Some Changes in Cannabis Related Code Enforcement This Year
Press release from the County of Humboldt:
Humboldt County Code Enforcement uses a variety of tools and information sources to actively identify, investigate, and notice property owners who have unpermitted cannabis operations on their property. If you intend to legally cultivate cannabis in Humboldt County in 2019, you will need both an approved county permit and a state license. However, if you do not have both approvals when you are cultivating, you are in violation and are likely to receive notices from Code Enforcement in 2019.
You can apply for a cultivation permit, by coming to the Planning and Building Department. County staff much prefer helping cultivators achieve compliance through the permit process rather than taking Code Enforcement actions on those who are cultivating outside the local and state permit processes. If you are unsure about what is or is not allowed please see the Commercial and Personal Use Cannabis Ordinances which are available on the Planning and Building web page.
Taking into account feedback from the public, property owners, and counsel from both sides of the process, this year’s notices will look a little bit different than the nearly 700 cases from 2018. The Planning and Building Department issues civil code Notices to Abate Nuisance and Notices of Violation and Proposed Administrative Penalty for unpermitted cannabis operations, which often also include violations for unpermitted structures such as greenhouses, unpermitted grading over 50 cubic yards, and unpermitted development in streamside management areas.
Last year’s notices were more generally worded and the fines were consolidated into a category. That will not be the case this year. These changes will provide Code Enforcement staff more flexibility based on the scale and impact of an unpermitted operation when issuing notices, as well as when resolving these cases though abatements, compliance agreements, and appeal hearings. The bottom line is active enforcement on unpermitted cannabis operations has continued through the rainy season and staff will begin issuing notices again in the near future.
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Extra-legislative policies created by bureacrats without representative oversight?
Who are the most powerful people in America?
https://youtu.be/ZwmUH5AGydQ
~it’s the Doctrine of Separation of powers that’s gone amok.
Even the Fire Chief in Eureka was writing an Ordinance in 2016 (the year of the Great Ordinance)!
Had to do with selling butane. Nevertheless, Not on his job description.
Here an Ordinance, there an Ordinance, everywhere an Ordinance.
Language, Thought, and Reality
“Policy” is not law.
“How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!”
–Samuel Adams
There was a promise made to the Mom and Pops how many Mom and Pops have been issued permits 30 or under maybe even 25
Some people truly take care of medical people you are saying only 6 plants which is the same as personal use I am holding you personally responsible you have created a tragedy Estelle Fennell
6 per parcel.
Even worse.
Not the way prop 64 was written.. or prop 215..
Fuck those fuckers.
Interesting case out of Fontana . Here :
https://www.pe.com/2018/11/09/fontana-loses-marijuana-lawsuit-other-cities-might-have-to-ease-rules-too/amp/
FREE THE HERB!!!
~we have to be the rude jerk of a boss and lay down the law with liens and threats. If these things are in place in advance*, the house of cards can fall in our favor. The @System@ is corrupted and the courts are broken, the men and women in these laboring positions are robots and do not possess the brains that the freedom community does.
United States v. Freed, 401 U.S. 601 (1971). Persons may be bound by a novel application of a statute, not supported by Supreme Court or other “fundamentally similar” case precedent, so long as the court can find that, under the circumstance, “unlawfulness . . . is apparent” to the defendant. United States v. Lanier, 520 U.S. 259, 271-72 (1997).
*The Liens Are In Place: California Secretary of State Office in Sacramento.
*The Threats Are In Place:
Meas. Z, Unrebutted Declaration in Affidavit form, December 31, 2014.
Case # DR 160135 Meas. Z, March 15, 2016.
Case # DR 160161 Commercial MM Land Use Ordinance, March 25, 2016.
Process server delivered to twenty-seven parties of interest.
That this has not happened for the best is no sign that the process is irrelevant. It is only a testament to the collective resistance.
Collectively we know lots of stuff.
It is all coming together people . . . checkmate, through the looking glass we go. The parallel pyramid is complete and missing no stones.
“One day after I am long gone, you will remember me and say, We should have stopped the nuclear program of Israel, abolished the Federal Reserve and kicked all secret societies, occultists, usurpers and Zionists out of our wonderful country, to keep it that way, but it is never too late, just remember that.” J.F.K.
“After the final no, there comes a yes and on that yes the future of the world hangs.”
–Wallace Stevens.
We’re on our way home . . . the land of our birthright [Kansas] . . . Pacific Northwest style!!!
~as we move forward in this ^^^ way, THAT, would become the transformation we have been unconsciously hoping for. THAT, would relentlessly make community/society over. THAT, would eventually shatter the influence of all cartels and monopolies of physical and emotional and mental and spiritual experience. Not because we wish it were so, but because we make it happen.
Emerald Triangle,
The hour is yours.
Dude, central humco, why are you posting every third comment on this site? [edit] your comments are garbled and incomprehensible,[edit]
The inalienable rights to grow and smoke cannabis freedom of religion and spiritual rights as sacrament for the people
Jeffersonian,
~what sentence or paragraph can’t you grasp?
True, hopefully Steve Madrone elected official will carry out his campaign platform w/ under 1k sq ft… read an article today that legal permit farms are pushing towards making home cultivation totally illegal. Let’s see how they stand up for us after we helped them getting laws passed. I think they’re too selfish & self-centered to bargain or advocate for home cultivation & 215. The least these farms could do is hire locals to help the local economy but, they don’t.
