First SoHum Positive Test Speaks Out; She Says There Are More Positives in SoHum
After reading rumors posted on social media that the first person to test positive for COVID-19 in Southern Humboldt County was a retail worker, a woman contacted us telling us she was the first positive test and two people she was isolated with had now also tested positive and another was waiting on results.
The woman, who wishes to remain anonymous, said that she wanted to make sure that rumors didn’t keep people away from essential local services. She also told us, “I wanted people to know that [the first positive test in SoHum wasn’t] someone who has been running around town acting like it is no big deal because that is definitely not the case.”
The woman left the area with family to go to her daughter’s wedding before the Shelter-in-Place order came out and hurried back as the situation changed. “The wedding was also only 7 people. We didn’t have a huge gathering…We naively thought we wouldn’t get it…While we were gone, that’s when the ordinance came.”
She and family members came back on March 22 after flying through Chicago and San Francisco.
She said they were aware by that time they were at risk and put themselves in isolation as soon as they got back. “We got in our own vehicle out of the airport and came straight home,” she told us. “I even had to go the bathroom but we didn’t want to use a public restroom so we came straight home…Once we got back we self-quarantined…Thankfully, we have some really good friends bring groceries and leave [the items] at the gate.” She said that a family member “tossed” medicine over the fence.
She believes that they must have gotten COVID-19 in the airplanes or airport because no one else at the small wedding they were at is ill.
However, two more people in their group have tested positive. “One was my fiance,” she said. The other is a friend who lives on the same property. The woman’s son has tested negative and another person on the property is awaiting results of their test.
She wants the community to know “the only time we did go to town was to see the doctor and we didn’t leave our car.” She promises that they won’t be going out til they “know for a fact” they are negative. “We are in contact with the health department,” she said.
She added that COVID-19 can affect people in ways that they might not be aware of. Just yesterday she had to go to Redwood Memorial Hospital in Fortuna because she was worried because she was extremely dizzy.
They didn’t get out of the car though, she explained. “You drive up in the car and [the medical staff] come out fully suited up.”
She pointed out, “[The medical staff] want you to be really careful when you go the hospital. They are putting their lives on the line every time they are near us.”
Even though her group has been very careful to isolate, she says, she doesn’t want people to let down their guard. “Everyone should act like everyone has it anyway,” she said.
UPDATE: In answer to questions from readers, the woman told us that their friend caught COVID-19 from them. “There was a couple times we were too close,” she told us. “We realized it and moved apart but [I] guess that was enough. Or she might have touched a surface that [I] didn’t sterilize. [I’m] not really sure. We weren’t as careful the first couple days as we are now. [I’ve] done a lot of research trying to figure out how to keep from spreading it.”
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Thanks Kym. Enlightening.
How kind of the source to give her reassurances as to exposing others. I hope she has no repercussions from doing so. And wish her a speedy and uncomplicated recovery.
I appreciate her posting this letter. She has been responsible. Had our administration taken this kind of stance earlier we could have prevented some of the spread.
Thank you for being honest and telling the community your story. And thanks to the community for helping each other in these difficult times.
This story confirms that the government and airlines should have restricted air travel and closed airports a long time ago. And yet airlines are still running now, worldwide, with zero testing or protections to prevent the spread of disease. I’ll be looking forward to the first wrongful death lawsuit filed against the airlines.
There are some lawsuits developing in a county below us. It is not in the news yet.
Travellers broke Australia’s quarintine and brought it back, infecting others.
The lawsuits are not against the airlines, but against individuals who did not follow simple instructions.
Yes, if others misuse your product, you are not liable. So it is with airplanes, so it is with guns.
Guns don’t pull triggers, people do.
thats the smartest thing you ever said on here
Fast delivery!!!
Laissez-faire capitalism at its best.
Maybe you’ll even get them when you pay.
They’re probably Rand Paul’s overstock, and contaminated with Coronavirus. But that is ok in Laissez-faire capitalism too.
Enjoy.
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OMG, I bought some from Amazon a few years ago because of all the smoke from the fires. There were 24 for less than $50!!
There is no doubt about the gouging going on!
That’s more likely to be money laundering than price gouging. Although, there’s plenty of price gouging on ebay.
