Were You on These Flights? Public Health Seeks Traveler Info

flight travel coronavirusPress release from the County of Humboldt:

As COVID-19 infections increase across the globe and within our own state, travel is increasing the risk of exposure for individuals in our community. High-risk travel is no longer limited to international destinations. Any travel to areas with community level transmission presents opportunities for exposure to COVID-19. All travelers to these areas, whether international or domestic, should be self-quarantining, which means staying at home except for accessing needed health care, for 14 days after return. If you have traveled and become ill with fever, cough or shortness of breath or other symptoms of concern while quarantining at home, you should contact your health care provider for guidance.

Three recent flights may represent a possible exposure for COVID-19 infection, either because an individual on board has become a confirmed case or because a close contact whose test is pending was on board.

3/16/20: United Flight #5827 from Los Angeles Airport to Arcata

3/18/20: Delta Flight #4124 from Seattle to Medford, OR

3/18/20: United Flight #5555 from San Francisco Airport to Arcata

The overall exposure risk for most individuals on these flights is low, but it is important that they quarantine at home for 14 days after their flight and contact Public Health or their health care provider if they become ill with fever, cough or shortness of breath or other symptoms of concern.

This act of quarantining is critically important during this period, as we have not yet seen clear community transmission. It will help to slow transmission within our community, reduce risk for our most vulnerable residents and will lessen the impact on our health care system. This tool, in addition to sheltering in place, helps everyone to remain healthy.

Public Health strongly recommends that individuals cancel non-essential travel. This travel not only increases your own risk of acquiring a COVID-19 infection, it increases the risk within our community.

If you are not ill, follow the most recent guidance to decrease transmission and stay at home. If you were a passenger on these flights and are ill, please contact your health care provider for guidance or the Community Information Line by calling 707-441-5000 or emailing [email protected]. For general questions about travel and quarantine, please call 707-441-5000.

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Charles
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Charles
4 years ago

and if youre homeless and were on one of those flights?

Wow
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Wow
4 years ago
Reply to  Charles

instead of worrying about the homeless start worrying about the 90 HSU students that were just bussed back up here from S.F. and L.A. to infect us all.

Obliviously
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Obliviously
4 years ago

Thanks Kym. Glad they are finally starting to release a little relevant info.

at a loss
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at a loss
4 years ago

How does this affect the people that flew out on the outbound flight – it was the same plane. I work in Healthcare in the Bay area.

RedWouldForrest
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RedWouldForrest
4 years ago
Reply to  at a loss

Wow, what a situation to be in.

Get tested before you return to work, and isolation protocols are probably in order until results come in. I’m NOT a health practitioner by any definition, just a concerned citizen offering an opinion.

Stay safe, we will need all the healthcare workers like you that we can get for a while, I’m afraid. Sending much love your way…

And THANK YOU for your INCREDIBLY responsible reaction to the situation – you have single-handedly given me back some faith in the current state of our healthcare system. I truly hope your example is heeded by your peers. Thanks to you, I now believe it will be.

I hope you find better answers soon.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
4 years ago
Reply to  at a loss

……..uhhhh…….badly?

[edit]
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[edit]
4 years ago
Reply to  at a loss

Do you feel like you are dying in a pandemic fashion? No? Good, then just keep asking stupid questions and feeding that fear

at a loss
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at a loss
4 years ago
Reply to  [edit]

It is a valid question. The turnaround on these flights is pretty quick, didn’t see a cleaning crew, air is recirculated, the virus can live in surfaces for several hours. So while you answer is rather cavalier. I am on the frontlines dealing with this pandemic – it may not affect me because of everything else I get exposed to but my family might not be so lucky.
The incubation period to show signs can go up to 10 days where one is asymptomatic and how many could get exposed in that period of time innocently.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  at a loss

At a loss, don’t think others aren’t concerned and concerned for you.

These comment sections can be rife with disruptors and ill-mannered deviants.

You should assume that there are far more cases than diagnosed officially.

Virus lives 3 days on stainless steel and plastic.

24 hours on papers/cardboard

8 hours on pavement.

Lynn H
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Lynn H
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Hey Brian, I think I’m the one who initially mentioned the 8 hours on pavement. I found that from a source that said an Italian study said that. But… I didn’t see the study & the more I think about it, the more I wonder. Maybe 8 hours on a hot day, but IDK. Pavement isn’t that porous. It is oil based and the shell around the virus is lipid (oil based), so I suppose it could leach the shell, but I think it may survive longer than that on cool days. IDK.

Personally I’m spraying the heck out of my shoes when I get home.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Lynn H

I heard it from the Italians, they now leave their shoes outside.

