Don't Turn Your Gold into Straw–Curing Marijuana

Last Friday, Kevin Jodrey of Humboldt Patient Resource Center (possibly the oldest dispensary in the US) taught the very first class at 707 Cannabis College.  The Class’s theme was ‘You can’t Turn Straw into Gold but You can Turn Gold into Straw.  Jodrey and Joey Burger of Trim Scene Solutions offered a class packed with information on everything from proper fertilizing techniques to machines that can help a marijuana grower.

I can’t possibly relate everything in the class but thought I would  do a quick recap.

First of all the processing room needs to be clean.  No molds and no pet hair, etc.

Cut everything as gently as possible and be sanitary.

Touch as little as possible– which is why a green manicure is often (though not always best.)

If you are wet/green processing, make sure a crew is scheduled so that the plant is dealt with while the leaves are still turgid. Put in racks and lightly move to keep from having a flat area or hang on stem to dry.

The dry process has more leeway.  Hang with all the leaves then process taking off the sun leaves at the same time to minimize handling.  Your crew can come when you have time.

Put in a room that you can control the heat (72 -75 degrees).

When drying, don’t overheat the product or you will cook off the aromatic oils.

If you don’t heat enough though, your weed will have a damp musty smell.

Keep the room at 40-60% humidity.  Allow it to fluctuate throughout a 24 day but not below 40% or you’re cooking off the oils and the stem is still wet–this produces a bud that is crumbly and cheap.  Remember, the turpins are crucial because they make the product taste better.

Drying probably take 5-7 days.

According to Jodrey, “In a perfect world, I like to take [the buds] outside, put ’em on a rack, and let the sun hit ’em for about 40 minutes before they get put away because the sun kicks the shit out of any bacterias that might be present.”

Use turkey bags during your holding process until you know it is dry and stable.  Remember the outside may feel dry but the stems can be wet so “pulse the pot.”  Get it dry, then close it up and let the moisture redistribute. Then reopen and let dry again. Repeating until stable. (6-8 weeks of gently processing produces a cure that is optimum but a decent product can be produced in a week.)

Put the buds in some form of storage.  Turkey bags breath and they are the industry standard but some people like to put the pounds in glass or seal them using nitrogen. Trim Scene had some nice drying racks and sealing machines.

So there are some tips on how to keep your gold glorious from a man with over 30 years of experience. Feel free to add some tips of your own.

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  • Funny, I told my wife about Jodrey’s sun blast. “Haven’t they been in the sun for months?” she asked. Good point. I wonder how much of the class was indoor-oriented… Is there a reason you’d do that with outdoor herb?

  • Funny, I told my wife about Jodrey’s sun blast. “Haven’t they been in the sun for months?” she asked. Good point. I wonder how much of the class was indoor-oriented… Is there a reason you’d do that with outdoor herb?

  • “Terpenes”

  • “Terpenes”

  • I found ti odd that 707, which makes a fuss about being all about outdoor, brought in a guy to promote an expensive machine. Disappointing first class, but I didn’t go to the weekend.

    • I enjoyed the class. I thought demonstrating the machine was a good way of showing people the newest techniques. It might not be for everybody but it is good to know what innovations might be changing up the industry in my opinion.

    • Hey- I am the Director of Education at 707 Cannabis College and I thought I would let you know why we had Joey there at our first class with the commercial sealing machine. I believe that having high quality outdoor sunbud available year round is key to helping end users remember what outdoor cannabis looks, smokes, smells and taste like. That requires really good drying, curing (stabilizing) and long term storage. I think that machines like this one offer the best solution to that longer storage issue.

      Here in Humboldt we are blessed with a perfect cannabis cultivation climate with practically endless micro climates to add a flavor and feel dimension of locale to the sun and sweetness of out door herb. In my mind it would selfish of us not to share that with people in places less blessed. Good longterm storage maximizes our ability to share consistently.

      But in the absence of our blessed climate what are needy folks to do? The best they can and that is grow some mighty fine indoor. When the helicopters were flying, what could we do but go indoors and grow some mighty fine herb. But when you CAN go out, why not go out?
      Our school is about out door, sustainable, organic because we are in HUMBOLDT where
      out door, sustainable, organic has been perfected. Not that all Humboldt weed is sustainable and organic. Far from it. But it could be. That is the deep expertise here.
      When we can offer an indoor class that can show how to produce an acceptably smaller environmental footprint product , we will add an indoor class.

