CDFW, State Water Boards Presenting at Cannabis Permitting Workshop in Trinity County Next Month

This is a press release from California Department of Fish and Wildlife:

The California Department of Fish and Wildlife (CDFW) and the State Water Resources Control Board (SWRCB) are extending outreach to the cannabis cultivating community with presentations at four permitting workshops in northern California.

The presentations are ideally suited for cannabis cultivators, consultants and anyone interested in the topic.

CDFW will address important areas such as how to begin the notification process, Lake and Streambed Alteration agreements, and limiting environmental impacts.

SWRCB will cover policy and permitting, and other important information. Computers will be available for applicants to apply for water rights and water quality permits.

Workshop attendees will have time to talk with agency staff about individual projects. In the coming months, more workshops will be announced throughout the state.

CDFW and SWRCB will present at the following venues:

Wednesday, Jan. 30
10 a.m. to 3 p.m. (presentation at 10:30 a.m.)
Sonoma Lab Works
1201 Corporate Center Parkway
Santa Rosa
For more information, please visit: www.scgalliance.com/event/cannabis-cultivation-permitting-open-house/

Wednesday, Feb. 6
5 to 7 p.m. (presentation at 5:30 p.m.)
The Foothills Event Center
400 Idaho Maryland Road
Grass Valley
For more information, please visit: www.nccannabisalliance.org/calendar/water-board-fish-wildlife-water-rights-a-get-legit-workshop-2/

Tuesday, Feb. 26
10 a.m. to 3 p.m. (presentation at 10:30 a.m.) – Free
North Coast Regional Water Quality Control Board
5550 Skyline Blvd. Suite A
Santa Rosa

Thursday, Feb. 28
10 a.m. to 3 p.m. (presentation at 10:30 a.m.) – Free
Trinity County Fairgrounds
6000 CA-3
Hayfork

In addition, the California Department of Food and Agriculture (CDFA) will be at the Feb. 26 and 28 workshops. CDFA will provide an overview of the state’s cannabis cultivation licensing program and review the primary requirements for a cannabis farming license. Staff will also be available to answer questions.

CDFW encourages cannabis cultivators to obtain all necessary state licenses and county permits, as well as implement best management practices to reduce environmental impacts. Following these recommended actions can help cultivators avoid common pitfalls that may lead to enforcement actions.

To learn more about CDFW’s role in cannabis cultivation, please visit www.wildlife.ca.gov/conservation/cannabis or email [email protected].

To learn more about SWRCB, please visit: www.waterboards.ca.gov/water_issues/programs/cannabis/.

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Central HumCo
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5 years ago

” . . .extending ”outreach” to the cannabis cultivating community.” Yeah, that’s what corporate criminals and thieves do. Too bad its not on their job description.

From Friedrich Hayek’s “The Use of Knowledge in Society,” Sowell wrote; “Perhaps the greatest achievement of market economies is in economizing on the amount of knowledge needed to produce a given economic result.” However, he also recognized “That is also their greatest political vulnerability,” which we are seeing acted out before our eyes. The public, benefiting from vast and varying voluntary marketplace exchanges without understanding them, can be lured by compliance of something for nothing, because they don’t see how it undermines those valid free market contracts, which reliably serve them.

Central HumCo
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5 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

~those who show up for the Public Theater in Santa Rosa, Grass Valley and Hayfork.

Oh wait, there’s a CA INC. Coastal Commission Public Theater in Half Moon Bay too. Amending the County of Humboldt’s blah, blah, blah, in Half Moon Bay – sounds about right. Not!

Willie Caso-Mayhem
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5 years ago

🕯Thank you Oliver for the info, forget the haters there just jealous.

Perspective
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Perspective
5 years ago

Jealous of not wanting to pay the state a fee for water and the fee only pertains to one plant species?

itsthebearj
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itsthebearj
5 years ago

All of the hipsters up there hate Trump, but he is the only politician who has ever stated the obvious: It’s unconstitutional for a state or local government demand that your water be wasted by demanding it flow out to sea, where it can merge with saline and islands of plastic bottles.

Pancho zamora
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Pancho zamora
5 years ago
Reply to  itsthebearj

U no a man by the small things.

