[UPDATE 5:48 p.m.] Male Juvenile Identified as Posting White Supremacist Recruiting Fliers in Eureka

White supremacist propaganda flyer

White supremacist propaganda flyer posted in Eureka’s Henderson Center. [Photo from EPD]

The North Coast Journal’s Thaddeus Greenson broke the news that the EPD has identified the person responsible for posting a white supremacist flyer. According to the article,

The Eureka Police Department has identified a male juvenile believed to be responsible for posting white supremacist recruiting fliers around town, interviewed him and determined there doesn’t appear to be an immediate physical threat to the community.

“He was identified with the assistance of family,” EPD Chief Steve Watson said. “In fact, a family member brought him in here very concerned. The family is very upset to find out what happened and to find out their son was involved in this. They did the right thing, which we very much appreciate.”

To read the rest of the piece, please go to Thaddeus Greenson’s article here.

UPDATE 5:48 p.m.: EPD released more information about the situation,

With the assistance of family, the Eureka Police Department has identified the individual responsible for the hate-based propaganda fliers recently found in our community. This person is a multiracial, 16-year old male who relocated to Humboldt County recently. Due to his age, EPD cannot publicly release the youth’s identity. No arrests have been made or criminal charges filed at this time. However, this is an open investigation and this status may change. EPD regularly works with our local, state and federal law enforcement partners and has been in contact with the FBI during this investigation.

The youth was interviewed this morning by EPD detectives and a Special Agent with the FBI’s local satellite office. A second interview was also later conducted with an 18-year-old friend of the teen who was here visiting from out-of-state.

The youth admitted to placing the propaganda flyer in Henderson Center and to his personal involvement with the group (via the internet and social media) which he described as originally being more “anti-establishment” in nature. (He also claimed to not agree with all of the group’s current ideology including those advocating violence.)

Based on information obtained during the interviews, investigators currently believe the youth likely acted alone (which he maintained) and is not part of a larger like-minded, connected hate group currently residing and operating inside Humboldt County. There is no indication this individual or group poses a major or growing threat (of violent action) in this area at this time. However, situational awareness and reporting of suspicious activity is always advised and encouraged. The effort to recruit youth to their cause remains deeply concerning. EPD and our law enforcement partners will continue to monitor the group and to follow-up with the youth and his family.

NEWS RELEASE
EPD encourages parents to take this opportunity to speak with their children about hate and bias. Parents should also closely monitor where and with whom their children are spending their time, not only in person, but also virtually online.

Because this individual is a minor, EPD is working with the family to refer him to appropriate community services and anti-bias intervention resources.

White supremacists, hate crime, or anyone targeting others because of race, color, religion or national origin will not be tolerated by law enforcement in our community. Actions that constitute a crime generally include:

 Use of force or the threat of force or conspiracy to use or threaten force
 Targeting of the victim because of race, color, religion or national origin
 Additional motive to injure, intimidate or interfere with some specific federally protected activity or right

It is law enforcement’s duty to ensure the safety of our communities and nation while upholding the civil rights guaranteed by the Constitution (including the exercise of the First Amendment) to every citizen. We remain committed to protecting those rights for all Americans while also taking a stand against racism and hate.

Generally, individuals who commit criminal activity in furtherance of their extremist ideology are prosecuted, rather than groups. Membership in an organization that promotes extremist ideology or racism alone (though deeply disturbing) is not illegal nor is it a sufficient basis for prosecution.

EPD wants to thank the community for alerting authorities to this inflammatory language being posted in our community. We encourage people to report potential hate crimes and/or threatening behavior to law enforcement. The community is our most vital resource to combat hate. While those who promote hateful sentiment in our community have free speech rights, the community also has the First Amendment right to say that hate is not welcome here.

Earlier Chapter: Eureka Police Request Assistance From FBI After White Supremacist Flyer With Depiction of Rifle Appeared in Henderson Center Yesterday

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Morons
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Morons
4 years ago

“I didn’t shot a nazi in the dick just for this little shit to go goose stepping around my house.” – this kids grandpa probably

Sheesh
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4 years ago
Reply to  Morons

We absorbed many nazis right into our government agencies after the war.

And the flyer is actually saying that white folks are being hated on.
He could have left the machine gun off the flyer.

It does seem like being white is under attack.

Huh
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Huh
4 years ago
Reply to  Sheesh

I love it when [edit] out themselves by saying things like “It does seem like being white is under attack”

Sparkle Mahn
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Sparkle Mahn
4 years ago
Reply to  Huh

Bingo!

Yeah, sure
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Yeah, sure
4 years ago
Reply to  Huh

They just can’t help themselves. The pretzel twisting would be entertaining if it wasn’t an indication of a sick mind.
I do like pretzels with jack cheese, try it sometime.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Yeah, sure

Morons, Yeah sure, sparklemsn, and Huh.

THANK YOU.

Dont let racism become normal.

Every comment counts.

rollin
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rollin
4 years ago
Reply to  Huh

I love it when [edit] out themselves by calling everyone a racist. Right now Joe Biden’s biggest problem is that he’s white. There’s a TV show called “That White People Shit”. There’s whole movies ripping on white people. Instead of White Men Can’t Jump, how bout Black People Can’t Swim. Howdya think that would go over? It wouldn’t. How about Evergreen College demanding a day at campus without whites. How bout Saturday Night Live openly using the word cracker. I could go on all day. The fact that your [edit] to recognize that white people are openly disparaged, attacked doesn’t make other people racist.

rollin
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rollin
4 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Kym, I made the exact same comment that Huh made only I used the word douchebag instead of racist. I think it’s safe to say that the vast majority of people would rather have someone insinuate they were a douchebag rather than baselessly insinuate they were a racist, which is exactly what Huh did. It is literally dangerous to be accused of racism. So why was I edited and not him/her. Why the double standard? Bias much?

rollin
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rollin
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

He said : I love it when racists out themselves, insinuating that sheesh is a racist for the crime of stating that white people are under attack. I said: I love it when douchebags out themselves by calling everyone racist. The word douchebag was edited as if that were somehow more offensive then baselessly insinuating sheesh is a racist.
Being accused of being a racist is way more offensive than being accused of being a douchebag. So why delete the exact same sentence ? And people who flippantly hurl around the word racist are pretty much douchebags.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Rollin.

What’s your best example for “whites are under attack”, which you obviously defended?

Please, try be concise and poignant.

Sheesh
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4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Any time we are called racist for disagreeing with the way some of us are trying to revise our societal norms is in itself a racist attack.
As an example Nancy Pelosi was just called a racist for disagreeing with occasio-cortez.
That is an attack.

rollin
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rollin
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Brian,

I gave you 5 examples that, naturally, you ignored. Obviously you don’t have the capacity to deal with 5 examples, or even reality itself. Maybe you can deal with one example, the case of Sarah Jeong’s racist tweets that were initially defended by the NY times. If the word white in her tweets was replaced with ANY other race or gender, the entire world, including the conservative outlets you despise, would have condemned these tweets. You, along with the vast majority of liberals, are more interested in showing the world how low you can grovel for the sin of being white than you are in advocating actual mutual respect among races. So you will ignore my last example just as you did the first 5. Liberal lemmings are so predictable.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  rollin

That’s you’re best example?

Pretty lame.

https://www.vox.com/2018/8/3/17644704/sarah-jeong-new-york-times-tweets-backlash-racism

I’m not an expert on Sarah’s tweets history, but I dont think it compares to what blacks or natives would consider “under attack” historically or contemporarily.

https://theconversation.com/amp/the-dangerous-belief-that-white-people-are-under-attack-88622

https://psmag.com/ideas/how-white-identity-shapes-american-politics

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

If you agree, you should leave it!!

A concept exists that this is your website, and it should represent your work and your ideals.

This is all you!

Your work shines in the articles, but unfortunately you get dragged away from that with moderation realities.

This is because it’s too open for trolls to embellish and spread radicalized concepts from the internet.

There are forums for everything on the internet, including white power sites.

If they really want to discuss white power….

Your website should not be that place.

You have commentors admitting they dont read the articles, they just post and post and post, making money for funnies, and detracting further and further away from topic related discussions.

An idea exists that you could foment better commenting by restricting worse commenting.

This is generally speaking..

Most of everyone could be looking for your next great article, instead of the latest worst comment.

Just my 2 cents (for now), as you know – I’m a big moderation advocate.

I’m currently reading about moderating to understand more about the what’s and whys of it.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

TRB is also a big fan of the “Permit Process” and that has turned out spectacular… Will a permit be needed to apply to comment? Please let us know in Advance.. Will TRB be getting ALL the Air time? Or mass spans of Air time? Or???
Will he be able to Abate other commenters? That does not sound pretty…
Or maybe if it was just TRB’s blog.. He could just talk to himself All Day… that would be boring..
It could be like Clear Channel.. w/ TRB on EVERY STATION??Or Not..
I agree partially tho. Fk being a Whyte pepo sound board. That sounds deffening..
I just felt the need to oppose TRB here on the Overmoderation huhha… And I am just saying I am an UNfan of over moderation..
Dang Kym, u Edited the can o worms comment.. I guess I will never know.. But I knew Kym had a sense of Humor somewhere…

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Smallfry.

In reality most of my comments are replies.

That becomes a discussion, and I’m willing to discuss things for a while.

My comment count is only a fraction of a certain, ahem, other commentor. Infact I only point out 1in4 new civil war comments that said commentor makes. Wink.

Yes. I like moderated threads. Theres lots of reading regarding why. As you and I seem to agree, this should not be a white power or ISIS forum.

Google “why moderation” or “is moderating comments important”
or “tips on comment moderation”.

Or dont.

Again moderating one side of the political aisle is not the point.

Theres lots of room for reasonable discussions and debate under a moderated comment section.

I dont mind that you want to try to counter-argue me. Theres lots of room for that too.

I’m thankful that you arent like Shak in regards to white empowerment.

Regards

Steve Parr
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4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

For an in-your-face look at why moderation can be a good thing, check into LoCo’s Thunderdome for a while, and observe how quickly ANY conversation is quickly drowned out by three or four participants’ interminable, “You’re a twat,” “No, you’re a twat!” exchanges.

Here, as with everywhere nowadays, comments on any subject seem to eventually turn towards, “Trump’s a twat,” “No, he’s not,” but Kym’s able moderation prevents those 300-comment insult and name calling exchanges from happening.

Thank you, Kym.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Some moderation is good and Healthy.. Kym has a good set of rules.. I think I was off to a rocky start.. because I can get firey.. lol.. However I oppose the Idea of banning other commenters based solely on thier political Idealogy alone.. If Shak started calling for Your Ban TRB.. I would be defending you…. Personally, I understand the need to Monitor political Ideology that promotes violence, form any side, or Blantant Rasism.. or sexism.. or Xenophobia.. to an extent…And the name calling ting.. that’s probably best moderated… personal attacks distract from the bigger picture.. but I feel like that rule is … sometimes enforced in slightly biased ways.. sometimes..
What ever people express.. Luv or hate.. it’s not gonna break my day…

rollin
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rollin
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym,

“My own judgment that someone thinking the white people’s suffering is comparable to that of people of color indicates racist ideology adds to the flag not being raised and alerting me to delete it. ”

No one said that but you. They simply said that whites are under attack. And given the fact that it’s perfectly acceptable to use the word cracker and openly criticize people for being too white, the claim has merit. You cannot criticize any other race that way in polite company without backlash. I was raised being taught that it’s wrong to criticize people based on immutable characteristics such as race. Evidently you feel differently. And you certainly can’t go round calling people nigger, spic, chink, etc. without being fully condemned in today’s society. That standard should be applicable across the board. Evidently you feel different.

“Nevermind that I totally agree with huh, I’ll edit the comment.”

It’s your site you can do as you please. But, why not just leave them both? I just wanted to point out your glaring double standard, as you have done for me again with your response .

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  rollin

White people have not endured slavery under black or natives people in America.

There is no systemic racism against whites.

Lynchings, assassinations and false imprisonment, broken treaties, slavery, segregation……how to sum it all up?

It was one way, for a very long time.

The majority of power still lies with the white male.

As a white male, if you think you are offended by “cracker” the same as a black person with “nigger”, I’m sorry you’re offended, but there is no comparison when taken with any context.

Hypocrisy?

The same people who have a hard time understanding this simple concept, then blame a PC culture for ruining America.

I dont shed a tear if I hear cracker personally, I’m sorry some do…..But it’s just not the same.

Sympathy to all, yes. I’m sorry your offended by cracker.

It’s great to say all names are bad and negative, but that’s very simplistic.

And theres nothing wrong with being any color…you don’t choose what your born.

rollin
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rollin
4 years ago
Reply to  rollin

“when the vast number of racial victims are still people of color”

That is your opinion. It is not mine along with many others.

“Using the word “Cracker” is not socially acceptable nor is it acceptable on my webpage either so…I’m not sure of your point”

That’s awesome that calling people cracker is not acceptable on your site. But, before I pointed out the double standard, you never once deleted someone for saying it. And THAT is my point. I think it’s commendable that you don’t allow it anymore but as I said earlier, they say it on national tv and no one says shit, probably out of fear of being called a racist, just like what’s happening here…..and everywhere….it’s gotten out of control. Even Nancy Pelosi now is accused of being a racist. People are saying Joe Biden is too white and there are no cries of racism, only silence.

“So we both believe in free speech.”

Yes we do. I’m sure my comments make you want to pull your hair out. Yet, for the most part you let them stand. I think it’s laudable but unfortunately I think you are in the minority among leftists as far as tolerance goes. I post what I post not because I want to troll the shit out of people but because I genuinely believe that mocking people for their race and constantly blaming one particular race for all of the worlds ills sets a dangerous precedent. That has ended badly in the past and, I think, will end badly again if people don’t speak out.

rollin
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rollin
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Fair enough if you’ve deleted the word cracker being used to denigrate someone’s race in the past. The larger point is that the derogatory term, as well as the general attitude that it is ok to disparage whites is widely accepted in our culture and getting worse. Denigrating other races is not widely accepted, nor should it be. The standard should apply equally; it does not. Hence the belief, whites are under attack.

” You think the vast number of those in the U.S. experiencing racial victimization are white. Since whites as a whole are among the most highly paid, highly educated, powerful and wealthy groups in the country, it’s hard to know what kind of proof you might have to the contrary but I’m open.”

Jews are and were among the most highly paid, educated, powerful and wealthy groups in the world and were persecuted for exactly that reason. Before it got to the point that they were gassed to death etc. they were simply vilified, made to seem less than human, and blamed for societies ills. It didn’t start with slave labor camps and extermination. That hatred was fostered and nurtured and ultimately culminated in murderous atrocities.
The word racial victimization is a broad term but overall, in today’s America, it is unacceptable to criticize ANY group for their race except whites. It’s fashionable to criticize whites and apologize for being white. Just look at the entire democratic field. Do you really need examples?

“lump all conservatives together, you would (rightly) be offended”

Not really. I’m not a conservative. I just despise liberals, in general, more than I do conservatives. I find liberals march more in lock step and more willing to scream at you or smash you in the head with a bike lock for having the wrong opinion.

“We can still differ on where to draw the line on who is racist and who isn’t.”

I think that’s the problem. That line has been so blurred that now you are labeled racist just for disagreeing with any group, other than white men. E.G. AOC and Pelosi. It’s a dangerous precedent. IMO you are a racist if you are antagonistic towards someone specially because of their race, not just because you criticize them and they happen to be of a different race. There needs to be a standard rather than groundless accusations hurled around with such levity, such as, me being accused of racism for the simple observation that whites are under attack.

” Conservatives are probably just as likely to fear saying something that they perceive their fellow political brothers/sisters will find offensive”

We totally agree on that entire last paragraph. People, libs and cons, are scared to say ANYTHING anymore, or even disagree for that matter with any race or gender…… except whites! It’s gotten hyperbolic. And therein lies my entire my point, NO ONE walks around on egg shells for criticizing or disagreeing with whites do they? It’s encouraged. Why? Is it because whites hold more power, are better educated etc? This sort of attitude that’s being fomented, and I’m sorry but it is liberals who are by and large fomenting it, ends in violence. It always has in the past. That is why I go down the rabbit hole with you.

Just one question: You’ve admitted that even liberals fear being labeled as racist; that’s no secret, we all fear that label in this insane environment. But, does anyone fear being labeled as being racist against whites? Or is criticism of whites encouraged (even by whites)? And if people are criticizing whites, and only whites, with impunity, doesn’t that suggest they are under attack?

“Are people really saying Joe Biden is too white? Dang, that guy hangs out a lot in the sun compared to us redheads.”

Glad to see you have a sense of humor through it all, regards.

rollin
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rollin
4 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Not to drag this thread on and on but, your fear of being perceived as even remotely agreeing with anything I’ve said brings us full circle and makes my point. What I’ve said in sum is that the standard for racism should apply equally and currently it does not. That should not be controversial, yet somehow, in this Orwellian environment, it is. Your fear is rational; it is the same reason I operate under a pseudonym. Again, therein lies the point/problem. When people are paralyzed by fear of being ostracized for the crime of demanding equality for all, we have devolved as a society. When it becomes fashionable, even mandatory, to denigrate a particular race, we are setting a dangerous precedent that historically has ended in disaster. When good men/woman do nothing, evil triumphs.

When I was a child I formed my opinions with emotions and also believed that the death penalty was good for certain crimes. Then I realized the hypocrisy. If killing is wrong except in cases of self defense, then it is wrong to kill someone as punishment; that’s not self defense. The standard should apply equally.

Dan
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Dan
4 years ago
Reply to  rollin

White people still have their privilege even after being called racist. White people aren’t under attack; white people who ignore racism or dismiss it are part of the problem.

rollin
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rollin
4 years ago
Reply to  Dan

I agree. Self loathing white people who ignore racism towards white people (or dismiss it) are definitely the problem. Their groveling is pathetic.

triniboldticino
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triniboldticino
4 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Don’t know any of them. I’ve lived for years where lily white me was in the 15% minority, and people of color ran the show. Sure, some issues, but nowhere as bad as I’ve seen in the states against people of color. We never really had a problem. What’s pathetic is excuses. and the people flying the stars and bars and whining “oh poor me” while on SSI, food stamps and general welfare.

