[UPDATE 5:51 p.m.] Washington Post Reports New Coronavirus Case in Northern California of ‘Unknown Origin’; DHHS Says Not Humboldt County
Coronavirus [Image from Center for Disease Control]
Humboldt County’s Department of Health and Human Services released information just before 5:30 p.m. stating, “In response to numerous inquiries about a possible community transmission of COVID-19 in California, we want to state clearly that there are no new cases in Humboldt County. Repeat, there are no new positive cases of COVID-19 in Humboldt County.”
The Washington Post said that the fact that this new case in Northern California is from someone who did not get it from traveling or from contact with a confirmed case may be “a sign the virus may be spreading in a local area.”
The CDC has not yet released where the new case was located.
UPDATE 5:51 p.m.: KQED Science tweeted, The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention “confirms a person in Solano County is infected w/ the novel #coronavirus.”
The source of the patient’s exposure is unknown – it is still unclear if the patient was exposed to a traveler who was infected.
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Oh no! Not good!
Stock up and stay home!
🕯🌳You didn’t think it wasn’t going to show up here? There’s more people that sneak a trip to almost any of the infected countries from here all the time. Landlord’s do it all the time.🕯🇺🇸
I saw an article about an infected person in Japan who tested positive for this virus, recovered and tested negative then was readmitted to the hospital, testing positive again. Now all tests have possible false negatives and/or positves so that’s what it could be but the idea that a natural immune response, which initially reduced the viral load to untestable levels, did not really clear the virus or provide long lasting immunity is scary as China has reported such cases too. About 14% of cases have a reoccurance.
The CDC would not allow a test requested by doctors. Trump is so obviously trying to cover up a health crisis to prevent a financial crisis .This is exactly the same as China tried in beginning of wuhan outbreak! eventually xi gave in and shut their economy down .I actually would feel safer in China as they are implementing “war time measures “while trump says “it is what it is “.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-japan/japanese-woman-confirmed-as-coronavirus-case-for-second-time-weeks-after-initial-recovery-idUSKCN20L0BI
“Health Minister Katsunobu Kato said in parliament the government would need to keep tabs on the condition of those previously discharged, as health experts analyzed the implications of testing positive for the virus after an initial recovery.
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“Once you have the infection, it could remain dormant and with minimal symptoms, and then you can get an exacerbation if it finds its way into the lungs,” said Philip Tierno Jr., Professor of Microbiology and Pathology at NYU School of Medicine.
Tierno said much remains unknown about the virus. “I’m not certain that this is not bi-phasic, like anthrax,” he said, meaning the disease appears to go away before recurring.”
Bi,
thanks.
Nonsense. Trump had nothing to do with the fact that the CDC sent the test only if “China or close contact with a person confirmed to have the COVID-19 illness and symptoms of respiratory illness such as cough or shortness of breath.” Until this patient in Davis, those were the only people who caught the virus. Not everyone with a similar lung issue is a reasonable subject and why this patient made headlines as a first. In actuality the patient inevitably did have such contact but was unaware of it.
The test are new, developed a glitch and there simply were not enough tests available, which is a world wide problem. Every country has that screeningvas a guideline.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/testing.html
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/tool-virus-requests.html
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/02/glitch-delays-covid-19-tests-states-first-evacuees-cleared
The fecal material is about to come into contact with the whirling blades
Now is the time to shut all overseas flights down It’s going to be hard enough to control without new batches coming in
Newly diagnosed coronavirus patient being treated at UC Davis Medical Center
https://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/newly-diagnosed-coronavirus-patient-being-treated-at-uc-davis-medical-center/
Boost your systems and take natural antivirals like Elderberry. Stock up on food supplies just in case we get quarantined tho thats highly highly unlikely.
Its good to stock up, a good size earthquakes not so unlikely.
Lots of people whove gotten the virus have survived just fine. What doctors have been calling influenza all season could have been this, the symptoms seem to be just like any other flu.
All except the flu has a 0.1 fatalaty rate (1/1000), and this new virus has 2.0 kill rate (2/100).
Thats a significant difference. Staying home, washing hands and staying rhe hell out of group gatherings are the best defenses i can think of.