MUCH thanks to the victim for being a responsible citizen! We truly appreciate your actions and hope you and yours feel better very soon.
A thousand thank yous for sharing your story and for taking everything so seriously and being so responsible. And more thanks to all who support you and all who support neighbors and friends.
The only way out is through. We will make it.
Good to hear the truth in the midst of political bs. Thanks!
Thank you, Kym, and thank you to this woman who shared her story with us. We will all get through this together with honesty, caring and caution. Masks and gloves, 6′ distancing and staying at home will defeat this.
So every flu season (6-8 months) we should stay home, collect government subsidies, not visit people, don’t go to work, don’t travel AND wear masks n gloves? Coronavirus’s are not going anywhere soon. Mother Nature has the answer for humankind to survive and live in peace with enough resources and well being to go around.The problem lays with me, you, and the other 8.5 billion of us, we are ignoring the answer…..
And what is the answer? We should all give up trying to help ourselves and others, and let Nature take its course? That just doesn’t work for me personally, nor for most other people. It’s far more passive than sheltering in place to protect ourselves and our loved ones, with or without those fabulous government subsidies. I mean, I’m sure I can live a good life on a one-time gift of $1200, no need to lift a finger.
I have known libertarians who were extremely intelligent and thoughtful people — and that was their problem. They were so smart and thought so much about how the world ought to be that they completely lost touch with the reality of human nature. (Strangely enough, extreme socialists have the same problem. Both ideas really ought to work, but they don’t — because people are imperfect by nature.) I try to listen to them respectfully, hoping to learn something new, but this, FanofGuest, is an extremely stupid attitude, and discredits your intelligence.
I would say extreme attitude. I don’t know about stupid. I don’t have the answer, I’m just as willing to help out someone in need as the next. Survival of loved ones surpasses all else.
The human population will double in less than hundred years. Is that a problem? My guess is it’s not going to help one bit. I don’t have answers but depopulation is a must if we expect to survive as a species. Look at the world around you, it’s cahngeing against us, not for us. We are compounding it ten fold by our very needs of survival. Extreme. Yes. Ignorant not to believe…… that’s stupid.
Maybe COVID-19 is only the beginning of even more devastating viruses. Viruses feed on what is available. More people more places for dinner. The more people live in close proximity the faster the coronaviruses can travel and mutate. Makes sense that New York was hit the hardest. Any wonder why “distance” is the one of only way to stop a virus. Corona diseases and other similar airborne pathogens will have a smorgasbord of over populated places to react their havoc. Riding the packed population train of life in the next 50 years at your local populated station. The Pandora’s box has been opened and according to legion the box can never be closed again.
Spot on! ^^^ with climate change and arrogant practices of humans, that’s inevitable. We are not destroying the earth, we are destroying OUR very existence. Good luck people. I have committed my profession to the front lines of this, I believe it’s not only my civic duty but also the sacrifice that is needed to combat this. Ironically my number is on a list.One thing a can guarantee, this will not be over in 2 months.good luck people, and be kind to one another, it’s the one thing we can do. Kym, your diligence is unsurpassed.
Its just the latest! The City of Rome got down to 30,000 people around 5 or 600 AD from the plague. Around the late 1460s to early 1470s Europe losr 1/3rd of the population to plague. One of th he last plague outbreaks was in San Francisco in the early 1900s. Smallpox, Cholera, etc.
Of course this ain’t the last.
3,000 dead in 3 days in the USA. gain a little situational awareness. the flu equivalence is long gone.
With everyone’s shoes placed in recycled trays at airport security I don’t know how someone can safely get through air travel with contracting something. Such a gross and ridiculous practice, especially considering the orgins.
I went to Costco last week and while i was walking to the entrance some dude about 30 feet in front of me hocked a huge loogie on the ground. Although he’s probably not infected that’s how shit spreads. Track that all over the place with your shoes
Gross and nasty. Lots of non considerate men or guys out there. Same with not putting up toilet seats before peeing on them and walking away and not flushing them either. I see this all the time from teens to men in upper 80s in public bathrooms. Hate it !
