Musing on Monday Morning Magazine about Marijuana with DA Gallegos

This Monday at 8 am, Our district attorney, Paul Gallegos will be on Dennis Huber’s KMUD show, Monday Morning Magazine. I’ll be there, too.  We’ll be discussing marijuana issues.

I’ve been asked to bring up the prosecution of small 215 growers but no one seems to be able to give me a good case.  Does anyone have a specific one they want to describe?

Does anyone have other aspects that they would like more information on?  If possible, I’ll try to get a discussion going.

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stopthekillings
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stopthekillings
13 years ago

maybe ask why there are not more open field and large grow fly overs and busts> had the kneeland patch of 1500 + plants been seized, one guatamalan may still be alive, two others uninjured, and a young man might not be facing murder charges…

capdiamont
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13 years ago

How about explaining the felony prosecution of a 215 case, as reported by Tad on his blog?

Mr. Nice
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Mr. Nice
13 years ago

maybe ask why there are not more open field and large grow fly overs and busts> had the kneeland patch of 1500 + plants been seized, one guatamalan may still be alive, two others uninjured, and a young man might not be facing murder charges…

The cops can’t cover every square meter of land and figure out if a weed plant is growing. That’s kinna the whole drug war failure folks harp on.

Think about it from an intelligence perspective. It is easy to spot a 10,000 plant cartel grow with big ass Mexican sativa trees waving in the wind. Even though giant grows are easy targets, the cops still only nab 10-20% of those. Why would more fly overs bust every last stealth grow if they can’t even bust the stadium-sized ones? They wouldn’t and there ain’t enough money to ever come close. The only answer is to make profits so low that nobody fires a shot over 1500 plants.

maybe
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maybe
13 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Nice

I have a hunch they’re not as naive to the overall grow scene as they appear to be, and in one way or another want to get the real bad guys out…the potentially violent, bad drug associating, kleptomaniac crowd…as much as the good guy growers do…

Mr. Nice
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Mr. Nice
13 years ago
Reply to  maybe

They will never bust all 100,000,000 plants in little patches every year. The shit is simply impossible. They have better shit to do. Shit they get grants and forfeitures off of.

Maybe
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Maybe
13 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Nice

True that, Dr. Nice. There was a controversial marijuana bust not too many years ago somewhere in southern california. Cops raided a place, killed a guy based on nothing. Not only was the guy they killed innocent, but the swat team had a property appraiser on hand to calculate the value of all the stuff they were going to take, which included the house and land. The guy had prime acreage they wanted to take on a fake tip…crash-for-cash raids were on their agenda. I’m vague on teh details…might have been late 90’s. At the same time I was reading about that case, I came across the subject of police departments becoming independently (possibly privately) funded…which I was unaware is some technicality in city/state funding vs. their own ability to sustain themselves through fines…and seizures…where it can benefit the department, aka the people who get paid at the department. Crazy stuff.

Julia
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Julia
13 years ago

Kym, Thanks for all you do to promote thoughtful dialog!

Julia
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Julia
13 years ago

Kym, Thanks for all you do to promote thoughtful dialog!

Richard Salzman
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13 years ago

You can support Paul Gallegos by visiting his website http://www.votepaul.org or calling the HQ at 442.9600

(Kym, what is your email so we can send you a press release?)

suzy blah blah
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suzy blah blah
13 years ago

If you click on “about”, upper right, you’ll see that it’s
[email protected].

Richard Salzman
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13 years ago

You can support Paul Gallegos by visiting his website http://www.votepaul.org or calling the HQ at 442.9600

(Kym, what is your email so we can send you a press release?)

suzy blah blah
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suzy blah blah
13 years ago

If you click on “about”, upper right, you’ll see that it’s
[email protected].

anon
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anon
13 years ago

instead of just giving your overall opinion about prop 19 i would have liked to hear what you thought the specific pros and cons were…

anon
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anon
13 years ago

instead of just giving your overall opinion about prop 19 i would have liked to hear what you thought the specific pros and cons were…

Richard Salzman
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Richard Salzman
13 years ago

I can’t speak to the specifics, but I do know that Paul Gallegos opposes prohibition and supports legalization and regulation of MJ, however as a lawyer he does not feel that 19 is a well written law and there for does NOT endorse prop 19. I’m sorry that I don’t know what specifically in the initiative he feels it is that would be problematic if it were to become law, but that’s his position. I would venture to guess that other lawyers, like Eric Kirk or Ed Denson could take a stab at the legal complications that the drafting of this proposed law might present.