I’m glad your on it.

And most pictures from S. Korea show the officials disinfecting the ground with sprayers.

Lynn H
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Lynn H
4 years ago
Reply to  at a loss

At a loss- don’t pay any attention to the jerks and trolls. You have a valid concern. Be well.

at a loss
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at a loss
4 years ago
Reply to  at a loss

I have contacted the number listed here and told them my concerns regarding the flight from acv to sfo. I have also contacted my employer in Bay Area.
I am like all healthcare workers concerned about what lies ahead and want to do my part in preventing the spread of COVID-19.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
4 years ago
Reply to  [edit]

Nice name, how is this left up??

local skeptic thru observation
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local skeptic thru observation
4 years ago

This is very, very bad news.

Stay HOME, folks – I want to be able to socialize with my family, friends & neighbors when this is all over – without “exceptions”.

Stay well, stay safe, stay sane.

Stay home.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
4 years ago

With four active cases, plus those exposed on the planes, plus associates…… the probability of community transmission keeps on growing.

upyours
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upyours
4 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

Better just self quarantine for 14 days or until you die of starvation, that should help bring the numbers down. Some of us have to work for a living, can’t afford to take 2 weeks off. Drink some tea eat some oranges and quit being a pussy!

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
4 years ago
Reply to  upyours

Go lick some doorknobs like a real man!

Dave Kirby
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Dave Kirby
4 years ago
Reply to  upyours

Any advice for us [edit] whose employers have shut their workplace?

Stay the fuck home
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Stay the fuck home
4 years ago
Reply to  upyours

Sounds like you should volunteer for emergency room intake. Since you’re not a [edit] and have nothing to worry about. What a hero.

Wow
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Wow
4 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

How aboit instead of worrying about the homeless start worrying bmabout the 90 HSU students that were just bussed back up here from S.F. and L.A. to infect us all.

Duh.
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Duh.
4 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

Yeah and HSU bhssing a bunch of educated idiots up here from Ca hotspots is a nice touch

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
4 years ago
Reply to  Duh.

Jesus Christ, people are driving in on 101 and every other artery every single day yet some of you are having fits over a busload of students.
I’m beginning to think that you can’t handle the stress and are losing it. It’s like someone takes a cattle prod to you with every article. Sounds like some are ready to have a psychic break.
Why don’t you spare the rest of us your hysterics …

laughinlark
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laughinlark
4 years ago

It looks like a right to privacy is a double edged sword.

Billy Casomorphin
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Billy Casomorphin
4 years ago
Reply to  laughinlark

Here is something you can do now:

Living will. Advance directive. Power of Attorney. DNR.

Excellent advice from Dr Harold Cross MD:

COVid-19 PNEUMONIA and RESPIRATORS
The pandemic of COVid-19 and the concern about supply of respirators is causing fear and unrealistic concern. Let me explain. Those who develop severe difficulty breathing due to damage to their lungs in the special case of this kind of pneumonia and put on a respirator(ventilator) have an endotracheal tube inserted through the mouth and into the trachea. They will likely be on a respirator for 7-20 days . With this tube in place – one cannot talk, take fluids or food. After 7 days, it is usually best to perform a tracheotomy, to preserve the vocal cords. Under those conditions, some fluids and food might be taken in, depending on the severity of overall condition. The care required in this condition – bedridden, turned to prone position daily for a few hours, IV fluid and parenteral nutrition (food), requires skilled providers & special equipment to monitor the patient. The outcome even with this care may not be successful.

One needs to make their own personal decision about end of life care, quality of life while they have that ability. One’s DNR (do not resuscitate) instructions need to be very specific. This is especially relevant for those over age 60, those with serious heart, lung and kidney conditions, and those immunocompromised. It is your decision, not the physician’s to make. Each person needs to make their desires known to their immediate family, their power of attorney (POA) and to the physician treating them. Things happen very quickly in the emergency situation, and once the person is on a respirator, deciding to stop is a difficult one.
My experience as a Christian physician, Emergency Medicine 20 years, and family practice 30 years and as a parent who has witnessed two of our sons (ages 61 and 69) die with lethal conditions that severely affected their breathing led me to urge you to be prepared. Both opted for comfort, receiving liquid morphine and anti-anxiety meds – given by family members and hospice staff. They were clear in their minds until about 24 hours before their deaths. These meds were used to control their feelings of breathlessness, suffocation.

The crisis of ‘supply of respirators’ while real, is only a part of the problem. Given appropriate information on what being on a respirator entails, and the difficulty of supplying the care needed for patients on total ventilation – some, if not many people will opt out of being placed on a respirator. In that event, the ‘demand’ for respirators would be lessened.

