Humboldt County Offers Fifty Percent Off Sale On Old Fines

The Superior Court of Humboldt County together with Humboldt County Revenue Recovery announce their participation in the 2012 Statewide Court Fine Amnesty Program authorized by the State of California. This program will  allow people the opportunity to settle their qualifying court fines for 50% of their balance between January 3, 2012 and June 29, 2012.

The intent of the one-time amnesty program is to assist individuals who have found themselves in violation of a court ordered obligation due to a lack of ability to pay for a specified misdemeanor fine or infraction.

Individuals who qualify for the 50% discount must meet all of the following criteria:

  • Currently have an outstanding traffic violation that was due on or before January 1, 2009
  • The last payment was made on or before January 1, 2009
  • Don’t owe victim restitution on any case within the County
  • No outstanding misdemeanor or felony warrants within the County

“This is the first time since 1996 the State has authorized the trial courts to offer an amnesty program. It is a great opportunity for people to clear up outstanding fines and fees at a reduced rate,” said Judge W. Bruce Watson, Presiding Judge, Superior Court of California, County of Humboldt. “Since the last amnesty program was fifteen years ago, who knows when this will come around again? The Court and the County are encouraging people who have old citations to participate in this amnesty program to get rid of old debts.”

In addition to the State mandated amnesty program the County of Humboldt and the Superior Court of Humboldt County are participating in the optional amnesty program which includes some misdemeanor violations. The amnesty program does not apply to parking violations and violations of California Vehicle Code pertaining to reckless driving or driving under the influence.

The amnesty program provides a win-win opportunity for State and local governments to generate much needed revenue while granting individuals the opportunity to clear their record of long standing debt at a reduced rate.

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Nicholas Bravo
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12 years ago

Maybe they’d get paid if one could pay via debit card or credit card. Having to mail in a payment every freaking month is soooooo last century.

Nicholas Bravo
Guest
12 years ago

Maybe they’d get paid if one could pay via debit card or credit card. Having to mail in a payment every freaking month is soooooo last century.

Forest Queen
Guest
12 years ago

Moooooooo. “Please Mas tah don’t do blah, blah, blah.” This week a man was murdered in Arizona, because he asked to see the warrant! My dear friends, we are in a ‘Police STATE.’ Change isn’t happening to us. We ARE the change. Administration’s DEBT/Code collection does not apply to me. Why? BEEcause I do am not employed by CA.INC. I also don’t have to FOLLOW McDonald’s rules. Why? BEEcause I do not work at McDonalds. 50% off, like a sale!! Help Me Rhonda! I’m wondering just how do any one of us pay a debt with a debt? FEDERAL (not) Reserve (obviously not) Notes (can be written on t.p) FRN’s are debt notes. Is that you? The NAME on the ‘bill?’ A so-called ‘bill’ has no charge until we give it, by SIGNING the NAME. Who or what it is that’s above you that you beLIEve you have to have THEIR permission? “What’s your dog’s Name?” “I don’t know but we call her Daisy.”

G.I.B.
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G.I.B.
12 years ago
Reply to  Forest Queen

Are you referring to the Officer that shot a man and his dog? That was one bad cop who seems to have lost it and gone over the edge.

The vast majority of folks working in law enforcement have a professional attitude and want to do the right thing. We often take these dedicated people for granted.

I just have to disagree with you about America being a police state. Check this out. How many were killed in Syria last week for protesting. Approximatelty400. It’s been going on for months. Try protesting in Iran or Communist China, just to name a few of the real police states.

Now relocate “The Clock” in Garberville, where folks protest every week, to North Korea. They’d be killed or moved to a forced labor camp and worked to death, for daring to disagree with their government.

You get my drift. We aren’t perfect and that Arizona police officer is probably guilty of murder but a “Police State”, not even close.

Forest Queen
Guest
12 years ago
Reply to  G.I.B.

GIB – roll over and go back to sleep.

G.I.B.
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G.I.B.
12 years ago
Reply to  G.I.B.

I contribute irrefutable facts for discussion and you respond with a rude comment. Why?

That’s a very immature way to disagree FQ. You could learn a lesson from Tom Seboum’s mature, appropriate and informative response.

Forest Queen
Guest
12 years ago
Reply to  G.I.B.

I apologize for my cynicism, it must be showing.

random guy
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random guy
12 years ago
Reply to  G.I.B.

“I contribute irrefutable facts for discussion and you respond with a rude comment. Why?”

because your a stoopid moran. I’ll second the notion: naptime for you.

Staff
Member
12 years ago
Reply to  random guy

Disagreement is fertilizer for new ideas. Insults are fertilizers for rage. Please, disagree vehemently. Don’t use insults.

random guy
Guest
random guy
12 years ago
Reply to  Staff

It all means the same thing. If the power of words can overcome the power of the meaning behind them so easily, woes be us all. Lookut GIB’s tripe, he’s intentionally fishing for it. I’ll play only to tell it like it is.

“irrefutable facts”, go back to sleep.

Shortjohnson
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Shortjohnson
9 years ago
Reply to  Staff

Only a few days in and your back to your old job of policing the forum. Some work never ends.

Staff
Member
9 years ago
Reply to  Shortjohnson

This was from 2011. The intervening posts are temporarily gone. They’ll return soon.

