‘Grassroots’ Cannabis Road Show Coming to a Town Near You

Press release from Redwood Roots:

Redwood RootsSouthern Humboldt’s locally owned and operated cannabis distributor, Redwood Roots is embarking on five week, seven stop farmer outreach road show.  Geared as a grassroots, potluck, family style, get-together where ideas and solutions for what has and has not been working in the new regulated cannabis industry can be exchanged in a low pressure casual environment. The stops are strategically located throughout the Emerald Triangle and its various appellations to be logistically convenient for licensed cultivators to attend. Starting in Willow Creek on Memorial Day weekend and ending at the Benbow State Park across the 101 from the Redwood Roots facility on June 22nd. The gatherings will be from 3pm to 7pm on Saturdays and Sundays.

“With change and struggle arises the opportunity to work together and bring back the barn raising vibe that made this place special.” says, Co-founder/CEO, Chris Anderson. “The end goal is for all of us to thrive by working together as a community. Similar to how the redwood forest roots are intertwined to strengthen each tree against the forces of nature. ”

The local cannabis community is encouraged to attend their local revival and meet the Redwood Roots Family that will work as a farmer facing, community driven distributor building bridges that ensure commerce and prosperity to our tight knit group of ganja warriors.

May 25th Willow Creek at Veterans Park

May 26th Telegraph Ridge Fire Department

June 8th Heartwood Institute

June 9th Hayfork Fairgrounds

June 15th Mattole Valley Community Center

June 16th Laytonville Harwood Hall

June 22nd Benbow State Park BBQ

For more information call 707 923-1236, email [email protected]  or follow us on Instagram or better yet, just show up with something to share, food, drink, knowledge or good vibes.

Redwood Roots is a homegrown community focused cannabis distributor that works with multi-generational farmers and canna-artisans providing a local platform that brings their craft cannabis to market while keeping true to the roots of sustaining a healthy community and environment.

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Willie Caso-Mayhem
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4 years ago

🕯🌳Thank you Kym for that information and link.

Farce
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Farce
4 years ago

It’s funny that many to most “permitted farmers” are actually growing- as we speak- with expired permits. Guess the state never jumped at passing that emergency bill to reinstate their permits? So they are blowing up huge illegal grows, illegally protected by county and state government and then allowed to sell their illegal product illegally on the Original (black) Market. All while they pay fees that in part fund eradication programs against their unpermitted neighbors! And somehow we are expected to respect them?!! I have an idea….Let’s say NO and not respect them. Personally I think the state and county should do a round of eradication on huge farms that are operating openly with expired permits ie. illegal mega-growers… That would be funny!

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

I mean… wishimg the cops on anyone is a huge karmic no no

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
4 years ago
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Yes it is.

I’m sure you’re referring to the licensed one’s who are everyday fingering their unlicensed neighbors. Nazi Germany revival meeting.

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago
Reply to  Rod Gass

Both of em. A buncha rats around here these days.

Davy Jones
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Davy Jones
4 years ago
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They’re going to put the queen rat on display in the Broken Yolk. along with your planning department.
I don’t see how David Katz with the k is allowing his building to be used by people who’ve ruined so many family lives. I hope everyone who’s involved has good insurance. I see Calamity coming.

Yellow
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Yellow
4 years ago
Reply to  Rod Gass

Most neighbors wouldn’t really do that, but you will probably get an abatement notice anyways nowadays.

roots
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roots
4 years ago

Grass roots, redwood roots?
A borrowed New York Subway station logo and concrete bridges.

I’m confused.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  roots

~that’s really funny. rolling on floor, funny.

Good luck. Blaaaaa hhhha hhhaaa
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Good luck. Blaaaaa hhhha hhhaaa
4 years ago

Going against investors with tens to hundreds of millions to invest the local farmers never stood a chance.the county just wanted to grab all the money they could from these people. Theres hundred acre plots of farmland that are greenhouses as far as the eye can see in better climate pumping out thousands apon thousands of pounds year round. These local sellouts and spineless rats don’t stand a chance.we were an outlaw culture and the greedy caved with little resistance in Hope’s of continuing there greedy little lives,a decision that will leave them broken. But that’s the carma there building by paying to wipe the poorer mom and pops out. Eat your carma.

This is America
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This is America
4 years ago

actually quite the opposite the facts are if you know how to grow weed and produce a decent product an acre of cannabis should yield over 1.2 million dollars . these are the best days for some and the worst for others .This is America..

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago

Yeah. Definitely up against a torrent of canno flood. For sure. But I don’t know.. I think us smaller folks are actually a force to contend with. Why do you think they want to tip the scales through unjust practices against us so bad? Is it because they think we can’t be “successful”? I don’t think so. I think it’s because they are terrified of us being successful. We may be chasing a mirage here.. but that mirage just took a grip on the whole nation..
But yeah.. definitely bad practices on the state and county level.