Dan
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Dan
4 years ago
Reply to  rollin

I am not self-loathing as a white person. I simply know what racism is and what I see from minorities is NOT racism, but fear and frustration.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tennessee-gov-bill-lee-honors-kkk-grand-wizard-proclamation_n_5d28dd44e4b0060b11ec14fb

LorrieAnne
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LorrieAnne
4 years ago
Reply to  rollin

White people are not systematically declined for mortgages and job interviews based on their race. Actual real world tests show that POC routinely face these types of discrimination. There are verifiable differences in being accepted to rent a home, receiving longer jail sentences, being treated more harshly by school administrators, etc. POC face harsher penalties and less opportunities in virtually every area of our society – today, not 50 years ago. These are all verified facts. Raw data does not lie.

Your lack of success in whatever area(s) of life that are important to you are not because you are being discriminated against as a caucasian. Find a different explanation if you want to change your circumstances as yours does not conform to reality.

Steve Parr
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4 years ago
Reply to  LorrieAnne

“Raw data does not lie.” Yet I’ve been vilified, called foul names, accused of hating black people, spreading lies, and promoting white supremacy, for posting this, which is about as raw as you can get – just not the rawness people are looking for:

file:///C:/Why-is-the-US-so-much-more-dangerous-to-live-in-than-any-other-western-country

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
4 years ago
Reply to  Huh

Anti-white hate speech is not difficult to find.

State Of Mine
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State Of Mine
4 years ago
Reply to  Huh

It does seem as as if America is under attack, from within.

Lady guest
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Lady guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Huh

In regards to ‘SHEESH’ comment….I agree with the statement.

Not because I’m racist, I’m far from it but whites are the minority.

The first thing someone is to point out is whether the “offender” is white and the offeneded is of a different color.

I teach my children to respect all colors because we are ALL humans.

It makes it hard to explain why SOME people of color get offeneded if terms are used that someone might deem racist or sexist etc. When you hear music and social media etc refering to eachother in derogatory way.

Remember, we choose to get offeneded about the small things. I’m a plump woman, if someone where to call me a pig regarding my weight….I can choose to be offeneded or let it roll off my shoulders. I have that choice. Just as we have the choice to see something as racist or mearily someone speaking their mind.

I do agree with the assessment that the flier could be promoting violence. When I read the flier i was very concerned. Youth and some adults have very immpressionable minds and the way it was worded is very concerning.

I truly believe our youth can learn and will change their mind set if they have a leader to teach them great examples.

Be safe and remember to care about each other a little more.

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b.
4 years ago
Reply to  Lady guest

What you may be missing is that many of the comments that people take offense at are comments that accompany actions or the threat of actions that take away their ability to care for themselves and their families.
If someone were to chase you around the grocery store regularly when you were in the “skinny neighborhood” watching what you buy and looking at you suspiciously–if when you forgot your money the clerk spent 5 minutes investigating your ID and then wouldn’t take your debit card because the address on the card account didn’t match your ID and you’d obviously gained or lost weight– if when you accidentally forgot and left the bag of potatoes on the bottom of your cart, they didn’t ask you about them but just called the police– if your kids were told that their “people of size” eating habits and their obvious “fat people names” were the reason that they wouldn’t be allowed to work or get an education unless they moved away from your neighborhood– then you would be experiencing the kind of treatment that people call “oppression.”
We all experience some amount of this, but some people experience a lot more of it.

Dan
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Dan
4 years ago
Reply to  Lady guest

Are you trying to say black people should know their place and if they don’t want to be discriminated against they should keep quiet and act as white as possible?
Racism isn’t just about name-calling. Give us all a break and crack a book or actually listen to what minority populations are saying. The ignorance of many of you is what is most troubling about all of this.

Hawk
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Hawk
4 years ago
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Black people shouldn’t become hostile towards someone who’s only standing behind them waiting for a light, then chase them down stand behind them in a threatening way, asking them how they like someone standing behind them, spit on them and leave. Only to return again to follow her to where she lives and again verbally and physically assaulting her by hitting her. That happened to someone I’m acquainted with yesterday.

Sometimes blacks need remedial social education and training in how to live and move around others. I’ve had several encounters with hostile blacks doing their best to start stuff in the business area of Eureka, mostly in and around the mall while minding my own business. Some blacks seem to roll with a chip on their shoulder. It’s to the point around blacks it’s hard to relax.

Did you see the fat hostile looking and acting black pimps by north end MacDonalds not too long again. They had their ‘girls’ who looked like high school kids, even standing in the southbound 101 trying to pick up dates. The black pimps were acting like ‘I’m a gonna kill ya, if you even look at me’.

ernestine
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ernestine
4 years ago
Reply to  Sheesh

Sheesh: That’s because you’re white. How many times have you been afraid when you were pulled over?

Ive never been afraid of more than the ticket and its cost.

None of my friends or family have ever been tormented or killed during a routine traffic stop.

Epd did have a rash of killing unarmed white people in the 2000s, but this white community put a stop to that within five years. If this were a black or latino community, it would still be happening. And it wouldn’t have been new when it started.

I see it as truly annoying to watch the elijah crew put the routine lazy ineptitude of local police down as special to them because they are black, but nationwide, the need for racial equity is real.

And their asking for it is not an attack on me. There are some things said that make me pull back from my ethnic friends. They have to do their thing. But it’s not personal to me or my whiteness, it’s just where we are in history.

Idk if Trump started it, but he sure is exacerbating it.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
4 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

The 2006-era rash of police shootings occurred against people who were assaulting police officers with deadly weapons.

There are many factors contributing to the apparent statistical discrepancies between police interactions with different groups. If someone has a chip on their shoulder leading them to show defiance against “the man,” it tends to escalate things. Unfortunately, certain subcultures in minority communities regard that as the cool thing to do.

ernestine
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ernestine
4 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

Three-eyes… you are wrong. The first was a lady in her own home, who had law enforcement called on her by mental health. She only didnt want to come out. So the over zealous epd made up a reason to use the swat team on her and killed her in her own home.
Another was a 16 year old who was running away feom law enforcement when some off duty dick decided to get an assault weapon out and corner the kid in the woods instead of waiting for backup.
Well actually the very first was a man in 2001 or 02 who was an antagonizing criminal, but he was running awayfrom cops when they shot him in the back in thewinco parking lot.
They appeared to have planted a gun on him after the fact. “We found a weapon on him” is not good reason to shoot a man in the back even if he’s a dick.
Another was killed by chp in blue lake as i remember, but he was armed with a rake for crying out loud. He was mainly guilty of being the son of someone who was irritating law enforcement.
Sadly, and im sorry to their families, i dont remember the details of the others.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
4 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

Stop making stuff up.

Cheri Lynn Moore was armed with a flare gun, which counts as a deadly weapon, and threatening to burn the place down. The cops were trying to negotiate with her for hours. They greenlighted entry when a spotter (mistakenly) reported that the flare gun was out of her reach. When she pointed the flare gun at the officers at close quarters, they responded exactly the way they are trained to do in the face of imminent lethal threats.

Christopher Arian Burgess pulled a knife at close quarters as he was cornered by a pursuing officer. The officer responded to an imminent lethal threat with his service weapon, not an assault rifle. Sheesh!

IIRC there were one or two other incidents where someone pulled a gun on a pursuing officer.

Those cases became politicized by “progressives” because of the chilly relationship between EPD and Paul Gallegos. And Gallegos made a blatantly political decision to prosecute EPD over the Moore case. It got summarily tossed, as with Gallegos’ other political prosecutions.

When people stopped pulling weapons against the police, the shootings stopped. Funny how that works, isn’t it?

local observer
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local observer
4 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

while i was waiting for my cheese steak, i noted that Cheri was hanging half out her window threatening the EPD with a fire extinguisher. as far as Burgess goes, the settlement says it all and the requirement for a new out of the area chief.

Central HumCo
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  local observer

Eureka’s Charter is specific about the Chief living two years prior in Eureka. The ONLY draw-back about the current Chief. But hey, nearly everything else* in the Charter is swept under the rug, so this one thing isn’t holding him back from doing his best.

*The City Council still provides an “Enabeling Clause” at the beginning of their Rules, Resolutions and Ordinances. Which is more than i can say about the infamous Supe’s infamous Ordinances.

local observer
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local observer
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Chief Mills was headhunted out of San Diego to be the EPD Chief and moved to Arcata upon taking the job, he never lived in Eureka. he is doing an amazing job in Santa Cruz.

Central HumCo
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  local observer

~Downey, Mills and John Ford from San Diego – Check. Probably more than half the corporate governMental payroll of The County is from San Diego, or at least San Francisco and all points south.

Mills was the turning point from being hired by the Mayor, to hired by the un-elected City Mgr.

Oh Eureka.

Chief Watson
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Chief Watson
4 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

Ernestine, Your facts are so far off on these examples I’m not even going to waste my time correcting them. Good news is all the officer involved shooting incidents that we still possess records of are going to be released to the public soon and people can draw their own conclusions. I’d only ask they recognize the lens through which they are viewing them and at least try to understand the context in which they occurred.

ernestine
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ernestine
4 years ago
Reply to  Chief Watson

Oh please do correct my inaccuracies. Im curious. Thirdeye gives lots of details about what cheri did, but he fails to acknowledge she simply didn’t want to come out of her house.

She wasnt resisting a warrant or randomly threatening violence. (They were there for an effing welfare check for christ sake.) She was saying, i’f you try to force me out, ill fuck you up’. And furthermore, her friend was outside and knew how to help but the cops had it under control and killed her to prove it.

And he says mr burges pulled a knife at close quarters, but thats not accurate. He was running away from his probation officer and had some knife in his hand as he happened to go by a school. He didnt look at the school or threaten anybody. An off duty cop sitting at the school decides, im a hero and jumps in the ravine with the kid.
That man should be under the jail for all the common sense he abandoned that day that resulted in him choosing to shoot and kill a child.

We will all be glad to see those records!! Thank you to our da for that.

Dan
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Dan
4 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

NONSENSE. Victim blaming again?

tax payer
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tax payer
4 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

fake news people. look at the numbers

Bushytails
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Bushytails
4 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

I’ve known one person who was killed by the local police, and was a friend of someone who had their friend killed by the local police. Both were white and either unarmed or carrying something that could only vaguely be described as a weapon. Just because it happened in the 2000s doesn’t mean the culture that led to it – shoot first and ask questions later – isn’t how our police operate.

ernestine
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ernestine
4 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Cops are cops for sure, but no one else has needlessly been killed by them locally.
The Epd chief of the “bad period” was sent packing. The next chief was hated because he so thoroughly routed the department of their bs. Then harpham threatened to bring the bad days back. And this newest chief seems to be a good man doing as good a job as can be done with guns, badges and insufficient oversight from the district attornies of our nation.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
4 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

Again, stop making stuff up.

Central HumCo
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

~that’s the way i remember it, ernestine.

Except there was an “Interim Chief” (not just in Eureka, but also L.A. and Oakland), during Occupy Eureka when the Supes., and Gallegos ordered a 3:00 a.m. terrorist raid on sleeping Occupiers.

“And this newest chief seems to be a good man . . .”
I see this too. A plus for the Eureka villagers.

Central HumCo
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Sheesh

~i don’t feel under attack, well, other than the uninformed National Guard, or is it bankrupt PG&E, or is it??

Oh! OH!! this just in: (“Extreme Weather” & “Wildfire Season” comin’ up)

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shak
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shak
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

There are a lot of video’s on YT to help people to adjust to being off the grid. Hopefully those who can prepare can help other’s who can’t.
This is one of the sites that has a lot of ‘cheap’ tips for emergencies or for just starting out. Everything from solar lights, fans, cookers, generators, pumps, Reflectix for just about everything … you name it, he’s probably covered the most basics.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAj7O3LCDbkIR54hAn6Zz7A/videos

For instance: affordable suitcase solar panels for charging phones, etc. (reviews pro’s & con’s of various ones) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ6RU75A5ys

A little (but powerful) generator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcwmvViTWyk

Central HumCo
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  shak

shak,

~i didn’t provide ‘filed for bankruptcy’ PG&E Inc., link for reference. I meant it as a joke. If they’re not in emails, they’re on the radio. If they’re not on the radio, they’re at 500′ and hovering. If they’re not hovering, they’re in your mailbox. If not in your mailbox, they’re just cruising around town (Fortuna).

They just can’t seem to CLEAR BRANCHES FROM ELECTRICAL LINES.

Get ready for EXTREME WEATHER!!! and WILD, WILD, WILDFIRES!!! – brought to you by (drum roll) PG&E’ Order Followers.

shak
Guest
shak
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Yeh, I hear ya. Especially with the well known political antics over the federal money being cut off to those governors who don’t abide by the Constitution.
The pity card has been used before, it’ll be used again. I don’t think it will do them any good, but, it will be used.

In the meantime, all we can do is to prepare and to help others prepare. The most important area of preparing, is spiritual. The other areas are survival. Lucky are they who can afford the gas to move to a more sane state.

alsotaxpayer
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alsotaxpayer
4 years ago
Reply to  Sheesh

Oh Lord please seek help dude. We are talking about nazis. Not your offended feelings.

Hugo
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Hugo
4 years ago
Reply to  Sheesh

Under attack? From what space aliens? This is a typical case of white fragility and shows absolute weakness and unintelligent thinking. You should consult a psychiatrist about the psychosis you suffer from your skin tone. Does your fragile skin get windburn from the pathetic hot air that flows from your mouth?

Drew
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Drew
4 years ago
Reply to  Morons

Seems to me that statement may be promoting violence. Even if only paraphrasing what grandpas might have said.

Drew
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Drew
4 years ago
Reply to  Morons

Kym can you please explain why my comments are getting erased? All I did was point out something in my opinion which could be pro-violence? With all this talk about First Amendment rights, seems a little funny to me.

Perhaps you could fill me in? Thanks

Drew
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Drew
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Is shooting a man in the dick not violent?

ernestine
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ernestine
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew

She’s busy, let me see if i can help:
The dyckshooting was said in a satirical relation of an historical event, in the far far past. It was not an invitation or incitement in the current time.
Do you see the difference?

guest
Guest
guest
4 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

It’s just as bad to see a “difference” where there is none as to not see it when there is one. One “difference” that is frequently missed is those who express hatred of a group of people (whether by race or profession) when what they are actually condemning is behavior common in certain members of humanity in general. Such lack of discernment make that person’s words worse than useless- it makes them dangerous if anyone takes them seriously at all.

Central HumCo
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  guest

” . . or profession) when what they are actually condemning is behavior common in certain members of humanity”.

~i fail to see the humanity in traitors of the BRITISH Accreditation Registry (BAR Club), members. Not to say that there aren’t a handful of good ones drilling the Constitution into the courts across the land. We just don’t hear too much about them.

The creation of incorporated “personas” to entrap and enslave living people together with the practice of personage, barratry, and the subtle or armed ‘takings’ that goes with it, is the rankest kind of substitution fraud known to man. Better known as “Identity Theft” — from the cradle to the casket.

local observer
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local observer
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew

do you really think a man shot hammer in the ball’s twice? i envision a woman who was abused, probably more than once by the man, did the shooting. fieldbrook is not a normal little valley, it has a horrible history of horrible actions by men and history tends to repeat itself.

Steve Parr
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  local observer

Are you the same person who claimed there were public lynchings of black people in Fieldbrook as recently as the 1980s?

Lynn H
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Lynn H
4 years ago

Hmmm…. was he acting alone or under the direction of an older organizer?\

Thank you family!

Jusssayin,mytruckisahillbeater
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Jusssayin,mytruckisahillbeater
4 years ago

What if this kid just took one for the team in respect for the bigger group at hand

Dog
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Dog
4 years ago

Isn’t it his first amendment right to hand those out if he wants? Not defending the content, just asking..

Co2dav
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Co2dav
4 years ago
Reply to  Dog

Yes‼️ The first amendment gives people the right to say anything and gather. No matter how stupid they are they still have that right.
What most forget is people also have the right not to have to listen.

Huh?
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Huh?
4 years ago
Reply to  Co2dav

You don’t have the fucking right to say anything. Hate speech isn’t covered by the first amendment. The kkk had to march silently in Skokie for that reason many years ago. You’re wrong.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Huh?

Yes, hate speech is protected speech. As long as it’s not a call to action all speech is protected under the 1st Amendment.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
4 years ago
Reply to  Huh?

The number of people who believe that hate speech is not protected under the First Amendment is surprising. What’s worse is that idea is propagated in higher education, among people who should know better.

tax payer
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tax payer
4 years ago
Reply to  Huh?

hate speech isnt real, change my mind

1st Amendment
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1st Amendment
4 years ago
Reply to  Huh?

You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Might be time to stop posting until you read the constitution.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Huh?

Huh?

Everyone saying you’re wrong, well they aren’t completely right either.

But it’s a fine line of what’s prosecutable.

This poster would not cut it in a court case, and is protected speech.

But it’s great the FBI will keep tabs on this troubled youth.

Check this for starters:

https://www.google.comamp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/how-federal-law-draws-a-line-between-free-speech-and-hate-crimes

Antichrist
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Antichrist
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

the only thing that keeps free speech freeis the tolerance of speech that one doesnt agree with.
as i like to say people have thw right to be wrong and each and every single person needs to respect the fact that in order to be able to openly express ones self , they must afford others that same right and freedom regusrdless of the taste it leaves in ones mouth.

Efram Zimbalist Jr
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Efram Zimbalist Jr
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

You really think the FBI has the time, will, or manpower to keep some track of some boneheaded kid in Eureka who posted a flyer?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago

The EPD and FBI have a file on him now.

They are building his profile.

But no, they wont be literally “watching” him.

Someone
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Someone
4 years ago
Reply to  Huh?

Then why do people get to gather yelling things like “fag#%ts burn in hell” “kill trump” psycho church people protest at soldiers funerals and call them sinners, murderers… its absolutely allowed, as long as you have a permit to gather. Not that thats a great thing…..

Bushytails
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Bushytails
4 years ago
Reply to  Dog

Unfortunately, I have to agree that as long as he limits his actions to speech, he should be allowed to say it. And I say this as a (not race related) minority who has been the target of a hate-related attack, as well as received dozens of death threats for once running a non-conservative-compliant group. Freedom of speech is really important, and needs to be defended no matter how much I disagree with the speech in question. However, the depiction of a firearm would suggest he’s encouraging violence, which is _not_ protected speech. “I think <group> shouldn’t exist” and “I think we should go shoot <group>” are very different statements – one is exercising one’s freedom of speech, and the other is inciting violence.

