Inside SoHum’s Flow Kana Facility: We Take a Look Around

Workers creating pre rolls at the Flow Kana facility. [All photos provided by Emily Hobelmann]

Note: With Flow Kana opening a large cannabis processing facility in Southern Humboldt, free lance writer Emily Hobelmann figured she wasn’t the only one interested in learning what they do there. Here’s what she found.

The Flow Kana processing facility in Southern Humboldt is up and running again after a three month lapse in licensing forced the company to temporarily cease operations at its Whitethorn location.

The cannabis brand initially began operating at this newly constructed facility under a temporary license back in November 2018. When the temporary license expired the following February, state regulations did not allow for an extension, and the California Department of Food and Agriculture (CDFA) was not prepared to issue an annual license at that time.

Flow Kana was able to recommence operations at this leased facility in May when it received a provisional license, which is valid for a full year.

The approximately 10,000 square foot warehouse is located at the Whitethorn Construction complex, right behind Caffé Dolce. It is a spacious and spotless area, with a large portion of its square footage devoted to climate-controlled storage.

Pre rolls being made at the Flow Kana Whitethorn facility.

Flow Kana Director of Processing Drew Phillips welcomed me (Emily Hobelmann) for a tour of the facility on a Friday in mid-June, when there were about 13 or 14 full-time employees working on the processing room floor. Phillips says Flow Kana will employ about 32 people full-time at this facility when operating at max capacity. “We’re working on staffing up right now.”

My tour started in the well-appointed break room, where Phillips gave me background on the company and its operations over cold sparkling water and a lazy Susan packed with snacks. The break room is equipped with a full kitchen, complete with a stainless steel refrigerator and an ADA-compliant gas stove.

The break room.

Flow Kana did not construct this facility; Phillips credits the McKee family for the design, build out and thoughtful details. Flow Kana wound up here, he says, because of fortuitous circumstances, basically, a “right place, right time” situation that arose when another company backed out of leasing the space.

Flow Kana holds both distribution and processing licenses, and the company is well funded. This press release from mid-February describes how “Flow Kana has raised a total  of $175 million  to date to build and scale the California cannabis supply chain centered around small, decentralized, sustainably operated cannabis farms.”

Flow Kana’s current operational model is to aggregate and process sun-grown cannabis from local farms at its Laytonville and Whitethorn hubs. From these two locations, materials are moved downstream from to the Flow Cannabis Institute (FCI) in Mendocino, Flow Kana’s sophisticated sorting and packaging facility at the old Fetzer Winery in Redwood Valley.

Flow Kana moves retail ready 1/8ths and full flower pre-rolls from FCI to dispensaries all over the state. Since the company sources from a variety of small farms, Phillips says the product line is “ever changing,” and their customer base likes the variety.

Local cannabis farms that work with Flow Kana include Rebel Grown, Ridgeline, Sun Roots, Happy Day Farms, Full Sun Farms, Moon Made Farms and Emerald Spirit Botanicals. The Willie’s Reserve and Brother David’s brands are also affiliated with Flow Kana. (Brother David’s is the new cannabis company founded by Dr. Bronner’s CEO David Bronner).

Licensed cannabis cultivators are not necessarily required to send their crops out for processing at facilities like this warehouse in Whitethorn. The state does allow for cultivators to process onsite, but only as long the local jurisdiction has approved post-harvest production activities for that particular license, activities which can include, trimming, packaging and making pre-rolls.

Scale at one of the processing centers.

In general, onsite processing at cultivation sites may not be practical or permitted because of the need to develop infrastructure for processing employees or because of complications around hiring extra hands. But it can be done, again, only with explicit approval from the local jurisdiction.*

The Flow Kana facility in Whitethorn is not affiliated with any single cultivation operation. It is essentially a service station where product from many farms is processed, then moved into the legal market under the Flow Kana brand. Carter and Phillips both believe demand for processing facilities like this will build in the coming years, accommodating cultivators that either do not want to or cannot process their crops on-site.