If women cared they would put the seat up. It’s difficult sometimes to get a proper stream going especially after really good sex. It’s not our fault, we grab, hold and center aim usually with a 92% success rate. It’s due to a poor design when one stream hits dead center and the other stream hitting the side rim. We immediately lean over quickly and get up on our tippy toes but it to late the damage is done.
Men? A friend from out of town commented on how many women he saw in Humboldt hocking lugies. I didn’t believe him until a couple days later, as I walked up the stairs to the Courthouse, I saw a well-dressed, no-nonsense-looking woman walk over to the rail, snort up a big one, and hack it over the rail.
I realized he could have been right.
Can you imagine flying out of SFO after walking around San Francisco? The thought is gag worthy.
Or riding the subway. In NYC- even grosser than SF. Nice aged veneer of piss, shit, spit, vomit and motor oil on every surface of a city. I bet viral particles survive longer in an oil base. MMMMmmmm!!
Haven’t seen any evidence of street sanitation in the US like they’ve had in Europe and Asia.
The streets of San Francisco are washed and sanitized every day ordered by Mayor London.
for decades commercial nurseries have had sanitizing pads available for greenhouse doorways. They sanitize shoes and hooves. Doesn’t get every single germ but it really helps. Not so common with pot, but used in animal husbandry and flower nurseries.
They could use something like that but not as firm placed in the bottoms of trays. Problem is, people are discouraged from being creative problem solvers and people who are the heads of organizations are too specialized and insecure about anything outside of the box.
blame it on the shoe bomber. He’s the reason
Honesty is a beautiful thing. Thank you. Get well very soon and your family and friends also.
Thank you so much for both sharing your story and doing your best to protect the rest of us. I am going to be thinking of you in the weeks ahead and hoping for your swift & complete recovery.
Air travel is perfect for spreading disease. Each hub, like Atlanta, S.F. or Paris gathers travelers from all these places, mingles everybody very effectively, then sends them out to more far off places. I traveled immediately before this really blew up in early Feb. I’m interested in getting tested for antibodies eventually, I never felt sick, but damn, there was one couple SO sick on that one flight! They took off for places unknown in Salt Lake…After the milieu at customs..
An interesting map I saw last night: Somebody gathered all the cell phone data from everybody out on a beach in Florida, then created another map of where all those phones went in the next week. The cluster of phones spread out all over half the country!
Thank you for sharing your story and for being so careful. This is exactly how we will all get through this. Wishing you a speedy recovery!
What this woman did was VERY SELFISH!!! We were well informed by mid March not to travel, that airports were a danger zone. I had numerous friends cancel trips at the BEGINNING of March. One was an older woman who hadn’t seen her grandkids in a couple of years another was to go to So Cal to see his sister, another a family reunion but they stayed here. But not this woman!!! She left and brought back this disease to our community…………
Don’t be so mean, judgmental & down right rude. She did the right thing in the end & didn’t pass it to the rest of us. That’s on other folk. We need to support each other now.
What is selfish is not grounding all aircraft. Allowing US citizens to be put in harm’s way in a pressurized cabin is absurd. I do not blame her I blame the president, the person responsible, the person who should of made the decision. The racist who allowed the white dominant European countries to fly to New York. The same person now dealing with China to get respirators and PPE, sick propaganda shit like the Nazi. We ban them oops we need them to make us stuff, idiots!!!!
Ya it was trump’s fault that a selfish decision to fly to a hot spot and come back thru another hot spot, to bring it back. That is the most moronic thing I have heard. I can see why you L L would know what idiocies would be. So glad to have an expert !
You know where she flew? I didn’t tell you. But to my knowledge, it wasn’t a hot spot.
I respectfully disagree with that. All the flights back and forth from New York to Chicago in that time frame, how could it not.
Yes it is Trump’s fault he chooses the FAA chairman. Very poor decision to not ban all international travel. He made such a poor decision that it is effecting directly the neighborhood he grew up. His racist viewpoint caused his decision to only ban travel from one area when we live in a global world, very narrow sighted. Then to compound the narrow sightedness is the lack of leadership in preventing the spread by allowing still, right now, citizens to fly in virul incubators to every city in the US of A. Clearly he could care less for the citizens since he chooses the stock market over we the people!
