Viral Photo of North Coast Man Wearing White Power Shirt Tests Our Civil Discourse

Screenshot of a comment on the post that went viral.

Screenshot of a comment on the post that went viral. It was liked or loved 30 times.

A Humboldt County business owner’s photograph went viral this weekend after a potential employer photographed him arriving with an estimate for a roofing job while wearing a shirt with a white supremacist slogan. The original post has been shared over one thousand times on Facebook including on the pages “Humboldt County on Alert*, “Black Lives Matter Austin”, and “United for Bernie Sanders.” The viral post has resulted in the doxing of the man and has garnered reactions ranging from civil to hostile.

Nick Williams, the man in the photograph, revealed that since the image was posted on Facebook, he has received “dozens of death threats” from places as far as Virginia. He described leaving his kids at another person’s home out of fear of their safety. He also expressed concern about a loss of his business’s revenue and worried about his ability to “pay his mortgage”.

Tom Tellez, the photographer, and author of the original Facebook post said the intent of the post was “not to attack [Williams].” Tellez said he did not “regret posting it” because he hopes it will go towards “making a better world.” He explained that “symbols have been around since the beginning of time and they matter. [Williams] should expect a reaction if he wears something like that.”

Tellez admitted, “Part of me sympathizes with him.” He explained, “I don’t think he deserves threats.” Tellez said he was concerned with the tactics taken by some of the critics. He said, “I don’t like people making fun of his face and I don’t like watching people post pictures of nooses.”

After the photograph went viral, a letter to the editor was sent to North Coast news outlets written by “a group of folks from different organizations in Humboldt County who are working toward creating a welcoming community.” One of the signatories of the letter was Heidi Moore-Guynup, the Superintendent of McKinleyville Union School District, who spoke towards the intent of the letter to the editor and the community’s reaction to the post.

Moore-Guynup said the letter deliberately kept the man in the photograph vague because “we don’t want to lose focus of the bigger issue” which is “to bring light to the pervasive nature of systemic racism on a local and national level.” Assessing the community’s reaction to the viral post, she explained, “The focus appears to be on this one gentleman. For me, there’s a much bigger picture that demonstrates the need for comprehensive education.”

Moore-Guynup was also troubled by ad-hominem attacks on the man focusing on his looks calling them “distasteful” and was troubled to hear about the threats he and his family have faced. “I’m sure he’s feeling vulnerable, financially compromised, and is acting to protect his children,” she said.

Circumstances like these challenge us to our core: racism must be stopped and civility must be sought. Tellez mused that the man he photographed “is a small pawn in a bigger picture. Our society needs to learn to respect again.”

Moore-Guynup encouraged all to “keep the dialogue on the important issues here and refrain from engaging in mean behavior. Let’s model how to have civil, public discourse in an intellectual manner.”

Below are some of the resources shared by authors of the letter to the editor to provide our readers with information on the nature, reality, and extent of systemic racism:

*Note: Humboldt County on Alert Administrators removed posts about the incident several times.

NOTE: We apologize for using the incorrect name in an earlier version of this post.

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Me
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Me
3 years ago

The weird thing is without social media nobody would care. He would’ve been seen by a few people in person that day and those people would have thought
“ wow, lame shirt “ and maybe told a few of their friends . Nowadays the pitchfork cancel culture needs to come out to demonstrate how much more morally correct they are than everyone else and try to ruin this guys life over a stupid T-shirt .

Tyson
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Tyson
3 years ago
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AND a swastika tattoo on his forearm, bro. 🤦🏼‍♂️ A swastika is essentially a public symbol that “inferior races should die”. How do you preach civility or tolerance against that type of hostility?
“Im looking through the history books to see where niceness and manners defeated the nazis, what page is that on again??”

Anon
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Anon
3 years ago
Reply to  Tyson

Is there evidence the tattoo featured on his FB page is HIS? Or is it simply a picture of a tattoo. You don’t know. And neither do I.

Eric Kirk
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Eric Kirk
3 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Why would he post it in any case?

Anon
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Anon
3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Kirk

Why do people post any of their questionable crap ? I get that there’s a lot tied up in that image, but he’s likely just a poser, insecure, probably not very educated, wanna-be who’s trying to belong and look tough.

I will agree tho; terrible outfit to wear for a potential job bid.

Jim
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Jim
3 years ago
Reply to  Anon

So much for white “supremacy”

Hank
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Hank
3 years ago
Reply to  Jim

Lol

Lynn H
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Lynn H
3 years ago
Reply to  Jim

best comment

Anthony T Brooks
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Anthony T Brooks
3 years ago
Reply to  Jim

You wear a black power shirt, its all good. Black lives matter, its all good. Wear Anything that is even close to white lives matter or whatever’… your a racist. Screw that man… cancel culture and all this sh#t is a waste of time man. Social media is the antichrist. People worry about shit instead of leading a good life, of courae opinions are like bungholes too. What a drag man, this country will never be the same. I believe in everybody gettin the same chance as all… but ypu also haveta work it people, NOT given to you. Deport the democrats!

Black Rifles Matter
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Black Rifles Matter
3 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Tyson says there is, sooo IT MUST BE SO

Monica Topping
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Monica Topping
3 years ago
Reply to  Anon

The tattoo is most definitely on his body. There are screenshots of his whole body, swastika tat visible on his right arm, from before he closed down his FB to the public.

No One Cares
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No One Cares
3 years ago
Reply to  Anon

We do know it’s him because he posted other photos of it, clearly showing his face. And he has to hold his arm up to flash it in the photos. Stop making excuses FFS

The misadventures of bunjee
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The misadventures of bunjee
3 years ago
Reply to  No One Cares

There is a subset of people that no matter what, will claim The Truth is….somewhere else. And complain. You could tell them the sun rises everyday and they’ll argue how one can say that with 100% certainty. And then complain it’s too bright.

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago
Reply to  Tyson

Tyson,

Ghandi and MLK Jr accomplished impressive things while staying on the high road (at least in their public lives). I will grant they were not fighting Nazis, but they were up against much greater powers than this guy.

No Joke
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No Joke
3 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Neither of them defeated the nazis and MLK was murdered by a man with the same beliefs as Nick Williams.

White supremacists kill people. There are numerous examples over the past several decades. They’re also often involved in organized crime to fund their “movement” – dealing meth, dogfighting, burglary, car theft, and more.

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago
Reply to  No Joke

The guy is despicable. Zero argument from me on that. Zero.

I also find death threats toward children despicable. Does that point require debate?

Wanano
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Wanano
3 years ago
Reply to  No Joke

NAACP..NO ALL A#######ARE COLORED PEOPLE…..spoken by a much loved and non racist Black man. Why cant we all just get along. Life isnt easy for any of us. We all have 10 fingers and toes one nose and one heart. If we could fill the world with love starting with one person what a wonderful place it would be.

P*** W***lies
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P*** W***lies
3 years ago
Reply to  Wanano

Great comment.

Clint
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Clint
3 years ago
Reply to  No Joke

Really? Dont u watch the news? There r shootings everyday in a city close to me.all i see is black people shooting black people. Every morning. Get real. And my city is only 100,000. U dont have a clue.

T
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T
3 years ago
Reply to  Tyson

Do we need to educate all the nazi apoligists by posting photos of the holocaust? Seriously, if these people aren’t castigated for the violence they have TATOOED IN THEIR SKIN, who does???? Our veterans deserve to be remebered for the horrors of fighting these monsters. “Vilonce” gave you your white privelage. [edit]

C
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C
3 years ago
Reply to  T

Every privilege has been won by violence.we won our privilege to govern our selves as a nation and slaves won their freedom by violence.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
3 years ago
Reply to  Tyson

I feel bad for his family. What a loser, he didn’t realize how wearing this to give a bid on a project was bad for business?!? At least he let’s his ideology show. Now everyone knows what an idiot he is and only racist scum will hire him. What a piece of work. I feel bad for his family.

Elvis Costanza
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Elvis Costanza
3 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

You can have your business or you can have your politics, but mixing the two is just idiotic. Wearing that shirt is intended to provoke a reaction and get attention. I’d say ‘mission accompished’.

Jacqueline richards
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Jacqueline richards
3 years ago
Reply to  Tyson

Oh my fucking God it’s a SHIRT how bout everybody just blow this shit out of proportion because you’re fucking sensitive and insecure about your own god dam heritage I’m ashamed about the history of America so is everybody else that’s why it don’t exist anymore and that’s why we have BILLIONAIRE black men who did not sell drugs to acquire it but you mother fuckers want to ruin lives over a SHIRT.. GET FUCKING REAL pull the bottle out of your mouth CRY BABY and get off your high horse and enjoy all the freedom that your WHITE ancestors fought and died to secure

Dougie Dressner
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3 years ago

He got what he deserved. Too bad about his family, but maybe he will think twice next time. You don’t tolerate these types. [edit]

Truth Seeker
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Truth Seeker
3 years ago
Reply to  Tyson

FYI,
Not many people realize this, but the swatiska is a hindu symbol and was around well before the Nazi’s. In Sanskrit, the word swastika is a combination of ‘su’ (meaning ‘good’) and ‘asti’ (meaning ‘to exist’). It literally means “all is good”. Its unfortunate the Nazi’s used a great symbol to represent the horror they ultimately brought.
Please be informed.
https://www.hinduamerican.org/blog/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-swastika/

Gail
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Gail
3 years ago
Reply to  Me

Well said !!

Dan
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Dan
3 years ago
Reply to  Me

Obviously, it isn’t just about the shirt, or his tattoo. This is about systemic racism in our county, our country, and the world. It is my understanding that the person in the shirt admitted being a white supremacist and refused to apologize. This was his opportunity to distance himself from his shirt, Nazis, and what they represent, but refused to do so.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Me

Not true, it’s likely social media and extremist internet sites that influence and radicalized many ignoramuses like him.

It’s why I’m support banning policies by platforms like youtube, FB and more.

I have no sympathy for Alex Jones, Louis Farrakhan or the ilk of their hate breedings.

No Joke
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No Joke
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

It’s funny, almost no one in the city of Chicago takes Farrakhan seriously. His own neighbors look at him as the crazy old uncle who keeps showing up uninvited even though everyone ignores him. The only people who pay him any attention are outside the state of Illinois, and certain parts of the media. I wish the same could be said for Alex Jones.

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Isn’t censorship extremist?

Don’t be afraid of stupid ideas. Shine a light on them and let the stupidity speak for itself.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Except right wing extremism is on the rise.

Ignoring problems doesn’t solve them.

Who Cares
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Who Cares
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Short sighted. What happens if the neo conservatives really come to power and ban Amy Goodman. Free speech is very important. The speech you ban may one day be your own.

The misadventures of bunjee
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The misadventures of bunjee
3 years ago
Reply to  Me

Dude. Social media is not limited to FB or IG. How do you think propaganda and anything else meant to get attention got around before it? People talked. Made phone calls. BS’d at social gatherings of every sort. Internet media just makes it travel faster. I can guarantee you his biz would still have been ruined.

lou
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lou
3 years ago
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did you hear floyds been drug free for a month

Tom
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Tom
3 years ago
Reply to  Me

Evil sociopathic people come in every race..but like black people I am proud of my heritage as well.. That doesn’t mean I feel superior too anybody I know that I’m not. But if it’s acceptable for one race to wear a shirt promoting their race it should be equally acceptable for all other races of people..

onlooker
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onlooker
3 years ago

With all due respect, it sounds like this guy got a taste of his own medicine. His clothing is intended to elicit reactions of fear in already oppressed people, and to empower reactions of hate in others. Perhaps the only way that he will learn the lessons that Moore -Guynup extols is to experience the fear himself. As for Moore-Guynup, her overall message is a nice one coming from a viewpoint of privilege. It would be nice to have a better world, but not if we have to be rude to white supremacists to get there. Um, no. Draw the line and don’t let racists cross it.