Richard Salzman
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Richard Salzman
13 years ago

I can’t speak to the specifics, but I do know that Paul Gallegos opposes prohibition and supports legalization and regulation of MJ, however as a lawyer he does not feel that 19 is a well written law and there for does NOT endorse prop 19. I’m sorry that I don’t know what specifically in the initiative he feels it is that would be problematic if it were to become law, but that’s his position. I would venture to guess that other lawyers, like Eric Kirk or Ed Denson could take a stab at the legal complications that the drafting of this proposed law might present.

Don
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Don
13 years ago

I was disapointed that the subject of spilled diesel fuel and diverted watersheds was not mentioned .

Not Fred
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Not Fred
13 years ago
Reply to  Don

How many diesel spills and diverted watersheds are we talking about, Don? Can you provide a ballpark number, or is it only that you’ve heard of these concerns from various media? Those issues are overblown anti-pot hype, and can be dealt with stricly within the criminal confines of the perpetrators, who are few and far between. It’s like talking about indoor growers who ruin houses. More homes are being ruined by people who don’t grow…growing weed isn’t the issue with property damage…lazy inconsiderate criminal slobs are.

Don
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Don
13 years ago

I was disapointed that the subject of spilled diesel fuel and diverted watersheds was not mentioned .

Not Fred
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Not Fred
13 years ago
Reply to  Don

How many diesel spills and diverted watersheds are we talking about, Don? Can you provide a ballpark number, or is it only that you’ve heard of these concerns from various media? Those issues are overblown anti-pot hype, and can be dealt with stricly within the criminal confines of the perpetrators, who are few and far between. It’s like talking about indoor growers who ruin houses. More homes are being ruined by people who don’t grow…growing weed isn’t the issue with property damage…lazy inconsiderate criminal slobs are.

Don
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Don
13 years ago

How can you put up numbers for clandestine operations , Its kind of like shop lifting only a small percentage get caught . co. health has some numbers but their resouces are so limited they can’t even scratch the surface . If you don’t want to accept that it is happening so be it . But it hurts us all , and any infraction of environmetal law would not be tolerated by a legal business. Fish Rock

Not Fred
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Not Fred
13 years ago
Reply to  Don

good…so it’s clear you have no idea, even ballpark, how many cases this big major issue involves. Want to guess? The amount of ‘legal’ industry in the backwoods is over ten times that of illicit activities, much larger in scale and operating just as discreetly within themselves. Large industries are slapped with fines for destroying habitats, diverting watersheds, etc. every year because they calculated the cost of fines vs. fees beforehand. If and when they’re caught

I’m not trying to be an ass, but I gotta call BS when I read it…you’ve jumped on a finger pointing bandwagon. If you’re really concerned with the importance of the problem, you’re wagging your finger at the wrong people.

Don
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Don
13 years ago

How can you put up numbers for clandestine operations , Its kind of like shop lifting only a small percentage get caught . co. health has some numbers but their resouces are so limited they can’t even scratch the surface . If you don’t want to accept that it is happening so be it . But it hurts us all , and any infraction of environmetal law would not be tolerated by a legal business. Fish Rock

Not Fred
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Not Fred
13 years ago
Reply to  Don

good…so it’s clear you have no idea, even ballpark, how many cases this big major issue involves. Want to guess? The amount of ‘legal’ industry in the backwoods is over ten times that of illicit activities, much larger in scale and operating just as discreetly within themselves. Large industries are slapped with fines for destroying habitats, diverting watersheds, etc. every year because they calculated the cost of fines vs. fees beforehand. If and when they’re caught

I’m not trying to be an ass, but I gotta call BS when I read it…you’ve jumped on a finger pointing bandwagon. If you’re really concerned with the importance of the problem, you’re wagging your finger at the wrong people.

Staff
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13 years ago

Wow, Not Fred, I didn’t read what Don says that way.

I think it is a legitimate concern (Don, I wish we could have discussed this, too.) I don’t know how many spills happen. But I did see Hacker Creek. It was a mess that neighbors and the land owner still have to deal with. Yes, Legal businesses screw the environment but that is no reason to not call out crappy growers also. I’d like growers to take preventative measures, to clean up any accidents that do occur, and if they don’t, then Gallegos should prosecute them–if they can be found.

Staff
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13 years ago

Wow, Not Fred, I didn’t read what Don says that way.

I think it is a legitimate concern (Don, I wish we could have discussed this, too.) I don’t know how many spills happen. But I did see Hacker Creek. It was a mess that neighbors and the land owner still have to deal with. Yes, Legal businesses screw the environment but that is no reason to not call out crappy growers also. I’d like growers to take preventative measures, to clean up any accidents that do occur, and if they don’t, then Gallegos should prosecute them–if they can be found.