[UPDATE Tuesday] Slide Hampers Search for Missing Family in Crash off Hwy 96

When a car went into the Klamath River about 7:30 p.m. yesterday, the husband reportedly climbed the steep sides and called for help for his wife and child/children. Rescuers eventually believed they had located where the vehicle had gone into the river but, they were unable to locate the actual vehicle or, the family. Today, the search continues but the weather and a slide that collapsed have hampered efforts.

In the early hours today, a slip out on Hwy 96 (see photo of it yesterday below) grew much worse. The highway had to be closed as there was no pavement left according to one account heard on the scanner.

car driving on the wrong side of the road to avoid the crumbling Hwy

A car drove on the wrong side of Hwy 96 yesterday as the already damaged roadway crumbled further. Today, the road is closed. [Photo provided by Nat Pennington]

This is hampering attempts to reach the crash scene. A Coast Guard helicopter has again been requested.

According to the California Highway Patrol Incident Page, the vehicle is a dark blue Toyota. The vehicle may be a Yaris. either an Aristo or a Taurus. We’re unclear.

Caltrans is going to attempt to open the area through the slide enough to allow a search and rescue boat through to the crash scene.

Multiple agencies and departments were at the scene last night including the Orleans VFD, The Willow Creek VFD, the Happy Camp VFD, Hoopa Ambulance, the California Highway Patrol and the Siskiyou County Sheriff.

UPDATE Tuesday: After Traffic Crash Into Klamath River, Mother and Two Children Believed to Have Died Before They Could Be Rescued

Earlier Chapter: Family’s Vehicle in River; Husband Climbs Embankment

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Pen
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Pen
7 years ago

So the vehicle is a Toyota, Aristotle or Taurus?
This makes no sense.
The man who claimed the embankment is the husband/father but he doesn’t know the kind of car they own???

Bob
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Bob
7 years ago
Reply to  Pen

Yes, this makes no sense at all. If it is an Aristo?? (Aerostar maybe) Thats a minivan made by Ford. Tauras is a medium sized car made by Ford. If it is a Toyota car it would be a Camery or Corolla. If its a van it would be a Sienna maybe. How can this guy not know what kind of car he owns/drives.

Bob
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Bob
7 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Thats JDM only. In the US those are sold as A Lexus GS model.

Molly
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Molly
7 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I would think they meant Toyota Yaris

Just wondering
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Just wondering
7 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Does the make and model matter ?!? Are there that many trucks and car floating down the river that we have to know make and model ?!?!

Steph
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Steph
7 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Maybe that is the reason the police arent giving out the exact make and model of car? So sad… after this long there isnt much hope for survival. I assume the car is submerged? I wonder how husband was able to get out of the water?

Grandma
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Grandma
7 years ago
Reply to  Just wondering

gofundme.com/funeral-for-liz-and-her-two-girls
My daughter Elizabeth and her daughters, 41/2 year old Tlaloc and 15 month old Victoria, are still missing an believed to be in their car in the Klamath. Thank you to all who have been so supportive for her husband Odier and the rest of us.

Brie
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Brie
7 years ago
Reply to  Bob

People not knowing year, make, and model is actually more common then you’d believe. I deal with it almost daily at my work.

Mr. Bear
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Mr. Bear
7 years ago
Reply to  Brie

That would be understandable since you are a veterinarian. /s

Pickles
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Pickles
7 years ago
Reply to  Pen

And that is what you are worried about? Really!! Maybe put the husband/father in your prayers. Not sure what I would do if I lost my family.

DEBRA
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DEBRA
7 years ago
Reply to  Pickles

RIGHT…MENY FOR THE FAMILY…

Amber
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Amber
7 years ago
Reply to  Pickles

Sounds like foul play that familys worse off than they would have been if he would have tried to get them himself.

Ww
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Ww
7 years ago
Reply to  Amber

Wow really?!?
Because a dispatcher had a hard time hearing the reporting officer and wrote “aris” which led to attempt to describe make/model of the vehicle, that makes it foul play?
So rude to say such things, how the hell can you judge like that? Were you there documenting his efforts to get his family out? If your kids were stuk would you keep trying without luck or eventually go look for help? Have you ever even been in a life or death situation? Count your blessings if not, its a better use of time than seeking blame and judgement.

Grandma
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Grandma
7 years ago
Reply to  Amber

[edit] He was ejected and had to watch his family be carried away from him in the current.

Loio
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Loio
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

Im so sorry to hear that grandma! What a traumatic event for all. Ignore the crappy people who just want to be mean. There are lots of us sending love. The majority id say.

shirley hugdahl
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shirley hugdahl
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

if he was thrown clear the car would have been wide open for water to rush in…. terrible to imagine for all of them….