Anne
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Anne
3 years ago
Reply to  onlooker

YES ^^ well said!

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
3 years ago
Reply to  onlooker

Yes, I agree, the guy received an education.

If he’s seriously looking for honest work, that shirt just cost him money.

At the same time, the racist club just about shot it’s own wad. Some smarter folks ought to become the newest leaders. Nobody cures racism by initiating hate.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  onlooker

Is threatening to kill someone rude? Or something beyond that? To me, it is possible to hold someone accountable–not hire them, speak out about their choices calmly without threatening them without resorting to death threats. And it is possible to look at what happened to Kevin as a cautionary tale about self-righteousness in whatever part of the political spectrum you fall on.

Flat girl
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Flat girl
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

His SHIRT is a DEATH THREAT.
The response is legitimate.

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
3 years ago
Reply to  Flat girl

NO.

Your mentality is the death threat. His shirt didn’t ignite this discussion.

Alf
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Alf
3 years ago
Reply to  Rod Gass

More like her lack of mentality.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

Ya okay brainiac?

Yellowrose
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Yellowrose
3 years ago
Reply to  Flat girl

His shirt a death threat don’t think so what about the black people that wear the black power with their first step in the air what about that I say that’s a little intimidating myself it’s OK that every other race goes away around wearing something but not the white race if that white race does it they’re done for that’s not right now the paper they put this out you have destroyed This man’s livelihood and maybe caused harm to him and his family I hope you all think it’s worth it

hmm
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hmm
3 years ago
Reply to  Yellowrose

I’m not aware of symbols for black supremacy. Black power does not have the same meaning as white power because “white power” comes from white supremacist ideology, whereas “black power” comes from an ideology promoting equality, rather than superiority.

That being said no forms of racial or national pride make sense to me. Well, I suppose if you worked hard to earn your nationality that might be a case for pride.

Carol
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Carol
3 years ago
Reply to  hmm

Wearing a black power shirt would be exactly the same as a white power shirt. Both in my opinion are wrong. We are all the same and should be treated as equals. This hate has to stop.

No supremacy only humans
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No supremacy only humans
3 years ago
Reply to  hmm

I’m a world where it’s ok to be proud of anything but being white you have black power groups and Macha and many others . This dude is ignorant for being a white supremacy nut , though maybe it needs to be addressed that any pro white group is seen as racist. You can say white power without someone thinking you also mean death to blacks . How ignorant . There needs to be social pride groups for every race and culture . None should be ostracized. None should preach hate of the others . But in this backward society you have all groups agreeing it’s ok to hate whites and call them names or the devil . That’s ok , no one loses their job or goes viral . There is no difference between all the hate on this page above this comment and the hate your comments are about . You have justified yours just like he did .

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago

You really can say Irish power, Germans are beautiful, I love America, Pride in being from Pocono. But, if you are at all interested in not making people of sense think you are likely a racist, wearing a white power shirt with a swastika tattoo might be a thing to avoid.

You know my son once went through a period where he thought that the Hindu symbol for divinity needed to be redeemed from its position as the Nazi swastika. It really didn’t go well. The symbol, fairly or unfairly, has become shorthand for “I believe that people of color are less than me.” White power has the same shorthand. You can use it. It’s a free country. But most people will see that and think, “Hey, he doesn’t give a rat’s ass if he hurts people of color’s feelings so…probably he’s a racist.” And they won’t want to hang out with you, or buy product from you.

You’ve got lots of option for pride as a white man from here even if you don’t know your ancestry (since we know each other, I’d be glad to help find your specific ancestry). Humboldt, 707, Proud to be an American, Cali King, 49’er fan, whatever but because a bunch of Nazi’s have co-opted the White Power name for their brand then unless you want to be thought of as a fan, I’d avoid it.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
3 years ago

Good point about any form of white black latino power. It’s all very divisive. But this douchebag supports nazis…. Fucking nazis. If you support nazis you’re not even human. Cowards don’t feel safe without their wannabe gang affiliation. Are your nazi buddies going to protect you?

C
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C
3 years ago

Right on!!!!

Pissed off Marine
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Pissed off Marine
3 years ago
Reply to  hmm

Sure it don’t after 8 years of barrack. He can wear whatever he wants ! Just like antifa, black lives matter, and anyone else. Don’t be ok for one and not the other. That would be hypocritical!

C
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C
3 years ago
Reply to  hmm

Thats a problem w/people nowdays. They have no pride in themselves or their nationality. Peopl3 just try to follow anything or idea blindly yet knows nothing. All they want or crave is drama. Worry more about u and yours and less about total strangers.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  Flat girl

Really? A general statement on a shirt like say “fuck you” is exactly the same as calling someone at their own residence and yelling “fuck you” into the phone?

No Joke
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No Joke
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym, the words and symbols on his shirt and body are frequently used to threaten and vandalize synagogues, black churches, and people’s homes.

So yes, they are just as threatening as a phone call.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  No Joke

Not legally they are not. And, in my opinion, not morally.

It is really possible to see degrees and nuances. It is possible to look at this man’s shirt and say, “I will never hire him.” It is also possible to turn to the person threatening to kill him and say, “You have gone too far. You have become what you profess to hate.”

Leland Salomon
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Leland Salomon
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Thank you Kym ! This is something I didn’t have the eloquence to say in so few words .

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  Leland Salomon

My emotions are running high on this one. It’s hard to have a lot of hostility directed at me and still be calm and reasoned. So, I really appreciate you taking the time to say a kind word, Leland. It helps me refocus and try to state things calmly.

maxwell
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maxwell
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

i respect and appreciate the work that you do, but you’re veering too far into nazi sympathizing. he’s a nazi. maybe my emotions are running high because nazis have tried to literally murder friends of mine, and have been responsible for hundreds of deaths in the past three years alone, but we fought a war about this once, and it didn’t stop at just boycotting.

i mean, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. he advocates genocide by wearing a short sleeved shirt. that’s an act of violence. he gets what he gets, and he doesn’t get to whine about it.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  maxwell

My dad didn’t like black men in general. He liked individuals just fine but as a group he despised them because one time when he wasn’t even 18 someone asked for John Doe and he, from Eureka in the 40’s, innocently said “the American one” to differentiate between the black John Doe and the white John Doe. And he got badly beaten up by a group of black men.

Now, you could understand why he might be angry. Or you could understand why men who were as American as he might be pissed after a life of bigotry. Or you could understand that someone has got to be the one to stop hate.

maxwell
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maxwell
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

with all due respect, there’s no comparison. this man is a neo-nazi. he’s not just some guy that has racist beliefs, but somebody that read what hitler had to say and was down with it. go read a bunch of wikipedia articles about the holocaust right quick, and tell me if you are comfortable using your father as a point of comparison to somebody that wants to do another holocaust.

are you comfortable comparing your father to the neo-nazi that mowed down heather heyer in charlottesville in 2017, nearly killing friends of mine in the process? what about the white supremacists behind the other 300+ deaths since trump took office?

i’m sorry, but there’s no comparison to literal nazis, except maybe violent fascist groups from other countries that seek to implement genocides within their own borders.

the act of displaying a swastika is an explicit threat of violence. it’s an explicit act of incitement to violence. when you treat it like that’s not the case, even when you do it from a place of decency and compassion and fairness as you are right here, you are putting the community at further risk. please, i implore you, don’t promote nazi sympathy with your platform. i appeal to your decency and compassion, as well as your sense of justice. please don’t forget popper’s paradox of tolerance and undermine your own goals to the detriment of those of us you work so hard for.

i appreciate your time and consideration, and i hope that your today is better than your yesterday.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  maxwell

I’m relatively familiar with the holocaust, Maxwell, she said dryly.

I’m not saying that that wearing a white power t-shirt and especially getting a swastika is a “little” racism. I totally agree with not choosing to buy from the man. But threatening to kill him over protected speech (and yes his tattoos and his shirt are protected) is way far off the behavior I want to emulate that I saw in the heroes that I discovered when I was a teenager–Gandhi and Martin Luther King, Jr.

maxwell
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maxwell
3 years ago
Reply to  maxwell

but kym, when the law protects literal white supremacists, is it then the responsibility of people that are targets (not you, incidentally) to be chill about it because hey, those explicit threats of violence are technically protected speech?

i’m sorry, but no. if the state won’t protect the community from neo-nazis, then the community must protect itself from neo-nazis. part of that involves making it very very clear that there’s zero tolerance for that mess, that anybody promoting such an extreme agenda as that might get themselves suckerpunched by a stranger or getting their tires slashed or whatever else happens.

it’s foolish to call people with death threats, but neo-nazis must be deplatformed every time by any means necessary. but let’s consult the resident expert on nazi ideology, adolf hitler himself:

“Only one danger could have jeopardised this development — if our adversaries had understood its principle, established a clear understanding of our ideas, and not offered any resistance. Or, alternatively, if they had from the first day annihilated with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement.”

you can emulate your heroes by not engaging in violence, but the way that you wrote this is dangerously sympathetic for a literal neo-nazi. he’s not some innocent victim, he’s a threat to the community. you can oppose death threats and personally engaging in acts of violence without nazi sympathy.

b.
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b.
3 years ago
Reply to  maxwell

Maxwell,
Would you apply that same logic to those who express male supremacy? Should wearing a symbol or speaking a word like “bitch” that has been uttered many times while women were beaten or murdered be justification for revenge murder or threats on someone’s life?
I’ve used that word and worse. You gonna threaten my children’s lives or justify someone else doing it? We’d see a lot of dead men in the coming weeks if this sort of vigilante revenge were to become the norm. Symbols or and acts of male supremacy are everywhere.
Agressive violence couched as self defense is a release valve for those who want change who do not have the patience to live and work for, nor the courage to die for, the changes they seek.

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Right on Kym! I agree.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
3 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Sounds like your dad was already prejudice if he called the white john doe American, and was what,insinuating the black john doe wasn’t American? I’m not trying to insult your dad just saying you’re explanation of why he’s bigoted shows that he already was. I grew up here and can say most older long time locals, including family members of mine are a bit bigoted against blacks and native Americans.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
3 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

My wife is 60% native American and my children are at least 30%. When I see these racist fucks I feel like they’re a danger to my family. Nobody likes people around who hate them for no logical reason. If you support nazi ideology you should not be free in America. Nazis are one of our sworn enemies.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

When one hasn’t been exposed to different races (Eureka 1940’s) then you don’t have much cultural context. So a)yes, that’s racism. but b) it’s mild form of racism that just takes someone saying kindly, “Hey, man, we’re American’s, too!” and then, there’s some embarrassment and some learning and usually some growing. My dad was the kind of person that thought the Native Americans and the Palestinians (long before it was PC) got a raw deal. Probably if someone had been kind instead of cruel then he’d have learned instead of becoming more racist. I don’t know that of course. But he’s my dad so I believe it.

Heck, I still remember heading off to Berkeley and during student orientation making friends with two beautiful black women. And I assumed they were probably from working class families like mine or even poorer families. To my surprise, I learned that they were daughters of a doctor and a lawyer and neither were there on a scholarship. Most of the black people I had seen or read about had been poor. If I had been asked, I suppose I would have guessed that there were wealthy black people but I didn’t grok it. That’s a form of mild racism. But if they had beat me up for making assumptions, maybe I would have learned hate instead of being properly embarrassed and growing from that experience.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I totally agree. Growing up around here made me have preconceived notions about other races. I admit that even now I have some mild racism engrained in me that it’s hard to shake without exposure to other cultures. The difference is that most people with mild racist ideas don’t hate other people for their skincolor. Nazis hate. It’s what they are. They wanna dominate and subjugate other people for no logical reason. They are by their nature a threat. America never made peace with the Nazis. We should still be at war with their ideology. Anybody who wants to be a Nazi should be in a pow camp.