Isn’t it quite possible that the percentage goes down quite a bit when you consider how many might not be diagnosed because of minimal if not non-existent symptoms?
[…] But the case in Solano involves someone who did not travel and is not immediately connected to anyone who did. It’s of some concern. […]
Kym, is there any information on what steps the County is taking to prepare for a pandemic?
🕯🌳Good question?👍🏽🖖👁
Sorry Cap,
This is not the time to be thinking about the county’s preparations, nor the country’s for that matter. Don’t wait for the county or hospitals to take care. They could easily get overwhelmed as we have already seen elsewhere.
This is time for community and community action. This is a time to be proactive. Panic and fear are absolutely our worst enemies. Waaaaaay worse than this virus.
We are our own greatest asset right now.
This thing is coming.
Here is a link to some information on what you CAN do against this or any pandemic. One of the ladies who wrote this guide lives in Laytonville. Great lady.
Get a copy, get educated and prepared. Reach out to your neighbors and community. Organize and think about who around you may need help. Amazing people and resources are all around all of us. In all of us.
Amazon link:
https://www.amazon.com/Pandemic-Flu-Home-Care-Illustrated/dp/149041715X/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Pandemic+Flu+home+care+book&qid=1582740193&s=home-garden&sr=1-1-catcorr
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This is an opportunity in the form of a disease. It’s only a matter of perspective.
Please share this Kym and thanks for what you do and how you do it.
NXE
Thanks for that. I’ll read this after work.
Ordering this NOW. Thank you.
Stay home, get a flu shot ASAP, if sick, ride it out and stay home from work. Avoid hospitals at all costs. Doctors can’t cure this. Nurse Practitioners can’t do much at all, ever, and NP’s are about all you have, any more… Stay away from health care facilities if possible!
Remember:
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/11/effects-and-costs-of-poor-quality-healthcare/
Poor quality healthcare, is 2X worse than no healthcare at all. Keep this in mind before using SoHum Health!
In 2016 I actually caught the flu from a coworker who refused to take sick leave. I thought it would be preferable to die rather than be as sick as I got. Actual immunity from exposure is as good as a vaccine, if you live, that is.
The flu kills millions. COVID-19 has killed 3000, mostly in dirty third world countries like Iran and China. Relax! Remember, once you are born you have 100% chance of mortality. A fatal outcome from a respiratory virus? Seems unlikely, to me…
“According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), it has been estimated that in the absence of any control measures such as vaccination and drugs, a “medium-level” influenza pandemic in the United States could kill 89,000 to 207,000 people, affect from 15 to 35 percent of the U.S. population, and generate associated costs ranging from $71 billion to $167 billion. Another Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimate suggested that, in the United States alone, up to 200 million people will be infected, 50 million people will require outpatient care, two million people will be hospitalized, and between 100,000 and 500,000 persons will die. These numbers are significantly higher than the estimates used by the Deparment of Homeland Security. The HHS notes that the death rate associated with the 1918 influenza applied to the current population would produce 1.9 million deaths in the United States and 180 million to 360 million deaths globally. It is most noteworthy that the “Low” scenario presented by HHS corresponds to the “High” scenario presented by DHS.”
There is some work that suggests the coronavirus has a similar morbidity rate to the 1918 influenza event.
It should also be noted that the departments of HEALTH SERVICES, whichever branch you choose to follow, don’t use a crystal ball to forecast the flu. They get caught-up in the numbers game. The possibility is a lifetime away from actual.
How many billions of tax-dollars are poised to be wasted? Money don’t cure the flu.
This all sounds reasonable to me.
While it’s true that the U.S. gov’t will probably offer the least coordinated and effective plan for control of any developed country, i don’t see what the big deal is with a disease with a 3% mortality rate. The important question is, are you one of the 97%, or one of the 3%?
If you think you are one of the 3% who might be killed by a virus, you should already be in some sort of quarantine for anything else that’s going around, and should have a tight will written up. Or (if you are an infant), those who love you should do their best to protect you. Or maybe, too, we should remember that death always happens, to every one of us, and although that rots, it’s probably better than having every human life that ever lived still physically roaming the groaning planet. In other words, why do people act like a natural death is such a horrible fate? When it’s time to go, it’s time; there’s nothing evil or wrong about it.
