Grape Fire Now Estimated to Be 230 Acres and Only 10% Contained

Press release from the Shasta Trinity National Forest:

The Six Rivers and the Shasta-Trinity National Forests continue to work together to safely suppress the Grape fire. As a result of more accurate mapping, the Grape fire is presently estimated to be 234 acres and is 10 percent contained. Changes in acreage will occur as more opportunity presents itself for the fire’s edge to be more accurately surveyed.
map Grape Fire apr 27, 2018
The weather forecast shows that an upper level low pressure system will track across southern Oregon and northwest California bringing showers and isolated thunderstorms to the area and substantially cooler weather through Sunday. A high pressure system will return with drier and milder weather next week.

Top priorities continue to be firefighter and public safety, protecting private property, water systems, Pacific Gas and Electric (PG&E) transmission lines and natural forest stands. Fuels across both forests are drying out sooner than expected which has led to an increase fire behavior for this time of year.

Fire engines and personnel continue to access County Roads 301 and 311, locally known as Hyampom Road and South Fork Road, to access the fire. For your own safety and the safety of the firefighters, all visitors are being advised to avoid the immediate area.

For updated information regarding this fire, please call (530) 628-0039 or visit the InciWeb Grape Fire information website: https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/5761/

Date/Time Reported: April 24, 2018 4:59 p.m.
Acres Burned: 234
Cause: Under Investigation
Percent Contained: 10%
Area Closures: none
Evacuations: none
Health Advisories: none
    Resources
    Crews:  6
    Engines: 11
    Water Tenders:  2 
    Dozers:  2
    Helicopter: 1 
    Fallers: 3 teams
   Total Resources Assigned: 218
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Dan Fuller
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Dan Fuller
5 years ago

Once again the Feds step on it, letting a “Controlled Burn” escape their grasp… AGAIN!!!

Billbo
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Billbo
5 years ago
Reply to  Dan Fuller

This low intensity burning is restoring that land and giving firefighters some warmup/training. That’s 230 acres so far that are likely to be spared if (when) a late season fire burns through. It’s also giving us a great opportunity to study the effects that early season fires have on native species. Dan, even if this was an escaped prescribed burn….bonus acres.

Treebones
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Treebones
5 years ago
Reply to  Billbo

Mushroom cloud equals low intensity burning? This was a project to rehab a previous high intensity fire with 14 years of growth to deal with. Flame lengths isn’t a huge concern because it’s all ladder fuels with few bigger trees to climb into. To continue to burn the regrowth, keeping it in early seral stage isn’t good for any forest rehab project.

And “bonus acres”? Just shows your ignorance of what this project has been trying to achieve.

Billbo
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Billbo
5 years ago
Reply to  Treebones

I’ve been working on this project since last summer so I’m familiar with what it was trying to achieve. When all’s said and done, I’m confident this will be overall beneficial.

Locally located
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Locally located
5 years ago
Reply to  Treebones

You are correct, Tree bones. Public perception will hurt this one. And I think Bilbo is correct, too. However, I am still extremely disappointed by this outcome. The 2004 Sims Fire was a tough piece of ground to try to restore in 2017, and the plan developed was the best it could be with the limitations of funding, staffing and vegetative fuel load and arrangement.

If ground that has high severity wildfire is not restored within the first 1-3 yrs post fire, you might as well walk away and wait for the next catastrophic event to do the site prep for you. The cost is too prohibitive, especially since herbicide use is not allowed here like it is in other national forests in the state.

Please take a look at all the dangerous standing snags left behind. That was a huge obstacle. The public needs to view salvage logging as SITE PREP for HIGH severity wildfire. Get some value today from future dangerous snags, clean up the fuel mess, and plant tree species mix with climate change in mind. Take a light hand with Low or Moderate- those areas are generally ok.

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago

How do I get a job in these forest cleanup/management operations w/o having to be a red tape FD volunteer?

Sam
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Sam
5 years ago
Reply to  Billbo

You don’t have to breathe in the smoke there should be a class-action lawsuit over this and many others

timmay
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timmay
5 years ago
Reply to  Billbo

Yeah friggin great… Feds burning down our lands, timber, and homes… Awesome! NOT

Hmmmmm!
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Hmmmmm!
5 years ago

Doesn’t the very long history of fire suppression that we’ve had cause the fuels to build up to such an extent that it’s almost impossible to keep fires from happening, or spreading, as we have seen so much in the last few years?

I wonder what strategies are in place to keep that from happening? Control burns, of course would be one. But, man, do we have a lot of catching up to do to get to the balance that Nature would have provided, had it been allowed to. Until then, I think we will have a lot of bad fire years in which the accumulated fuels will continue to make incredible fire storms. I’m glad this one is happening at this time of year, with this wet weather.

Mobius Moggie
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Mobius Moggie
5 years ago

Come on, rain!

Sam
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Sam
5 years ago

Totally bring manipulated this is another part of it go to hell six rivers national forest that’s my opinion and I have to live in a shit hole that they’ve created. Feel free to delete the comment I know free-speech is not for everyone anymore..

Hmmmmm!
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Hmmmmm!
5 years ago
Reply to  Sam

Free speech is not for privately-owned spaces, such as this comment board.

And what are you even talking about?
Actually, never mind. I think you are raving.

Sam
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Sam
5 years ago

Thank the good Lord for the weather sure has changed for the better I’m sure it’s put a damper on Six Rivers National Forest plan lol

Mike
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Mike
5 years ago

Do something actually worthwhile and burn some more, it’s not even a drop in the bucket

timmay
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timmay
5 years ago

I think the plan all along for the forest is to let it all burn down rather than letting private land owners sell their timber… Letting it all burn down is soooo enviro-friendly and crunchy according fish and (running) game… pencil pushers just hate the locals and our resources! RED TAPE city… let em log it. This isn’t a friggin fishery, it’s private timberland owned by good old fashioned murrikans… americana… why they want it burned. They want you to move into a 500 square foot apartment for $2000/month so you can make the new $1000 Iphone for $7/hour. And don’t worry, they have plans to build suicide nets just in case. Make no mistake, the agenda is to force us out of the hills and into their techno-corporate fascist TRON system.

