was that prior to prison?
You got it Ernie
Now I see what the commotion is all about. It looks like maybe they bought another piece of property they are developing.
I’m all for progress. Maybe they are going to build a house or something.
Everyone’s home or business got carved out of nature at one point or another, even yours, Ed.
To begrudge that to the next guy is just, well, uncivil if you ask me.
My mistake on the pictures. I see now they aren’t just dated pictures of the soil yard development, they are new.
I’m thinking that could be a separate parcel than the quarry, maybe. That is just a guess.
Either way it’s none of my business, it’s theirs.
And it ain’t ecocide, not even close.
That’s my main point.
I did have to look that one up, though.
Not a word I was familiar with.
It was quite an exaggeration.
Usually you are not that far off base with your research.
Thanks for the lesson though.
And the cool new pictures.
Take care Ed,
Ed.
“Everyone’s home or business got carved out of nature at one point or another, even yours, Ed.”
You are 100% correct. However, they need permits, just like my house needed permits. And that is my point, they don’t have any permits, their not even waiting to get permits approved, they don’t have nothing, Zip, Zilch, Nada on paper the Planning Department can read. Which also means no environmental initial study was done. So if its no big deal, why did they bypass or circumvent the process? Was the plan just to wait and see if someone said something…
Come on, Ernie. It didn’t look like this when the native people were here. Burning undergrowth strengthens forests. Why, I bet they didn’t even have chainsaws.
Wow. Hmm when I asked the kid manning Randalls Bulk Yard 10 days ago what up next door he state he had No Idea what was going on with all the clearing. Was he just being coy?
Does Studebaker even have his fingers in at Randalls? Isn’t that LaVerne Randalls jurisdiction? They parted way long ago.
I too am curious what the plans are for this big clearing. I hope it’s something good for the communiyty and not just a big pot grow site or such. I want the locals to get more creative than that. That ship has sailed, IMHO.
Ed there were few trees there and mostly just brush, AND ZERO GRADING DONE. and the lizard’s have relocated to the park. Actually i hear GSD funded the project to momentarily distract you while the rate increase happens. Also the brush was made into toilet paper to be sold in the very store you shop in ED, which you will eagerly buy. The town you live in ED is experiencing a drought, so please stop drinking the water and save it for the fish. If you would like to re-assemble the so called stumps for the evidence i will provide the wood glue.
Dear Ed Voice, the large scar facing the river visible from 101 initiated as a large landslide sometime in the last 10 -15 years. I drove N-S on 101 many hundreds of times between 2005-2010…
Apparently they have been removing the center mass of the deposit as it is comprised of older river deposits and valuable to their business endeavors (the plant sits on top or tread of that river terrace).
Notice the spread out toe/deposit on the riverbank at its base. Vegetation has grown into it since its deposition, many years prior to your 2010 photo.
In contrast, Eureka Ready Mix has 3 plants on the Mad between Arcata and Korbel that harvest gravel from the active channel every dry season, as does Mercer Fraser in Fortuna. Those are all studied/budgeted sediment takes monitored by ‘the agencies’.
‘Todd’, I like that you call it a “scar”, because that’s what it is. As far as it being “initiated as a large landslide sometime in the last 10 -15 years”, that is not correct. That “scar” has been a quarry/shale pit since circa 1930, by the Tooby Family, then leased to Humboldt County Public Works in the 1950’s, then leased to Randall in 2004 by the Park Board and then purchased by Randall in 2007. I guess what you don’t know, that “scar” is just a small part of Randall Sand & Gravels instream surface mining and cement batch plant operation, just down stream, on the other side of the bridge and they are regulated by CHERT, USACE, SMARA and CDF&W, same as Eureka Ready Mix and Mercer Fraser, see picture below.