Grandma
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Grandma
7 years ago
Reply to  Amber

There are some real ugly people out there.. How did you sleep? We didn’t. Imagine your wifen and grand children, my babies, under 20 feet of frigid water and waiting for them to be recovered knowing they are gone but holding on to the thread of hope they are okay because no bodies have been found.
Thank you to those that have blessed us with prayers and heart felt condolences.

Sleepy Alligator
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Sleepy Alligator
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

Grandma don’t even pay attention to all the inconsiderate things people say on here. It just shows the callous personality these people have. Just know that most of us have nothing but compassion for your family and our hearts are broken for your family’s tragic loss.

Roberta and Mark DeRose
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Roberta and Mark DeRose
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

Grandma, you don’t know me, but My Husband Mark and I would like to give you our heart-felt prayers for you, your daughter, and your two Grand-babies!!! Also to their Dad and Husband!!! We are unable to send money but we will pray for them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Again Sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!

Deborah Horwitz
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Deborah Horwitz
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

Dear Grandma
My daughter knew Liz’s step mother and thought very highly of her. We just want you and your family to know you are in our thoughts and prayers. Words can not express our sincere sympathy for your loss. Please try to find comfort knowing Liz, Victoria & Lizzie are with our Lord free of any and all pain. Remember that when the Lord whispers to you to come home you will be greeted by Liz and her precious girls. May your faith in God help to ease the pain and grief you have to endure. Sending you love and prayers now and in the days & months ahead as you heal. God Bless all of you. 😘🙏🏻💞

Deborah Horwitz
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Deborah Horwitz
7 years ago
Reply to  Amber

Amber really? You want to claim foul play? Do you know anything about this family or this man that gives you the right to judge him? I hardly think so. Please this poor guy is in enough pain without you adding suspicion to his misery. I’m praying for Liz and her girls, her husband and her family. Dear Lord please help this family find peace and comfort through you our Lord, Amen.

Bigchaz
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Bigchaz
7 years ago
Reply to  Pen

So you have obviously never been in a stressful situation. The guy probably just lost his family and you have nothing better to do than nitpick a rough report, Get a life

C. Armstong
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C. Armstong
7 years ago
Reply to  Bigchaz

Couldn’t agree more.

Concerned
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Concerned
7 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I took it as possibly a Toyota Yaris. Just mistyped.

Bob
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Grandma
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Grandma
7 years ago
Reply to  Pen

He just watched his wife of 8 years and two daughters -4 1/2 and 15 months being swept away after their car spun out of control and rolled down the steep embankment. It is my daughter and grand children who are missing. Who cares if their father cannot remember what model the car was. You should be ashamed of yourself. ..

Randi
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Randi
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

Your family is in my prayers. We have so many tricky sections of road in this region. Add a little bit of bad weather and the worst sometimes happens. What a sad day. There a no words at such a time.

Sleepy Alligator
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Sleepy Alligator
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

Grandma my heart hurts for you right now. I’m keeping my thoughts positive for them to be rescued.

Candi
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Candi
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

Your family Is in my prayers, may God Help guide rescue team and recover your dear daughter and grandchildren. Praying for strength, guidance, love and understanding.

marla57
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marla57
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

please do not read these comments grandma. There are sick people everywhere here is no exception. I hope you know there are a great many people sending positive thoughts and prayers for you and your family.

Nancy
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Nancy
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

My heart goes out to you and your family.

Rebekah Sluss
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Rebekah Sluss
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

My heart aches for you and your family. I have been praying and thinking of them since last night. So sorry Grandma.

The Davis's
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The Davis's
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

I’m so sorry to hear may our prayers be with you I’m so so sorry that every one has to not pick at every thing I want you to know that we are truely Hart broken for your loss

The Bean
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The Bean
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

I’m praying for you and your family. Sending you lots of love and support.

Spikie
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Spikie
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

So sorry this has happened to you and your family.

Tara Sutherland
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Tara Sutherland
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

I am truly sorry you are going through this nightmare! Praying for you and yours! 🙏

Berta
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Berta
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

Bless you. I pray for peace and understanding for your family. Feel awful that this happened and even worse that people with darkness and evil in their hearts don’t know how to keep it from spewing out of their mouths.

Sniewinski
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Sniewinski
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

Please know how sorry we all are and know that many many prayers are being said for your family.

Nancy Larson
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Nancy Larson
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

Grandma my heart goes out to you and your family. Praying they will be found and you can begin to adjust to this new path the Lord has put you on.

Concerned Community Member
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Concerned Community Member
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

I’m so sorry Grandma! You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers!