We the voters surely need to thank our elected reps for hurting up our local economy so badly, and for staying the course after the negative impacts have been pointed out. Way to show strength guys.
Ms fennel came to humboldt specifically to grow pot. She told the news, but that did not buy property, pay bills or collect any wealth. [edit: Can you provide any links to prove this?]
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But now she is able to speak with authority on how this economy didnt build anything, including the kmud, except enviro problems.
Makes me wonder what her scene looked like.
Also makes me question her depth of understanding in economics and sociology.
Signs of the thriving economy in sohum.
C’mon now .. i dig estelle being a public servant and open to ridicule and all but leashes n leather kinda crosses the line… idk Kym will decide .
And u can go on this site :
https://www.acrevalue.com/plat-map/CA/Humboldt/
and see pretty accurately who owns what where Estelle and Kathleen own a big chunk of property in sohum.
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And the ACLU reported on that victorious case out of Fontana as well http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/2017/06/drug-policy-alliance-and-aclu-california-sue-city-fontana-over-ordinance-conflicts-righ
And the attorney for the case JENNIFER MCGRATH, her website reports on the case too but I don’t want to flood this thread with links.
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FREE THE HERB!!
What could have been a great thing for Humboldt has only become another awful move by the county. If the county could have had enough insight to have seen what working together with the great people of Humboldt could have done, they would of had more money than they could have dreamed of. Humboldt was famous, and now thanks to politics, Humboldt is just a county where it’s citizens are having to struggle to do what they do best. Also treating Medical and Recreation policies the same, is just ignorance! When you enter the data into the system at a dispensary do you understand that Medical 215 information should be covered by the HIPPA privacy act, and that by treating them the same you can not be protecting medical patients information as the federal law requires. Don’t clump Medical and Recreation policies together, there are privacy, and major health issues that your ignoring by doing so. Amazing how bad politics can ruin a good thing.
That’s a great video, thanks for posting it.
I’ve seen a rep taking the talking points from a panel of non elected’s. It’s safe to assume that they don’t take orders from the reps, the reps take orders from them. (the bad reps, not the decent reps).
Well now, the gov is sending the national guard to enforce code violations? The gov is a punk
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/20/supreme-court-states-cant-impose-excessive-fees-fines-forfeitures/2919411002/
State and local governments increasingly use funds collected in criminal and civil cases to pay for municipal services. The 100 cities with the highest proportion of revenue from fines and fees in 2012 financed between 7 percent and 30 percent of their budgets that way, according to the Americal Civil Liberties Union.
“Imposing monetary penalties that bury people under mountains of accumulating debt has devastating consequences on individuals, families, and entire communities, particularly low-income communities of color,” said Nusrat Choudhury, deputy director of the ACLU Racial Justice Program.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/20/supreme-court-states-cant-impose-excessive-fees-fines-forfeitures/2919411002/
They use 2-year-old satellite photos now probably three years old pictures now
Guess you didn’t get the memo about the new satellite program they bought and the weekly pictures they take. It’s sad that so much ignorance is spewed on this site.
~i think the ignorance of this thread is the “Press Release”.
I’ll second that.
The post in question offers nothing in regards to the issue, it only attacks a poster.
You and him are probably the same person. These games are so old……..
80% of what you and HumCo are talking about has nothing to do with the articles, just back and forth big tent conspiracy!
Straight up!
When someone posts here all day every day their opinion gets boring, watered down, as if the person thinks they’re real important but in reality it’s just blah blah blah blah after a while. Blah blah blah blah, that’s what it looks like.
~your lack of education and desire to learn anything of value is disheartening.
I was thinking the same thing, ‘glaring ignorance’ –w/your just stopped by to stir sh!t observation of ” someone posts here all day every day”, are one in the same w/ the whiner.
You’re not my or anyone else’s “teacher”. Just more blah blah blah blah blah. Self importance can be intoxicating.
I think that’s ‘fake news’ as they say, to scare the easily scared people. When I was in the planning dept last week they pulled me up on google earth. Two year old photos. Don’t believe every press release you read.
I think the free map is old pictures, but the paid app map is recent. I could be wrong, but I think that’s right.
Ya seriously, anybody who believes a word that comes out of the county officials mouth is really ignorant, I’m sure they are still using old photos.
Can’t wait till humboldt gets sued and there’s national articles about what a corrupt and totally messed up county government we have. It’s going to be murder mountain number two. The truth will come out! I hope Ford, Bohn, and Fennel go to prison.
They aren’ using old photos. I know someone who got a letter and the parcel only had a grow on for less than one year.
I hope the county finally got it together. But I’ll believe it when I see it. Most of the words that come out of their mouths are lies.
Its over folks. Ask your local store or distributor, the highest quality grass on the legal market in Humboldt is being imported from Los Angeles. All it took was an educated populace to get interested, now the Humboldt name just means good strains grown poorly to anyone paying attention, but yeah, smoke another bongload bro, its all good. Your parents will probably let you move back
Try to ignore HumCo is our best option. It’s hard when HumCo posts 50 comments every single day, but….its what it is.
You can always remind readers that HumCo supports flat earth ideas, shares videos from convicted conmen, thinks thousands were killed in Paradise, and that the supertanker didn’t fly over our major fires.
Most readers should consider that ’nuff said regarding HumCo, and HumCo ideas…
If you need links to any of Humcos erroneous, demonstrably false claims let me know.