EDIT: apparently anything you put in angle brackets gets taken to be html and vanishes…

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
4 years ago

Must’ve watched some Tucker Carlson,
Lol..
And the suspect is multi racial it turns out, which is cool, but oh the lofty ideals of our nation fall on deaf ears in a century of apparent dunces. Wtf, Walmart & co-op shoppers agree

Drew
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Drew
4 years ago
Reply to  Canyon oak

Where did you find out his race? Do you know the family?

If someone does know the kids name would it be illegal to out him?

Bushytails
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Bushytails
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Speaking of the rules, I tried the About link on top to see if they were there, but it doesn’t load – firefox says it’s too broken to render, and viewing the source shows most of a page, ending with a 500 internal server error preventing it from being displayed.

ernestine
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ernestine
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Canyon oak, did you know Hitler’s mother was jewish?
It’s still ‘wtf!’ territory, but it isn’t new territory.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I’d offer to take a look at it, but wordpress really is its own entire field separate from web design in general, and someone who is familiar with it would have a lot easier time at it.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew

“This person is a multiracial, 16-year old male …” from the EPD press release.

Lynn H
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Lynn H
4 years ago
Reply to  Canyon oak

You’d be surprised to see how many multiracial kids join or try to join WS groups. I know I was. There are some pretty confused people out there. Some of the WS groups in Ca actively try to get mixed white and native kids to join. Because “Indians have magic powers”. Then I’ve met mixed people who just hate parts of themselves and have no problem being public with that.

Greust
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Greust
4 years ago
Reply to  Lynn H

And it’s no surprise how many white kids join the local MS-13. Just ask Kathleen Bryson she defends them all the time in court.

Rag
Guest
Rag
4 years ago

What was his crime?
Though thit was vile…not illegal

tax payer
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tax payer
4 years ago
Reply to  Rag

no crime. they are suggesting classes or ‘resources’

Rag
Guest
Rag
4 years ago

Ugh…not eve that vile, just not good

Robin
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Robin
4 years ago
Reply to  Rag

Inciting to violence is the crime he has committed. As well as being an accessory to racketeering.

Central HumCo
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Robin

~no, maybe this one is funniest.

Racketeering. SMH.

No injured party.

There are no crimes, just commerce.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Robin

I see a picture of a rifle. I see an opinion stating that the “System” is biased against whites. I see a call to organize against this bias. That’s about it. I don’t see any hate speech or threats of violence. By the way, that rifle is a tool used by those amongst us who protect everyones rights. Kid’s just a dipshit. I saw way worse out of Renee Saucedo and her crew when they were demanding sanctuary in front of the Fortuna Police Department.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Yes I can.

The Real Brian
Guest
The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

C’mon Guest, your so freaking close – I’m excited!

Do I need to wait till tomorrow, or should I stay up late?

The Real Brian
Guest
The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Tomorrow it is.

So, so funny.

The Real Brian
Guest
The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Yeah, still waiting.

Do you have an ETA for this buildup of suspense to end?

I have an appointment next week.

Rag
Guest
Rag
4 years ago

Thought we could just talk about it…god

The Real Brian
Guest
The Real Brian
4 years ago

Chief Watson, from Thads article.

“There is a big message here that parents, you need to talk to your kids about hate and bias and you need to monitor not just their real-life friends who they see face to face but also who they spend time with online,” he said. “Who they communicate with online is often just as important as who they communicate with in person.”

Thinking of many commentors here with that statement….somehow it’s still a minority that calls out extremism here on RHBB.

But, I’m most impressed by the Editors note at the end:

Editor’s note: The Journal has made the editorial choice of not including this hate group’s name or linking to its social media accounts or website because we are not in the business of promoting hate groups or doing anything that could aid their recruiting efforts.

Right on!

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

The Journal only promotes the hate groups they endorse.

The Real Brian
Guest
The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

You’re a hoot. What hate group has the Journal promoted.

Links please. I dont trust anyone here for shit.

The Real Brian
Guest
The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Here, you need help apparently.

Racism Behind the Redwood Curtain, Part I: The Lonely World of Humboldt’s White Supremacists

https://m.northcoastjournal.com/NewsBlog/archives/2015/07/10/racism-behind-the-redwood-curtain-part-i-the-lonely-world-of-humboldts-white-supremacists

I wouldn’t call it promoting Stormfront, but maybe this is what you meant?

Great article.

Rag
Guest
Rag
4 years ago

My God, it’s Thaddeus Greenson, no less…who could have ever guessed?

Central HumCo
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Rag

~funniest for the day!

Der!
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Der!
4 years ago

Who said my race was under attack? Did someone blow up Wales, Ireland, France or Germany?

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Der!

I could resist. But yes. At one time or another everyone of those countries were invaded, conquered or under foreign military control.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago

Juxtapose. This one shows much more creativity.

Central HumCo
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Yepper!

The Real Brian
Guest
The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Nopers.

Ullr Rover
Guest
Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

“Only on the bones of the oppressors can the peoples’ freedom be founded only the blood of the oppressors can fertilize the soil for the peoples’ self-rule”

In case you can’t read it.

The Real Brian
Guest
The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Thats also on half of every HumCo post…

Sorry Ullr, that poster was made roughly within 20 years of blacks being allowed to share bathrooms with whites, only by law, not in practice, and in some areas only.

Kind of lame example. Plus it is saying “oppressors”, as opposed to extremist Louis F, who would say Zionist Jew Devils and white devils.

The BPP worked with many whites, and were smart in the regard that they were clearly NOT starting a race war….or continuing one I should say.

 For instance, whereas African American cultural nationalists generally regarded all white people as oppressors, the Black Panther Party distinguished between racist and nonracist whites and allied themselves with progressive members of the latter group.

Also, whereas cultural nationalists generally viewed all African Americans as oppressed, the Black Panther Party believed that African American capitalists and elites could and typically did exploit and oppress others, particularly the African American working class. 

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Black-Panther-Party

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

The other poster says “system”.

My point is, if this poster was put up today in the same place as the “white youth” poster I don’t anyone would have bat an eye. Unfortunately, political sensibilities are swayed by popular confusion. Tribalism predates any current form of government.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

“White youth”

“..wants..our race dead”

“..bring an end to it”

Little more than “system.”

Lot more than BPP poster.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Your contortions trying to rationalize the inflammatory BPP poster are hilarious.

The Real Brian
Guest
The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

I support the BPP.

They arent about race wars, they work with any race willing to work to end oppression.

Thirdeye
Guest
Thirdeye
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

You’ll need to do some time travel to be a BPP supporter, since their leader disbanded it in 1982 after it lost its funding sources because of racketeering scandals.

The Real Brian
Guest
The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

Philosophically I support the idea of working with other races to end obvious oppression.

BPP is disbanded, and I could have used past tense.

What’s interesting is you’ve still only called the black power poster “inflammatory”, and not used a descriptive word that denotes negativity toward the white power poster.

Maybe I’m wrong?

Thirdeye
Guest
Thirdeye
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Yes, you are wrong. I said it was flirting with incitement to violence on the original thread, because of the image of the assault rifle.

I regard all inciters and excusers of racial violence with contempt, no matter what their race.

The Real Brian
Guest
The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I looked on this thread, but forgot the original article.

It seems like your just perching on the outskirts of defending some quite racially biased statements, regarding Africa and finding anti white hate speech.

Louis Farrakhan (hate speech) and ISIS (hate crimes) are good examples, but not the BPP.

Thirdeye
Guest
Thirdeye
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

What racially biased statements regarding Africa am I defending? Oh…… “perching on the outskirts of defending” is weasel wording that gives you an escape.

You would be a fool to contend that anti-white hate speech doesn’t exist. There was some floating around on social media during the Evergreen State College racial brouhaha in 2017, and solicitation of criminal violence from faculty member Naima Lowe against another faculty member. Not some adolescent punk putting up flyers, a faculty member. There was also a comment on social media during the Josiah Lawson fiasco, to the effect of, “if there were more of us, we could burn the place (Arcata) down.” The spirit of H. Rap Brown lives on.

If BPP member and former serial rapist Eldridge Cleaver’s comment about raping white women being and “insurrectionary act” (Soul on Ice) isn’t hate speech, I don’t know what is. That was written while he was on the run for staging an ambush on a cop car that resulted in one police officer and one BPP member dead. Another line from a BPP speaker that lives in infamy, from the SDS convention of 1969: “The strategic position of women in the movement is prone.” The BPP did tone down that sort of extreme rhetoric once they realized that it was alienating one of their main sources of funding.

The Real Brian
Guest
The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Apply Eldridge Cleaver rape paragraph with Brett Kavenaugh.

White power.

Now Trump.

Extreme statements come from many people, but white power is evident.

Understand?

Eldridges’ situation is and was much different than any white youth in America.

MLK had been assassinated and blacks had to use different bathrooms.

Thirdeye
Guest
Thirdeye
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

WHAAAAAT??!!

That word salad just left me shaking my head.

Is it meant to imply that hate speech from the likes of Eldridge Cleaver, H. Rap Brown, Stokely Carmichael, and Naima Lowe is ok because of segregated restrooms and the assassination of MLK?

The Real Brian
Guest
The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Its 6 sentences, barely.

Try again.

* No, the point is you get away with it if your white.

They even get to be a Supreme Court Justice or President.

That is white white power.

And it’s in 2019.

I’m not excusing rape by anyone.

I’m showing you what modern day white power is;

and saying comparing it to 1960s black empowerment movements, that worked multi-culturally,is ridiculous.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Ridiculously farfetched comparison between Kavanaugh and Cleaver. For starters, the “case” against Kavanaugh stank to high heaven. That was the opinion of the female prosecutor who investigated it for the Judiciary Committee. Clarence Thomas was also confirmed after surviving a similar cheap shot during his nomination. Was that also “white power?” I do not like Kavanaugh, but a politically motivated ambush, outside of the legal system, alleging sexual misconduct years ago, is beyond the pale.

The only figure I can recall who had any kind of public career after attempting to justify any kind of rape on political grounds is Eldridge Cleaver.

Lynn H
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Lynn H
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

You definitely have a point. Both are legal. I do think people would bat an eye and wouldn’t appreciate it, especially today when they don’t have everyday current events that put it into context.

There is definitely a difference to being white. I think the RB said it well. Oppression is really distasteful to most people. Whether it’s race, class or whatever. It’s not OK to put down whites just for being white or for being conservative- which happens a lot. Too much. It’s wrong to name call or threaten Trump supporters. Very wrong. But it’s also a real stretch to say you’re being oppressed and completely understand oppression when you don’t have to worry much about a cop or some random person shooting you or beating the crap out of you on a back street simply because of your race or sexuality. I have a feeling you might know what a constant threat of violence does to people…

People do not travel much in this country because they are scared of getting shot or having the crap beat out of them. Who? You say?

Anon
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4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Thanks.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Delete away, but it’s a Black Panther Party recruitment poster. I’m illustrating a point. If this poster had been put up would have the EPD contacted the FBI ? Would it have been a news story?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

But you ignore my points.

The example doesn’t work.

The BPP never called for a race war. They worked with whites.

Your being silly.

And yes, the FBI was called on the BPP and the organization was infiltrated by FBI.

How is this a good example to make your point.

All your trying to do is justify the extremism this post is about with horrible historical examples by non whites extreme calling for ending extreme oppression.

And you ignore posts here everyday of similar nature to this BPP posters wording.

Thirdeye
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4 years ago
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The BPP did advocate armed insurrection until they figured out that the results weren’t working out so hot. When Eldridge Cleaver and Bobby Hutton ambushed a police car, Hutton ended up dead and Cleaver ended up on the run. Huey Newton was also involved in a shootout where a police officer was killed. In Soul on Ice, Cleaver referred to the rape of a white woman by a black man as an “insurrectionary act.” So, yes, there was an attempt to justify racialized violence.

The BPP worked “with” whites mainly for fundraising. Some of their fundraising amounted to shakedowns.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~i didn’t notice it was supposed to be for a purple, a green or a blue people. I just checked the slogan and like it much better than Jefferson’s “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure”, quote.

I immediately thought of the FBI ambush and murder of “LaVoy” Finicum <<<that's when you know your Sheriff is not an Oath Keeper.

Lynn H
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Lynn H
4 years ago
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LOL, yeah, the EPD certainly would have called the FBI. They just wouldn’t have been public with that fact.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Lynn H

I have no idea the relationship between the FBI and EPD, but it seems odd to seek outside counsel on such trivial matters.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

It’s only trivial till deemed so.

And it has been deemed more than trivial.

The FBI has more resources and expertise in providing profiles of documented hate groups and profiles of potential mass shooters.

It was right to ask the FBI for assistance.

If they never had, and this kid shot 4 non whites, can you imagine the royal fuck up that would be?

Taking professional responsibility seriously. It’s a job well done

Lynn H
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4 years ago
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Thanks for responding Ullr.

It may seem trivial till they shoot people, blow up a synagogue or church or rob a brinks truck- all of which have happened with these groups. Many times. Just because they’re nutty as fuck and not playing with a full deck doesn’t mean they aren’t capable of following instructions or taking a hammer to someone. They’re also known in some areas for counterfeiting rings and meth importation. Some of them in some places have Mexican wives. They feel women aren’t so important so their ethnicity isn’t so important as long as they aren’t black. Go figure that one out- IDK, it hurts my head to try.

I hope you can understand it’s a HUGE emotional and social trigger for people who have lost friends and family to them or have been afraid to travel far because of them. It’s not a snowflake thing. It’s a gun in your face kind of thing, and it’s entirely random. I don’t know if you can put yourself in that place. How would you feel if you knew you could be seriously threatened if you traveled very far outside of town centers? You’d probably be highly pissed off at the least.

Ullr Rover
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4 years ago
Reply to  Lynn H

Thanks for sharing a first hand experience. No sarcasm. I understand that there has been difficulty with fellow tribesmen, and that there has been a heap of shit piled on my brethren for millenia upon millenia, but I still defend the right to post ideas regardless of stupidity. Period.

Lynn H
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Lynn H
4 years ago
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Fair enough. We still disagree but I understand what you’re saying. Or part of it anyway, I’m not completely sure.

I suppose it’s a good thing he did post that, now maybe he won’t get a chance to blow anything up if he happened to be so inclined.

Ullr Rover
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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

No, I would not have “lost my shit.” As I have stated many times in many ways, I certainly don’t agree with everyone’s ideas but I am, sure as shit, going to defend your right to say it.

The 2 posters are expressing the same idea from different points of view.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I’m also a big advocate of private property. I use your site under your terms. I have no qualms with that.

I know a couple of posts of mine have disappeared, but I assume it was someone responding to me who violated your terms… as far as I know being a sarcastic ass is allowed.

… and I know nothing of Brothers United so I keep my uninformed opinions to myself. This is the most i’ve ever typed about that group.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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I’m still pretty lost on the idea that the BPP, who worked with any race, can be compared to a white supremacist!!

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
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[edit] At no point did I compare the “BPP” to “White Youth”. I compared the use of recruitment posters and their freedom to post and the subsequent reactions.

The Real Brian
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4 years ago
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No, I’m not buying that, I’m too dense.

What were the reactions to the BPP party poster?

You provided no context or information for that discussion.

How can I compare reactions if you didnt provide any?

All you provided was a BPP poster for comparison to a White Youth poster.

The freedom to post it is described in the article by the Police, and they did it without bringing up 40 year old not-even-close comparisons.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Start with your own reaction for comparison.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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What this:

https://kymkemp.com/2019/07/11/male-juvenile-identified-as-posting-white-supremacist-recruiting-fliers-in-eureka/#comment-834806

You’ve now evaded my points by telling me you were implying one thing (without stating that in your original comment) and now you want me to read my reactions that your ignoring?

You read it.

Remember when you tried to argue “nigger” isn’t offensive.

I do.

You want that link?

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I’m not evading I’m ignoring you. Maybe after a beer this evening I’ll engage in pointless rhetoric.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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Ullr,

Read your original post.

You mentioned nothing of comparing a 2019 social response to white supremists next to a 1970s poster of black power.

It’s not a good comparison for many reasons as I explained.

You should have found a more extreme by policy group, like ISIS posters.

But beyond that, you just were not clear on your intentions.

Infact, you posted no intentions.

You posted a poster to let us figure out why you posted it!

There is no debate.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I didn’t any of my posts in any month had been singled out for deletion.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

*know

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Should I have I used “obtuse” instead of “dense”.

The Real Brian
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4 years ago
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Either or dont bother me.

I would have said factually anal with a damn good memory….but I’m normally my only fan – and normally my best critic.

So I’m biased.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

From a personal point of view, I can appreciate that Brian.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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I thought you might.

I call myself an @$$#*!% at least once a day.

I’m sure everyone can agree with me on that, and I dont need any links for it either.

Steve Parr
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4 years ago
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“Brothers United,” is the peaceful black-only off-campus club in Arcata whose members jumped a lone white man during a party a couple of years ago, beating him nearly to death for asking about a phone.

One of their members was stabbed to death during the assault. The lone white man, who had been knocked unconscious, was initially charged with murder, but was released when no evidence supported the charge.

None of the club members were charged with anything, even after freely admitting to beating and kicking a man into unconsciousness, and the available evidence points to only one of two things: the lone white man, in fear for his life, killing a club member in self defense; or another club member accidentally killing his compatriot, while trying to kill the lone white man.

Regardless of which scenario actually occurred, under California’s Felony Murder Rule (even the new version), all of the members of the club who participated in the felonious assault which resulted in the death of one of their members could be charged with murder, as it appears they all aided and abetted the crime.

None of them were charged with anything.

Which of course, somehow, proves how racist this county is, and how dangerous it is for black people living here.

And I wonder why I drink.

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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

He didn’t. He used it as an example of the same coin of threats minted by liberals(?), people of color (?) to show that the people constantly being all outraged by the whiteness of the one and simultaneously outraged by people who dare to be offended by the same idea they just found offensive themselves. I don’t know if that means he thinks it’s an acceptable idea or not but certainly the point that it is common to all is true. This whole article is about a similar threat and it is not possible to discuss it rationally without allowing examples that are there for discussion, not advocacy.

I posted an image of violence against Trump supporters (that you deleted apparently) to make the point that there should not be tolerated abuse just because of the political orientation or race making it. ALL equivalent attacks should meet with equivalent outrage. Which they aren’t.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
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I’m not judging the ideas only the people’s right to express those ideas.