The warehouse has a large storage capacity.

Phillips points to another draw to the Whitethorn facility for licensed cultivators – its storage capacity. Proper storage is an important factor in the legal market, and Flow Kana can legally transport cannabis off the hill into its secure, insured and climate-controlled facility until the product is processed and ready to move elsewhere.

These services come at a cost, of course, and Flow Kana’s spectrum of processing options and fees are intended to minimize cost to the farms. Fees can depend on whether the material comes bucked or un-bucked (“We do take on branched flower”) and on how the material is graded and processed (single-A, double-A or triple-A; hand trimmed and/or machine trimmed).

Drying and curing is all done on farm, Phillips says, and Flow Kana does not currently “R&D” test materials before transport to their processing facilities. The company does, however, plan to implement this type of preliminary testing for the first light deprivation crops of this season. COA [Certificate of Analysis] testing happens in the final form of the flower, once the product has an established retail route.

Phillips says that when Flow Kana does take possession of materials for processing, the goal is to “make the flower shine.”

If the flower is dense and round with structural integrity, it may be machine trimmed then polished by hand. In fact, Phillips says, “We get a more consistent trim across the board if we machine trim first and then give it to trimmers.” But if the flower has “a lot of dips and valleys or foxtails sticking out of it – we’re going to full hand trim that. It’s not going to go into a machine.”

Trimming machines will play a significant role in the future of cannabis, minimizing processing time and cost, but Phillips believes there will always be a need for the human touch. “Cannabis is a very delicate flower,” he says. “A lot of it needs to be hand trimmed, and I don’t think you can replace that.”

A big part of his job is to ensure cultivators that Flow Kana is going to treat their product with respect, and Phillips spends a great deal of time showing clients around Flow Kana’s facilities so they can see the processing operations first-hand.

A glass viewing window onto one of the processing floors.

“Even the toughest farms that hang on super tight, I’ve gotten them to start trusting. And the trust is there because the proof is in the pudding,” he noted.

Phillips says in addition to all of the considerations around trimming methodologies, Flow Kana has kept their inventory tracking mechanisms tight from the jump because they are dealing with so many different entities. The onus is on Flow Kana, he says, to make sure products are kept clean and separated at all times.

This is a huge departure from Humboldt’s arguably infamous trim scene and black market sales culture, I observe to him, even more so because the facility will be operating year round and will therefore be a place for stable employment.

Phillips laughs in response to my comment and offers a pertinent anecdote, telling me how it’s often quite hard for new processing employees to take required breaks, as many seasoned trimmers are used to working non-stop for hours on end.

Entry level processing positions at Flow Kana start above minimum wage and receive full benefits, including dental, vision and life insurance policies, paid holidays, paid sick leave and paid time off, the company says. Flow Kana also runs its own in-house version of a Community Supported Agriculture program. Phillips says most of the current Whitethorn staff live in Shelter Cove, Ettersburg and Petrolia.

And while Flow Kana does not necessarily have straight up trim work available all of the time, “we do have things to fill those gaps,” he says. For example, on the day of my visit, the bulk of the processing employees were clustered around a station of stainless steel worktables making Willie’s Reserve brand pre-rolls.

Making pre rolls.

Lara Martin is one of the full-time processing employees at the Whitethorn facility that was ready to talk on record during my visit.

Lara Martin processing employee

Lara Martin

She says her time with Flow Kana has been “really wonderful” so far. She is enthusiastic about the benefits package and the fact that the facility is within 15 miles of her home in Shelter Cove.

Martin worked in a corporate environment for decades before moving to Humboldt County, then she did trim work and housekeeping for about five years before getting this job. “This is the way companies should be doing business,” she says of Flow Kana and its “blend” of corporate and laid back Northern California cultures. “The people are amazing. They take care of us.”

I ask if any locals have given her a hard time for working here, and Martin says she got some flak initially. Her response was to tell people to check the company out, to research how Flow Kana is fighting for the farmers. Now she says people ask her, “How do I apply for a job?”