I’ve lost my mind over it many times. Your not alone.
I’ve seen enough. It all looks like blah blah blah blah blah blah and holy shit- 5 Sheriffs just went screaming thru Alderpoint sirens blaring lights flashing.
Chasing a motorcycle, I’m told. I doubt they caught it. Once you get past Alderpoint there’s lots of places to hide a bike.
Needless attacks Brian?
They usually come from people unable to make legitimate points.
It’s funny and cute how you ignored the links I provided to Humcos Conman videos.
Funny and cute.
Do you have a link for flat earth too?
Do you want to provide us a YouTube that shows Hitler is buried in Ca and fires comes from lasers and the earth is flat?
Please Stars, join the circus and show us all the truth.
I’ll just field the one for now. Modern technology is sometimes amazing.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=19xn697tpoI
Enjoy! 😉
Modern technology is amazing. You can use it, or more primitive factors to find out answers to such things like:
-Is the earth flat
-Did supertankers fly over fired
-do the links I post come from convicted conmen
Among other things.
But most of it common sense.
What about fire from lasers?
@Kym,
~yeah, this one too, please –talking about ‘common sense’ @ 8:01
@ Kym,
~i require you delete the above post @7:25.
Does it have merit or value?
Thank you.
Are you referring to your comments? Yes, I wish she would, Flat Earther.
@ Kym,
~this is what you said to do, right?
@Kym,
~i don’t want to be responsible for someone losing their mind over my comment/posts. Especially someone that i’m a “full-job” to, and yet, suggests to ignore me. He might have a coronary, Kym!
Please make the madness stop . . .for his sake, for my sake, and also -for your sake too. Maybe even four or five readers.
<3
I suspect a Snowflake is in our midst. Mommy- help! Make them go away!
I think you’re really getting to him. He’s questioning everything he’s ever known. He’s not even sure about the shape of the planet any more.
~OMG! -really, rolling on floor laughing on this one.
Makes it all worth it, stars!
Thank you dear.
Is that why your crying to Kym to delete comments? ” Reqire” that Kym delete comments? Cuz you think it’s funny?
My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed!
He’s probably emailing Kym by now.
Regarding a flat earth:
“I think it’s an interesting concept”
-HumCo, Jan 10, 2019
https://kymkemp.com/2019/01/01/30-acre-fire-burning-southwest-of-willow-creek-in-humboldt-county-according-to-cal-fire/#comment-730402
I’m not confused.
I know, I know, how dare anyone question your “superior intellect “. You need those people to disappear. Sad.
Help the little bruised peach out, Kym. Delete my rebellious comments ASAP.
~rebellious? Pfft!
glaring ignorance works.
You blew in here after 5:00 P.M., and crapped on a commenter in here.
What did you expect?
I expect nothing more than to run into your 100 comments per day. Blah blah blah
Look, you all, we’re adults not children. I am not your mommy.
CHCO, Telling someone you don’t like their comments is not gratuitously insulting. If you offer opinions, people are going to tell you they don’t like them. It’s up to you to defend your statements.
I don’t decide if statements have merit or value. And, I would highly suggest that you don’t urge me to delete comments based on that criteria as, my opinion on value, appears to differ from yours.
Kym, what’s up with 5 Sheriffs blazing thru AP around 7:00 pm?
I think they were chasing a motorcyclist but I can’t find enough info on the scanner tapes to say for sure. (I was cooking dinner when the incident happened.)
BIG TIME VALUE DIFFERENCE
“we’re adults not children. ” I suppose if we broaden the definition to include six year olds going on ten.
“It’s up to you to defend your statements.” Likewise. Did YOU not say just today, “just post under the one you want deleted, or questioned, or some sanity decision made, and i’ll do it”?
Now, you’re coming back with your mealy -mouthed excuses.
Evidently the RHBB picks and chooses rules like the Supervisors – cognitive dissonance.
CHC, don’t push me today. I’m exhausted and you are making me cranky as heck. Here’s exactly what I said: “…sometimes I miss something and you could comment underneath it and say why you think it should be deleted and I will look.”
…I WILL LOOK does not in any way mean you get to demand I delete something. In means you can state why you think something should be deleted and I’ll make the decision.
I don’t make mealy mouthed excuses. Right now I’m making a promise. I’m frustrated already with your dozens of conspiracy theories, your multiple comments (40 today alone) and your failure to address logically almost anything. I have some empathy with your need to reach out and communicate and I’ve tried to deal But Push me too damn hard and I will ban you just so I can spend less time on this comment section and more writing stories. Right now you are on moderation so I don’t have to worry what you are up to while I’m sleeping.
I suggest you take a break. I’ll get some sleep and maybe both of us can be nicer people tomorrow.
HumCo values videos from convicted conmen, flatearthers and Alex Jones wannabes.
Thank the natural world Kym has a different-value-based website!
GReat answer.
One more year till we can vote out the tyrants destroying our communitys. I pray that most can hang in there till then evan though saddly I know most cant!!!come down and file for a permit they say,yeah if u have an extra 200 grand.just know who did this to our lives here,our buissnesses, our freinds and neighbours. Gavin newsom and the board of supervisors (minus madrone ).big money sellouts and treason to the people has consumed booth republican and democrat partys.this country has no place for 90 percent of us except to be taxed,extorted,and violated. Sad day when you realize this as the utmost truth! !!!!!!