G.I.B.
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G.I.B.
12 years ago
Reply to  random guy

Thank you for the words of wisdom Kym.

As I recall, the original subject was associated with our rights under the First Amendment and freedom of speech.

It’s easy to become cynical but we’re all in this together.

G.I.B.
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G.I.B.
12 years ago
Reply to  random guy

RG…..Was that moran or moron? Learn to spell Bro if you’re going to hurl insults.

Try Kym’s advice.

Believe it or not RG, I wasn’t fishing and I don’t play games. Someone actually has the audacity not to share your opinion. That’s all. You loose respect when you demonize, vilify or hurl insults at those with which you disagree.

random guy
Guest
random guy
12 years ago
Reply to  G.I.B.

Troll me as long as you like “Bro”. The only irrefutable fact about you is the mistake that was your birth. Trolly trolly troll troll…we both know how this works, moran!

G.I.B.
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G.I.B.
12 years ago
Reply to  random guy

RG… If we’re lucky Kym will show you the door sooner than later..

Hiding behind the ether is a perfect venue for people that talk trash and have no respect for themselves or anyone else. Try posting an idea like the person is sitting right next to you. Life is just too short to be so negative and cynical son.

I’ll leave you with this last thought:

Ignoble people try to harm people with whom they disagree; they want to punish and demean them because they lack self respect.

Adults on the other hand respect robust debate and have the courage to state their beliefs without rancor.

Perhaps you should consider backing off on the drugs and give your brain what obviously seems to be a well needed rest.

Peace out “Bro”

random guy
Guest
random guy
12 years ago
Reply to  G.I.B.

It’s an irrifutable fact that you’re a career troll, faking your personality to stir shit. LAST WORD, TROLL ASS!

Forest Queen
Guest
12 years ago

Moooooooo. “Please Mas tah don’t do blah, blah, blah.” This week a man was murdered in Arizona, because he asked to see the warrant! My dear friends, we are in a ‘Police STATE.’ Change isn’t happening to us. We ARE the change. Administration’s DEBT/Code collection does not apply to me. Why? BEEcause I do am not employed by CA.INC. I also don’t have to FOLLOW McDonald’s rules. Why? BEEcause I do not work at McDonalds. 50% off, like a sale!! Help Me Rhonda! I’m wondering just how do any one of us pay a debt with a debt? FEDERAL (not) Reserve (obviously not) Notes (can be written on t.p) FRN’s are debt notes. Is that you? The NAME on the ‘bill?’ A so-called ‘bill’ has no charge until we give it, by SIGNING the NAME. Who or what it is that’s above you that you beLIEve you have to have THEIR permission? “What’s your dog’s Name?” “I don’t know but we call her Daisy.”

G.I.B.
Guest
G.I.B.
12 years ago
Reply to  Forest Queen

Are you referring to the Officer that shot a man and his dog? That was one bad cop who seems to have lost it and gone over the edge.

The vast majority of folks working in law enforcement have a professional attitude and want to do the right thing. We often take these dedicated people for granted.

I just have to disagree with you about America being a police state. Check this out. How many were killed in Syria last week for protesting. Approximatelty400. It’s been going on for months. Try protesting in Iran or Communist China, just to name a few of the real police states.

Now relocate “The Clock” in Garberville, where folks protest every week, to North Korea. They’d be killed or moved to a forced labor camp and worked to death, for daring to disagree with their government.

You get my drift. We aren’t perfect and that Arizona police officer is probably guilty of murder but a “Police State”, not even close.

Forest Queen
Guest
12 years ago
Reply to  G.I.B.

GIB – roll over and go back to sleep.

G.I.B.
Guest
G.I.B.
12 years ago
Reply to  G.I.B.

I contribute irrefutable facts for discussion and you respond with a rude comment. Why?

That’s a very immature way to disagree FQ. You could learn a lesson from Tom Seboum’s mature, appropriate and informative response.

Forest Queen
Guest
12 years ago
Reply to  G.I.B.

I apologize for my cynicism, it must be showing.

random guy
Guest
random guy
12 years ago
Reply to  G.I.B.

“I contribute irrefutable facts for discussion and you respond with a rude comment. Why?”

because your a stoopid moran. I’ll second the notion: naptime for you.

Staff
Member
12 years ago
Reply to  random guy

Disagreement is fertilizer for new ideas. Insults are fertilizers for rage. Please, disagree vehemently. Don’t use insults.

random guy
Guest
random guy
12 years ago
Reply to  Staff

It all means the same thing. If the power of words can overcome the power of the meaning behind them so easily, woes be us all. Lookut GIB’s tripe, he’s intentionally fishing for it. I’ll play only to tell it like it is.

“irrefutable facts”, go back to sleep.

Shortjohnson
Guest
Shortjohnson
9 years ago
Reply to  Staff

Only a few days in and your back to your old job of policing the forum. Some work never ends.

Staff
Member
9 years ago
Reply to  Shortjohnson

This was from 2011. The intervening posts are temporarily gone. They’ll return soon.

G.I.B.
Guest
G.I.B.
12 years ago
Reply to  random guy

Thank you for the words of wisdom Kym.

As I recall, the original subject was associated with our rights under the First Amendment and freedom of speech.

It’s easy to become cynical but we’re all in this together.

G.I.B.
Guest
G.I.B.
12 years ago
Reply to  random guy

RG…..Was that moran or moron? Learn to spell Bro if you’re going to hurl insults.