In the same vein, I ask Phillips what it’s like to field resumes for full-time, above-board trimming jobs. He says some people will reach out to Flow Kana for employment and will say, “’I don’t feel comfortable sending you a resume about what I’ve done in the traditional market.’ And that’s fine.”

It all comes down to the interview, making sure the applicant understands cannabis, that they actually know how to trim and that they are decent people. “[Trimming] is difficult,” he says. “It’s skilled labor… You can give flower to lots of different people and get lots of different trim jobs,” including totally destroyed flower.

For me, it’s a novel experience to talk about trim work in the context of resumes and 40-hour per week jobs with eight-hour days. The tour conjures up endless contrasts in my memory, the variety of black and gray market trim scenes I’ve witnessed over the years, in person, in story and in the media. This facility is not unique in the grand scheme of cannabis, but it’s definitely a new and different vibe in Southern Humboldt.

Supplies are organized in the lab setting.

As the tour wraps, Phillips tells me he believes this facility will become Flow Kana’s “major touch point in Southern Humboldt,” a sort of “water cooler” for farmers. He is enthusiastic about the Whitethorn location, saying “We could be in a warehouse anywhere, but to be somewhere that has life already, that has a story, is so much more important.”

“This is where it started,” he adds. “The community is so vibrant.” To him, the cannabis farming history and culture on the west side of SoHum makes the half hour drive to reach Highway 101 worthwhile. His crew is stoked on Caffé Dolce , and they have a farmer who brings in cookies or donuts for the staff on a weekly basis.

You have to check in.

The facility is secure, however, and you can’t just show up there willy-nilly expecting a warm welcome, even if you have a box of pastries. This is a licensed cannabis processing facility — I had to schedule my visit in advance, sign in as a guest upon arrival and wear a lab coat on the processing floor.

Everyone has to wear a lab coat.

Formalities aside, I found the crew to be professional and friendly and the well lit, air-conditioned, modern and legal trim scene environment to be agreeable. Perhaps Flow Kana will have me back when the facility is in full swing with this fall’s outdoor harvest.

Workers at Flow Kana.

*Thank you to Holly Carter from Oxalis Integrative Services for clarifying the nuances around CDFA cultivation and processing licenses. Carter is an expert on cannabis licensing and Co-Founder and Owner of Oxalis, a company that offers compliance and licensing services to sun-grown and traditional farmers in the Southern Humboldt area.

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M. Papin
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M. Papin
4 years ago

Is this the same company that has the facility on the old Fetzer property in Redwood Valley? ( locals speculate that Grandma Fetzer is a- rolling in her grave). Just curious. If so it looks like we have a growing corporation in our midst. No pun intended.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
4 years ago
Reply to  M. Papin

From the article, “From these two locations, materials are moved downstream from to the Flow Cannabis Institute (FCI) in Mendocino, Flow Kana’s sophisticated sorting and packaging facility at the old Fetzer Winery in Redwood Valley.”

Davy Jones
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Davy Jones
4 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

The main thing that I want everybody to remember is that there were promises made about keeping Mom and Pop at a sustainable level there is no permit and should not require one for a mini backyard grow 25-50 would be reasonable but six is not for a medical grow some people have been taking care of themselves friends and family for a long time and now they are saying you can only have 6 what bullshit compassionate use on this day let it be known I have no compassion left for those who put these rules in place the flesh-eating rot has begun exposing your ugliness many mom-and-pop grows of this size have little-to-no environmental impacts

Lolo
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Lolo
4 years ago
Reply to  Davy Jones

Shit you can get 20 pounds easy off of six full sun hogs.

Herc
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Herc
4 years ago
Reply to  Davy Jones

Flow canna is funded by phillip Morris (Marlboro)

CoveDweller
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CoveDweller
4 years ago
Reply to  Herc

No, it is not.