I expressed my point of juxtaposing in a comment above.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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But it just doesn’t juxtapose with anything here.

But I guess you may disagree with that.

I wont argue.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Again, I’m not arguing for or against ideas relayed in the posters only for the right of free speech; which is unequivocal regardless of how repugnant the speech may be.

The Real Brian
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4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Not unequivocal.

Court cases have ruled on hate speech.

This example would likely not be prosecuted, as EPD rightfully decided.

But, there are limits.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/how-federal-law-draws-a-line-between-free-speech-and-hate-crimes

tax payer
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tax payer
4 years ago
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that is about threats and not all threats are bad. kinda like a beware of dog sign is not bad

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Yes, unequivocal. The only limits are on calls to action, and that is because of the potential of the action not the speech.

Your link says as much : “Comments intended as specific and immediate threats …”

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Says more than that.

A 1942 Supreme Court decision called Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire — which involved a Jehovah’s Witness who cursed at a city marshal, calling him a “damned fascist” — articulated a “fighting words” doctrine that restricted insults intended to provoke an “immediate breach of the peace.”

Thirdeye
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4 years ago
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You need to read more carefully. There is a difference between hate speech, which is protected, and hate crimes, which are acts of violence.

“Comments intended as specific and immediate threats brush up against those protections, regardless of a person’s race or religion. So do personal, face-to-face comments meant to incite imminent lawlessness, such as a riot.” (italics added)

Lynn H
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Lynn H
4 years ago
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Well, not really.

Yeah, sure
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Yeah, sure
4 years ago
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Blacks have endured REAL oppression. These snowflake white wimps aren’t oppressed, they are just stirring up racial tension in their chicken shit White Nationalist way.

tax payer
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tax payer
4 years ago
Reply to  Yeah, sure

reread it. he isnt white

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
4 years ago
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I’m talking about where this mixed up kid got his ideas in the first place. White oppression is pushed by White Nationalists and the AltRight. This kids actions are the result of seeing or hearing White Nationalist Snowflake rhetoric.

shak
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shak
4 years ago
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I kind of agree. Aren’t most University professors, ‘journalists’, and ‘authorities’ white? I think it was Kym who drew up an article to prove that point.

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4 years ago
Reply to  Yeah, sure

Yes. In this country they have. Do you really think that is not in the minds of people who hear similar rhetoric against their own race? That it might creating such fear apparently deliberately? Those who advocate for revenge rather than principle shouldn’t be surprised that some of their targets take those words seriously.

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4 years ago
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Yeah, sure: you hit it on the head. Its so sad to hear white guys complain about being suppressed. So pathetic. If you aren’t doing well out there in the world, you have no one to blame but yourself. You have every built in advantage available.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

Thanks WC,

Every comment counts.

Sid vicious
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Sid vicious
4 years ago
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— which involved a Jehovah’s Witness who cursed at a city marshal, calling him a “damned fascist” — articulated a “fighting words” doctrine that restricted insults intended to provoke an “immediate breach of the peace.”

Kinda sounds familiar. …

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

The kid who put up the poster isn’t white by popular definition: “multiracial” per the EPD press release.

Lynn H
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Lynn H
4 years ago
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I think if you asked the kid he’d probably want to identify as all white. He’s a little confused.

tax payer
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tax payer
4 years ago
Reply to  Lynn H

yeah so. and there is the black girl that went on dr. phil and she identifies as white

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
4 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

Yeah, so……

Black Rifles Matter
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Black Rifles Matter
4 years ago
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Well, we kind of did the Africans a favor when we brought them over on the ships. They’d still be over there in Africa hunting with sticks killing each other. I bet the ones that are still over there starving and fighting civil wars, wish their families had been brought over as slaves hundreds of years ago so they could be free Americans now days. History is never candy and roses, but it is History. I know I will take a lot of backlash if Kym even posts this comment, but hey, I’m good with it. I have friends if African decent here in the states that feel the same way. America is the land of opportunity, even if there is still racial oppression going on. They would still tell you that this is the greatest country on earth. Racism is never going to go away people. It is part of life. Just like stereotyping and judging will never go away.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Free labor for 150 years was such a burden to the white man.

Being allowed to lynch and hang blacks separated from their families for not saying “yes, master” enough times a day was so nice of us.

What a favor!

Totally see your points.

Thirdeye
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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

One thing that gets left out of the narrative of the slave trade is that the Atlantic slave trade was only a relatively small part of the overall slave trade. Tribal rivals had been capturing and enslaving each other in west Africa for centuries, if not millennia (that still goes on in parts of Africa). The Ottoman Turks were the first external partners in the African slave trade, long before western Europeans got involved. The Ottomans wanted males to work to death and females for concubines. The Ottoman male slaves suffered greatly; the march across the Sahara resulted in much higher mortality than did the transatlantic crossing.

Slaves in the Americas fared better than the ones in Africa and the Ottoman Empire, not from any great humanitarian consideration but from the economic calculations driven by the costs of the Atlantic trade, which allowed slaves to reproduce and form somewhat coherent family and social life. In the French and British sugar colonies, the social needs of overseers in those lonely outposts resulted in greater socialization between masters and slaves, and some descendants of slaves became slave owners, like Kamala Harris’ ancestors.

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b.
4 years ago
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The Rwandan Genocide is was instigated by the CIA in order to ensure “friendly” government that would neither be able to protect the environment nor negotiate a fair price for the rare earth elements that cheaply fuel computer technology and solar power. The same destabilization games are happening in the Congo. I’m typing this with the soil and mineral wealth and blood of the people of central Africa beneath my hands.

This was an extension of the UN “peace keeping” that assassinated community leaders, attacked communities and battled independent rebels when the Congo was liberated in the early sixties. All of the western intelligence services were there directing the assassinations and providing other support. The mineral wealth had to keep coming.

This was an extension of King Leopold’s war (the peaceful Belgians) in which 5 million people were killed to facilitate gold and other precious metal extraction and build a railroad with slave labor.

It’s the same shit show with a different price of admission.

Yahhh Mon!
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Yahhh Mon!
4 years ago

If you ever go to Jamaica I would suggest you keep you ignorant opinions on slavery to yourself.

Dan
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Dan
4 years ago

WOW. Why do you think Africa is in turmoil? Can you say Imperialism? You really should learn a bit of history before you start using it to spew your BS.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
4 years ago
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Many causes, with or without the influence of European imperialism. European control of western and central Africa was limited by diseases such as malaria, that afflicted Europeans much worse than Africans. The life expectancy of a European in that environment was a couple of years at best.

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b.
4 years ago
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The control was limited, the destruction not so much so. Shell Oil in Nigeria. CIA instigating the Rwandan Genocide and the Congo wars.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
4 years ago
Reply to  Dan

The Katanga massacre and the Rwandan genocide were homegrown brutality. Western powers were criticized in both cases for not exerting enough control.

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b.
4 years ago
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The Rwandan Genocide was set off by the assassination of its president. There is ample evidence that one of the main actors in the assassination was and is a CIA stooge and that he was given the go ahead( and the missiles that shot down the president’s Plane) by the CIA.
It is both sad and somewhat relieving to note that the CIA analysts and eyes on the ground warned everyone in the decision making process that the situation was unstable and would likely result in widespread violence and even mass murder. The US (and the French) stayed involved through their support of Paul Kagame who invaded Rwanda but did not quell the genocide.
The public handwringing in the US press about whether to intervene merely covered up US complicity. The underlying justification in the handwringing was that Central Africa was really far away, primitive and scary. . . and because you might have trouble finding Rwanda on a map, the US military wouldn’t be able to get there.
I wouldn’t have wanted the CIA to justify sending more armaments there but they did know where it was and they did know what was happening.
Some beginning reading: http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_71589.shtml

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b.
4 years ago
Reply to  Dan

Please also read up on King Leopold’s War (5 million killed) and the research the UN “Peacekeeping” mission in the Congo in the early 60’s.
Or don’t; its the same old same old. If you know about the Chilean Junta or Somoza in Nicaragua or Lon Nol in Cambodia you already have the picture.

Guest
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Guest
4 years ago

Slavery by definition is the elimination of a human to defend themselves from people who are in turn protected when they choose to act in the worst ways a human can act. It is an unmitigated evil that can’t be rationalized away by fantastical thinking.

The virtue of the US resides expanding the Consitutional protections to the most of its law abiding citizens as possible. Never in rationalizations as to failing to do it. It disrespects those who have risked their lives to defend the Constitution to trivialize the difficulty of effort.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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Yeezus, were waiting for you to back up one of two claims from yesterday.

Do you think you’re to be taken seriously until you confirm or retract your claims?

Guest
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4 years ago
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You think that it is important to anyone that you total up posts, when you have no idea who posted what, in order render judgement on someone who doesn’t exist except in your mind?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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That’s the safety of “Guest” posts.

Quite impossible for real discussions when they can duck out so easily of making claims.

Hmm. Which Guest was it….If only the vernacular was a giveaway.

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
4 years ago

Oh, humboldt… hard to deny our label as the Appalachia of the west… thanks black rifles matter. (Slow clap)

Black Rifles Matter
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Black Rifles Matter
4 years ago
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You bet. That’s what I’m here for WC. Thanks for the history lesson Kym. The pictures you attached of kunta kinte’s whip lashings was a cool picture. I enjoyed the discussion with all of you level headed intelligent folks. Carry on.

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SmallFry
4 years ago

Blk Riffles…Slavery and Genocide are painfully true and ugly chapters in the American History book.. It maybe true that America is a great Nation and many want to come here to better thier life..and seek better opportunities.. That doesn’t mean that the History of Oppression should be shrugged off and forgotten..

Many forget or blindly will not acknowlede that Much of The wealth and Bounty of the modern world today comes thru the avenue of explploitation, …. Not only throughout the world, but also on this Contintinent… IE Pipelines thru Waterways, and Pollution Coal Mining on reservations.. ect…

Denying the bowels of history will not change it’s rotten stench.. nor lighten its load…
However It is the past, and it’s healthy to digest and move forward.. the only way to heal the past is thru a better future.. that’s what I put my money on..

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4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Insane, as-if… The audacity of European immigrants in America shows serious metal health issues.

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JustWantToHeartheEndoftheStory
4 years ago

“multiracial, 16-year old male” Did everyone read that line? From some of the comments, no, you didn’t. Kid is messed up, he needs help coming to terms with his own identity.

tax payer
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tax payer
4 years ago

and is he connected with the facebook page?

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

~i read the comments first. The article, not so much. Thaddeus, nope.

Coming to terms with one’s identity is a big order, much in need.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Why comment if you dont read articles.

Oh, because you’re just here to get click revenue for debunked quacks.

The people who give you a platform to post your bullshit and documented lies here work hard….

A lot harder than you, obviously.

Show some respect once in a while.

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Yeah,sure
4 years ago
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I don’t know, seems to me CHC works awfully hard on the computer chasing every rabbit down every rabbit hole. All of that “research ” takes time. A lot of time. Who has that kind of time, unless you’re a journalist or something. Seriously, just checking in on this site, loco and IG takes up WAY TOO MUCH of my time and I cringe about it every day. I see how Alex Jones lost his mind…..

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~fortunate for you, i’ve been to the bottom of the rabbit hole many times, danced with the Devil to tease out the truth in the details, and am willing to share what i found there.

After viewing a recent clip, suggested by another awake commenter, Mistah Jones is alive and well. He tells of the ten+ places on planet Earth where radiation is forbidden (for the inbred elite).

“A wise man speaks because he has something to say, a fool because he has to say something.” –Plato

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Yeah, sure
4 years ago
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Mr Jones is absolutely NOT alive and well. I actually read the infowars site in the 90s, he was on the edge then. I’ve witnessed his slow decent into conspiracy dementia. People are so sick of his bullshit that he’s getting sued. I hope he gets sued into oblivion.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~he won his case.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

No, he didnt.

He had to claim psychosis, retract lies about Sandy Hook, his finances are open in discovery….

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4 years ago
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Central

Your reference last month on the imminent collapse of the Oroville Dam proved inaccurate Somewhat related to the mess that is actually going on there, I think your conspiracy mania reduces your critical thinking.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  b.

The people who HumCo link to make money by addictions to fear.

Its beyond rabbit hole.

Its addiction.

The people who make money from HumCos addiction are telling HumCo and others that collapse of all things is imminent.

They have said this for 40 years.

And what HumCo doesn’t realise, is the people who make money from the addictions of fear, already have the next 5 weeks of videos made regarding “tomorrows” collapse.

“I don’t know if [the earth is round], and I don’t really care. I’m more concerned about survival.” -HumCo, 2 years ago.

Look like “survival” means posting propaganda links promoting fear, and tons of civil war mumbo jumbo.

shak
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shak
4 years ago
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I watched a video not too long ago, of the good guys stopping the bad guys. Maybe the dam’s demise was also diverted, we don’t know.
One of the scenarios’ highlighted in the video, was how the bad guys were draining the rivers into tanker trucks. (that doesn’t sound too far fetched). The tanks would dump them into underground reservoirs. (that doesn’t sound too far fetched either). BUT, this part sounds cray cray, but I’ll post it anyway. Supposedly, the bad guys planned on refilling the tanker trucks from the reservoirs and dumping them quickly (convoy?) into the strategically weakened dams, so that the sudden extra water during a heavy rain would collapse the dam. The good guys blew up the underground entrances on ‘action’ day, which foiled their plans and soiled their pants.
Will we ever know the real truths?
All we can really know, at this point, is that the good guys do seem to have the ball at the 50′ yard line now.
But, yes, I agree, one must always remain open to further data input. Firm conclusions create closed minds.

(I’ve been having fun trying to catch up with space force and other techie news, which can lead one down some very fascinating lanes (rabbit holes?).

What if time is in a spiral coil and the bad guys are trying to collapse the number 7 that lines up coil after coil, erasing all history of the good guys. What if the good guys caught on to this and created a non-collapsible coil? How in the world can they do this? They can’t. Only the Creator can. Nothing is impossible …

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4 years ago
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No, that wasn’t the story. The Oroville Dam is a huge piece of failing technology and Central’s link said that it’s normal operation was once again on the brink of disaster. It was about failed engineering and dishonest public relations– a normal Bhopal chemical disaster, Fukushima Nuclear meltdown, Teton Dam breaking, Hoover Dam near disintegration, Boeing 737 Max crashing, Three Mile Island “near” meltdown, Tacoma Narrows bridge whipping, Exxon Valdez wrecking, Deepwater Horizon blowout scenario. I believe in bad engineering and lying PR folks “hoping for the best.” I’ve experienced both in real time in real life. Sure, every once in a while someone ‘burns the reichstag” or sends a commercial jetliner full of people and loaded with spy equipment over North Korea or fills their embassy with people who direct the assassinations of religious leaders. But those are not elegant conspiracies.
Central’s link was to an article that referenced a little bit of actual math and hydrology and engineering failure. It could have happened. . . but it didn’t. And there’s no follow up link lauding the clever engineers that saved the little town of Marysville, because even though there’s all sorts malfeasance going on at Oroville, Central’s disaster scenario was just a scary story.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~you don’t believe that malfeasance (maxed at this point in time), is scary?

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b.
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

I totally believe that engineering malfeasance is scary. It’s just that it is usually a slow moving disaster. They may even have to come up with a cover story or wait until they can get a disaster declaration to “get help”– which often involves some brinksmanship, trying to let it get pretty bad but not too bad and then blaming the cost on the weather.
However, the article you referenced painted a scenario in which the spring snow melt would overwhelm the failing engineering. When my predictions fail I look at why. If I follow Brian’s understanding of your posts, I would suppose that you are just drumming up marks for con artists making money off of fear mongering. I’m assuming otherwise. If you don’t go back and clean up failed predictions I wonder why. I guess that either your ideals lead you to believe that the current system is causing disasters and any scenario that confirms your ideals is accepted uncritically, or that your shame at being “wrong” keeps you from benefiting from looking back to learn from negative results. That’s my guess from reading many of your comments.
A little nugget: during the Oroville Dam crisis, a retired Corps of Engineers engineer was being interviewed live on Capital Public Radio (which was being carried by KCHO, Chico). He said that, yes they had tried a stress test on one of those “emergency spillways” of natural material, just like the emergency spillway on the Oroville Dam. The host asked what the result had been. The answer was that they had to stop the test 10% into the planned test because it was eroding the spillway very quickly and would have destroyed the dam.
Meanwhile the talking heads were all saying and the engineers were all preparing to SAVE the Oroville dam by activating the emergency spillway. “What could possibly go wrong?”

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shak
4 years ago
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B., I missed that part of the video and or post. I’m really happy the scenario failed. Worthy of a Carlson Happy Dance.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  shak

“Nothing is impossible .. . ” If you have faith no bigger than a mustard seed . . .

I can’t remember if i posted a link to ‘Contact and the Cosmos’ by Dr. Stephen Greer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF-Ukucii20 1 hr. September 2018. I think it’s in three parts. If you don’t watch them in order what he explains gets harder to follow. Lots above my head.

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4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

CH, Dr. Stephen Greer’s video is uncanny to me, because his first video (I haven’t yet watched the following ones), covers a lot of the same material I’ve heard from others. It appears it’s true that technology is 1000 techo years ahead of consumer techo.
Take away the ‘alien’ rhetoric and William Tompkins and David Adair’s recounts seem to be spot on.
I can’t wait to finish watching the Greer series.
(btw, David’s best video’s seem to be hard to find on YT anymore. Maybe bitchute or other still have some up).

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~i figured you were aware of the technology he talks about. I love how the fact-holders step-up to the plate over, and over and over, everywhere, about the ground zero desolate desperate despair we find ourselves in. The grotesque pieces fit. The truth shall be revealed. Nothing will be concealed. (listening to Dane in the background – brings me to tears).

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4 years ago
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Talk about synchronicity, last night I tuned into a chat that was reading an article (dam, it was a long article), that mentioned Dr. Greer. https://www.neonrevolt.com/2019/06/28/majestic-12-the-secret-space-program-and-the-wilson-memo-deeper-disclosures-with-neonrevolt-qanon-greatawakening/

For the most part, I trust the King of FOIA of all things woowoo. This interview is pretty much where I stand…. accept all info, but believe in none, because more data/info is always just around the corner. So, I try my damdest to set all things on the back burner, so that I’m never ‘shocked’ by the info that’s about to turn the corner. Anyway, it completely surprised me to hear them state that too, after 20 years of collecting the data they’ve collected with it’s potential of conclusion drawing. Here’s the interview that impressed me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9b56uuXMVA
They deserve awards if you ask me. I hope they never change.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~last month i posted something about Orville Dam collapse? I don’t doubt you, but could you refresh my memory? It may have been a link to YouTube that, i wouldn’t think could have had revealed a pending collapse date. idk.