XXXXXX
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XXXXXX
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

I am so very sorry for this hell you, your son-in-law and rest of both families are going through! My heart Feels so bad for all of you! Please don’t let the insensitive comments being made add to your pain and tears! Most folks are good and kind and feel horrible for you all! May God help you bear this pain… prayers being said for you!

throttlebro
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throttlebro
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

Kym doesn’t really care about those affected. Shes all about the facts…. Like car make and model….. (seriously toyot aris….. Idiot) What a scary scary situation. Article does not specify, but wonder if the road actually gave out. Been over some sketchy ones during extreme rainfall.

Bunny Wilder
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Bunny Wilder
7 years ago
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Unbelievably sad, I am so so sorry. I can’t imagine anything worse. And then to see unkind comments is just too much. Almost all of us send you love.

Lindsay
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Lindsay
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

I’m praying for you guys. MY heart goes out.

Agrifarmer
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Agrifarmer
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

We are praying constantly for your family…our hearts hurt for your loss…God Bless you all. We are so very sorry…please hold your son in law close for us all…

Judy
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Judy
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

My heart goes out to you. As a grandma I can’t imagine your pain. I lived in Orleans years ago and those roads always scared me. They have taken way too many lives. Prayers to you and your family.

Marilyn Riley
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Marilyn Riley
7 years ago
Reply to  Pen

Yaris is a Toyota

gunther
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gunther
7 years ago

so sad. makes me cry.

Anon
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Anon
7 years ago

He was able to climb out but didn’t free his wife and children first?!!?
Sounds fishy. Hope the wife and kid(s) are found safe. So sad. I hate bad news when kids are involved. :'(

Concerned
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Concerned
7 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Yes, submerged in freezing cold water, possibly upside down it would be pretty hard to free anyone when he could of possibly be injured as well. And since they are having a hard time locating the vehicle maybe it kept moving down River before he was able to get to their side of the vehicle. Nothing sounds fishy. It sounds like a tragic accident.

Steph
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Steph
7 years ago
Reply to  Concerned

Especially kids in a carseat, so so so so sad 🙁

XXXXXX
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XXXXXX
7 years ago
Reply to  Concerned

Definitely tragic! Anon, the mother/grandmother of his wife and children said he was ejected!

With the swift currents and depth of the rivers and creeks right now, the vehicle could have been unreachable in a matter of a minute or two.

Why must there always be those who assume the worst! Especially when they 1) weren’t there 2) don’t have all the facts. Try some empathy and concern instead!

Jayne Dough
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Jayne Dough
7 years ago
Reply to  XXXXXX

AGREED!!!!!! Stop the snide remarks, an accident happened, people are missing, family members devastated, there is NO REASON TO BLAME ANYONE, NO FOUL PLAY!!!!!! Wow, and if you don’t like what Kym has on the site…GO ELSEWHERE!!! I am personally shocked at what some people comment, ya’ll must be perfect! lmbo

throttlebro
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throttlebro
7 years ago
Reply to  Jayne Dough

Just like when Kym posted the photo of the kids in Garb? Totally accused those kids of a crime. Lock Up Kym, Hillary, and the rest of the sexist feminists!
http://www.times-standard.com/general-news/20170301/update-backlash-after-sheriffs-garberville-photos-no-charges-pending

Sleepy Alligator
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Sleepy Alligator
7 years ago
Reply to  throttlebro

Here’s a very simple solution for you Mighty Flawless One: Don’t like it, don’t fuckin read it!

Sleepy Alligator
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Sleepy Alligator
7 years ago
Reply to  XXXXXX

Plus it was snowing so hard that night that visibility had to be minimum, if any at all.

Marie
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Marie
7 years ago
Reply to  Anon

I think that is a rather hasty conclusion to jump to. The water is freezing and very fast moving and he escaped the vehicle after an accident which would leave any normal person disoriented. Also it was pitch back out there and the rescuers with lights couldn’t even find the vehicle. It may have sunk low or been swept downstream as he was removing himself. It’s very easy to assume you could just grab them, but that’s not a judgement any of us should put on this man who has likely lost his entire family.

barn owl
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barn owl
7 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym, any word on the man’s condition? Is he in a hospital? Prayers for all concerned, including Search & Rescue Team.

Maryellen
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Maryellen
7 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I’m so sorry for the entire family.. the hardest situation, nothing goes like you imagine it should.. all love to all involved

gunther
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gunther
7 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

And we don’t know the time line. Maybe he spent an hour trying to rescue his family before he left to get help.

LERG
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LERG
7 years ago
Reply to  Marie

Indeed.

Howcome
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Howcome
7 years ago
Reply to  Marie

Well said

Grandma
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Grandma
7 years ago
Reply to  Marie

Thank you.

panamnikchik
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panamnikchik
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

My thoughts and prayers are with you and the family…especially with the dad, who just lost everything. Praying he’s not alone during this nightmare. The community of Orleans is mourning with you all in this tragic loss.