🕯Thanks for the info Kym.
BOHICA
Wasn’t John Ford just saying they’re only giving half of people’s space to them under the new 3.0 ordinance as of the first of the year!!!!! Come down pay us 200 thousand we’ll give you half and tax,fine,and fee you too financial ruin!!! No matter if u work 18 hours a day you’ll still go under. Sounds like a great deal with corporate billions in the arena.wow thanks getting extorted by the county sounds like a winner compared to this!!!!!!!
John Ford, from San Diego, came up here to Humboldt to tell us how to run our private business.
John Ford is not the legislature.
Neither are the imposters of public servants, the Supervisors.
But, you know what happens when we point a finger. I do know the slave-speak definition of (O)rdinance.
And Black’s Law definition.
A newly learned ancient form of language would put the horse before the cart, and we could move along much faster on this.
~information? More like, what have the puppet masters pushed on the Order Followers?
(i)nformation – a no-agreed-upon-value word. No value, no contract. No contract, no jurisdiction. A negative state of being. Vowel in front of two consonants.
A ‘Statute’ is not a Law,’ (Flournoy v. First Nat. Bank of Shreveport , 197 La. 1067, 3 Sold 244, 248), and a “Code’ is not a Law,” (In Re Self v Rhay Wn 2d 261), in point of fact in Law, a concurrent or joint resolution of legislature is not “Law,” (Koenig v. Flynn, 258 N.Y. 292,179 N. E. 705,707; Ward v State. 176 Old. 368.56 P.2d 136, 137; Stale ex rel. Todd v. Yelle, 7 Wash.2d 443, 110 P.2d 162, 1G5), “All codes, rules, and regulations are unconstitutional and lacking due process.” (Rodriques v. Ray Donavan (U.S. Department of Labor) 769 F. 2d 1344, 1348 (1985).) and the common law is the real law, the Supreme Law of the land, the code, rules, regulations, policy and statutes are “not the law”, (Self v Rhay, 61 Wn (2d) 2611).
I’d label this Press Release as “Misinformation Misdirected Onto a Community-Aware Forum”
Either you’re a Statist, or you’re not. There is no third choice.
“Paid posters may create a significant negative effect on the online communities, since the information from paid posters is usually not trustworthy,” they wrote.
In some cases, rival companies have used competing armies of workers to wage comment wars that confused members of the public looking for unbiased information.
The researchers say the fake comments can overwhelm some users, causing them to find it hard to trust any information found online
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-15869683
Are you feeling overwhelmed?
Me by you, underwhelmed.
Instead of trying to cryptically defend flat earthimg conmen, tell us your positions.
What do you think of the flat earth concept?
Is Hitler buried in CA?
Why are.you bothering me if not?
I Like Stars and CHC and a few others are probably just one person. It’s the old ” make it look like you have many people that agree with you” tag team tactic. Its been worn out on Loco and here but he is under the impression that no one knows. Pathetic as hell….
I think Kym would have sniffed that out.
But I absolutely have considered the same.
“HumCo” babbles, mostly always and only with “Shak” regarding nothing factual. If you point it out. “Stars” magically arrives to defend them or attack you.
Classic.
Sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory to me.
Do you, like Brian (if you’re even two different people), also wonder if the world is flat?
StarsCoHumShak,
The earth is round. I Have never been confused. What your doing now is lying like a flat out idiot. But for redundancy, here’s your quote again, from your other pseudonym:
Regarding a flat earth:
“I think it’s an interesting concept”
-HumCo, Jan 10, 2019
https://kymkemp.com/2019/01/01/30-acre-fire-burning-southwest-of-willow-creek-in-humboldt-county-according-to-cal-fire/#comment-730402
No, I leave that dumbass shit for CHC to spew. People that comment here all day every day need to get a life. Been there done that, I know all too well how much time it takes up. I wasn’t even researching crazy ass shit and posting lengthy verbose comments full of useless links.
American lies aint good nuf for ya.. B.B.C. Really??????
Yesss! Bust those greedy turds and take their land .
At some point, people must stop whining, and start follow the rules. Go legal or go home- ignoring the law is a losing strategy!
What if the “rules” aren’t legal?
We wear masks and storm the castle at every hearing until they stop?
~sure. Why not? The jail is full – we’d get to play “catch and release” in real time.
I don’t wanna wear a mask. They know me well.
~what if the governMental corporation rules don’t apply to you?
What if you don’t know the difference between law and legal?
The laws of this land haven’t changed.
I AM, home.
Bootlicker is a losing strategy.
As the whine gets louder, the anti-government crazies get even more boring.
Has the National Guard arrived yet? I hear they’re planning to bivouac at the Humboldt House…
Get ready Garberville, the days of that good Murder Mountain BS are numbered.
National anti-legal-pot blow-back is building, and California wants it’s tax money!
You think you have seen some enforcement? That was nothing!
Get a damn permit, or grow 6 plants!
I predict some action this Summer…
Remember, these are code violations. Just wait until they come for your unpermitted carport.
Ullr, with respect,
What is being realised is Humco is 99% bullshit.
Time to call it out.
Logical discussions aside.
Hey, pay your taxes. Especially if you are on AFDC, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, or SDI, or if you like using roads.
We don’t care if you grow weed, just pay your share!
