Man Arrested With Six Pounds of Heroin, Says DTF
This is a press release from the Humboldt County Drug Task Force. The information has not been proven in a court of law and any individuals described should be presumed innocent until proven guilty:
On January 25th, 2019, at approximately 1:00 p.m., Special Agents with the Humboldt County Drug Task Force, with the assistance of narcotic detection K9’s with the Humboldt County District Attorney’s Office and Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office, served a search warrant at a residence located in the 500 block of Warren Creek Road, Arcata. Agents learned that Jorge Luis Valdez-Chavez (age 28 from Sonora, Mexico) was distributing multiple pounds of heroin in Humboldt County.
Upon arrival, agents contacted Valdez-Chavez in his driveway where he was detained without incident. Agents searched Valdez-Chavez’s residence and located approximately 6 pounds of suspected heroin.
Agents also seized nearly $6,000 in US currency that is believed to be profits of narcotics sales. This currency will be held pending asset forfeiture proceedings.
Valdez-Chavez was subsequently transported to the Humboldt County Correctional Facility where he was booked for possession and transportation of controlled substances for the purpose of sales.
Anyone with information related to this investigation or other narcotics related crimes are encouraged to call the Humboldt County Drug Task Force at 707-444-8095 or the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office Tip Line at 707-268-2539.
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Build the fucking wall, build it now. 6 pounds? 6 pounds? How many babies, and small children are starving, and abused by the addicts of this shit this animal has brought here through our border? How many will be slaughtered by those under the influence? Fuck the sanctuary state, and build that fucking wall.
LMFAO. Those pounds weren’t walked in over the border. LMFAO
Wow you sure are smart der. It is made by illegal Mexican cartel members. It’s made in Cali but most is made in Mexico unchecked. So yes, build the wall. Shoot anyone who try’s to climb over or under it. Lesson will be made real clear. 75% of all heroin and meth will disappear off the streets
Any serious weight of any illegal drug imports go through the ports. Are really dumb enough to think it all gets walked over by people with backpacks through the desert? Cartels move literally metric tons of drugs. Not the kind of weight that fits in a backpack or even a car. It’s really that simple
I’m pro minefields in front of and behind the wall.
Oh Boy, that will stop an airplane, a tunnel or a boat.
What side of riogrand river.our side.our wall.
Welcome back.
You people really need to educate yourselves.
The San Diego border saw a lot of activity in 2018, from phony iPhone parts to millions of dollars worth of drugs. The latter was disguised and hidden in some pretty creative ways, including decorative Aztec calendars and car parts you didn’t know existed. Here are 18 of the biggest border busts of 2018.
https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/2018-customs-border-protection-biggest-busts-border-smuggling-drugs-502385332.html
“Drug smuggling knows no age, and this August 2018 bust is proof. Border agents in San Diego arrested an 81-year old woman after they found 34 heroin packages weighing 92 pounds. They estimated the drugs to be worth at least $870,000 on the street.”
“You can call this one the mole-man drug bust, in a sense. Police discovered more than 300 pounds of drugs worth $1 million during a traffic stop in southwestern Arizona. Then, authorities discovered how the suspect got all those drugs — via a 600-foot tunnel that crossed the border to Mexico.”
“Another 2018 haul is one of the biggest drug busts in U.S. history. The Georgia State Patrol pulled over a car that contained drugs. That led authorities to a house in Lawrenceville, Georgia, where they seized $2 million worth of heroin as well as methamphetamines, a stockpile of cash, and an AK-47.”
For you people that are lead to believe drugs are walked across deserts or drove across in plain sight where there’s no check point or port of entry need to get a clue.
“The U.S. Coast Guard has been involved in plenty of massive drug seizures in its history, but one from 2007 is one of the biggest drug busts in U.S. history. In cooperation with Panama’s government, a Coast Guard ship stopped and searched a container ship, and discovered more than 42,000 pounds of cocaine worth $350 million.”
source;
https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/biggest-drug-busts-in-u-s-history.html/
Funny how they can detect anyone or anything within a 5 mile radius of Area 51 in a desert, but they can’t stop people,drugs,vehiclesor tunnelers crossing the US border. You step foot across the boundary after reading the sighn in 10 different languages and they jus shoot you on the spot, no questions asked. Let me guess….. no one goes past the sighn, no wall needed. Only a 25€ bullet. Ingenious
[edit] NO WALL will even slow down the transportation of drugs. Apparently you haven’t heard of airplanes or boats? They can go over and around the wall. And drugs are imported through Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida and Georgia. And everywhere from Crescent City to San Diego. Even Eureka. Murray Field, Kneeland, Fortuna, Hopa, Garberville, and thousands of other small air fields. How will a wall across the Southern border stop them? Or to Oregon, Washington the entire northern border and the entire East coast border? [edit]
“Shoot anyone who try’s to climb over or under it.” YOU are the end of our nation.
Shoot first,
Ask questions later…
Heroin is not made in California. Its all made in Mexico. In order to make heroin in California the cartel members would need to grow opium poppies here, or they would need to bring raw opium and all the materials across the border. That would be extremely bulky and require much more space than concentrated heroin. Mexico also grows a considerable amount of opium in their mountains, all with the purpose of being turned into heroin and brought here. I agree with building the wall, just clarifying your statement with the fact that its all made in Mexico and then brought here.
People tend to think of the heroin trail as originating in an opium poppy field in Southeast Asia or Mexico — not in Northern California.
“Over the weekend the Sheriff’s Office Investigations Division eradicated one acre of opium poppies, which contained approximately 27,000 plants of opium poppies and another 16,500 harvested plants,” the statement said.
Those plants could have produced a pound and a half of heroin. The plot could have been harvested three times a year.
“The street value of a pound and a half of heroin is approximately $45,000,” according to the statement.
Sprawling opium poppy field found in Northern California May 15th
https://www.foxnews.com/us/sprawling-opium-poppy-field-found-in-northern-california
They found 1 opium poppy field. Then 7 more. Now it’s the largest bust in California history
By Gabby Ferreira
May 31, 2018 09:42 AM,
Updated May 31, 2018 10:22 AM
Read more here: https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/state/california/article212255714.html#storylink=cpy
Maybe that is a lot for California, but no one could get away with growing enough poppies to supply even one dealer in Humboldt County. This dealer was caught with 6 lbs. That one field, even harvested to its fullest potential wouldn’t be able to supply one street dealer, or the other 7 fields combined. That is propaganda framed to seem like a lot, but it isn’t. All told if those fields produced that same 1 and half pounds per pull and could be harvested 3 times a year, that would be 36 pounds of heroin. This guy got caught with 6 and I guarantee that this isn’t his first rodeo. No those fields are but a fart in the wind.
Most of it is keistered across our boarders. Have you ever seen a big ass? It probably has heroin in it.
It is now pumped as a liquid through one of the thousands of 1/8″ high density polyethylene tubes buried under where they will build walls.why didn’t they go after the main stash of chiva and frogskins?don’t kill the goose that lays the golden eggs? And car- fentanyl that one pound equals 50 tons of pure tar?as a kid goma (opium gum (10% morphine (heroina) $7,000 in sinaloa,dropped to $1,500,now $265kg?now we are eating tortillas con Sal con chili,opium don’t buy beans,tho still plenty violence.mota and goma soon legal. Only 10% and in new Zealand 27%from proper fertilization for Johnson and johnson.tips not wanted.13,000 crossings daily at juarez?school kids pass with a hello ,alone.a hundred capsules swallowed,only 5 with real thing.they made me do it.deck is stacked against you tards.sonora is beautiful.lately reported a rash of murders of step father’s cause murder is still legal for people under 18.the russians,chinese, and our coup de eta,in venesuela.collapse of your delicate infrastructure.i finished school 9th grade all boys catholic school.
What I enjoy about your posts is the breadth of knowledge you have . Thanks.
I wonder how many folks that have been growing weed illegally for years are the most vocal about immigration and heroin. It’s ok to choose what laws to obey?
Der has been listening to Nancy and Chuck too much, and obviously has no knowledge whatsoever of how much heroine comes across the border by mule. Focusing on the commercial border crossings is nothing more than a scam to get people to believe we don’t need the wall. Sure, a lot comes in through the ports, but a hell of a lot comes in on backpacks too. Don’t fall for the radical left line of bullshit folks. Half truths don’t cut it here. Sanctuary cities are the major distribution points for the poison the left would have you eat. I don’t know a single heroine addict or crack head, or meth head that wouldn’t vote for the radical lefts’ agenda. That says a lot right there.
That’s about some one sided crap. Don’t believe the left but believe everything from the right.
Sure I can see some mules and back packers walking across the desert, a small % of those might have some drugs, pounds? dozens of pounds , but I can’t see inside hidden compartments in vehicles, millions a day, containers in the shipping industry. Where’s the real problem at?
Blinding yourself with one side of propaganda or the other side doesn’t matter. Your still blind.
It’s real easy to fact check and research to educate yourself.
If the authorities thought a wall would be the answer it would already be up.
Reply To Striker Toby:
Maybe you should see a shrink about those voices in your head, because you seem to be hearing things that I did not say or infer. I can guarantee you I am not blind, uneducated or inexperienced where this subject is concerned. My comment had nothing to do with what you are saying. It was only meant to draw attention to the fact that heroine DOES come across the border in back packs. LOTS OF IT. It was a one sided comment meant to rebut another one sided statement, that’s all. In no way did I deny the flow through the ports exists. In no way did I deny that we need more technology there. You sir are the one blinded and victimized by a political scheme full of propaganda aimed at reducing your rationale to that of a newt, and it seems to be working. Consider yourself insulted in return and let it go, because your attitude is not healthy.
