Marijuana in the Raw
Kym Kemp / Thursday, May 21, 2009 @ 10:44 p.m. / Daily Photo , marijuana , photo , plants
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Recently, I’ve read a study about eating small marijuana leaves fresh and raw. This is supposed to stimulate our bodies own cannabinoids. Now I can’t find it or any other information except a few allusions in comments by a Dr. Chandler in Mendocino.
I would so much appreciate more information if anyone knows where to find it—preferably scientific studies. Thanks.
Here is a discussion on eating cannabis salad:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=64218&page=2
have a peaceful day,
Bill
My sister pickles green nasturtium seeds and uses them as capers, but she says that you can’t get high on them.
The raw cannabis isn’t for a high. It is supposed to have medicinal qualities without producing a high which is what I am looking for. Someone close to me is interested in the possibilities for their medical condition.
have a peaceful day,
Bill
My favorite quote from issue 146, which is a quote from the winter/spring 2008 issue of Fred Gardner’s clinical journal, “O’Shaughnessy’s ‘Hedonic tone’: ‘Maintaining a “hedonic tone” via a functional endocannabinoid system may be critical for maintaining personal optomism and society productivity in the face of chronic stress and an ultimately unrewarding consumer culture”.
Hedonic toning sounds good to me!
This is a great place “school” and they have so much info. One class is called Cooking/Concentrates 101.
http://www.oaksterdamuniversity.com/
I stopped using pyrolysis for herbal extractions a few years ago and do not miss the charred urine taste or smell. I feel sorry for those who have to burn their herbal remedies due of the high price of precision vaporisation instruments.
When he says “leaves” does he mean any leaves off the plant? Or is it specific leaves, like ones near the top where the flower is? And does it matter how old the plant is? Does it matter if it’s in bloom or veg?
Any help is much appreciated.
Any chance these articles are available online? I’ve been searching and couldn’t find more specifics. I am also interested in exploring the medicinal properties in a raw form.
Blessings - Kirk
I love the weed it tastes delicous.
We just watched a documentary (can’t remember the name) on Hemp. There was a guy in the midwest (total redneck) who’s family used to grow hemp. He was talking about making a meal out of seeds for horse and cow feed. There were several people who had been feeding it to their horses that said the horses did very well and lasted much longer on trail rides while working the cattle. It seems that seeds are a great source of nutrition not only for people but for livestock as well.
Back about 15 years ago a friend of mine that was sellilng hemp clothing (bringing the fabric in from China for manufacture here) was also bringing in 2lb bags of non-fertile seeds. I got a bag and was using them in salads and stuff, grinding them up as a flour substitute….they were great in breads, I don’t know if I gained anything nutritionally…but they were good. He is now locked up for life on “conspiracy” charges so I lost that deal………but wouldn’t mind finding another supplier of seeds for food.
I have been juicing leaves for some time now, It does help with my degenerative condition, I like to mix it with carrot, ( as an additional anti inflammatory), I did not think about the anti depressive aspect, but that makes sense, And I like to add an apple, I dont care for the juice straight, I find it too harsh,
I use a Champion juicer, and you can use thew pulp for baking,make sure you clean your supply, I like to soak and wash them in a vinegar solution to remove any spray residue,
Bon Appetite’
If anyone wants to try this who does NOT want to get high, they should use fresh, green, un-dried, raw leaf — right off the plant (like kale or spinach) and not dry or heat it in any way. I know someone experimenting with eating the fresh raw green flower/bud. She wasn’t sure yet whether there was any noticible high from it (other than a high like you get from eating raw chocolate). There is a substance called anandamide in both raw chocolate and raw cannabis. It makes you feel really good and happy, but not tripped out.
I suppose many would think that is a waste of good bud, but it depends upon what you are trying to accomplish — excellent vibrant health, or a quick high. Who am I to judge??
Cannabis
“Heat takes the whole class of acid molecules— as soon as you heat them, you break off that carboxi group, you produce the 20-carbon molecule (THC,CBD,CBC, CBG). But you lose the medicinal properties of those 21-molecules from the get-go. So… If you simmer it, steep it, saute it, bake it or smoke it you eliminate a whole big portion of this plant that took 34 million years to evolve. We interject our cultural values onto this plant at our own expense and our own detriment.” Dr. William Courtney in The New Settler Interview issue 146.
I am very interested in it because I want to live a long life preferably WITHOUT pharmaceuticals, but I am finding I do need some help, with pain, memory weakening, and so on, and I believe that fresh raw cannabis, consumed daily as I do, might be just the ticket.