Un-permitted buildings and improvements? Humboldt is WAY behind in enforcement, but could well catch up this year!
Join the future! Humboldt is the way YOU built it…
I predict many assessments and extra bills…
Do you mean, “Shut up, bend over and take it.”?
Skip- you aren’t from here are you?
Yep not the law== agregous fines== a ordinance may cary no more than a Mr meaner and a thousand doller fine !!!!! Our board of supervisors and county government are law breaking theives who should be treated as such !!!!!!!
Has anyone seen a budget or exactly where all the money is going that’s being paid for all of this permitting, taxes & civil fines?
~usually The County’s Annual Financial Report comes out a month later than last year’s report. Used to be done by December at the latest. Last year was February. If it’s done yet, i’ll get 2018’s this week. But by all means, the more who get a copy the more we can compare notes. In the Finance Dept., 1st floor to your right, then left one door. No cost. The City of Eureka’s usually isn’t done until the end of the fiscal year – May, maybe. Ten cents per page – about $18.
A “Budget” does not show the standing value of a corporation. The gazillions languishing in “investments” are not on a Budget schedule.
“Last year’s notices were more generally worded and the fines were consolidated into a category. That will not be the case this year”
So are we fucking mind readers. Can someone tell us what the changes are? The one thing i can say about Trump at least he tells you where he stands on issues and you don’t feel like you’re trying to decipher a fucking riddle.
Yeah Trump tells it straight on Mexican will pay Mexico paying for the wall taking the troops out of Syria going to drain the swamp going to make America great again Clean Coal going to give everybody tax cuts fix the medical industry real good and as far as I could understand what they’re doing with the abatement program in Humboldt County Code Enforcement all people are resigning in that interim office we’re going to put Guido he will be the new interim coordinator restoring Peace and Freedom in Humboldt County the new County ordinance will be a inalienable right to grow and smoke cannabis which will be put into the Constitution the First Amendment lhe right to religious and spiritual practices
If you voted for mini me- You been duped- His lil Train set needs to be financed. And he,ll be kickin in a door near you to do it. So shut up and bend over suckers. And vote right next time.
Vote rite next time indeed— supervisors elections coming up in 2020,that’s next year. Let’s take that rip off raise away!!!!!
This is absolutely abuse of the tax codes. These fines and taxes are exceedingly excessive, and abusive. Seriously small grows shouldn’t not be fined or taxed on the same scale a huge grow would be. Small grows are no bigger than a victory garden. On that scale, not much water is even used. No more then a veggie garden at that size. Drawing from our own springs from on that level, should not even bat an eye. Anything less than 2500 ft should be taxed at a smaller rate and held to lighter standards. Actually when 64 passed it was stated that anything less than 2500 sq ft would be a very simple and inexpensive permit. Why is that not the case?
No Government adgency should be able to seize your property over farming cannabis with a small group. That is draconian.
I realize there are some bad players out there.. but that does not justify abusing everyone. Cannabis is legal. 6 plants is not even enough to make Simpson Oil.
And the Government should not be the one to tell you how much medicine is needed. If you get a 3 acre conversion, and clear some land and grow a small garden, you are interfering with no one. The government is encroaching on its citizens liberty when they apply these fees. $10,000 for a cannabis fine is massively exssesive and abuse of power.
Medical Cannabis should did not go away, and the Government should not be able to fine you to oblivion for engaging your rights to access medicine. Or tell anyone they can not grow cannabis collectively. To assume all are guilty, and issue fines based on this is abuse.
Check out other counties.. thier fines are no where near Humboldts. In Nevada County, it’s $25,000 tops for the worst of fines. This is seriously fraudulent!
One time fine of 25k?
They can only charge you $25,000 max per year. Or 3 times the county permit, I beilive.
Small Fry- Thank You! What you say is true. People who wanted to grow small amounts were misled and bullshitted into voting for this “legalization” which is abusing them. We have some mega-scenes and some environmental disasters out there…but now everybody -big and small- are being equally attacked. You can’t even grow your 6 plants on your own property without now getting a permit to use your own water! Because it is the “legalized” cannabis now those 6 cannabis plants must be singled out in the state’s quest to regulate your own water from your own spring! We need supervisors who not only stand up for the little people in this draconian abatement program but who actually stand up to the state water board in defense of small garden landowners. Instead we have 4 supervisors- minus Madrone- who seem quite happy with the destruction of the many little people they have bullshitted. Corrupt AF…and this is only one way they have favored their wealthy friends with the permitted mega-grows who still evade track-n-trace. You might suspect there is collaboration between them and Newsom to clear the fields in preparation of extreme corporate takeover for the coming federal “legalization” scam (whose propaganda points are exactly what they fed us here in CA).
Well said. In Nevada county, anything below 2000 square ft is exempt from Water board Enrollment… Madrone seems very level headed. I am glad to see him on the Board. The supervisors railroaded the Smaller Farmers. The corruption from the county is unreal. No other county has taken such abusive measures. Mendocino abatements are no where near Humboldts. Not even in Trinity. Absolute Extortion…
I was not aware that Nevada County growers of less than 2000 sq.ft. have been exempted! I thought it was State of CA Water Board rules which required registration for ANY water use on any cannabis. That’s how it is for Mendocino County. For my 6 plants on my own property I must register and pay an annual fee for using MY OWN WATER! Water that does not require registration or annual fee unless it is for cannabis. It isn’t a county regulation but a new state regulation. I hope to be corrected. I believe our own supervisors should be fighting this state regulation by our sides, not helping to attack us on all fronts. I believe many people voted for this “legalization” thinking they would actually be allowed to grow 6 plants…Surprise! Never trust the government.