      Thanks for your comment. All feedback helps us to improve our classes. –dk

  • I found ti odd that 707, which makes a fuss about being all about outdoor, brought in a guy to promote an expensive machine. Disappointing first class, but I didn’t go to the weekend.

    • I enjoyed the class. I thought demonstrating the machine was a good way of showing people the newest techniques. It might not be for everybody but it is good to know what innovations might be changing up the industry in my opinion.

    • Hey- I am the Director of Education at 707 Cannabis College and I thought I would let you know why we had Joey there at our first class with the commercial sealing machine. I believe that having high quality outdoor sunbud available year round is key to helping end users remember what outdoor cannabis looks, smokes, smells and taste like. That requires really good drying, curing (stabilizing) and long term storage. I think that machines like this one offer the best solution to that longer storage issue.

      Here in Humboldt we are blessed with a perfect cannabis cultivation climate with practically endless micro climates to add a flavor and feel dimension of locale to the sun and sweetness of out door herb. In my mind it would selfish of us not to share that with people in places less blessed. Good longterm storage maximizes our ability to share consistently.

      But in the absence of our blessed climate what are needy folks to do? The best they can and that is grow some mighty fine indoor. When the helicopters were flying, what could we do but go indoors and grow some mighty fine herb. But when you CAN go out, why not go out?
      Our school is about out door, sustainable, organic because we are in HUMBOLDT where
      out door, sustainable, organic has been perfected. Not that all Humboldt weed is sustainable and organic. Far from it. But it could be. That is the deep expertise here.
      When we can offer an indoor class that can show how to produce an acceptably smaller environmental footprint product , we will add an indoor class.

      Thanks for your comment. All feedback helps us to improve our classes. –dk

  • hello,
    i am kevin the cultivation director for the hprc who taught the class at the 707 cannabis college. i was reading the blog and saw a question that i thought i could help answer.

    even though the plants have been outside for months the molds present have been able to be active due to the high moisture content in the growing marijuana. once the marijuana is dried the uv from the sun kills whatever might remain so the stored product retains the high quality when it was bagged. the sun after the harvest treatment is a sterilization and i bet uv lamps would work too but the sun is free and works well.

    for clarity, we are talking spores that are present in minute quantities, not active mold growth. anything that helps to retain the quality of the product over time when it must be held in storage is always something to consider.

    best,
    kev

  • hello,
    i am kevin the cultivation director for the hprc who taught the class at the 707 cannabis college. i was reading the blog and saw a question that i thought i could help answer.

    even though the plants have been outside for months the molds present have been able to be active due to the high moisture content in the growing marijuana. once the marijuana is dried the uv from the sun kills whatever might remain so the stored product retains the high quality when it was bagged. the sun after the harvest treatment is a sterilization and i bet uv lamps would work too but the sun is free and works well.

    for clarity, we are talking spores that are present in minute quantities, not active mold growth. anything that helps to retain the quality of the product over time when it must be held in storage is always something to consider.

    best,
    kev

  • I’m a add that the sun thing can be and is done with ozone but a good ozone machine costs $300 and outdoor growers almost never got one where indoor growers better have one if they are smart. Also in the typical curing shack ain’t nobody running ozone so most folks hang it outside first.

    It’s always amusing to me people who make these comments about weed with some kinna “truthiness” feel-good perspective yet know jack shit about what they speak on. Kev is $$ with the sun thing, believe that.

  • I’m a add that the sun thing can be and is done with ozone but a good ozone machine costs $300 and outdoor growers almost never got one where indoor growers better have one if they are smart. Also in the typical curing shack ain’t nobody running ozone so most folks hang it outside first.

    It’s always amusing to me people who make these comments about weed with some kinna “truthiness” feel-good perspective yet know jack shit about what they speak on. Kev is $$ with the sun thing, believe that.