Try Kym’s advice.

Believe it or not RG, I wasn’t fishing and I don’t play games. Someone actually has the audacity not to share your opinion. That’s all. You loose respect when you demonize, vilify or hurl insults at those with which you disagree.

random guy
Guest
random guy
12 years ago
Reply to  G.I.B.

Troll me as long as you like “Bro”. The only irrefutable fact about you is the mistake that was your birth. Trolly trolly troll troll…we both know how this works, moran!

G.I.B.
Guest
G.I.B.
12 years ago
Reply to  random guy

RG… If we’re lucky Kym will show you the door sooner than later..

Hiding behind the ether is a perfect venue for people that talk trash and have no respect for themselves or anyone else. Try posting an idea like the person is sitting right next to you. Life is just too short to be so negative and cynical son.

I’ll leave you with this last thought:

Ignoble people try to harm people with whom they disagree; they want to punish and demean them because they lack self respect.

Adults on the other hand respect robust debate and have the courage to state their beliefs without rancor.

Perhaps you should consider backing off on the drugs and give your brain what obviously seems to be a well needed rest.

Peace out “Bro”

random guy
Guest
random guy
12 years ago
Reply to  G.I.B.

It’s an irrifutable fact that you’re a career troll, faking your personality to stir shit. LAST WORD, TROLL ASS!

Forest Queen
Guest
12 years ago

Typo, delete the word ‘do’ in the fourth sentence.

How much longer are some of us going to play act with dead things? Corporation–comes from the word corpse—dead. Hard to communicate with the dead. Why bother? ANYTHING arriving in your mailbox with the NAME on it, is not you…unless you’re dead. Do Not Open!!! Return to Sender. No PERSON here by that NAME. ‘Return for fraud’ & ‘Returned for Cause’ on the reverse of the envelope.
The ’cause?’ IFF tax vehicle code, can THEY prove that you were DRIVING commercially? Are you being paid to travel as a matter of Right and Liberty on our public right-of-way in pursuit of happiness..as mandated by the (Organic) Constitution?

Tom Sebourn
Guest
12 years ago

The courts are broke and need money. Police keep bringing people into the system that is already full at the same time that funding is being cut. There are laws on the books that the police just shouldn’t waste time on. Busting trimmers is one of those. Our DA seems to be pushing this point lately. Law makers should see this train wreck coming and adjust the laws that apply to victimless crimes. Using 50 cops to stop people from camping seems like a waste of money to me. Spending 10-thousand dollars to prosecute a couple of trimmers also seems to be a waste of time and resources. Paul Gallegos says those are the laws that are on the books and he will enforce them. And he will until we are either too broke to do that, or the laws are taken off of the books or changed to simple fines that don’t clog up the courts and jails.

random guy
Guest
random guy
12 years ago
Reply to  Tom Sebourn

“The courts are broke and need money.”

Not really. Too many of the wrong people are being screwed by the courts. Additionally, “court” means traffic court to 98% of us. The court demonstrates no comprehension of everyday life when rolling through a stopsign costs the average person more than a week’s pay, and if for whatever reason there’s a snag in the average person’s ability to pay, the fine more than doubles. Then triples a little while after that and one’s license is revoked, further costing all kinds of fines and fees and time and paperwork to resolve. Police officers’ simple discretion regarding common trafic violations make or break an individual’s finances on a daily basis. This 50% discount won’t even bring the fine back to it’s original amount for most people who are delinquent, or else they wouldn’t be delinquent in the first place.

Tom Sebourn
Guest
12 years ago

The courts are broke and need money. Police keep bringing people into the system that is already full at the same time that funding is being cut. There are laws on the books that the police just shouldn’t waste time on. Busting trimmers is one of those. Our DA seems to be pushing this point lately. Law makers should see this train wreck coming and adjust the laws that apply to victimless crimes. Using 50 cops to stop people from camping seems like a waste of money to me. Spending 10-thousand dollars to prosecute a couple of trimmers also seems to be a waste of time and resources. Paul Gallegos says those are the laws that are on the books and he will enforce them. And he will until we are either too broke to do that, or the laws are taken off of the books or changed to simple fines that don’t clog up the courts and jails.

random guy
Guest
random guy
12 years ago
Reply to  Tom Sebourn

“The courts are broke and need money.”

Not really. Too many of the wrong people are being screwed by the courts. Additionally, “court” means traffic court to 98% of us. The court demonstrates no comprehension of everyday life when rolling through a stopsign costs the average person more than a week’s pay, and if for whatever reason there’s a snag in the average person’s ability to pay, the fine more than doubles. Then triples a little while after that and one’s license is revoked, further costing all kinds of fines and fees and time and paperwork to resolve. Police officers’ simple discretion regarding common trafic violations make or break an individual’s finances on a daily basis. This 50% discount won’t even bring the fine back to it’s original amount for most people who are delinquent, or else they wouldn’t be delinquent in the first place.

G.I.B.
Guest
G.I.B.
12 years ago
Reply to  Tom Sebourn

The group did not respond to requests from administration and campus police to comply with campus rules that exist to protect the health and safety of the entire campus community. The First Amendment isn’t a permit to break the law and violate the rights of others.

Latest poll: 68% oppose occupy protesters, 28% support. The numbers have reversed in only 2 months, due to the violence and millions of dollars in private property damage caused by these vandals. They should occupy congress and the White House and take over.