No, the mass of earth that used to comprise the slope collapsed as a landslide. Then they operated equipment on it. They didn’t just choose a spot and start digging….this is in regards to your original post/letter. Not the plant etc etc
Heres a crappy picture of the same year, 2010, before equipment was into it.
https://larrylivermore.com/2010/08/19/return-to-the-emerald-triangle/
Hi Todd, first off, the article is from 2010, however the photo is not. That photo was used by the realtor selling the property for the Tooby Family in 2000. I can also say that because there is no farming being cultivated on the flat closest to the river (Tooby never farmed crops) and Randall has not started their large stockpile at the south end/west side of the approach to the bridge yet, which started in 2001/2002.
See picture below, from circa 1914 of the Wood Ranch, way before it was the Tooby Ranch, Tooby Flat or now the Community Park. If you look carefully, you can see the bottom end of the shale pit from under and thru the trees. It was not caused by a landslide 10 or 15 years ago…
Gosh Ed,
I hate to burst your bubble again, but I can attest to the stockpiles at the West side of the South approach to the bridge being there at least a few years before 2001, 2002.
I personally hauled 55 truckloads of it across the bridge to the shale pit area for processing one day in ’97 or ’98.
We had 4 County trucks going that day, and one man running loader.
I don’t know how long those stockpiles had been there at that point, maybe years.
Not sure where you are getting your facts.
I guess, it comes from growing up there and our family house just on the North end of that bridge from 1966 to 2015. Do you remember when the county would install a summer bridge across the river, just upstream above the old Moody Bridge to truck gravel from the shale pit to Kimtu Road then up Sprowel Creek? We were some crazy SoHum kids back then, the things we did in our cars across that bridge and never ended up in the river is amazing, young, dumb and foolish…
Took this yesterday, they are making it longer. Taken from 101 with a better zoom lens.
I definitely like that old picture from 1914. You can actually see a little forest in that vicinity. Real trees.
Long gone.
The Tooby Barn, which I guess would have been the Wood Barn at the time according to your information is plain to see.
Pretty cool.
Actually went and put my eyes on that clearing up close today.
Not too many tree trunks on the ground, just a few.
Looks like a lot of stuff got chipped in a nice berm around the edge.
Pile of Earth that was pushed up long, long ago.
And the tip of a possible iceberg of pretty hard looking rock.
And a lot of dust.
Not a good place to pull out of, kind of a blind turn.
And surprisingly, even some wildlife, but I won’t say what kind.
They got less cover, but more edge, pretty obvious.
I’d say they are after that rock, but maybe they just need more elbow room.
Time will tell.
Maybe the permits they already obtained cover that area as well.
I just hope it’s good progress.
It’s a nice flat with a nice unobstuctable view. Exclusive easy access. County road frontage. Internet. Power close. Minutes to town. Well is probably doable, hopefully not sulphury. Overall, pretty hard to come by in So Hum. Be nice to have. Good for them.
Like I already said, it’s give and take.
Definitely not a landslide though. That could be way,way, worse.
Somehow I doubt they don’t have the necessary permits.
Not their style. I think they are probably pretty careful about that.
Maybe it belongs to someone else?
I guess we will never know how many mature trees were cleared, or how many bird nests were destroyed. The Community Park listed over 24 bird species on their property, which is from the bottom of the shale pit and across the river to the Park, they range in population across the Park and river, including; Great Egret, Great Blue Heron, Hawks, Falcons, Eagles, Marbled Murrelet, Osprey, and even the Northern Spotted Owl, just to name a few. So I guess we will never know, will we, since it was cleared before anyone could know otherwise?
And given he has the equipment to pull stumps, what else would you be using that excavator for, plus the bulldozer. Got to ask yourself why there is so much chipped wood since as you say, not many trees. However, go to google earth, check it out, allot of mature trees, that are not there anymore…
Its like if you had to investigate a multi car accident and all the cars involved had been towed away, all the people in the cars had died and taken away by ambulance before you arrived. Yeah, just like that!
I hope I’m not overstepping my bounds, but, I’m sorry for your loss. How horrible.
I remember you mentioning something like that.
Sounds like he was a great guy.
For that you were lucky.
Not every kid draws such a winning card.