  • I do hope your not saying that growing outdoors is the only way to go? As the world as we know it is not built for this! I see your outdoor grows and here out door grows don’t do well at all as a matter of fact we get half the cash for any out door crop as it rains and rain here just when it’s time to harvest ruining the crop. Unless the weather is perfect it won’t work. So all the talk about terpens isn’t going to fly here. So our indoor is amazing and our outdoor sucks! So for us we have done just the opposit we have learned to work indoor and done an amazing job I must say lol.. Not knocking outdoor but in my world it;s not possible. peace

    • I don’t want to fan the flame either, but the running compliment is “dang dude, this outdoor is so good it’s like indoor”, not the other way around. Top quality, shoveled-with-love outdoor marijuana is the best smoke…you can bring everything inside but the sun. All hail those privileged enough to be able to do it. But environmental conditions indoor can be consistently *perfect*, and there is a practical maximum to how much light a plant will use regardless of how much it gets. For an indoor grower to go outside, I would think a huge appreciation for patience (and the omnipotent power of the sun) would develop. For an outdoor grower to go inside, a huge appreciation for the fine tuning of the art would develop. I’ve noticed the outdoor OG’s are the masters of curing. They always have the smoothest smoke. Maybe because traditionally they’ve had to deal with lots of it at a time, so getting it stable for the time it takes to fully process and distribute is critical.

  • I do hope your not saying that growing outdoors is the only way to go? As the world as we know it is not built for this! I see your outdoor grows and here out door grows don’t do well at all as a matter of fact we get half the cash for any out door crop as it rains and rain here just when it’s time to harvest ruining the crop. Unless the weather is perfect it won’t work. So all the talk about terpens isn’t going to fly here. So our indoor is amazing and our outdoor sucks! So for us we have done just the opposit we have learned to work indoor and done an amazing job I must say lol.. Not knocking outdoor but in my world it;s not possible. peace

    • I don’t want to fan the flame either, but the running compliment is “dang dude, this outdoor is so good it’s like indoor”, not the other way around. Top quality, shoveled-with-love outdoor marijuana is the best smoke…you can bring everything inside but the sun. All hail those privileged enough to be able to do it. But environmental conditions indoor can be consistently *perfect*, and there is a practical maximum to how much light a plant will use regardless of how much it gets. For an indoor grower to go outside, I would think a huge appreciation for patience (and the omnipotent power of the sun) would develop. For an outdoor grower to go inside, a huge appreciation for the fine tuning of the art would develop. I’ve noticed the outdoor OG’s are the masters of curing. They always have the smoothest smoke. Maybe because traditionally they’ve had to deal with lots of it at a time, so getting it stable for the time it takes to fully process and distribute is critical.

  • I do hope your not saying that growing outdoors is the only way to go? As the world as we know it is not built for this! I see your outdoor grows and here out door grows don’t do well at all as a matter of fact we get half the cash for any out door crop as it rains and rain here just when it’s time to harvest ruining the crop.

    Rain only ruins a crop if it rains straight through peak ripeness without a day of sun. That shit almost never happens. Most folks “out here” (where are you?) grow strains with a large window of peak ripeness partly for this reason.

    Indoor strains typically do not do well outdoor and vice versa. There are some easyman strains which do well in anything but those don’t get much play anyway.

    Unless the weather is perfect it won’t work.

    You are tripping on this perfect weather shit. Most moldy outdoor weed ime is from rookies or unfit strains. This hill weather right above 40N is as perfect as it gets for weed.

    So all the talk about terpens isn’t going to fly here. So our indoor is amazing and our outdoor sucks!

    The indoor in Humboldt ain’t amazing. I’ve had better shit in Florida. Wisconsin and Rhode Island indoor are good too. Folks grow indoor in Holland just as well as here. Ain’t no geography to that shit. Can’t attach the Humboldt brand to some lamps.

    So for us we have done just the opposit we have learned to work indoor and done an amazing job I must say lol.. Not knocking outdoor but in my world it;s not possible. peace

    Ain’t nobody learned growing indoor because of rain, they did it because of low-flying planes and helicopters.

    • Mr. Nice, as usual you have some wisdom. I appreciate that. I especially liked how you pointed out that a rain doesn’t necessarily mean the grower has to harvest. A few days of sunshine following the rain will usually make an early harvest unnecessary.