Jorge Cervantes
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Jorge Cervantes
4 years ago

Most of the so called “legal farms” up in Willow Creek are almost all greenrushers who came here to exploit our county for their own financial gain. Ruining many residential neighborhoods . If anything these parasites need lessons on building and supporting community.

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
4 years ago

Jorge what’s the story with emerald ff not growing this year in willow creek? I’ve heard some gossip but not the real story. My guess is there’s more money in buying and selling other people’s product with their label than in growing? Just a guess. It’s quite the trashy weed patch this year. Pretty sad!
All the permitted farmers are either idealistic do gooders (like the people putting on this feel good event) or trying to get rich quick newcomers, both of whom are not likely to succeed once legal weed goes big.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

~at ye ol Supes’ meeting Tuesday, during the Interim Urgent Hemp Moratorium Ordinance item, the head cheese of -maybe grower’s alliance? One of those – she said that mj was coming in from out of Humboldt and being labeled Humboldt.

just sayin.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
4 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

The 8 acres of crappy hoops are soon to be replaced with two 4 acre glass greenhouses. Thats whats going on. They have a new head grower too.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

“They have a new head grower too.”

~i’m guessing he’s from San Diego? Maybe one of John Ford’s relatives or friend.

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Em fam is actually gold folks who worked hard and came up and have given lots of folkams jobs. At the very least they have been here since dead tour ended and at least they havemt stopped puttin money into the local economy.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~that’s good to hear.

Farce
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Farce
4 years ago
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Ha Ha! You’re deluded or a paid mouthpiece. I know the 2 non-local guys well and for many years. (Still the 3 main guys? One local, one from Jersey, one from Carolina). Can’t speak about the local sell-out but those other two are straight green-rushing opportunistic scum running the local mom n pops into the ground to maximize profits and have been busy inviting out-of-the-area interests to partner with or buy them out. Those guys are exactly the problem. I’d love to see the feds eat them. Oh no- karma on me for saying things out loud!! Ha Ha Ha!

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Ok so local.means what? And im neither delisional or paid. But they are paid. Their workers are paid… Dont be so jealy. And yes. However being a computer warrior iant saying things out loud amd i doubt youd have the gumption to say any of that to their faces.. Are you a “local?” Or can only people born and raised somewhere take part in whatever local induastry ia thriving? After 15 years i consider myself “local” cuz i live here.. Same as these guys who raise families… And like any business in america there are investora.. Shoot if ita a good deal to make yer business more succesful you wouldnr take investors? I imagine yer a lil jaded but thats ok. Have fun wishing cops on people. What a farce. And probably and old custy [edit] from dead tour as well..

Farce
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Farce
4 years ago
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15 years puts you squarely in greenrusher zone. I can tell you’re insecure by your attitude! People like you and Brian and especially Patrick have come here out of greed and ruined our county. Say what you like. We know the score here and how it really went down. Nobody is jealous of your clever manipulations and selling out of your neighbors. In your greenrush mind it’s all about money and bling and status. Oh wow- They pay their workers?!! That’s what you got? Pathetic. We never should have welcomed any of you parasites with open arms. Our mistake!

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

What are u talking about? Wherever someone lives they are local…go back to pornhub. You dont get to choose who lives where bud. R u born and raised here? By yer standards half the population isnt “local” . and i am a local and i dont grow weed so have fun wkthbyer assumptions.

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This guy
4 years ago
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Very meam to call me a parasite when in truth i.probably do.more for the area than u do. I have no horse in the weed race nor do i em fam farms. If anything playing advocate cuz of haters like you and i see them do more for their community than u dl. So anyo e who has.moved to humboldt on the last fifteen years is a greenrusher? You sound very prejudice and salty.. Chances are youve made more money off of pot than i have.. But again, you have a lot of names in your.mouth and dont evem use yer real name but will talk shit on real people. Pretty lame bud. Pretty lame. Go say it to their faces im sure theyd give u a job if u needed it. The faster you go the rounder you get.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Farce,

Are you referencing me?

(Or a fake Brian)

I assume your talking about somebody else.

Boo hoo local crap
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Boo hoo local crap
4 years ago
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So as a “local” your family must be responsible for some native American genocide. Way to toot your own bloody horn.

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago
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Why do you edit the term “wook” i really cant believe u have any real. Knowledge of tour life or tour terms and of all the things you decide to wage war on the word wook.