Teá
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Teá
7 years ago
Reply to  Grandma

Our family recently had a fire and all I could think about was if everyone was out. Everything else was a total blur. Although everyone is okay and no personal items burned, it has been mentally devastating. I couldn’t remember my address to call the fire department!
Shame on anyone who judges someone in that terrible situation.
I am truely sorry Grandma (and son-in-law.) I hope that you find the answers that you need and a have a good support system during this most difficult time.

Safe driving is not a joke.
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Safe driving is not a joke.
7 years ago
Reply to  Anon

I thought that too.
Than I thought about how many knocked-out people I could drag through a fast flowing river with a broken arm, a sprained ankle, and banged up head (as an example of the kind of injuries that could have happened).
Here’s hoping the fishy-ness remains just a feeling.

guest
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guest
7 years ago
Reply to  Anon

yes that thought crossed my mind , why would this guy abandon his family in midst of this crisis,yet there just arent enough facts to pass judgement.i wasnt there. were you?

Concerned citizen
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Concerned citizen
7 years ago
Reply to  guest

Someone said he was ejected.

panamnikchik
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panamnikchik
7 years ago
Reply to  Anon

I think that’s a ridiculous thing to say. Do not judge. You weren’t there. You don’t know how things happened. The man just lost his entire family. Our roads are extremely treacherous up here and it was a stormy night. Our river is high. Please keep negative comments to yourself at this tragic time.

Deborah Horwitz
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Deborah Horwitz
7 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Why would you post such mean things? Liz’s mother is reading these post. She has enough pain. Her daughter and granddaughters are with our Lord and her son in law was injured. Please pray for them don’t add to their pain by posting things you have no personal knowledge of. To Liz’s Mother I’m sorry these type of post are here. I have your family in my thoughts and prayers. My daughter knows your other daughter, the one who has started the gofund me account. May the Lord comfort all of you during this difficult and tragic time. God Bless you. Amen

Lala
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Lala
7 years ago

Doesnt the forest service have helicopterz out that way? Small planes, like the fire spotters?
Or is the weather impeding flying in that area?

Prayers to the family, and to everyone involved.

Ice
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Ice
7 years ago
Reply to  Lala

Forest Service leases helicopters in Summer, they don’t own any at all. Closest FS one in Summer would be Happy camp. Not even on contract til June…CalFire owns some, one is from Kneeland, but they put it down in Vina off I-5 indoors for winters. No Fire planes in the winter, all put away over in the valley. Heavy snow and rain there, anyway, even the one they ordered probably cant make it…

Lala
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Lala
7 years ago
Reply to  Ice

Thank you for the info!

Capitalist pig
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Capitalist pig
7 years ago

Pen.are you serious? Lighten up

Sparklemahn
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Sparklemahn
7 years ago
Reply to  Capitalist pig

That’s “lighten up, Francis”!

Jason
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Jason
7 years ago

It could have been a rental car. Just saying.

Ww
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Ww
7 years ago
Reply to  Jason

Thats what i was thinking too

a caring person
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a caring person
7 years ago

seriously people this poor man whos family is missing could just be in shock and doesnt know the make of the car who cares ! instead take a minute to say a prayer instead of talking about bullshit

Howcome
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Howcome
7 years ago

There are several people in the area, as well as the tribe, who have boats and would be willing to use. Is a search and rescue boat different somehow? I don’t understand.

Ice
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Ice
7 years ago
Reply to  Howcome

Salyer/Hawkins bar VFD actually has a hovercraft. Don’t know if that’s what they are trying to bring..the river is high and fast, they cant use little boats..

Roberta
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Roberta
7 years ago
Reply to  Howcome

The search and rescue boat is the only boat big enough to withstand the high waters right now. The Salyer fire department boat capsized when put in the water.

tony
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tony
7 years ago

Toyota Yaris makes more sense

Guest
Guest
Guest
7 years ago

My thought would be maybe he was ejected before the car went into the water, otherwise he obviously wouldn’t have left them, no matter terrible either way. Also if he had trauma to the head then who knows what he would remember clearly. A terrible tragedy but praying for the best on this cold wet winter day😔

Weitchpec resident
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Weitchpec resident
7 years ago

The rescuers could use Dowd road,and could of been there by now.

anna
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anna
7 years ago

Yeah Toyota yaris is the most sensible option. All of these reports are translated off of verbal communication. Yaris (yaw-rus) could have been mistook for “aris” which isn’t a thing but everyone knows the Ford Taurus which is often pronounced “taw-rus” so seriously. Miscommunication doesn’t mean this story loses any credibility.