Trump was the first world leader to ban any flights and more bans followed. Maybe he should of funded some green deals that congressional leaders tried to sneak in and the relief stimulus might of not been delayed for 10 days with millions of jobs lost in the delay. Obamma has been out long enough, stop with that race card. Time to find a new deck!
Trump was almost last on the timeline for for flight restrictions, fyi.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2019–20_coronavirus_pandemic_in_November_2019_–_January_2020
The corporate relief bill was drafted by the GOP and Mitch. The Democrats added clauses to protect money from going to Trump’s businesses.
That’s a party line cherry picked to create inaccuracy known as a lie. And even the linked article says it was pieced together from facts unknown at the time it was happening. It doesn’t mention for example that the US initiated health screening on January 17, 2020. And travel bans that Pelosi and democrats called “unamerican”.
Lol.
You say:
That’s a party line
But not to the Pissy Mariner who said:
Trump was the first world leader to ban any flights and more bans followed. Maybe he should of funded some green deals that congressional leaders tried to sneak in and the relief stimulus might of not been delayed for 10 days
Which is completely false.
But anyways, about your statement..
Health screenings on the 17th were not enacted by Trump.
And they were not enacted at all airports.
And they were not enacted on all travellers.
And they were weeks after other countries actions.
And what the fuck were these health screenings? People are still travelling today without temp. readings.
Trumps travel ban did absolutely very little, very late.
You want success?
Study the Taiwanese response.
* it should go without saying you can’t create a historical timeline for the future. Der.
The response of Taiwan cannot be compared to the US in real logistics. They are an island nation with an area of about Maryland and a population the size of New York state.
With regards to the rest of your Trump complaints, hindsight is 20/20 and you have the advantage of having zero consequences to how you would run the country. Real people making hard decisions with real consequences and no play book should be given a little slack for being human.
Taiwanese are human.
And you can compare them to the US because our GDP next to Taiwan is like the Titanic compared to a canoe.
The Titanic sank.
Yet the purpose of both the Titanic and the canoe is…..to float and not sink.
To say you can’t compare Government policies because of land mass comparisons is wholly absurd.
Not even hindsight in this case is 20/20. TRB has found a supported niche in Trump hating and will never have need for a reasoned exchange. The only goal in responding is to try to expose other readers to different ideas that are not so black and white. And expect the personal invective because it always comes down to the same rut- Trump is always wrong, and if anyone tries to say something slightly differently, they are just as bad. Yet, once sunk to that level, too much time can be wasted in another trek round the same ever deepening, circular rut. The real world is too confusing for those too attached to their rut- they can’t leave it.
“The whole a world should have shut down by mid January and all people of the world should have sheltered in place for 2 weeks.”
Easy to say. It has nothing to do with reality; much like your criticisms while using the advantage of hindsight and disregard for logistics of shutting down a country of 330 million people covering a large area of a continent.
For someone who uses historical quotes in contemporary discussions, who has repeated the known adage of “history repeats”, and as someone who demands personal responsibility – I’m astounded at your implication that we can’t learn from mistakes of the past.
Mental yoga for sure.
Is that quote you offered from me?
Yeah, I was on it.
And look, now we are shut down anyway, but with less control of the pandemic.
Here’s a quote from you:
Testing is only good for statistics
Ryan’s new article destroys that Hannity sentiment, so I don’t need to again.
Race card is an easy play when you ban China and not New York and sit back while the people die accross the United States. All the while you tell the states it is their problem yet he does nothing to stop the main cause of the virus spread. The part he has total control. That is just crappy leadership plain and simple.
The President does not have the authority to order a nationwide sray-at-home. A lot of powers are reserved to the States and getting them to cooperate, especially in the current climate of political spew, is difficult.
I am talking about airplanes. We can talk about the state borders which he controls as well but any legit negativity on the president’s poor racial leadership skills usually draws the ire of his followers so I am not inclined to pursue the topic. Since no one can debate with me and stay on subject.
By the time these people were flying around needlessly, my fiancé and I had canceled our wedding, set for this July.
What the hell is wrong with people?
Most are married. Run while you can before it’s to late.
It sounds like she brought it back to her backyard… Not the community. I appreciate her telling her story.
