Fish and Wildlife Vehicles Headed Up Salmon Creek

Department of Fish and Wildlife vehicles

Department of Fish and Wildlife vehicles [Photo by Norma Martin]

Just before 8:30 a.m., several  vehicles–at least one Humboldt County Sheriff vehicle and one Department of Fish and Wildlife truck (according to two reports)–headed up Salmon Creek Road west of Miranda. The vehicles stopped at a pullout near Thomas Road and the occupants walked up Salmon Creek Road to the nearby bridge. They then walked off the road towards the Creek.

UPDATE 9:12 a.m.: Norma Martin, a local resident, tells us there is one green Fish and Wildlife vehicle, one dark SUV Fish and wildlife and two white unmarked cars. Martin said her husband spoke to the Fish and Wildlife folks who were walking south along the creek and they said they were just in the area to check the channel and depth of the creek.

 

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  • Hopefully they are busting people other that natives of Humboldt co.you all know who i mean .im happy to see fish and wildlife is doing work our lame sheriff dept is not .to bad it is not a meth lab .wishfull thinking .good mourning kym .your site is the first thing I look at everyday thank you kym for all you do for our community.

    • Rodger that! Hey Kym, has there been any updates on the Whitethorn road A Fish & Wildlife visit? Thank you for your reports.

      • Yeah deff what’s up w that ?

      • No answers? Im hoping they will be held responsible for the damages they have caused to our streams. These greed rushers need to be regulated & kept an eye on. I notice as soon as the heat leaves they just go right back to doing what they were doing! Invasive parasites!

    • I hope they don’t exempt the local water hogs and fish killers, too. Born local doesn’t mean you get to trash a watershed. Second gen marijuana industrialists are what’s ruining my neighborhood.

  • Lets hope they remind the messy ones to keep their junk and shit piles away from waterways. Not sure but um I heard ironically salmon,creek hasnt had salmon in decades.
    Pucker up your sphincters, here they come!

    • Have heard there are salmon in Salmon Creek. But if not…..
      Does the Eel have eel?
      Do the Garbers live in Garberville?
      Are the Meyers in Myers Flat?
      Are there many redwoods in Redwood valley?
      Does Lolita still live in Loleta?
      😉

    • I was curious if there are any salmon in Salmon Creek? Does anyone know?

        • Life time local

          How do you know Kim?
          I’ve lived here my whole life…I believe you have too…. Often in local creeks and rivers there are a few of a struggling species where the general public never sites them and correctly identify them. What makes you believe there are no salmon in salmon creek?

          • There may be a few stragglers but my understanding is that when Salmon counts were done in 2013, 2014 and 2015 there were no signs of steelhead or salmon.

            • As far as Salmon Creek goes, the spawning Kings I saw were in October-Early November of 2012.
              There is a 150 yard stretch of the creek at my place where there 100’s spawning Kings.The spawning grounds were perfect, with small gravel for the redds and little current.
              I mentioned then, that this was probably the last year we would spawning Kings.
              Major excavations were kicking into high gear and you could see the effect on the creek.
              Now the “perfect” spawning ground is filled in with fine silt, which will smother the eggs.
              It now takes 5-10 days longer after a storm for the creek to clear, same thing for the S. Fork.
              I have kept records for years on the flows in the river so I would know when and where to fish. It now takes much longer for the creeks and rivers to clear. Now, it takes so long to clear, you only have 1/4 the days to fish in perfect flows.
              Now when you float the S.Fork, it is like you are floating a entirely different river than 5-7 years ago.
              For the last 4 years, I have acted as a guide for the UCD fisheries dept.
              The final refuge for spawning Kings on the S.Fork is from the Hermitage to Branscomb.Not nearly as much damage has occurred there… yet.
              From 2004-12, I averaged between 2-300 Kings and Steelhead caught a year. From 2013 on, I have averaged fish.
              I used to fish for lamprey in the 70’s on the S.Fork.We caught all we wanted, the best place was Phillipsville beach. We fished at night with lanterns on a pole and used eel hooks made in S.Forks metal shop. You don’t actually hook the lamprey, you get the lamprey in the bend of the hook and sling them onto the beach.
              This is the last King I caught 12-12-2012, 30lbs.
              Normally, we don’t take these fish out of water, but this one broke my rod and was wrapped up in braid,so I no choice.

              • No tight lines to you

                Ain’t a reason in the world to use a boga grip on an Eel River King.
                That picture makes me want to puke.

              • Thanks a lot for all your info. It takes a lot of water to provide for roughly 300 households. Those springs all used to go into Salmon Creek.