The bottom line for each person – is quality of life OR duration. Sometimes ‘hanging on’ for the last breath, is agonizing for both patient and family. We need to make up our mind in advance about our desires, so that loved ones can honor them. Gwanda’s book: Being Mortal may help in your decision making on issues of quality of life, it is rich in real life examples.

Harold Cross MD HHI, SC 29928 03/23/2020 Filename: COV-19. Respirators.ab

Be safe, be well, be good! Abandon your irrational fears, help others.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago

That’s horrible. Absolutely horrible.

Mary aka The Woman In The Green Shirt
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Mary aka The Woman In The Green Shirt
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I’m glad that somebody is finally thinking about hospice care. Yes, we need to keep the workers safe, but people who are done with life deserve dignity and pain relief. I can legally treat my dog better than we treat our octogenarians and nonogenarians.

Nobody wants to see the suicide rate go up, but in light of the current crisis and lack of availability of medical care, maybe we can respect some brave and difficult decisions from the chronically ill instead of pathologizing, demeaning, and dismissing them as “mental healths”?

Yes, we all need to get our DNRs and Advance Directives into order. It will save lives, and those lives that can’t be saved still deserve hospice care.

Our elders deserve at least as much as our pets.

Rose
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Rose
4 years ago

So clear
Thankyou
So few want to think about how they will spend their last days on earth
To be intubated is the most excruciating thing to happen.
To suffocate is also..
To die a peaceful death requires some real advanced planning.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago

Might want to rethink the 14 day quarantine with China now revealing that the virus lingers for up to 37 DAYS. Also, New York state just reported that 55% of their deaths were in the age 18-49 year range. And if you crunch the global numbers of 380,000+ persons who have tested positive for corona virus 16,000 have died; 73,000 have recovered, but there is dark reality nobody wants to talk about– the 270,000 infected persons are still languishing with the effects of compromised lung damage. Many have spent months on a ventilator sedated being fed through a feeding tube not knowing if they ever will fully recover. This is how the economy and health care system will collapse.

b.
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b.
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I have found no references that support your New York 55% statistic. That number resembles the percentage of hospitalized patients but not the number of deaths. Do you have a link or a source?

Lynn H
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Lynn H
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

“China now revealing that the virus lingers for up to 37 DAYS”

I doubt that very much. In fact I doubt all of your “facts” very much.

Duh.
Guest
Duh.
4 years ago

Yeah and HSU bhssing a bunch of educated idiots up here from Ca hotspots is a nice touch

geoffrey davis
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geoffrey davis
4 years ago

This page is turning into a cess pool of misinformation hatred and mudslinging… why cant all you ”cowardly Educated idiots” , fools ,closet epidemiologists and tough tough asses, use your real name? Thanks to those who who use your real name, And those who post REAL info not made up drug and alcohol induced superstitious rants.

Dave Kirby
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Dave Kirby
4 years ago
Reply to  geoffrey davis

I agree. The dark side of blog comments. Very little helpful information. Its the result of letting people hide their identities and spout crap that they certainly wouldn’t want to be identified with. This has become more obvious around this crisis. Hopefully anybody who reads this tripe doesn’t take it seriously.

Why u erase my comment Kym Kemp?
Guest
Why u erase my comment Kym Kemp?
4 years ago

Close the County Borders to all non-residents, Hawaii just did it, they require a 14 day quarantine foe all visitors, why doesnt Humboldt and Mendocino do the same thing? 14 day quarantine for all visitors coming into the county. Why is it we must isolate ourselves. Close the roads at the county borders and protect us all. It is the only right thing to do! Why do you keep erasing this comment kym? Its rude!

Karen fogdrip
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Karen fogdrip
4 years ago

Thanks to the many calm folks who continue to share substantive info in spite of the usual ration of people who need to rant (maybe better here than kicking their dog.)
I agree, the 55% rate in New York of young people is of confirmed cases, not deaths.(nyt)
I looked for the 37 day persistence on surfaces figure reported by Guest and didn’t find it.
The more independent websites sometimes give early warning, but they are also fertile ground for clickbait and disruption posts. So, checking sources.
Thanks for the Italy tip about no shoes in the house, that makes sense.

Karen
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Karen
4 years ago

Followup on longer virus shedding time: Technical report, very thick but informative, on ecdc.europa.eu.
a few cases of fecal virus shedding in convalescent children for 20 days. Watch those disposable diapers.
The number 37 as days for persistence on surfaces looks like a misreading of the 37 degrees centigrade at which a China study reports virus persisting for one day. Lots of time for deeper googling, folks.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
4 years ago
Reply to  Karen

Nipped it in the bud!