Benbow Man Released After Sheriff’s Office Determines He Acted in Self Defense in Shooting
The suspect being taken away in cuffs from the scene of the incident. [Photo from the HCSO]
The Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office Criminal Investigations Division has completed interviews and has reviewed the evidence associated with the shooting that occurred on the 300 block of Twin Trees Road March 20, 2019. At this time, the Sheriff’s Office has determined Thomas Neil Harris to have acted in self-defense.
Mr. Harris was released from the Humboldt County Correctional Facility in the evening of March 21 per Penal Code 849(b)1.
This case is being forwarded to the District Attorney’s Office for review and final determination of charges.
Earlier Chapters:
- Shooting on Twin Trees Road Near Benbow; One in Custody
- Benbow Man Charged With Attempted Homicide After Shooting Yesterday
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🕯Hmmmmmm.
Nice!
It’s good to hear it was self defense, just like a lot of people presumed. My heart goes out to him for having to resort to such measures, but I’m also happy for him that he was able to stop violent action posed against him. Like the saying goes, “it’s better to be ready and not need it than to need it and not be ready”. (Close enough I assume. I’m a meme hoarder that can’t find that particular one due to too many memes hoarded).
Zbigniew Brzezinski: ” It is infinitely easier to kill a million people than to control them”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GO2U9jJoWsM
There is a philosophy in these words that can’t be scrutinized enough.
The truth will set you free.
You’re over my head, but I think I get where you’re coming from. Their last hope for global dominance was to convince all nations to send money to the main hub in Paris?
In some states and many countries he would have still been arrested. The use of lethal force in self-defense is not universally recognized.
Luckily, this is still the USA.
“The states that have castle doctrine only with the duty to retreat in public are Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, New York, New Jersey, and Rhode Island. This means that people can use deadly force in their home, car, or other form of abode but have to retreat in public.
Vermont and Washington, D.C. require citizens to flee from criminal assailants, even within their own homes.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law
Life will ultimately be controlled for the sake of the environment through the commerce clause.
Robots are much easier to control then these pesky free thinking humans that multiple like rabbits.
“Logans Run”
I don’t doubt it. Most of the mechanisms are in place. The right crisis at the right time will put the final nail in the coffin…
Just like 9-11 and the Patriot Act.
Absolutely. But the good news is, what goes around comes around. That act is biting them so hard in the butt even the news anchors are bawling.
Hahaha, yep.
…
30 minutes to Mueller Time! https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1109894666596569089
Shak,
Don’t get too excited.
If the President is indicted, no one will know until he leaves office.
Plus, the most guilty (besides maybe classified information) has put a few in jail already.
Also, more investigations are just opening.
Surely you know the Trump was deemed “untouchable” by big big banks for loans because of his debts. Until Russian connected Deutsche Bank gave him a nice 350 million loan.
Anyhow, no one should be celebrating anything yet.
Unless celebrating some swampy criminals that are already sentanced.
Hahaha, Mark already beat them to Scribed. https://www.scribd.com/document/402897279/The-Mueller-Report
“DID NOT ESTABLISH CONSPIRACY OR COORDINATION WITH THE RUSSIAN GOVT BY TRUMP OR TRUMP CAMPAIGN. DID NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.”
https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/democrats.judiciary.house.gov/files/documents/AG%20March%2024%202019%20Letter%20to%20House%20and%20Senate%20Judiciary%20Committees.pdf
The real doc release
LOL Erik, that says it all! Great meme to add to my collection.
An oldie but a goody smile for you too. The “at this point, what difference at this time does it make?” song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9GzKO1OgVc
typo at my 12:51 post. I posted the letter, not the doc as stated. I’m sure the readers figured that out by now, but even so, I feel a correction is in order, so here it is.
It’s definitely a good thing that any younger Trumps were not indicted.
It’s also good we don’t have a foreign agent as President!
The last thing that Trump haters will say is that history will judge him- after having spent trillions of public funds to prove themselves right with no results worth mentioning. Never have so many searched so long and so hard with such little result just to try to convince themselves that they weren’t as stupid as they were in the last election. Like the Fake Moon Landing and the Shot from the Grassy Knoll and the Government Blowing Up the Twin Towers, the people convinced that Trump worked with the Russians to Steal the Election From Clinton will fall into urban legend and never let it go.