Thanks for proving my point. If you weren’t politically blinded you would have picked up on the fact I take neither side. I see both sides pushing messed up propaganda.
Also if you just stop and think sensibly, why would somebody risk walking, mulling or even driving illegal drugs in the open trying to cross an international border from a county that’s known for being one of the biggest drug cartel heavens in the world where there’s no legal entry port check points. Could that maybe be a really stupid thing to do? I mean come on. There right out in the open doing something illegal in the first place.
In backpacks! Thats priceless! You sound like someone in border security. Keep up the good work soldier. Carry on
State of mine first of all crackheads and meth heads don’t vote liberal. They just don’t vote. Period. Fact. Second of all picture yourself backpacking through the desert. What do you think is the maximum weight you can carry on your back? 20 pounds? The previous comment has a link to a report of a ship carrying 42000 pounds of cocaine. So you’re defunding security at the port that receives the 42000 pounds to get 7 billion dollars to build a wall to keep out the 20. Good thinking
The wall’s not all about dope. It doesn’t cross the border on its’ own, it takes people carrying it. An average load for a mule is about 80 pounds, not 20. Many mules carry the dope in return for the coyotes guiding them across the border to enter illegally. A ship with 4200 pounds of coke has nothing to do with our land border. We do not need a wall to keep ships out of the middle of the desert. I haven’t advocated defunding any of the efforts to quell the flow of drugs and people in case you care to read my statement again. Take what I say for what it is and make your life a lot less confusing. We need a strong border fence and increased technology at all levels of border control. Why can’t you twits drop the hate politics and just get back to being Americans?
But 1000s per day walk over and only one ship per week or month . So those 30k people who come over monthly carrying 20lbs each could be 600k lbs a month by foot 😎
There has been one boat caught with that size payload . Build that wall and use more surveillance at the ports .
Crossing the desert you carry nothing but water, nothing. That is not a choice. You will likely die, may get caught, or least likely of which you may make it. This path is for only the most disadvantaged. To strap 20-80 pounds of drugs onto one who crosses in this way is to lose 20-80lbs of drugs. Not maybe, not possibly, literally. Hard to believe the cartels can still be so underestimated. The cartels have numerous ways to export drugs without risk, they are not desperate. There have been tunnels operating with impunity for decades. Officials at ports and airports have long ago been bought off and relationships have been in place for decades.
Drug war is about education, not incarceration.
Americans love their drugs like no other. Americas insatiable appetite for the stuff is not the fault of Mexico. A wall would not change American drug habits one iota. Way to shift blame to a darker complexion though, AMERICA!!!
Lol I no right,lol every one want to blame some one else,to fucking funny,ya all a bunch of figure pointing dum asses! Its the people on here & every were pointing ,judgeing,blameing,that cause people to want to do drugs just to not have to feel the pain others in this fucked up world make them feel inside & out! Shit its a never ending cercle ,we are all guility of that fucked up cercle in one way or a nother,raither it be useing or looking down on others witch causes them to use more,.if every body on the planet could only just stop and be nice ,careing, loveing helpfull, kind,non judgeing,non figure pointing,non just fucking life up for ours, for 1 year, the drug use would burn its self out & people wouldnt feel they needed it or want it any more. What a fat chance of that ever happening thow. Life has been come so hard just to get by,so fucked up,so mean,,so why the fuck not get fucked up,people dont care any more about how they make others feel in side. & NOT I DONT DO DRUGS ANY MORE BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WHY I US TO YEARS AGO, & WHY OTHERS DO THEM TO. we all dont, cant ,or even live to make it clean again,Im a fucking mericle to be clean & alife today.
Thank you for this comment on personal responsibility and drug use. This is the key to the whole problem, how to help folks function in a pretty messed up complicated world without using drugs to get by.
~could it be the fundamental, basic, Golden Rule we refuse to see and meter inward and outward?
Do unto others as we would have them do unto us.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. same/same
I agree T. Just legalize the stuff, call it a health issue, which it is, problem solved. Prohibition simply does not work. People are going to do what people want to do. Ask the Dutch. Besides, seems we have a bigger problem with opioids which can be found in just about anyone’s medicine cabinet.
Not what goes on at all
https://www.holland.com/global/tourism/information/dutch-drug-policy.htm
Nowhere near 30000 illegals a month come over…
hrmm. just fyi combat load out rucks are ovwr 80lbs figure if you figure a average person can carry 60 lbs 50 percent could be weigjt for drugs thats 30 lbs. times 100 or so mules a day that is a low number to average since it is less than 10 percent of the number of persons that cross . tjat comes out to around 3k lbs a day 7 days a week .156k lbs a year or rougjly 550 tons.
If they could only get away with that much lol. They wouldn’t have to ship anything through ports of entry. Nice work with the hypothetical math calculations, however unrealistic it is.
How many addicts and meth heads you know? And you know WHO they voted for?? Someone is being fed a line all right….
State of mind…just cause someone disagrees with you doesn’t automatically mean they have pom poms for the other side. LMFAO! I don’t know, maybe after years, of watching neighbors get busted & plastered on national news, smuggling pounds across state lines in cars, trucks & moving van, mail etc vs walking it across to other states, gave me the idea vs the bird seed you think I feed on. Take care lil birdie, your a cutie!
Right, But they were all conservatives. How do you think Trump makes his money? No one checks Air Force One when it returns from a trip. And we should include his kids. Showing way too much money for working a Gov’t job………………………… And the opioid manufacturers are all conservative right wingers. They believe if they can turn a buck it should be legal. Especially the Senator from Kentucky.
The only heroin addicts I know personally are very Republican midwestern cousins. I do know that addiction is a problem across the country regardless of political affiliation.
yet they just got 250 pounds of Fentanyl and 350 pounds of meth at the Nogales Commercial Border crossing. the drug dog found it in a load of cucumbers. largest bust of Fentanyl to date.
If it was ‘walked over’ the border, it was likely UNDERGROUND, literally.
So… these foreigners never get charged? Seems more logical to find out the local middle men & bust them also. If our local government & law enforcement were as good at going after pot growers as heroine/meth dealers… the County would be quite nice.
This guy IS a middle man!
Im sure some of the drugs are packed in back packs across the border and thar many other ways they get here but soom do come across by back packs
How is a wall going to stop drug smuggling? Or any smuggling. Do you understand smuggling means hiding stuff.? Not walking in the open.
If you have a wall and you have to use the gate then you can concentrate on the gate! Nothing will stop all of it ! However the wall will reduce the amount significantly. Its like why clean your house its just going to get dirty again, you can never get rid of all the dirt!??? Why mow the lawn its just going to grow back!? TO reduce the amount and make things manageable.
80% of all heroin coming in from Mexico comes in container trucks thru the border checkpoints. Less than 2% has ever been found at border walk in gates…
Well that’s a really stupid analogy. Dirt and grass?
Next.
So, your plan is to reduce supply (with demand being at an all-time high) with the intended result of reducing demand.
Genius, you must have gone to one of dem fancy schools.
same reason you have a lock on your house, your car, your cell phone, your gate of your fence…. don’t tell me securing something doesn’t work when it is obviously done everyday folks
Yeah walls and security, tell that to the prisons that are drug infested. lol.
This isn’t part of “the opioid crisis ” is it? That’s only the pharmaceutical companies and their deep pockets, not that the cartels don’t have deep pockets but those are out of reach to those lining up to profit off the opioid crisis.
🕯I can almost guarantee that what he hid did not come across that damn southern border. A good researcher would have found out that this guy entered the United States in San Francisco were he was known to pick up packages at the port of entry, the harbor for those that might be lost. It’s great to be a Research Paralegal. Brian the City Attorney from Eureka says hi.🖖
Thank you Willie. It’s virtually impressible to enlighten people that wont research, wont read, and are quick to believe the propaganda they are fed. God forbid listening to somebody that might actually have experience and knowledge in how things work in the real world.
The same is true for those making such accusations.
Ese camarada parse katracho.a mi.
hear hear
Hahaha lets not forget US troops in Afghanistan protect the Opium Poppy fields a d the US Government along with CIA
Drug trafficking is an international industry. If you close off one border, I guaran-fucking-tee you that the flow of drugs into this country will not change one iota. You will only move the bottom line from one producing region to another. What’s the most efficient, cost effective way to reduce drug trafficking?
“What’s the most efficient, cost effective way to reduce drug trafficking?” The ones that the government will never do nor the public allow. The trouble is that what is wanted is a painless, feel good government enforced solution. That won’t inconvenience anyone and won’t cost lots and lots of money. Which of course is a fantasy.
reduce demand. history has already proven that you can’t reduce supply when there is a demand. this isn’t political or about a wall, neither one will reduce the supply. if you look at the US maps depicting the hard drug data, you quickly learn the #1 problem and its demographics. you can even overlay several other data maps with similarity to draw a valid conclusion.
Thank you. Evidence based solutions.
Really? I hadn’t noticed such success in reducing drug addiction by blaming. Nor in liberal conclaves like California. At least no success in local’s usually target, blaming conservatives when not blaming inbred locals.
they are both in the same demographic. education is once again the solution to this problem, but the problem is how do you educate trailer park USA.