Rule of Law not Leftists
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Rule of Law not Leftists
5 years ago
Reply to  itsthebearj

Hate science and live in ignorance, huh? Might be interested to know there are libertarians that are conservationists, like myself, who think people like you should probably not speak unless you have actual facts, because you make the rest of us look dumb, and make it impossible to have adult conversations. Water flowing to the ocean isn’t wasted. Ever heard of the water cycle? What about fishery life cycle? How about increased salinization of the ocean which creates lower oxygenation and higher pH? Do you even realize we live on a small planet with a complex interrelated ecosystem which the dominant species on this planet is really messing up? Which for your information is humans. I like nature, wildlife, the river, and hunting as well as think it should be there for future generations. Therefore protecting the planet is of utmost concern.

itsthebearj
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itsthebearj
5 years ago

ok scientology man… whatevs… what about private property? You sound like a shillbag ziocon

When the earthmaker comes back he will judge you.

Just as you have judged us.

'Merican Woman
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'Merican Woman
5 years ago
Reply to  itsthebearj

Property is theft.😁

itsthebearj
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itsthebearj
5 years ago
Reply to  'Merican Woman

and ignorance is bliss

Central HumCo
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5 years ago
Reply to  itsthebearj

Dead Harvest — Central Valley of California Water Crisis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax5A3r_z4KA&t=1s 38:06 February 2016.

Disgusting supervisors.
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Disgusting supervisors.
5 years ago

Central Humboldt hitting the nail on the head !!! It’s amazing how many people are diving in with all there $$$ to a market that was already table scraps at best!! And we can only hope that the mass majority of poorer folks who are being false propagandad,and extorted will be there at the polls come election day to serve justice to there perpetrators/molesters

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago

The market is adjusting.

I think it’s great that people will be charged with less bullshit “crimes” relating to MJane.

The market has long been flooded, sure, but the “war” on pot is half over (still gonna bust unpermitted grows). The flood was the result of too many “war profiteers”.

I think it’s awesome that consumers can buy good Jane for fair prices, with virtually no criminal risk.

Anyhow, I think those benefits outweigh the loss of truly ridiculous profit margins.

There are still margins, you just have to fire your 5 buddies, think smart and get back to work, maybe even a little schooling.

Good luck

Swine
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Swine
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

40 buc an eight is not reasonable. Even 30 and eighth is stores.. The only people to get cheaper weed are dispensaries and middle men for the outlaw world.

I like stars
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I like stars
5 years ago
Reply to  Swine

^^^

Pancho zamora
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Pancho zamora
5 years ago

Schedule 1 drugs.analog enforcement act.all physiological analogs are illegal.now meet me in small claims court.i want my money back.lean on you.,like ADA.up 30% last year.now that we have tons of car fentanyl.dont get me started about microbiological production of analogs of thc.like psylisiben,and ergot,on sugar.anythimg that you grow on overpriced realestate I can grow in a dish or beaker.try nor ketamin.sched 3 ,no analog enforcement act.it is in no way an analog of a schedule 1 drug.it the battlefield anesthetic for our next wierld war,with our coup de eta,in our oil rich banana republic,venesuela.every 3 weeks money Werth 1/2.

Disgusting supervisors.
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Disgusting supervisors.
5 years ago

But hey go get in line to be robbed !!!!!

Farce
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Farce
5 years ago

Hey Now! Your good friends are asking you to drop n so they can help you. Ha ha ha! Yes- it is a scam at this point. Maybe the huge mega-grows will make out- get to sell their farms to Monsanto. But for little people…think hard, neighbors! Before you sign up to give them your hard-earned money- which you don’t have that much of!- how will you survive when you give them all your savings? This is not the time for unicorn fantasy happy-endings blind faith…pull up and think hard! You might need those savings to transform another line of work. Best wishes to everybody but this “legalization” train is rolling and it will crush many…

Pancho zamora
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Pancho zamora
5 years ago
Reply to  Farce

So true.advertisers and thieves follow me like a tail follows a dog.