Will Trump ever be convicted of anything? Maybe some minor things as no one leads a perfectly blameless life and witch hunts can manage to find witches in a Girl Scout troop. But really there was no reason to involve Trump in the Clinton fiasco- their own arrogance took care of that without any others needing to get involved. The real villains in this was that nasty segment of America eager go prove themselves superior to other Americans by trying to out hate each other. That they were so eager to beliefve any amount of crap is why they were such easy targets. No big conspiracy needed. Just a nudge on social media and over the cliff they ran and they haven’t hit bottom yet. God, what a liability for America.
Dang Guest,
“No results” is quite a statement.
The 9/11 Commission Report did not result in any arrests.
This Russia Investigation did. 3 or so,huh?
With Trumps turnover rate, where do you think Manafort, Flynn or the other guy would be if they had never been looked into?
***Hold on. Your facts are also off the amount for spent for Russia investigation.
Counting direct and indirect costs it was last filed at 25 million. It will likely be finished at 26-28 million. No billion, no trillion, no trillions.
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Personally, and I’m sure you have seen that I’m a 9/11 guy, I think one of the largest mistakes of the 9/11 movement years was to claim the government blew the towers. There were other mistakes too.
However, that does not negate the possibility, and as many qualified experts have said, the probability that SOMETHING blew those 3 skyscrapers.
If you pressed me on my opinion, we were caught off guard and attacked by an ally.
The 9/11 commission report
led down many Saudia Arabia roads regarding the hijackers and financing.
I think theres enough evidence to say that more should be known. Indeed the best people are still quietly at it.
The Real Brian- first in counting costs, there are many that are above and beyond there committee itself. The public media has spent buckets of money, the Democrats have spent outside of committee as have Republicans. There is the cost of not doing government business while they were fiddling around trying to convict. And that doesn’t count the private attorney costs. And all of that is still ongoing. And will be going on as long as there are people who think they can make hay from their paranoia.
As to the people convicted or even indicted, if a rock were lobbed into the House of Representatives’ Chamber, it would stand a 99% chance of hitting a representative whose associates are even more guilty of the indicted crimes, if not the Representative themselves. Then bouncing off and hitting three more who were just as venal and think that they are protected in the crowd of “Everyone knows How DC Works” government parasites. Trump called Washington DC a swamp and it is. Influence peddling is ubiquitous. Then, if cornered by subpoena, most would like, lie, lie too with the confidence that they, unlike Trump, are protected by the Silence of the Swamp Confederation of Crooks. It’s not that Trump is a saint but that those politicians hunting him are just so much more practiced at swamp life and leading the public around by their collective noses.
Bob,
thanks.
Guest, well said about how awful it is for those who weren’t allowed to hear the news that would have otherwise prepared them for the news. I was so happy it was finally over, I didn’t consider that there might be people out there who fully believed the narrative by the msm. Thank you for highlighting that.
The news echo’s your sentiments. From Hannity to … Pierce. Even Michael Jordan walked away from the madness.
Hannity was pissed enough he couldn’t hold back any punches, but I’ll post his segment because he covered a lot of valid points that were also covered by others but not all in one segment or anchor like he did.
Well said Hannity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz53EEa8w8g&feature=youtu.be
I believe California has a castle doctrine, and we effectively have stand your ground based on case law going back into the late 1800’s. My ccw instructor indicated that California has some of the best self defense protections based on a rich history of settled cases rather than specific laws which could be repealed or changed.
Ummmm it wasn’t lethal force. Duh. Headshot is lethal force. He intended to wound him. And he did. Bravo
No in the courts any use of a firearm is lethal force
Regardless of the outcome the use of a firearm constitutes a “deadly weapon” and is treated as lethal force in the courts.
Rover, I ask ’cause I figure you know, would use of a bow and arrow be lethal force? A firearm can “accidentally” discharge, being already loaded. It takes an intentional act to draw an arrow. It cannot accidentally discharge while in a relaxed state.
p.s. I am an archer.
I’m sure that any use of a bow and arrow on someone would constitute the use of a deadly weapon…. theoretically that goes for any weapon that has the capacity of killing someone: baseball bat, rock, fists (in some cases), knife, spear, etc.
