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Wouldn't it be nice
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Wouldn't it be nice
4 years ago

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Willie Caso-Mayhem
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4 years ago

🕯🌳Even though he started off by running from the police my condolences and prayers to the family. 🕊🕊🕊

Ben Round
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Ben Round
4 years ago

Are you implying that because he ran from police, that he might be less deserving of your condolences and prayers? Surely, Mr “Caos-Mayhem”, you have done things where you challenged the authorities. Right?

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4 years ago
Reply to  Ben Round

Then the point might be would he take the blame for the results of his own actions or not. “Deserving” is a pretty useless standard to apply to anyone in a case. And speeding at 100mph down a shared country road sinks far below the vague “challenging authority” analogy for tolerance. No one wished him or his family his fate despite your assuming that but no one is obligated to ignore what he did.

Ben Round
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Ben Round
4 years ago

So sad. So many friends I know/knew have ridden motorcycles at excessive speeds. Many youth are protected from the consequences of their actions. I am sorry that young Mr Lafranchi was not granted the same allowance.

Savage
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Savage
4 years ago
Reply to  Ben Round

[edit] He endangered people’s lives. Not exactly an upstanding member of society. He took his own life as a result of the stupid decisions he made. I, for one, am not saddened by this outcome.

Savage
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Savage
4 years ago
Reply to  Savage

Way to edit the comment just because you don’t like it. That’s methed up. Nobody was disputing what I said. His own friends are saying it. A “journalist” should not censor people.

Kym Kemp
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4 years ago
Reply to  Savage

If you accuse someone of something criminal on my site, you need to do so with proof. Either it is provided in the post or it is provided in a link. The post doesn’t provide that information so you need to do so. If you can provide proof, then of course you are welcome to state it but until then it is viewed as possible libel which is illegal and not allowed on this site.

Savage
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Savage
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

B.S. It’s all over the LoCo comment section. Besides, you cannot libel the dead. Nice try though.

Kym Kemp
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4 years ago
Reply to  Savage

If you believe everything you read in the comment section, may I interest you in the Flat Earth Society and Michelle Obama is really a man theory? Both have been advocated in the comment section here.

On my privately owned site, I do not have to host any comment I don’t want to. You, of course, have every right in the world to go write whatever you want on your own website. But over the years I’ve run this site, I’ve come up with rules. https://kymkemp.com/2018/05/20/commenting-rules-on-redheaded-blackbelt/

While you are right that you are allowed to lie about the dead legally, on my site you have to have proof before you accuse anyone of anything.

And the rules of my site say that I can’t say that Savage molests little boys without proof and that proof does not include the anonymous comment section on any site. Even if seven other people are saying it on LoCO, no one can say it on this site without some reasonable proof such as an arrest record. If I don’t have any proof that you molest little boys, then I can’t accuse you no matter how much your moral character might be obvious to someone of my great wisdom, I am forced to not accuse you without proof.

It’s morally the right thing to do. And, if you thought about how you would feel, if someone accused you without proof anonymously, you might agree.

Savage
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Savage
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I would defend myself or if I couldn’t there are people that would. But nobody is doing that, with the exception of people saying he’s was a nice guy. And no I don’t just believe anything on LoCo, but they are pretty detailed about his [Edit: Stop it, get proof or get deleted] Not even a single person defending him disputes it. It all lends credibility to the subject at hand. Could they all be trolls? Sure. Is it highly unlikely they are all trolls? You bet.
My original point though, about LoCo, had more to do with the libel issue, which was backed up by my next sentence. My point was you said it was a libel issue and it clearly wasn’t. Then you pivoted to it being a moral issue.
I would put money on what I said was correct. And what’s your issue with molesting little boys? You could’ve picked a plethora of crimes to tie me into, yet you chose that? Are you just trying to be shocking to prove a point?
Oh and by the way, he was arrested, per LoCo, for weed sales. It’s not illogical to think he would kick it up a notch. By all accounts this man was not a morally upstanding character, which appears to be very important to you, but a person who is contributing to the downfall of our community. But hey, you’re the journalist, go journal. Go uncover if he is the antithesis of what you represent, or exonerate him.
P.S. I know you won’t.