I’ve posted plenty on confirmed conspiracy thru the ages. Would you like an encore?* For the lazy, don’t care or distracted who comment opinions w/out evidence for the claim, there’s no expectation on my part. >>>i don’t include parents or grandparents raising a family. That’s a full-time labor of love.

*you are aware that there wasn’t a moon landing, right? And there was a third building, Bldg. 7, that also collapsed at free-fall speed on September 11, 2001? And that “Paper is poverty . . . it is the ghost of money, and not money itself.” –Jefferson.

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4 years ago
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b. @ 12:06 am,

“If you don’t go back and clean up failed predictions I wonder why. I guess that either your ideals lead you to believe that the current system is causing disasters and any scenario that confirms your ideals is accepted uncritically, or that your shame at being “wrong” keeps you from benefiting from looking back to learn from negative results.”

~neither.

I do remember the video. There’s certainly more people who have been following the Oroville Dam collapse –and other dams for a along time. Oroville’s Dam failure was chocked-up to the State Water Board’s lack of maintenance. Just as we chock-up lack of road maintenance and repair to The County. The collapse of the Roman Empire took 200 years. Hmmm, right where we are w/U.S. Inc. I don’t think you’re seeing the over-all parts of the puzzle pieces coming together.

Deborah Tavares of Sebastopol has been at it for over ten years, as has Dane Wigington of Redding. This link is to Part 1 of 5 by Deborah Tavares. She talks about Oroville Dam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQsoAjSHVUQ&t=716s 34 mins. June 13. I don’t know which part of the five she talks about it. She, as does Dane, provide irrefutable evidence in their presentations.

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4 years ago

LMFAO!! America, one of the only countries in the world that’s ready to piss away all their rights for PC… As repugnant as white supremacist are, there is no law against racism or bigotry….

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4 years ago
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When combined with threats or violence, it can enhance the charges of a crime though.

It’s a fine line.

There are few shootings that dont involve signs that someone grew to be more radicalized over time.

This is a sign. This boy needs real deal help, he goes to school with your children.

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4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Most likely he’ll be targeted for black ops, and have a great time doing the government dirty work for the all the right reason.

People farming.

Like people who go to jail for thieving cars and come out jihadies.

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4 years ago
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It’s not against the law to own ammonia nitrate either, but when mixed with diesel fuel it becomes quite explosive… Are we now to arrest people for Thought crimes or crimes we may commit in the future?

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4 years ago
Reply to  THC

This boy wasn’t arrested.

However, if you find a rental truck loaded with fertilizer in front of a federal building…I bet there would be an investigation.

And that investigation may turn up no ammonia, and they may watch those folks who rented the truck for a while, without arresting them.

Sheesh
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4 years ago

You cant change how we feel and think.
You have allowed these divisions between us to widen.
We are no longer a single people.
Diversity has succeeded in dividing us.
I would not defend or come to the aid of most Californians today.
Cant wait for the total collapse of western civilization.
We will be fine up here with our seedstock, livestock and liberty.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Sheesh

Diversity has succeeded in dividing us.

Who is “us”?

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
4 years ago
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Sheesh is famous for his word salads.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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“We will be fine up here with our seedstock, livestock and liberty.”

~you’re kidding yourself.

Evil isn’t necessarily lateral.

Sid Vicious
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4 years ago
Reply to  Sheesh

I think everyone has been convicted in a court without due process or even a jury of their respective peers.

I think you have the right idea, but just hope that you are far enough away, and well enough armed to prevent the Hungry Zombies from getting close.

It’s playing with fire to hope for the collapse of any civilization given what people will do to survive…

Strategically positioned, fortified, and dug in

Sound like a good time to you…?

Maybe…?

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4 years ago
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Diversity is not divisive. WOW. How can you be so ignorant?

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TQM
4 years ago

Hopefully this turns into a positive wakeup call for the kid.

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Willow Creeker
4 years ago

Crawl back under your rock^

The Real Brian
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4 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

Something tells me Saxxun goes “full regalia” once in a while.

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Sleepy Alligator
4 years ago

I’m kinda feeling sick to my stomach but I must say that I agree with every comment posted here.

Joe dirt
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Joe dirt
4 years ago

a most agreeable alligator I just might rest my head on his tongue for a while and take a nap

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
4 years ago

Sleepy please stop taking that medication you’re on. Way too agreeable lately

BonnieBlue
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BonnieBlue
4 years ago

Anti-Semitic content included in that screed. Is that allowed, or did it just slip by? Kym?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago

 ..while the Constitution gives latitude to hate speech and offensive rhetoric, court decisions in the last century have carved out notable — though narrow — exceptions to free speech guarantees and authorized prosecution for language deemed to fall out of bounds.

Comments intended as specific and immediate threats brush up against those protections, regardless of a person’s race or religion. So do personal, face-to-face comments meant to incite imminent lawlessness, such as a riot.

A 1942 Supreme Court decision called Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire — which involved a Jehovah’s Witness who cursed at a city marshal, calling him a “damned fascist” — articulated a “fighting words” doctrine that restricted insults intended to provoke an “immediate breach of the peace.”

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/how-federal-law-draws-a-line-between-free-speech-and-hate-crimes

And hate speech preempts hate crimes, which carry stiffer sentences than their non-hating criminal counterparts.

Kinda of good to know this kid is going to be watched upon now.

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free speech will make you a criminal
4 years ago

(speech is free, the consequences are anything but free.)

A black principal, four white teens and the ‘senior prank’ that became a hate crime

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/local/teen-graffiti-hate-crime-divides-maryland-high-school/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4aac7765f7f8

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4 years ago

IT IS OKAY TO BE WHITE!

That is the message, and it is a good message!
What happened to this youth and how people are reacting to a simple message is disgusting.
These are not “White Supremacist” these are White Civil Rights Activists.
Everyone assumes its alright to condemn someone call them a nazi and then incite violence and hatred against them because of there perceived views. This is total nonsense.

We as a county do have a problem with how we treat white youth. Think of it, growing up in a liberal school system you are basically told that just because of your skin color you are responsible for hate, slavery, inequality and a whole list of social problems are all blamed on you because of your race.

How do you think white youth react to realizing that the liberal system is out to get them and wants to tear down your culture, identity and community values. Nothing about this is about hate or “supremacy”.

Whites just want to be treated fairly and judged by the content of there character and who they are.

Often it is too easy for them to feel alienated from liberal society and they feel that forming interest group or similar avenue are the appropriate path to trying to change the problem.

Listen to some of the comments calling for hate and death just because someone was presumed to be a “nazi”.
Even if these people were Nazis, nazis still have thoughts and feeling, freedom of expression and the right to live and speak there mind without being told they will be killed or hated for expressing there viewpoints.

The funny thing is most people do not understand the struggle that white people are facing and instead of trying to support these individuals and address the white civil rights issues of our time. They are yelled at and told they don’t matter and are not allowed to have an opinion outside of the mainstream.

Dumb liberals are literally loosing the modern day argument with there hate, anger and suppression of other voices.

White lives matter, White voices need to be heard. White people are your neighbors, your friends and your community members. Please stop the anti-white agenda and realize these are people just like everyone else who don’t want there identity and culture destroyed by globalists.

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4 years ago
Reply to  jojo

I am sure you would feel exactly the same way if the recruiting posters were for the Blank Panther party. It is OK to be white, it is not OK to be white and a complete asshole, like Trump and his racist followers.

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4 years ago
Reply to  jojo

Total agreement Jojo.

It seems to me the authorities inserted the term “white supremacist”. I don’t think anybody on here is that insensitive. Why do such an ugly thing?

There’s probably money in it. Call the Feds in, shuffle some papers and presto … the trained killers and helicopters spring into action. Maybe no helo but the money spigot still gets opened. And the outsiders roll-in.

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Rod Gass
4 years ago
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In further support of Jojo’s comment about “it’s ok to be white”.

Refer back to the Covington School boys who were demonized for being white. Conclusions were created and mistakes were made. I wonder what those young men feel towards aggressive, destructive minorities now?

The Real Brian
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4 years ago
Reply to  jojo

Nazis were rightfully killed by most of all our American grandfathers in WW2.

The ones that lived were put to trial, unless their cowardly punk asses escaped into South America or elsewhere.

Go ahead, try to become popular again.

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Yeah,sure
4 years ago
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Jojo isn’t that blonde in the picture. Jojo is the same old commenter/Trumper/Altrighter that has graced this and locos sites for years. The tell is he can’t ever resist agreeing with himself, always trying to create the illusion that there’s a lot of people that agree with his Altright bs. It is and always will be the most pathetic display of immaturity .

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Willow Creeker
4 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Yes Jojo is a 40-something dude from Fortuna who’s parents were mad at him for growing weed so went legal.

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4 years ago
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He only says a lot of people agree with his views because a lot of people agree with his views. Communist pinko leftists need to realize there are more views in the world than theirs. Hitler did his best to avoid war, but Winston Churchill said the Brits would force war upon him whether of not he wanted it.

Just another War pushed by Jewish bankers to kill the best of the Goyim like the Talmud directs.

Please remember war was declared on Germany LONG before anti Jewish sentiment rose in Germany.

Now they’re trying to do it to Iran as well. Then comes Russia and China for their smarmy selves. Think they won’t get American nuked in the process, guess again because they want us nuked so Chabad can enforce the the Noahide Laws and cut off the heads of Christians as mandated. They had put on the books by their bought and paid for slave HW Bush when he was Temple leader, I mean President. The whole Bush family have always been ‘Hebreaists’ . In other words, Shabbos goyim.

It’s time Jews stepped way back from running our country and our foreign policy. They have an agenda and it’s very ugly, and anti America.

Benjamin Netanyahu explained how he want’s America destroyed and why in his Fink’s Bar Diatribe, yet our Congress still invites him to address them and gives him standing ovations, calls Israel ‘our greatest ally’.

What a lie.

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4 years ago
Reply to  Hawk

Kym,
I think this guy is a professional Neo-Nazi who wishes to take us all “down the rabbit hole.”
I’ve got my problems with the accepted narratives about World War II. I certainly have problems with Churchill (who was a war-monger extraordinaire and could and perhaps did engage in murderous conspiracies of all kinds during both World wars and in between). I’m anti-Zionist (for religious and theological reasons which amplify my humanitarian reasons) and appalled at the actions of the state of Israel. My thoughts on the meaning of the Holocaust are strongly informed by the experiences and research of an anti-Zionist Dutch Jewish nurse- an elder of mine- who rode out the mass murder of much of her community in a Japanese Prisoner of War camp in Indonesia. She was the strongest anti-Zionist I ever encountered. I think the international banking system and most of its wealthy leadership (some of whom are Jewish) are a suck on the wealth and well-being of the underclass and working-class of all religions, genders, and ethnicities. These are important perspectives in my understanding of the current system but I don’t usually put them out in a bunch. I have seen where they lead if not taken with skepticism and applied with a lot of thought and compassion. Rage at injustice, especially if alloyed with a lack of self awareness and self critique, can lead to particularly vile forms of oppressive behavior.
I think this blatant Neo-Nazi activist jumping in to this stream and equating the angst of the white men who fear critique of their assumed privileges (and an occasional white woman) to his brand of “defending white people” proves the value of open discussion. I hope his adoption of their cause makes them queasy enough to question where some of their information is coming from and where some of their logic and ideals might be taking them. This also reminds me to watch out when I equate white privilege with white supremacist ideology or Nazism. They are not the same thing.
If this were my forum, I think I’d ban this guy. His brand of hate is making me too sick to do what I would like to do, take apart his errors and refute his nonsense. I hope that you and Brian can keep up with it or that some of the honest defenders of white privilege will take him on.

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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym,

I’m amazed and humbled.

You have rightfully deleted some of my responses to Hawk, as I dont try to do much logical in response to no-logic.

Your amazing.

Thanks for moderating me and others. Sorry for taking your time. Keep up the great work.

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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Mmmm.. potato chips.. good one! Lol.. A little popcorn on the side.. some chocolate chunks? it works.. Some Avacado Toast??
Avacado Toast is actually pretty good! And guacamole.. It helps.. Late night munchies.. at its finest.. lol..

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b.
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Thank you. This is a tough one.

Don't worry, be happy
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Don't worry, be happy
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

So no one should take the comments about the end of the evil white power when the demographics are changed through illegal immigration as serious threats as to white people? I mean no one should assume that comments, no matter how hateful, no matter how tolerated in the media, about how evil white people are will ever actually ACTED on once they are a minority.

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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Organizing coalitions is not possible from hatred. As if that isn’t clear from the low level of respect currently in society. And no, that was not my point at all.

It is such a straight forward idea. If an act or words are repugnant for one, they are repugnant for all. That is a principle worth holding as it is the only thing that will protect everyone all the time. Choosing to tolerate or even promote abusive actions or words from one person or group because of the sympthetic history of the group will always end up in a seesaw of abuse. Then on top, revenge is extacted. When on bottom, revenge is received. Back and forth until death of one or more likely both. If there is a survivor, they then proceed to find the next enemy because that is what has rewarded them previously.

Therefore, if you truly find racist word intolerable, then all racists words should be intolerable. No weaselling about who offers them. No letting sympathy for one and disgust for the other decide. Even if you think one group has a right to anger or the other has not, there should be no tolerance for evil. Otherwise blood feuds then become the active principle. Just like what has gone on throughout history with gore galore. It’s why the symbols of justice is blindfolded even if it fails to live up to its promise.

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tax payer
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

most of the media is fake news

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Dang… I need sunglasses to even look at that coment pic.. I feel as tho I had a flashlight shined in my eyes.. Especially the Republican pic…

Roe
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Roe
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

“ the vast majority are still white “

That’s because the majority of the country is 72.4 percent white . Show me what nations ruling class doesn’t reflect the majority’s race?
How many white people are in government in India? Mexico? Saudi Arabia ? Pakistan? How about China or Japan ?

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Thirdeye
4 years ago
Reply to  Roe

The power structures of India, Mexico (and other Latin American countries), Saudi Arabia, and China do not reflect the ethnic compositions of those nations.

India is a multi-ethnic country that has always been dominated by one caste of Caucasians and their power structure reflects that. The caste system enshrined in Hindu assured their dominance. It was legally disbanded, but it still dominates their culture.

Mexico is an ethnically divided country and its power structure is overwhelmingly dominated by the Euro-Caucasian caste that has always ruled it. The same is true throughout Latin America, most starkly illustrated by Brazil.

Saudi Arabia is ruled by a tribal power that does not reflect the majority of its residents. The ruling caste has a real dilemma in finding the manpower for their desired military strength without creating an armed group that could threaten their power. They are heavily dependent on mercenaries.

Han Chinese are the dominant ethnicity in China, but there are significant national minorities. The power structure is predominantly Han. Manchu, Uyghur, and Tibetans were driven to the margins by political conflicts dating back to the 1910 Revolution. The Nationalist ideology of the Kuomintang was in opposition to the Manchu ruling class of the Q’ing Dynasty, who the Nationalists regarded as foreign usurpers. The collaboration of the old Q’ing power structure with the Japanese in Manchuria during 1930-1945 worked against trust between the Manchu and the Communists.

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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

It is so frustrating to be talking to those who just won’t hear. You are not talking to the members of this white supremacist group. Confine your outrage to those few who align with their goals and stop assuming that someone who finds an objection to your opinion somehow must agree with them. There is more than one thing going on here. It is possible to object at the same time to what you say AND what they say.

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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

At some point Kym, I don’t think race, gender, culture really matters when it comes to the daily business of running a country, when the entrenched powers. …aka deep state, and the money lenders, holds the tightest grip on the levers of power.

We all need to understand that the color of skin, or your gender, or the language you say “I love you”,to your family, is irrelevant in that context.

The people in key positions only see power and wealth as the keys to entering the managing class.

G. EDWARD Griffin has an interesting lecture on the “rings of power”

https://youtu.be/uzMKO56E5Ak

Neo Feudalism is interesting concept.

I always like to share Michael Franti’s quote

“it’s not who you love,
but Do you love”

Cheers

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

Dont conflate Griffin with Franti, please.

Griffin is a con taking money

Franti is all heart.

tax payer
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tax payer
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

i said fake. doesnt matter the race because that is racist. see what i did there

shak
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shak
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Well that certainly explains why slavery never ended, why women never got the right to vote or work, why the handicapped never got govt ‘businesses’ to install handicap friendly everything, why gay comedians can never be on TV, why we’ll never see black women holding the richest women titles, why minorities like Native Americans can never be on TV, and why every policy that ever comes out of DC excludes any and all ‘minorities’ and worse yet, still will not allow any minority run for office.
Thanks for the enlightenment.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

If only I could find a politician who thinks like me… I don’t really care what she looks like.

Dan
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Dan
4 years ago
Reply to  jojo

WHITE STRUGGLE?! Are you kidding? The is no demographic data to suggest whites are struggling compared to minorities in the US. FACTS MATTER! although since you called out liberals I assume you are a conservative sociopath and everyone knows facts are not your friend.

Guest
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4 years ago
Reply to  Dan

Appalachia. Rural people in many different locations such as upper Michigan or Wisconsin. Cajuns. Many religious groups.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Unrepresented again. What is the median income of a heathen?

Guest
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4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

And I listen:

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Yeah, those “good people” in North Carolina were fighting for Cajun rights….

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Thanks for the effort, but my brand of heathen is not on the list. Not many Taoist Ullr worshipers around… maybe I am the median…

Guest
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4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Agnostic

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

More gnostic than agnostic.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
4 years ago
Reply to  jojo

I love my American culture and identity, and a lot of it came from nonwhites. [edit]

shak
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shak
4 years ago
Reply to  jojo

Wow, Jo Jo, well said!

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  shak

It’s such a struggle, I’m permitted to grow dope in the Wealthiest State of the Nation….

Boo hooooo, I’m white and Sean “Russian Bot” Hannity says I’m under attack.

Waaaaa. I’m white and I forgot my white ancestors killed white Nazi scum for a good reason.