What kind of bow do you shoot? I’m a avid longbow shooter.
Recurve, 30 lb, break-apart. Wife has an old recurve one piece 21 lb. So far, just shooting targets. It was two to three times a week. On a bit of a hiatus right now since the Humboldt Archery club lost their range so the city of Eureka could make a few extra dollars. We live in city limits which means any projectile (bullet, arrow, BB, airsoft, slingshot) is not allowed (baseballs and apple pies are probably ok). We’ll be hitting the outdoor 3D shoots in Fieldbrook this summer. Also visiting San Diego soon where there are some ok-ish outdoor ranges; the break-apart is nice for traveling.
Nice. Here’s a little secret: stump shooting is a heck of lot more fun than any 3D course. Head inland to some long stretches of USFS land. We do it every weekend for years now. Beats 3D courses by a longshot.. pun intended. Also, excepted archery parlance is a “takedown” bow. Any bow that “breaks” is not good. Have fun.
Thanks. We’ll give it a try. And we’ll be sure to bring a good knife and chisel for arrow head recovery. Seen some arrows stuck pretty good on the 3D course. And, “takedown”, got it. Don’t want to sound like a grommet.
Per your suggestion in a previous post, I looked up Hinterland. You and yours I’m guessing? Haven’t read much yet, but the pics are nice.
Ullr,
How about that Faith Miller out of Lewiston?
Sounds like she’s taking all the International events.
I’m not an archer, but I’d love to see her, archery and Trinity get a blurb here on Kym Kemp.
Got a good story to tell?
Flinstone, definitely carry a stout knife. You can mitigated some of the problems with different points. I use small game thumpers (SGT)… if you are using carbon arrows just put a washer behind your point. It will limit how deep it stick and keep it from disappearing into the grass. Yes, we are the Hinterland Rovers and we 10’s of thousands of arrows loosed in the woods and you can find 1000’s of pictures through the “leatherwall” on stickbow.com.
Brian, I was unaware of Faith. Good on her. Shooting a compound bow and shooting a “traditional ” bow are world’s apart. One is manipulating a machine one is manipulating yourself. Our little group was covered in a story in the Hupa paper some years ago.
Cool, thanks for the information!
Don’t go beating up on the elderly you might get a surprise.
Never FUCK with an old timer!
Pardon me?!!? 😉
There is a saying, don’t mess with an old man. He is already mad because he is old. He has likely done and seen it all and doesn’t have the time or the patience for any bullshit and will pick something up and hit you with it.
Poor Tom is such a nice guy and people just keep messing with him. Hes already been beat so badly he needs a cain now.. damn tweaker neighbors won’t leave him be though.
How sad, I’m glad you didn’t have to spend too much time in jail before they figured out the truth. I hope they leave him alone now and he can enjoy the land I’m sure he’s worked so hard for.
they might leave him alone now. lol
Sounds like a living nightmare. It’s surprising when you get old young punks think they can have their way with you. I put 3 idiots down in the last four years in 30 seconds or less. Learning self defense when you’re young seems not to go away.
Hi, do you have any way to contact Tom? I would love to give him my best wishes after reading about this very unfortunate incident.. Very glad to hear he was released and not sitting in jail.
From an extended family member of his,
Sean.
[email protected]
It’s nice to hear some good news once in a while!
I’m elated he is free.
Humboldt like many other once quiet small towns is now filled with drugs, insanity, greed and violence. Law enforcement can’t be there to protect us, so we should all have the right to defend ourselves by whatever means available at the moment.
You can fit three Rhode Islands within the size of Humboldt, the county. Maybe a lack of staffing is inevitable. Glad this gentleman did what he did after reading the water tank talk here yesterday.
Amen to that.
You calling me inzane? I get ssi for that.
Yea Coletta your so right, Thanks to the Green Rush!!!
Well the green rush is over. Folks like yiu have ran off all the money. Your expensive permit process has brought in big canna money. So what you have now are hills full of weed and profits that end up down in the bay area where the corporate people live. I’m not sure where you think the money in the county will come from. I see it as a good thing because one by one all the city folk who loved up here to open a mom and pop business well they will be out of money and out of business and maybe it will go back to how it was back in 88
I got your back tom .