  • I do hope your not saying that growing outdoors is the only way to go? As the world as we know it is not built for this! I see your outdoor grows and here out door grows don’t do well at all as a matter of fact we get half the cash for any out door crop as it rains and rain here just when it’s time to harvest ruining the crop.

    Rain only ruins a crop if it rains straight through peak ripeness without a day of sun. That shit almost never happens. Most folks “out here” (where are you?) grow strains with a large window of peak ripeness partly for this reason.

    Indoor strains typically do not do well outdoor and vice versa. There are some easyman strains which do well in anything but those don’t get much play anyway.

    Unless the weather is perfect it won’t work.

    You are tripping on this perfect weather shit. Most moldy outdoor weed ime is from rookies or unfit strains. This hill weather right above 40N is as perfect as it gets for weed.

    So all the talk about terpens isn’t going to fly here. So our indoor is amazing and our outdoor sucks!

    The indoor in Humboldt ain’t amazing. I’ve had better shit in Florida. Wisconsin and Rhode Island indoor are good too. Folks grow indoor in Holland just as well as here. Ain’t no geography to that shit. Can’t attach the Humboldt brand to some lamps.

    So for us we have done just the opposit we have learned to work indoor and done an amazing job I must say lol.. Not knocking outdoor but in my world it;s not possible. peace

    Ain’t nobody learned growing indoor because of rain, they did it because of low-flying planes and helicopters.

    • Mr. Nice, as usual you have some wisdom. I appreciate that. I especially liked how you pointed out that a rain doesn’t necessarily mean the grower has to harvest. A few days of sunshine following the rain will usually make an early harvest unnecessary.

  • hi,
    there was a time in the early part of the 80s when you couldnt sell indoor because it didnt look like outdoor. nobody knew what it was. it just didnt look like what the market was accustomed too. you flash forward to 2010 and the consumer of today doesnt know what outdoor looks like, and most importantly, its medicinal properties and smoking quality.

    helo eradication drove cultivation indoor here in humboldt and the shortage of marijuana nationwide as a result of the war on drugs created the nationwide indoor market. there was no more imported marijuana to satisfy the demand of the consumer and there were limited places where top quality outdoor could be produced and not hit by the eradication teams. this lack of supply drove the prices upward making indoor marijuana cultivation practical from an economic standpoint thus creating the indoor marijuana market. the only marijuana many have seen since that time has been indoor because there was not enough outdoor to satisfy the need anymore.

    how many other commercial plant crops are produced with hid lighting? supplemental lighting in greenhouses when the footcandles were low due to season or weather related issues has been in effect for decades commercially but hid was used supplementaly, not as the prime light source. im not talking marijuana here. im talking commercial ag which is where the hid fixtures that are used as the primary light source for indoor marijuana cultivation are derived from.

    when you consider the cost to produce indoor and the impact it has on the environment from the generation of electricity needed to light the operation you have a product that is extremely costly in many ways. outdoor cultivation does not incur those costs however and if one were to test both products for thc-cbn-cbd levels and enjoyment of the smoking quality id challenge anyone to show me that across the board indoor was a better product in terms of medicinal quality, cost and comparative impact on the environment.

    indoor marijuana cultivation has a definite place in the industry of marijuana cultivation as it allows a consistent supply year round and also allows locations that are not conducive to outdoor cultivation to produce a very good product. there is not enough outdoor production currently in place to satisfy the demands and for the medical user it has to be available in a consistent manner. there is a place and a need for all forms of marijuana cultivation but to say one is best without setting some parameters for that comparison just creates more confusion for the end user.
    best,
    kev

    • Thanks, Kevin. I appreciate you giving us such a thorough comment. I especially appreciate the comments about indoor/outdoor pot. I love both indoor and outdoor growers. I’ve got some good neighbors of both types. I’m uncomfortable with the environmental footprint of indoor marijuana but also I don’t like people getting too self-righteous against indoors. Your comment struck the right balance for me.

      • If you want to snub indoor cultivation altogether, recognize that the maddest of the world’s mad scientists are walking back and forth from breeding room to breeding room as we speak. Indoor clutivators sped up the evolution of the plant exponentially. Outdoor growers promoting their stash is one thing, but they’re shooting themselves in the foot to say indoor growing is bad.