WTF
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WTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Herc

bullshit fake news

jojo
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jojo
4 years ago
Reply to  Herc

It is true! Flow Kana has very bad investors!
They play this game of acting like they care about the local culture, its just a way for them to capitalize on the culture to take over the market. I would highly advise no local farmers to work with this company. They can’t be non corporate if they already have 175 million dollars. Think, who gave them that much money, and how has that much money to spend!

Flow kana is a bad company and we don’t want this corporate takeover in our backyard!

j1603
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j1603
4 years ago
Reply to  jojo

Get a life and do not release false information. Who are the “very bad investors”?

kskquared
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kskquared
4 years ago
Reply to  Herc

It absolutely is not. Gotham Green Partners is one of a few lead investors- along with Roger McNamee

Select brand
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Select brand
4 years ago
Reply to  kskquared

Lofty expectations. My money’s on select brand .

https://www.market-watch.com/story/the-weed-middleman-that-expects-to-make-billions-as-the-sunkist-of-pot-2019-01-11

“According to the documents obtained by MarketWatch, Flow Kana plans to start selling vapes, bulk oil and other products this year. Of the $2.26 billion it is projecting to make in 2022, $1.12 billion would be from vape sales, up from the $35 million it is projecting for 2019.”

Matthew Meyer
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Matthew Meyer
4 years ago
Reply to  Herc

In my opinion, Flow Kana looks like one of the brighter spots in the dark night of Legalization.

But here are some facts known to Google that show the claim isn’t fake news.

A primary investor in Flow Kana is Gotham Green Partners: https://mjbizdaily.com/craft-cannabis-firm-flow-kana-closes-record-125-million-funding-round/

GGP key figure Jason Adler is also on the board of Cronos Group: https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/04/01/4-things-you-overlooked-with-medmens-250-million-i.aspx

Cronos Group received a $1.8 billion investment from tobacco giant Altria: https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/03/17/cronos-groups-18-billion-investment-from-altria-ha.aspx

None of this means that Altria or Marlboro are funding Flow Kana, certainly not directly. But it does substantiate the notion that there’s a closer-than-Kevin-Bacon connection between them.

j1603
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j1603
4 years ago
Reply to  Matthew Meyer

No connection between Altria and flowkana, that is a bullshit statement.

Joe Cameltoe
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Joe Cameltoe
4 years ago
Reply to  Matthew Meyer

Re/mattmeyer

This guy internets.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Davy Jones

~take a bow, Davy.

Lol
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Lol
4 years ago
Reply to  M. Papin

Should have waited till 4:20 on the clock for the photo! 8 more minutes would have been so, so much cooler!😎🧐

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Lol

~collective, hive mentality of group-think.

Sparkle Mahn
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Sparkle Mahn
4 years ago
Reply to  Lol

That would have been awesome except to the narrow minded.

Dan F
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Dan F
4 years ago

Interesting & well written thanks for sharing that!!!

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago

Sure is a lot of plastic ans energy for prerolla eigths ans trimmin… So sustainable

john
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john
4 years ago
Reply to  This guy

Just bought a legal jar of Black Jack distributed by FlowCana actually made of compostable, bio-corn. Thought that was a cool, hadn’t seen that yet in the market. Still skeptical about their financial ties.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago

Awesome article.

Looks like a good business.

Nice. Mail a sample 1/8th and pre-roll to PO Box 420, Emerald Triangle, I’ll be there……

Down with gavin
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Down with gavin
4 years ago

So this is what the corporate takeover of our livelihoods,and the stealing of our constitutional &property rights looks like on the inside

Leo's should start policing themselves
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Leo's should start policing themselves
4 years ago

Yep. Lab coats and 12-15$ an hour. Still have to try to get a # in 8 hours for most of the legal farms (from what I’ve heard), at least most of it’s machine trimmed first. So different from 5 years ago. The benefits SOUND nice though, as long as they can keep their paperwork straight with the state this time.And I don’t get the need for a lab coat when a guy is wearing shorts? That’s not ok in a kitchen, do they have the same standards as Serv safe? Not trying to get dude in trouble but I’m confused… Or is the lab coat just a company enforced thing?