I guess it’s just our nature to protest, and not to go down without a lot of screaming and crying and blaming.
Still, i think for most people the worst thing about coming down with Covid-19 would be being treated like a pariah for months. Your name would be mud no matter how blameless you were in contracting it!
I wonder where that woman who was on the “Princess” (the Humboldt woman who was sending her reports from on-board quarantine) is now. I think i read that the U.S. citizens who had been aboard were sent to a Southern Cal. quarantine center for a couple of weeks before being allowed to go home.
I have asthma, and I get bronchitis every time I get sick. I’m also a mother with a full time job. So because I have preexisting health conditions I should just what, quit my job, pull my kids from school and hide in a hole! Ya, Um, No!
Um, yeah, if Corona virus shows up in your school or your friends or places you frequent, i would absolutely suggest that you do those things. Common sense. Better than being one of the 3%!
Hayzues christo, when did you become such a racist?
Jesus was from a dirty 3rd world country and born out in the barn at that.
Misapplying the term “racist” to what is likely an uninformed poorly worded assumption is wrong in itself. The third world attribution is pretty shaky these days anyway but does at least have some history behind its thinking. Slapping that word racist on everything is pretty much an equally biased assumption. And even more mean because it’s directed at an individual in person.
Iran has a pretty good health system in fact, although most people don’t know that because of their government’s xenophobia. I don’t know about China’s. But I think the original reference was meant to mean countries with a poorly developed public health system, not one meaning race at all.
Dirty third-world country = a country where sanitation is poor and population is very dense. Don’t care about ethnicity at all, as it’s not your fault where you are from.
I’m from Yuba City. Probably shouldn’t say that out loud…
Donald Trump is an incompetent idiot who lies about everything. He will still beat Bernie.
Ouch!
The advice not to seek medical care is really bad advice. With the corona virus, according to official numbers coming from the Chinese government 1 in 8 require hospitalization. Outside Wuhan where there is adequate healthcare facilities the death rate is 0.7%, inside Wuhan where they don’t have the facilities to cope the death rate is 4%. That means the death rate for people REQUIRING HOSPITALIZATION jumps from 5.6% to 32% if they don’t get adequate care.
Since Feb. 2nd, over 8,400 people arrived in California following travel from China. All were encouraged to “self-quarantine” for 14 days to allow for the incubation time of the virus to pass as the sole way of managing it. How many of them do you imagine blew it off? How many went out even though they might’ve felt a little crappy because it was inconvenient for them to stay home for 2 weeks? How hard would it be for you to stay home for 2 weeks in isolation?
As the CDC has said, the spread is now inevitable. It’s not a matter of if, but when. Humboldt county hospitals are already overflowing, because of inadequate space and the way the state funds care for the low income and homeless, even before the influx of patients that will no doubt come once this gets hold so the chance of getting adequate care if you happen to be one of the folks who gets hit hard by the coronavirus is low. Very low.
I believe the correct expression applicable here is “We are f****d.” But no sense panicking, that won’t help either. Maybe the preppers are right.
It is likely that most people who get is disease will be taking care of themselves at home. The days of the government taking people off to isolate them or slapping “quarantined” signs on homes are long gone.
When my mother’s father got the “Spanish” flu, he was taken to a hospital ward by the City of San Francisco to be cared for with many other patients. None of the rest of the family became ill and he recovered to return home. But can you conceive of that happening now?
Good post Cy. Nice to see some logic and fact in the conversation.
Prepping was a way of life for everybody not long ago, before we became dependent and complicit and put our full faith and trust in the dino juice powered global supply chain…a very complicated long chain with lots of weak links.
Should you be prepared to take care of yourself should this chain break down?
Probably. Systems fail. You are your own plan B. Read history. Learn.
Just a rumor…… One of the people infected with COVID19 here in Humboldt visited family and friends before they had confirmed to be infected. Now all of those people are out and about our community going to work and school. We’ll see where this goes.
My generation has already survived the swine flu, bird flu, and Justin Bieber. Now the corona virus? So many tragedies for such a young generation.
Thank you for a funny moment in this serious conversation.