        • Un-named (I like your pseudonym),

          To say that indoor is never necessary is too far to go. To say that it hasn’t resulted in good stuff, would be ridiculous. Indoor genetic work has upped the ante in many ways. But, I do not like the environmental footprint of that way of growing. Not everyone has the sun option but for huge companies like Agra-med to grow indoors a crop that could be put in the sun appalls me.

          • I tried to defend indoor before several times but nobody likes my math.

            I put out there the number of pot smoker months of weed one lamp optimally produces.

            The number is around 30 if we consider the average smoker blows through less than an ounce per month. Divide that by how many watts of 15 average pot smokers otherwise use in 2 months of xbox and refrigeration to arrive at percentage lifestyle watts sucked down as weed. I estimated 500 / (1000 * 15) or about 3% electricity usage due to weed.

            Folks don’t need to stop growing weed indoors, they need to not burn through so much electricity in general

            Again buying eggs is more fucked up electric wise not to mention the chicken shit piles.

            • I haven’t missed your nod to the indoor scene Mr. Nice…that’s an excellent perspective of the comparative “waste” involved with growing inside, my sentiments exactly. It’s a line that divides my own righteousness and hypocricy…that I’m okay with countless small fry indoor growers, but against guerilla growers outside trashing up public land. An out of sight, out of mind thing I guess…

            • I think for me, indoor may be necessary sometimes but there is such an obviously good alternative for many growers–outdoor–that I cringe when people who have an option choose indoor. I also hate that dispensaries (who grow indoor) promote the indoor as the kind. Most customers get their weed through them and are fooled into paying higher prices for a product that is less environmentally sound and, often, not as healthy for the consumer or as tasty.

              • I agree…quality outdoor marijuana should always set the standard, and be “highest price”. Not for bud quality (a tie) but the scales are tipped heavily by environmental impact, and the nonsense that it otherwise has to be grown discreetly indoors despite the widespread demand for it. As it is right now, places where marijuana is growing with the most care and consideration outside are few and far between…marijuana that will be smoked by more than a small circle of people, that is.

  • hi,
    there was a time in the early part of the 80s when you couldnt sell indoor because it didnt look like outdoor. nobody knew what it was. it just didnt look like what the market was accustomed too. you flash forward to 2010 and the consumer of today doesnt know what outdoor looks like, and most importantly, its medicinal properties and smoking quality.

    helo eradication drove cultivation indoor here in humboldt and the shortage of marijuana nationwide as a result of the war on drugs created the nationwide indoor market. there was no more imported marijuana to satisfy the demand of the consumer and there were limited places where top quality outdoor could be produced and not hit by the eradication teams. this lack of supply drove the prices upward making indoor marijuana cultivation practical from an economic standpoint thus creating the indoor marijuana market. the only marijuana many have seen since that time has been indoor because there was not enough outdoor to satisfy the need anymore.

    how many other commercial plant crops are produced with hid lighting? supplemental lighting in greenhouses when the footcandles were low due to season or weather related issues has been in effect for decades commercially but hid was used supplementaly, not as the prime light source. im not talking marijuana here. im talking commercial ag which is where the hid fixtures that are used as the primary light source for indoor marijuana cultivation are derived from.

    when you consider the cost to produce indoor and the impact it has on the environment from the generation of electricity needed to light the operation you have a product that is extremely costly in many ways. outdoor cultivation does not incur those costs however and if one were to test both products for thc-cbn-cbd levels and enjoyment of the smoking quality id challenge anyone to show me that across the board indoor was a better product in terms of medicinal quality, cost and comparative impact on the environment.

    indoor marijuana cultivation has a definite place in the industry of marijuana cultivation as it allows a consistent supply year round and also allows locations that are not conducive to outdoor cultivation to produce a very good product. there is not enough outdoor production currently in place to satisfy the demands and for the medical user it has to be available in a consistent manner. there is a place and a need for all forms of marijuana cultivation but to say one is best without setting some parameters for that comparison just creates more confusion for the end user.
    best,
    kev

    • Thanks, Kevin. I appreciate you giving us such a thorough comment. I especially appreciate the comments about indoor/outdoor pot. I love both indoor and outdoor growers. I’ve got some good neighbors of both types. I’m uncomfortable with the environmental footprint of indoor marijuana but also I don’t like people getting too self-righteous against indoors. Your comment struck the right balance for me.