Liz
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Liz
4 years ago

I don’t see anyone in shorts in the photos shown. The lab coats are probably to protect worker’s clothes. (And it looks to me that workers can stand and sit while working.)

Sprowl Creek
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Sprowl Creek
4 years ago

General industry regulations apply. It’s up to the authority having jurisdiction and the employer. Mandatory compliance requires a written policy stating the requirements. Welcome to the future of compliance.

Road Weary
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Road Weary
4 years ago

Trim Jobs with, benefits, steady work, clean environment, pay role. Workmen’s comp, Social Security. Better for the workers.

Herc
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Herc
4 years ago
Reply to  Road Weary

Marlboro

really
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really
4 years ago
Reply to  Herc

more fake news

shak
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shak
4 years ago
Reply to  Herc

Blaming a ‘brand’ is cute, but it doesn’t cut the mustard.
Why are tobacco companies-farms, subsidized?
Why are some States-Legislators protecting the tobacco companies?
How do the states benefit off the cigarette tax funds?
What is the biggest threat to tobacco sales?
What is the Tobacco Master Settlement Plan?
How did the States-Legislators try to add to the Plan at a later date when tobacco sales were dropping?
How many States bonded out their settlement and now need extra tax funds in order to bail themselves out?
Which product is 95% safer than smoking cigarettes, yet is constantly under the threat of bans?
Why doesn’t the media report that the cigarette smoking (sales, incoming tax funds) has drastically declined, yet they constantly complain that there is now an epidemic of Vapers?
Why do the surveys ask if a product was ever tried before, and then include that yes answer into the data of ‘epidemic users’?

The same nonsense goes on with just about any ‘crisis’ that’s hit the news.
Who benefits?

gifford springs on account
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gifford springs on account
4 years ago
Reply to  Road Weary

You must not now how a corporate job really works…

Down with gavin
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Down with gavin
4 years ago

Yeah and corparate minimum wage. !!!!

MikeyC
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MikeyC
4 years ago

People will moan about the ‘corporate take-over’, but managing a small workforce to process on your own is a hassle and comes with a lot of overhead as an employer, not to mention the extra risks of storing processed weed given the crime around here. This is clearly better for employees (with the benefits and job security), and likely better for growers too. Think with your heads… If even three of you farmers have saved your money, you can pool your resources and start a small processing operation like this and undercut these guys. There’s plenty of money to be made and plenty of opportunity to not let companies like this take over. But instead you’ll just complain about corporate greed and capitalism…

Herc
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Herc
4 years ago
Reply to  MikeyC

Marlboro sold cigs and lied for decades denying it was bad for you making billions. now they invest in flow

MikeyC
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MikeyC
4 years ago
Reply to  Herc

What’s your point? That weed is bad? Or that Malboro is making money off this?

If your point is that big money is getting rich off this, as I said, it would be really easy to pool your resources to form some sort of processing collective, and beat/compete with them. Sometimes it takes big money and an industry leader to make a system more efficient. I am certainly all for them coming in if it pushes the growers towards a more organized system, which would lead to less disappearances of trimmers in the backwoods, less robberies, etc.

If your point is weed is bad and that it will be promoted by corporate greed… well I’d generally agree with you that it’s bad, but society has decided it’s a vice that we are going to allow, so Malboro is free to push weed on consumers as much as they want.

Herc
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Herc
4 years ago
Reply to  MikeyC

Over 50000000….that’s 50 million…invested to flow from Marlboro….let’s all pool our mom and pop money to compete with that……

MikeyC
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MikeyC
4 years ago
Reply to  Herc

it’s a warehouse and some trimmers. You guys already have all the equipment. Obviously you’d have to start out at a smaller scale. If you sit on your hands and wait they WILL take over. But I will blame you guys, not them, when that happens.