Cristal try it once.95% take it to their grave.setting.airforce required to take (physiological analog) no addiction.setting.veterans of Vietnam left it behind.setting.cristal is not addictive it is given to the girls to market them to the masoginist male.quien yo? Never pay ransom,police always steel it. Call us fbi.they require our participation to get at mexico elite forces to train electronic counter surveillance that we and isrealies taught to some criminal,or revolutionary forces.never take prisoners as police release.never trust police or mexico marines.ruger 308,my recommendation . Names are changing.metamorphis everywhere.we deported several brilliant young men ,Inglis first language.it isn’t money,brains in mexico average IQ is 85,up to 20 points lower where we have no running water or electricity.water is carried balanced on head from potholes on river bed.by femalesor jotos.nice people.the poor ones.proudest people I’ve seen.aguascalientes de cevada.canefields,hotspring,some Chinese people.girls with beautiful eyes.even lost my heart to a girl when is was young.people like us don’t get normal..
Exactly.
Well said!!
Re Stuber: try addressing the problem of all the white addicts creating a huge demand. If there was no demand then…? Why are so many white males and women heroin addicts?
The wall will not do anything about America’s Massive Apetite for illegal drugs. I have never heard Trump talk about building rehab clinics and maybe taking the junkies off the streets and getting them off junk. This wall is just a distraction and a monument to the unending immeasurable Trump Ego.
Someone should call ICE, get rid of him now.
It is literally against the law for public employees to call ICE in this ridiculous state with its idiotic voters .
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-sanctuary-state-criminals-explained-20180406-htmlstory.html
Can citizens reading articles like this call ICE?
ICE Phone Number
802-872-6199
866-347-2432
ICE Phone Number
802-872-6199
866-347-2432
The problem with that is that you have to provide notice of the release date so he could be picked up. Only officials know that. And, if an end run was attempted by having citizens reporting, then it would be illegal for the public to be notified.
Then again the police have a system to use to effectivel provide notification. And to hold the prisoner for pick up if requested. The public does not and sorting through the public’s lack of needed information would mean it would never be effective even if they did have the release date.
No. Official channels are the only real method and that has been shut off. In full understanding of what harm to the public that could do, authored by people who well knew what they were doing.
” Official channels are the only real method and that has been shut off. In full understanding of what harm to the public that could do, authored by people who well knew what they were doing.”
~you can say that again!
If he had been charged with trafficking instead of possession and transportation of controlled substances, they could have notified ICE of his release date.
Illegal immigrants have to be charged with one of the crimes listed in the Trust Act of 2013 in order for local law enforcement to be allowed to work with ICE.
It’s somewhat explained in the article Kym linked, but the headline is misleading to the point of being a flat out like.
“It’s for personal use, Officer!”
🕯I have a real personal hate towards this drug and anyone associated with it and it’s not from use.
U need to relax.
Hmmm if only we had a way to impede illegal entry and drugs. He should be forced to smoke it all and then deported.
Safe to say he is illegally here, 3 hots and a cot for a couple weeks, a ride to the border turn him loose to do it again! Good job LEO. To bad the court system will kick him. Thanks Jerry Moonbeam
A free ride back across the border so they can repeat.
Good catch!
Rest, recuperate, repeat. The 3 R’s under the govt ran education system.
Hmm was there something in that article I missed, like him being here illegal, besides the fact that he is a drug munkey?
“Mexican national”
Not deported if he sings.
Build the wall, no sanctuary, call ICE
Build the wall, no sanctuary, call ICE, call a conservative, call Trump and nothing happens. They forgot all houses have back doors and windows. Yuk, yuk, yuk, yuk!!
You prefer to do absolutely nothing to try to prevent foreigners from coming here to commit crimes in our country?
Nope, just a better idea, than a wall that won’t work. More horseback patrol, drones, Jeep’s n dirt bike patrol all sounds better than a waste of $ on a fence.
Seriously you’re not the sharpest tool in the shed obviously. Where did you get your talking points have ever been to the border?
Speak for yourself!
Katrachos on motorcycles with cameras.
Let me guess, Pelosi is doing a great job, right?
Ask Erik Kirk about his sanctuary county plan again?
~the “Sanctuary” County thingie is applicable in the unincorporated parts of Humboldt. Looks like this guy was caught in the City limits of Arcata? ~sorry Charlie, no “Sanctuary” for you.
Like Measure O theft, Sanctuary areas within a State should never have been balloted.
Make him grow pot.
Make it a sanctuary. This means cutting off all federal funding.
~oh no! How would the fifth largest economy on planet Earth ever survive?
build all the fuckin walls you want. No one tunnels under a wall better than a drug runner. Invest in Ace hardware shovels, Everyone in Mexico is buying one,fuck your walls
so by your theory since homes can be broken into we shouldnt bother with licks on the doors. and since safes are broken into maybe we shouldnt have them,ya know just leave the cash on a table or something.
No I ink what that theory is is if there’s something on the other side of the wall that a criminal wants he’ll find a way to get there. That’s the first problem. Problem #2 is smuggling doesn’t happen in plain sight. Meaning they don’t walk across the desert in plain sight with millions of $$s worth of drugs on them. Nor does human trafficking happen that way. You people need to understand hoe “smuggling” works. Te authorities know and the powers that be and that’s why we don’t have funding for a wall. Because a wall wont address the source of the problems and wont stop smuggling at all.
You haven’t seen the trail cam videos posted in various news sites? They even wear carpet slippers over their shoes to avoid leaving tracks.
A smart fence may have a double meaning.
Remember Mad Max Waters telling that anchorman about BHO’s big bruddah surveilance tech on every individual? Smart technology has come a long way, both good and bad. I guess it depends on who runs the show?
South America is beautiful along the coast and in the jungles. If I were them, I’d highly consider making it a more welcoming, less threatening, area so that those who need their ‘fix’ will feel free to hook up down that way. But, that’s just an off the wall, knee jerk, uncarefully thought out thought that seems to surface at this moment in time. Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Hell, I’m sure the communities will be happy to chip in for the air conditioned bus ride. Just sayin’.
will they mail their USA welfare checks down there, for them?
real smugglers do so in plain sight. the best way ever to break a law is to do so in such a way where your actions do not seem out of normal. it is the efforts to hide thst tend to trigger closer looks and checks . but what would i know about any of that.
Antichrist that makes too much sense for common minds to understand. I wonder if you fully understand what you just said.
Simple “where your actions do not seem out of normal” = drive right through the legal ports of entry or dock a fishing bout etc. in plain sight.
“hide that tends to trigger closer looks and checks” = try to cross the border where there is no legal port of entry.
Your hired.
You’ve obviously never smuggled just acting like you know what you’re talking about.
1 kilo $20,20 grams hash oil.decolorize swirling it in etoh with activated carbon.chlorifil harsh. $20,000ton.1980.peso now worth half.good for usa.allies now taliban.i devource you ,said 3 times.just like mexico.word worth more than paper.men rule.join us just close your eyes and turn around three times.
Yeah these people are so mislead about how smuggling works. It doesn’t happen in plain sight walking across the desert borders. Smugglers don’r risk losing there products in plain sight.
Or it does. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/33433955/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/illegal-drugs-flow-over-under-us-border/#.XE9_v9WIaf0
Or not. While pounds are coming in that way, which BTW stated hiding behind the fence and barrios already in place, hundreds of tons come in these other ways. Education is gold.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/border-issues/2019/01/08/most-hard-drugs-get-smuggled-into-u-s-through-ports-entry/2517586002/
“National Drug Threat Assessment Summary, October 2015: Mexican TCOs transport the bulk of their drugs over the Southwest Border through ports of entry (POEs) using passenger vehicles or tractor trailers. The drugs are typically secreted in hidden compartments when transported in passenger vehicles or comingled with legitimate goods when transported in tractor trailers. Once across the Southwest Border, the drugs are transported to stash houses in hub cities such as Dallas, Houston, Los Angeles, and Phoenix, and then transported via these same conveyances to distribution groups in the Midwest and on the East Coast.”
Source;
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/08/will-trumps-wall-stop-drug-smuggling/
“Rear Admiral Christopher Tomney: Tackling the priority networks
Rear Admiral Christopher Tomney is director of Joint Interagency Task Force South for the US Coast Guard.
“We cover over 40 million square nautical miles, and reach well out into the Atlantic, throughout north, central and south America as well as all the way out into the eastern Pacific.
“The number one drug we see moving is cocaine. Last year we were able to successfully take out of the pipeline 191 metric tonnes of cocaine. Around 20 to 25% of cocaine around the globe is interdicted.
“The cartels are very innovative. Due to their large profits, they have a lot of money they can throw at technology.
“In the early days of this task force – and we’ve been around for 26 years – we saw much higher movement using non-commercial aircraft to fly the drugs northwards.
“[Now] well over 95% of the drugs are moving on the water via container ships, non-commercial vessels, pleasure boats, sail boats, fishing boats. They also have fast boats which try to outrun our law enforcement assets.”
Source;
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34934574
Published 6:29 p.m. MT Jan. 8, 2019 | Updated 4:50 p.m. MT Jan. 10, 2019
“TUCSON — As President Donald Trump pushes Congress to set aside more money to build additional barriers along the U.S.-Mexico border, he frequently, and falsely, claims that his promised wall would help stem the flow of illegal narcotics into the country.
But data from his own administration repeatedly show that a rising number of smuggled drugs, especially more potent ones like heroin and cocaine, are increasingly seized at legal ports of entry, which are not impacted by a wall. ”
Source;
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/border-issues/2019/01/08/most-hard-drugs-get-smuggled-into-u-s-through-ports-entry/2517586002/
Education is your friend
One ton fentanyl seized last year.less than 10%.