      • If you want to snub indoor cultivation altogether, recognize that the maddest of the world’s mad scientists are walking back and forth from breeding room to breeding room as we speak. Indoor clutivators sped up the evolution of the plant exponentially. Outdoor growers promoting their stash is one thing, but they’re shooting themselves in the foot to say indoor growing is bad.

        • Un-named (I like your pseudonym),

          To say that indoor is never necessary is too far to go. To say that it hasn’t resulted in good stuff, would be ridiculous. Indoor genetic work has upped the ante in many ways. But, I do not like the environmental footprint of that way of growing. Not everyone has the sun option but for huge companies like Agra-med to grow indoors a crop that could be put in the sun appalls me.

          • I tried to defend indoor before several times but nobody likes my math.

            I put out there the number of pot smoker months of weed one lamp optimally produces.

            The number is around 30 if we consider the average smoker blows through less than an ounce per month. Divide that by how many watts of 15 average pot smokers otherwise use in 2 months of xbox and refrigeration to arrive at percentage lifestyle watts sucked down as weed. I estimated 500 / (1000 * 15) or about 3% electricity usage due to weed.

            Folks don’t need to stop growing weed indoors, they need to not burn through so much electricity in general

            Again buying eggs is more fucked up electric wise not to mention the chicken shit piles.

            • I haven’t missed your nod to the indoor scene Mr. Nice…that’s an excellent perspective of the comparative “waste” involved with growing inside, my sentiments exactly. It’s a line that divides my own righteousness and hypocricy…that I’m okay with countless small fry indoor growers, but against guerilla growers outside trashing up public land. An out of sight, out of mind thing I guess…

            • I think for me, indoor may be necessary sometimes but there is such an obviously good alternative for many growers–outdoor–that I cringe when people who have an option choose indoor. I also hate that dispensaries (who grow indoor) promote the indoor as the kind. Most customers get their weed through them and are fooled into paying higher prices for a product that is less environmentally sound and, often, not as healthy for the consumer or as tasty.

              • I agree…quality outdoor marijuana should always set the standard, and be “highest price”. Not for bud quality (a tie) but the scales are tipped heavily by environmental impact, and the nonsense that it otherwise has to be grown discreetly indoors despite the widespread demand for it. As it is right now, places where marijuana is growing with the most care and consideration outside are few and far between…marijuana that will be smoked by more than a small circle of people, that is.

  • I provide support for both in and outdoor, hydro, aero, fogponics, energy solutions, etc. My aim had always been to add eco-friendly dimentions to both. I found that my outdoor people are best at breeding for their microclimates and indoor is great for reproducing the medicine.

    LED lighting is economical and great for cloning and it keeps long-season farmers growing their best genetics- particularly genetics that they have selected on their own land with the need for a keeper to put in the detailed work of producing starts when the time is right. The previous (un-named) poster mentioned how the two types of farmers are different, one having a special type of patience and the other having a distinctive attention to detail, and I do believe that they can work together in order to yield greater overall success (or at least more vacation time).

  • I provide support for both in and outdoor, hydro, aero, fogponics, energy solutions, etc. My aim had always been to add eco-friendly dimentions to both. I found that my outdoor people are best at breeding for their microclimates and indoor is great for reproducing the medicine.

    LED lighting is economical and great for cloning and it keeps long-season farmers growing their best genetics- particularly genetics that they have selected on their own land with the need for a keeper to put in the detailed work of producing starts when the time is right. The previous (un-named) poster mentioned how the two types of farmers are different, one having a special type of patience and the other having a distinctive attention to detail, and I do believe that they can work together in order to yield greater overall success (or at least more vacation time).