Gma
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Gma
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I grew up this king all blacks were rich. The families at my school had dads that were doctors and lawyers. My family was lower middle, closer poor. It was a real shock to move to the south and discover poor black families.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  Gma

Another form of stereotyping but in reverse! And a delightful one.

Lynn H
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Lynn H
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym, that shirt is not mild racism or even just ignorance. Ignorance can be corrected. Hate is a danger to society.

POC see these expressions as very real threats to their lives and their families lives. Now- today, and right here in Humboldt county and throughout California.

Is the guy a maybe a little unbalanced or not terribly bright? Maybe. But that doesn’t make it O.K. and it certainly doesn’t make it safer.

I realize you do not support white supremacy. I realize you recognize ignorance can sometimes be changed. This is the line where it can become seriously dangerous.

It’s not just ignorance. Sometimes people like this can be changed by understanding or reasoning. I’ve gone there and been successful with 2 people. Very unbalanced people. But not only are they usually not changed, it is also seriously dangerous to try. Even for White people. If a group thinks an individual is leaving the group because of one outside person, that outside person can be in physical danger.

Some threats of violence are best met in kind.

10 toes
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10 toes
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

People easily confuse a “racist “ when one is simply a “separatist “
There’s a big difference to you who are easily offended . They do have a movie out Called white chicks with black dudes painting their faces as white women . But if two white dudes made that same move it would be racist ….
remember “racists “ and “separatist “
Two different things .

Lynn H
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Lynn H
3 years ago
Reply to  Flat girl

“His SHIRT is a DEATH THREAT.
The response is legitimate.”

YES. People don’t understand this. People don’t want to see this. People don’t want to admit this goes on in their area.

These are the people who sneak around with guns in the backs of POC’s yards TODAY. Not yesterday. Not in some other place.

I will be the first to stick up for rural whites who might not have experience or know any better. But this guy is reaping the direct consequences of his own actions. I have no empathy.

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym Kemp,

Yes, of course, death threats are wrong anyway it’s intended.

The racist clubs across America know how to grab some journalistic exposure. They sound musicly as though they’re fresh to this world and listen with brand new fresh ears. Their shortcoming is … their crap is old and tired.

RHBBsympathizeswithNazis
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RHBBsympathizeswithNazis
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

It is extremely concerning that this paper’s primary focus with this issue is on the feelings of a Nazi. This is called being a Nazi sympathizer. When you are doing this from a position of power as a news agency, it is even more dangerous and honestly, repulsive. How convenient of you to not include that the guy also has a swastika tattoo on his arm, that he is married to a white woman who is a local hospital social worker, that people have seen for years that they have a swastika flag up in their house which can be seen from the street, that he is reportedly a youth football coach, or that he is connected with at least one other local on social media who has a swastika tattoo. What do you think these folks’ behaviors in the community have been and how much harm have they caused? Way to focus on protecting white people’s feelings and lives over the protection of people of color. This article is intended to garner sympathy for a white supremacist and is being used to attempt to silence those who speak out about racism in this community…because alerting the community to white supremacists is “harmful” and “mean” to white supremacists.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago

Sigh, I knew someone would try and strip my liberal stripes from me because I want to point out that yes, boycotting a business is an acceptable way of expressing disapproval but threatening hanging isn’t. And, look, you did it so bravely. I can really imagine you as a brave Martin Luther King, jr. who would have calmly stepped up to the roofer and told him why they wouldn’t have hired him seeing how quick you are to hide your name on the internet when talking to an old lady. Your courage and your clear moral compass slays me. I retire in embarrassment.

Nope
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Nope
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

You are not a victim here, Kym. Do better. And keep MLK’s name out of your mouth.

C
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C
3 years ago
Reply to  Nope

Nor r u ! Keep your own mouth from spewing words.who r u!

Some old guy
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Some old guy
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kim,
An “old” lady with the bite of a shark.Great response.
Made me smile and type this.

C Armstrong
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C Armstrong
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

🙂

hmm
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hmm
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Guess you have to be in favors of lynching now in order to be a real liberal. The irony is painful. A logical result of the anti-science, anti-white trend on the left though.

C Armstrong
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C Armstrong
3 years ago
Reply to  hmm

What the? Is the standard right wing response now “No YOU are!” to everything? Yes, the famous ‘anti-science’ left! Go outside bud. Have a walk. Good Lord.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

This article is a benefit to our community…. why?

Freedom of the press.
Lack of censorship.
Freedom to express their views.
People can evaluate the opinions of the people around them
anonymously and therefore understand their community for better or worse.

No Joke
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No Joke
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Do you really think MLK would quietly step up to the roofer, or do you think MLK would be worried about protecting his family from being threatened, harmed, or killed by this man? Because the King family suffered numerous attacks before MLK was murdered.

Erik
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Erik
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Haha, awesome rejoinder. Touche!

tax payer
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tax payer
3 years ago

Way to focus on protecting white people’s feelings and lives over the protection of people of color.

do you understand that sentence is racist. you are implying that all white people are racist/nazis

Anon
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Anon
3 years ago

I read this follow-up as almost perpetuating the aggressive attention on this guy and furthering the negative conversation! It’s interesting how differently people can perceive things, and get butthurt no matter what . 🤷‍♂️

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Yes, it is interesting.

Eric Kirk
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Eric Kirk
3 years ago

See, this is the problem with the discussion. So many people think about racism in terms of good and evil. We have these few bad racists and if we nail them to the wall, then the rest of us are all just fine. The fact is that racism permeates everything about our society. A white power t-shirt is just an overt manifestation of it, but you won’t see that on everyone who discriminates against someone for employment or housing; or finds a legal excuse to refuse service; or harasses someone in public while avoiding the more obvious terms; or otherwise quietly dismisses someone’s humanity behind the facade of a smile and polite behavior.

Do I sympathize with him? I don’t know. I sympathize with his kids.

I do however empathize with him because by virtue of a different upbringing, life experiences, lack of exposure to peoples’ humanity, and a lot of fear in my life, I might not be much better. Racism isn’t about individual character or virtue. It’s what we call “systemic.” And in the rush to punish him, we might ask whether we do it to feel superior and deny our own bigotries based on color, ethnicity, religion, gender, or sexuality. There is no human being who walks the planet Earth who is entirely free from it.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Kirk

Well said.

Amy
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Amy
3 years ago
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T
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T
3 years ago

Yes!!!

Jonathan Peirce
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Jonathan Peirce
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

You should take your own advice Kym, You are on of the biggest hypocrites I have ever seen.

Elvis Costanza
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Elvis Costanza
3 years ago
Reply to  onlooker

Yes, he wanted attention and he got it. When you’re that provocative you can’t expect to control the responses you’ll get.

Me
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Me
3 years ago
Reply to  Elvis Costanza

Yeah I’m sure he wanted to be plastered all over the news and doxxed over a moronic tshirt , that was probably his goal yesterday 🙄

No Joke
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No Joke
3 years ago
Reply to  Me

Why else would he have worn it, then?

Dan F
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Dan F
3 years ago
Reply to  Elvis Costanza

Exactly so!!!!

anon
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anon
3 years ago
Reply to  onlooker

boo hoo cry me a river..its time for the racists to react/run in fear. A lot of us had to put up with this crap from idiots like him all our lives.. it’s long past time he&they feel harassed and thoroughly unloved

the harassment is WELL DESERVED and way long overdue..

ya reap what you sow

anon traveler

tax payer
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tax payer
3 years ago

i sure learned something yesterday. there are a lot of people who are racist toward white people, they even went as far as to specify white men. disgusting

C Armstrong
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C Armstrong
3 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

Yes there are, taxpayer. Ever wonder why? Maybe its guys like this? Look, as long as we attack each other, this will never end. Hate begets hate. Perhaps the fellow espousing ‘white power’ realizes whats its like now?

tax payer
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tax payer
3 years ago
Reply to  C Armstrong

there are bad apples in every barrel. does that mean we throw away the whole barrel and all barrels like it. no. you throw out the bad apples

Bob Dole
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3 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

The actual saying is “A few bad apples spoil the bunch”, so in context yes, we should throw out the whole barrel.

tax payer
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tax payer
3 years ago
Reply to  Bob Dole

But it’s curious that the proverb has become so much more popular now that its meaning has flipped, particularly because in general we don’t use proverbs as much as our ancestors did.

https://www.npr.org/2011/05/09/136017612/bad-apple-proverbs-theres-one-in-every-bunch

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

If you tend towards noticing the rotten apples of only one color and ignore the bad apples of another you are still going to have a barrel of rotten apples, tax payer.

When you say “they actually had a bridge construction project that only included “minorities” in the construction industry and the bridges failed and killed people underneath them. i think it was florida” You’re noticing the bad apples of one color. But you’re ignoring bridge fails in which minorities did not play a hand.

It’s not that you individually meeting a person color would be unfair to them. Most of us at least try to treat people we know fairly. It’s that you don’t seem to understand that our culture/ our system makes it generally harder for most people of color to advance at the same rate as other people.

Imagine if there was a marathon. Everyone is lined up at the starting line equally. Then the announcer says, “Everyone who lost a parent, take a step back. Everyone whose parent is in jail, take a step back. Everyone whose parents never finished high school, take a step back. Everyone whose combined family income is under $100,000 a year take a step back. Everyone whose combined family income is under $50,000 a year take a step back. Everyone whose combined family income is under $20,000 a year take a step back.” etc.

Then conversely, if the announcer said, “Everyone whose combined family income is over $1,000,000 a year take a step forward. Everyone whose parents can pay for tutoring take a step forward. Everyone whose parents have lots of time to spend with you take a step forward. Everyone whose parents never lost a job to racism and thus lost income take a step forward.” etc.

Pretty soon some people are so far ahead they “win” the race.

That’s the situation with our system—some people begin so far ahead of the people at the back, they aren’t even in the same race. That’s what happens to rural people, to poor people, to black people, to women. That doesn’t mean that every rural person, every black person, every woman is as a whole disadvantaged BUT as a whole, the system disadvantages a large proportion of minorities.

tax payer
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tax payer
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

first off no. i mentioned the bridge project because they didnt hire the best person. they hired people who signed up for a special minority work program. same would happen if you had a work program just for white people, then you might not see the smartest and best apply for that job. plus these bridges i am speaking of are simple footpath overcrossings and not something new and experimental or super hard. all races have made great bridges.

” It’s that you don’t seem to understand that our culture/ our system makes it generally harder for most people of color to advance at the same rate as other people.”
this is way wrong. wherever you got that analogy is crazy because i dont think you came up with it but if you did no offense. first there are a lot of different white people. there are plenty of white people with all of those negatives you speak of. i think the biggest hindrance is not growing up with a father. now you can look up why black people are more likely to not have a father and i would blame the democratic government policies like welfare.
the system probably disadvantages a lot of white people as a whole too. if you are just trying to say there are more white millionaires in america, then that pointless. there are more indian millionaires in india, so what. what about all the young white people who grew up poor? why discriminate against them?

what i am hearing is that you support giving a government bridge building job to someone based on race. that is racism or what some call reverse racism. what is wrong with merit based employment?

stuber
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stuber
3 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

Any bridge or other big project has INSPECTORS. Those people who run around with clip boards checking shit out. No one hires just a certain group and let’s them have at it, without strict supervision. And there are many projects that failed, and only white people were allowed to work and design and engineer them. But white people are the minority throughout the world. Except in Norway, where they are not so much white, but more of a translucent pale. Until recently, they did not have x ray machines. They just backed them up to a 1000 watt bulb, and the docs could see everything in there. And if you want to get through this race crap, do yourself a favor, and listen to some George Carlin, who was given a doctorate in race relations. Go ahead, listen to it, it will definitely help you, kind of a shock and awe moment for you. And for a real treat, his seven words you can’t say on TV will just impress the shit out of you. In my time, you would get arrested for saying those words, on stage, or on the radio, or TV.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  stuber

stuber, you made me chuckle.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

But for some reason we leave out poor white men. Why?