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Derogatory? Its a lot word kym. Its more of a term of emdearment and fun. Shoot. My wofe is a lil wookie. Just sayin its really not a bad word and i wishbyou werent so pc about something so benign. Its a descrptive word descrining someones clothing attitude or general mess. To call it derogatory and put it in the same catagory as say “fag” or whatnot is just plain silly. People say asshole all the time on here.. Thats pretty derogatory. Wook.. Its funny and i hope you dont lose a reader cuz of something like this.. And i strongly contend that the “urban dictionary definition of wook. I know plenty that are successful and happy and great and not in their twentiea but are still wookies. Its a lot term. Do u know what lot used to be?

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

If u think “wook” is derogatory there may ne no hope left.

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someone else
4 years ago
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if i could facebook like your comment i would.. but elderly? as my wifes 95 year old grandma said to a 70 year old.. talk to me when you hit your 80s.. and on your website comment section.. ok.. you rule the roost. but in the real world, wook is a perfectly acceptable term to describe someone without it being “derogatory”

Perspective
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Perspective
4 years ago
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“tour life”, LOL! What tour??

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago
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John mayer tour brah

Down with gavin
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Down with gavin
4 years ago

The locals that defied the hill code and sold out there neighbors in Hope’s of still being hill rich.lol. have fun batting against the mega rich corporations. Carma for stepping on the old hippies that were your friends and neighbors since childhood. Carmas coming for ya all. Greenhouses as far as the eye can see in the valleys with hundreds of millions backing them.the county just took every thing you had and will leave you in debt and broken.
Building bridges to the sellout cheese platter

How I learned to stop worrying and love the abatements
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How I learned to stop worrying and love the abatements
4 years ago

Lovin’ these comments keep ‘em coming!

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
4 years ago

I applaud Kym Kemp for her continuing professionalism in modern journalism. This reads as an exposae rather than a call for peace.

Redwood Roots says … Inviting all cannabis farmers.
” ” ” Inviting all licensed cannabis farmers.
” ” ” logistically convenient for licensed farmers to attend.

It’s impossible to fathom the truthful intent. One should realize that Redwood Roots doesn’t state the facts.

Confusion compounded by confusion, promoted by #64.

Faro
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Faro
4 years ago

The writing was on the wall that the hammer was going to come down and that the only way to survive was to go legal. I can’t blame anyone who went legal because honestly the real world isnt that awesome. Don’t get me wrong, there are tons of big time scum bags who went legal and I hope they get their karma. But a lot of good old school people went legal.
The small time pot growers were screwed from the beginning, they never stood a chance. Prop 64, the abatement program, and increased funding to the water board and fish and game are what is really killing this county. Don’t blame the legal farmers for everything.
Good luck to Redwood Roots and all the good people still in the game.

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago
Reply to  Faro

The legal farmers are the ones greasimg the wheels of all these agencies so they are def to blame. 100%

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
4 years ago
Reply to  Faro

The legal farmers made a faustian bargain (deal w the devil) when they entered the permit process. They put their names in a database, paid outrageous fees to county and state and consultants and signed up to only sell in CA which is never where humboldt weed has been sold in the past. They also pay for the enforcement of their neighbors who didn’t enter the legal system, which has created a mistrust in a once tightknit community. The code enforcement guys actually told me they look for illegal farms in a circle around a permitted farm, in order to make the point that you need to get permitted. What a bunch of horseshit. I’m glad I chose not to go down that road.

Faro
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Faro
4 years ago
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Hypothetically, what if nobody signed up and went legal? Fish and game would still be tearing this place apart. The water board would still be sending out hundreds of letters. The state would still be sending in the national Guard. The county would still be abating the entire county and making plenty of money from fines (no need for tax dollars).
But it’s all the legal growers fault right?
In my opinion this place was screwed either way and maybe signing up and making a little money wasn’t the worst decision.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Faro

“what if nobody signed up and went legal?”

~that makes no sense.

Legality is not reality.

“The state would still be sending in the national Guard.” With “The County’$” weak-willed blessing.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Faro

Fargo, No, Honestly I do not think so, because they wouldn’t have the funding to implement and enforce these policies.. even with the “fines from properties”

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Faro

Yeah, I don’t think all people who went legal were aware of the unintended consequences. Just remember that often the Devil is in the details, and the path to hell is often paved with good intentions. I definitely think some of the legal farmers are definitely out to criminalize and economicaly punish and tank the smaller farmers for sure.. They have become like a “Super PAC” whispering bad things into powerful people’s ears. The BIG MONEY ADGENDA is definitely on the table here in the triangle. Better believe it..