Ya. The new regulations are excessive. Expecially the water board. From what i understand.. you do not have to register your water to the water board under cannabis cultivation unless you are commercially applying for a permit. However… all water sources supposedly need to be “permited” through Domestic use registration. The difference PER YEAR.. is the cannabis permit is $750, plus $750 filing fee, and the donestic registration is $350 per year plus $350 ap fees.
It’s redundant because the domestic application is more than enough for a small cannabis garden.. but once you have a small garden.. nope more money to the gov. Completely excessive! They cant say anything about wells though.. yet.. but they are now claiming they can.. and if you have a spring that doesn’t leave your property.. you are exempt from paying every year.. but you have to prove it to them..
However.. the truth of the matter is.. it is the county thst will have to enforce these regulations.. so I am assuming Nevada County just wrote it into thier ordinances. They also did a county EIR, But so did humboldt.. The stare is not going to “enforce” every little trickle that comes from a pipe.. that burden lies on the counties…
I believe the water board is out of touch. And thier regulations do nothing but throw everyone into the same pot… And assumes everyone is guilty, and everyone is a bad player.. when that is not the case..
Actually, I think the 2000 square ft exemption is now part of the updated water board policies this year.. I beilive….
a. Personal use-exempt cannabis cultivators are very small, non-commercial cultivators that are exempt from the Cannabis Cultivation General Order. (See the Exemptions for Certain Cultivation Activities section.)
Outdoor commercial cultivation activities that disturb less than 2,000 square feet may be conditionally exempt under the Cannabis Cultivation General Order. (See the Exemptions for Certain Cultivation Activities section.)
Off of the Water Board website
Exempt from any water quality discharge paperwork (as long as it’s on less than 25% incline,) but not exempt from a domestic small use filing and associated fees for cannabis–even if medical . Those jerks.
If u want to glaze over and be bored to tears try navigating the waterboard website .
. And it should be at least 2500 square ft… that is a super small garden anyway.. and their smallest “tier”.. Re-read the requirements again.. and your right.. I believe it is for the “waste discharge requirement” , as far as I understand what they are saying it is also “disturbed space” and not the “canopy space”.. and I beilive it says that you still have to “get permission for the diversion” even if it is for your 6 plants within 1000 square ft. We shouldn’t have to beg and grovel to the water board for “permission” to our water rights. And the slopes have to be less than 20%.. but.. what isn’t clear or me is, if it’s 20% at the garden site.. or if your entire property is more than 20%. If I was to water my “six” zucchini plants let’s say.. would one still have to ask the water hoarders for permission. Absolute headache and extreme over reach.. 2500 sq ft of cannabis should be exempt from all that bull.. that is so tiny, that is no bigger than a garden in somebody’s yard. Absolutely repulsive.. So basically cannabis is “legal” but your right to your water is not.. The Water board requirements and the cannabis requirements read worse Vogon Poetry….
So basically cannabis is “legal” but your right to your water is not..
Your right to your water is, but not if you are using it on your medical (not personal) herb…
Small Fry and Anon- Thank you! This is my understanding also. 6 plants are legal to grow but if you want to use any of your water on them you must register and pay For Your Own Water!!! Form 19332.2(b)(4) must be filed if it is from a spring that does not flow off your property. However if you want to grow anything but cannabis this rule doesn’t exist…I think if more people realized what is happening they would be angry. And I think our supervisors in all counties should be our allies in pushing back against this. Also- where are the regular private property rights groups on this?!
“Policy” is NOT law.
~the law does not operate on paper, particularly whenever the law is based on Nature. What is written on paper is merely a statement of the Law . . . the Administration’s collection of debt codes. Quasi contracts are just an assignment of superfluous terminology.
The more corrupt the State, the more “Codes” .
Unlimited State (power) is ineffective at convincing the masses. Social cooperation and ethic of productivity is what maximizes wealth.
“No state shall pass any bill or law impairing the obligation of contracts.” Constitution for the united States of America Article I, Section 10.
Common law contracts are not commerce. Make your own contracts between yourselves, and be DONE w/the corporations!
Perhaps the recent SCOTUS unanimous decision regarding excessive fines will rein our stupidvisors in. Are you paying attention ESTELLE?
THE 8TH AMMENDMENT APPLIES
California Doesn’t Need More Marijuana Regulation; It Needs Less
Governor Newsom wants to fight the black market. That’s how we got the drug war in the first place.
http://reason.com/blog/2019/02/19/california-doesnt-need-more-marijuana-re#comment
“Black markets, of course, exist whenever people cannot legally purchase the goods and services that they’re looking for at a reasonable cost. The high taxes in California have guaranteed that a black market is likely to continue. But let’s also not discount that bureaucratic incompetence is also making it impossible for the market to legally meet consumer demand. People are essentially having their lives disrupted and are facing economic hardships all because they tried to “follow the rules.”
“That Newsom is insisting on harsh penalties for rule-breakers shows how little he truly understands why it was important to legalize marijuana in the first place. The criminalization of marijuana and the drug war that ensued disrupted and ruined countless lives for perpetuating a manufactured public safety scare. The enforcement of marijuana laws were what created the black market. To get rid of the laws, but then put into place an equally repressive system that ends up punishing people and still creates an environment where a black market is in demand just misses the entire point. It’s the inability to legally purchase marijuana that created the black market. Fix that problem.”