Farce
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Farce
5 years ago

They want you to apply for water rights on your own land. From springs that do not flow into blue-line creeks. YOUR water…up until this very moment. And only if you grow the legal plant cannabis!! This is a major government taking of private property rights. I’m amazed there is not a major pushback from private property advocates on this issue! …Oh, is it because they (State Water Board) separated cannabis growing from every other water use and divided property owners? Smart and evil…very evil

Ben Round
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Ben Round
5 years ago
Reply to  Farce

You got all that right Farce!!
It IS AMAZING people have just acquiesced to the WB!
Think people.
Talk with lawyers around.
Don’t just sell out your precious water rights!!

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben Round

What can you do if your concerns are valid but you want to get permitted?

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Punch a well and use that as the permitted water source.

I know people who have signed away primary water rights to comply with the water board and CDFW.

In the long run weed is worthless and water is priceless.

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

“In the long run weed is worthless and water is priceless.”

-I Absolutely agree

Pancho zamora
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Pancho zamora
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Air is still free.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
5 years ago
Reply to  Pancho zamora

Check the patent office. There’s a way to monetize everything.

Central HumCo
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5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP
A CROP OF TAX FARMERS

The modern politician’s massive economic ignorance doesn’t know enough to pass an economics principles course, much less enough to stand down and just perform their simple job description – ‘protect man’s property.’ Government by a corporation -forcing something they call ‘safety;’ of a corporation -forcing something they call ‘health;’ for a corporation’s Bottom Line, has nothing to do with either safety or health.

The corporate politicians sometimes say things with some sense (recognizing burdens from regulation). But, they have failed in their understanding of the cost (opulent paychecks, driving expenses, CalPers, Grants), and comparative advantage (protectionism); that market values are earned by benefiting others (making “the rich” pay more); property rights and the role of profits (suggested mandatory profit sharing); the market for labor (proposals to hike minimum wages); and capital (wanting greater taxation of owners of capital but calling it taking your resources for others an investment).

Pancho zamora
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Pancho zamora
5 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Crispin and the cross of lead,by avi.the intellectual gets a title.Clown. quien?yo?

Central HumCo
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5 years ago
Reply to  Pancho zamora

~ewes drink municipal and bottled water.

Mdg
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Mdg
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Brian, you have to think long term about going legal. The fact is that 1) you are putting your personal info on public record as a grower 2) the market for instate recreational Mj is very flooded 3) we live in an area that is good for growing illegally. There is no benefit for a legal business out in the hills. Everything costs more from transportation, labor, materials, agricultural land and on and on. The flat ag land which there is plenty of in CA will put us out of business in a second. Willow creek used to be a profitable place to grow peaches and other fruits. Why did that fail? Yep.
I think we need to either stay black market like we were or look into other streams of money.

I’m looking at a lot of research lately that is showing really alarming links between mental issues and pot use lately also. It’s not a done deal that it will become legal federally, not by a long shot. But if you apply for a permit it will always be public record. Just remember that!

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  Mdg

Thanks for the well stated thoughts MDG.

I do hear you. I have considered those same thoughts of costs of rural production .

For those debating what to do, the counter argument is that risk will increase for unpermitted growers; officials have more tax money to target less targets with more incentive to protect legal growing

'Merican Woman
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'Merican Woman
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben Round

The water does not “belong” to anyone. The delusion of privately owned water is incredibly painful and absurd. Do we own the air?
Humanity has utterly lost it’s way.

trapaholic
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trapaholic
5 years ago
Reply to  'Merican Woman

just cause YOU don’t own anything, doesn’t mean WE don’t own anything 🙂

The water on your land is both your’s and nature’s… the middle ground. But it ain’t owned by people in Beverly Hills who want to water their lawn anymore than the folks who own land up here.

Disgusting supervisors.
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Disgusting supervisors.
5 years ago

Theives, theives, and more theives!!!!!!

'Merican Woman
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'Merican Woman
5 years ago

We spell that THIEVES😊

Disgusting supervisors.
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Disgusting supervisors.
5 years ago

Perspective you are absolutely wrong!!! Evan if you don’t partake in your 6 measly plants that stupidvisor fennel weasely had Sacramento pass as the state maxamum(without a permit) you still have to register for domestic use(drink,shower, household use)and pay a annual fee!!! And by registering you are sighning your riperian rights away.and you’re on a 3 year review basis so they can decide 3 year’s from now you can no longer use your own fucking water !!!!!!!!