            • They aren’t so easy to spot, they hide under rock ledges and protective pockets.i watched several large fish make there way up the creek last year,the fish and game might not find em walking but there’s still lots that spawn there

        • Thanks very much for your reply. I hope you’re wrong but you would know.

      • Lost Croat Outburst

        Used to be a big run, by all accounts, in the much smaller Salmon Creek near CR. Part of the Wildlife Refuge near the mouth. Attempts have been made to revive the run, don’t how it went.

  • Huh!hopefully they’ll catch all those water suckers!

  • Stay safe Humco

  • I live pretty far up Salmon Creek {about a mile south of the bulletin board) and was remarking that I didn’t see the usual 50 or 60 minnows in our cool off spot..a minute or so later..a 20 inch eel came meandering by..first I,ve seen up here in my 19 yr residency..Do they eat minnows?

    • Life time local

      They are lamprey and they clean the rocks…I believe… but don’t quote me on it. They are what the eel was named for.

      • I believe the lamprey are parasitic. They attach to salmon and steelhead (and probably other large fish), use their tongue to tear a hole through the skin, and drink their blood.
        Hopefully someone who knows better can correct me.

        • Life time local

          Yes but only parasitic after they mature correct ? They eat debris as babies as far as I know. They are the arasitic after making there way to the ocean and it would seem possibly when they run back up the river….
          http://calfish.ucdavis.edu/species/?uid=61&ds=241
          Check this out it explains
          I think the large one described in earlier comments would be transitioning or already parasitic but they feed on detritus when they are young and for most of their time in the river.

          • Thanks for the follow up. These eels are so interesting. I still have friends who do not believe they live in our rivers.

          • Lost Croat Outburst

            If you want to get technical, there may be up to four species, one or two predatory and one or two stream-dwelling scavengers. They are jawless, just big sucker mouths. True eels are jawed fishes. These lampreys are very primitive. You know how rich salmon is. The parasitic lampreys suck fats, juices, proteins, blood out of salmon. Another step up on the food chain. Very rich and oily by all accounts and considered a delicacy local tribes.

  • 30 or so years ago, we used to catch a few large trout(small Steelhead) and suckers with lampreys still attached. On others we would see circular scars/sores where they had come off.
    This was in the Spring, when the lampreys run.

  • We saw a 20+” steelhead in the main stem a couple of days ago…water is still running high. We usually see the steelies in March but I’m guessing they’re still there due to the late rains. I’m sure that fish was headed downstream back to the ocean…F&G will probably see it.

  • Well. While we are at it, talking about eel and species that eat and clean the environment (invasive or not)…..
    I have a ton of (what I believe are) BULL FROG POLLYWOGS in my pond. I know how destructive BF’s are.
    Any suggestions on getting rid of the pollywogs without contaminating the pond or introducing invasive species?

    • Bullfrogs are highly invasive. They will eat almost anything. Get a frog gig (bamboo pole with barbed, steel prongs on the end). At night, have someone hold a light pointed at them so they can’t see then you stab/gig them. Obviously you have to wait until they mature, but it is very effective. Frog legs also taste pretty good.

    • Drain the pond to storage tanks in late July or early August. Natural ponds in this area were almost all vernal and either drained or evaporated in late summer. Native pond species (frogs etc.) almost all have life cycles that survive a dry time. Harvest all the bullfrog legs you can eat.
      Or invite a Heron to lunch.

      • Thanks for the suggestions!
        Question: If the frogs “survive a dry time”, what is the value in draining the pond? I usually drain and refill my swimming pond this time of year. When I do, and it’s low, maybe I can net the pollywogs and cast them into the brush.
        And. Will look for a ‘Rent-a-Heron’!

        • I think he means that the natives (non-bullfrogs) will survive if you dry the pond, where the bullfrogs will not. That is a good suggestion.
          I would be curious if the birds wold show up naturally to a drying pond, knowing that they can catch whatever is left over.

        • Zando is right. Bullfrogs need the late summer water. The natives– insects, amphibians and even pond environment plants– either have already mated, left eggs or “larvae” or seeds that can weather the dryness, or have another strategy for adult survival til the rains return. Reports are that predators do sense the easy pickings. If nothing else ravens will sometimes show up and they always tell tell the whole neighborhood.

  • I do like their sound. Bummer they are invasive.

  • How in the fuck did the topic of fish n game busting potential grows go to 32 comments on “dude fishing” tales??? wTF

  • I call bullshit on the claim the creek/rivers clear slower then previous years. After a large storm the rivers are nowcfishable in two to theee days. In years past it was about a week. Its due to the reduction of logging and the modern forest practice act.

  • “….. they said they were just in the area to check the channel and depth of the creek.”

    The horror.

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