The true police state of Syria has murdered 4,500 protesters in the last 8 months.

It’s 1969 all over again.

Goodnight Chet.

G.I.B.
Guest
G.I.B.
12 years ago
Reply to  Tom Sebourn

The group did not respond to requests from administration and campus police to comply with campus rules that exist to protect the health and safety of the entire campus community. The First Amendment isn’t a permit to break the law and violate the rights of others.

Latest poll: 68% oppose occupy protesters, 28% support. The numbers have reversed in only 2 months, due to the violence and millions of dollars in private property damage caused by these vandals. They should occupy congress and the White House and take over.

The true police state of Syria has murdered 4,500 protesters in the last 8 months.

It’s 1969 all over again.

Goodnight Chet.

Scob Do
Guest
12 years ago

That is not the best deal going. At any time you can go to the judge when he is in court, Now it is judge Morrison, and he will give you 75% off the price, you just have to wait till your name is called.

Scob Do
Guest
12 years ago

That is not the best deal going. At any time you can go to the judge when he is in court, Now it is judge Morrison, and he will give you 75% off the price, you just have to wait till your name is called.

Forest Queen
Guest
12 years ago

Occupy Your Brain. Who or what is it that you beLIEve you or any one of We the People ‘owe’ $ to? What CRIME was committed? Crime being murder, theft, harming another life form, stealing, cheating, lying. NOT ‘breaching’ an ‘implied’ contract. An invisible contract. An adhesion contract.

Forest Queen
Guest
12 years ago

Occupy Your Brain. Who or what is it that you beLIEve you or any one of We the People ‘owe’ $ to? What CRIME was committed? Crime being murder, theft, harming another life form, stealing, cheating, lying. NOT ‘breaching’ an ‘implied’ contract. An invisible contract. An adhesion contract.

Forest Queen
Guest
12 years ago

…”you JUST HAVE to WAIT, till YOUR NAME is called.” Does the shepherd reply whenever the sheep baaaa? Is that who you/we are? A NAME on a piece of paper?
You have to evidence the two, the living and the dead. STAY OUT of THEIR ‘imagined’ jurisdiction/administration room, labeled court.

Scob Do
Guest
12 years ago
Reply to  Forest Queen

Forest Queen , sometimes you are impossible, You are putting all of society troubles on a traffic ticket. If you drive you are responsible for obeying the traffic laws. Without law we as a people are doomed. This is only about traffic, not your whole world is screwed up trip. G-willikers

random guy
Guest
random guy
12 years ago
Reply to  Scob Do

Traffic fines, as you should know as well, are astronomical compared to 10 years ago. And on the rise every year. Every fee and fine is always on the rise, yet they keep telling us it’s still not enough money for THEM.

Forest Queen
Guest
12 years ago
Reply to  Scob Do

Oh heavens no! I meant only to imply, to not stick head in sand. THERY’RE just ‘carrying-on’ in the Matrix, and it’s now possible to see into the bubble. Into THEIR dilusional bubble…of ‘debt.’ We aren’t short on labor, we aren’t short on intelligence, the rivers flow on down through California. You label my perspective as ‘all-bad’ or something close to that. I don’t remember granting authority to you to arrive at any conclusions regarding myself. Juris means Oath. Diction means to speak. IFF you don’t know any diction, you can’t claim jurisdiction. IFF THEY do not have a contract, THEY do not have evidence for THEIR claim. It’s as simple as that!

Scob Do
Guest
12 years ago
Reply to  Forest Queen

Forest Queen , isn’t a Drivers License a contract with the DMV and the people of California. As we are given a right to drive on public roads for free,or a small DMV fee, in exchange we promise to obey all traffic laws ? Which are applied evenly to everybody. So how does the Matrix and the Bubble come into this ? Why is the Matrix important to me when I drive ? I have never been stopped by the Highway Patrol and asked to recite the Matrix Code, or explain the Bubble, What Gives ?

suzy blah blah
Guest
suzy blah blah
12 years ago
Reply to  Scob Do

-scoob, ive never seen the martrix, except of course the movie, but i HAVE seen the bubble … totally awesome … but one thing 4 sure … yuo dont wnat to see it when yr driving … no way … and beleive me, if you ever DO see it you wont want to explain it to anybody, youll UNDERSTAND, and if theyve ever seen it them selves it theyll understand that you understand … but the matrix to me is still a mystery*

Forest Queen
Guest
12 years ago
Reply to  suzy blah blah

Suzy Blah Blah,
You of all! The Matrix, is ‘like’ a bubble. THEY are continuing the same ol path to destruction, and ‘we’ can see (THEM, inside the bubble) with just more of the same ol, same ol…let’s discuss marijuana for another 15 years! WHAT exactly is IT, that ISN’T known about marijuana in Humboldt? Print in the Times Slandered what the supes blah, blah, about. Who cares? Don’t give THEM any acknowledgment, any of your energy/attention. “It’s just a ride” (you know, Bill Hicks).

suzy blah blah
Guest
suzy blah blah
12 years ago
Reply to  Forest Queen

Forest, Queen, haha, Suzy was of course just pulling scoobys legg a little –he can be pretty funny but sometimes his sarcasm is soooo obvious.
In the meantime, im listening to what yr saying. i think yr smart and brave. Love to hear more.