Central HumCo
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5 years ago

Perspective is on the same page.

Pancho zamora
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Pancho zamora
5 years ago

Ca state law,illegal to refuse water to poor.

Willie caos- mayhem
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5 years ago

🕯I see what’s going on now it’s all those let’s say unpermitted grows you guys have are the reasons why about four maybe five are s🤬!tting.

Disgusting supervisors.
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Disgusting supervisors.
5 years ago

No Willie caos it could have something to do with being stripped of rights and freedoms left and right constantly !!! Being charged more and more taxes,fees fines,and permit fees until land of the free and home of the brave isn’t land of the free anymore !!!! It’s about resisting a new form of slavery one that isn’t biased of race,gender, religion or Creed.Its as it always has been about milking all the $$$$$$$ they can at the cost of our freedoms and pursuit of happiness

Willie caos- mayhem
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5 years ago

🕯Well who put these people in charge of these procedures? Where they elected in by the people? Or appointed by a Board of Supervisors to dish out and monitor the permit programs?

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
5 years ago

Unelected bureaucrats making extra-legislative rules.

Homesteader
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Homesteader
5 years ago

It’s not just cannabis that the Waterboard and CDFW are going after now. It’s every single farmer, rancher, grape grower, homesteader and rural resident. They have criminalized rural living. Anyone who is not on city water is supposed to sign up for this unconstitutional program and register and pay fees on every single water source the have. We no longer own our own water, the state owns it and they can use it as they see fit. If you don’t comply, they will fine you tens of thousands of dollars a day and take your land. It is outright extortion!

They’ve already used this program to seize a property in our watershed. We recently got passed along a bill from the WB from a property in Willits that had a minor fuels spill (under 300 gallons). They are being fined 14 million dollars because the WB uses ‘creative’, compound accounting to turn a 3 month violation period into 8 years! These poor folks already spent their entire savings – 70k – to clean up the spill out of pocket, and now the water agencies are going to take their property. It’s nothing but a state-sponsored land grab!

The WB and CDFW are some of the most corrupt and downright evil agencies to every exist in the state of California. They are totally out of control, and have no accountability for their actions.

Y Knot?
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Y Knot?
5 years ago
Reply to  Homesteader

Private Property has been under attack for the last two decades.

Rule of law means nothing when it’s ignored and you’re forced to pay on something you own.

Pushing everyone into cities so corporate farming rations and digital currency can run the show definitely appears to be the agenda, line by line of the conspiracy theorist manifesto.

Heck, high altitude aerosol injections are open business as usual….

Worshipping a golden pit bull won’t be saving you, better learn how to scramble or dig in and see where it goes.

Good Luck!

Mdg
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Mdg
5 years ago
Reply to  Homesteader

Homesteader- I agree that the wayerboqrd business is bullshit- we should be able to use our water without an annual report and fee and computer time and all that bs. But the reality is, no weed= no need for registering. It’s really weed related. I’m curious how your neighbor lost his property? Care to elaborate? I’m all for hating on the waterboard but I like the discussion to be factual and not emotional.

Homesteader
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Homesteader
5 years ago
Reply to  Mdg

MDG it’s not just cannabis/weed related. It is EVERY property not on city water now. Check the new regs – they now require ANYONE and EVERYONE who uses water in the State of California to register and pay fees and report. Cannabis properties were just the beginning, now they are going after everyone.

The property that was seized in our watershed was a cannabis property. The WB used their ‘creative’ accounting to impose $900,000 worth of fines on a property worth half that. All the fines were related to using water without registering so they were breaking the new law but that type of penalty is nuts. The property in Willits that is also now likely to be seized was not a cannabis property and they were not growing.
They have also gone after several properties in our neighborhood for growing wine grapes, threatening to take away water rights or fine the vineyard owners hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Central HumCo
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5 years ago
Reply to  Homesteader

It appears that a group of “U.S. Citizens” are busily trying to “register” our “lands” for us.