Thank you folks
Thank you for sharing this story. It helps to get an understanding of how this virus can spread. I certainly don’t fault these folks for traveling and appreciate their self-quarantine upon their return. I hope they have a speedy recovery with no complications. Again, thank you very much for sharing!
She sounds like a reasonable lady. I would like to get the scoop on the people from westhaven who were at the cannabis cup in Spain. Seems like they were reckless in their behavior.
I have had it confirmed to my satisfaction that the traveling group was not in Spain but another low risk country.
It doesn’t matter where they were traveling to. A “low risk country” during the ramping up of a pandemic is like a peeing section in a swimming pool. One must still travel on a plane and move through airports. Thousands of people from all over the world move through airports every day. What in the hell was going through the minds of anyone traveling anywhere during that time? At that time I wanted my cousin to visit from out of the area and had enough sense about me to cancel his trip. No way I wanted to risk him bringing the virus not only to my home, but community. All that being said, for a fact, Humboldt and Mendocino heady bros and sisters, did travel to Spain to suck on dab rigs. Hell a Mendo company even held a hash competition and plenty of people posted stories and posts on IG while attending.
Everyone brings their understanding of a situation to their decision making. Some folks may be further along in their understanding than others. But to be harsh when they are following the rules put in place by those in the government that have access to the best experts…? Well, that’s your choice but it’s not mine.
Hindsight is not so good either. “Close the airport” come the screams while not noting this woman drive back from San Francisco. A whole lot of people, especially when frightened, pick villains and then attack without any common sense like chicken peck other chickens to death over a spot of blood. Anyone who expects even most humans to act rationally is sure looking for disappointment.
Frankly this woman made a mistake in judging her safety in travelling. Obviously she did not deliberately choose to contract the virus. She says so herself, in hindsight, yet exposed herself to the slings and arrows of the blamers of the world because she sought to reassure scared people that she acted to avoid dragging others into her worries. I would tell her not to worry much about the criticism . There are always those who think in short bursts of emotional reactions, with little to no self examination, stopping at the first obvious object to blame. Panicked people are even worse, taking out their anxieties on others.
Westhaven? My son in law is working in Trinidad. How many people in Westhaven and how long ago did they test positive
If only everyone was this responsible it wouldn’t be spreading this bad
Would of helped if we didn’t put humans in a pressurized cabin but the planes weren’t Chinese so it’s all good.
Healing light & prayers for a speedy recovery. Thanks for your story. Thank you Kym! 🙏💕✨🌏
Um yes your wrong this person did work at the store and yes we work together as a community to get through things like this that’s why we live her!! People are not going to attack honest people, there going to support and rebuild and stand strong together and help each other through what ever it is, that’s what true locals have done here for decades, so if you don’t like it go back to from where you came from!!!
Well Mendocino has only had 4 cases for the last week and a half. I guess that’s cause no tests are being preformed in Mendocino.
Lake County 0, if you believe that.
Meanwhile there seems to be plenty of testing in Huffman’s Marin County.
Face it the top 1/3 of the state is California’s orphan and basically irrelevant to the politicians that only come here for what they can get, votes, taxes, fines & fees.
Otherwise we’re on our own.
And water.
Been waiting to hear more pertinent info when there was just 4 cases in humboldt county…everybody was like “humboldts a huge county, more details please” south,north , wtf . It’s obviously turned out to be a bad policy….like Trump ignoring or burying information. ….clue in. Hidi ng locations doesn’t help
“She and family members came back on March 22 after flying through Chicago and San Francisco.”
Are you fucking kidding me?! That borders on criminal negligence.
I have seen a lot of people not staying at home. I think that is big mistake. There has been a “little” good news from some places, but it is too few overall. California is ahead of most U.S. States in new people infections. That should tell people as the California Governor has stated this morning “Stay at Home!” It is way to early to think the virus is dying off. Dr. Fucia and the CDC is also saying stay at home for the next two weeks and maybe to the end of April. There is no indication the virus is slowing down. In fact, the opposite could be starting in California. If people are getting out because they think it is safe you could be the next statistic. We have made it this far and 14 more days to insure there is good data to say getting out would be safe would be worth the staying in the house.