Forest Queen
Guest
12 years ago
Reply to  suzy blah blah

Smart and brave, thanks. The smart and brave of us, has to have others who know who they are in relation to Big Daddy. The keyboard is mightier than the gun. Done correctly, the de facto courts will acknowledge, and become the de jure courts that we lack at present. IFF our public servants no longer serve us, THEY must be removed.

Scob Do
Guest
12 years ago
Reply to  suzy blah blah

Dear Suzy Blah Blah, I have seen the movie ” Matrix ” I was under the impression that it was Science Fiction , and the Bubble I have no clue what you are talking about, so I guess that means I have never seen one. Are there more than one Bubble ? Does everyone have their own bubble ? Is it something tangible that I can reach out and touch with my human hands ? I would like to know as I feel like the Lone Ranger on this. Also how does this correlate to driving ?

Forest Queen
Guest
12 years ago
Reply to  Scob Do

We can’t see love or joy or peace, however we KNOW they exist. I was trying for a metaphysical describing the Matrix, and I thought ‘bubble’ would serve the purpose.

War is not of humankind’s truism. It’s alien to us. Babies go off to the ‘INFANT ry’ to be brainwashed and formed into ‘military machines,’ no questions asked, just
f o l l o w orders of some psycho commander. Each of us has free will. The word ‘no’ works.
Read THEIR debt/codes regarding vehicle. ALL licensing and REGIStration pays the salaries of the Administrators, to…well, administer. Frankly, I’m capable of traveling on down the hwy. w/o any interveners who beLIEVE that THEY possess some magical authority just because THEY are wearing a costume. I wasn’t born with a picture I.D. I don’t need a third-party interloper, labeled insurance, to be my backup IFF I ‘accident.’ THERE ARE NO ACCIDENTS. I am responsible for all of my actions.

Forest Queen
Guest
12 years ago
Reply to  Scob Do

The Matrix code, that’s funny. Matrix is, the Mother of all tricks. And, the trick, it seems, is on us. We’ve been asleep at the wheel too long. A DRIVER’S license, first, is THEIRS – (CA.INC.) ONLY Commercial DRIVERS must possess a d/l. No one is paying me to travel in my pursuit of happiness, which is a right and mandated by the Constitution(s). Contract–capacity, consent, consideration and a lawful object. “legal’–TAX words on paper. ‘Law’ – not tangible, we all perceive as morality. Capacity, were any of us 21 when we got THEIR driver’s permit? (skip that one, obviously we’re all past 21 now). OR, capacity on THEIR part…corporations are w/out arms/hands to sign a contract. Consent, would you have signed-up on your own free will to pay an ever enlarging TAX into your future, had you have known that a privilege is taxable and a right is not?
We must lean to speak a language that better serves us. Consideration, techniquely, we ‘discharged’ debt into the future by using Ceasar’s debt notes. So, r e a l consideration didn’t actually take place. Consideration being something of worth actually traded hands -gold, silver, heck, salt, honey–something of worth, not valueless federal reserve notes in exchange for something that is of no ‘charge’ in the first place! So, there was no ‘lawful’ object.
The Matrix is important to be able to identify what IT is and how to disconnect your battery cables to it, to stop supporting our own demise. “Render unto Ceasar what belongs to Ceasar.” Give back the fraud. STOP discharging debt into the future.
A contract operates on two principles: meeting-of-the-mind and performance. There’s no meeting-of-the-mind with a fiction, a corporation.

Forest Queen
Guest
12 years ago

…”you JUST HAVE to WAIT, till YOUR NAME is called.” Does the shepherd reply whenever the sheep baaaa? Is that who you/we are? A NAME on a piece of paper?
You have to evidence the two, the living and the dead. STAY OUT of THEIR ‘imagined’ jurisdiction/administration room, labeled court.

Scob Do
Guest
12 years ago
Reply to  Forest Queen

Forest Queen , sometimes you are impossible, You are putting all of society troubles on a traffic ticket. If you drive you are responsible for obeying the traffic laws. Without law we as a people are doomed. This is only about traffic, not your whole world is screwed up trip. G-willikers

random guy
Guest
random guy
12 years ago
Reply to  Scob Do

Traffic fines, as you should know as well, are astronomical compared to 10 years ago. And on the rise every year. Every fee and fine is always on the rise, yet they keep telling us it’s still not enough money for THEM.

Forest Queen
Guest
12 years ago
Reply to  Scob Do

Oh heavens no! I meant only to imply, to not stick head in sand. THERY’RE just ‘carrying-on’ in the Matrix, and it’s now possible to see into the bubble. Into THEIR dilusional bubble…of ‘debt.’ We aren’t short on labor, we aren’t short on intelligence, the rivers flow on down through California. You label my perspective as ‘all-bad’ or something close to that. I don’t remember granting authority to you to arrive at any conclusions regarding myself. Juris means Oath. Diction means to speak. IFF you don’t know any diction, you can’t claim jurisdiction. IFF THEY do not have a contract, THEY do not have evidence for THEIR claim. It’s as simple as that!