That is not going to work for a number of reasons:

When you register anything, you are giving away your ownership interest in it.

Record everything. Register nothing.

The ownership of All land and soil in this country has already been recorded. It all belongs to the American States and People.

The Sovereign Patent Owner of all land and soil in this country is The United States of America — the actual unincorporated version.

And nobody can give away our land and soil by registering it with any foreign (corporation) government, now or ever in any venue of the law.

Why?

Because even in the commercial realm our paperwork is long cured and The United States of America and each one of the States holds the perfected agricultural Lien on all land and soil in this country.

All those “U.S. Persons” who just woke up and who are rushing to register and thereby give away our land and soil can save themselves the trouble.

We are first in line and first in time and we hold the Sovereign Patent.

So let’s have enough of that nonsense and those false claims.

Such “U.S. Persons” would have to have a legitimate interest, standing, and authority as owners of our land and soil before they could give it away by registering it “for” us— and they don’t meet any of those requirements.

By choosing to act in the capacity of “U.S. Citizens” they gave up their birthright as Americans.

The only way they have anything to say about our land and soil is if they officially change their political status and join State Jural Assemblies. All States are now up and running with their Jural Assemblies.

And they cannot claim to act “for” us –number one, because they have no authority to do so, and number two, because we have already taken the bull by the horns and attended to these matters for ourselves.

So– both the Legal and Lawful owner of the land and soil of this country is The United States of America – an unincorporated Federation of unincorporated member States.

All false “titles” issued by the British Territorial United States and the Municipal United States in our purported “absence” need to be thrown in the dust bin of history and recognized for what they are and always were— false claims in Commerce made by persons having no ownership interest and no standing to make such claims or issue such titles.

All “State Trusts” are already collapsed by the return of the “Presumed Donors” and our action re-issuing and updating our Sovereign Patent in 2015 and all subsequent Notice, Reclamation and Lien Process is of public record.

Let this be a lesson to the ignorant— whenever some entity gives you the opportunity to “register” anything– walk on by at a dog trot wearing a horrible fixed grin.

You have no reason to register anything– not your name, not your land, not the bogus titles issued by “the” UNITED STATES, none of it.

You are not to register anything ever again.

Record everything. Register nothing.

Why? Repeat after me:

Anytime you register anything you are giving up your ownership interest in it.

Period.

So don’t register your name, your children, your cars, your land, or anything else that you wish to keep and have control of.

Just say “No” to the Numbnutz and demand to see their authority to demand that you give up your ownership interest in your land and soil.

Tell these freebooters and criminals to shove off !!

Mdg
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Mdg
5 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

You are probably the type that would roll up his window and refuse to speak to a police officer when you get pulled over…Good luck with all your ill-informed rambling… it might make you feel good but it’s not worth a damn in the real world.

I don’t like the water board any more than anyone else, believe me. I spend a lot of time figuring out how to register this spring or that spring. I really didn’t want to go down that route but sometimes it’s less trouble if you do it. I think the correct way to handle this water board problem is a court case, challenging their right to force us to register our water use on our own large acreage rural property.

The amount of time you spend writing your manifestos you could be doing something useful perhaps.

Central HumCo
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5 years ago
Reply to  Mdg

. . . it behooves us to remember, that men can never escape being governed. Either they must govern themselves or they must submit to being governed by others. If from lawlessness or fickleness, from folly or self-indulgence, they refuse to govern themselves, then most assuredly in the end they will have to be governed from the outside. –Theodore Roosevelt: Jamestown Exposition April 26, 1907

It behooves us to govern ourselves, otherwise those that would and do assume to govern us, and control us, will do so, and will do so ultimately, with the wrath and vengeance of Kahn.

It boils down to this: You can be governed or you can self-govern. That is the basic choice for us all.

