Got a 215? Then You Can't Have A 22 or…

A week ago, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives issued a letter that said all medical marijuana card holders may not own a gun. To quote, “…if you are aware that the potential transferee is in possession of a card authorizing the possession and use of marijuana under State law, then you have “reasonable cause to believe” that the person is an unlawful user of a controlled substance. As such, you may not transfer firearms or ammunition to the person… .”

Of course, this is unlikely to stop country folk from possessing a gun but it will give the legal system one more hammer to hit a grower with.

UPDATE: The Redding Searchlight has a good article on this.

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  • But if you are a raging prescription taking alchoholic… no problem buying and loading that semi auto Glock.

  • But if you are a raging prescription taking alchoholic… no problem buying and loading that semi auto Glock.

  • is that a CZ rifle in your picture?

  • is that a CZ rifle in your picture?

  • California should attempt to pass a bill similar to Montana’s http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/2011/BillHtml/SB0114.htm Lawmaker’s new proposal would hit feds with charges. A new legislative proposal would declare that the state’s local county sheriffs are the pre-eminent law enforcement authority in their jurisdictions, and federal agents such as those working for the Internal Revenue Service, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Drug Enforcement Administration, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and others, would be required to get permission from them before they could take any action. Local Sherrif would be able to deny all federal douchebags. http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=250317

  • California should attempt to pass a bill similar to Montana’s http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/2011/BillHtml/SB0114.htm Lawmaker’s new proposal would hit feds with charges. A new legislative proposal would declare that the state’s local county sheriffs are the pre-eminent law enforcement authority in their jurisdictions, and federal agents such as those working for the Internal Revenue Service, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Drug Enforcement Administration, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and others, would be required to get permission from them before they could take any action. Local Sherrif would be able to deny all federal douchebags. http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=250317

  • So, how exactly is this not in conflict with the second amendment? But it is a “safety concern” so people will accept it.

  • So, how exactly is this not in conflict with the second amendment? But it is a “safety concern” so people will accept it.

  • “A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” — George Washington

  • “A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” — George Washington

  • The Emperor Wears No Clothes. The absurdity of ATF’s letter is evident. I’ve never been questioned by a gun dealer as to whether I had a 215. The questions are on the form and it’s up to the individual in California to interpret that they are not illegally using a controlled substance.

    Seems like another round of hot air to be ignored that’s part of the campaign by the Department of Injustice in D.C. to bully California. Remember the threatening letter from the U.S. attorney this summer?

    What seems to be working is the unspoken policy of don’t ask-don’t tell. Anything more than a token enforcement of this would have serious political blowback and become an election issue. I just see it as a scare tactic, because this is not a fight they can win.

    Federal Laws trump State Laws according to the Supreme Court, yet here we are 15 years after the passage of Proposition 215 in California with a 56% voter approval and the Federal government has yet to mount a serious challenge. It’s too politically risky for the Obama administration to upset the most populous state with 55 Electoral College votes and 53 Congressional representatives at stake.

  • The Emperor Wears No Clothes. The absurdity of ATF’s letter is evident. I’ve never been questioned by a gun dealer as to whether I had a 215. The questions are on the form and it’s up to the individual in California to interpret that they are not illegally using a controlled substance.

    Seems like another round of hot air to be ignored that’s part of the campaign by the Department of Injustice in D.C. to bully California. Remember the threatening letter from the U.S. attorney this summer?

    What seems to be working is the unspoken policy of don’t ask-don’t tell. Anything more than a token enforcement of this would have serious political blowback and become an election issue. I just see it as a scare tactic, because this is not a fight they can win.

    Federal Laws trump State Laws according to the Supreme Court, yet here we are 15 years after the passage of Proposition 215 in California with a 56% voter approval and the Federal government has yet to mount a serious challenge. It’s too politically risky for the Obama administration to upset the most populous state with 55 Electoral College votes and 53 Congressional representatives at stake.

  • Who was it that said, “I’ll give up my weed when they pry my cold dead fingers away from it”.

  • Who was it that said, “I’ll give up my weed when they pry my cold dead fingers away from it”.

  • This era seems a bit odd-the A T F sells guns to few gangster cartels etc..headline news on mayhem,tell of zoloft haze or prozak etc…yet must trust the intention of the global corporate state-the full moon is coming up,harvest & some winter meat-

  • This era seems a bit odd-the A T F sells guns to few gangster cartels etc..headline news on mayhem,tell of zoloft haze or prozak etc…yet must trust the intention of the global corporate state-the full moon is coming up,harvest & some winter meat-

  • so if I have a Rx for codeine can I own a gun. Can the dr. who uses cocaine in his practice own a gun. this is as absurd as gov. saying how much medicine a person needs

  • so if I have a Rx for codeine can I own a gun. Can the dr. who uses cocaine in his practice own a gun. this is as absurd as gov. saying how much medicine a person needs

  • I suspect that it has more to do with marjuana cltivation being a felony, and felons with firearms. Just saying, don’t kill the messenger…

  • I suspect that it has more to do with marjuana cltivation being a felony, and felons with firearms. Just saying, don’t kill the messenger…

  • That rifle has a beautiful stock.

  • That rifle has a beautiful stock.

  • Another of many unconstitutional assaults on the Bill of Rights. That is a nice stock.

  • Another of many unconstitutional assaults on the Bill of Rights. That is a nice stock.

  • Get a 215, now and forever sign away your personal health, sanity and freedom to the whim of the Government.

    Making money in any way related to Proposition 215? Don’t bash those who would rather not formally register themselves as incompetent drug users. Marijuana belongs to everybody.

  • Get a 215, now and forever sign away your personal health, sanity and freedom to the whim of the Government.

    Making money in any way related to Proposition 215? Don’t bash those who would rather not formally register themselves as incompetent drug users. Marijuana belongs to everybody.

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