Sam
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Sam
5 years ago
Reply to  timmay

Agenda 21 is no joke and In my opinion what we witnessed at Lake Oroville was a travesty and not an accident . They wanted to use Lake Oroville as a Catalyst for this change in food security Jerry Brown is working against the best interest of Californians My guess is he is not a man of free will …..

timmay
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timmay
5 years ago

Tyranny…. Soooooo liberal.

When will liberals wake up and become “libertarian liberals” who are into freedom and not fascist totalitarianism? Civil libertarians, stand up!

The environment is a huge problem, but burning it all down in the name of technological advancement and agenda 21 sucks, is not hippy or chill, and is not about helping people or their civil liberties…

Anyway, I’m ranting but the politics of local control, freedom, and the right to survive are being overlooked in the name of central planning, greed, technology elite, and feudalism on the left (and I’m a friggin second gen hippy!)

Hmmmmm!
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Hmmmmm!
5 years ago
Reply to  timmay

Where can I get a tinfoil hat?

timmay
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timmay
5 years ago
Reply to  Hmmmmm!

Well, first, you may want to pull your head out of your you know what! But I still love you!

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  timmay

To Sam, Nines, and Timmay:

If you have no proof of your claims please realize that you literally sound crazy. Your like Colin Powell telling Congress where the WMDS in Iraq are, except there weren’t any.

Agenda 21, like chemtrails, is a fear based terminology that is eating you up inside out.

The people who spread that information to you rely on your trust and not on your research and critical-thinking abilities.

Now a 200 acre fire (really effin small) that was started by forest management gone awry is an excuse for you to sum up your fears regarding agenda 21.

It’s sad. I hope you can leave the fear-dome sooner than later.

Tyranny does exist. It relies on mis, and disinformation to keep the good people busy and distracted from the clear truths in front of them.

Good luck. And please, don’t respond with, “this fire was set by Hillary”.

nines
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5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

I’m not talking about who set it. I’m talking about the people who purposely let the fires burn. I’ve been ON this wildfire thing for years. I just dealt with the Chetco Fire being tended from a hundred miles away to under ten miles from my house.

I’ve talked to CalFire people and local fire departments.

The feds are PURPOSELY letting these fires burn huge tracts of our home, Brian. Yes, good to get rid of fuels, but NOT good to let the slopes be washed into the watercourses and roads every winter. Not good for fish and wildlife and humans. There are other ways to mitigate fuels. They cost a lot of money. No problem getting those billions for turning Middle Easterners to pink mist, but big problem getting public officials to FIGHT for the funding.

You’re sad if you think that just standing back and feigning solid citizenship will solve things. Here, have another box store. What about a drive-thru or ten more? Cell towers. More of those. Don’t worry about the salmon. We’ve got farms. Don’t worry about that twisty road, we’ll straighten it so the trucks can come suck up the oil drilled offshore. Yeah, let’s turn the most beautiful place on earth into Road Warrior so we can have a few more billionaires and a lot less happy and decent neighbors.

timmay
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timmay
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

@ Hmmmm…. Wake up and smell the reality… It’s all in the white papers. Google “agenda 21”

Or, since you are probably too lazy to think for yourself… PROOF!

https://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/

nines
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5 years ago

The feds are definitely purposely burning down our timberlands, our forests, they do NOT “fight” these fires. They tend them. They are making monsters out of heroes, and scorched earth of our habitat. ON PURPOSE.

A logging crew could have run up there and had that thing out in a day, but, oh, that’s right, WHAT logging crew? This action isn’t any healthier for the ecosystem than the despicable toxins and trash dumps being hewn out of the timberlands for trespass grows.

I’m here at my desk blessing the rain and hoping it’s putting out the Grape Fire… and flooding the feds’ offices… and they better NOT be calling this the “Grape” Fire because they want to plant grapes there.

timmay
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timmay
5 years ago
Reply to  nines

Grapes of (anti-private property) Wrath…

Logging it out would be WAAAAY better than “controlled burns” which DUMP HUGE CO2 into the air…

It’s like putting a billion cars on the road all at once…

How bout letting the nice local folks cut some of THEIR OWN trees without all of the red tape?

Is your house made of wood? DO you want people starving and homeless?

God Bless everyone reading this!

tm
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tm
5 years ago

Decades of unsustainable land use practices by corporations and individuals are a big contributing factor to these catastrophic fires. There isn’t one component you can point at and say “aha, it’s your fault!” Climate change leading to warmer drier environment, overpumping of groundwater is a huge issue changing the moisture content of soils and vegetation , overgrowth and lack of brush clearing in clear cuts all contribute to increased fire growth and intensity. These fires are occurring across the country on a regular basis, look at the fires in Oklahoma and Colorado in March and April. It’s critical to look at the factual reasons for these fires that can hopefully be addressed by all of us, and not play the blame game always pointing fingers at someone else.

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  tm

Well said.

Rationality: the dissappearing ingredient to good conversation.

timmay
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timmay
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

More like decades of moronic anti-private property greedy central planners stealing everything and running up huge unsustainable debts that will take the land our forefathers fought so desperately to keep… Pray folks, pray…. (whether to Jah, Buddha, or Jesus I don’t care!)

timmay
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timmay
5 years ago
Reply to  tm

https://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/the-way-we-see-itour-blog

TM: You are either full of it (and don’t know it?) or are working for the darkside.