Brad
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Brad
4 years ago
Reply to  Herc

You have sources for this claim or just making things up?

Herc
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Herc
4 years ago
Reply to  Brad

My one source is first hand confirmation from someone who asked to remain anonymous…that works with the county. Mendo…told me absolutely its true….another source is from a person that confirmed this while I was in the office getting my livescan

CoveDweller
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CoveDweller
4 years ago
Reply to  Herc

Marlboro does not fund Flow Kana.

wtf
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wtf
4 years ago
Reply to  Herc

more fake news bullshit

Herc
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Herc
4 years ago
Reply to  wtf

I believe you !

Herc
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Herc
4 years ago
Reply to  Herc

I believe you here’s a good idea…hey flow…why not just be transparent and tell the community exactly what company and or who invested this much…….they can clear this up …..

Rearden
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Rearden
4 years ago
Reply to  Herc

Source that Marlboro invests in Flow Kana? Everyone keeps throwing this around, nobody has a source. #fakenews

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  MikeyC

~you won’t hear me complaining about capitalISM, MikeyC.

Growers do not need, ask for, or want to be “pushed toward a more organized system”, by a corrupt @System@. Why would you think that? Don’t you think that if Big Daddy had the wherewithal to step out, the people would, in general, pull together? I do. Especially here in the Emerald County. {And, i’m thinkin 20 million armed Vets would tend to agree}

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Do you ever participate in REAL reenactments of the Civil war, or do you just dream of starting a FAKE new one?

Sparkle Mahn
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Sparkle Mahn
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Pegged that sucker.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Sparkle Mahn

Lunatic fringe
We know you’re out there
But in these new dark ages
There will still be light

An eye for an eye
Well, before you go under
Can you feel the resistance?
Can you feel the thunder?

barn owl
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barn owl
4 years ago

Factory work. Lab coats. Minimum wage. And no employees from Whitethorn. Whatever.

MikeyC
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MikeyC
4 years ago
Reply to  barn owl

I don’t recall any local farmers offering health care and dental? And it is as much factory work as a normal trimming job, just in a different setting… so can’t use that argument either… And since when are lab coats a knock on a job? If you live in Whitethorn, I don’t think you are very serious about seeking employment… big mistake moving there if so.

Liz
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Liz
4 years ago
Reply to  MikeyC

Plently of Whitethorn folks work regular jobs in Redway and Garberville. I know I did when I lived there.

Smoke Screens
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Smoke Screens
4 years ago

Total propaganda

Faro
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Faro
4 years ago

Arnt these the guys that ripped off a bunch of farmers down in Mendo? I would think twice about sending your harvest to these guys, half of it might disappear.

Doctor Doom
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Doctor Doom
4 years ago
Reply to  Faro

I hear that in the white market they can take up to 100% with no legal recourse once it leaves your hand you might not ever see any money our product

Been there done that
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Been there done that
4 years ago
Reply to  Doctor Doom

Local growers are just pawns to add value to their books. Nothing in their contract indicates they have to pay you anything. Once the COA is preformed under their liscense type; it’s legally their product. They know growers will roll over like beaten dogs when threatened with litigation.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

” They know growers will roll over like beaten dogs when threatened with litigation.”

~i disagree. Like when FDR threatened cage a hefty fine if the persons didn’t turn in their gold. Persons complied. NOT the people.

Corporations can’t sign what you refer to as contract. Corporations have no brains, eyes or hands to sign anything.

“The Earth belongs to the living, not to the dead.” Jefferson

Original
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Original
4 years ago

Horrible vibes!!!!!
RIP Emerald Triangle

Original
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Original
4 years ago

Gorilla army marching on

Jesus, Chris
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Jesus, Chris
4 years ago

Well, hmmmm. And Starbucks is trying to take over Coffee Farming on Hawaii, starting with a million Kona Trees in Holualoa…

Fetzer and Phillip Morris have proven that big money will operate cannabis distribution in the US. IMO “small farmers” have a place in this show, in the short run, but this little advertisement for Flow Kana, and the promotional photos attached, look like propaganda shown to attract more product, and more cheap labor. This thing is just getting off the ground, but it is a good sign that Southern Humboldt folks will be working in a different industry, and soon.