Jack Nicholson
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Jack Nicholson
5 years ago
Reply to  Homesteader

It’s Chinatown, jake.

tech
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tech
5 years ago
Reply to  Homesteader

You all should read and share this article from Briscoe Law. Goes to show how vindictive the Water Board is. It also has implications across the state, including projects up here that the WB says “requires” 401/404s for culvert replacements, which is absolutely bullshit and untrue, yet they want you to believe they are required. They are doing this to give themselves a job and make sure they stay busy. That and make sure they have some kind of hook in private businesses and landowners.

Honestly, Kym should put this court case front page for everyone to see. It is that imporatant for people to read and understand what/who they are dealing with when you approach CDFW/WB.

https://briscoelaw.net/court-limits-authority-of-water-board-and-bcdc/

Central HumCo
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5 years ago
Reply to  tech

~thank you for this tech.

Terrorism – A System of Government that seeks to rule by intimidation. Funk and Wagnall’s New Practical Standard Dictionary (1946).

Color of law The appearance or semblance, without the substance, of legal right. Misuse of power, possessed by virtue of State law and made possible only because wrongdoer is clothed with authority of the State, is action taken under “Color of law.” Atkins v. Lanning, D.C.Okl., 415 F. Supp. 186, 188.

shak
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shak
5 years ago
Reply to  tech

Wow! Great find Tech!

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
5 years ago
Reply to  tech

Great read. Glad to see a judge trying to reign in the expanding tyranny of the Bureacracies, and the water board specifically.

Disgusting supervisors.
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Disgusting supervisors.
5 years ago

It’s time too vote out EVERY northern California representative that’s currently in office regardless of whether there Republican or democrat.neither party is for the people and there bolth for the rich(upper crust). It’s time to think outside of the box come voting day !!!!!!

shak
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shak
5 years ago

Down with Corporate Cronyism! (now known as “the law”).
Bring back genuine Capitalism! (now known as blackmarket).

The Emerald Triangle and the Red Triangle may have more in common than we realize.

Pretty soon the free market capitalists (rebels) will be forced to buy bottled water (WW corporate cronyism) for their rebel plants. The corporate cronyism monopoly grows larger & stronger while the free market capitalist rebels protest. The rebels can only protest in words but not in practice. Catch 22? Eventually, even their words will have to be withheld in order for them to survive. (threats, censorship, bullying, arrests, etc)

Great posts everyone, you’ve brought hope to my heart.

added: Speaking of bottled water, why is bottled water always the highlighted mystery of the day? The Fiji girl at the awards. The Fiji water bottle POTUS held in a strange awkward way as he took a small sip during a speech. The water bottle that POTUS & Pence took off the table & put on the floor during a meeting, and so on and so on.
Strange? Clues? Just another day in the land of oz?
Time to DuckDuckGo search ‘watch the water’? Because watching the water seems to be something important to be doing.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
5 years ago
Reply to  shak

Startpage is another good search engine as well.

Been a while, shak.

Listened to this interview a few days ago, and wanted to share.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lkQUry7R6HE

His perspective on the “Shame consciousness” blew me away.

When can we ever have too much information? Considering most of the information available is meant to reshape our thought process and change our behavior.

Poor Farmer
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Poor Farmer
5 years ago

Does anybody believe that the State Water Board will disband their efforts to control your own water use with cannabis as the reason. Next will you need a permit to grow your own vegy’s because the water you use is our water, not yours. And if you pay the State a lot of money and you are political correct we will give you permission to use just so much water. You control water you control human activity.

LARS
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LARS
5 years ago

A permit for cannabis today will very soon be a permission to grow vegy’s tomorrow

shak
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shak
5 years ago
Reply to  LARS

You’re spot on. They confessed that in one of their meetings in Laytonville during the great should/not debate before it hit the ballot.
The track and trace in place now, is also geared towards homegrown food.
https://www.foodsafetymagazine.com/signature-series/track-and-trace-a-real-time-technology-solution-for-todays-food-safety-challenges1/

itsthebearj
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itsthebearj
5 years ago
Reply to  shak

they didn’t even try that in Nazi Germany or the USSR… dayum, bartering is out now?

Love to all u bros and wild women of the west!