Scob Do
Guest
12 years ago
Reply to  Forest Queen

Forest Queen , isn’t a Drivers License a contract with the DMV and the people of California. As we are given a right to drive on public roads for free,or a small DMV fee, in exchange we promise to obey all traffic laws ? Which are applied evenly to everybody. So how does the Matrix and the Bubble come into this ? Why is the Matrix important to me when I drive ? I have never been stopped by the Highway Patrol and asked to recite the Matrix Code, or explain the Bubble, What Gives ?

suzy blah blah
Guest
suzy blah blah
12 years ago
Reply to  Scob Do

-scoob, ive never seen the martrix, except of course the movie, but i HAVE seen the bubble … totally awesome … but one thing 4 sure … yuo dont wnat to see it when yr driving … no way … and beleive me, if you ever DO see it you wont want to explain it to anybody, youll UNDERSTAND, and if theyve ever seen it them selves it theyll understand that you understand … but the matrix to me is still a mystery*

Forest Queen
Guest
12 years ago
Reply to  suzy blah blah

Suzy Blah Blah,
You of all! The Matrix, is ‘like’ a bubble. THEY are continuing the same ol path to destruction, and ‘we’ can see (THEM, inside the bubble) with just more of the same ol, same ol…let’s discuss marijuana for another 15 years! WHAT exactly is IT, that ISN’T known about marijuana in Humboldt? Print in the Times Slandered what the supes blah, blah, about. Who cares? Don’t give THEM any acknowledgment, any of your energy/attention. “It’s just a ride” (you know, Bill Hicks).

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12 years ago
Reply to  Forest Queen

Forest, Queen, haha, Suzy was of course just pulling scoobys legg a little –he can be pretty funny but sometimes his sarcasm is soooo obvious.
In the meantime, im listening to what yr saying. i think yr smart and brave. Love to hear more.

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12 years ago
Reply to  suzy blah blah

Smart and brave, thanks. The smart and brave of us, has to have others who know who they are in relation to Big Daddy. The keyboard is mightier than the gun. Done correctly, the de facto courts will acknowledge, and become the de jure courts that we lack at present. IFF our public servants no longer serve us, THEY must be removed.

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12 years ago
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Dear Suzy Blah Blah, I have seen the movie ” Matrix ” I was under the impression that it was Science Fiction , and the Bubble I have no clue what you are talking about, so I guess that means I have never seen one. Are there more than one Bubble ? Does everyone have their own bubble ? Is it something tangible that I can reach out and touch with my human hands ? I would like to know as I feel like the Lone Ranger on this. Also how does this correlate to driving ?

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12 years ago
Reply to  Scob Do

We can’t see love or joy or peace, however we KNOW they exist. I was trying for a metaphysical describing the Matrix, and I thought ‘bubble’ would serve the purpose.

War is not of humankind’s truism. It’s alien to us. Babies go off to the ‘INFANT ry’ to be brainwashed and formed into ‘military machines,’ no questions asked, just
f o l l o w orders of some psycho commander. Each of us has free will. The word ‘no’ works.
Read THEIR debt/codes regarding vehicle. ALL licensing and REGIStration pays the salaries of the Administrators, to…well, administer. Frankly, I’m capable of traveling on down the hwy. w/o any interveners who beLIEVE that THEY possess some magical authority just because THEY are wearing a costume. I wasn’t born with a picture I.D. I don’t need a third-party interloper, labeled insurance, to be my backup IFF I ‘accident.’ THERE ARE NO ACCIDENTS. I am responsible for all of my actions.

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12 years ago
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The Matrix code, that’s funny. Matrix is, the Mother of all tricks. And, the trick, it seems, is on us. We’ve been asleep at the wheel too long. A DRIVER’S license, first, is THEIRS – (CA.INC.) ONLY Commercial DRIVERS must possess a d/l. No one is paying me to travel in my pursuit of happiness, which is a right and mandated by the Constitution(s). Contract–capacity, consent, consideration and a lawful object. “legal’–TAX words on paper. ‘Law’ – not tangible, we all perceive as morality. Capacity, were any of us 21 when we got THEIR driver’s permit? (skip that one, obviously we’re all past 21 now). OR, capacity on THEIR part…corporations are w/out arms/hands to sign a contract. Consent, would you have signed-up on your own free will to pay an ever enlarging TAX into your future, had you have known that a privilege is taxable and a right is not?
We must lean to speak a language that better serves us. Consideration, techniquely, we ‘discharged’ debt into the future by using Ceasar’s debt notes. So, r e a l consideration didn’t actually take place. Consideration being something of worth actually traded hands -gold, silver, heck, salt, honey–something of worth, not valueless federal reserve notes in exchange for something that is of no ‘charge’ in the first place! So, there was no ‘lawful’ object.
The Matrix is important to be able to identify what IT is and how to disconnect your battery cables to it, to stop supporting our own demise. “Render unto Ceasar what belongs to Ceasar.” Give back the fraud. STOP discharging debt into the future.
A contract operates on two principles: meeting-of-the-mind and performance. There’s no meeting-of-the-mind with a fiction, a corporation.

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well,live in Bayside-do not drive a car-pedal-had a flat,so put the bike in the tree’s along 101,tire in hand ,a walk of two mile or so-the C-H-P came by,thought cool,am a old guy ,over the years, long ago,as long as wasn’t robing,molesting,looking to be a problem every thing okay-no more-to make a long story short-even the judge asked what the heck was a ticket given,why was back up called(would not sign ticket)yet,chose not to reply to the Eureka count judge who through it out-the lesson for me was, it is a new era-lost respect for the C-H-P-felt the judge did not need to keep asking what my thought was-even in the hallway some deputy asked-nuttiin to say,me learned-

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12 years ago

CHP recruits right out of the military, wages start at $50k (four grand per month) and they’re all relocated. They’re military drones with no local affiliation. CHP is the biggest gang in California.