Mike
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Mike
7 years ago

In the name of the Power of Truth and Light in this world, please, pray for my family, my daughter, my daughter’s daughter and her sweet little kids. And pray for Daddy; May he survive intact. Amen, amen, amen.

guest
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guest
7 years ago
Reply to  Mike

i like how you think mike. best wishes to all

b
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b
7 years ago
Reply to  Mike

If this is the Mike I know,please text me now.
Becky

N
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N
7 years ago

🙁

Tammy
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Tammy
7 years ago

The poor man was most likely horrified and in shock. When a person is in such a stressful situation, it is common that a person would not recall information accurately. Please be kind to this man and other family members rather than speculate.

Scooter
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Scooter
7 years ago

I know that the weather last night sucked. I know that this happened 100 miles from anything. I know that everyone tried their best. But it is horrifying to think that all of the rescuers turned around and waited until today. I understand that the risks involved could lead to more loss of life, and that must be avoided. But the Klamath is a big area that has minimal emergency services even on a clear day. What could be done as far as pre placement of rescue equipment, or personnel when we all know that snow is going to shut down the mountain passes? Is there any way to prevent this from happening again? That’s all I am asking.

Liz
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Liz
7 years ago
Reply to  Scooter

I read the rescuers went down last night where it left the road and couldn’t find it or the people. I am hoping they will be found hanging onto a tree waiting to be found. I hope it will be soon!

Reel it in
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Reel it in
7 years ago

Easy with the judgement folks!!!

Shock/trauma can affect memory and clear thought on the whole, and he may have a head injury. Family could have been trapped and needing extraction. He may not even remember climbing up the hill, and is pretty amazing that he did especially in that weather.
To me that crazy kind of shock felt like when you drink too much alcohol, and when you think back on events they seem more like a dream.

Sparklemahn
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Sparklemahn
7 years ago
Reply to  Reel it in

Yes.

JD
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JD
7 years ago

Where is the compassion people? Half of these posts challenge my faith in humanity. As a husband/father I can’t begin to imagine what this poor man is going through right know. What was he driving? Really? That’s what you’re wondering after reading this horrible tragedy? Shame on you! He didn’t save his family? Seriously? Our society is filled with arm chair heroes who think they could have/would have done it “correctly”. Do you know anything about PTSD? Ever heard of survivors guilt? How do you think this event will affect the rest of this man’s life? We gotta be better than this people… SMH

Natalie
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Natalie
7 years ago
Reply to  JD

Well said. Such an unthinkable trajedy. My prayers go out to this poor family.

Natalie
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Natalie
7 years ago
Reply to  JD

Well said. Such an unthinkable trajedy. It all seemed confusing to me as well, but can only hope for the absolute best. My prayers go out to this poor family.

Natalie
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Natalie
7 years ago
Reply to  JD

This person absolutely could not have said it best. Thank you! I really mean that…thank you! Such a horrible and unthinkable trajedy. My continued prayers for this poor family.

Natalie
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Natalie
7 years ago
Reply to  Natalie

My apologies for the repeat comments. It would not allow me to post (even the first time) saying that I had already posted something similar. I tried changing the wording and it accepted only after adding a website. Sorry about that.

VHDA
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VHDA
7 years ago
Reply to  JD

As a mother, grandmother, and aunt I cannot even begin to know the heart-
break and anguish the family members are going through…my heart, prayers and tears go out to them…..as for the thoughtless commenters please look deep inside your heart and soul and find a little compassion.

guest
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guest
7 years ago
Reply to  JD

+++

User77
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User77
7 years ago
Reply to  JD

Exactly, everything you said!!! Worthy of this info too…He was thrown from the vehicle far upslope on an at least 80 degree slope. Did not see where vehicle with slope & almost no visibility. That’s why they had to look for a “point of entry”. Also there were was a new rock slide when others arrived at scene. Pointing to a very possible reason why vehicle went off road. This is tradegy. Our roads are dangerous. Many completely innocent lives lost over the years. Absurd speculation & judgement doesn’t make it easier to bear. God forbid any of those posted those kinds of things are ever in the position to learn this the hard way… Have they no shame?! Vile

panamnikchik
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panamnikchik
7 years ago
Reply to  JD

Thank you for this intelligent comment. I wholeheartedly agree with you, User77. My prayers and love go out to this family, and especially the dad.

Shak
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Shak
7 years ago
Reply to  JD

Very well said, thank you!

Janice
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Janice
7 years ago
Reply to  JD

Armchair heros and keyboard philosophers.

Morgan
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Morgan
7 years ago

Prayers and positive thoughts sent to the family. This is so sad, this man may have lost everything last night. The last thing he needs is some one saying some things fishy. Negative people need to keep their mouths closed. What ever happened to ” if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all”

Loio
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Loio
7 years ago
Reply to  Morgan

“Reality” (really scripted) tv shows are teaching folks how to be bitchy, rude and uncaring towards one another while constantly playing the blame card. Whether the viewer knows it or not. It normalizes acting like a jerk, unfortunately.