“Then came the fences. One perimeter, then a secondary. The fences helped the Border Patrol reclaim this little sliver of the country.
But the fences did not stop the drug smuggling. With a near-infinite supply of money and resources on the other side, drugs continue to move under, around and through anything the country builds.
No wall will stop them.”
“Drugs: An endless fight: DEA and Customs and Border Patrol work to stop drugs coming from Mexico by land, sea, and even by tunnel. (USA TODAY NETWORK)”
“Fences went up, but drugs kept moving.
After the government built fences in San Diego, drug smugglers turned to the ocean, underground tunnels and, most commonly, the ports of entry. Last year more than 90 percent of the drug seizures happened in the port of entry, where millions of cars drive into San Diego from Mexico every year.
David Shaw is Unzueta’s successor at Homeland Security Investigations. The unit investigates cross-border crimes such as human trafficking, money laundering and drug smuggling.
Cartels “operate like a business,” Shaw says. “If you put up one wall, they find a way to get around it.”
source;
https://www.usatoday.com/border-wall/story/drug-trafficking-smuggling-cartels-tunnels/559814001/
Great compilation of information here, good job and thanks.
Stryker Tony, the answer is to shut the border down period.
Shutting down the southern border? What about the rest of the ports of entry up and down ALL the coast lines around the US, east coast, west cost, Gulf cost and Canadian border? Or was that what you meant? Didn’t Trump shut down the southern border once already? How’d that workout? lol.
Stryker,
I think what the racists are trying to say is they hate mexicans.
They just don’t have the balls or brains to say it.
So they try to say the drugs will stop with a border. It’s diversion.
Maybe I’m jumping to conclusions. But yeah.
Yes Brian that’s probably a good portion of reason. However, I think a great deal of them are just horribly mislead.
Yes, I agree.
I think you did a great job of presenting info objectively, though.
What a wonderful cabal between those who seek riches at our country’s expense and those who would protect them at every turn. What a vicious combination that welcomes criminals to wreak whatever damage they want by labelling any attempt to stop them as racist- that never ever offers a solution but only frustrates every attempt with screams of racism whenever that attempt targets people with whom they foolishly identify more than with their own country. Such hate for their own country that they prefer it collapse as if they will will somehow be above the chaos they create if they are successful. They force evil choices by frustrating every alternatives except matching their hate with more hate.
Can I recommend some calming tea for You?
People don’t care about facts and information, so I’m not going to waste my time.
Yet you keep doing it. But At least you don’t take up any time bothering to read links from commenters you don’t like.
Guest,
You have provided many here, what do you want to discuss with me in particular?
Provide a link if you want me to read it.
Are you upset about my comment? To make you feel better, the NOI leader Louis F is a racist. He is black.
But, on that note, is there a black caucus that is giving a shit about the wall, or is it all European descendents?
That’s why you prosecute drug addicts and don’t give them safe injection sites. Addiction is not a victimless crime and should not be given a pass, no matter how sad it is. It destroys the addict, the addicts family and friends, it creates a market for these hard drugs that come here. It promotes other crime by the addicts themselves, assault, robbery, etc. And by the much more hardcore people who bring the drugs here, robbery, extortion, assault, murder. It gives gangs a way to support themselves. The saddest thing though is what it does to innocent families in places where those drugs are produces, which have far less laws than here. For every line snorted or every injection done, there is a family in Mexico or Colombia that is being displaced, land is being taken, mother or father killed. The only solution is to take the market away, and that does not mean legalizing hard drugs haha. It starts with prosecuting the people who use them.
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Transpacific pipe line,car fentanyl.as easy to make as fentanyl?Russia has a witch.an unbeatable submarine drone.
Wishful thinking, bud. It’s extremely easy to determine if a border wall would be effective (provided the obvious is not something you’re acquainted with). Let me help:
1: Are there any other border walls in the world?
2: Are they effective at reducing border crossings?
The answer to both questions is of course a resounding yes.
Rather than waste your time making yourself sound like an ignoramus, why not just be forthright and argue your actual position, which is that you do not believe there should be any restriction regarding who enters the country, nor any record-keeping of such. If that position were at all defensible, I’m sure you’d take that course of action.
LiterallyEveryoneNotinCAorNYC
“you do not believe there should be any restriction regarding who enters the country, nor any record-keeping of such.”
Do you honestly think any legal abiding citizen actually feels that way.
Here let me help you
“The Gov is shut down for one reason and one reason only, the democrats don’t want border security.”
Trump
You believe that too don’t you.
If there were any evidence a wall would work it would have been built or at least funded when the house, senate was controlled by republicans.
Do you see flaws in your logic?
Do you see your own flaws?
Guest if you are going to ask a question like that you need to point out what YOU think are flaws in any of the information I presented.
But keep in mind everything I presented is document official stats and facts compiled by professionals.
So I assume it’s just your OPINION there’s flaws. But to give you the benefit of the doubt nothing is perfect in a complex situation so if you can find a flaw I’m sure the experts would love to here about it so than can fix their mistakes.
🕯Ok spit out them stats from non bias website because I will call them out.
Here you go have at it.
http://www.nascsa.org/Conference2017/presentations/pena.pdf
The Southwest land border POEs are the major points of entry for illegal drugs, where smugglers use a wide variety of tactics and techniques for concealing drugs. CBP officers regularly find drugs ingested, concealed in body cavities, taped to bodies (body carriers), hidden inside vehicle seat cushions, gas tanks, dash boards, tires, packaged food, household and hygiene products, in checked luggage, and concealed in construction materials on commercial trucks. While many smuggling attempts occur at POEs, the mail and express consignment environment, as well as maritime cargo also remain attractive options for smugglers.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/02/16/written-testimony-cbp-house-homeland-security-subcommittee-border-and-maritime
Amazing, good job to law enforcement.
The fact is the vast majority of the drug trade crosses into this country at legal points of entry including airports and ports of call. The first thing we need to do, re: a wall’ is ask the local jurisdictions and private land owners along the border what they want in the way of border security. If you’re going to use imminent domain to to build a wall across someones private property you’d do well to get some input from the folks that will be directly affected by this project.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/25/us/drugs-border-wall.html
It depends on where the squeeze is put. It is not just drugs but the people who distribute them and return the profits to the cartels that are at issue. I imagine that if there was effective policing of people who are illegally here, the issue of drugs would be much smaller.
Where do you get the idea that illegal immigrants are responsible for drug smuggling?
Not all heroin smugglers are illegal immigrants, there’s some legal immigrants that do it also.
Where do you get the idea that none are?
Guest where do you get the idea ANYBODY thinks “none are”
You know there’s a lot of really good official government web sites and other official expert organizations that are tasked with research and data gathering and presenting officials and the public with documented and peer review informational documents and statistics free for those willing to take the time to educate themselves on many subjects. It would do you justice to take some time and look into that with an open mind and consideration that you might not have all your ducks in a row.
“Where do you get the idea that none are?” “Democrats don’t want border security”
Intelligent people no better.
Deflecting into personal accusations is not exactly research. Nor does it answer the question of what do you think would work to stop the influx of criminals and their destructive drugs? Got any answers except to blame those who are addicts and will certainly not provide a solution?
I’ve reached the conclusion that if a stupid wall is the best that can be tried in the face of social agitation to not inconvenience the people who have already entered illegally, than give it a try. People who are haters will certainly prevent any really effective control.
🕯Democratic’s want Border Security just not a medieval WALL. Remember the the interview during the campaign were he says that the only reason why he wants the WALL was so he could put his name on it . In his own words “maybe big gold letters, wouldn’t that be something to see” . He doesn’t give a shit about our country’s security or he wouldn’t of had daddy pay a cheap ass foot doctor after 5 failed other attempts he had to depend on daddy to stay out of a war. Just like now trying to keep that base. Ain’t gonna happen.
Give a reference because I doubt he said what you reported. Probably the word “only” never appeared once. Just that he would be happy to have his name on something that was a campaign promise. Hopefully if he doesn’t get it, he will have at least traded it for some improved level of border control. Probably something that could have been easily redone before if Congress cared to do the work.
Education and support. Mexico is not the problem. We as Americans are the consumers, no one is forcing it down our throats. They are supplying a demand. Thats capitalism, that is OUR mantra. Maybe we should be taking a closer look at why THIS country demands such a high quantity of drugs compared to other countries.
You can pretty safely order any drug in any quantity online nowadays and have it discretely delivered to your door by u.s.mail. You can make meth in your kitchen. I once saw a guy huff spray-paint to get high, and another drink a whole bottle of robitussin.
The problem is within our borders.
There is probably a huge influx of heroin and meth during the government shutdown nobody was watching our borders
Mogtx, pretty sure more than drugs happened. Breaches in airport security, law enforcement, FBI etc. Unlimited possibility of like sensitive/classified information and materials transfer in and out of the country along with people, spies, terrorists etc. I think the controlling powers knew exactly what they were doing by shutting down the gov. We’ll have some kind of attack, crisis in the future, maybe even after Trump is gone, directly related to the breaches in national security while the gov was shut down.
Yeah, right. Good shifting blame onto those you hate in advance of anything happening much less an examination of what happened when it happens. Pre incident blaming- the latest tactic in twisting the government into a tool for the agenda. Then when something happens, anything happens, the pre accusers will waggle their fingers, say “see! I told you. No need to look further.”