Homesteader
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Homesteader
5 years ago
Reply to  LARS

LARS – It already is. Domestic Use and Small Irrigation permits and registrations for ponds and livestock are now required for every property. Both include a permit application fee, a yearly fee and reporting. You literally cannot legally use your water on your own land to drink or grow a vegetable garden without permission and fees to the state now.

shak
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shak
5 years ago
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Listener
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Listener
5 years ago

I wonder what form to fill out to go fracking with radiation in the water and harm the residents?

Central HumCo
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5 years ago
Reply to  Listener

~don’t ask the clueless Water Board. Two or three years ago when Long Beach was considering a ‘death to the aquatic life’ sewer system, at the public meeting someone brought up the 25 fracking wells off the coast for the past 30-40 years – and everyone on the bored Board drew a blank. Oh wait – that was the irrelevant Coastal Commission. Six-to-one, half-a-dozen the other.

That meeting is on video out there in cyberspace.

trapaholic
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trapaholic
5 years ago
Reply to  Listener

I was thinking the same thing… fracking good hippies bad…apparently

Small Fry
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Small Fry
5 years ago

It’s true.. as far as I have read on the Water Hoarders websites.. every property needs a domestic registration… even if you are growing Vegitables or just homesteading.. A domestic Permit is still $350 a year.. The small comercial registration and the cannabis water permit are $750 a year.. What is the average water bill a year in town? Probably close to the Water Boarders fee..
Seriously though, these regulations are excessive, and completely over kill.. However, I would say it is also true that SoHum is responsible for gravely injuring the EEL River..
I do not believe the WB program is a healthy way to deal with it.. but, honestly something had to be done. What would be some other solutions to help our Ailing river? How do we keep lively hoods and our rivers healthy? I feel like the county is just as guilty. In my opinion, grow should have never been approved over 10,000 sq ft… that way, the wealth could have been distributed further, instead of just a handful of mass production farms.. This is not the place for 20’000 plus gardens.. it just isn’t.. Maybe if a farm is on grid, or pave road with natural flats and 200’ft from a fish bearing stream.. Maybe.. but.. I am not against some regulations to protect the common good.. But where is that line between protection and corruption?
I just watched a very good movie on NetFlix called FreeState.. about a group of Black and White people who came together to battle the southern confederats.. Any way near the end.. after the Civil war was over.. the Southren states enacted laws like ‘Apprenticeships’ that basically were a clever wording for slavery…. I feel like the current cannabis ordinances are similar.. They call it ‘Legal’ but really it is just a clever transfer of power, and more draconian land grabs… None of thier regulations are prosperous for small businesses, and they know this.. In San Diego, they just raided a Legal ‘Farmers Market’ that had permits and everything because some of the vendors were not 100% compliant.. Any way, I am ranting. I am really angry with the water board and this grab for our Water rights..
Oh.. and by the way.. If your water source does not leave your property.. or enters into a creek that you have a riparian right, you do not have to register, or pay them yearly.. You do have to prove that though, and that might not exempt you from having to store your water for an entire season.. JFYI..

Central HumCo
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5 years ago

~ i have three words for the incompetent State Water Board – Orville Dam Collapse.

Central HumCo
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5 years ago

Kym,

I was just reading along in your “Happy 50th Birthday, Marijuana Growers of Humboldt” link, and came to:

Crawford (aged 28 at the time) was arrested Friday, Sept. 29th, 1960 by Deputy Gene Cox who later became Sheriff (and was slain in a high profile shooting that rocked the county.) The “high profile shooting” is a defunct link. With the recent scrubbing of the www it can be a challenge to retrieve a link from just last year.

Is there a functioning “high profile shooting” link that you know of?

Kym Kemp
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5 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

It looks the Times Standard has moved that story. The best I could find from them was this: https://www.times-standard.com/2007/11/28/sheriff-cox-slaying-the-story-from-25-years-ago/

You could also check out this on my site: https://kymkemp.com/2017/11/28/remembering-sheriff-gene-cox-gunned-down-while-trying-to-help/

Central HumCo
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5 years ago

Thank you much Kym. I’ll post my question(s) on the correct thread next time.