River Rat
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River Rat
7 years ago

A Tragedy.

Jason
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Jason
7 years ago

What does it matter what the make of the car is? How many cars are in the river?

Tired of the crime
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Tired of the crime
7 years ago

I hope for the best outcome possible at this point, given conditions and time elapsed. Too many losses this season due to weather related issues

Kim
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Kim
7 years ago

My prayers for this whole family.

gunther
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gunther
7 years ago

Who cares what car it is? If you find a car in the water there, it’s probably the right one.

Ice
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Ice
7 years ago
Reply to  gunther

Not that easy to find, its 100-150′ foot cliffs straight down thru there, all covered with big timber. the river is running high and full of mud…

chelsea burns
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chelsea burns
7 years ago

this is not entertainment these are lives. i hate how our society has become so jaded and how anyone would think it would be okay to make such speculationshort and statement because they are to busy hiding behind a screen. love and light to all of those affected by such an awful accident♡

Sparklemahn
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Sparklemahn
7 years ago
Reply to  chelsea burns

Agreed.

Janice
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Janice
7 years ago
Reply to  chelsea burns

Thank you!

Shak
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Shak
7 years ago

My condolences, thoughts & prayers go out to all. Tragic.

mhaxby
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mhaxby
7 years ago

Years ago, I worked with the fire department and ambulance in that area. It’s easy to sit at home on your computer and pass judgment on what the EMS and rescue personnel did or didn’t do. Most people don’t understand that response times can range from a few minutes to hours with unimaginable variables. Orleans is a rural area with very limited resources. When you’re trying to conduct a search and rescue or body recovery there’s a lot of things to take into consideration….This is a horrific tragedy and I truly believe that the volunteers and the rescue personnel are doing the best they can with what they have available. People are bickering bout the description of the car, or if someone has the right to pray or should and those are both really completely irrelevant, a man lost his entire family and people are going to judge him on how he responds to that. I can’t even imagine what he’s going through … if I lost my family I wouldn’t be able to function. It’s kind of disheartening to see all the lack of compassion. My heart breaks for everybody involved.

Ww
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Ww
7 years ago
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Very well said, thank you!

tiffiney
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tiffiney
7 years ago

prayer ♡♡♡ breaks my heart and makes me cry
..prayers to all involded

HupaLady
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HupaLady
7 years ago

I live in Hoopa and heard no recent updates on this horrible tragedy. The last update that I heard was the father was currently unconscious, and was beat up pretty bad. My guess was he was thrown from the vehicle, that’s how he managed to get out and not the family. He had reportedly gone back to help his family once he located help for them.

Tim Haywood
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Tim Haywood
7 years ago

Anxious to hear any updates. Hoping for the best for all of the victims and rescuers. I have seen some really good comments from folks with genuine concern for the safety and welfare of the people in this terrible situation and I have seen some comments that really make me sick to my stomach. Unbelievable the shit people some people will say from the safety of their armchair sitting in front of a computer or staring at a smart phone or tablet…warm, dry and safe. Shameful is what it is!

KL
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KL
7 years ago
Reply to  Tim Haywood

They’ve located the vehicle fully submerged underwater

Py
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Py
7 years ago
Reply to  KL

Are you sure? And do you have anymore info?

Anjel
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Anjel
7 years ago

Let us all remember, there but for the grace of god/goddess go I.

Rather than spinning your head out on blame and what may have happened, i think its a way better use of time to tell all your loved ones how much you care, cherish your time with them, figure out how to help productively, and be grateful for all you have. Running water, electricity, shelter,,clothes and that your family is not MIA after crashing into a swift moving river in the dark during a snow storm in a remote area.

Poppins
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Poppins
7 years ago

Mike, please know that there are so very many folks here along the river and elsewhere who are lifting up your family in prayers. Please know that we care. Please disregard the “speculation” and the negative comments. May your family be found. Our hearts are breaking over this tragic accident. Thank you to all the first responders and all the folks that offered help.

Answers
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Answers
7 years ago

Any updates on situation chp page has nothing …any knowledge of them getting boat in water or helicopter in the air?