You blame the same if they do or don’t do.
To that point:
https://duo.com/decipher/government-shutdown-impacts-enterprise-security
Tailgate that’s a great article thanks for sharing it. That’s just a chip of the ice burg.
You’re welcome. And yes, only the tip. It may take years to fully grasp the implications of this shutdown.
Mogtox, thats not how it works.
Yes, there are a couple reports of trash buildup next to some cans at National parks, but planes still flew, boarder security was still in place, and Scully and Mulder still continued their search for UFOs .
Sheesh, some peoples kids!
Back in the 1970’s I lived in a dilapidated ranch house on a thousand acres in Tucson, Arizona. There was an old airstrip there which I am sure was used for importing drugs. Walls will not keep the cartels out. As one person commented people who travel hundreds of miles to the border crossing aren’t likely to be drug dealers. Dealers live a much more illustrious and charmed life. I agree we need immigration reform but spending billions on a wall isn’t it. We need that money for those on our Homeland; our veterans, elderly, youth, homeless and mentally ill.
That would be a good start.
As I see It, you’re spot on. But add to that list, drug addiction prevention, education, prostitution,(which is part of the human trafficking problem via sex rings), which is not an immigration problem legal or illegal,. Job screening so only US citizens and documented workers are hired. No jobs for illegal, no demand for drugs and prostitution, smuggling goes away. Then authorities could, and should now, concentrate efforts on humanly processing migrants and refugees. Just think how far $5.7 billion would go on processing refugees etc. If they were treaty humanly and thought they had a fair shake at being legal they wouldn’t try to breach the border illegally.
“no demand for drugs or prostitution”
Yes, drugs and sex will no longer be desired by anyone. Great idea. I wonder why nobody thought of it before. 😉
Oh well, I guess “back in the 70’s” is totally the same as now. [edit] Please try arguing your actual position, which is that you are in favor of a porous border through which whomever wishes can pass without leaving any record. That is what you are arguing for. The rest of us are arguing for an impediment that prevents this in 98% of cases or more. To claim a wall “will not work” is the height of foolish ignorance – there are numerous existing walls that are presently serving their purpose with extraordinary success. This is so obvious that it’s absurd that we have to point it out. Please attempt to be intellectually honest in the future – people might listen to you in that event.
LiterallyEveryoneNotinCAorNYC
OK I lived in San Diego for 45 years and it was no different then than it is now. They still smuggle drugs and people through ports of entry. Not across the desert in plain sight on an international border from a country that is known to be one of the biggest drug cartel heavens in the world into a country that has some of the most sophisticated surveillance technology in the world.
Uses the phrase ” Please try arguing your actual position, which is that you are in favor of a porous border through which whomever wishes can pass without leaving any record.” makes you sound like Trump.
“The Gov is shut down for one reason and one reason only, the democrats don’t want border security.”
Trump And you believe that too don’t you.
Also if you want to claim walls are working somewhere else please tell us where and what they are being used,(successfully) for.
You sound like a Trump propaganda machine.
And before go accusing me of being a leftist liberal, I’d be slamming that side even harder.
israel has a wall that seems to work pretty well.
Why didn’t they use the Bearcat to arrest this guy? Photo op missed.
Its damned near impossible to stop addicts from getting what they want. A wall would have not stopped the “French Connection” . There is no way a “fixed fortification” is going to stop anything as slippery as the flow of smack backed by serious money. If all else fails cash will grease the wheels to perdition.
The best that can be done is to minimize the new addictions.
THIS RIGHT HERE ^^^^^ MOST EFFECTIVE MEANS TO STEM THE FLOW OF DRUGS. NOT A QUICK FIX, HARD, LONG WORK. BEST OUTCOMES.
A couple of things…
1)The arrestee is from Sonora, Mexico. That does not make him illegal. He could be, and probably is here legally on a visa.
If he is here legally and is accused of a crime, it does not make him illegal, as in this country, we still operate under a rule of law, and a suspect is just that, a suspect, and if a District Attorney finds a preponderance of evidence (like 6 lbs. of heroin!), he can be tried in court, where innocence is assumed until he is convicted or acquitted in a court of law. Even foreign nationals are extended many of the same rights as citizens.
Amazing, huh?
So, all of your bloviated bullshit about illegals, build a wall! Make him smoke that shit! I hate it! Blah, blah, blah is only so much bullshit.
Many have refuted the effectiveness of a wall, so I won’t compound THAT particular form of stupidity.
2)A wall won’t stop drugs. A wall won’t stop shit!
This guy didn’t walk across. Are you kidding? He’s a mid-level manager. He’s in sales and distribution. He works for a corporation…(Cartel!) He probably flew on United, to replace the last mid- level manager arrested last week/month/year.
Cartels are not only run LIKE a business, they ARE businesses…. Much the same way freedom fighters to you are terrorists to their more pastoral neighbor’s.
Words are funny that way.
Drug Cartel CEO’s (AKA Kingpins!) can be both! (Freedom fighters/Terrorists, AND Kingpins!…think Whitey Bolger., or el Chapo,..)
StrykerToby has pointed out some glaring problems, and an interesting thought experiment…treat people humanely. Put 5.7 bu bu bu billion toward that!
FUCK THE WALL, AND THE ORANGE SHIT GIBBON PUSHING IT!
Many have refuted the effectiveness of a wall, and those people are blithering fools who have refuted nothing other than the perception that they were in possession of genuine intellectual faculties. Ask Hungary or Israel if their recently-constructed walls are effective at controlling unauthorized border crossings.
You make a valid point about his status being unclear – he’s certainly a Mexican national and not a US resident. Has he been here past his tourist visa date? Maybe, maybe not, the article was not able to explain because YOU HAVE MADE DOING SO IMPOSSIBLE. In what universe is hiding factual information helping? A distorted one with terrible unforseen-consequences, as you’ll surely find out in due time.
A wall is very much a component in stopping drugs. If you think most of your cheap heroin is coming over via a speedboat or expensive tunnel complex you’re a fool. Why would anyone go through the trouble if you can just load up a tacoma with baja shocks and drive it over the desert 200 lbs at a time? You’ll know the wall is working when the price of your drugs DRAMATICALLY INCREASES. Which is very effective and the primary reason cigarettes taxes keep going up – do you support that? why? what’s the difference, in practice for the user?
As for your last point, you’re also technically correct. The problem is that you don’t understand anything about business, the first problem being how hard it is to find competent employees. The sort of mastermind you envision is not all that common, and there aren’t enough of them to personally handle every angle of a large, intercontinental drug smuggling racket. If you increase the difficulty even marginally you will have an enormous impact on their drug business. This is a fact. THEN, you supplement that with other measures to reduce demand. Why are people buying these drugs? There are answers to those questions and there are solutions. If you actually care about the suffering of people caught up in addiction or the suffering of people caught up in this business, you would support doing something about it, but you don’t. All you support is calling people names like a four year old. You are welcome to do so, but in the meantime I suggest you let the grown-ups make the important decisions. I don’t want to live in a world managed by four- year olds, and you won’t survive in one longer than a day so you should probably agree.
LiterallyEveryoneNotinCAorNYC “refuted the effectiveness of a wall, and those people are blithering fools who have refuted nothing other than the perception that they were in possession of genuine intellectual faculties.
We are referring to a plethora of experts analysts including environmentalists, economist, builders, engineers and designers, developers, DHS analysts and more that have done there time and research and on conclusion sent documents to congress and the white house. These aren’t blithering idiots with an agenda. You would know this if you weren’t one sided and blinded by brainwashing propaganda.
If there were any conclusive evidence a wall would justify the the cost with a return of effectiveness in even the slightest the funding for the wall would have been located tears ago. This isn’t a new idea you know. The idea of a complete border wall has been on the table for decades.
Since the gov has been primarily controlled by republicans for two years it they thought a wall would work it would have gotten funding a year ago.
Doesn’t really matter if this guy is here legally or illegally. He’s a foreign national (allegedly) holding 6 lbs of heroin and should be treated as such. If he’s here illegally, an additional crime could be charged but it’s a little like adding a parking ticket to a murder charge.
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Agreed, Ever so much especially your last sentence, about the “Grinning Gibbon”!!!
Hey Kym, what is your policy on pointing out the resemblance of Presidents to apes/monkeys?
If it’s ok wrt the current President is it also ok wrt past ones? If not, why? Seems like a slippery and offensive slope.
How old are you? LOL
I’m not offended by it. We are all apes. Just want to make sure it’s acceptable here before I reply to these remarks with images of one of the past Presidents. 🙂
Her policy is that every non minority public figure is fair game for racist remarks. It’s the constant unedited remarks that white people are all racist whenever they disagree with a poster that is really egregious. It ends up in the ridiculous spit fest of objecting to uncontrolled immigration, being called a racist simply because the mass of illegal immigration is from Spanish speaking countries at this point, objecting to being called racist and the haters doubling down by saying that objecting is racist.
There can never be any effective policy that slows illegal immigration because- tah tah- that is itself going to be called racist. The more effective, the more racist it will be called. In order not the fall down the rabbit hole of actual racism, I keep having to reminding myself of the good people of other I have met and that they are not all the race baiting supercilious loudmouths that hate so much that show up in the comment section. That it is possible to improve our failures without falling into an out hating each other war.
Thank you…(not so much) for speaking for me.
My policy is stated in the comment from me below.