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

cough…so men aren’t people now? I specifically said poor people.

onrust
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onrust
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym – Great reply and description of how it works.

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

If it’s a marathon, my money’s on the Kenyans.

😉

FanOfGuest
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FanOfGuest
3 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

Remember, only white people can be racist. Any hate directed towards white people is just called oppression.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  C Armstrong

C. Armstrong, Well said.

FanOfGuest
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FanOfGuest
3 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

So we are advocating death to this man? Making his kids hide in fear. Pictures of a noose to hang him. And people are all “pitchforks n torches” for it? That is truly sick and makes me quite disturbed. Who are the real nazi ass racist’s? All because a guy is SUPPOSEDLY a white supremacist? For wearing a shirt with a Maltese cross on it? Really? Wow, such hate. And even repeated news…… sad. This is a great example of the division and hate that is stirred int0 media from leftist liberals folks. Your looking at it.
[edit]….. and Nick, sue Tom for every last penny he has.
I told you all there is more to worry about than covid-19!

FanOfGuest
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FanOfGuest
3 years ago
Reply to  FanOfGuest

Look! I’m a racist!

JustAnObserverOfTruth
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JustAnObserverOfTruth
3 years ago
Reply to  FanOfGuest

The Maltese cross remains the symbol of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta.

The Maltese Cross is the symbol of protection. It means that the firefighter who wears this cross is willing to lay down his life, just as the crusaders sacrificed their lives for their fellow man so many years ago.

Ex EMT
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Ex EMT
3 years ago

That is actually a picture of the St. Florian’s Cross, or just Florian’s Cross.

FanOfGuest
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FanOfGuest
3 years ago
Reply to  Ex EMT

Yeah, I’m well aware of that, sarcasm.

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
3 years ago
Reply to  FanOfGuest

No… You are a sexist. It’s now termed “Firefighter” LOL

Ice
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Ice
3 years ago
Reply to  FanOfGuest

Not the same design he was wearing at all.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
3 years ago
Reply to  FanOfGuest

Probably! Definitely a dipshit!

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  FanOfGuest

Sue him for posting a picture of a man? In that case, I’d be in trouble several times a day.

FanOfGuest
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FanOfGuest
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Sue him for civil damages, lose of work, defamation, I could on?? Just saying there are grounds for that, this is still America. I’m sure a good lawyer would come up with more “juice” to add to the order.kym, remember, he is not a criminal, maybe a scumbag racist, but not a criminal.

Only[edit]
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Only[edit]
3 years ago
Reply to  FanOfGuest

Give me a break! Sue me over loss of work? Sure I’ll go to court and even take the financial hit if it means this POS gets more negative press.

Eric Kirk
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Eric Kirk
3 years ago
Reply to  FanOfGuest

It’s not enough that you’re damaged by what someone has done. You have to have a cause of action. Defamation? An unaltered photograph is hardly defamation. Violation of privacy? He was wearing it publicly. Being mean? Even if I agree that it’s mean, being mean isn’t a cause of action.

triniboldticino
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triniboldticino
3 years ago
Reply to  FanOfGuest

The “REAL nazi ass racists” along with their KKK, neo-corporate facist, skinhead, white supermacist and white nationalist and anti-semetic counterparts all vote the same way. I had a great uncle die in WWII at the hands of a nazi POW guard. I will NEVER vote the same as those scum. Simple choice.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago

The most vocal here are putting extraordinary effort to hide in the grey area, convincing themselves that white people are oppressed, yada yada yada , on and on for days. Count the comments of the most vocal. I think they are trying to convince themselves of something, not us.
It’s not rocket science. It’s not complicated, but if you create enough smoke maybe you think you’ve given yourself a pass.
Some of these comments would be hilarious if the underlying motivation weren’t so revealing.
We’re all a work in progress, look at yourselves and why you’re commenting the way you are.

Jay
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Jay
3 years ago
Reply to  FanOfGuest

FanOfGuest while I agree that death threats are totally uncalled for, your premise that he is “SUPPOSEDLY” a white supremacist is weak, you don’t get a swastika tattooed on your arm like he has without being solidly committed to hate and white supremacy.

Anon
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Anon
3 years ago
Reply to  Jay

What evidence is there that’s HIS tattoo? Or is it just a picture of a tattoo ?

People are quick to assume.

Noneyobusiness
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Noneyobusiness
3 years ago
Reply to  Anon

The pic of said forearm tattoo is on his Facebook page. So it’s his or he is glorifying someone else’s tattoo.

Scott C Ohman
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Scott C Ohman
3 years ago
Reply to  Anon

The evidence that the tattoo is his is that the racist posted pictures of it on his own Facebook wall.

FanOfGuest
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FanOfGuest
3 years ago
Reply to  Jay

Was unaware of that until after I posted….pics of all this “supremacy “ would help. All I see is a noose. FanOfGuest don’t have fakebook

Ice
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Ice
3 years ago
Reply to  FanOfGuest

Fanofguest: It wasn’t a Maltese cross. The angles were 90′. It is the Stormfront logo, white supremacist group and site. The shirt also had the words ” White power” on the top and ” White pride” below. Can’t hardly be mistaken.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
3 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

Wrong thread! Breitbart is over there taxpayer.

Ullr Rover
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3 years ago

Is he a good roofer?

Other than that, he has a right to poor taste and socially unacceptable tee shirts.

Did the photographer call him out on his shirt? If not, posting it on eff-book and stirring up the virtue signaling mob is a petty move.

Eric Kirk
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Eric Kirk
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

But to be fair, he has that right and the rest of us have the right to comment on it.

Ullr Rover
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3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Kirk

I agree.

Second Racist Tattoo folks!
Guest
Second Racist Tattoo folks!
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

No he is a terrible roofer. I unfortunately hired him a few years ago and he was wearing VERY short shorts while working, shaving his legs while he was supposed to be working, using outdated safety gear, and MANY other things OSHA would have a word with him about. The short shorts were just too much and also where I noticed the second Nazi tattoo of the SS symbol located on his lower back area. Please call a more skilled, less racist roofer. Short shorts should NEVER be worn on a job site!!!

Ullr Rover
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3 years ago

Who wears short shorts?

https://youtu.be/8M8rt5Sfk2E

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

To be honest…I’m debating whether this is a troll comment. For various reasons, I’d take it with a block of salt.

Ullr Rover
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3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym, I assume you are referring to the comment to which I responded, “Second Racist Tattoo folks!”?

Homer wearing short shorts is not really trolling…

As per my response, I didn’t take it too seriously… especially with the SS tramp stamp.

catbus1974
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catbus1974
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Yup. If a group wants to be accepted/tolerated, it must accept and tolerate all groups. No matter how distasteful, or infantile. All of the sudden deciding that a wearing symbol, or a collection of words isn’t a protected right because we don’t dig the ideology is kinda weird.

Alf
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Alf
3 years ago

I thought at first glance this may be a fresh look from a different angle than the other article. Unfortunately, scanning through the “Tolerance” webinars I was once again highly disappointed. There is only mention of white people in negative or “privilege” tones. All others appear to be about how the other races are victims of racism from said white folks. Moore-Guynup is supposed to be an educator, not an indoctrination queen. She shares the responsibility of teaching nonwhite racism toward whites. I’m thankful I no longer have school aged children. One thing is for sure. She is a shameful example of education. She needs to rethink what her job description actually is. If this doesn’t happen, she has no business being in her profession. No child of mine would have been allowed to remain in her classroom.

TOTALLY SHAMEFUL.

tax payer
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tax payer
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

so what i hear is Kym is letting matt promote his racism toward white people on her site

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

tp, the suffering of our people is tremendous…Some of us had to own slaves and kill natives and it left scars on our psyches.

God, I recall the horror that some people suffered having to yell at black people to leave their stores and not drink at water fountains.

Look, individual people of every race can be more or less empowered than another person. Some rich black people are more privileged than poor whites. But insisting that someone who points out that there are inequalities as a whole between the races is racist is just a little too angry.

Just because someone is pointing something out that you don’t agree with, doesn’t mean you have to go wildly throwing accusations of evil at everyone around you.

Alf
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Alf
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

The most unfortunate part of the whole racism issue is that nobody who claims, for instance that white people had slaves or white people massacred Indians ever saw this happen. They hear it and proclaim there is no change. They claim they personally were affected by it. Both are lies, because these things happened a long time ago. I personally have never owned a slave. I have never killed anyone. I don’t even have known relatives who have. The problem is the Hatfields versus the Mccoys mentality. Letting the past be a learning tool instead of an excuse for a grudge that will never be overcome is the tragedy in all this. I can be proud of my heritage and still care about and appreciate those from different heritage. However, I can also just as easily lose that ability to care and appreciate others by their behavior toward me and those I love. It’s all based on treating others like you want to be treated.

tax payer
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tax payer
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

those arent my people. and what inequalities as a whole?

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

You may feel safe to trash your heritage at this moment, to think yourself better than your compatriots, but, if you lift your eyes from the ground on which you are standing, you will see that security isn’t yours at all but a gift from your ancestors. You are not better or worse. The definition of better or worse itself is a gift from those ancestors too. You have not earned the right to trash them. Even that right you were given. You have not even earned the language you use to do it. Stop pillorying them while still living off what they gave you. It’s embarassing. No one ever created equality by abasing themselves- that only reaffirms.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

ALL racism is Ugly and it comes in All colors no race is immune … Where’s the vaccine for that?

It can’t live if people refuse to participate. That’s the vaccine.

It thrives on attention and the MSM Media gives it a lot of Be Politically correct attention.

It’s purpose is to divide people and stop them from coming together for the good of all people. Don’t by into it.

FanOfGuest
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FanOfGuest
3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Yep. Obviously covid-19 is the least of our worry’s. Hate From ALL sides stays strong, the only thing left that is normal

Seamus
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Seamus
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

People forget that not all states were slave states, the 13 colonies began the process of abolishing slavery in the 1780’s. My family’s roots are from Michigan on one side and North Dakota on the other. No one in my family, as far back as can be traced, owned slaves or lived in a state that was not always slave free. Slavery was always the a problem of the South Eastern US. Somehow the whole country is blamed for it even though the greatest war in our country’s history was fought and won by white people who chose to abolish slavery. As for any other atrocities committed by early American settlers, I can say pretty surely that not every American alive in the late 1800’s tracked down and slaughtered Native Americans. Yes Native Americans, Chinese, Black, Irish and many other minority and/or poor people have been abused in this and every other country in the history of the Earth, it doesn’t seem fair or reasonable to hold it over the heads of people that weren’t there and don’t agree with it now. That is the unfairness that causes white people to hold their own grudge and wear provocative shirts, not some deep seated hatred of other races.