Waaaaa, I’m so oppressed. I spread lies about lasers and Columbine butt raping conspiracies, all fucking day. Waaaaaa

Boo hoooo, oh, waaaaa. The old days of free slave labor was fair and just. Waaaaaa.

Waaaaaa, we did slaves and Indians a favor, why dont they understand..waaaaaaa

Waaaaa, the big white planning Dept. Charged me “30,000 to get permitted ” and I make a struggling “100k” a year…waaaaaa

WAA, WAA, WAA

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

AnD…. It’s still not okay to be an Asshat.. Generally speaking…

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4 years ago
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In an honest and reasonable world, your right.

But this isn’t that.

This is a lying asshats paradise with Shak, Humco and others.

I fight fire with fire.

So I asshat valid statements in response.

I was patient with their lies 2 years ago. Theres no need to be nice anymore.

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4 years ago
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Except you’re fighting a fire in a barbecue with a flamer thrower aimed at the cook. Has anyone ever been persuaded to any extreme position that they did not already hold by comments? Has anyone who came with extreme positions ever changed them because of frenetic insults in return? Has such insult exchanges done anything more than add fuel to the fire?

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4 years ago
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Ok

Hawk
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4 years ago
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Yep, because Jewish bankers and Communist Internationalists wanted the excellent German people exterminated and Germany dead.

They’re still trying.

Ever read, ‘Germany Must Perish’? Now there’s what Whites are still fighting against. And the same folks are still trying to destroy
Germany, this time by flooding it with hostile Arabs and African blacks.

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4 years ago
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Thanks jojo. I agree. For some reason they want us to be ashamed of our skin color and lift others up because of theirs. It’s ok and “pc” to see “native pride” stickers or brown pride stickers on cars, which I have no problem with. We each should all be proud of our race whatever it may be. but a guy proud to be white is deemed a racist. It just seems double standard to me is all. I’m sure I will get another lecture about my ignorance or some cute pictures posted of slaves to try and shame me but carry on.

The Real Brian
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4 years ago

They never told you to be ashamed.

Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson are just making you ignorant.

White power is self-evident in the US and beyond.

Committing genocide on Natives and using blacks for 200 years of free labor wasn’t good enough?

Anywhere you visit in the world the locals speak English, for you.

Now you want a sticker too?

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4 years ago

Food for thought BRM. I’m going to go out on a limb for you. I understand what your saying and why. I’ve been the only white or mixed person in the room many times and sometimes just had to bear someone’s prejudice against me because of that. It’s not always comfortable, it can be very stressful at times. There isn’t much a white person can say. To say “I’m proud to be white” means “I’m better than you” to many people because of all the crap they’ve heard. That’s just not going to change any time soon. It’s just a fact.

I tolerate some stuff because I know that the people doing that to me have had that done to them. Usually in worse ways. People do unto others as has been done to them. If I don’t play into that game I not only keep my pride in myself but eventually the world gets to be a better place and maybe someday no one will have to go through that.

Everyone in this country is learning about race right now. Everyone- I don’t care who you are. It’s endlessly complex. It’s painful for anyone who cares about anybody. Anyone. But if you can keep your fear and hesitation in it’s place, & have some common empathy, it’s also endlessly interesting and will make you wise. You don’t have to be anyone but yourself. just do it well- be real and be proud of yourself as a person. And make some friends in the process.

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4 years ago
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Thanks Kym, but it has nothing to do with kindness. I really do understand some of where BRM is coming from. PC can often be counterproductive and a real PITA. It’s just a life tip.

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4 years ago
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When has expressing hate ever lead to anything more hate? When has insult ever lead to less insult? When has revenge ever lead to mutual respect? Supporting racism by redefining it to allow it to be acceptable if one race does it but not the other is propaganda to support racism, not a cure.

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4 years ago
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Racism defined:

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.

Many of you commenting are having a hard time understanding the difference between black empowerment of the 1960’s vs. calling for white power marches today.

It is racist, from a documented racist group, calling for new racist youth idealism.

It’s disgusting. It was posted next to a picture of a murdered black youth in your community.

The insensitive nature of many comments and the need to be calling for white equality is disturbing.

No one is calling for racism, or racism “redefined”, by acknowledging the differences of being white anytime in the last 250 years vs. Not.

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4 years ago
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“Brothers above all others.” Racist and sexist

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4 years ago
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JoJo, I so agree with you! What a breath of fresh air to read what you`ve written.

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4 years ago

A round of applause for JOJO, well done.

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Yeah, a round of applause for a not so subtle pitch for poor oppressed whites. Oh, the struggle is real, I mean, when I’m shopping and a Mexican family gets out of my way and apologizes when they had every right to be there as me, well god damn it, why are they making my white ass feel guilty? I struggle every day. It’s a burden I must bear for being white. Poor me. Poor poor me. My Whiteness is an albatross that weighs me down. Oh dear god, why was I born with this affliction? I ask myself that every day. Yes, the struggle is real…….

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4 years ago

Aren’t most caucasian people born in the United Staes of a mixed heritage/nationality? How many white people can say they are of one blood line?

TDS
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4 years ago

A young jussie smollett!!! How sweet!!!

One must ponder
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4 years ago

I stand up for and seek equality for all races/genders, as all people should.
However i would never self sabotage based on a dogmatic concept like white privilege. Much of the speak around this subject has very toxic undertones and i do not trust the intention of many who push this concept. The answer is simple.. do not hold bias against anyone for anything other than ones character. Learn to analyze why you feel the way you do and make sure that you are applying fairness to the situation.

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4 years ago

Perhaps the wisest comment in this whole thread. Whites are not stuck with a binary choice between tribal “pride” and self-abasement and shame based on the illusion of white privilege. Yes, an illusion. The top levels of power and privilege in this country are overwhelmingly dominated by whites, but that power and privilege does not magically trickle down to most whites. When that model of ethnic power and privilege is extrapolated to its logical conclusion with further subdividing, it is seen as something very dark.

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4 years ago
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Yes. Definitely. Although a little of that privilege does trickle down. Or rather, we don’t usually have to wonder about some random person beating us up or not hiring us because of the color of our skin. I’m not if sure that’s a “privilege”… I think that should just be a given for everyone. But it really isn’t for many people. It certainly gives a different reality to many people’s lives.

I don’t think feeling weird or guilty about that fact helps anyone with good intentions. But understanding it and hoping to change it helps everyone.

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4 years ago
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Not usually, but such things do happen in certain situations and when they do, certain people seek to excuse them based on historical grievances. But you are right that enjoying certain basic human rights is not a privilege. The extra entitlements of privilege are more related to socioeconomic class than anything else.

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4 years ago
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” The extra entitlements of privilege are more related to socioeconomic class than anything else.”

Yup

“Not usually, but such things do happen in certain situations and when they do, certain people seek to excuse them based on historical grievances.”

You completely lost me there. I think you inverted what I said. Anyways, these things happen Now. All the time. Not just historically.

Sorry this is days later- was out of town.

Lynn H
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4 years ago

yes

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4 years ago

One must Ponder,well said! I couldn’t agree more.
But, I must say, it’s hilarious to watch the kiddies play the ‘who’s the most victimized’ boasting game. If that’s all they have to fight about, we’ve come a long way baby.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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shak, and the rest in here who breath:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs1RxwWO1xM&feature=em-uploademail #205 July 13, 2019

~acknowledge the truth.

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4 years ago

The dangerous belief that white people are under attack

In August, the Justice Department decided to investigate instances of bias against whites in university admissions. Since then, campuses have been flyered with “It’s okay to be white,” and in November, violence erupted at the University of Connecticut during a speech about discrimination against whites.

Are white people actually under attack?

After all, in the U.S., whites have historically been viewed as perpetrators of bias, and racial minorities as the victims.

But perceptions of this relationship have shifted. According to a recent survey, the majority of whites – 55 percent – now believe that whites experience racial discrimination.

What’s more, whites believe bias against their group is increasing, while believing bias against blacks is declining.

What’s behind this dramatic change in attitudes?

Research from my lab and others has found that social changes are a big reason. We’ve also found that these perceptions of bias – despite not being grounded in reality – can have real consequences.

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The slippery slope of whites feeling victimized

My other research with psychologist Joseph Wellman suggests that this phenomenon isn’t benign. It leads some to adopt perspectives that could, ultimately, exacerbate social inequity.

For whites who are particularly eager to maintain the racial social order, the idea of anti-white bias is particularly alarming. It implies that the entire social system is unstable, and they are eager to restore it.

These people might attempt to “reestablish” the group’s position because they believe it has been damaged.

This could play out in a number of ways.

One way is through support for other white people who claim to be victims of racial discrimination. There’s a tendency to respond negatively to black people who claim to be victims of discrimination: People see them as complainers who use racism as an excuse for their shortcomings.

Read more at:

https://theconversation.com/amp/the-dangerous-belief-that-white-people-are-under-attack-88622

HOW WHITE IDENTITY SHAPES AMERICAN POLITICS

Now, even though people who are high in white identity don’t necessarily hold negative individual-level attitudes toward racial and ethnic minorities, they want to protect white privileges and dominance. That means they are doing so at the expense of other racial and ethnic groups.

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Most whites understand that they are afforded certain privileges—but they believe they have a right to them, and they don’t want to give them up. At the moment, they feel their privileges are under attack, [so] they begin to use the language racial and ethnic minorities have used, describing themselves as being under attack and victims of discrimination.

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White identity isn’t a constant force in American politics. It’s a force that arises when whites feel their status is being challenged. We see it today; we saw it back during the civil rights movement [in the 1960s]. And we saw it in the 1920s. The conversations politicians were having about immigration [in the 1920s] were so similar to those we’re having today. You had members of Congress saying we had to preserve the United States as “a white nation.”

https://psmag.com/ideas/how-white-identity-shapes-american-politics

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4 years ago
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That is only true if you believe that each race has a different agenda based on race. That one race holding a dominant demographic can not act to benefit anyone but itself. If that were so simple a truth, then race war is inevitable.

That article is riddled with assumptions and insults that have fueled university self aggrandizement for the last two decades- that “People who score high on white identity look a lot like other white people. They tend to own homes. They are not hurting economically. They’re not necessarily in blue-collar jobs.
They are, disproportionately, people who didn’t go to college. Lower levels of education are associated with higher levels of white identity. There is some association with living in a rural area with white identity, but it’s not especially strong.” In words that would sound horribly bigotted if not camouflaged in unnecessary volume, her allegation is that every Trump supporter is an ill educated white racist. Imagine the outrage if the word “black” was substituted for “white.” That would surely show the poverty of her thinking in a way that people would be too embarassed to repeat.

Personally I have never worked in an environment where so many people were so preoccupied with status and hierarchy as in the university while they were so protected from their own incompetence by a structure designed to more for their benefit than the students. It’s not an ivory tower of idealism but a crass bureaucracy run for the benefit and self perpetuation of itself.

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4 years ago

Whites are definitely under attack, and a concerted Marxist agenda has been formed against us. It’s hammered in nearly every institution of higher education these days. One need look no farther than ‘Red Square’ aka Humboldt State University, or College of the Redwoods to see that war on Whites underway.

I’ve sat in several classes where Jewish professors mewl at the top of their voices about how their lives changed when they realized all the problems in the world were due to ‘Evil White Men’. They go on and on about it unrestrained. I’ve heard White people demeaned in every way possible in classes in those two places. We’re supposed to sit silently and accept such pernicious rubbish to be God’s truth., or there will be and is Academic discipline and attempts to end our scholastic career and ban us from campus. I experience that myself.

It is at a point where Whites, and especially White male Veterans feel they have to ‘keep their heads down and stay silent or be driven from campus by the ‘Politically correct’ Marxist indoctrinated.

Yes, there is a world wide agenda to exterminate the White Race. We’re smarter than the ones wanting us off the planet, and they simply can’t have that as they attempt domination over the whole world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q90kmUbEv7c

That’s the spew Whites are faced with in our daily lives, in our work places, on the streets., world wide as the Kalergi plan is implemented to replace the White race not only in Europe, but in every predominately White land.

My own son had been turned down for two promotions because as his supervisors told him, ‘We had to hire a minority or a woman’. He later founded his own company to avoid Anti White discrimination and is working his way up the six figures.

I’d like to find the young man posting that flyer. I have $100 for him right now, and I’d like to know how his life is going. In the pro White movement, there are very few ‘White Supremacists’ believe me. Most are people aware of the war formed against us and seek to prevent our own destruction at the hands of the pernicious Jews who form the agenda against White Survival and implement it in subtle ways. Like take your property if you don’t move fast enough to please them in these Abatement cases. I know a local native American, a disabled vet, very little money, can barely walk, who these Abatement crew brow beat totally into promising topaying a fine he cannot afford. The agreement was signed under duress so it’s invalid, yet if the dance is not done correctly, it could lead to the loss of his property.

The Pro White movement is NOT founded in hate, it is founded in the celebration of our heritage and for our survival against a vicious enemy. It is founded in true Social Justice for everyone. God Bless the guy who posted the flyers.

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4 years ago
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The enemy is never one color, or one race, or religion.

It’s the people who are unified in their belief that chaos is the best way to keep humanity at each other’s throats.

It the only way to keep people who should be unified, divided into carefully managed groups.

Typically, the control of resources, is the most powerful means of keeping people fighting amongst themselves.

We are merely talking about symptoms of a larger problem.

This is where we can all agree…

Maybe?

Much love for the higher perspective!

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4 years ago
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Well said, Sid.

If the BS keeps up, it won’t surprise us at all when we’ll be seeing mandated logo shots for incubating babies, newborns, school age children, the work place worker, the homeless, …
Everyone must wear the Logo given to them by the dictators.

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4 years ago
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The vicious enemy is the Jewish agenda written into their religious books, their hatred of Gentiles is endemic and absolute. The Rabbis of the School of Shammai murdered many of the Rabbis of the school of Hillel to force the hatred of Gentiles into the Talmud.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillel_and_Shammai

Have you listened to the Temple Mount Rabbis talking about their plans for the extermination of everyone who will not accept the ‘Noahide Laws’ which in the eyes of them Christianity is idolatry that must be destroyed and it’s followers killed?

https://electronicintifada.net/content/video-temple-movement-rabbi-proselytizes-genocide/14870

The ‘Reformed Sandhedrin’ say they will kill those will not become Noahides and follow the Noahide Laws. President HW Bush signed the Noahide Laws in as Law of the Land here in America too. They’re not being enforced at this point in time, but hiding like a rattlesnake in a laundry basket waiting for when the ‘Noahides’ overthrow the US Government which they disclose their plans in the last few paragraphs:

http://www.noahide.com/finalwar.htm

It is alleged President Trump has converted to Judaism and joined Chabad Lubavitch as well. He’s already taken more than $46.6 million from one Zionist leader and his wife alone.

Both his daughter and son in law are already members of Chabad Lubavitch, the group who has made the evil plans to usurp America and the US Constitution spoken of in ‘The Final War for Jerusalem. Meanwhile Trump continues to fulfill the Zionist written document ‘Rebuilding America’s Defenses’ that calls for continual war on nations, including major wars with Russia and China. until there is no nation in the world that can oppose anything the US (read Zionist Israel) wants to do in the world.

Trump and Chabad may be deluded enough to think they can wage these wars with impunity. They will not. Inside the Chabad plan is a plan to have both Europe and the US destroyed as well, as the Zohar says they must destroy 70 Idolatrous nations before their Serpent Messiah

http://www.texemarrs.com/092012/holy_serpent_of_jews.htm

arrives. Europe is especially hated and must be destroyed due to Christianity existing in large numbers there as well. So they’re implementing the Kalergi plan to thin things down:

http://www.westernspring.co.uk/the-coudenhove-kalergi-plan-the-genocide-of-the-peoples-of-europe/
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The EU has been designed to be a large Zionist Federation from it’s inception, meaning absolute and total Jewish control over every aspect of life for the European countries and people. They intend that for the whole world.
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President Trump’s son in law and daughter are both Chabad Lubivitchers, who are moving slowly but constantly toward implementing Noahide control. When it gets to a high enough level, more will follow as we are taken into their repression. It’s alleged President Trump has converted to Judaism and joined Chabad Lubavitch too, so the Noahide take over is very near, or may have already happened.

I’ve written the DOJ about his, yet I’ve seen nothing happening that might indicate a correction of some kind.

Almost forgot your question about Jewish professors at HSU. I haven’t numbered them, I know Ronnie Schwatz is one of the top Marxists spewing White hatred. I now of other who have ranted White hate too. Often the majority of Sociology, Social work and the Psych departments are filled with largely Jewish professors in most colleges. That’s part of the nepotism they engage in.

It is not so much their Jewishness that’s important. It’s their Marxist/Jewish attacks on Whites and the world at large that count far more, as with all Jewish, including my nearly all Jewish family, it’s the person and what they really believe about life that’s important. It’s a sad and dangerous thing to know there’s an evil and vicious agenda also working within in the Tribe they claim to be part of. I don’t like thinking every Jew is my enemy, however true that might be.

Thank you for asking Kym, if you’d like to talk more I’m very willing.

Bless you !!

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4 years ago
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The Real Brian
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4 years ago
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Why is the Kalergi conspiracy false:

The “master plan” (Kalergi false theory) to create mixed ethnicities was hatched in early 1900’s.

The US, Europe, South America Central America and Asia all had met each other already!

The immigrant nation of the US had an open border policy, completely open, for 100 years before immigration laws were created circa 1820’s.

Mixed ethnicity children and families were happening well, well before 1900, before 1800 and before even more.

Indeed, even Kalergi was mixed ethnicity as his mother was Japanese.

The roots of the Pan European movement has more to do with;

“the only way of guarding against an eventual world hegemony by Russia.”

Why is there a conspiracy theory?

Nazi criticism and propaganda against Coudenhove-Kalergi, and his European worldview, would decades later form the basis of the racist Kalergi plan conspiracy theory.[26]

The conspiracy theory originated with Austrian neo-Nazi Gerd Honsik. According to Il Foglio, he began publishing works which distorted the writings of Coudenhove-Kalergi in the 1970s

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_von_Coudenhove-Kalergi

So logic says the plan doesn’t work because the reality of migration has been around….. for millions of years.

Mixed ethnicity families were not new by the Pan European movement era.

And your belief relies on out-of-context and highly edited YouTube videos, and the doctoring of Kalergis words from his book.

With that said, I’m going to relax.

Its movie night:

Inglorious Basterds is tonight’s pick!