Farce
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Farce
4 years ago
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All good except…1) The “legal” growers pay fees which are used in part to fund eradication of their unpermitted neighbors. When was this ever acceptable?!
2) Planning Dept head John Ford has said repeatedly that the abatement process was prioritized by mapping permitted grows and then drawing concentric circles around them. Then they targeted the unpermitted grows within those circles, expanding outwards. So…permitted growers literally targeted their neighbors for prosecution!
These 2 points are true. People don’t want to admit or talk about them. People SHOULD be ashamed. But they aren’t! So…I shame them. With the truth. How dare you?! Personally most permit people I know came here late in the game, made LOTS of money and now want more- to the point of selling their operations to out-of-state corporations. That is the new “clever” way out. I would just like to be clear about what we have done, who has sold out and why some of us do not like what you have done. These are not the community values you said you shared with us. Those who changed nothing but kept the same are being destroyed by agencies that have been aided by those who want money and safety for themselves, without regard for the community. I rightly call them “government sympathizers”, “sell-outs” and ” collaboraters”. Sure, they might be nice people but they are also all I said…because my 2 points above are true.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Farce, I agree, your right, these facts are undisputed. And your right, people should be ashamed. Personally, I appreciate you pointing out these facts to people. This system they have created is inherently corrupt and inhumane in so so many ways. It’s an absolute disgrace. The powers that are have taken an inherently corrupt law, and replaced it no less with another inherently corrupt set of laws. But I do think there are bad players on both sides.. and there are good people.. On both sides..

Farce
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Farce
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

Small Fry- I don’t disagree. And in retrospect I might even remember that the “concentric circles drawn around permits” strategy was implemented by John Ford AFTER the first round of permitting. I had some good friends who went for the permits very upset about that. But…none of them have spoken up about it! ha ha! They agree it is terribly unjust and that it benefits them but…not one single permitted farm has spoken out about it!! So…I have to wonder where their hearts and souls got to…and so I just keep saying it out loud. Honestly we should all be together fighting the huge corporate grab. But they split us up- smart move from corporate headquarters

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
4 years ago
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And that, Mi Compadre, is the rub. They conceived of and hammered a wedge into the heart of our once before peaceful easy lifestyle. They sought after financial fortune and infamy. They’ve proven there’s no bottom to man’s hypocrisy. Lucky for us, they don’t consume human flesh. They steal whatever they desire.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

True..Divide and conquer.. we all should have been smarter than this in the beginning of legalization… but greed blinds that is certainly true. But I don’t know.. these coporate puppeteers are masters of spinning truths, and driving wedges… so, while I personally understand people are angry, and they should be… I also think that driving that wedge even deeper only plays to thier advantage. I mean, I appreciate your guys up front honesty about the situation.. And it doesn’t mean that people should just roll over and take these injustices either… or be quite about it.. but.. I don’t think all people who signed up are bad or mega growers or have bad intentions.. just like I don’t necessarily think ALL Original farmers Are bad either.. I know I am on repeat here.. But I just think it’s kinda the easy way out to label all people as this or that and personally, that is a trap I would like to avoid…

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

Yeah, I hear ya. The whole darn circus is frustrating to me also.

Just a cautionary point of view though. We’ve never before been this close to the Freedom Of Weed. I believe we got there with 215 but the prohibitionists and taxmen revolted. This time 64 created the wedge that we see everyday being pounded into the souls of us who are old enough to comprehend. You know that very few people actually are veterans of this Cannabis War. We must remind those who tread and skip in frolic over the bones of the OG within our beautiful Triangle.

Cannabis rules. People will count on it’s herbal goodness long after this celebration settles down. The realization of what harm was orchestrated in the name of “legal” will sour and taint the minds and spirits of the upcoming children. “Great Grandpa, why did Dad join the enemies of Cannabis?”

jojo
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jojo
4 years ago

I run a legal farm and we were able to make a profit of over 100k last year.
The legal system does work, there is not as bad of competition as you would think with corporate cannabis farms.
Did you know the legal cannabis market ran dry in march, everyone was able to sell every last lb they grew legally. Sure there is problems, but don’t think were all going out of business. I know a lot of legal farms who are above water and are doing great! Its not as hard as all the nay sayers make it out to be.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~just curious. Is your legal farm contained in greenhouse(s)?

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago
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Not buyin it.. Prove it

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
4 years ago
Reply to  jojo

And you employ track and trace and don’t sell on the black market at all? Mmhhmm

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
4 years ago
Reply to  jojo

I know a lot of “legal” farmers who killed it last year too. They made a lot more than 100k profit as well. They grew a ton of weed with no fear of getting busted, then sold the majority of their weed on the black market for a huge profit because a lot of people were busted and a lot of weed was locked up in the track and trace program. The rest of the pot they sold on the legal market is all backed up in testing, turning brown, yet to be sold. Thats why the legal market went dry is because the majority of legal weed is backed up in testing facilities and the rest of it was sold on the black market for a higher profit.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  jojo

Legal is a grey term regarding canna-business.