Kym Kemp
Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  Seamus

It is really possible to not have ever owned slaves, and still gain advantage over others because they are in a minority. For instance, without ever having actively tried to prevent black people from voting, maybe even actively trying to help them, their vote was discounted, and policies slanted away from them so for instance, homebuying was easier for whites than for blacks. So by being white, you start out ahead of someone of color.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Women we not allowed to vote either and many were white.

tax payer
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tax payer
3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

and a white republican (representative) male from california was the first one to step up and change that

Kym Kemp
Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Yes, rural people, poor people, women, people of color are all people who start with some disadvantages. Of course, a wealthy white woman of great intelligence and beauty is probably far ahead of a poor white man with no education.

I said this in another place but think of power in life as a race. Everyone has advantages and disadvantages. But if you were to picture steps forward for advantages and steps backwards for disadvantages, you’d probably notice that white males tended to congregate near the front of the pack in America and women of color towards the back. That’s how our system of inequality works.

tax payer
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tax payer
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

life is not fair. thats not how life works. the government is not made to equalize everyones start in life. government is meant to keep the laws fair, so if you rob a store you get the same punishment. life is not about whining about how unfair it is. life is about overcoming obstacles.

catbus1974
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catbus1974
3 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

NO. We are meant to keep laws fair. The governments job is to squabble endlessly about what a poor job the other party is doing, and to take an opposite stance to the other party’s initiatives as there’s still bad blood from way back. As well, finding ways to keep their pay in line with devaluation and inflation, while the populace works to fund all this during the day, and at night they opiate themselves with entertainment the likes of: Married with Children, The Cosby Show, and, well, opiates.

tax payer
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tax payer
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

no not all white people have any of your ‘left overs’ you speak of. and what the hell could a person today do to change the past that had nothing to do with it. nothing. do you even know what the last housing market crash was about? it was about giving loans to people who they knew couldnt pay them (hmmm i wonder who those people were (poor people))

Alf
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Alf
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Have you spent much time in the greater LA area? I used to teach there. My classroom had only 2 minorities. In over 90 children, I had 4 whites and 2 black. All the rest were Asian or Hispanic. So… exactly what is a minority? And this was in an affluent area covering everything from Pasadena, San Gabriel, Alhambra, Temple City and other surrounding townships.

I had children with parents that were multi millionaires from Marina Del Rey businesses. And they weren’t white or black. That only leaves two other options. I’m sure there are still places in this country where the minority counts are different than soCal, but the underprivileged nonsense is exactly that in this state.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

You’re a teacher?!? Bwahahaha! What a fucking joke. “What is a minority…” Dude you have no business teaching shit!

Seamus
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Seamus
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Do some groups have an advantage over others, absolutely! Does tilting the field to give advantage to one group in an attempt to level the field make it all fair?

Does something need to be done to remedy this? Yes!

But tilting the field in order to level the field (which can only work by being discriminatory) is not the answer.

Insert obligatory “I am not a racist” postscript: I have two mixed race children, I have never taught them that they should expect anything or that life is fair or that they should dwell on the past or blame others for their lot in life.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

That gave me a laugh. 🙂

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
3 years ago

Do not look for the speck in your neighbor’s eye before you remove the log from your own. As long as its ok to say Black Power or Native Pride, its ok for people to celebrate White Power and White Pride. No problem with that. Consistency is something the majority of people on this thread lack. If you are not consistent in your own beliefs are you even worth listening to?

triniboldticino
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triniboldticino
3 years ago

Um, no. But go right ahead. It’s America, and you can be wrong all you want. Here’s consistency: don’t vote the same as nazis. Period.

tax payer
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tax payer
3 years ago

all kkk members were democrats.

Switcheroo
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Switcheroo
3 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

And now they are Republicans. Funny how that works. Once the democrats changed their tune, the remaining KKK’ers ran to the open arms of the republican party where they remain today. PS I’m not registered to either party.

tax payer
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tax payer
3 years ago
Reply to  Switcheroo

the democrats never changed their tune. that whole switch thing is a lie that has been debunked

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

You know, that nonsense passes over there in the loco weather Repub thread, it doesn’t translate well here out of that echo chamber.
Just sayin

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Just sayin… Just sayin… Just sayin… Same echo chamber…

tax payer
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tax payer
3 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

so you are saying you dont want to hear this truth in this echo chamber? i dont think Kym wants an echo chamber. i think d’souza actually made a documentary about how they lie that the democrats flipped

Local farmer
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Local farmer
3 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

Were. Ya the parties have flipped if you weren’t paying attention. Are you going to tell us the south were democrats to. Ya no shit sherlock. Dems and Republicans dont stand for shit. Never did never will. Thanks for the history lesson brainiac!

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
3 years ago

Who said anything about voting or politics? I’m a libertarian. I believe everybody should be allowed to do whatever they want as long as it doesn’t interfere with me doing whatever I want. Him wearing a shirt doesn’t interfere in anyone’s life at all and if it does, you are truly weak. However, posting a picture of him on the internet and then lambasting him and threatening death on his family really interferes with his life. Consistent with my own beliefs, the people who are doing those things are the real enemies and crappy ass people. If a black power shirt doesn’t interfere with my life, how would wearing a shirt such as his interfere with yours? In fact this motivates me to go buy that t-shirt that he has, anyone know a place that sells them?

tax payer
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tax payer
3 years ago

or you could walk around in a black power shirt. no seems to get flack for that

lou
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lou
3 years ago

well said

10 toes
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10 toes
3 years ago

@1911 right on 💯! You nailed it !🤙🏻🙏🏻

Mike
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Mike
3 years ago

“I disapprove of what you say but I’ll defend your right to say to the death” or something like that. White supremacists are Aholes but this is America and they every right to exist as much as the NAACP. Ironically enough people that want censorship are anti American. If you could ban people for being stupid Scientology wouldn’t exist.

Humboldt Citizen
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Humboldt Citizen
3 years ago

Racism is bullshit and unfortunately it will never go away. Today I saw a young woman wearing a sweater at grocery outlet that said BLACK AF. But the second I was to wear a sweatshirt that says WHITE AF. I’ll be labeled a racist pile of shit.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago

I’m pretty sure if I were to wear a t-shirt proclaiming I was White AF people would laughingly agree. If the sun hits me right, it can be blinding.

Rudy
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Rudy
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Great comment. Thanks for a solid laugh!

Who Cares
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Who Cares
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

No. You would not be laughed at. Go try it in a city full of strangers. You will be treated as a poster child for racist Whitey’s. Go try it in Oakland see how many blocks you can make it.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Some of us get sunburned during a full moon.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago

It’s funny when people make up stories to back up their opinions, huh? I wonder why anyone would feel the need to do that, it’s kind of mind boggling.

SCOTT BINDER
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SCOTT BINDER
3 years ago

For the record, the Facebook group ‘Humboldt County on Alert’ did not at all provide coverage of this individual. It was covered more than completely in other groups and on thousands of timelines.

HCOA is currently focusing on positive messages, as well as keeping the community informed as to resources and local information to move forward in this challenging time. This was not a positive message.

old guy
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old guy
3 years ago

i’ve seen hundreds of ‘black power/black pride’ bumper stickers and shirts, how is this different? ( i still like the two dogs with ” white labs matter “).

Eric Kirk
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Eric Kirk
3 years ago
Reply to  old guy

The groups they represent are different.

No Joke
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No Joke
3 years ago
Reply to  old guy

Until very recently, black people were taught to be so ashamed of being black, and that being as close to white as possible should be their goal, that many used lye to straighten their hair and cancer-causing chemicals to lighten their skin. Black pride is about ending that shame.

The black power movement was about obtaining extremely basic rights and privileges – access to education, healthcare, voting, safety, and economic development. The white power movement is about nothing more than trying to have power over other races.

Alf
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Alf
3 years ago
Reply to  No Joke

A clinched fist is never a symbol of just “obtaining basic rights and privileges.” It’s no less offensive than any of the other symbols this conversation has mentioned when it comes to attitude and hostility. So please, spare me the power play.

Julian
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Julian
3 years ago

The race that oppresses all others CAN NOT CLAIM TO BE THE VICTIM OF RACISM. Such white fragility! There’s plenty of ways you might be oppressed (economically, etc) but not based on your race so stop claiming to be a victim. (Plus, “white” isn’t a race) PS: if you claim a right to white pride because you want to “celebrate your white heritage”— guess what? That heritage is rooted in genocide, imperialism, colonialism, and the predatory capitalist exploitation of conquered and less developed nations. Chill out, fellow white folks. You’re not being victimized.

tax payer
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tax payer
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

“The race that oppresses”

do you understand you are a racist.

there are people/individuals, not everyone of a certain race is the same

Switcheroo
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Switcheroo
3 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

It’s simple. Light skinned people were not brought to the this country as slaves and brutalized for centuries. Light skinned people didn’t have genocide committed against them as the Native people’s were. It’s not to say that light skinned people don’t have to struggle in their lives. But if you think that people who have been tortured and discriminated again can’t try to re-establish their pride after centuries of torture and death, then you might be a racist (apologies to Jeff Foxworthy).

tax payer
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tax payer
3 years ago
Reply to  Switcheroo

you are throwing everyone of a skin color in to the same group. do you understand that is racist? i never said there was anything wrong with pride.

Diane
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Diane
3 years ago
Reply to  Switcheroo

Actually, white people were enslaved and brought to this country. The captured Scottish were brought by the British to this country as slaves.

Throughout history, blacks tribes enslaved neighboring black tribes, Eastern tribes enslaved neighboring eastern tribes, white tribes enslaved other neighboring white tribes. Each group has enslaved some other group at one time or another.
Same theme throughout history.
Learn history and grow from it .

Black Rifles Matter
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Black Rifles Matter
3 years ago
Reply to  Diane

Hey Julian. Black isn’t a race either. Brown isnt a race either. Yellow isnt a race either. But that is how one may identify oneself. I don’t have a problem at all with the white pride part of the shirt. I’m damn proud to be white, but I definitely don’t agree with the white power sentiment though. And it looked as though it was a Celtic knot on the shirt. Whether he has swastika tattoos or not, there are many people in this world who have tattoos that we regret. I mean just walk around Arcata during a farmers market and you’ll see many tattoos that people shouldn’t have gotten. SMH

No Joke
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No Joke
3 years ago

Wow. You’re proud to be white? What exactly does that mean? You’re proud to not be black, Hispanic, asian, native, or mixed race. That’s pretty disgusting and it’s sad you don’t have anything better to be proud of.

Getting a swastika tattoo is not the same as getting a tramp stamp, a pot leaf, or any other dumb tattoo. Every American learns about World War II in school and knows what the nazis did. Lots of tattoo artists won’t even do swastikas. He knew what he was getting, and if he’s had a change of heart, he should have gotten it covered.

Anon
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Anon
3 years ago
Reply to  Diane

But learning history and the suffering of blacks at the hands of other blacks, and the suffering of whites at the hands of their own , that would negate the entire premise of the rage that’s grown to hold a life of it’s own! And we can’t have that . It would invalidate white “fragility” and “privilege!

FanOfGuest
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FanOfGuest
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Other races of color just practice genocide and exploitation of there own people, I guess that’s not racist huh?

Ullr Rover
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3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

You would be hard pressed to find a group of people who have not been under the heel of another group of people at some point in history.

Switcheroo
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Switcheroo
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

And that makes all of them wrong, correct?

Ullr Rover
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3 years ago
Reply to  Switcheroo

I don’t understand your question. That makes all of who wrong about what?

Mama
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Mama
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

THANK YOU 👏 @Julian

Who Cares
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Who Cares
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

All heritage is. We all come from Savage people. All colors owned slaves,all colors fought each other in wars of conquest.

All colors have good and evil. The story that Blacks are good victims and whites are bad oppressires is a lie.