  • Thank you for your super cool site Kym. I think this type of exchange between cultivators and others in the industry is exactly what is needed. We need to be bringing our collective experience to the table and bettering ourselves as a whole,indoor and outdoor, working together. There are too many enemies at the gates for us to be infighting like this. We all have so much to offer each other. If we could put aside our differences , share our “secrets”, and work collectively and cooperatively we could achive any goal we set. ie. lower carbon footprint for indoor, higher market recognition for outdoor, and most important, the creation of “sustainable communnity through sustainable practices”.
    We cultivate both indoor and outdoor. Both are nesassary. We should not be cannabalising one for the benifite of the other, but instead should be bennifiting each from the canna-blessings of the other. One love.
    I would just like to say thank you to the 707 crew for putting it on the table. Classes and workshops like those mentiond are exactly what we need in this industry. Any thing that promotes the proper production ,packaging, handleing and storage practices of cannabis is a good thing and welcomed. Most of the problems facing the dwindling outdoor market (or people facing no market viability weather in/out), in my opinion, can be traced back to these things, or lack ther of. Just as inefficient indoor cultivators require the artificially higher price to make up for there shortcommings. (much like the artificially high prices seen in the mid to late eighties for outdoor due to CAMPs creation and the cultivators established lifestyle costs vs. production ability)Ultimately I think the times are going to force us all to work even harder than we already are in order to merely hold onto what we have now. And part of working hard is studying hard, so I look forward to attending any future classes that you will be offering. As I hope others will too. This is a we thing, not a me thing.
    Thank you.

    • MendoG,

      While I promote outdoor as best practice, I know that some people have no choice but to grow indoor. I like to get the conversation going about what is good growing and the 707 Cannabis College people are going a great job of increasing everyone’s knowledge. Because growers have had to be secretive for so long, information on what are the better ways of doing something can be spotty. This blog works best when people contribute ideas and information. My ideas are changing as I get new input. I hope this site helps others open their minds also.

  • Thank you for your super cool site Kym. I think this type of exchange between cultivators and others in the industry is exactly what is needed. We need to be bringing our collective experience to the table and bettering ourselves as a whole,indoor and outdoor, working together. There are too many enemies at the gates for us to be infighting like this. We all have so much to offer each other. If we could put aside our differences , share our “secrets”, and work collectively and cooperatively we could achive any goal we set. ie. lower carbon footprint for indoor, higher market recognition for outdoor, and most important, the creation of “sustainable communnity through sustainable practices”.
    We cultivate both indoor and outdoor. Both are nesassary. We should not be cannabalising one for the benifite of the other, but instead should be bennifiting each from the canna-blessings of the other. One love.
    I would just like to say thank you to the 707 crew for putting it on the table. Classes and workshops like those mentiond are exactly what we need in this industry. Any thing that promotes the proper production ,packaging, handleing and storage practices of cannabis is a good thing and welcomed. Most of the problems facing the dwindling outdoor market (or people facing no market viability weather in/out), in my opinion, can be traced back to these things, or lack ther of. Just as inefficient indoor cultivators require the artificially higher price to make up for there shortcommings. (much like the artificially high prices seen in the mid to late eighties for outdoor due to CAMPs creation and the cultivators established lifestyle costs vs. production ability)Ultimately I think the times are going to force us all to work even harder than we already are in order to merely hold onto what we have now. And part of working hard is studying hard, so I look forward to attending any future classes that you will be offering. As I hope others will too. This is a we thing, not a me thing.
    Thank you.

    • MendoG,

      While I promote outdoor as best practice, I know that some people have no choice but to grow indoor. I like to get the conversation going about what is good growing and the 707 Cannabis College people are going a great job of increasing everyone’s knowledge. Because growers have had to be secretive for so long, information on what are the better ways of doing something can be spotty. This blog works best when people contribute ideas and information. My ideas are changing as I get new input. I hope this site helps others open their minds also.

  • Folks ain’t gonna work together. Back in the day, when Britain smashed on China, China didn’t give out no damn secrets. Chinese didn’t show no white people how to pick all bud, no leaf, no stem. White people had to send in spies to cop elite strains and cultivation techniques. When they got back to their yard, the shit didn’t grow right. It wasn’t until they gaffled up all of India’s land that the Brits got their own tea.

  • Folks ain’t gonna work together. Back in the day, when Britain smashed on China, China didn’t give out no damn secrets. Chinese didn’t show no white people how to pick all bud, no leaf, no stem. White people had to send in spies to cop elite strains and cultivation techniques. When they got back to their yard, the shit didn’t grow right. It wasn’t until they gaffled up all of India’s land that the Brits got their own tea.

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