Is it your impression though, through the language used, that Newsom is directing the Guard onto the State and National forests rather than private property?
The legal market absolutely has too much regulations and red tape and questionable outcomes for most those that wanted to “come out of the shadows”.
Some people have a half-million to gamble on their future. Many dont.
It’s unfortunate. The transitions will be bumpy.
But I’m still happy that weed crimes are nill, this was a crucial aspect of the law; to retroactively eliminate weed charges from criminal histories.
I don’t know what Newsom’s real intent is with the California National Guard. We’ll see. If he does use them to raid private property I think things could get real messy really quickly. He needs to step carefully. If the intent is for public land then I expect the majority of the effort will be in Shasta county since there are way more massive cartel grows out that way than anywhere in the emerald triangle.
I think the whole regulation scheme was set up intentionally to prop up a black market. The State needs the black market for liquid capital and has needed for many years.
Here’s a great primer on that (a little dated now) by Catherine Austin Fitts the former Assistant Secretary to HUD under Reagan. She’s written a lot on how the CIA and Wall Street used Columbian product to finance themselves. Cannabis does the same thing for California.
https://ratical.org/co-globalize/narcoDollars.html
The State has figured out that it is better for their bottom line to fine people than to incarcerate them.
I’m hesitant to research claims like that. But it is possible and there is historical precedent.
I interviewed Michael Rupert before his suicide, for instance. I was a novice at interviews and a little starstruck, so I’m not going to link to that video.
Thanks for the link, I’ll check it tonight.
Fitts and Rupert were involved in and writing about it at the same time. While Rupert was focused on the ground operations Fitts focused on how the money scheme worked.
https://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/11/national/transcript-of-catherine-austin-fitts-visit-to-the-drug-policy-forum.html
Rupert was a nice guy.
The woes of the world were too heavy for him in the end.
The populace was also too gullible for bad info. His work on 9/11 was on point and he stayed away from conspiracy garbage like lasers. I think people like HumCo and that type of gullibility drove him over the edge. Its really sad.
Lasers are real Brian.
Yes, but people who think lasers destroyed the towers are idiots.
Fuck off ShakStarCo
of course they are, my cat loves them. but the laser at LLL has not yet made death ray status. it makes great fiction though.
Thanks for the laugh. My cat does too!
Brian ~ Duh… Most intelligent people know it was controlled demolition, not lasers.
Fly,
Agreed.
Unfortunately that won’t become public discourse because misinformation campaigns and CounterIntel wars have delegitimized legitimate movements.
To “them” the entire point is (and always was) to collect those taxes and fees.
Well, if that was their only goal then they are shooting themselves in the foot. Over regulation of anything that has demand will create (in this case maintain) a black market. I’m sure they know that.
Maybe there’s a race to see who can grab the most land from the people?
2009:
Nevada : 84.5%
Alaska: 69.1%
Utah: 57.4%
Oregon: 53.1%
Idaho: 50.2%
Arizona: 48.1%
California: 45.3%
Wyoming: 42.3%
New Mexico: 41.8%
Colorado: 36.6%
https://americanvision.org/3033/how-much-land-does-the-federal-government-own/
Then at least 500 million more acres under BHO were grabbed during his years in office. (I think Utah won theirs back in court, but don’t quote me).
Considering that the Constitution specifies that the govt can only hold land in a Trust until a State is formed and then dispose of it to the state, all this ‘antiquities law loophole’ & “asset forfeiture” stuff is really baffling.
Think I’ll go watch an old recorded football game.
Nothings dumber than an Obama and fennel voting hippy.
Anybody else for govener in 2022!!!! Let’s abate Gavin newsom who’s backing and supporting the extortion of his costituats! !!! We have to purge California and our county of these theives. Let’s have the highest voter turnouts in history in these next couple elections! !!!!! Humboldt county needs new leadership/Representation or it dies…….. ..
Somebody posted above and it’s worth repeating:
“That Newsom is insisting on harsh penalties for rule-breakers shows how little he truly understands why it was important to legalize marijuana in the first place.”
The truth in a sentence. The legalization everybody wanted was to FINALLY make weed a people’s plant, not a government commodity. Our own Humboldt representatives sold out.
Everyone who both read and comprehended Prop 64 saw this coming. Legalization my ass. The blame lies on the voters, not the government.
POTUS wants to decriminalize Pot.
Newsome wants to hurry up and ‘enforce’ the ‘rules’ when the people are just now finally receiving their permits.
Strange?
“Last year’s notices were more generally worded and the fines were consolidated into a category. That will not be the case this year”
What does this mean? The notices were worded right down to the junk car and the car battery you hadn’t taken to the dump yet.
Is there a attorney in the area that is challenging the legality of these abatement notices?? I would like to form a collation of property owners to challenge this.
Any information would be helpful.
What ever happened to the Humboldt Coalition for Property Rights?
Contact ED Denson.
“What ever happened to the Humboldt Coalition for Property Rights?”
~they didn’t bother to read the Supreme Law of the Land.