Kym Kemp
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4 years ago
Reply to  Savage

My point and my rule has stood long before you wrote your comment. There is no pivot. You have to have proof before making accusations. You don’t have to like the rule but if you want to post on my site, you have to follow it.

I don’t care how detailed someone is about their accusations. Anonymous sources are not enough for you to post an accusation on my website. You are right that it isn’t a libel case in the case of dead person (I had not known that–now I do) but it doesn’t matter to me whether it is illegal, it is immoral for me to allow accusations of illegal behavior without proof. I acknowledged that you were right about that point but it doesn’t change my mind that it is immoral.

In some cases I might even believe someone is likely to be correct about their accusation without proof. That isn’t the point. I will not allow it if there is no proof.

And as to me using molesting little boys, it was because I hoped that you might actually be able to grasp why anonymous accusations are not okay if I posted it that way. I was wrong again…

And, Yes, on the next point, it is absolutely wrong to think that because someone was a grower they also do other illegal things. Just as if someone jaywalks doesn’t mean they would do a hit and run.

My point is not whether he was a morally upright character or not. People are allowed here to point out that racing off when the police are trying to stop you is not the sign of a law abiding citizen. But you are not allowed to make accusations of criminal behavior that you don’t have proof of.

This seems to be a difficult concept for you. I’m sorry. It’s simple. No one deserves to have accusations made about them without proof. Otherwise, anyone could make any accusation about anyone. You could accuse me of beating my husband or another person of murdering someone. I have found that is a place on my website is too problematic for me to want to deal with so I stop it whenever it happens.

You are absolutely right that when YOU make an accusation I don’t have to spend my time to prove or disprove it, you do.

If you can’t handle that, this is not the comment section for you.

Savage
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Savage
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

So what I see is I was right about this, that and this, but wrong about about something that I don’t have a link for and never will. Which doesn’t make me wrong. But there are sources that back up what I said. You could just as well accuse a non anonymous source if they told you to your face of what I said of being false, just because there is no police report or other documentation to back it up. Things are reported all the time with anonymous or unnamed sources in the news all the time and treated as fact. I did not make up those claims, only repeated them, and I wouldn’t have done so if I didn’t think they were credible. Again, no one has disputed what I said.

There are many aspects that point to the fact that this man was immoral. Criminal behavior on multiple accounts, disregarding my original comment. I’m sorry you don’t see the irony of you defending an immoral person on the grounds of morals.

Kym Kemp
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4 years ago
Reply to  Savage

I’m sorry that you don’t see that deciding on someone else’s morals based on anonymous gossip is a not only a moral failure but an intellectual one but…there we are. We just have two very different ways of looking at the world.

Savage
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Savage
4 years ago
Reply to  Savage

I think you missed the part where I said his immoral actions were decided before my assumptions from anonymous sources began. Getting arrested for illegal activities and running from the cops, both of which are verified, are not the actions of a moral person. The other stuff just fills in the puzzle. Keep doing your mental jumping jacks though.

Kym Kemp
Admin
4 years ago
Reply to  Savage

Your anger started when I edited out an accusation that you had no proof of. This is the issue you began arguing. If you feel strongly that I am wrong on my decision, then you always have the option to boycott the site.

Savage
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Savage
4 years ago
Reply to  Savage

Nah, that’s no fun.

But lets be clear, there was no anger on my part. I just called you out. You came out. We did our dance. It seems to be over. Catch you on the flip flop.

I’m still right though. ; )

MommaKitty
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MommaKitty
4 years ago

This was a friend of mine. I ask that people keep any negative thoughts to them self. His family and friends are suffering enough with out him here now. It’s not nessisary to add to the hurt that people are already feeling. He had a huge heart and was kind to so many. He was to young and had so much life left to live. May somehow, someway his family and friends find some kind of peace tonight. May they hold the there loved ones close in his memory and honor the life he lived and try not to dwell on the horrible way he’s passed. Thank you for your time.