Chatty Cathy
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Chatty Cathy
5 years ago

Permitted or unpermitted, the only difference between the criminals you deal with are the clothes.
I’ll keep my money, water and my land, I have already paid them man

Central HumCo
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5 years ago
Reply to  Chatty Cathy

~roger that. Our rights were paid for long ago, bazillions of young soldiers gave their life. It’s time we pay our respects to those who have gone before us – in liberty we Stand!

The U.S. Inc., is in Big Kahunie debt – to We, the People.

trapaholic
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trapaholic
5 years ago

Right… let’s do the State of Jefferson thing… Go back to gold and silver… If they want your produce, make them pay in gold.

LARS
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LARS
5 years ago

What I’m trying to understand is how did our public servants who are suppose to protect our rights guaranteed in the Calif State Constitution are now being our masters. It’s not suppose to work like this, where we have to beg for permission from our servants, pay way to much money to get the privilege to do what we use to have a right to do in the first place. The government gets their authority from the individual consent of its citizens. How can the county have more authority than what we have granted them via a valid contract. Lawfully they can’t!!
I am the beneficiary and administrator of my life and property and family, why should we/us give up that right to gain a few privileges, register everything, pay buchu money and hope we don’t challenge their authority. You see the State is assuming that they are the benefactors of your life property and everything you do and the corporate judge is the administrator of you life, property etc. because you do not challenge their assumption that you are that fictional character strawman/corporation that they use on you. I never signed nor my parents signed a contract that created our fictional all capital name that looks like my name BUT the name I wasn’t born with.—IT IS A FRAUD!!!!!!! The government created your corporate name so they can deal with you in a corporate court. Challenge their assumption in court and some sparks are sure to fly. Remember who you are!! You are the benefactor and administrator of your own life unless you signed away that right via a contract. Everything in America is by contract. A contract is invalid if its done with coercion, intimidation, FRAUD, and without FULL DISCLOSURE.

Central HumCo
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5 years ago
Reply to  LARS

You are correct in all that you say LARS. It’s the ones sitting on the fence of the plantation w/their finger up their nose – comfortably numb – wrapped in a 4-colored flag, celebrating the 4th of July. When 20,000 booted up and rode thru Atlanta, back in the day, nary a city dweller barely blinked. It won’t be any different today – Same as it ever was. Some will watch it happen. Some will make it happen. Some will wonder what happened? Three to five percent throughout history always drag the naysayers, kicking and screaming ”libs, conserves, demon-rats, repubs, neo-this or that, socialism, communism, fascism, racism, I want my Codes” !! Too bad they just don’t pick up a copy of the Constitution (pre 1871) -preferably State (1849)- and a dictionary would be of great help. The law of the land hasn’t changed.

Yes, it’s fraud. ALL OF IT. Run by a criminal syndicate.

It’s easier to burn the heretic than question authority. -also boring, boring, boring.

We need five to step up to the plate. What about you? Maybe?

Central HumCo
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5 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

~oh i’m so glad to back-up to this thread, for correction. My number of 20,000 was the population of Georgia -not the 800 Red Coats. Sorry for the error.

A few years ago, a wise young man said that only 2-3% of the People (that’s you and me with white hats) would be involved and the PTW (black hats) were only about 0.5% of the population. The remaining 97% would not do anything. This is close to the Revolutionary War statistics where approximately 800 Red Coats marched through Georgia unopposed. Georgia had a population of about 20K at the time.

'Merican Woman
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'Merican Woman
5 years ago

Nature bats last folks, and we are at the bottom of the ninth, the bases are loaded and there are two outs. Karma is a motherfucker

timmay
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timmay
5 years ago
Reply to  'Merican Woman

you probably don;t have a high school education.

Central HumCo
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5 years ago

bboy,

~logic before authority makes sense. However, it’s not to be found on The County’s website(s).

“That ain’t no idle threat!” Music to my ears. Freemen do not pay for justice. I think there’s some $ asked for when filling out an application for an elected position. DO Not fall for this. I’ve filed five litigations at The County’s court file clerk’s desk and didn’t give ’em a dime.

On the other hand, elections are down the road. We’re more like in need of a quicker remedy. Four more to step up to the plate . . .

Sam
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Sam
5 years ago

So helpful the so-called government can be When they themselves are part of the game..