These Cannabis Operations do not hire educated folks, and appear to be exploiting the presence of low skills and highly exploitable individuals. Rolling joints for $8-10/hr doesn’t seem like a good job to me, ADA kitchen or not.

Most of this action is suited to backwoods “leftover from the green-rush” facilities, but it’s all going to move to town soon…

Lab coats indeed…

Kym Kemp
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4 years ago
Reply to  Jesus, Chris

$15 per hour for trimmers plus vacation and benefits. I just looked it up here (https://www.bupt.jobs/jobs/flow-kana/cannabis-trimmers/1560769927370525051?utm_campaign=google_jobs_apply&utm_source=google_jobs_apply&utm_medium=organic) I believe those are the same folks who do the pre rolls.

hfhfhf
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hfhfhf
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

15 an hour isnt even a living wage. Maybe their work force could live in some place like KS where 15 an hour would afford them a basic living and then fly back to CA every day for work. I’ve worked for the legal trim scenes, far worse than the illegal grows. Mostly incompetent newbies who have no experience that will follow the carrot because it’s their best choice. Health care and vacation you won’t get to use as they get rid of you before the probation period ends, or maybe cut your hours down to prevent that as well.

Mendo
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Mendo
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Why is my comment about Flow Kana Buying black market cannabis from White market farms been removed Kym?

Kym Kemp
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4 years ago
Reply to  Mendo

It is there. You just used another name.

Jesus, Chris
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Jesus, Chris
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I do hope that someone who is “rank and file” there will post a copy of their paycheck… I read “minimum wage”, not $15/hr…

The problem with cannabis employers, is that they don’t want to pay anyone a decent salary. In “cannabis testing labs”, for instance, they expect GC-MS experience, but want to pay $18/hr…

In a developing industry, the Fetzers have the best niche, as real-estate investors, finance, and business. It looks to me like the best facility, and the most profitable one, will be secure climate controlled storage, just as in the wine business. Many people have become wealthy by storing grape juice in tanks, for short periods, and storing cannabis products has similar potential, IMO…

The Fetzer family gives private financing for real estate purchases, from single family dwellings up. Be sure, if you do not qualify for conventional financing, to give the Fetzer folks a call. You will need 40% down, but they will invest in anything, creating loans which they can then discount and sell.

Many many ways to make money off cannabis, and pot farmers. See how many YOU can find!

Billy Casomorphin
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Billy Casomorphin
4 years ago

Hey, grow your own. No lab coat required, no corporate supply chain, no exploitation of poor people for labor…

And, in CBD news: Liver toxicity, suicidal ideation, CBD cures nothing? Expose yourself to some truth about weed!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeadams/2019/07/07/fda-says-beware-of-cbd-for-these-reasons/#2df714d3300d

It is interesting that Flow Kana has these guys posing in bandannas and lab coats, while they stand during their 8hr shift rolling doobies… Hey, Flow Kana! Ever hear of Ergonomics? Repetitive stress injuries? Lab stools?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago

Billy,

That’s an interesting read. You definitely try to make it sound worse than the report actually is, but it is a good read.

Just don’t buy into the CBD hype blindly. 

Although, as far as we know, cannabis derivatives are safer than other medications, we still have a lot to learn about this cannabinoid before we can say, without a shadow of a doubt, that its safety and efficacy for conditions ranging from pain management to cancer treatment has been adequately evaluated. 

And that’s how it sums up.

Further, I wonder about the suicidal thoughts. Were there control groups with placebos? Doesn’t the stigma of taking any medication invite self-criticism due to the idea your “not well”?

Nonetheless, I’ve said it here that the CBD hype is weird and overblown.