You could use your own words but in the absence of even one example, the answer is reasonably clearly “no”. If you define racism as something that can’t be done by someone who historically was in power, then no white person can ever be protected from race based attack or a race based hate crime. That idea leads to only two things- either some other group gains dominance and Caucasians fall into a protected status or they retain dominance. But either way the opportunity to minimize racial tensions by making all raced based decisions an anathema has flow by without any improvement. Too bad.
Guest,
Please cite a “white people are all racist” remark, I havnt seen that.
Racism can come from many, Louis Farrakhan comes to mind. He’s black.
Here in America the dominant class is white males. So it might be hard to be “racially sensitive” with derogatory terms to a white male.
Simply put, we don’t have the same experiences so our sensitivities are different than minorities.
What a racist remarks calling a white man an orange monkey.
Then I can call Obama a chimpanzee?
No.
If you want to pick some less racially charged image, go ahead. But while there are no racially sensitive connections between Germanic ancestors and primates, there are with black people. I have only so much energy to parse this out so pick something innocuous but distasteful to you if you must (slug, worm, mule come to mind) but not a primate.
Is there ever going to be ANY pejorative that you will find “racially sensitive” if used to describe a white person?
you are insulting your intelligence. she may edit ignorant privileged white person, lets see.
Cracker comes to mind.
Lost Coast EMP,
I would like to explore why you would call Obama a chimp.
What’s the connection, or why is it comically appropriate, if you don’t think it’s racially charged?
He is obviously no more a chimp than your President Trump is an orangutan.
Your white. I’m white.
I’m not crying if you call me names: For a number of reasons.
But I’m not going to call a black man a nigger or a chimp. I’m not going to call a Mexican or Spaniard descendant a wetback or spick.
Why?
Because I’m not ignorant.
Treat people humanely seems be becoming more and more a foreign concept in America.
Make America great again?
How about, “make people in America great again.”
You first. I long for kind words… oh wait…
🕯🕯🖖BRAVO
We dont need any more foreigners here in the US.
Let them stay in there shithole countries.
Fuck racism. Fuck xenophobia. And fuck your shitholian ancestors.
Congratulations. That is the sort of idiocy that constant race baiting gets. “fuck your shitholian ancestors” too.
Congratulations for excusing racism/xenophobia, and degrading a persons response to it.
What I notice most about you, Guest:
Who don’t respond to and who you do respond to. What you say to them, and what you don’t say to others.
That’s because you don’t read comprehensively, assume a lot and think personal attacks are a substitute for both. If a person has a cognizant opinion, I might debate it if I disagree. Or simply not respond it if it appears too irrational and I think it’s obviously so and thus not dangerous. But, if they resort to personal insult, invective or insult, then my inner defender of the oppressed comes out. That includes members of usually not defended classes if I believe the attacks are excessive.
Frankly, I occasionally counter attack if I think a popularly identified oppressed group is being abused without defense but it rarely happens as the people who long for attacking mindlessly will recognize the socially correct target and have at it. However when it becomes a mindless pile on or a lack of recognition that is what they are doing, I will do my best to stop it.
The most irritating thing for me is those who think there is nothing wrong with abusing a person based on race if they think that the person is a member of a group that has power. Such stupidity as membership in a privileged class is fluid. It is buying into the foolish idea that anyone of any race of nationality is actually so protected that it is ok to apply one version of principle to one race but not to another. That is not equality. That is revenge. It is revenge that leads inevitably to more hate, violence and bigotry. Never less. So if you think it is wrong to insult the race or culture of a disaffected group, it is equally wrong to insult any other race or culture. Period. There are not principles on a sliding scale. There are only principles however inconvenient they are to using insult for emotional satisfaction.
BTW the fear of outsiders, ie xenophobia, is not an unreasonable nor, despite the redefining of the daddy internet, an altogether bad thing. It is part of examining what could be destructive or beneficial of your own culture to decide whether it is antithetical to a good life. For example, accepting female genital mutilation- which is certainly not called that in places where it is practiced- may be so harmful to the safety of women that it’s practice is destructive to the security of women who are not subject to it by their own culture. In the absence of xenophobia, live and let live philosophies may allow spread unchecked of destructive ideas. No, some reasonable measure of xenophobia is a good thing.
I hate those who seek to suppress every comment not to their liking especially those who do so in a knee jerk or insulting
way. I have now treated you as an adult worth explaining my thoughts to you. I seriously doubt whether you will be equally courteous but you have the opportunity.
Guest,
A long winded excuse, but not that reasonable.
You excused “shithole countries”start.
You attacked “shitholian ancestors” response.
Your choice is clear.
As I thought, you are not interested in understanding or discussion. Re: the shitholian: The first was a insult about other countries. The second was an insult to humans and specifically to the poster.
You will not apparently respond any person who disagrees with you without insulting them. Your words are just an example of why people worry about “xenos”. They think you are representative of them in your hatefulness. You contribute mightily to xenophobia.
I didn’t mean to offend you.
I think what I stated is clear, and non offensive.
I don’t want to imply you are a racist, but that your comments and debates are more lopsided than not.
Your stance on the comments regarding attacks on a “country” vs. a “People” is easily questionable. EASILY.
It also ignores who is throwing the first rocks, with clear xenophobia. Though you defend that to.
I disagree with you, and I’m responding.
I wonder if anyone in government has thought about injecting into the drug supply something that would appreciably shorten the lives of the addicts? A potent carcinogen, cumulative irreversible poison, etc. would work to eliminate the users which really are the problem and who are a burden to us all.
Have any countries tried this? Is it workable?
Kill people” good one. good lord. They would just find new ones.
Michael R. Ross – What you’re describing is called a hot shot. Been around for a very long time. “Appreciably shorten” = kill instantly. Countries where it happens? Certainly the U.S., for one. Used on individuals, and sometimes population clusters of addicts when it’s been decided that they’re getting a bit too out of hand. Easier than ever now with carfentanil, which is 5000 times stronger than heroin. And who makes use of it? That I leave up to you to research.
Like fentynyl?
Guest who the real shit gibbon is, blah,blah, you all hush, your arm chair quarterbacks, go to the boarder, work with the minute men, dont want to learn how shit really works? Then hush!!! Its that simple, you all have ideas,you have read reports, believe what you’ve read? Really, you all sound like drug dealers,watched movies, got it ALL figured out, when you get back from the boarder, get ahold of Kim, write a blog on what you really know.I made this comment last year but it looks like no one wants to see the truth.
Chairokee
I grew up in and lived in San Diego 50 years. I know a great deal of the realities of smuggling and human trafficking. I wont be writing anybody letters about my life, public or private. What I will say is most people are completely ignorant especially WALLNUTZ
There is a peculiar kind of delusion and arrogance in saying that you said something last year and everyone who is either unaware of it or not guided by it is unaware of the truth. Especially since what was expressed is all personal opinion.
~i think at 153 comments we’re all pretty delusional.
All of the excessive, abusive tactics employed by the U.S. Inc., today—warrantless surveillance, stop and frisk searches, SWAT team raids, roadside strip searches, asset forfeiture schemes, private prisons, indefinite detention, militarized police, etc.—will eventually be meted out on the general populace.
At that point, when you find yourself in the corporation’s crosshairs, it will not matter whether your skin is black or yellow or brown or white; it will not matter whether you’re an immigrant or a citizen; it will not matter whether you’re rich or poor; it will not matter whether you’re Republican or Democrat; and it certainly won’t matter who you voted for in the last presidential election.
At that point—at the point you find yourself subjected to dehumanizing, demoralizing, thuggish behavior by corporate bureaucrats who are hyped up on the pretend power of their badges and empowered to detain, search, interrogate, threaten and generally harass anyone they see fit.
No one can understand or appreciate those realities unless they’ve lived it, white and rode a motorcycle in the 70s with long hair and leather jacket. Or a black teenager living in the ghettos of San Diego in the 70s. Nothing’s changed, in fact it’s gotten worse but hidden better and people are fooled and delusional that have never experience it.
Really? This from it’s being all about you? You have not come close to having plumbed the depths of prejudice and abuse until you have been female in a world where half of almost every subdivision of the population still feels it’s fine to abuse them. Unless of course the long hair in the 70s you speak of was riding in the bitch seat.
No its simple fact, no arrogance!
🕯I really try not to make fun but minute man,that’s like the little green army men.
build the wall and save taxpayer dollars!
build the wall
🕯I’m sorry but about 7/10th of you you dont know what they fuck your talking about. Get your heads out of your asses and take a look at the real world. You people have been eating to many grapenuts or something. Have you ever sat back and looked at what you post? Half of you have never left Humboldt, so you dont really know what goes on beyond its borders besides what you learn from that blue screen. With your pasty white skin, maybe. Truth is what the candle is about. Will you post it? These o people know only know Hollywood not real world and what they they think they know of real world is on this screen not in the real world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IABRgZH12YA
~good show!
Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody Parody (Opinion Rhapsody)
Glad you enjoyed it too. It felt good to chuckle for a change.
Clever, but I had to back out, promptly. I just can’t handle autotune – and that guy was using it heavily (indicating he just can’t hold a note or carry a tune. Or he just didn’t take singing lessons or practice, practice, practice.)
All of which explains why true crooners such as Sara B. really are more of a rarity than Hollywood would have us think!
They were lip singing to a humorous skit about online arguments & trolls. It’s a parody off one of Queen’s songs.
I understand. Clever. I just couldn’t tolerate watching it for more than a moment due to the harsh (IMO) acoustics.
The bummer curse of blessed ears. That sucks.