One more time. All people of all colors from all places have good and evil in their past. All people are equal, equally capable of good or evil. Anything else IS racist.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I guess you didn’t hear about the Irish, the Italians, and other races being discriminated against. Or Africans selling slaves or the Spanish in South & Central America or Indians in Mexico. Ever hear of the Romans slaves?

Me thinks, The USA is one of the first countries to try and do away with crap although it still exists.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Since we are all lumping everyone into groups based on skin color, which is about as “racist” as one can get, why are ya’ll leaving out the Jews? They are white and they have suffered more hatred and genocide throughout history than any other group of people. Do they not fit into your rhetoric?

Local farmer
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Local farmer
3 years ago

Jews are white? Maybe ones who are part european. Jews are middle eastern. Pure jews are not white.

Who Cares
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Who Cares
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

All heritage is. We all came from the same jungle. Killed or got killed. Human history is bloody. Forget race.

Anne
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Anne
3 years ago

Aw, boohoo! The man who reps hate groups that has killed thousands, right down to the SWATSTIKA tattoos he’s permanently put on his body, is now afraid for himself and his family?! Somebody call the waaambulance!

I wish I had more sympathy but honestly all of it lies with the folks and their families who have been murdered over the years due to blatant racism such as Nick Williams.

Dan F
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Dan F
3 years ago
Reply to  Anne

WELL said!!!!

Disappointed
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Disappointed
3 years ago
Reply to  Anne

Exactly. So not surprised to see this paper focus on the feelings of a white man WHO IS A NAZI over protecting people of color in this community. Way to reveal where your sympathies lie, RHBB.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  Disappointed

In this comment, you broke one of my rules which if you are so cowardly as to use “your” email address to insult me, you will get banned. This is your one chance.

Willie Bray
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3 years ago

🕯🌳Tic tock knock knock here we go again. 🕯🖖🌍🐸

Diamond
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Diamond
3 years ago

There is no place for racists in Humboldt!

alfred
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alfred
3 years ago
Reply to  Diamond

news flash, humboldt is the result of white conquest over the natives.
This whole community is based on white supremacy and there is a place for it here.
Humboldt county is a white homeland and this is a white community
Also it is ok to be white! being white is a great thing!

Who Cares
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Who Cares
3 years ago
Reply to  alfred

EVERY community is the result of conquest. History is long, and full of atrocities committed by all colors. Just because Whitey’s were the most recent, doesn’t mean we are the only ones with blood on our hands. Humans, all humans, have blood and darkness in our past

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Diamond

There’s no place for racists in this world!

Dave flowery flowery arcata tall dude
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Dave flowery flowery arcata tall dude
3 years ago

So sick of you liberal [edit]

If the same company had a black man that came to the job site with a malcom x tshirt he would be honored in this backwards policitically toxic culture

Do we really want people to hide who they really are ? Or should we celebrate that we live in a country that has Consititutional rights given to us since birth.

You may not agree with that man in the shirt I get that.

However, if you have a little bit of sense and intelligence to you, you will REJOICE in him wearing that shirt. It’s an example of the wonderful freedoms that our forefathers fought in the trenches for.

Or are you willing to also give up our rights to self expression? Put a mask over my face? Judge me for the content on my tshirt? What on earth happened to our individual rights.

Finally, I love seeing white power ,black power and also green power tshirts. We ALL need to be empowered….
not only minorities and women and gays

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago

Gotta get me a shirt that says people power
Love one another right now!

Marvin 4 min.

https://youtu.be/9KKEXZTrvAU

A great song by a black man posted by a white woman
could easily be sung by a white man and posted by a black woman but it’s for all people of every race.

Lady
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Lady
3 years ago

Maybe it was a White Power shirt meaning hail the white market and shun the black market?

Black Rifles Matter
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Black Rifles Matter
3 years ago
Reply to  Lady

That’s awesome

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Lady

😂😂

No One Cares
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No One Cares
3 years ago

Gosh, that’s too bad. Maybe he will have to hide his admiration for Hitler in the future.

Dancing in my head groovy
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Dancing in my head groovy
3 years ago

I’d personally be more offended if he had worn a Phish tshirt.

I honestly never understood what people liked about those guys.

I’ve always been a cheese fan myself

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
3 years ago

If the story begins with a fake …

Tom Tellez, the photographer, and author of the original Facebook post said the intent of the post was “not to attack [Williams].”

It was so.

You did well. You inflamed hate and racism. Pretty easy wasn’t it?

Matt LeFever is totally correct in his position of exposing the underbelly of our local racist club.

Kym Kemp, salute!

Jon manuel
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Jon manuel
3 years ago

Ummmm more importantly

What are his rates?

And is he a good plumber?

I dont think there’s many liberal trans plumbers out there folks . It’s a job filled mostly with wonderful yet very very umm conservative and somewhat close minded people.

Liberal [edit] try fixing your own roof and your own toilet if you gonna judge a boy by his tshirt for God’s sake

As for the people of color that may be offended …99 percent of you aren’t from here. Please not only respect the Humboldt beauty, try and respect the Humboldt culture and locals.

Peace goes a long way and doesnt stop at the peace pot pipe

Michael
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Michael
3 years ago
Reply to  Jon manuel

Actually many of the local ‘people of color’ are Native. If you are asking newcomers (white folk) to respect the ‘culture and locals’ perhaps you should learn about them.

Ice
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Ice
3 years ago
Reply to  Jon manuel

Jon Manuel: There’s a lot of liberal plumbers in Humboldt that do great work. Don’t lump them all together. Like BC Drain Care. Does great work and is a hell of a nice guy. Not a nazi.

Jon
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Jon
3 years ago
Reply to  Jon manuel

Dude is a terrible, unskilled roofer not a plumber. Better read the article next time!

Ice
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Ice
3 years ago
Reply to  Jon manuel

He’s not a good plumber at all. Because he is a roofer, according to the article…

Chinese bot
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Chinese bot
3 years ago

Is he chinese? Does he hate trump?

Just Saying
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Just Saying
3 years ago

Let me start with the fact that I do not think that wearing clothing that suggests white supremacy is okay at all and I do not support the idea of putting nazi tattoos on ones body. I think it is extremely distasteful and I think that this guy messed up doing that. But what actually pissed me off the most was the fact that almost literally everyone commenting on these Facebook posts were just as bad as this guy himself.. especially Tom Tellez. In the comments of HIS POST he was agreeing with people making those horrible threats and making a joke out of the whole thing. He knew what he was doing when he posted this all to begin with. He isn’t advocating for tolerance at all at this point. So disappointed in the way Tom handled this and also in Heidi Moore for getting involved as an educator. It was completely inappropriate as this had nothing to do with the school system really and instead of feeding into the issue she should have just stayed out of it.. she didn’t add anything but stir the pot more in a negative way. This guy is getting death threats because of these people and their inability to just leave things alone. And no I am not a “nazi sympathizer” just because I don’t agree with the way this was handled. I think that he should have been called out in private by Tom since that is the person that has the issue in the first place and he should not have turned to blasting the guy on social media.

Jodi moser
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Jodi moser
3 years ago
Reply to  Just Saying

I have been threatened and harassed because I asked Tom why he didn’t talk to him face to face, man to man or why did he think that taking his picture and then lie to him when he asked him what he was doing. Tom called me white trash all because I questioned him. All Tom has done is made many aware of what kind of man he is and he wasn’t even wearing a T-shirt. I would not hire or recommend Tom due to his dishonest, sneaky behavior. Leaves to question what else he does behind your back. He has proven to me that he is willing to promote violence and hate.

Another fishwife
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Another fishwife
3 years ago
Reply to  Jodi moser

Judi,
You sound like a troll fabricating a conversation with a man who has a stellar reputation in this community. Tom does not “harass” people and call them white trash.
[edit]

Local farmer
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Local farmer
3 years ago
Reply to  Just Saying

Ya your not a nazi sympathizer. Your just…. sympathizing with a nazi! Whaaaah! Cry me a river. Guy made his bed now he’s outed as a threat to society.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
3 years ago

Eh… If you go around proclaiming your hate for people based on arbitrary factors (color of their skin) and supporting groups that wish to harm and kill them, I don’t have too much sympathy for you if you get attacked for arbitrary factors (your face) and people talk about their wish to harm or kill you.

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
3 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

And how do you decide?

I’ve missed the book on PC racism.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
3 years ago
Reply to  Rod Gass

Takes common sense. Something racists like you never have.

Grin Reaper
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Grin Reaper
3 years ago

Bad business practices! Come on! If that’s how you dress when you apply for a job, you need a lesson on marketing and presentation. You’re automatically eliminating a bunch of customers. Just for starters.

NorCalNative
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NorCalNative
3 years ago

I found his shirt really offensive. A really stupid choice for someone looking for work.

Not my business
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Not my business
3 years ago

I would tell the guy the shirt is inappropriate and because of his poor choice and his possible beliefs I wasn’t going to hire him. I wouldn’t friggen blast him on social media. What he chooses to believe in is on him. We sure do live in a society that’s quick to hate. My thought is people that live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

DawnI
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DawnI
3 years ago

Not My Business,
What if you hired this guy, you’re ‘white’, of Jewish descent and he showed up exposing himself in this shirt and his Swastika when he’s half way done with your roof?
Would you feel safe having him working at your private home?
Of course we usually have no idea what a person’s beliefs are when we hire them because most do not expose their real selves so publicly.
The only good I see that comes of all this is that for Nick Williams the shoe is on the other foot so maybe he’ll get a better understanding of why people are upset with his choices.
I am not hopeful his fundamental ideals will be changed.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

Yeah, the shirt’s a stone…

and he shouldn’t a thrown it allright.

disgusted
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disgusted
3 years ago

the majority of these comments bother me more than his shirt does….did anybody ask him his views on white power? I give him the benefit of the doubt…maybe he is making just enough money to pay bills, food on the table and roof over his family’s head. maybe his washer broke, maybe he doesnt have one, maybe he had nothing clean to wear except that shirt. maybe he gets clothes second hand so his kids can have more. without asking him..how do you know? and for all of you making assumptions based solely on what is printed on the shirt….when you assume you know…you just made an ass out of u and me.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
3 years ago
Reply to  disgusted

Duh! I’m discgusted by discgust for nazis? Duh!

Another fishwife
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Another fishwife
3 years ago
Reply to  disgusted

Disgusted-
His OWN Facebook page showed off his swastika tattoos, etc. He was advertising his Nazi beliefs. Dirty laundry wasn’t his “reason” for wearing that shirt.

rollin
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rollin
3 years ago

More liberal hypocrisy….of course. I haven’t seen the picture but if what the liberal hypocrites are claiming is that it’s racist for a white man to wear a shirt exalting his race by proclaiming to be proud of it, then it’s racist for any other group to do the same. Yet, they do, all the time. And never do I hear a word about it. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

I pointed out a couple of months ago that the left is far more violent than the right. This incident is another fine example, and there are many. All over America today thousands of people will wear black pride, native American pride etc, t-shirts and bumper stickers and no one will look twice or give a shit. You cannot have one standard for a certain group of people and not apply the same standard to another group of people based on race. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF RACISM! So yes Julian (and others), white people do know what it’s like to have racism directed at them.
Even if you are a brainwashed, college dipshit who believes that whites are imperialists, oppressors, scourge of the world etc, it doesn’t matter. The standard must apply EQUALLY. Otherwise fuck off hypocrites! You are the ones sowing the seeds of division. YOU are the racists!

Guest who
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Guest who
3 years ago
Reply to  rollin

White supremacy groups are considered a domestic terrorist risk by the US government, on par with ISIS. If LGBTQ groups or Native American associations were considered violent terrorist recruiting organizations, wearing a shirt promoting them would send a far different message. White supremacists believe that others are inferior to them, and deserve fewer civil rights. They promote the idea that being white means being entitled to more than other people, and that they have the right to segregate others.