Is there any more info on the person that tested positive that was on their property? Like did that person also go on the plane or did they contract it from the 2 people that came back from the wedding? That would be nice to know
🕯🌳Its not just the Airlines bringing it in Greyhound, Amtrak, RV vacationers and up to about two months ago every other lisence plate was from New York now they’ve all become paper plates.
Not sure why everyone is applauding this lady, common Sense would have told you not to travel anywhere during March, you shouldn’t have to wait for strict commands to do the right thing.
I agree with you that it was an awful decision that she had made. Although, not all people are practical and have common sense. It sounds to me that now she is trying to do the right thing by standing up an setting the story straight. We can’t go backward, yet forward-thinking is all we must do now. It seems to me that she realizes that it was a poor choice. Thank you gal for coming out and being direct now. I hope you and yours heal well. PLEASE HUMBOLDT COUNTY CLOSE OUR AIRPORTS except to healthcare workers/first responders only!!!!!!!!!
This story is inspiring and I am so grateful they have been open to share the experience. The public concern and expectations of behavior have shifted incredibly rapidly. Our view point on travel, small dinner parties, and more has rapidly shifted. This is a store of people acting intelligently and responsibly. Their carefulness is just that, full of care for our community. It is more inspiring that neighbors and friends have been so will to shop and run errands so they may continue strict isolation. On top of that it shows how careful and helpful our healthcare providers are. We all need to pull together. It looks like we are. There is fear enough to go around, but we have courage. If, you are not afraid at this point, I doubt you have been paying attention. Courage is to act decisively and with determination in the face of fear. The most important message is all of us working concertedly together can stop these chains of transmission, an effort made incredibly easier by this person and her household. Lives were probably saved by their actions and I can’t thank them enough. I feel comforted and moved by this story. Stay strong! Thanks Kym.
Well said. I’m comforted that most of us are understanding that hindsight is great but we mostly do the best we can with the knowledge we have. And these people appear to have done that.
Thanks, Kym for your continuous efforts to provide unbiased information. I appreciate the update on this individual and am grateful for her response to the typical small community gossip trail. A few things I was wondering about was her timeline since the virus, apparently, takes 4 to 14 days to manifest symptoms. When did she discover her first symptoms? Going back 14 days prior to her first symptom, was she still in So Hum and possibly contracted it there? What precautions did she take at the airport and during her flight? Most flights are almost empty. Just looking for helpful information.
Just so you know, 10% of cases experience symptoms after 14 days.
My symptoms developed on day 16.
The quarintine guidelines of 14 days need to be revised to 20.
my understanding, 97.5 % show symptoms at 12 days. Somewhere near 30% show no symptoms, ever. That’s is why the recommendation that we all wear masks, that way people with no symptoms but none the less are infectious will be masked.
You’re right, and I’m not sure if I’m wrong.
Look:
The median incubation period was estimated to be 5.1 days (95% CI, 4.5 to 5.8 days), and 97.5% of those who develop symptoms will do so within 11.5 days (CI, 8.2 to 15.6 days) of infection.
These estimates imply that, under conservative assumptions, 101 out of every 10 000 cases (99th percentile, 482) will develop symptoms after 14 days of active monitoring or quarantine.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32150748/
I bolded the section that I don’t understand.
-What is “CI”?
-What is the implication of that range of days?
But the study says conservatives estimates make it a 1% figure of symptoms post 12 days.
10% may be liberal figure.
CI: Confidence interval.
It’s a statistical device used to estimate an unknown value. In this case, they are 95% confident that 97.5% of those who have symptoms will exhibit them between 8.3 and 15.6 days. It could be more, it could be less, but they’re pretty sure it’s in that range.
CI stands for confidence interval. In this case that means there is 97.5% or higher probability that the true median day of first symptoms is between the upper and lower CI bounds.
Thanks!
Thanks for the article!!!! But I’m still wondering if this was actually contracted in So Hum before she left. And, yes, masks for all if you must leave your home!
Agreed. I’m now at 21 days but I know the extreme case was somebody getting symptoms after 25 days. This asymptomatic thing…that means I may never have symptoms but I can still be a carrier. How long is that for? I am quarantining for others but I am ready to start delivering food as soon as I’m cleared. But..ummm…there aren’t any tests available…So I could be carrying the virus, I can have it w/ zero symptoms and shedding it but for how long could that last before I am considered clean?