Theres a bigger than huge chance that you are not tracking and tracing.

https://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/9578485-181/california-cannabis-market-not-traced?sba=AAS

You likely sold to the same homies you sold to 5 illegal years ago.

Your product is likely already in Kentucky.

Unless you give your business name, so we can see if your enrolled in track and trace, we will likely scoff at your remarks.

If you dont give your business name, like a legal business would (because theres nothing to hide, and its advertising), then you’ll be likely be disregarded as a grey market grower.

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Yeah for sure you’re attempting to make a good point here, but the middle connection didn’t work. Something or other about the grey legal businesses who aren’t crooked nor correct or maybe the other way around.

Can you clarify?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Rod Gass

Rod,

Weed is only making money because it is exported out of state.

Oregon has a 6 year supply for their consumption rates and legal weed prices are plummeting.

“What we didn’t fully think through when we legalized the industry we had is the fact that it was also primarily an export industry,” Smith tells Rolling Stone,referring to the amount of marijuana Oregon growers were producing for the illegal, out-of-state black market, before going legit.  “So suddenly you had one of the best and most prolific growing regions in the world was hemmed into a market of less than 4 million people.”

Smith has been working with lawmakers on proposed legislation that would allow Oregon to start exporting pot to other legal states by 2021, and hopefully save remaining local small businesses from imminent collapse. 

(Rolling Stone, 2019, “What is Oregon going to do with over a million pounds of excess weed?)

How many permitted growers in the State of California use track and trace?

And of the nearly 4,000 licensed growers, only about 7 percent, or 254, are using the high-tech system, according to a review of state data.

https://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/9578485-181/california-cannabis-market-not-traced?sba=AAS

Now, I could be wrong, but I’m going to bet that JoJo is in the other 93% that are not involved in the track and trace program.

So really, if that’s the case, JoJo has yet to experience the system she is vouching for.

That’s the grey area of legality in CA right now:

7% regulated
93% grey area

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Well in Oregon they didn’t punish people for being “medical” either, you can have 48 plants on the medical system as well “legally”..

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

I dont know about that.

I do know:

They didn’t cap the amount of farms or production in Oregon, they did in Colorado.

It made a difference.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Oregon Senate voted no on limiting the state’s supply of legal recreational marijuana, siting that it would be “socialism”…
They also passed a bill that could eventually allow Oregon to import and export cannabis across state lines—and give the state’s pot industry a head start when national cannabis laws change in the future—passed a vote in the Oregon Senate Wednesday. It will now move on to the House floor.

That’s because Oregon actually supports it’s industries instead of trying to control every aspect of people’s lives and finances like California has chosen to do..
And they will be ahead of the game for it..

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — Two of the first states to broadly legalize marijuana took different approaches to regulation that left Oregon with a vast oversupply and Colorado with a well-balanced market. But in both states prices for bud have plummeted.

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/marijuana/report-colorado-hits-the-mark-on-marijuana-demand-supply-balance

The difference is that in 6 years, if you go to Colorado and buy pot, it will be fresh.

If you go to Oregon in 6 years and buy pot, it will have been grown before I typed this.

Another difference is a whole lot less investment losses by individuals and more.

Sounds ok to me.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

What in blazes are you talking about? Maybe you haven’t purchased any cannabis from Oregon for sometime, because there is plenty of “fresh” cannabis to be had… currently. Maybe take your head out of those statistics and take a real look at what is going on around you.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

I buy 2 grams in Oregon twice a year.

The same amount of times I’m disappointed with their “best” flowers.

I’m sure there is good stuff in Oregon, I just havnt seen it, or have a very different definition of “best” flowers

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

T.R.B. That doesn’t discount the fact that there is plenty of fresh flower to be had in Oregon. I know there is plenty of prime Cannabis abound in Oregon for affordable prices. It truely is a Canno paridise in so many ways. When Cannabis goes legal federally. They will be a serious force to contend with.
Now, cultivation is welcome in some areas.. not in others.. they are definitely cracking down on some aspects, I think they are making that “cannabis Jail” (large ugly barbwire fence right on the 199) come down. Which is good. But they also haven’t terrorized people for minuscule things either.. And they allow medical canabis within reason. The realestate prices have remained largely stabel.. despite the ups and downs of the market..

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Or, people start practicing a little restraint and common sense and start producing with the capital they have and the markets they have, instead of blindly overproducing. Or using the government to financially terrorize thier Neighors… The Government doesn’t need to be involved in inherently deciding the compitition by taking people’s homes. That is just a perpetuation of injust policies.. But I guess your OK with that? WOW…

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

Small fry, you said:

Or, people start practicing a little restraint and common sense and start producing with the capital they have and the markets they have, instead of blindly overproducing. 