So be it. Consider yourself unfriended and blocked then.
(it took me a few days, but I finally see the humor. Face palm).
you sir are being racist. quote ‘With your pasty white skin’
But it’s good racism….
The wall is a distraction & a symbol of no real use. Almost all
illicit drugs come through legal ports of entry including airports. While we fight over something expensive & useless, the treasury is being ransacked.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.wola.org/analysis/four-common-misconceptions-u-s-bound-drug-flows-mexico-central-america/&ved=2ahUKEwiF_rjek5LgAhVGtIMKHa6kCEYQFjAAegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw3C7HMYwPFgs5lHFhskIz20&cshid=1548736214109
Hawk that was a great and informative article.
At this I would like to also point out that there’s a huge purposely lead confusion by propaganda as to combine or relate immigration, refugees, asylum seekers, legal or otherwise, to human trafficking and human smuggling. Not one in the same. Human smuggling is done the same way drugs are smuggled.
Here’s an article that was posted just today about a bout that hit port in Huntington Beach LA smuggling humans.
12 people detained after human smuggling boat lands in Huntington Beach
By Alene Tchekmedyian
Jan 28, 2019 | 6:25 PM
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-boat-huntington-beach-dhs-20190128-story.html
Also human smuggling is a multi $billion a year industry which does NOT involve poor people trying to walk from 1,000 of miles away then cross into the US.
You can go to any official Gov site and get all this information.
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It’s an industry that is protected by those who would called racist not to protect it.
🕯Thank you Hank.
It may be true that a wall is the least effective control on illegal immigration but each proposal that would effectively reduce illegal immigration has been shot down one after the other, all called racism. With the excessive hate being spewed by those who favor the one way open border into the US but don’t demand the same from other countries, it is clearly become a desperate matter of last resorts.
Guest where is your evidence that anybody in this country wants one way open borders?
Again I’ll have to post this phrase for you.
“Democrats don’t want border security ”
Trump.
What you are saying is pure bullshit gust like Trump. Stop it already.
You shoot down everyone as racists who wants immigration control. What other conclusion can be drawn but that you don’t want immigration control?
Guest your blinded by something? You draw conclusion from what? You couldn’t be any farther from the truth about me. There’s something wrong with you?
Yes. I have a problem. I can’t stand racist remarks. Nor hateful personal attacks especially toward rather innocuous posters. Nor filters that edit out inconvenient contradictions. Nor having a principle that calls one race out for racism while never thinking about the inherent contradiction in the action of selecting one.
I asked a number of times what you would think was an effective policy to limit illegal immigration or smuggled drugs as an alternative to building a wall. Since you only very nastily attacked those who supported building a wall or didn’t accept your posted links as proof your opinion yet were silent on alternatives, what else can be assumed except you don’t object to enough about illegal drug smugglers or illegal immigration to have thought of useful alternatives?
You are what is wrong with me. Or at least your comments are. All wrong in fact.
Na, you just pick certain racist remarks to be offended by.
Great. An article by a lobby group. Whoopee. From their website : “WOLA’s role was not to “represent” Latin Americans but to give them access in the United States to those making the policies that had such a profound impact on their lives. This vital collaboration with partners in the region became the hallmark of WOLA’s work.”
Thank you.
It’s not just about drugs.
There have been good arguments on both sides of the fence and from the moderates, but a few of the issues are consistently left out.
Screening:
Slowing the flow of diseases, so the persons afflicted can be treated without affecting others. Ebola, Tuberculosis, Aides, Measles, … etc are but a few of the illnesses the border doctors and nurses have been treating. 2014 article barely scratches the surface. People have learned to be terrified of the common cold and flu, so it’s only natural they’re even more terrified of other more serious illnesses.
https://www.wnd.com/2014/06/health-experts-diseases-at-border-becoming-crisis/
Slowing the flow of terrorists. https://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2019/01/migrants-from-terrorist-nations-try-to-enter-u-s-via-mexico-at-record-rates-300-hike-in-bangladeshis-in-texas-alone/
The propaganda against each country is enormous, and many people (groups?) take it seriously.
The propaganda should be slowing now that the revised Smith-Mundt Act of 2012 is ending. Thousands of reporters have been recently let go, but they’ll need more journalists to handle the retractions. (job openings?).
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr5736/text
There are many reasons why they want the barrier to slow all the forms of traffic.
It’s not unusual to be held in quarantine in many countries, when outbreaks are occurring or ending. It’s only common sense to screen incoming visitors, which is usually stamped on the passport.
I imagine that even the bad guys want to secure their health and turf. I don’t know. Maybe not. But, it seems like it should be an area of common ground, especially when it only affects a certain percentage of the contraband smuggling.
Another case scenario. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/27/south-african-intelligence-officers-spread-aids-black-communities
the person I know that was making $8/day in Mexico City came in a truck packed like sardines for $1,500. these drugs also come in via trucks. the wall is more of a LDS topic than anything. you, just like Fox news keep changing the angle on why the wall is so important. we already have a wall where we need one, look for yourself on Google Earth. while cruising it notice the amount a 18 wheelers backed up at the truck crossing going each way, the number is astounding. also the amount of cars coming into the US at the crossing exceeds the amount leaving the US by several orders of magnitude. if a truck is packed with 30 illegals and one of them is contagious, then we have 30 infected illegals entering the US which blows your entire argument. just like the professional have stated, the wall is not the problem.
Very good points Local Observer.
Again I’d like to point out that treating people humanly would be a great solution to start with.
Instead of pouring in billions of dollars into concrete and steel, put it into receiving and processing facilities. People would come knowing they had a chance to go through legal procedures while getting screened for disease and get treatment etc.etc.etc.
Put more money into detecting smuggling, and that all elusive concept of attacking the demand problem. No way for employers to hire illegals, drug addiction, etc.
Make America great by making the American people great again. Put a wall up and force them to stay in their “shit hole” ?? instead of fixing the problems and helping fellow humans?? We’re better than that, aren’t we?
We could be if the people who constantly cry foul didn’t stink with self aggrandizement and hate themselves.
“Instead of pouring in billions of dollars into concrete and steel, put it into receiving and processing facilities. People would come knowing they had a chance to go through legal procedures while getting screened for disease and get treatment etc.etc.etc.
Put more money into detecting smuggling, and that all elusive concept of attacking the demand problem. No way for employers to hire illegals, drug addiction, etc.”
That’s exactly what POTUS is trying to accomplish, but they keep opposing it.
$5 billion spent one year vs over $2 billion spend per DAY is a tremendous savings. The money could be spent elsewhere, such as everyone and their brother rightfully points out.
Securing the ports and other gateways is also part of the bundle plan. POTUS wants to cover every angle. The ports would use advanced technology that constantly needs updating, replacing, fixed, powered, and safeguarded (from hacking).
POTUS even added an extra year to the DACA plan, to make sure the next president can’t pull the rug out during their first term.
We need screening, clinics, teachers, etc, at the border, not opposition.
The gate is open to all who wish to come in the proper way. The screening process will come first.
POTUS has offered to provide asylums in each country, so the people can wait out their screenings in their own countries instead of dragging their families across the dangerous deserts and waters.
The disease issue has been the number one issue since all this began. Somehow, the subject became taboo to cover, but reports still skimmed the surface. The issue never disappeared.
Where’s the black caucus that demands a wall?
Just curious if it’s just a few white people that are in “crisis” mode?
mandatory drug test for welfare recipients
And then what? The government to raise their children? Exteminate them when commit a crime? Kept them in prison.
~what about the Fifth? Self incrimination.
Lot of regurgitated bird seed in comments! LMFAO
🕯Just a note from your “not my potus”
Now Hiring: Needed Farm Laborers.
Must be American Citizens only.
Work Hours: Sun up to Sun down,maybe 1/2 hour for lunch. Must be able to lift 40 – 50 pds. above your shoulders, ability to bend and move quickly picking the crops your assigned.
You will be paid 0.45 cent a bucket/bundle so the faster you move the more money you make.
Drivers Liscense and legal proof of citizenship is required.
That shouldn’t exist as a job, should it? Yet why do you think that it does? Could it be that illegal immigration provides a work force ready to be abused? Then of course having abused them, they then learn from the mouths of those who hate that it is white US racism that did it. So now a whole lot of people in the US have been taught to hate the US. And part of that hate cycle is to point out how wonderful it is to have such workers. More are needed. What a wonderful world you create.
~i was more on the State-owned identa-fiction “Drivers” (commercial) license, “Legal”, and, “citizen-Ship”.
“When words lose their meaning, people lose their freedom.” –Confucius.
Semantic saturation.
What would addicts do if there wasn’t Mexican heroin? Use American made meth? Humboldt grown heroin?
If there weren’t folks buying it there wouldn’t be a problem. Address the age old problem of addiction, starting with the over prescription of opiod pills.
Bored humans play with themselves. It starts by the ludicrous idea that people who work, support themselves and their families are a joke. The idea that a person who becomes addicted through using drugs recreationally is suffering from a disease and that society is required to treat him as any other ill person has become current. That a person has no obligation to conduct themselves in a way that reflects that they have a duty to the society where they shelter is thought the same as being free. That expressing contempt is the intelligent thing to do. All lead to substituting drugs for all the other aspects of life these ideas shut off. First you crap all over then whine about how dirty the world is.
🕯Again you people are so misinformed. Most heroin done in the United States is China White. Usually brought in at the port in San Diego or San Francisco. That’s why west coast has what is laughingly referred to as the heroin highway and Eureka, Fortuna,Ferndale are all a hub were it gets collected then repackaged and shipped out.