How bout all that cencorship. Blow big brother @ the outhouse. I really thought this site would be differant But its turned into your personal ego trip. Sorry if i hurt your feewings. But when truth meets lie. One gets hurt. Which are you kym. Hint — the answer requires ear plugs.
If you have grievances you should address them specifically otherwise you just sound like an asshole. After all this is Kym’s place of business and she is kind enough to put up with all our bullshit… and she certainly doesn’t need to.
You speak uninformed–You never got to see the post so how would you know. Hello!
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Thanx kym. Sometimes i get to parental. But kids these days what do you do. I’d Rather raise tomatoes. You can eat em. All love in the christ . Sorry for any harm done. JAH BLESS YOU AND YOURS.
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This is the first day I can remember that HumCo hasn’t babbled endlessly about nothing but bad information.
This is literally the best day of comment discussions in a while. Bad day to gripe unless you are yourself HumShakStar.
HumCo:
The use of the “@” symbol is a dead giveaway.
Plus your crying of censorship and attack on Kym…well, I guess the Irene pseudonym will be short lived?
It’s never ending. This troll has endless names and addresses. I’m not quite sure what the impetus for the day after day after day decimation of conspiracy theories and wacky politics and endless links.
It is far easier to burn the heretics than question the dogma.
Maybe they can enforce the permitted farms as well. Gavin wanting to send in the troops to fight the black market and it’s actually the permitted farms that are propping up the black market.
Anybody see the Supreme Court ruling on assets siezure and excessive fines? God I hope a class action lawsuit takes every dollar back from the county that they fined.
Yep. $70k a day is excessive by any measure😊
I’ve lived in Humboldt County for over 20 years and I’ve never seen any code enforcement in my neighborhood here in McKinelyville. None!
Makes you wonder why they even bother to write the codes to begin with….
The SCOTUS just UNANIMOUSLY decided excessive fines are UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
ESTELLE?
The code enforcement abatement fines fall into this category.
It looks like Humboldt’s excessive fines and land seizure might just be coming to an end. New court ruling https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/us/politics/civil-asset-forfeiture-supreme-court.html Just because they use the building permit aspect it won’t hold water
Excellent! Thanks for posting.
New law applies to states thanks for that link!!!! Made my f-in day !!!!!! Can’t wait to hear of the planning department and county getting sued into ruin!!!! Bbblllaaaa hhhhaaaa hhhhaaaa hhhhaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Better yet would like to see the author’s of the agregous fines sued personaly!!! Have there lands and savings seized in civil court!!!!!!
9-0, that is extremely rare for all the justices to agree; heck Brennen and Ginsburg agree that property rights are a privilege granted by the states. Ginsburg wrote the opinion. As for Estelle and co. they are now in dishonor of being our public servants and should do the honorable position and resign. If you voted once to take our rights away you will do it again! I cannot trust you Estelle to be my public servant any longer.
This is great news. A class action suit against humboldt should begin immediately before they have a chance to cover their asses.
To be clear, “rights” are not a privilege that is granted by any government body. Rights are innate, bestowed on us by birth. “Privileges ” are granted by an authority and are issued by contract e.g. your driving privileges are contracted with your drivers license.
Although there is clear precedent that freedom of travel is a right and not a privilege. .. but that is not the point of the example.
Now the supervisors are downright treasonous to the United states of American if they continue to rob there constitutes! !!! Highest court in the land upholds the constitution! !!! Good day for the people good day for the country! !!!!!
Supreme Court Delivers Unanimous Victory for Asset Forfeiture Challenge
The Eighth Amendment prohibition against excessive fines and fees applies to states as well, SCOTUS rules, opening a new way to challenge outlandish forfeitures.
http://reason.com/blog/2019/02/20/supreme-court-delivers-unanimous-victory#comment
“Making clear that the Eighth Amendment applies to the states will make it far easier to challenge unreasonable fines and fees—including not just asset forfeiture cases, but also situations where local governments hit homeowners with massive civil penalties for offenses such as unapproved paint jobs or Halloween decorations.”
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Also another very good article in Slate regarding the ruling…
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/02/supreme-court-rules-against-civil-forfeitures-rbg-timbs.html
Seizures – Humboldt County Code Enforcement Regulations allow for the seizure and sale personal property.
351-4. Other Definitions
(m) Personal Property. Articles of personal or household use or ornament, including, but not limited to, furniture, furnishings, automobiles and boats, as well as precious metals in any tangible form, such as bullion or coins. As used herein the term “Personal Property” does not include intangible property such as evidence of indebtedness, bank accounts and other monetary deposits, documents of title or securities. (Ord. 2576, § 4, 06/27/2017)
351-15. Sale of Materials
Any Personal Property collected by the Code Enforcement Unit during the correction or Abatement of the condition or conditions causing the Nuisance on the affected Property may be sold in the same manner as surplus Personal Property of the County of Humboldt is sold, and the proceeds from such sale shall be paid into the revolving fund created pursuant to the provisions of this Chapter. (Ord.601, §15, 06/06/1967; Ord. 2576, § 4, 06/27/2017)
Why has the BOS not established Citizen Advisory Committees (CAC’s) for Cannabis Regulations, Code Enforcement and Measure “S” (Cannabis taxes).
“Why has the BOS not established Citizen Advisory Committees (CAC’s) for Cannabis Regulations, Code Enforcement and Measure “S” (Cannabis taxes)?”
Because they’re criminals and thieves.
No, really, it would be like trying to fit a round can in a square hole.