Look:

SALEM, Ore — For the second year in a row, Oregon cannabis farmers have harvested more than a million pounds of usable marijuana.

The huge harvest (more than 453,592 kilograms) is again driving down prices for consumers and putting pressure on growers who aren’t getting the price they hoped for after a similar phenomenon in 2017, The Bulletin reported Thursday.

Oregon’s cannabis market is limited to sales within the state’s borders, yet the state of about 4 million people has 1,107 licensed active producers and another 900 producers seeking licenses from the Oregon Liquor Control Commission.

There is also no cap on the number of licenses issued by the state, but the commission did place a temporary freeze on new applications last summer to try to address the glut.

“Everyone is concerned about this,” said Adam Smith, Craft Cannabis Alliance executive director. “You’ll see people going out of business in the spring when it’s planting time. There are far too many in the industry in distress. No one is making money here.”

Growers harvested more than 2.5 million pounds of cannabis in October. Of that so-called wet harvest, 1.3 million pounds of usable marijuana was logged into the Oregon Liquor Control Commission’s cannabis tracking system as of December, according to the agency’s latest report .

In 2017, the fall harvest reaped about 1 million pounds of usable marijuana.

Last year, cannabis farmers statewide cut back the amount they planted, while others didn’t plant at all, and some surrendered their licenses, said Don Morse, a Portland cannabis consultant. As of Wednesday, 70 grower licenses were expired, and 57 licenses were surrendered, according to commission data.

https://www.columbian.com/news/2019/jan/04/oregon-again-sees-huge-2018-marijuana-harvest/

Why are you arguing so vehemently for a failed system?

You advocate for self-control, but you ignore the fact that on a whole, most will not employ self-control.

That is why Emerald Triangle hillsides are covered in trash, slash and cash.

And few are happy about it.

Now, Oregon, with thousands more people losing tens of thousands of dollars each, is exploring why they failed in comparison to Colorado.

The CAPs work.

SmallFry
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4 years ago
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Sorry T.R.B. take a drive down the main street of Eureka, or Gville, or Redway with many closed storefronts and poverty abound and tell me that the policies the state and county has implemented here is not just another “Failed System”? Are there environmental and other issues to be concerned? Yes. Slash for cash, isn’t a good policy either. I agree on that level.
But neither is letting the state and county blindly extort people. If they were going to “Cap” the market, they should have Kept the Acreage caps they lied about in the beginning. And they should have kept the Kaps on the size of square footage they allowed in the hills smaller.
The Caps in California are an epic failure. It’s done nothing but allow huge conglomerates to stack licenses and use heavy handed tactics to financially terrorize smaller markets. And smaller neighbors. It’s an absolute disgrace is what it is..

Smallfry
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Smallfry
4 years ago
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And didn’t Agro Giants also pretty much take over most of the cultivation in Colorado as well? So how is that better?

The Real Brian
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4 years ago
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Name one “Agro Giant” that is dominating Colorados weed market.

Bet you cant.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
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https://www.acreageholdings.com/ Let’s start there. Who hired “John Boehner” Republican speaker of the house. The pictures of these guys in thier suits.. yuck! Miles and miles of Green houses. Investment capital like $112 million dollars..

Starbuds. Need I say more??

But excuse me, California is an entirely different beast. Colorado’s system may have worked for Colorado.. (Even though it actually didn’t really work for everyone, and there is a lot of “Licensing consolidation”) But, it is not a good model for an agricultural giant of California. Or Oregon. It just simply unrealistic to enforce it on California’s large population. It’s also mostly indoor operations. An entirely different beast..

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4 years ago
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Acreage Holdings does have a lot of investment money.

And they are aggressive and slightly-shady by some research.

I thought you were talking about Big Ag or Tobacco when saying “Agro Giants”.

Here’s an awesome article from the Spotlight team @ Boston Globe.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/special-reports/2019/03/21/seahunter/okkkbXkh38kTkH9HDiiFXL/story.html?camp=breakingnews:newsletter.

Acreage, of New York, claims to be the largest cannabis purveyor in the nation, and drew national media attention when it appointed as directors former Massachusetts governor and potential presidential candidate William F. Weld and John Boehner, a former House speaker.

Both companies are run by private equity and investment veterans; both have publicly traded stocks, with hundreds of millions of dollars at their fingertips. And both have offered investor pitches that seem to look right past Massachusetts license limits.

Sea Hunter and Acreage are trying to multiply the “rule of three” out over a much larger network. They have been buying or backing a series of businesses that each, in turn, is seeking to control up to three licenses.