From what I’ve read, the median time for viral shedding of the covid virus is 20 days. Median.
Median duration of viral shedding was 20·0 days (IQR 17·0–24·0) in survivors, but SARS-CoV-2 was detectable until death in non-survivors. The longest observed duration of viral shedding in survivors was 37 days.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30566-3/fulltext
Which flight was it? Number/time? How does one contact United? Thank you!
It seems awfully silly to applaud this woman for not using common sense and canceling her non essential trip, at that point on the timeline she could have consulted a doctor or simply thought for herself instead of relying on the governments slow paced reactive guidelines. After all she brought this infection into the community did she not?
Right, my mind is blown that everyone is so proud of her for waiting to be forced into doing the right thing. So ridiculous.
She says she immediately self-isolated. No government forced her.
The federal government controls the airplanes and allowed the airlines to sell and redeem tickets. The airlines even dropped their prices to intice the citizens of the United States to board their virus infested aircraft. You are good that the federal government as late as March 22nd and is still currently allowing citizens to fly and you think she made a poor judgement. Ridiculous.
[edit] Are you serious right now?
Very serious actually. Extremely poor leadership from the president not grounding all aircraft. He controls the airline industry which has been the main cause of the spread of the virus which directly affect the citizens of the US. It’s killing people and he is still allowing viral incubators to cross back and forth and he just has to say stop, wtf!!
Now it has to stop? When travel was stopped from chi na I recalled someone was called a racist and everything else they could think of because. Of it! Then it was banned too late. If Trump cured cancer, it would be ridiculed. Some people can’t still get over he won, doing a great job with his hands tied behind him with having to fight numerous fronts. He has secured the 2020 race and all the critics can have 4 more years to bash some more.
He won’t win if most of his voters die because of his poor leadership.
There’s nothing stopping the county from quarantining all passengers who disembark at ACV. Nothing but the fucking greed and mendacity of grifters.
Silly is an understatement…. but I strongly agree with your ideal. No applause, just total disgust.
Yes, this person should have known better than to travel by air at that time and made an imprudent and unsafe decision carrying through with her plans. But since then she has done everything right. She should be commended for coming forward to warn people of the danger. And Kym should be commended for getting out the facts (without invading anyone’s privacy) before the rumors take hold.
I flew at that time. There were absolutely NO travel warnings, no signs at any airports, zero government advice about that, We even had leaders telling us it was nothing much and going to go away so don’t worry. NOW you are full of hate and too-late advice, Captain Obvious. Thank YOU- for nothing helpful at all. I did like this person and immediately quarantined upon arrival. On my own- nobody including you told me to do it. Why weren’t you out there at ACV with a sign- you care so much. Why don’t you direct your frustration at those who did not quarantine? I know there were a bunch of them on my plane out of SFO. I was the only freak who brought wipes on board and sterilized my seat and tray and wall, refusing open containers from the stewardesses. NYC blew up 3 days after I returned…Vent your frustration at people who never bothered removing themselves from the community and those who are still acting careless in town. That would be more productive than shaming people over something in the past. Because get this- If I had the same intel now as I had then….I’d do it again. Maybe I’d skip the bagel shop. Hmm…probly not!
Thank you Pos person for letting us know the background story. That is kind and responsible. Hope you & yours all feel better soon.
Stop with the hate!!!! Which of you haters walks on water? NOT ONE OF YOU. Thank you to this woman for acting responsibly after the fact, and thank you for sharing. May you and yours have a speedy recovery.
We can think it was bad judgement (I do) but when they are all better they will breathe a sigh of relief and think wow we did it all, we got to the wedding. The familial pull will make people do risky things sometime. But really, should have known better.
(PS: with all your “hate!” shouts Teresa you become the hater, funny how that works.)
Well arent you just a smug instigator? Thank you for your thoughts however a question and an answer doesn’t translate as hate shouts.
I don’t have a car and can’t afford a taxi. After the hobo coughed on me today I don’t really give a shit if I have to take the bus to the coroner’s office. Fuck [edit:Seaman] and fuck this county for not making the Hobos shelter in place.