Forest Queen
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12 years ago

J.markoUnknown,

Thank you.

j.marko unknown (@obtusemental2)
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well,live in Bayside-do not drive a car-pedal-had a flat,so put the bike in the tree’s along 101,tire in hand ,a walk of two mile or so-the C-H-P came by,thought cool,am a old guy ,over the years, long ago,as long as wasn’t robing,molesting,looking to be a problem every thing okay-no more-to make a long story short-even the judge asked what the heck was a ticket given,why was back up called(would not sign ticket)yet,chose not to reply to the Eureka count judge who through it out-the lesson for me was, it is a new era-lost respect for the C-H-P-felt the judge did not need to keep asking what my thought was-even in the hallway some deputy asked-nuttiin to say,me learned-

random guy
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random guy
12 years ago

CHP recruits right out of the military, wages start at $50k (four grand per month) and they’re all relocated. They’re military drones with no local affiliation. CHP is the biggest gang in California.

Forest Queen
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12 years ago

J.markoUnknown,

Thank you.

Forest Queen
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12 years ago

DON’T MAKE ANOTHER ‘PAYMENT’ TO A BANK OR CREDIT CARD
How much money do banks or credit card companies say you owe them? How much of that debt did you accrue buying things you think should be available to everyone, like housing, health care, education? How much happier would you, your family, and your community be if you didn’t have to make those payments? How much better would society be if it wasn’t structured around a debt game, where there are winners and losers, and the losers don’t always get to eat? what if instead we worked together to take care of each other and meet all of our needs cooperatively THEY might tell you this idea is fantasy, but it’s your debts that are the fantasy, manufactured out of a few numbers in a computer somewhere. The same goes for the credit rating that THEY threaten to lower if you don’t pay. It’s a game of make beLIEve we have all been tricked into playing. When you stop paying, you might want to send a letter explaining why. Following is an example that you can use, modify or ignore, IFF you want to stop the debt game, reproduce and share. The more we think, talk and act of this, the sooner it becomes our collective reality.THEY ONLY HAVE THE POWER OUR $ GIVES THEM: JUST STOP PAYING.

Forest Queen
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12 years ago

Dear
I am writing to let you know that I will no longer be making payments for the debts you think that I owe. It is not simply that I do not have the money to pay: I no loner recognize your right to demand anything from me. I have also realized that giving money to you would not serve my health or happiness, or that of my family, my community, humanity, or the planet.
I admit that you had me fooled for awhile. There were moments when I actually allowed myself to think that a credit score had something to do with my worth as one of humankind. I guess it was all of those shiny possessions flashed in front of me that clouded my vision: SUV’s, cell phones, personal computers, boats, and big new homes with two car garages. When I thought that I could easily have those things, I didn’t see that your debt game inherently involved winners and losers. I didn’t realize that having a lot of toys requires ecological devastation and increased impoverishment and misery for poorer countries and poor communities in my own country.
But now, (Restore the Republic,) the saints are now marching in. I see now that it’s both morally wrong and downright un-enjoyable to live in a society based completely on a game where there are winners and losers, and the losers don’t get access to food, shelter, or health care.
I won’t play your debt game anymore. The money you think people owe you is a fantasy. And the sooner humankind stops beLIEving that fantasy, and playing that game, the sooner we can get on with the more important business of building a world where everyone has access to food, shelter, health care, education, meaningful work, and human dignity. To this end I am not give you my money anymore—and I’m not the only one of us.
Because you are people w/ the same basic human needs and the same capacity for sadness and joy as myself, I invite you to join me in ending the debt game and creating a beautiful new world. Anyone who stands will not be satisfied until the institution that you serve is totally and permanently abolished.

Sincerely,

Scob Do
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12 years ago
Reply to  Forest Queen

Forest Queen , I pay my credit card bills because I made an agreement with the bank, to me it does not matter that much if the organization is evil or not, I pay them because I gave my word, and that is worth more than anything. Your integrity is much more valuable than a protest against a bank, evil or not. It is really convenient to take something from somebody and then declare out of some form of self righteousness, that they are evil and you do not owe them anymore.

Forest Queen
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12 years ago
Reply to  Scob Do

You made an agreement with the banksters? In that agreement were you made aware that banks do not lend money? Your dealing with thieves, fraud and deceit. THEY brought NOTHING to the table. YOU agreed to ‘pay’ an interest amount. ‘Interest’ is not even a part of the equation, as ‘interest $’ is never printed/made into matter, the physical. Why would you trust so blindly those who have demonstrated so completely their untrustworthiness? THEY are in the Matrix and cannot see the light of truth. You have the opportunity…as the truth shall set us free. It’s an open secret.

Forest Queen
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12 years ago
Reply to  Scob Do

Self righteous..hmmm. No, rather, endowed with un a lien able rights, as we all are.