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4 years ago
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Hawk. Do you have any lectures or a syllabus that would make your claims about a local professor spewing white hatred.

I’m sure you are looking at the same game plan that is getting used to divide up the people.

A statement, a video , something in his curriculum that would back up your claims. The left doesn’t have to back up its claims or even apologize for their own brand of racism.

Those who can hear, know that that things are definitely getting tense, and Ive seen the quiet weapons for silent wars do some damage to the ability for people to get along.

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4 years ago
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Your YouTube link is provocative.

It’s also clearly edited to be so.

So I looked into who it features. Not really my cup of tea, but that doesn’t make you right in your analysis regarding his ideology or intent.

https://chroniclevitae.com/news/1014-a-professor-tries-to-beat-back-a-news-spoof-that-won-t-go-away

Your also far off in saying that’s what “whites face everyday”. I’m white, and I’ve faced that language ZERO times in my life.

Your fear is evident with statements like “…defend our heritage from a vicious enemy”.

The Kalergi theory is bullshit, and it seems your picking up your information from extremist white nationalist publications.

The conspiracy theory originated with Austrian neo-Nazi Gerd Honsik. According to Il Foglio, he began publishing works which distorted the writings of Coudenhove-Kalergi in the 1970s.[6] Honsik’s controversial interpretations culminated in his 2005 book Kalergi Plan.[7] Investigative newspaper Linkiesta have described the Kalergi plan as a hoax which is comparable to the anti-semitic fabrication The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.[8]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalergi_plan

Hitler is dead. Long live diversity.

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4 years ago
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[Edit: Please review the commenting rules.]

Ignatiev ran a magazine ‘Race Traitor’ for years in which he preached hatred of Whites.

Oh the poor jews, neva done a bad thing eva.

We have his statements recorded for the most part. His writings are even more vile and vicious towards Whites.

We’re Amalek, Mitzvot 613. To be exterminated according to the rabbis. So is anything the pernicious jews want to do,
like have the US fight their wars of extermination around the globe. War is the harvest of the Jew, certain Rabbis brag of
starting nearly all the wars in the world to profit by selling arms to both sides of the conflict they started. They brag they
also profit by the killing out of Gentiles on both sides, giving Jews a greater percentage of world population.

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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Damn Kym, article 4 of the Kym-stitution…( your rules)

This isn’t adding anything and you know these racist cowards are not here to discuss anything intelligent, nor “add to your” site.

Good luck with the Storm ahead.

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4 years ago
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This is disgraceful and an affront to common decency. Cannot believe you allow this kind of vile hate but put delete comments you don’t like!

The Real Brian
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4 years ago
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Not really.

Infact its inviting insults and hate.

Its ridiculous, theres already NAZI websites to talk about the struggle for white survival.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~so noted, Sparkle Mahn.

After 7 months of being on the receiving side of “less interesting insults”, the only plus i have seen is that the commenters who object to such nonsense brings something up of great value.

Anyone in the Trinity area of u no who, warn our dark-skinned sisters to run away as fast as they can if invited to a Mexican restaurant.

Lynn H
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4 years ago
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Kym. So glad you’re being clear here…

He Knew He Was Right
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4 years ago
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Really? Then why do you never object egregious and exaggerated claims that this land was a paradise of peaceful civilization before the white man came in and ruined it? It’s not that someone says this but , like Brian says the opposite about me, you only object when a pro white person says something extreme but never object when it is done by or on behalf of a minority? Or a liberal to a lesser exten

Bigotry ought to be identified by its content, not by its political adherence. I don’t object that others should be called for defective thinking but that similar defective thinking should be ignored because it is in a congenial cause.

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4 years ago

Ok.

The “Urban Dictionary” online defines cracker as an ethnic slur.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cracker

Here’s an article regarding George Zimmerman from CNN that implies “cracker” is racist.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2013/07/01/us/zimmerman-trial-cracker/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

But as I’ve been saying, historical context matters.

“Redneck,” “cracker” and “white trash” are all terms created, or, in the case of “white trash,” popularized by wealthy white people to dehumanize white people living in poverty, particularly those who didn’t own land.

To the European aristocrats who traveled to Jamestown, Va., in the 1600s, impoverished white settlers, or “crackers,” some of whom would be their servants, were valuable solely for the labor they could provide—just like the captured Africans who arrived in Jamestown on the White Lion in 1619.

These arrivals included Anthony and Isabell, the parents of William Tucker, the first recorded “African American” in the colonies. Some white travelers also became indentured servants to pay for their passage to Jamestown.

Eventually, many of these “crackers” in Virginia would join forces with black people for what would become known as the Bacon Rebellion of 1676. This rebellion is notable for several reasons:

https://www.theroot.com/historicalcontextmatters-cracker-redneck-white-tr-1790856673/amp

And more to the point, why are so many of you talking about racism against whites, when the article is of a poster for white supremacy?

How can you not see how ugly it is?

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4 years ago
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Wikipedia is always edited by Jews to cover themselves. That’s a well known fact. Like they’re doing to the rest
of the net to keep certain views from being expressed. Youtube, Facebook, Google, Yahoo, They don’t hesitate to out right lie.
Lying to non Jews is authorized by the Talmud.

Wikipedia is worthless for anything political.

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4 years ago
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Thanks, you very much motivate me to ask a black woman out to dinner..I know a great Mexican restaurant.

After dinner, we will watch Schindlers list, twice.

Hopefully, in a year, I’ll show you pictures of our mixed ethnicity children….

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4 years ago
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How generous of you to think, even as passing for humor, that a black woman would find it agreeable to be used for you a symbol of your political superiority. No wonder black people are jaded. Objectified by the do-gooder and the do-badder alike to serve other than their own purposes.

The Real Brian
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4 years ago
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Yup.

What’s also generous is your ability to continue to push your liberal hatred on an article about white supremacy.

Guess were all a bunch of giving mfers.

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4 years ago
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“White youth!

The entire system hates you and wants to see out race dead.”

Change “white” for “black” and it wouldn’t be too far off from the rhetoric of Black Lives Matter. More about racial paranoia than anything else. Whoever is disseminating that poster probably are white supremacists, using racial paranoia to recruit for their cause. And there are of course different points of view about what feeds that sort of racial paranoia. Saying that there is nothing at all substantive behind it impedes the ability to muster an effective response.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
4 years ago
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Keep your head in the sand like that and your responses will continue to be ineffective.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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” The agreement was signed under duress so it’s invalid, yet if the dance is not done correctly, it could lead to the loss of his property. ”

~i hope your friend let the devildoers know that he signed under duress, and doesn’t pay the Piper one cent.

If we’re not signing EVERY corporation form any one of the droids shoves in our face, with the words “Under duress” right by the signature, best to get in that habit. Manufactured consent is the Matrix at its core.

Hawk
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Hawk
4 years ago

I wrote you a detailed response, Kym, I saw it posted, now I don’t. Wazzup?

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~here one day. Gone the next.

Two days ago the first comment on the sickie thread (mumps, coughing, whatever), was mine. It disappeared. Re-appeared yesterday. Gone this morning. If you’re looking for logic of why ravings of a mad man go on continuously (mostly ignored), or why comments appear and disappear, you’re in the wrong spot.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

You’re right. Apologies.

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
4 years ago
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Hawk,

You’ve wore-out your welcome. Kym Kemp has nicely instructed you as to her standards. Your intended topic is hate. Nobody here wants that. You’ve said too much already.

Hawk
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Hawk
4 years ago

Welcome to part of the pro White movement by the way.

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1284748/

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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No, welcome to diversity @ KymKemp.

Hawk
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Hawk
4 years ago
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Diversity is a code word for White Genocide

Hawk
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Hawk
4 years ago
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Those are the crimes that were classified ‘hate crimes’. Look at over all violence,
rape and murder rates, Kym. In the concerted effort to demonize the White race and protect minorities, many minority crimes that are obviously hate based are not.

While in most murders the victim is the same race as the victim, 92% for Blacks, 86% for Whites,
there are four times the numbers of Whites contrasted with Blacks, so that 6% difference amounts
to a huge pile of bodies.

I was honored when more than half of President Obama’s second Travon Martin speech was taken nearly verbatim
from a letter I wrote to the DOJ.

Hawk
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Hawk
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Fear Whites will face prejudice? Prejudice against Whites is currently weaponized and institutionalized
against Whites by certain Judeo Marxist Social studies professors nation wide. That increases Black on White
violence which is already many fold the rate of White on Black, violence and murder.

Your earlier statement that most violence is Whites on ‘minorities’ is absolutely false. That is a lie used to further
Anti White animosity. The Black on White murder and rape rates are many times over the White on Black rates, which
the White on Black rate in some years is zero. Some statistics classify Mexicans as White in order to raise those rates.

Sid the Sheep Dogg
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Sid the Sheep Dogg
4 years ago
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Kym.

That interview with Norman Dodd is probably one of the most important interviews, on tax exempt foundations I’ve seen.

It is based on Norman Dodd’s first hand experience when he was tasked to find a lawyer to review the internal books of some of the country’s largest foundations.

https://www.garynorth.com/products/item9.cfm

It’s hard to believe much of what we are experiencing today ,started with a deliberate plan to over take America’s school system, and transform the country.

Don’t take my word.

Give a listen. It’s quite revealing and will help some other curious people in the community know what the investigation found.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
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I don’t think so Hawk.. this kind of philosophy is so deeply convoluted..it’s so Engrained that you have yourself beliving your own lie, and twisted dilutions of the truth.. Any “crime” statistics for the modern day pale in comparison to the murder, genocide and maham racial division has caused.. And in particularly caused by Convoluted White folks convinced of their inferior superiority complex.. I think there is a fine line between freedom of speech and recruitment for this convolution.. There is very little “pride” in the history that has unfolded in the name of being racially superior. Diversity and Unity are strengths! Your victim stance is convoluted, misguided, and misinformed.. Beiliving this philosophy will bring little but internal suffering. And greater overall disharmony.. There are good and bad intentions reflected in all hearts of all races.. All breath the same air, drink the same water recycled after eons.. Under the surface, there is little differences.. between us all.. Your “white movement” is out of touch for a modern world that can be traveled and traversed in hours.. and now nano seconds with internet technology.. Put down the disharmony and embrace a better healthier, sustainable and Racially indifferent tomorrow.. I hope you and others can find it in your heart to heal your indifferences for a better future for the sake of all.. Good will on finding a more harmonious path through existence..Peace on earth.. bless..

Sid Vicious
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4 years ago
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All great points, Pequeno Frito.

Check out Tax Exempt Foundations and look at how they’ve been used for less than stellar humanitarian solutions.

https://youtu.be/YUYCBfmIcHM

Meet Norman Dodd

SmallFry
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4 years ago
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Hawk
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Hawk
4 years ago

No, I’m not here to spread hate, rather to speak truth, and speak truth to power as well.

If you don’t want to hear, that’s fine with me. We see things differently and nay the twain shall meet.

You know where we stand. We are many.

Bye now, I’ve said all I want to say, thank you.

SID VICIOUS
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4 years ago
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Lots of hate disguised as PC, in the name of preventing. ..”trauma”, and hurting people’s feelings.

Are we that fragile as a species, that we must treat any human being, who, as an adult is just as capable of rising and falling by their respective merits without the ugly history of some of our species ground into their every waking moment …

If you want to find the enemy, just look to the dark side of the shadow elite, and those who oppress in the name of governing.

DEMO CIDE

Let people be judged by their fruits…

It’s a sad day when people are unable to clarify what it is. ..

that is the ugliest part of our

Human Nature….

Yet, it is there, for all of us to see, every minute of every single day, in case you forget for a second that we are all part of a human race…

Good luck with ignoring how heavy the top down weaponization of our division truly is.

WEAPONS OF MASS INSTRUCTION.

JOHN TAYLOR GATTO.

Hawk
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4 years ago
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I find it disconcerting that such an uproar can be caused by a young man stating his feelings, speaking his truth,
a Truth that millions agree with.

Have we lost our Freedom of speech? Have we lost our First amendment already? Have we lost our freedom of association,
we know the Marxist/Antifa agenda is to make life and living impossible for those who’s views do not match theirs. That is the position
of that Soros funded group.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
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Thanks for your time, brother.

Appreciate it.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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Was Sandy Hook real Sid?

Yes or no?

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
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“Kym,

These commentors are posting material that has absolutely nothing to do with the article or thread.

This is called hijacking.

They always do it on every popular post”

—————-

You think TRB isn’t a part of the problem?

I think we can all agree that he sees his work needed on the comment section, here as critical to preventing people from enduring trauma from language.

I’ve never posted anything on Sandy Hook, and here is Brian instigating for the purpose of…?
..
Just more arguing..?

Hhhhhmmmmm….

I appreciate your time and effort on keeping such an important tool for the community, and the tough Conversations that help many of us further our knowledge and appreciation for the voices from all over the region.

My apologies for wanting Brian to be a better tool for the community, since he’s quite capable of research and writing, but he still has his hijacking tendencies that just don’t elevate the Conversation.

Thanks again,

Sid

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“Kym,

These commentors are posting material that has absolutely nothing to do with the article or thread.

This is called hijacking.

They always do it on every popular post”

The Real Brian
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4 years ago
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I know what your answer to my question regarding Sandy Hook is.

And previously you wouldn’t answer the question, saying you “dont have a dog in this fight”.

Just you saying that implies you think theres room for a debate about Sandy Hook.

I do not.

I was asking you a litmus question, as you seemed to be unimpressed by debunking Kalergi plan theories.

It may be off topic to you. But if the topic was hosting ridiculous ideas like Kalergi plan theories, my question to was on the mark.

You edited out part of my quote on hijacking, so it suits your agenda of attacking me for debunking you.

*Do you have an explanation for “shoebox, moonpies, bandaids” being a comment?

*Do you feel a need to push anti-vax and chemtrail propaganda on every post?

That’s hijacking.

Me responding and debunking to you is not.

If you do not think Sandy Hook was real, you failed my litmus test. I know you dont care, but I classify people not on race, but on intelligence.

You HumCo and Shak are a tripod of conspiracy fallacies.

It’s ok. We all have room for improvement. Me included.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
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Hawk…and anyone else who is interested in a very revealing aspect of our history.

https://youtu.be/YUYCBfmIcHM

I highly recommend G Edward Griffins 1980s interview with Norman Dodd on tax exempt foundations as a real eye opener to the weaponization of the academic system which was planned almost a hundred years ago, to “create a country, that would /be successfully merged with the Russia”.

Norman Dodd has a very unique perspective From having access to the internal documents of the tax exempt foundations.

https://www.garynorth.com/products/item9.cfm

“Those who fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”

https://www.seanet.com/~barkonwd/wormser.htm

You might be interested in why tax exempt foundations were created in the first place.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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Tax Fraud Explained in 24 mins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kc0YZvTP30 July 1

Hawk
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Hawk
4 years ago

I sincerely hope the Sheriff, Police Chief, and DOJ Terrorism task force have taken the time to read these comments.
and findings. We hope they take action to protect our community and our nation. We will not let our country be destroyed or die at the hands of our eternal enemies, nor will we be replaced.

Semper Fi.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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We hope they take action to protect our community and our nation.

They did! The FBI and Police Dept. have created a file for this troubled young boy.

He is of mixed ethnicity, and his family rightfully brought him into the authorities.

He is in a good community with family that will help him find the right path to a better future than posting on Stormfront.

Hawk
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Hawk
4 years ago

An elephant in the living room? My goodness, I thought that was your new sofa.

Hawk

Sid Vicious
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4 years ago
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Things are getting tense, and they are stoking the fires by weaponizing language against the people.

I hate the people who virtue signal yet spread their own version of inflammatory language. The wolves dressed as sheep, hawk, wolves dressed as sheep, terrorizing the herd….

Sparkle Mahn
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Sparkle Mahn
4 years ago
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White supremacists are nothing more than dumb asses.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago

Wow. Most here dont know, but;

One image posted to Facebook showed a full-page flier calling for white youth to join a group called [not gonna say it] and provided an email address.

A second image was posted to the group’s Twitter page and shows a small piece of paper pinned to a board next to a picture of David Josiah Lawson.

[I won’t provide the link to the story]

I am so, so sorry to the friends and family of David. Your not the only ones who are disgusted by these events.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

~i came across this quote yesterday.

“The American people have this to learn: that where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob, and degrade them, neither person nor property is safe.”
From: “A Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, an American Slave”

http://mentalfloss.com/article/92216/20-powerful-quotes-frederick-douglass

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

shak @ 12:03 yesterday,

The “Vexem” List (from The Black Vault Radio link you provided), that is funny.

Dr. Greer is about mid-way thru this one too:

If This Doesn’t Make You a Believer . . I Doubt Anything Will!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHm2htgAbms&t=224s 12:48 July 13.

Bill Cooper’s “Behold a Pale Horse” – The DVD (1991) is online, or was? I had a friend download it for me years ago. Bill was shot and killed by Federal agents over a tax issue.. too much, too much.

Brain Magic clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GigYWy2UmOY&t=262s 19 mins. 2008.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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Neo-Nazis have no First Amendment right to harassment, judge rules in Daily Stormer case

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/neo-nazis-have-no-first-amendment-right-to-harassment-judge-rules-in-daily-stormer-case

shak
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shak
4 years ago
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I missed that. Do you have a link for it? Was it in the video itself? I don’t see it in the description link list.

Thanks for the next Dr. Greer vid to check out. I finally found pt 2 & 3 Boulder ones, and plan to watch them soon.

Oh wow, that was an interesting video.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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Kym,

These commentors are posting material that has absolutely nothing to do with the article or thread.

This is called hijacking.

They always do it on every popular post.

They assume that the last comments may be read first by many people. So they post their propaganda there.

How about we stick to talking about relevant information, not their latest conspiracy dream.

Central has a blog/ website.

Go do this over there and stop cramming your propaganda onto Kyms site.

I guess your views arent popular enough even with your own site?