Case is in Solano county. Detected by a gravely ill patient already in ICU at UC Davis Med Center in Sacramento. Since the patient did not meet the criteria of being a traveler or a traveler’s close contact testing was delayed by days. Once the test was done, on Sunday Feb.23rd, due to test kit shortages, the results didn’t come in for three days, until this Wednesday afternoon. Tracing contacts just went from checkers to three dimensional chess.
This article explains the delay..
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/02/27/809944423/diagnosis-of-coronavirus-patient-in-california-was-delayed-for-days
Trump says it will be fine and that we are the best prepared country in the world so don’t worry be happy.
Hmm… Even Democrats can’t believe their own mud slinging on that front. “The Donald Trump administration declared the coronavirus outbreak to be a public health emergency in the United States on Friday, setting quarantines of Americans who have recently been to certain parts of China.” https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/31/coronavirus-donald-trump-declares-public-health-emergency/4625299002/
As usual knee jerk anti Trumpets’ hyperbole about a remark about a specific situation – one person quarantined in Seattle- is repeated out of context to give a false impression. No one declared a national emergency if they dismiss the seriousness of the issue. Of course if he whizzed on and on like his critics, he then would be accused of creating panic for some malevolent reason.
Did you hear his address yesterday? The “administration” is not on the same page with Trump. The CDC and NIH are far more concerned with this than Trump appears to be.
He has daily, sometimes more, briefings. That is not unconcern. And no, I try my best never to listen to Trump’s speeches or tweets or even what NBC has to say about him. It’s all over the top verbage. It’s better to dig a little deeper to look at what actually happens rather than get caught up in the hysteria.
I remember being reassured when Obama gave a speech. Then I noticed that there was an internal inconsistency. So I got a transcript. And realized that what he said was going to happen was not at all what he planned to make happen. Having been so enlightened, I did the same for other politicians and discovered that, no matter how reasoned they sounded, they all avoided the truth. In preference they implied, they preferred to make it sound appealing. They don’t all lie all the time although all lie sometimes, but they hid their intentions lest we all get upset with it.
Trump is more crude, self aggrandizing and simplistic in his announcements but no worse or better in conveying his intentions than his processors. However his critics, and they include almost everyone, start whizzing around like it matters when they were comfortable as long as the prevarications were more politely phrased.
well, while he is less disingenuous, that is probably due to a deepening dementia. Meanwhile, he certainly is more dangerous in his inclinations. but I 100% agree it is far less useful to listen to words, while action and outcome are far more informative.
Yeh, but then the Scientist came on and basically said he’s full of shit, We’re all gonna die!
Geez, who to believe?!
Many people will be exposed, develop no symptoms, and acquire immunity. Some people will get sick, to various levels of seriousness. Some will expire from the infection.
Viruses continuously mutate, and can become less infectious.
Goes to show, it’s always something…
Totally correct.
If you’re alive today, you’ve already been exposed to some sort of flu. Flu changes faster than does human resistance.
If you live by the vaccine then you will probably die from the lack of vaccine. Watch how the control of the “testing” will evolve to be blamed for extending the duration.
We’ve had a fair run of less turbulent times since the 1980s. We’re unused to real in-your-face troubles in the US from then through the present with the exception of 9/11. When I think of the generation that went through WWI, the Spanish Flu, the Great Depression and into WWII, it’s hard to think that relative peace is normal after all.
Great observation. Especially our young people don’t know real trouble. My mom was born in 1929 and saved every penny. She thought of herself as poor even though she had a good pension and good savings, enough to pay for her care now at age 90.
Sounds like The Walking Dead TV show xcept fer 1 thing: IT’S REAL!
Its really hard to know how this outbreak is really shaping up. China isn’t known for its transparency and Trump has a sketchy relationship with the truth. It appears that the majority of deaths are patients over 70 with pre existing conditions. 80% of the cases so far experience relatively mild symptoms. Oddly Corona does not appear to be as severe among children which may be an immunity issue. My mother lost an older sister to the Spanish Influenza. Her mother who survived contracting the illness told me that so many children were dying on the east coast that they were cutting down adult caskets because they ran out of children’s coffins.
When the Spanish invaded the Maya homeland, the death toll was above 90%, largely from disease. Imagine how the world would be if those intelligent people could still be amongst us.