Jealousy and Envy are two of the seven deadly sins.
I guess I am guilty of both, wishing I had had a Dad like yours must have been. But I will be spared the extreme grief you must have endured because mine was not like that.
I realize this is of no consolation.
Just trying to acknowledge your loss, a good father, in the sincere hope that it helps.
Take care, Ed.
Ed.
Thank you
Some of the trouble here might be cleared up if we actually looked at the complaints he filed. People are so being harassed by him if he did this to 200 SOHUM properties. All he had to do was to review Google Earth and geolocate each and every old cut scar. In that way he caused a lot of unnecessary grief for many, many people.
If one looks at old aerial photos done by USDA NRCS (SCS), I would make a bet that a great many of those scars were made during the 50’s and 60’s historical logging booms. One would cut a hillside down to provide a stable area for bringing your cut trees up to a yard for loading onto logging trucks. One would also do the same to build the forest roads to access the site.
If you were one of the persons R. turned in in order to corner a market all you need to do is get one of those old photos showing that the “pit”, the scar left from cutting and filling was done to create a landing pad or fill for the road installed for the historical forestry operations. A good engineer should be able to run the cut and fill volumes showing what was cut on the site was used on the site. And yes, some of those old pits and slope cuts were used again for land leveling in the 70’s for building home sites on the property. R. imho is a jerk, but a jerk that knows where his profits come from.
So what if they are doing something with their property. I want to live in a place where people can grade their land and cut down trees without needing a permit. Its great to see a little development happening. Every flat piece of ground outside of the valley bottoms was created by a piece of heavy equipment. This county wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for all the work that happened before these nazi fascist rules destroyed this place.
We can all agree with you Faro, Nazi facist is completely correct and so is the heavy equipment.
The problemlies when the Nazi facists you mention impose their will on moms and pops because God forbid they cut down a single tree for more sunlight in their patch while yet randos get to clear two acres out without having to as for permission let alone pay for this so called permission via county permits. Looks like the “Friends of the Eel River” aren’t really friends either or have they gone blind or are simply looking away?
That pit looks invasive as hell and as mentioned will grow little by little just like that copper mine in Utah.
As for digging around in the river extracting gravel I’d like to hear from the fish police and explain to the rest of us how exactly the salmon benefit from it.
Wake up planning and building department! Anyone home?
And they worry about runoff from grow bags. I always wondered how Randals was allowed to operate on the river like that.
[edit] here he is writing letters to disturb the peaceful waters after he left. His assault in Reggae On the River and the Matteel was bad enough… now this blog keeps giving him airtime to continue the harassment of our contributing community members. Of course this quarry is already permitted. Ed spends his time creating problems for people rather than enjoying his time on this planet. Everyone who is so worried about the Eel River needs to take a look at the 1964 Eel River flood footage on youtube. There is nothing we can do to the river that can beat the damage the river does to itself during these flood events, if Ed truly cares he would do more than just harass people he doesnt like. [edit]
I take it you have no idea what or who you are talking about, are you new to the area? Just to set the record straight, my family and I have been opposing Randall Sand & Gravel since they set up shop on the river bar below our house and property in the early 1980’s, 18 years after we bought our new house and might add, they did not have permits then either. As far as the 1964 flood is concerned, I don’t have to watch it on youtube, we lived thru it and watched it everyday live over that Christmas and New Years, just like in 1974, 1986, throughout the 90’s and 2000’s and for us it was on the South Fork Eel River. You can try all you want to change historical facts and what you believe is true.
For example, in the photo below, taken in 1980, documenting the old Moody Bridge before it was replaced, you can see the size of the shale pit to the right of the bridge. Please not the tree line on top and sides and how much smaller the face of the shale pit is compared to today, and that was only 20 years ago. However, when we are long gone, the river will have the last laugh…
https://www.loc.gov/resource/hhh.ca0180.photos/?sp=20
Ed, Ed, Ed,
1980 was not “only 20 years ago.”