But what su cessful American business is not aggressive and slightly-shady by some research?

What to do?

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4 years ago
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Yep Brian you’re right. You back up common knowledge with facts, which is helpful. So what will happen when track and trace has some teeth? Or will it ever?

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4 years ago
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If track and trace goes into effect on a wide scale, many more people trying to stay legitimate will feel the Oregon pinch.

The company that developed the software made some good money, though.

In June 2017, Florida-based Franwell beat out four other software companies to win the contract for California’s track-and-trace system. Franwell hit the pot-tracking jackpot, with a contract valued at up to $60 million for the first two years.

Franwell started making tags with radio transmitters in the early 1990s to track fresh foods. Then they focused on items that need to be traced securely, such as pharmaceuticals and weapons. Five years ago, when Colorado set out to implement the first cannabis seed-to-sale tracking system in the country, regulators in that state contracted with Franwell to develop the Marijuana Enforcement Tracking Reporting Compliance system, better known as METRC.

But if and when it goes into effect:

“It has been a critical component of Colorado’s accountability, and arguably the success of our framework, since the advent of the recreational marijuana market,” said Jim Burack, director of Colorado’s Marijuana Enforcement Division.

Colorado’s METRC system automatically notifies regulators if something seems off with data submitted by businesses, such as a gap between the amount of cannabis expected to be harvested from a plant and what actually gets sent to market. Colorado also has data analysts who regularly review the information gathered by the system to look for red flags.

https://www.record-bee.com/2018/09/20/marijuana-merchants-growers-squirm-as-state-gets-into-seed-to-sale-tracking-system/

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4 years ago
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Who watches the watchers?
There are loopholes built into any and every system.

Passing laws, after the fact, that provides retro active immunity.

Big Pharm
Big Telecom
Big Canna.

The whole system is rigged. You either play ball and pay the mafia, black or white, or you can spend a lifetime trying to do the right thing and maybe eek out a successful career in spite of your setbacks.

This game works, as long as you know how to maintain the all too critical tight rope in life, and if you get the chance to break through, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg style, the common man made good, just remember you are always taking orders from the higher ups.

Hook or by crook, no one can stand in their way.

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4 years ago
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Brian,

The ups and downs of Colorado and Oregon merely reflects the simple truth … California leads where others follow. The race to “legalization” isn’t about who voted first, it’s about who got screwed the most.

The Bureau of Cannabis Control is enlisting all sorts of weak, unaware people who trust Gov Newsom. What’s their vision of the future? Have any of them studied the historical significance of cannabis trade across the continents? You know, the expansion of our species. No, what is mine is mine by law. What a tax show.

My question keeps evolving, “What good is legalization”? The idea failed previously so they need to try again? Maybe Oregon got it correct, it smacks of “socialism”.

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4 years ago
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~this needs to be said again, several times over.

“The race to “legalization” isn’t about who voted first, it’s about who got screwed the most.”

Cmon 2020 elections c'mon justice for the people
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Cmon 2020 elections c'mon justice for the people
4 years ago

Nazi Germany all hail furor fenell and the stupidvisors ss

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
4 years ago

Stupid comment. Ever heard of Godwin’s law? You lose the argument when you compare your enemy to hitler.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
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Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot…

The Balfour Agreement is rarely brought up when historical light shines on Hitler.

The history is so deep, so convoluted, that a PhD level dissertation on Tragedy and Hope might help you come to terms with our small mindedness.

Yellow
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Yellow
4 years ago

Maybe a 3D laser printer and some hempcrete could also build a few bridges how is that for a bright idea .💡
Or houses, schools and or a commercial buildings and processing facility’s.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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Yes! Yes!

There’s a bridge in France built in the 1800’s made of hemp – it still functions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4kKxY7KNyw 3:22 Grandma builds her hemp home in Washington.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d_wsoZS6j0 7:52 Building with Hemp – An Incredible Natural Insulation & Sustainable Material

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Down with gavin
4 years ago

Another reason to vote out the thieves and extortionists and civil rights treason running the county,we should be able to grow hemp.theyre saying they have to get it schemed up into there extortion scheme permit theivery program before they’ll lift the moratorium first. Here’s an idea let’s vote em all out for the false representation and blatant violation they’ve consistently bestowed on us !!!!

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago

Its funny that even journalist writing about hemp these days seem to only focus of cbds and whatnot comoletely ignoring that it is a fiber and food crop and has been for millenia.. Oh the miopic humboldt pov…

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4 years ago
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~sad, but true. The lame stream media catering to the “wise ones”, is the force within a force, supported by the $ mentality. We can’t eat money. Hemp seeds have been the reliable source of food when famine happens << not by accident.