Ullr Rover
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7 years ago

Mar 5 2017 7:25PM
1179-Trfc Collision-1141 Enrt
4185 Mm96

Mar 6 2017 10:05AM [87] 1039 CT – TO ATT TO OPEN RDWY ENOUGHT TO ALLOW S/R BOAT THRU PER S2
Mar 6 2017 9:44AM [84] VEH DESC/ DK BLU TOYT ARIS
Mar 6 2017 8:45AM [83] 1039 USCG TO SEARCH RIVER -RAINING LIGHT DIZZLE 1 VIZIBILITY
Mar 6 2017 8:37AM [81] PER YUROK TRIBAL/HOOPA: NOT ACCESSIBLE DUE TO ROAD CLOSURE: PER DEP KICKOFF
Mar 6 2017 8:32AM [79] PER HSO : NOT ACCESSABLE BECAUSE CLOSURE S/R
Mar 5 2017 10:34PM [73] 1039 HOOPA TRIBAL
Mar 5 2017 10:04PM [66] [Notification] [CHP]-PER HOOPA THE VOLUNTEER WAS ENRT 25-30 AGO AND SHOULD BE ABOUT 20 MORE MIN ETA
Mar 5 2017 10:02PM [65] 1039 HSO
Mar 5 2017 9:50PM [62] BOAT IS LEAVING EUREKA NOW/WILL ADV WHEN THEY ARE 97 IN WILLOW CREEK AND WILL NEED SNOW PLOW ESCORT
Mar 5 2017 9:47PM [60] 143 30 MIN ETA
Mar 5 2017 9:46PM [59] [Notification] [CHP]-PER HSO CAL FIRE ADV THERE IS 1/2 FOOT OF SNOW/REQ SNOW PLOW ESCORT THROUGH WILLOW CREEK
Mar 5 2017 9:32PM [55] PER 72 SEARCH PTY HAS FOUND WHERE VEH ENTERED THE RIVER BUT HAVE BNOT FOUND THE VEH
Mar 5 2017 8:58PM [46] 1039 DNSO FOR YUROK TRIBAL /WILL GET AHOLD OF S UNIT
Mar 5 2017 8:47PM [43] B16-072 PER FIRE BOAT ENRT FROM SALYER
Mar 5 2017 8:42PM [40] 1039 16-S4
Mar 5 2017 8:42PM [39] B16-072 HSO AS WELL AS 1141 ARE GOING DOWN 1 MI DOWN STREAM TO TRY AND LOCATE VEH
Mar 5 2017 8:41PM [37] B16-072 NOTIFY S4 500 TO 100 FEET DOWN VEH IN THE RIVER UNK STATUS OF OTHER 3 OCCUPANTS
Mar 5 2017 7:59PM [25] 1021 HSO/CAL FIRE SEE IF ANYONE ON SCENE
Mar 5 2017 7:58PM [24] B16-072 96 MM 19.95 RESPONSE DELAYED TO SNOW AND FOG
Mar 5 2017 7:48PM [23] 1039 HSO
Mar 5 2017 7:46PM [20] PER YREKA CHP ETA 2 HOURS
Mar 5 2017 7:45PM [18] 1039 16-S4
Mar 5 2017 7:43PM [17] CAL FIRE IS ENRT FROM SISKIYOU CO
Mar 5 2017 7:42PM [16] 1039 SISKIYOU CO SO//ALSO PUT THROUGH TO CAL FIRE
Mar 5 2017 7:34PM [12] 1039 HSO
Mar 5 2017 7:28PM [9] 1039 HSO
Mar 5 2017 7:28PM [8] 1039 HOOPA 1141
Mar 5 2017 7:27PM [3] MALE STATED HIS WIFE AND JUV ARE IN THE VEH STILL IN THE RIVER
Mar 5 2017 7:27PM [2] MALE IS BLOODY AND ADV HIS VEH WENT INTO THE RIVER NEAR THIS MM
Last updated: 03/06/2017 3:24pm

Could be anything
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Could be anything
7 years ago

My thoughts and prayers to all. What an awful, tragic situation. I don’t think the mistake with car make and model is that important. How many cars are in the river possibly floating downstream right now? My heart is breaking for this family.

Just-me
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Just-me
7 years ago

Very sad, tragic. Keep the prayers coming. Family has been in that freezing water a long time. Keep the prayers coming.

M
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M
7 years ago

as of right now they have not been able to locate the wife, two children that were involved ages one and three, or the vehicle.

Greendenny
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Greendenny
7 years ago

Any newer updates Kym? Waters cold and moving fast there. Over night is long and scarey. Best wishes to all involved!! Thanks for keeping us informed of or rural dangers. Be safe out there, nothing is more important than your life and that of your loved ones, the ones around us and our amazing search/rescue community!! One love!

Seamus
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Seamus
7 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Seems that when the situation is most serious, they really clam up.