Did his “victim” leave Thomas Neil Harris’ property and off the hill?
Yes, in an ambulance.
Hey Kym, SWAT in Mck. What’s up? Asking you, cuz you’re the best!
They’re getting us desensitized to military operations in the neighborhoods….
or it was a 50 something mentally ill tweaker threatening to blow up the neighborhood. the problems in the north make the problems in the south seem meaningless. 90% of the problems in Garberville will go with the economy, it won’t be the same for Eureka north.
Yeah you guys do have more druggies up there, good luck with that in the long run. When you belittle people’s problems it just makes you seems arrogant but nothing new there
It for our safety, and the children. Think of the children. And sorry about the dead dogs, we felt threatened.
Renter’s rights should be curtailed with informal tenant arrangements especially with older people who tend to invite young people in ,thinking that the person will help with things they can no longer do while giving the young person a place when they need it. Unfortunately a whole lot of these arrangements turn ugly when the younger person takes advantage and bullies a fragile older person. This is so common that it should be considered elder abuse and there should be a simple method for an older person to get a protection order AND have the police enforce it. Such situations should not be a matter of the police being able to beg off getting involved by calling it a civil case and leaving a person to try to save themselves while a very expensive and slow court system leaves them at risk.
I’ve been on several sides of the dilemma you are pointing to. I agree that some change of law needs to help when the informal agreement is used to abuse the person who gave shelter. In those situations I’ve been fortunate to have enough informal social power, and friends, to talk the person into leaving in a reasonably timely manner. No threats just a willingness to impose my displeasure and make leaving the most comfortable option.
However, I’ve been in the position where the person giving shelter made an unclear exploitative agreement and was cutting their losses or increasing their gains by taking more away from the informal tenant. Sometimes the old person was abusing a young person, sometimes the other way around. Sometimes the tenant was abusing the landlord, sometimes the other way around, sometimes mutual BS.
I’ve seen a lot of old people abused by their landlords too.
I’m afraid that we could fix one problem and make the other one worse.
The courts are such a horrible place to resolve disputes. I’ve seen community mediation backed by community pressure work fairly well. I’ve won in court as both a tenant and a landlord. In neither case was it worth it except that it bought me time to make a better arrangement the next time.
I’m glad this man is free and that the squatter is no longer threatening him. Next time perhaps the old saying, “Need help? Call a hippie!” should be tested.
Sounds like maybe there still might be a couple decent law enforcement people in humboldt county. Was thinking they we’re all corrupt and unconstitutional theives.at least some of the time a man can still defend his own life on his own land and not be framed up and falsely persecuted in the USA
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If somebody is on your property against your will, they should be removed by the police period…Unless a contract has been signed preventing this. The trespass laws in California have become nothing more than a joke.
You can make a citizen’s arrest. Something that should be done more often.
https://www.shouselaw.com/citizens-arrest
Ullr Over. You go ahead and make a citizens arrest in a rural area with weak cell service while a person is trying to physically harm you. The rest of us will use lethal force. At least I for sure will. It’s about time. The perpetrator is lucky it was in the shoulder and not the head!!
Go get’em Shawn Cherry, I got your back!!!
Me too…..
Beautiful!!!
Lost,
thanks.
That mossberg setup looks almost identical to mine. Slightly different fore grip and the light on the right side.
The slugs are a nice touch, practical and add to the “holy shit” visual deterrent effect.
I live in area with no cell service. A citizen arrest does allow you to hold a person under threat of force. You can’t legally shoot someone for trespassing but you can arrest them. I’ve no issue with self protection using whatever force is necessary. Beware the legal repercussions.
When this was happening to my friend I called adult protected services and they said that as long as she had been there for some years and had her stuff there she had to be legally evicted. Later he was murdered and she may have been involved, but the cops don’t care about some old guy getting strangled in alderpoint.
(no, THC, you’re wrong. a contract is not necessary)
I understand that it’s not necessary, it should be necessary. If somebody is on your property with no sign contract you should be allowed to remove them anytime you want.
Kudos to Harris for defending himself.
Well done!
Mericah!
roundhouse!
damn straight