Maybe I have no idea what I’m talking about, but,
1980 was only 20 years ago, only 20 years ago.
For a total of “only” 40 years.
Time flies.
Hindsight is 20/20.
It’s 2020. Don’t look back.
Have a good day.
Oh my god, thanks for correcting me, I was totally wrong, my bad. What I was thinking about and did not convey very well, was that Randall has been working that quarry/shale pit for 20 years and look how much larger it has become in size and scope, and with the Community Park Boards blessing. Look how many trees they have cleared since taking it over…
I am grateful Ed puts in the time and does the research many of us aren’t able to do.
Thank you Ed for being who you are.
Ed why don’t you post a picture of the letter that you wrote to the community park And Randals Sand And Graval trying to extort money out of them with an attached dollar amount claiming that somehow there uses devalued a residence that you briefly owned nearby it’s going to be interesting to see what your obituary has to say about you I’m young enough that I’ll be around to read it how about you mind your own fucking business and quit stirring up shit in a county that you don’t even reside in get a fucking life i’d be embarrassed to be related to you you’re the laughingstock of the community all you do is make claims with no follow through you half ass attempt to sue people but won’t put your money where your mouth is
Why don’t you post it, so we can all see and read what you are talking about. For someone who claims I don’t “put your money where your mouth is”, it seems you don’t either, do as I say not as I do! As far as your young age, being around to read my “obituary”, careful what you wish for! All the rest is just misdirection, white noise and deflection. Is that all you got, try again!
I think you post name is ironic, because most people who try and save polar bears don’t reside or live anywhere near them. So should they all get a F’n life too?
Scandalous, enquiring minds want to know!
Ed voice
the great nuisance of Southern Humboldt
Only time will tell whom is more of a “nuisance”, I’m only the of a fly in the ointment, monkey wrench in the gears, thorn in the side of the “nuisance”, its all in the eye of the beholder.
And by the way, how come you never posted that extortion letter you accused me of writing to the Community Park & Randall’s. I would love to read it. Please put your money where your mouth is concerned…
Anyone who can tolerate hearing chainsaws and trees fall for weeks in the name of human resource acquisition is out of touch with the reasons we are here. Humans need to step out of their little egos and listen to the entire world and see it all with the same love we give ourselves. Why should a single tree fall in the name of human expansion?
This project is not sustainable forestry.
This project is egregious for the environment and may cause erosion upriver of most of our local water companies. Ed is right.
Y’all who call protecting the environment “fascist” forget, we need as much biomass and integral ecology as possible to face the global warming yet to come.
Y’all who care about one another and yourselves, would benefit from extending that caring to the entire world. Just because you don’t think you can make money on the existence of woods as they are, does not deny trees, birds, lizards, squirrels, and our other fellow earthly beings their inherent worth.
Ed,
Exactly what are you aiming to achieve with your letters to the editor? Do you expect other people to take up your cause? Has anyone so far? Are you just seeking attention? You certainly get it.
Randall Sand & Gravel and the Garberville Community Park are not going away. If you have a legitimate complaint(s) it/they should be directed to the appropriate agencies. Using this venue as a platform to stir the pot serves no one but you.
I understand you feel that your home territory has been violated. You are devoting so much time, energy and anger to these issues. It’s really a shame you haven’t been able to move on. Think of all the time you could have spent enjoying your family and the outdoors instead of doing this. You can’t ever get that back.
Its funny you seem to know everything about me, but I know nothing about you. I was always told if I see something wrong, say something, so I have and I have that right, same as you do here. If I am so wrong, why not make your argument concerning the facts, instead using fallacies that have nothing to do with my statement only an attack on me. BTW, I see my children and grandchildren every week, sometimes sooner and work outside 6 out of 7 days a week because of my business, most time on a body of water. I work with my hands, training and consistent education, and see the fruits of my labor after most every job is complete. I have had an awesome life and would not trade it for anything. What you are commenting on here is less than 0.001% of what I do in my life. Now, please tell me something I don’t know…