Forest Queen
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12 years ago

DON’T MAKE ANOTHER ‘PAYMENT’ TO A BANK OR CREDIT CARD
How much money do banks or credit card companies say you owe them? How much of that debt did you accrue buying things you think should be available to everyone, like housing, health care, education? How much happier would you, your family, and your community be if you didn’t have to make those payments? How much better would society be if it wasn’t structured around a debt game, where there are winners and losers, and the losers don’t always get to eat? what if instead we worked together to take care of each other and meet all of our needs cooperatively THEY might tell you this idea is fantasy, but it’s your debts that are the fantasy, manufactured out of a few numbers in a computer somewhere. The same goes for the credit rating that THEY threaten to lower if you don’t pay. It’s a game of make beLIEve we have all been tricked into playing. When you stop paying, you might want to send a letter explaining why. Following is an example that you can use, modify or ignore, IFF you want to stop the debt game, reproduce and share. The more we think, talk and act of this, the sooner it becomes our collective reality.THEY ONLY HAVE THE POWER OUR $ GIVES THEM: JUST STOP PAYING.

Forest Queen
Guest
12 years ago

Dear
I am writing to let you know that I will no longer be making payments for the debts you think that I owe. It is not simply that I do not have the money to pay: I no loner recognize your right to demand anything from me. I have also realized that giving money to you would not serve my health or happiness, or that of my family, my community, humanity, or the planet.
I admit that you had me fooled for awhile. There were moments when I actually allowed myself to think that a credit score had something to do with my worth as one of humankind. I guess it was all of those shiny possessions flashed in front of me that clouded my vision: SUV’s, cell phones, personal computers, boats, and big new homes with two car garages. When I thought that I could easily have those things, I didn’t see that your debt game inherently involved winners and losers. I didn’t realize that having a lot of toys requires ecological devastation and increased impoverishment and misery for poorer countries and poor communities in my own country.
But now, (Restore the Republic,) the saints are now marching in. I see now that it’s both morally wrong and downright un-enjoyable to live in a society based completely on a game where there are winners and losers, and the losers don’t get access to food, shelter, or health care.
I won’t play your debt game anymore. The money you think people owe you is a fantasy. And the sooner humankind stops beLIEving that fantasy, and playing that game, the sooner we can get on with the more important business of building a world where everyone has access to food, shelter, health care, education, meaningful work, and human dignity. To this end I am not give you my money anymore—and I’m not the only one of us.
Because you are people w/ the same basic human needs and the same capacity for sadness and joy as myself, I invite you to join me in ending the debt game and creating a beautiful new world. Anyone who stands will not be satisfied until the institution that you serve is totally and permanently abolished.

Sincerely,

Scob Do
Guest
12 years ago
Reply to  Forest Queen

Forest Queen , I pay my credit card bills because I made an agreement with the bank, to me it does not matter that much if the organization is evil or not, I pay them because I gave my word, and that is worth more than anything. Your integrity is much more valuable than a protest against a bank, evil or not. It is really convenient to take something from somebody and then declare out of some form of self righteousness, that they are evil and you do not owe them anymore.

Forest Queen
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12 years ago
Reply to  Scob Do

You made an agreement with the banksters? In that agreement were you made aware that banks do not lend money? Your dealing with thieves, fraud and deceit. THEY brought NOTHING to the table. YOU agreed to ‘pay’ an interest amount. ‘Interest’ is not even a part of the equation, as ‘interest $’ is never printed/made into matter, the physical. Why would you trust so blindly those who have demonstrated so completely their untrustworthiness? THEY are in the Matrix and cannot see the light of truth. You have the opportunity…as the truth shall set us free. It’s an open secret.

Forest Queen
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12 years ago
Reply to  Scob Do

Self righteous..hmmm. No, rather, endowed with un a lien able rights, as we all are.

RefFan
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RefFan
12 years ago

Forest Queen is a worthless Troll who likes to buy stuff with credit cards and then turns around and blames the cc company for making her responsible for those charges. Just about every post I’ve read from her is blubberish nonsense and she is living in her own UN-fantasy world. Dont keep feeding the trolls, plz.

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G.I.B.
12 years ago
Reply to  RefFan

Agreed 🙂

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random guy
12 years ago
Reply to  G.I.B.

Birds of a feather…

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12 years ago
Reply to  random guy

I should change that to “Trolls of a feather”. Of a mealy scale more like it. The birds around here are alright.

Forest Queen
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12 years ago
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I have no credit cards. IFF you read my posts you’ll see that I blame no one, except We the People. I do not feed Revenue Trolls, that you may refer to, incorrectly, as
l a w en force ment.

Kym…

RefFan
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RefFan
12 years ago

Forest Queen is a worthless Troll who likes to buy stuff with credit cards and then turns around and blames the cc company for making her responsible for those charges. Just about every post I’ve read from her is blubberish nonsense and she is living in her own UN-fantasy world. Dont keep feeding the trolls, plz.

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G.I.B.
12 years ago
Reply to  RefFan

Agreed 🙂

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random guy
12 years ago
Reply to  G.I.B.

Birds of a feather…

random guy
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random guy
12 years ago
Reply to  random guy

I should change that to “Trolls of a feather”. Of a mealy scale more like it. The birds around here are alright.

Forest Queen
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12 years ago
Reply to  RefFan

I have no credit cards. IFF you read my posts you’ll see that I blame no one, except We the People. I do not feed Revenue Trolls, that you may refer to, incorrectly, as
l a w en force ment.

Kym…