A prohibition on planting hemp is a prohibition on food supply – crime against humanity.

Of course, we’re speaking of those who don’t know up from down. “Is it medical”? “Is it re-creation”? “Is it hemp”. “Is it Made in Humboldt”? After over three years of public interference into the private, they still don’t know.

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4 years ago

Smallfry,

This comment is continued from here:

https://kymkemp.com/2019/05/24/grassroots-cannabis-road-show-coming-to-a-town-near-you/#comment-816434
for more space.

I hear your concerns. I think you would enjoy this article if your a reader:

https://www.salon.com/2018/11/25/big-marijuana-vs-craft-weed-will-cannabis-conglomerates-ruin-small-family-farms/

Regarding closed stores, and the related concerns in that nature:

The way I see it is that the1980-2010 weed prices were extremely overpriced, including “medical”.

Why?

Because high demand and low supply.

The high demand had numerous reasons.

But the low supply can be attributed to the risk involved back then, correct?

There was a risk. Helicopters and the law were a real fear. Less people were inclined to risk their freedom.

Throughout the USA people were smoking California pot, and getting busted for grams – serving years or decades in prison.

Why was there risks associated with growing and smoking Cannabis?

Because the War on Drugs.

Prohibition and a war on Americans, essentially.

Generally when we see a more traditional war in the world, and a group of people are making a financial killing from that war, we would call them “war profiteers”.

I think there is a case to be made that all cannabis growers have been war profiteers.

With that said, the business’ closing is only a sign that the industry was severely in need of hemorrhaging its inflated values.

There will be ripple effects.

But I wont advocate “going back” to the “good old days” of war.

And though I’m not a fan of red tape beurocrocies, the amount of environmental destruction on private property over the last 20 years in the name of weed is gross.

I’m also not a fan of people who cant run a good business anyway. Naturally, they’re the first in this culling.

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SmallFry
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4 years ago

T.R.B.
Interesting Article. However.. I think the approach to call the victims of this ‘war’.. ‘war profiteers’ is slightly convoluted.. The war profiteers mostly would be the for profit prison complex, courts and other departments who made a killing off of unnecessary and unreasonable fines, unjust sentencing, and unjust asset forfeiture. And now they are looking for away to make up that balance. Many people lost MORE than everything, they paid the costs with their freedom.. This notion that the “Cannabis Industry” was untaxed, to me is unfounded…
Was the economy of the triangle based on a mirage? probably. But I think that the effects of legalization would have been way less traumatic if the county and state had allowed for a smother transition.

While implementing some codes and laws is responsible and reasonable…I feel like THE ABUSE of them is not. This is a misuse and unreasonable ABUSE of the tax and civil codes to protect private profits. These fines are unreasonably inflated and applied without any solid proof. Your pretty much guilty before proven innocent.
While we can never go backwards, we can only move forward. But.. the way forward shouldn’t be based on a unjust and inhumane foundation. That is just another recipe for disaster..

And culling? Sorry , but what is this? The Canno business ‘Purge’? ..Might as well make it legal one night of the year to go rip up plants in your neighbors yard. Lol. Just kidding bad joke.. but it’s kinda like what these tax and county codes are inherently doing…

Rod Gass
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4 years ago
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Yes SmallFry, and more of the same.

One spoke in the wheel we’ve yet to explore is the licensing schemes. From the top, the peak of “legal”, the procurement of the license to be “legal” seems to be easily controlled. The who, what, when, where, why and how is corrupt. Anyone with enough money to spend, can become an overnight sensation in the Emerald Triangle. Adequate money is the ONLY requirement.

So … when the scheme of everything cannabis comes under California and minor Government agencies … the rich and powerful are the winners. Producers of the product are marched in step towards “legalization” or disposed of. Outliers who refer to rights, freedom of choice, self-sufficiency, wrongs that are obvious, are tomorrows’ composted nutrients. Independent lifestyles and open mindedness become a liability to “legalization”.

People empowered by other people’s money are weird creatures.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago

If your talking about abatement fines. I COMLLETELY agree.

Arbitrarily over-expensive.

Hemp for victory
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Hemp for victory
4 years ago
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The fact that the feds gave hemp a green light and Humboldt is still “thinking about it” is pretty messed up. Just goes to show the tru colors of people in power. Why don’t the people get a say in that? If hemp is federally legal how is it any different than fields of corn or any other crop? Oh that’s right you can make CBD oil from it! And help people! But noooo if they can’t figure out how to get their cut well then it’s a problem. Humboldt County stupidvisors need to wake up!!!

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago

You can make illicit substances from all kinda of plants that grow everywhere wildly… Humboldt just got ahead of itself and california is the epitome of a liberal power tripping communist state