Bad choice of example as Mayans had already had two major population contractions before the Europeans ever arrived. It’s better to just say that civilization is a precarious process. Especially since every human being alive now, except for maybe the aboriginal Australians, are the product of repeated invasions, retreats and disasters. Best keep on your toes because someone always thinks your grass is greener than theirs.
Under the age of 39 it’s only twice as deadly as the flu that I have right now. Under the age of 10 it isn’t deadly at all apparently. Just remember that the government can’t stop the flu is going to change the temperature of the planet. Or are not doing that now since this new thing this week is supposed to kill us?
Because Trump knows panic in the global economy and supply chains can be as deadly as a virus.
Globalism was a mistake.
Global peace, love, and friendship good. Global interdependence, not good. Localism has many advantages in these situations.
Remember that with a asymptomatic and contagious stage of up to a month…all statistics are a month behind reality on the ground.
Globism was a mistake? We’ve had a FAR much better record of mitigating pandemics in the Atomic era than we’ve had in the past. Good luck un-inventing airplanes, BTW.
Thunberg’s trying. But Who Cares’ comment was about putting all your eggs in one basket, not immigration. In truth, it is always a risk to source every product in one place. Along comes the locusts,drought, war or pestilence and suddenly the products needed to survive are no longer available and you’ve lost the capacity to make them for yourself. That should be an obvious concern for every place who has outsourced everything based only on profit.
Globalism was a mistake except that it has save many more lives than it has cost and will continue to do so through shared resources, including brain power; billions of brains are better than one.
N95 masks are almost impossible to find, even for medical personnel.
Everyone is on back order.
Price gouging at amazon on the few that are left.
Gavin just said testing is inadequate.
Who was responsible for California being prepared for any type of emergency? Including Earthquakes?
What is Pelosi doing to prepare SF, besides blaming Trump…a real question not a cheap shot. Shouldn’t the governor be responsible for our state? Seems Jerry Brown fell far short and Gavin is following in his footsteps.
Why isn’t there one central hospital to take care of this instead of moving the infected all over the state?
We have Dams ready to collapse.
The PG&E fiasco
No earthquake preparations.
None of which is Trumps fault so projecting on to him won’t help us.
Where’s Dee Arnold when you need him?
More on the delay…
https://health.ucdavis.edu/health-news/contenthub/novel-coronavirus-patient-and-precautions-at-uc-davis-medical-center/2020/02
In an effort to maintain peace and safety, the bad news will be announced in a slow steady trickle. So as not to rattle the people with too much at once. Exponential growth is all but inevitable.
No point in panicking though, just do the best you can and take care of you and yours. These things happen some times.
Planning for potential coronavirus cases intensifies, Sonoma County health official says
The local strategy to combat coronavirus will intensify since the virus may be spreading in Northern California, Sonoma County’s health officer said Thursday.
“Things definitely shift at this point,” said Dr. Celeste Philip, the county’s health officer.
more
https://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/10759322-181/planning-to-be-ready-for?trk_msg=PJBP55647SG4P9T9MDRIFVAF7S&trk_contact=9BJIFDA52N6DI17FT70JT5ABG8&trk_sid=LQ0CAUVP256V4MCH8HG8SUQ9P4&utm_email=C4DCF5A3246124E0748DA4E38A&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fwww.pressdemocrat.com%2fnews%2f10759322-181%2fplanning-to-be-ready-for&utm_campaign=pd_breaking
8,400 people being monitored just in California for virus.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/485000-california-monitoring-8400-people-for-coronavirus-as-33-test-positive
I love how the advice to combat the spread is to wash your hands and stay home if your sick. Really? The hell you say? That only works if you don’t have kids. You wash your hands like a freak and they’re over there licking shopping cart handles and door knobs.
They know perfectly well that parents of pre-teen children will happily embrace the sweet release of the grave. /s (but not really)
33 confirmed Cali cases now
This is a story on the reduction of carbon emissions due to the Covid-19 quarantine in China. It does make it clear that our acquisitiveness of things creates a lot of problems that are not remedied by laws in America. Shipping off manufacturing means that the US has very little control no matter how much nagging goes on here.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/covid-19-coronavirus-climate-carbon-emissions-china-economy-1.5477466