LGBTQ groups, black lives matter: these organizations are fighting to so their members can feel safe and be treated equally. They fight for equal civil rights and fair treatment. They don’t believe that their natural place is ruling over other people. They want to level the playing field. White supremacy says that anyone who is “other” has no right to a level playing field.

You can apply an “Equal Standard,” but you’re applying it to apples and oranges.

rollin
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rollin
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest who

Guest who, you cannot possibly be this clueless. He did not wear a shirt advocating the KKK or some other white supremacists group. As I understand it he wore a shirt claiming white pride, white power, which is exactly the same thing as wearing a shirt that says: black pride/black power. So yes, it is exactly apples to apples.

Lynn H
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Lynn H
3 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Stormfront members absolutely endorse violence against POC and Jews.

Am I looking at ignorance here or obfuscation? IDK.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
3 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Whaaaah! They do it toooooo! Whaaaaah!

rollin
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rollin
3 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

Local Farmer-typical liberal rebuttal. Thank you for solidifying my point.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
3 years ago
Reply to  rollin

I’m not a liberal. [edit]

Eric Kirk
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Eric Kirk
3 years ago

The death threats are way out of line and it’s a shame that we can’t discuss it like adults. I feel for his family.

But how does a grown man show up to a potential stranger’s house with a white power t-shirt and not expect a negative reaction? I mean, even most Klansmen have enough filters to understand why they need masks.

I’m sorry that his business is suffering, but there are consequences for actions, and whatever his reasoning, the shirt and tattoo are harmful to others and are bad for business. I’m curious as to whether he has done business with Jews or people of color.

WeseeyouprotectingNazis
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WeseeyouprotectingNazis
3 years ago

This article is clearly biased towards protecting a Nazi and RHBB has now outed itself as a Nazi sympathizer news source. Starting the whole article off with “A Humboldt County business owner’s photograph went viral” rather than identifying this man for who he is correctly….as a NAZI…and focusing on the hurt and afraid feelings of the white supremacist is extremely concerning. The community was alerted about the presence of a Nazi, which people need to know about in order to protect themselves. This is a community with rampant racism, which includes Black and brown people being murdered, physically harmed, unable to access housing because racists refuse to rent to them, children being called the n word in local schools and on and on, but RHBB slants their article towards the fears a Nazi has when the community finds out about him? RHBB your behavior here is TRASH.

Lynn H
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Lynn H
3 years ago

No, Kym really isn’t a Nazi sympathizer.

Is the article a little naive? I think so. Is Kym or her blog a Nazi sympathizer? No. Kym has consistently stuck up for POC and against racism. Anger and inflated accusations directed at someone with good intentions usually doesn’t help.

Rose
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Rose
3 years ago

“All is takes forever evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing “
I am so sick of racists and misogynists believing they have a right to spew their hatred everywhere while the rest of us are supposed to look the other way and say nothing
Trumps reign of spewing hatred not to mention suggesting people inject themselves with a disinfectant, has truly gotten so out of hand
Where are the hero’s who will stand up to this?
Do this man wants a pass???
Nope
Not gotten happen
People are fed up

Meee
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Meee
3 years ago
Reply to  Rose

Actually they do have a right to spew their hatred. It is called the 1st amendment. If you don’t like it them move someplace where the movement tells you what to think and see if that is any better for you.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Rose

He sure has a lot of people of color for him for such a racist and the left sure tries to take them down.
Candace Owens, Kanyee West and many others!

Google images and you will see him with a smiling Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson and many others!
Of course that was before he was POTUS, and they wanted campaign money from him. Even a smiling Hillary hugging him.

Zipline
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Zipline
3 years ago

All the comments in this section is just talk. Nothing more. The sound and the fury……The great thing about Trump is that he has revealed to ourselves and the world what amerika truly is. A group of ignorant, unintelligent, idiots. Political correctness does not change people’s thinking just makes them less willing to express their beliefs. Trump has allowed the idiot masses full reign. Sit back and enjoy the decline and fall of the oh so brief american empire.

Alf
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Alf
3 years ago
Reply to  Zipline

Look in the mirror. Obama was an active member of a church whose reverend spewed more racism and hatred for others than anyone else I can think of – and all in the name of God including his famous God damn America. He was proven to have close associations with known terrorists. He was a huge advocate of pulling the race card. Because of all this as well as his policies, that’s why he was bad for America. Trump is not perfect, but he says what he thinks and does what he says he will do. He has definitely done far more for minorities than Obama. Every word he says is twisted by the liberal media so much that there isn’t even a resemblance of the original. So keep on hating him if you must, but remember, hate was the fuel Obama chose. Nancy, Chuck and AOC use the same fuel on steroids.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

But but
OOOBBBBBBBAAAAAAAMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAA.

I knew this comment was coming. What a crack up.

Me
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Me
3 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Oh great , jim from loco is here to ruin this blog too?

Alf
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Alf
3 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Facts are facts, whether you choose to believe or not.

Noneyobusiness
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Noneyobusiness
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

Evidence please

Alf
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Alf
3 years ago
Reply to  Noneyobusiness

Maybe you ignored all this while he was campaigning, but it’s hard to forget watching the coverage back then. The likely truth is that liberals hate Trump and other Republicans so much, there’s no room in their memory for Democrats behaving badly.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

We are living AOC’s dream
No planes, trains. cars, ships,Jobs,…. does she walk to DC Capital to vote?

Alf
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Alf
3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Likely not. Leer jets, cars, etc. are necessary for people or her importance. Just like Al Gore.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Pollution is down, animals are roaming the cities.

Less noise pollution.

People are calling each other because they care.

How many less DUIs & related fatalities…

Frankly, I like it.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Zipline

Well said.

Zipline
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Zipline
3 years ago

Ancient Chinese curse – “may you live in interesting times”.

Meee
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Meee
3 years ago

One thing I did not notice anyone saying was the fact that he has a right to his opinion, no matter how screwed up they are.

In the 1970’s a Jewish lawyer took up the case for a KKK rally that had been denied in the south due to their views. He fought and won for them, but would not accept any money. When asked why he took up for people that hated him, he stated, as soon as we start to stop one groups opinion due to popularity we are doing exactly what the Nazis started doing in the 1930’s, repressing unpopular opinions and freedom of speech.

Let me put the 1st Amendment up for all you trolls who believe this guy should not be allowed to speak is screwed up ideals.

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

Read it and learn people. When you start saying he can not have his opinion and voice them you are automatically setting a precedent and someone can find your opinion offensive and keep you from having yours. Now quit whining, grow an damn backbone, and get on with your lives instead of being a professional victim and looking for things to be offended over.

Ullr Rover
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3 years ago
Reply to  Meee

I’ve said it multiple times in multiple stories.

“I may not agree with your opinion but I’ll fight for you right to express it.”

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Careful. You might be fighting for the next Hitler.

Sometimes, infact all times, it’s wise to use judgement before fighting.

But honestly, I’m far more judgemental and less accepting than most I know.

Me
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Me
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

yeah , this dude is totally the next hitler. He’ll probably be voted into congress in the next few years , the presidency a few years later.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Me

That was not what I meant.

I support banning extremists from social media so as not to give them a platform.

This man is not a threat to become Hitler, obviously.

But the extremist ideas he follows support the next Hitler, and judging what speech I’m going to fight for is my perogative.

Ullr Rover
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3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Who gets to judge what constitutes an “extremist”?

Not long ago interracial marriages were thought to be extreme.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Yes, when you get to the nitty gritty, it can be complex to sort out the difference.

But I’m happy to not see Alex J or Louis F given any leeway to spread their hate and lies.

Many things are clearly extreme, some things are not as clear.

We all have different ideas as to what may be extreme, no doubt.

I guess it’s up to us individuals, individually to decide what is too extreme to support.

But after that the courts or elected officials have a say, in my opinion.

Ullr Rover
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3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Jones and Farrakhan both have the same rights you do to spout bullshit. And, like you are I, if they defame, slander or libel someone they are responsible for what they say. That in no way diminishes their right to thought and speech.

The 1st Amendment is sacrosanct.

“Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press…”

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

See 2 comments below, or click:

https://kymkemp.com/2020/04/27/viral-photo-of-north-coast-man-wearing-white-power-shirt-tests-our-civil-discourse/#comment-1048257

There are limits to everything.

But the fact is, they were banned for breaking private company rules, not taken to court for….oh wait.

Ya Alex was taken to court over his Sandy Hook comments.

And lost.

Ullr Rover
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3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Private entities have their liberties as well… unless you bake cakes.

“defame, slander or libel”

The limits on speech are very narrow and almost entirely geared towards the call to action not the speech itself.

tax payer
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tax payer
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

hitler banned speech. he even burned books that didnt jive with him. you sound a lot like hitler

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

Categories of speech that are given lesser or no protection by the First Amendment (and therefore may be restricted) include obscenity, fraud, child pornography, speech integral to illegal conduct, speech that incites imminent lawless action, speech that violates intellectual property law, true threats, and commercial speech such as advertising.

…..

The Supreme Court has held that “advocacy of the use of force” is unprotected when it is “directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action” and is “likely to incite or produce such action”

In Gertz v. Robert Welch, Inc. (1974), the Supreme Court decided that there is “no constitutional value in false statements of fact”.[11] However, this is not a concrete rule as the Court has struggled with how much of the “speech that matters” can be put at risk in order to punish a falsehood.[12]

The Supreme Court has established a complex framework for determining which types of false statements are unprotected.[13]There are four such areas which the Court has been explicit about.

….

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exceptions

I was a vegetarian once too, gasp!

Or was your comment regarding oratory faculty?🤔

Bushytails
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Bushytails
3 years ago
Reply to  Meee

That works both ways. The white power asshole is as welcome to his opinion as everyone else is welcome to their opinion that he’s a fucking asshole who should be publicly shamed.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Exactly.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

The problem is that people are not treating him as an asshole. They are condemning his race, validating him in his racism, from the utter stupidity, the illogic, that two wrongs can ever make a right.

IN THE NOW not back then.
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IN THE NOW not back then.
3 years ago

I have seen Native Pride, Mexican Pride, Black Pride, Pacific Islander Pride, probably even Albino Pride!!
Someone called this guy out but not all the other Racist’s that are proud of their heritage???
Now that is a true Racist, to call this guy out ONLY BECAUSE OF RACE???
THAT USE TO BE RACISM!!!!!

guest who
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guest who
3 years ago

Saying the White Power movement is about heritage and pride is like saying ISIS is just a Muslim pride organization.

White supremacist organizations are now considered a national terrorist threat by the FBI, on par with ISIS.

Many are not celebrating heritage, they are actively working to oppress others and deny them civil rights. If Pacific Islander Pride groups were on FBI watchlists and seeking to infiltrate the military and plan violence against other ethnic groups, America would condemn them, too.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago

Thanks for this article.

It’s a good follow up.

I don’t support violence, threats, or doxxing.

I empathize with this man’s self-earned fear for his children.

It must be similar to being a minority parent, especially black parents, who worry everyday that their young one may be a victim of hate crimes or police brutality.

I hope he has some changes from his experience that he brought on himself.

I wonder what a follow up with him in a year or two would look like.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

It must be hard self identifying as a saint.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

As you have done many times.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I self identify as honest.

And I’ve called myself an asshole here more than once.

If either of those categories are your determination of sainthood, then call me old saint prick.

LevelheadedGenXer
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LevelheadedGenXer
3 years ago

If the Marine Corps taught me anything humanistic, Its there is only green. There is light green and dark green but there is only green.