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~are you asking about Behold a Pale Horse? Here’s the one i have, it’s 4 1/2 hrs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHhR2rQkWKc

I can’t get “The Love Vibration 528 hz” to download
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zblI_90ekPE 1 hr. w/Len Horowitz.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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Sigh,

Medical misinformation

Fear-mongering

Horowitz has spent many years aggressively pushing the idea that vaccines were designed for genocidal purposes,[3] and that both HIV/AIDS and Ebola were manufactured as biological weapons by the U.S. government.[4][5] In this, he has been dangerously influential with some very prominent figures, such as Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam,[6][7][8] whose call for the black community to boycott vaccination was largely prompted by Horowitz’s propaganda.[9]

Horowitz proclaimed in an interview with Al Jazeera that the H1N1 vaccine would cause sterility,[10] and is also known to have led Barack Obama’s former pastor Jeremiah Wright astray with his misinformation.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Leonard_Horowitz

Stop hijacking.

shak
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shak
4 years ago
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An, sorry, I should have posted the entire thought. No, not the Pale Horse, which btw, is one enlightening book that really lays it out there, and begs for us to use discernment. It’s a good book that’s often found being read in various online chats and private meet ups.
The Orion project is some serious stuff.

Anyway, no, I was asking where to find the link of “The “Vexem” List’ you mentioned.

Yeh, it’s opening an extra page that makes you think nothing is happening. Just close that extra page and you should see an Mp5 video playback video. Right click on the video and save to file. BE sure to NAME it, though or you’ll be saving it under the default which is playback or whatever it says.
Those sound and light wave frequencies studies are fun to watch and the point is so easy to understand. It’s all common sense really. Our bodies are mostly water… our shells are mostly organic soil… finding the right balance of minerals, light, sound, joy, love, all the nourishing factors, makes for a very happy camper despite the mosquitoes buzzing angrily about. I love this kind of science.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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Ohhh. Not a link. It’s what Tyler Rogoway said on the Black Vault Radio interview.

~definitely the sound and wave frequencies, vibrations, are MUCH more to developing our selves than what we seem destined to talk about to get thru it –for now.

I wonder what the dense tone of commerce vibrates at?

shak
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shak
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Darn it, I missed a funny. One of these days I’ll be lingo savvy and not miss a beat.

haha, good question.

Hawk
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Hawk
4 years ago

Those are the crimes that were classified ‘hate crimes’. Look at over all violence,
rape and murder rates, Kym.

While in most murders the victim is the same rate as the victim, 92% for Blacks, 86% for Whites,
there are four times the numbers of Whites contrasted with Blacks, so that 6% difference amounts
to a huge pile of bodies.

I was honored when more than half of President Obama’s second Travon Martin speech was taken nearly verbatim
from a letter I wrote to the DOJ.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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Great, we get to hear a neo-nazi skew numbers so he can be worried about a “huge pile of bodies”.

Guest
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Guest
4 years ago
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No you don’t have to rely on anyone. You can go to https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls And get what facts there are.

In 2017 there were 576 white people murdered by black people and 264 black people murdered by white people. If black people had murder white people in proportion to their demographics, they would have murdered 109 white people. If white people had murdered black people in proportion to their demographics, they would have murdered 512 black people.

Black people are about 13% of the population and white people are about 61%. There were about 6849 murders in 2017 of which 43% were done by black people and 52% where done by white people. If black people had murdered at the same percentage of population, they would have done 890 rather than 2970 and white people would have done 4177 rather than 2861.

Of course you could have simply said that you don’t care what the statistics are, which I suspect will be your response. So it really didn’t matter at all. Much easier not to bother but please feel free to check my arithmetic as I frequently do it wrong. In essence I agree that the phrase “a pile of bodies” is hyperbole since most murders by far are same race. However males are a singularly dangerous demographic but I suspect you don’t care about that either.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
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“In 2017, the estimated number of murders in the nation was 17,284.” From your link. That’s my only qualm with your numbers…. or am I missing a data point for the lower number used?

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/topic-pages/tables/table-1

Guest
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4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

I think the chart referenced is smaller due to the requirement that race is known. You’d think that would be an easily obtained stat but that chart uses data as reported by the police (unknown being excluded) and there is no requirement to officially get it. BTW it is not my data. I just use the FBIs chart. The Uniform Reporting requirements are not very uniform as they are voluntary.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

That’s some flawed logic. The majority of homicides are not random.

11% according to:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/18/nyregion/killed-by-a-stranger-a-rare-event-but-a-rising-fear.html

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
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I referenced single parent households many times and have offered a wide array of studies that show that factor to be the single largest factor as to whether a young man becomes a criminal regardless of race or economic status. Black communities have a disproportionately high rate of single parent (mother) households. I know you don’t like that answer, but look at some of the studies.

Here’s a starting point:
https://www.google.com/search?q=single+parent+households+and+youth+crime&oq=single+parent+households+and+youth+crime&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.22704j1j7&client=tablet-android-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
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Hyperbole aside, I stated, as do the studies”…the single largest factor as to whether a young man becomes a criminal regardless of race or economic status…” is whether a father is present in the household.

“More than half of all black children live in single-parent households, a number that has doubled — doubled — since we were children.” – Obama

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/jun/23/barack-obama/statistics-dont-lie-in-this-case/

The culture needs to change, not the laws.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

What’s the deal here?

We argue for 5 days to get to the point that black families need to do better?

Great.

It is incredible how this article is about white supremacy and we, no not me, made it into a discussion about “the problem with black people.”

Aren’t you all proud?

You’ve definitely shown no racial bias.

And if all it comes down to is judging reactions, I think I have plenty to judge by.

I’m pissing off. I’m tired of listening to the struggle for white civil rights.

Its ridiculous.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

If that’s what makes you feel better.

We ALL need to do better. It’s not a black versus white issue. It’s understanding we are all on the same boat.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

If by “on the same boat” you mean Earth, I agree.

If by “on the same boat” you mean an equal chance from day 1 in your life:

Then that’s what everyone else’s struggle has been, except for the white male.

And that’s why this poster, one posted next to a picture of David Lawson is racist and extremist.

It should not be an entrance into a discussion on the BPP of the 60’s or Black crime rates now.

And Kym has welcomed Stormfront into the discussion, you know, they are cheering this young NAZI act on.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Name one group of people who has not been under the heel of another group at some point in history.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Why review a millenia if we can’t get today right.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Something about knowing history so you don’t repeat it.

Or, if you prefer:

“History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes.” attributed to Mark Twain

Lynn H
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Lynn H
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

I’m a little late to this party- was out of town, but those stats aren’t very accurate. The reason is that many black parents are not married. This doesn’t mean the father doesn’t help bring up the kids. Or live with or next door to the mother and kids. The real # of actual single parent households is an unknown.

Inner city environments and poverty might also have an effect on murder rates. A large percentage of black people outside of the South live in cities as rural areas may not be safe for them. Poverty and unmarried parents often coincide, so that gives 2 variables where there is accounting for 1.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Lynn H, the studies I’ve read have a very high correlation between single mother households and juvenile delinquency. This holds true regardless of economic status, race or any other factor. And juvenile delinquency is a high indicator of adult criminal status. I linked above to a generic g@@gle search for studies and stories on studies.

For example a Canadian study:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1756061616300957

Guest
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Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

What I personally believe, without having anything but personal experience to go by, it has to do with a hyper sense of grievance and feeling disrespected. If you have been told, either by personal experience or media, that people have a history of bending abusive or violent just based on race (or other intrinsic characteristic), you will be naturally on alert to protect yourself until it is proven safe. You are likely to act in what you see as proactive self defense faster than someone who doesn’t expect such crap. Especially men are prone to reacting strongly (as in “little man syndrome”) when they feel handicapped by others bad opinions, whether real or imagined. Women too, having been abused, can be more reactive to possible threats than someone never having experienced it.

It doesn’t take many such incidents, if it is impressive enough, to leave a serious, lasting effect for a lifetime. And it takes a conscience effort to rise above these experiences to act as if they were not so important. That is one reason why I hate insults and name calling of all kinds. Depending on the person getting attacked, they can leave long lasting damage. I hate racists rants and gender put downs especially but do not think a patronizing defender does anything but make it worse. It becomes so self involved – ‘I’m so much better that that”- which has zilch to do with reality of the person effected. Everyone recognizes patronage when it’s laid on them and resents it.

So what to do? First be honest-don’t pretend issues or problems exist. The best I’ve come up with is to look at each incident as a defect in the understanding of an individual (and I do mean individual, not group) and change it if I can but at least make it clear, when changing it is not possible, just whose should think about fixing themselves and why. Relentlessly and persistently, knowing full well there is another one born each minute and the task is never over.

Guest
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Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Of course there is racial discrimination. Like everything else, it just gets sticky in the details. In this case though, I was talking about more about filters of facts as a bypr,

Guest
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Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

If demographics are the controlling factor, then there are not 10 black sweater shooters there are 2. It works for the number of shooters as well as the numbers of shot. If you took one shooter shooting randomly then his personal chances of hitting a certain demographic are controlled by that demographic of who is abpvailable to be shot but when both the shooter and the shot are controlled by their own demographic, that is no longer true. It balances out.

Guest
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Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

This will be the last post on this thread- too many comments gum up my keyboard. Every word typed takes forever.

I can find no way tease out the affect of population size on the stats. But there is no striking correlation and to assume one only in the particular bit on cross race white murders being correlated would be unreasonable in the face of there clearly being no such effect on black murderers killing black victims where the sheer volume defies population levels.

Doing something needs to be based on facts and doing something is not always possible or desirable. But knowledge can stop wrong actions based on misunderstanding real figures. Must stop now… Am missing life while slowly keyboarding for no good reason.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Welcoming all comments can do that.

But hey:

New readers!

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=14905799&postcount=18

Yay!

They even put a “welcome new readers” alert up yesterday on the thread.

That means they noticed enough traffic from your site.

I’m sure their kind messages will be heard by more, now.

Humboldt State University, AKA ‘Red Square’ is a bastion of Anti-White Marxist indoctrination. It is a hostile environment where White Students are forced to sit thru classes listening to the White race being denigrated and demeaned, blamed for ‘all the evils in the world’ by certain Jewish professors.

The Marxist twits running the place, since the area is predominately White, go to Los Angeles soliciting Black students who rarely show up to class, yet hang in the community for the Ganja and White Women. It’s the Marxist/Lesbian LGBTQ community who assist them in working to make the University and Humboldt County the ‘diverse’ globohomo county they want it to become. 

It is at the point where White males, and especially White Veteran males feel they have to ‘keep their heads down and say nothing or be driven from campus by the politically correct. Action needs to be taken to correct those imbalances and the racist Anti White indoctrination that goes on there. 

The good guys over there for some reason have been banned from spreading their love messages to most websites:

It’s getting harder to leave comments after newspaper articles. These sites seem to be so afraid of what might be posted that they want you to register with all this personal info. My local paper stopped online comments all together because of what they called “hate” and “racism.”

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=14905548&postcount=11

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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I looked at Stormfront 6 times total.

Them posting that notice yesterday was a guess. It wasn’t there when Hawk posted the link originally.

It might have been posted the day before yesterday, I really dont know. I’m sure Hawk could tell us.

I’m sure 20 clicks to this important debate at your site were mine today.

I looked at FOX news commenting guidelines, theres another click.

It takes 20 seconds to look all this up. Not all day.

I’m busy, and frankly I’m tired of trying to help good information in your threads.

Too tired of it.

Thanks for telling me straight, it’s the only way I like it, and it’s how I give it.

Lynn H
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Lynn H
4 years ago
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Brian, please clear your browser before lurking and for goodness sakes don’t give more search engine fodder.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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Thanks Lynn.

I monitored the Storm for my name for a few days.

I know what taking a stand is, and the risk it brings. Especially with that group.

I was sad to see them happy with Kyms choices.

I dont think I’m part of the problem for calling out a problem and showing it.

Unless there
Is no problem, in which than I am the problem.

But by your response, I think we both agree on what the problem is.

Thanks for your concerns

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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Both sociologists and criminologists agree that violent crime is a complex socioeconomic phenomenon. Generally speaking, research shows that poor people commit the most crime: According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, during the period from 2008 through 2012, “persons in poor households at or below the federal poverty level (FPL) (39.8 per 1,000) had more than double the rate of violent victimization as persons in high-income households (16.9 per 1,000) … The overall pattern of poor persons having the highest rates of violent victimization was consistent for both whites and blacks.”

Knowing this, the small difference in crime rates can easily be explained by income disparity. Maybe the question should be why are such a large percentage of black people poor?

As a matter of fact, if we are going to derail a conversation about black lives to talk about black-on-black crime, there are a few other questions we should answer first:

Why is the rate of violence actually higheramong poor, urban whites? Why don’t we ever discuss the economic impact of redlining and segregation on rates of violence?

https://www.theroot.com/why-we-never-talk-about-black-on-black-crime-an-answer-1819092337

Now, are you factoring in the numbers of unsolved black murders like David Lawson, where a white killer gets away?

Do those numbers include the black males that are falsely convicted?

Likely not.

I’m still not afraid to be white.

Weird. Somehow I’m not feeling the big white “struggle” some are mentioning.

Everytime I’m pulled over I know I’ll live to tell about it.

But I should say, thanks for the number crunch. I didnt double check.

Guest
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4 years ago
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It’s nice to discuss facts and issues. Of course you can not validly assume that lawson’s killer is white until this has been offically done by a court. But if it is a flaw in the stat collecting, it would equally miss unidentified black killers of whites and not change the percentages significantly. Same with unfairly convicted but maybe less certainly.

One point to derive from not talking about stats is that perceptions drive actions more than reality . If every black person killed by a white ends up labelled as a race based killing while the reverse does not, people will certainly think it is common and become hypervigilent thus actually adding to the stats by assuming they are a likely target, behaving like a target and getting treated as a suspicious person. The misperception tends to create its own result. This is why being careful in using the word “racist” is more needed rather than being fearful of disrespecting the claims of victims of real racism.

The Real Brian
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4 years ago
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In a report released Thursday titled Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-2015, the DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics found that a majority of most violent crimes are committed by people who are the same race as their victims. Indeed, the rate of white-on-white violent crime, it found, is about four times the rate of black-on-white crime.

White supremacists frequently like to manipulate crime statistics in order to claim that nonwhite minorities, particularly African-Americans, are far more crime-prone and the source of most violent crime against whites. Indeed, it is a core belief that this is the case, and many white nationalist ideologues — including politician and pundit Patrick Buchanan, Jared Taylor of American Renaissance, and the Council of Conservative Citizens — all have made considerable hay out of proffering “studies” laden with risibly bad statistics and other evidence to make their case.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/10/23/white-supremacists-favorite-myths-about-black-crime-rates-take-another-hit-bjs-study

Regardless of their views regarding causation, scholars acknowledge that some racial and ethnic minorities are disproportionately represented in the arrest and victimization reports which are used to compile crime rate statistics.[126] There is, however, a great deal of debate regarding the causes of that disproportionality.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States

shak
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4 years ago
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I only read a few of your posts, so, don’t take this personal… but… what’s your point?
You seem to be grouping ALL people (political pawns) of one particular unit and pitting them against another political pawn group, so that you can make some kind of political pawn point.
If you want to be a Political Pawn in some rich man’s game, then go be one. That’s your choice.
But the rest of us prefer to be the sweet individual’s we were born to be before the Political Pawn game came along.
If that’s not your point, then, … well, what is your point? Not that I’m that curious, but I do feel obliged to politely ask. If you don’t answer, that’d be great too.

The Real Brian
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4 years ago

Federal magistrate says Jewish woman should get $14 million from neo-Nazi who orchestrated troll-storm

 A federal magistrate in Montana has recommended a neo-Nazi pay more than $14 million in damages to a Jewish woman who was subjected to a troll storm he organized.

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Anglin and his lawyer, who no longer represents him, earlier claimed Anglin was no longer a US citizen and that his words were protected by the First Amendment.

Anglin did not show up for a deposition in this case, which led to a hearing seeking a default judgment. His whereabouts are currently unknown. He did not respond to CNN e-mail requests for comment about the ruling, or previous requests for comments on the case.

He can only be forced to pay the settlements if he is found in the US.

Tanya Gersh sued Andrew Anglin in 2017 after she and her family experienced years of harassment and intimidation because Anglin published her name and contact information on his website, the Daily Stormer, and urged readers to contact her.

……

Gersh’s son was 12 years old when he, too, received hateful social media posts directed at him.

“There is no doubt that the judge intended a message not just for Andrew Anglin but for anyone who decides an organized campaign for hate that causes harm and that there will be consequences,” SPLC lawyer David Dinielli told CNN.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/07/15/us/montana-jewish-woman-judgment-neo-nazi-soh/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F

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4 years ago
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Not really a valid conclusion. It’s a long established point that guaranteed freedom of speech is not protected when it creates a threat of specific nature to a clearly identified person. Nothing new at all. Certainly not showing up at a trial and having your attorneys withdraw will ensure the case is lost. No big , grandiose overarching precedents can be derived from that despite CNN’s reporting of complainant’s claims.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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Actually, the Daily Stormer website creator never made specific threats.

He did open his website up to create the space for Nazis to threaten and attack this woman.

The judge made a good decision, plus, it’s just awesome to see a a NAZI run from a Jew.

It is a step in a good direction.

Its pertinent and relevant. We’ve got a NAZI hating and naming a Jew professor at HSU. It’s happening right here on RHBB.

Extremely relevant.

And I’m sure Hawk hates to read about it…

Fox covered the story too. They’re take on it is similar to CNNs.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

shoe box, moon pie, band aids

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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Kym,

Why is this comment here?

“Shoebox, moon pie, band aids”

Stop letting this thread get hijacked by utter nonsense!

The Real Brian
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4 years ago
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Kym,

Do you plan on letting HumCo continue to post a last comment that has nothing to do with anything but testing your tolerance and my patience?

Cant you delete it under Article 4 of the Kymstitution?

Really curious why you chose to let this stay. I’m trying to find articles and prove points. Its tiring watching real work get shit on by a 5 year olds mental jibber jabber.

I’ve posted relevant comments that have to do with the thread, only to be hijacked by anti-vax propaganda. Now it’s not even propaganda. The info-abscent warrior is now just tossing random words out…..

What do you lose by deleting this?

What do I or anyone gain by you leaving it?

Staying on topic is a really simple concept for most adults.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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You have a rule that seems to apply if you applied it and some very simple judgement.

Your site.

I’ll drop it.

Hawk
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Hawk
4 years ago
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Thank Kim!! Blessings to you lady, I like your work.

The Real Brian
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4 years ago

Racist, Violent, Unpunished: A White Hate Group’s Campaign of Menace

https://www.propublica.org/article/white-hate-group-campaign-of-menace-rise-above-movement

terrence
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terrence
4 years ago

Where’s the lie? However, says kid is bi-racial… wth.