Again- Not misinformed as you think
“They call it china white, but it doesn’t come from China,” Pentis explained. … “The white heroin was packed into 28 foil-wrapped bricks approximately 20 centimeters long and 10 centimeters high that had been discovered inside the trunk of a vehicle. … In 2015, close to half of the seizures carried out by US Customs and Border Protection at the national level (totaling 2.12 tons) occurred along the US-Mexican border near San Diego, California (1.04 tons). ”
https://www.insightcrime.org/news/analysis/china-white-mexico-new-heroin-threatening-united-states/
It seems as if Mexico produces a better quality at a lower price from South American poppies that the South East Asians can,
Agian you use bias outdated shit. You could never stay with the times. Or the right people.
“Address the age old problem of addiction, starting with the over prescription of opiod pills.”
~tm, you couldn’t be more correct on this. However, the white coats are Gods, are they not? Dock-tors prescribing Pharmagedon pills is most likely not viewed as corrupt as it is.
Or more like there is a difficult problem sorting out the good doctors (like save your life) do from the bad (make money in ways harmful). Unlike drug addiction which has pretty little good mixed in with the overwhelming bad to be worried about losing.
There flying packages attached to drones now,these drones have a 200 mile range so they can be sitting 50 miles in Mexico and fly up to 150 miles across our border. The wall isn’t Evan gonna slow down the smuggling of narcotics across our southern border !!! Lol!!! It’s a waste of our tax money but hey that’s what our governments good at.extorting us in every way possible and wasting the money in ways that don’t benefit us !!!!! You people need to quit thinking democrat— Republican there one in the same and neither are looking out for our best interests !!!!!
True but those who produce drugs for recreation are not anyone’s friend either.
~recreation? The mug shots on this forum don’t look like re-creation. More like a futile attempt to escape the evils we’ve allowed to infest us.
🕯Again you people are so misinformed. Most heroin done in the United States is China White. Usually brought in at the port in San Diego or San Francisco. That’s why west coast has what is laughingly referred to as the heroin highway and Eureka, Fortuna,Ferndale are all a hub were it gets collected then repackaged and shipped out.
Not misinformed as you think
“They call it china white, but it doesn’t come from China,” Pentis explained. … “The white heroin was packed into 28 foil-wrapped bricks approximately 20 centimeters long and 10 centimeters high that had been discovered inside the trunk of a vehicle. … In 2015, close to half of the seizures carried out by US Customs and Border Protection at the national level (totaling 2.12 tons) occurred along the US-Mexican border near San Diego, California (1.04 tons). ”
https://www.insightcrime.org/news/analysis/china-white-mexico-new-heroin-threatening-united-states/
It seems as if Mexico produces a better quality at a lower price from South American poppies that the South East Asians can,
🕯Thank you for politely bring that up. But what has happened since your outdated date? loc.gov ,dea.gov,atf.gov Now I know you don’t like real statist but it is the your government. I find hanging out at the loc can be really informative. It’s got a hallway like the Matrix when you use a virtual computer. The Key maker hallway. Search Engines as far as the eye can see.
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U.S. officials estimate that 90 to 94 percent of heroin consumed in the United States today comes from Mexico, which is now producing about 70 tons per year. Another four to six percent comes from Asia, principally Afghanistan, the origin of most heroin consumed elsewhere in the world. About two percent of heroin that reaches the United States comes from Colombia, and a negligible amount is made in Guatemala.
🕯Again you use out dated shit.
you watch too much Drugs, inc. just open your eyes its right in front of you, unless you live in texas.
have you ever seem the white stuff in a local bust? I haven’t.
Photo sure looks like Mexican black tar to me.
Hmm… so why did Willie bring it up?
Because you can goo anything up.
I wonder where all the Mexicans will go when the United States is Mexico ? Neo/Liberals want a third world overpopulated socialist country. Yeaahhhh!!! Everybody be poor!!!
If walls are not effective, then how come illegal Crossings dropped 96% in San Diego after they put up a wall?
And why do the majority of border control agents support building a wall?
And why has Donald Trump’s approval rating amongst Latinos gone up 19% to a whopping 50% of those polled since the shutdown?
And why is it considered a win by democrats to spend over twice the money Trump was asking for to accomplish absolutely nothing?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/report-estimates-shutdown-cost-economy-11-billion-billion/story%3fid=60677289
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/poll-donald-trump-picks-up-support-from-latinos/
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5323928
https://www.npr.org/2017/01/26/511745401/head-of-border-patrol-union-on-trumps-wall-plans
🕯If you really want all the craziness that you see posted above to stop about the drugs ,start were the problem begins. Right at home. If there was no demand for the poison to be sold here then there would be no demand and nobody sneaking it in. It solves two problems at once.
And what do you suggest we do about the drug problem? give them safe zones to shoot up their heroin, that seems to be the “liberal” ideal. Personally I think mandatory drug testing for any social benefits would be a better fix. And yes, I don’t think people that sit around drinking all day should get social benefits either…
the problem is with the data. if a conservative politician proposed that they would not get re-elected in that district. this drug problem is mainly in conservative USA. liberals are just trying to do the best they can with the money available.
One problem is many people are not sober long enough to notice theirs ideas are irrational. I think Arcata is the epitome of what happens in a liberal world. It lives and breaths on government money. It does not spend much of what it has on programs for the addicted or homeless or mentally ill while busy lecturing everyone else- who is not the recipient of piles of government money- on how they ought to take care of the problem. Arcata has a population of about 2/3rds of Eureka yet Arcata has one sometimes open night shelter and one transitional housing place while Eureka has 4 shelters, a bunch of transitional housing and a number of non profits helping in various ways.
Arcata has a problem which it diligently sees gets sent to Eureka. It’s the liberal way- sending waves of self rightousness out from behind closed gates.
pretty much the opposite of everything you stated is correct. and almost every crime in Arcata is committed by someone from Eureka or Mck/Blue lake, but mainly Eureka.
The peabrain Conservative cretin simply refuse to learn from history. How much longer can the diseased Conservative mind of the lowest moral conscience and understanding continue to destroy our Republic and endanger our citizens to serve big-money interests and corrupt personal gain?
Conservatives are the embodiment of DEATH!
You know, my emotional response is to say “death by liberal ineptitude” but it is not reasonable to drop down to the same public display of self stimulation that is the motive for sort of post immediately above. While many liberals suffer from the defect of not looking ahead or behind to judge whether their ideas are feasible, they are not all so trollish.
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/us/no-savings-found-in-florida-welfare-drug-tests.html
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I doubt whether THC’s comment was meant as a ‘money saving” idea. In fact the article mentions the idea that it is simply wrong to pay public money for the purchase of drugs. Whether it is effective at saving money or not is another question.
bingo. if you want a hand out then you cant be a drug user. stop doing drugs then you get your hand out
~remember, this is a spiritual evolution -not economic$.
~however . . . Congress to Be Arrested After Trump Announces Gold-Backed US Note?
https://beforeitsnews.com/v3/politics/2019/3057794.html
Got My fingers crossed.
mogtx we forgot one more air port that may or may not be used for dope smuggling. RUTH AIRPORT just saying .
you forgot to use your other sock puppet, just saying. but hell i’m sure there a whole lot of activity going on out at Ruth.
🕯Actually that’s not a bad call.
Wow, hot button topic.
Don’t get me wrong , heroin can pound sand. That said, 6lbs and $6k in cash confiscated, sounds like product and operating overhead for a month.
Drop in the bucket…
When the topic is anything about race, it sure brings out the crazies! Starting to be like Loco around here. Too bad, but it’s true that any post involving a Mexican or a black guy gets the wing nuts fired up.
I hope that most sane people realize that we are not as ughly as we seem in these comments, as a community. It’s just that the quacks are the loudest.
🕯Kym somebody should pay the guy that this article was about because even with the small amount of troll stupidity there was some healthy debate. Some may not think so but it’s been better than what’s going on at your former employers.
The worst drugs that come into the country comes from China. They cannot be detected by dogs and hundreds of ships come into tens of ports. Fentanyl and synthetic heroin is manufactured in China and sent to Russia, Europe and South America to be used by cartels to send to the U.S.. In 2016 the Center for Disease Control and Prevention recorded over 20,000 American deaths due to the two China made drugs. Anyone with access to the “Dark Web” can order it sent directly to their residence. And Trump’s father Putin has been rumored to allow the Chinese to send shipping containers of Fentanyl to Russia to be sent to Europe and the East Coast. It is also routed thru Japan and Korea to service the West Coast. This is more a problem of Supply and Demand. Stopping drug imports is wishful thinking. The REAL problem is American users. Why do you think there have been so many home invasions and other thefts of weed in Humboldt County. Turning a buck from users. If nobody was using there wouldn’t be suppliers. That won’t happen so we blame the drugs coming into the country. And that won’t happen with a hundred foot wall and border agents standing shoulder to shoulder. Remember Chapo was building submarines to transport drugs to us. The Coast Guard has intercepted tons of cocaine coming into Florida. And they estimated that was only 2% of the supply coming into the country. Sadly there is billions of American dollars that leave the country every year from drug sales.
Funny how on topics like these people chime in claiming to know so much about this or that. When in reality they are only spouting off what they read or heard in their chosen media. Just a bunch of armchair analysts.
So only border control officers, drug dealers and drug addicts (as if users are well informed) can comment?
You just described the Internet.