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
3 years ago

That what my marine buddy tells me too, problem is, out here in the states, we have been raised to view ourselves as separate identities for the last few generations.
No striving for a integrated whole, just bitching about oppression.
I wish we had what you had, in the general public, but it’s a free for all out here, and collective efforts are lost in the babbling sounds of foreign languages

Who Cares
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Who Cares
3 years ago

Can I start a white entertainment channel? A white owned clothing company and call it “for us by us” wear clothes that say “white power”?
No. Because in our culture Black pride is good. White pride is bad. That’s racist in and of itself.
We are all equal….there were plenty of black slavers back in the day. America may have been one of the last to allow slaves, but not the first. Slaves were the norm for many colors and cultures for a long long time.
The story that white people are bad or owe something for their ancestors actions is ridiculous. All people, all colors,have good and evil in their past….because we’re all the same. You really wanna get over racism…it’s People Pride or People Hate. Because whatever you love or hate about any one color, is true of every other color too.

lost
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lost
3 years ago

The response to this mans shirt was just as distasteful as his attire. Good way to reach out, Humboldt.

MrsHalvorsen
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MrsHalvorsen
3 years ago

What gives me pause about this is one question: If it had been a black man in a Black Panther T-shirt that went viral locally, would there be an article written about how the community needs to temper their responses?
As a lifelong Humboldt resident, I can guarantee this hypothetical would also receive death threats – never acceptable, but an unfortunate reality. Or would our journalists shake their head, mutter, “How sad they’re receiving this hate” and move on?
Instead, we’re reading how we need to respect the struggle this white supremacist is enduring now that the public is aware of his actions and beliefs. This isn’t education, is soothing over a hurt white man who clearly never anticipated consequences to his actions. It’s frankly disrespectful to the populations his messages target.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  MrsHalvorsen

Really? You think I wouldn’t write an article about a black man receiving death threats? Please…

And we’re not soothing a white man’s feelings. We’re saying that threatening someone with death for stating their opinion (an ugly message on a shirt is free speech) is the antithesis of everything King, Gandhi and most liberal heroes stood for. Get over yourself and stop pretending you’re liberal or brave attacking from multiple names. You should be ashamed of yourself.

MrsHalvorsen
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MrsHalvorsen
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Yeah, this was my only comment on this thread, so “attacking from multiple names” is not a correct assumption. Mrs. Nicole Halvorsen is my name – the display name is not much of a pseudonym. I was born and raised here and have had friends receive death threats and nothing from local media.

My comment was not attacking or brave, it was pointing out that the theme in this area is woe is white man. There may have been discussion about King and Gandhi in the comments, but I was remarking on the article.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  MrsHalvorsen

You used some terms that duplicated some much uglier comments. If you weren’t the author of those, then please accept my apologies.

MrsHalvorsen
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MrsHalvorsen
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Apology accepted.

Kym Kemp
Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  MrsHalvorsen

Thank you.

BotThatNeverSleeps
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BotThatNeverSleeps
3 years ago

Lol. 99% of you are uneducated horses. First and foremost there is zero wrong with a swastika. It is a symbol Hindi magic. Nazis just turned it into a symbol of purity (btw it has been around for thousands of years)

Secondly, you must be in northern Humboldt to be offended by this lol. There are regular meetings down in sohum of asatru people’s. We were spooked at first, though couldn’t feel safer after talking with them.

Not really too sure why the article lol, someone trying to push the race stuff.. seems like the news I read on here is heavily focused on super weak news. Boo hoo some cop lady died lol, oh no he has a swastika!! Lol. Real news please, like the mortar rounds or missiles that were found on Friday off usal Rd?? Where’s that news?

Ullr Rover
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3 years ago

It’s the sunwheel (Old Norse sólarhvél) in the Nazi context… unfortunately for us Vikings.

https://norse-mythology.org/symbols/swastika-ancient-origins-modern-misuse/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika_(Germanic_Iron_Age)

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

In your dreams dude. You ain’t no where near the ocean.

Ullr Rover
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3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Stay out of my dreams.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

No.

You can row your little “viking” ship on dry land.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago

It’s the context in which his swastika is worn and if you happen to be wearing a White Nationalist type of shirt along with a swastika tattoo then it’s obvious.
We know the history of the symbol, so what…

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

All context all the time.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

Lol… it’s “Hindi magic” now? Like this guy knows anything about Hindi magic…

Weak.

T
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T
3 years ago

I wholeheartedly agree with freedom of speech, it’s his right to wear a white power shirt, probably not the best for business tho. If you wear a shirt like that and have a swastika tattoo you’re looking for a response, he got one. Maybe it wasn’t the right thing to plaster it on social media and death threats are never okay but I can’t say I feel too bad for him. I do feel bad for his innocent kids, hopefully it’s a wake up call before he teaches his kids his same ignorant views. White power shirts and swastika tattoos aren’t about pride, they’re about hate. If you think they’re not you’re delusional.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  T

Utterly sensible.

Another fishwife
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Another fishwife
3 years ago
Reply to  T

T,
This is the crux of the situation: White power shirts and swastika tattoos aren’t about pride, they’re about hate. If you think they’re not you’re delusional.

Thanks for succinct statement.

Willie Bray
Guest
3 years ago

🕯🌳The United states was conquered by taking the native’s from one country to fight another and what’s really bad is that the country that they were coming from they where being sold by one another. 🕯🐸🖖🌍 The Spaniard’s used the Mexicans to take our west coast before the British ever set foot on the east. Then with the help of the French and only 3%of the slave trade that was actually coming out of Africa the British Colonized the east coast,and they only really needed the slaves to grow food that had no clue of how to grow to feed the invading armies in taking land from the natives. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

KIDDZZ
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KIDDZZ
3 years ago

Thanks for the article, anything that brings this to light is a good thing for the community in my opinion.

There is Prejudice and Racism. They can look similar at times, but really they are rooted a bit differently. For a simplistic explanation, Racism generally originates from a place of Power, as in one group of people with one type of racial identity enslaving or otherwise taking advantage of (often violently) another group of folks that are different than the group in power. This often includes a difference in skin color, but certainly does not have too.
Prejudice is more about the general preconceived feelings or opinions about one group of people by or towards another group.
When a group that has experienced racism for generations wants to show pride in themselves as a way to bolster their resilience or esteem, I don’t take offense, as long as it is not negative towards another group of folks.
“Members of privileged groups can experience prejudice, but their experience will be different than the experience of someone who experiences systemic racism.”

Also, a certain situation can give me a different perception of the “Power” term (Or “Pride”.)
For instance “Nazi Power!” would give me the impression of more racism and oppression! But if I were to hear “Jewish Power” I would think of resilience and strength to overcome…

And stop using what happened, or happens among Black tribes in Africa as some sort of comparison to slavery in the U.S. We are talking about racism in America, and it has very little or nothing to do with what happened in Africa among different communities there.

In response to some other comment about social media. If there were no social media and I asked this guy for a quote, and he wore that shirt to my place, I would tell everyone I knew, and write a letter to the editor of a local paper to get the word out. I wouldn’t have to give my opinion on the matter, simply calling it out would/should be enough.

Who Cares
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Who Cares
3 years ago
Reply to  KIDDZZ

Can’t talk about slavery in America without context of slavery else where.
Slavery was a part of HUMAN history. You know where the pyramids came from right? Read some history, lots of colors had slaves.
The basic premise that we are all equal, means we are all capable of evil.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Who Cares

Everyone else did it, so it’s cool… right?

So tired.

FanOfGuest
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FanOfGuest
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Just remember people, when you buy Mr. Clean products, your supporting nazis. steel toed boots with white laces ,Nazis. Number 88 football jerseys? Yep nazis. Shave your head? Definitely a nazi! Being proud of Viking/Norse and German heritage? Most definitely a nazi! Hell, look at trump, he’s from Germany. Nazi! White shirts and red shoes?White supremacy. Don’t ever get a great white shark tattoo, because that is white supremacy too, and O, what ever you do, by any means…… teach your white children to be proud of themselves, that just reflects pride.Good luck out there people because nazis are everywhere.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  FanOfGuest

Chill pills, FOG… take 2 and call me in the morning.

Erik
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Erik
3 years ago
Reply to  FanOfGuest

Mr. Clean isn’t so bad ass. I once put a bottle of Mr. Clean multi surface cleaner in the wrong area of my kitchen and Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben summarily kicked the Febreze out of him, wiped the floor with his ass and put him back up on his shelf. Afterwards they got together my Eskimo pies, Chiquita bananas and the Land ‘o Lakes folks and demanded that i cease and desist buying racist products from our corporate overlords. I have to admit, i sometimes still buy Mr. Sparkle though, mainly because he is so disrespectful to dirt.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

No it’s not cool, but I won’t vote for communism to replace the few remaining Nazis.

Who Cares
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Who Cares
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

No. Not cool. But we need to acknowledge that it’s not just White people, all people are capable of hurting others….which should not be tolerated in any way, shape, or form. Acknowledge our history, and commit to never repeating the mistake we have made…just leave the color part out.

John Brown
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John Brown
3 years ago

[edit]
Also, to be blunt- this nazi critter is the enemy of the USA and our people and is an active threat to our civil society. Threats should be closely monitored and tracked to safeguard the community from harm.
Finally, i admire Ms Kemps courage and fortitude as far as putting herself in public opposition to the white supremicist and its ideals, but that is not a practical approach for everyone because it puts a target on ones back and we know all too well the history of violent terrorism this sub-species of human is guilty of. Consequently, publicly identifying oneself as the enemy of the enemies of America can have deadly consequences. That is not tactically smart either.
Just saying…

TDOG
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TDOG
3 years ago

Me personally, i only hate Albinos. They are all so Damn proud about being the “ONLY” truly White People. I mean like come on really people!!

I wish this guy’s shirt was black with brown lettering.HAHAHAHAHAAH!!!

That would be funny. 🙂

Perspective
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Perspective
3 years ago

LOL! “We won’t stand for hate” – “received death threats” 😂
My opinion is by acknowledging individuals and large protests, you are actually validating them. I shake my head when I see counter protests when the white supremacists are gathered. Let them walk down the street, don’t share photos and news stories. If nobody acknowledges them, then what did the achieve, nothing. They just preached to the choir. He has the right to his beliefs. He has a right to wear the shirt and get whatever tattoos he wants. People get all riled up over nothing. His beliefs don’t inherently make him violent or filled with hate. It just makes him ignorant. So what?! I guess it’s fight fire with fire for most of you. I just ignore it.

Dirty
Guest
3 years ago

Doesnt that shirt just mean hes strong white guy and hes proud

Ice
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Ice
3 years ago
Reply to  Dirty

Not with the Stormfront logo on it , as well as “white power” along with the “white pride”also. Changes the meaning. He has the right to wear it, just as the public has the right to pick other plumbers instead of him…

Jimie
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Jimie
3 years ago

It’s bad to go to an interview with a shirt like that on when they take his picture. Was he thinking. A picture of Nick Williams

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
3 years ago

Just here to post what the First Amendment actually says:

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

So, the government can not abridge free speech.

It doesn’t mean that some asshat can say whatever (whether words/t-shirts or whatever) he wants anytime any place without consequences. A violation of free speech would be some government entity causing him harm (the Skokie Nazi march. The ALCU took the case because it was a government entity that was disallowing their “free speech” (to be raging assholes by deliberately choosing a predominately Jewish village to march their Nazi asses through). The ALCU felt dirty doing it, but it was consistent with their views) . A negative public reaction to his choice of speech is not a violation of his free speech.

Kym can remove any post she wants, because it is her site. And that would not be a violation of the 1st. For example.

Hope this helps.