Lojo
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Lojo
7 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Oh kym i can hear your frustration, it seems a bit odd that no info was released today, nor any questions answered, like did the coast guard make it out there. Hopefully its not due to interagency fighting over whose case it is.
I too think they are remiss in their silence.
This is such an emotional one that hits close to home. We know you are doing all you can, all the time. I truly appreciate your diligence and compassion.
Tho theres no keeping all the trolls away, i hope you pride yourself on knowing the majority of folks commenting on your site are being positive, which is pretty damn amazing these days.
Thank you a million times over. Knowing we can trust you as not only a valid news source but also an amazing caring community member is a magnificent gift ♡

Lojo
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Lojo
7 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I hope you dont feel too bad, this is too important of a thing to not address at all today.
Unfortunately journalism becomes prodding at times and we need journalists to do just that as a representative of us all.
Just see us behind you having your back, you are gathering info for our whole community. Im sure they like that better than all of us calling them directly for info!
It may also be a way to show that there is not enough staff for when emergencies happen.

Tired of the crime
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Tired of the crime
7 years ago

Is what KL stating true? What source has given this information please

Orleans Local
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Orleans Local
7 years ago

Yes, sadly that statement is correct. Heard this same information directly from someone who was on scene both last night and today, and no I won’t identify the victims, though some locals already have on social media. I wont elaborate further, if the family wishes to share they will. Prayers for the family.

Sleepy Alligator
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Sleepy Alligator
7 years ago
Reply to  Orleans Local

Thank you for letting us know.

sharpen your pencil
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sharpen your pencil
7 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I’m still hoping to be wrong Kym, and that this is just speculation…… This is so, so sad…..

Seamus
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Seamus
7 years ago

Well that is just horrible! Worst possible outcome for this.

Guest
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Guest
7 years ago

Okay, am I the only one who is wondering why they aren’t more concerned for the children and mothers life!? I don’t know if I’m just confused or are they still in the car? And if they are why is it not urgent that they find the car? Is this not a matter of life or death!? I just figured it would be a bugger deal than they are making it out to be..

Laurie
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Laurie
7 years ago

Takes your breath away,So heartbreaking.

Linda
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Linda
7 years ago

This tragedy has really touched my heart !! I have been praying for all concerned since I heard about it last night. Grandma, I too am a grandma. I can’t imagine the tears and distress you must be going through. My heart goes out to all !!
Shame on you people that are blaming that poor man !!!

Erin
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Erin
7 years ago
Reply to  Linda

Linda, you’re not the only one. I’m wondering the same thing too. This whole thing is confussing. I Hope all is found safe. I’m Praying…

Py
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Py
7 years ago

This is so heart rending.. And makes me sick to read. It literally has my stomach in knots. Such a devastating ending to such a tragic accident. I just hope that the Husband makes a full recovery and finds the strength to push forward. My continued thoughts and prayers go out to all the family and friends of these 3 beautiful souls. I pray one day you find some peace. My heart breaks for you all💗

Tamera Clary
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7 years ago

Heartbreaking!! My prayers to the family❤

Guest
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Guest
7 years ago

As someone who has been in an accident where the vehicle was submerged in a river, I know firsthand how horrifying it is, and how quickly everything happens. I hope the father who lost his world can find the strength to carry on and know that all three of his girls are with him every single second of every single day. I hope whoever he contacted first, the dispatchers that received the call, every single first responder, and every family member and friend have the strength and support to find peace to cope with this devastating loss. My entire heart goes out to every single soul that has been touched by this truly unfortunate incident. May these beautiful souls Rest In Peace.

Could be anything
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Could be anything
7 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Beautifully said. I concur.

Erin
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Erin
7 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I really hope the father/husband can go on knowing this was out of his control, I pray he can live on knowing he gave it his all. I pray some kind of peace can be with him through out his life and the entire family. May god be with you and the entire family…

homer
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homer
7 years ago

We must hold this guy up as a community whether you know him or not. Send the positive vibes his way. Dark days ahead and while many will go on with their daily lives and forget this tragedy, may others be there for this gentleman.

Capitalist pig
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Capitalist pig
7 years ago

Wow does anybody else wonder what makes people so cynical instead of compassionate?? I’m just curious does anybody have any insight what would happen in somebody’s life to make their first instinct Cold and callous cynicism instead of compassion are they narcissists are they sociopaths ?are they dangerous? I think some of them may be dangerous but I know people who are narcissist and sociopaths and they’re not necessarily dangerous but certainly people you wouldn’t want to have any dealings with has anybody else thought about this subject ?? Seriously I’m curious

Sunlight
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Sunlight
7 years ago
Reply to  Capitalist pig

We’re experiencing today what was foretold long ago… 2 Tim. 3:1-5. It describes a decline in positive behavior

Sara
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Sara
7 years ago

People run off the road all the time on these twisty, wet and sometimes icy roads. There are a million scenarios that could have played out and very few details so I don’t understand how you can come to any sort of conclusion. He’s lucky he survived at all, car crashes into water are hard to survive in the first place. Just a few months ago two girls ran off the road in Mendocino and one survived. Nobody was questioning why she didn’t save her friend. People are so judgmental it’s ridiculous.