Billy Casomorphin
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Billy Casomorphin
4 years ago
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Brian,

There is a shortage of real research, including double blind and highly controlled/peer reviewed studies.

Mostly what I read is “more study is required”, and “results are inconclusive”……

Thanks for your thoughts, and for my money, CBD is the best product, to scam money off the masses, since snake oil… Unfortunately, many of the scammed are seniors.

Flowmart like Walmart
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Flowmart like Walmart
4 years ago

Dont worry mom and pop farmers, If you know a licensed farm then reach out as the licensed farms are playing middle men for Flow Kana and will happily buy your buds for a low price and resell them to Flow Kana under their farm name for a much higher price. This keeps mom and pops and the corporate farmers all in balance, it also keeps Flow Kana both in support of the white market as well as a hand in the black market. Farmers can thank flow kana for the High prices right now since Flow kana has been buying up everything on both the white market and the black market that they can get their sticky fingers on. It must be profitable to have a hand in both markets. They are running on a “profit loss” for the next 3 years as they undercut and build their monopoly, then they will begin droppping the prices they pay farmers by 50%. Insider scoop, so there you have it! Profit loss, just like Walmart till they knock competition out and secure their Monopoly.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

~ten thumbs-up.

john
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john
4 years ago

Grow your six. It’s like any summer harvest and share it your friends/neighbors.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

~the prohibition of graven images comes before the prohibition of murder.

That F.K. is in SoHum (a No Hum posing as a Hum), serves no purpose but to dull the emerald’ vibes.

Support Small Farms
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Support Small Farms
4 years ago

Boycott all Dispensaries…. Black Market pot is cheaper and usually home grown. When ever possible buy direct from the farmer and leave the greasy middle men like Flow Kana out of the loop. We all know organic homegrown when we see, touch, feel and smoke it. Who needs corporate cannabis if you have good neighbors and friends who grow. Picked up 2 pounds of bomb bud last year for 1600 total, thats $800pp, that beats $45 an eighth or 200 an ounce from the dispensaries, and, not only did I save, but the farmer made off better than Flow Kana was offering them. Remember to always buy farmer direct and save while supporting small farmers directly!

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

Yes. Yes. Yes.

C'mon 2020 elections
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C'mon 2020 elections
4 years ago

Let’s vote these exploiting theiving scumbag supervisors to the corporate rip off curb !!!!!

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

~can we just get in a big field and do it by applause -like in Marijuana Logues?

Lost
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Lost
4 years ago

I was told to work for them. At $15 a hour I still can’t afford a place to live over food. The work is really hard on your body. I’m glad they provide benefits because the job/pay will make you sick.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago

I think that big distributors like this are something to be Leary of.. in any AG Market… Most of them end up extremely corrupt and screwing over the farmers while making lots and lots of money. They eventually become very controlling over the farmers practices… Or instute loans for very expensive equipment that are essentially just about break farmers.. I think, In order for Small farm Cannabis to survive, it’s also important to support smaller processors and distributors.. Big prossesors/distributers like this, really only spell trouble and consolidation… How do you think they are able to have such nice facilities..? Because they don’t pay the Pharmers or the workers in perspective to the wealth they create..
I understand that the price has dropped, or will possibly in the future but why not pay workers also a #Unit price on top of thier wage..?
Eventually they will hook u in, bottom the Pharmers profit out, and people will be working for little to nothing, only enough to Maybe make ends meet.. barely.. while they count thier stacks.. Just another FlowBucKs…

Down with gavin
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Down with gavin
4 years ago

This is fenells dream come true this is corporatizing humboldt,stealing prosperity from the people and giving it too CEO’s. And too corparate profit margins. Leaving us all too be compliant slaves not making enough too have a place to live and eat. Proof is rite here

shak
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shak
4 years ago

Don’t worry. Soon the dredged ports will be finished and the slave ship pirates can make make more dough without having to travel the pothole route… or so they think.