Incidentally, Dr. William L. Courtney’s ad in The North Coast Journal reads:
“Clinical Cannabis consultations
Specializing in High Dose, Non-psychoactive & Dietary uses of the whole plant
Traditional THC Dose=10 mg, Non-psychoactive CBD Dose=500 to 1,500 mg
Anti-Inflammatory, Anti-Diabetic, Anti-Arthritic, Anti-Neoplastic
William L. Courtney MD Garberville and Arcata 961-1420”
I began about 1 month ago. I get a boosted feeling from it, not a high but more like caffeine. I have noticed a big difference in my skin which is softer and heals faster. I see other positive signs but cannot be sure they are from the juice as yet. These are feelings of well being and feeling more balanced emotionally. It also seems to be regulating my hormones and it seems to be cleansing my colon. Quite profound and I am recommending that others experiment with it as well.
Thank you so much for giving clear directions.
Reading this, I’m trying to reconcile the use of green leaves with the fact that mostly that will mean indoor grows which are detrimental to the environment. Although I hear deprevators are getting more and more successful.
Getting 3 month old plants midwinter as per Ronit’s instructions would mean indoor plants or a depravator (which is plants grown in the sun but with curtain-like surrounds so that the light could be manipulated to bring the plant to bud in the off season.)
Indoor grows use massive amounts of energy to grow a plant that can be grown outside. That is the major environmental mess they make. Second, diesel spills, electrical fires, moldy and pesticide ridden pot are also more commonly found in indoor. Some conscientious growers do manage indoor organic (Most don’t) however, growing indoors takes huge amounts of energy. Some Grad students at HSU compared Humboldt’s use of energy with California’s as a whole. Until indoor grows became popular, Humboldt’s usage paralleled California’s. But now, Humboldt uses 30% more per capita than does the rest of the state—directly attributable to indoor marijuana grows.
I have found LED’s to be good for babies and sun supplement for sun during veg………
some are even growing as many as 100 plants under just LED’s. i have smoked the finishsed product from under LED’s and didnt really notice a difference. that being said, i still dont know if i am going to choose a LED over a HPS.
anyways i really wanted to comment to kym, have you ever though about making hemp oil? i saw your comment earlier that you wanted to know more about the consumption of leaves, because you knew someone that could possibly benefit.
im sure you have heard of rick simpson and his hemp oil. i have yet to make it(plan to after my first harvest) but from what i understand there are no psychoactive effects, and it has been said to cure cancer! (im sure you know) :)
It seems important to try to help clear things up about hemp oil, simpson oil, etc. A) There is a food grade hemp oil made from seeds that is very nutritious and is sold in lots of natural food stores. No problem with psychoactivity there. B) Rick Simpson has made and has a video about making “hemp oil” which is what he calls the strong concentrate that he makes. It is made the same way as the stuff others call “hash oil”. The name hemp oil is misleading, in my opinion, because it is not the same as hemp seed oil, which is called hemp oil, and it is not even an oil. It is an extremely concentrated distillate of cannabis which is mostly THC — no oil whatsoever. Watching the video, and knowing that you come out with VERY HIGH concentrations of THC, I would caution that it is probably also extremely psychoactive, though he states it just makes you sleepy (understatement, methinks).
There are some pretty good testimonials from people that say it cured their cancers, but we do need to be careful of “research” that is mainly anecdotal evidence presented by someone who created the product. I hope there will be real research on that product as well. It would be hard to create a double blind study — give someone THC and someone else a non-THC placebo and keep them in the dark about whether they have ingested THC or not? I don’t THINK so. I am not saying it doesn’t cure cancer. Just not willing to say it does, at this point.
Neither the hemp (seed oil) nor the simpson concentrate would take the place of fresh leaf and fresh leaf juice, which is entirely different from each of the other things. The fresh leaf has cannabinoids that have not been heated or decarboxlated or dried or smoked or cooked, etc etc. THESE are the substances that are being researched for their incredible nutritional and healing benefits — much like wheat grass juice, for instance. A research study could iindeed include a placebo substitute for fresh cannabis leaf, since the fresh leaf does not have psychotropic qualities.
In my dreams — every community might have a huge deprivator system (now that I know what one is) that manipulates the sunlight and darkness and grows big plants year-round and makes the leaves available at local farmers markets, natural food stores and grocery isles!!
Dr. Courtney’s latest recommendation is that one begin to consume fresh flower as well. Now, that would really be a high-cannabinoid, non-psychoactive food. We just need absolute clarity about what a fresh flower is. It has never been dried, heated, or tampered with in any way. It would be what you would get if you bit the flower off of a growing plant! Crazy, huh? If you goofed up and ate a dried flower, well, then you would possibly be exposing your system to the psychoactive effect.. Not sure on that. Getting a little outside my area of knowledge..
Also about the LED. Heard recently that after a while the lamps burnt up, as they have to stay on for so long.
Hope the technology improves and price drops on LEDS. Again, not quite there yet.
I keep paying attention to the development of LEDs, but the technology doesn’t sound perfected yet. In contrast, my partner’s been using the same CFLs for three growing cycles now, and they continue to work consistently well - cheap to set up, cheap to run, safe to use in small spaces, relatively low energy usage with phenomenally good end results. Ideal for individual use, though probably not as well suited for large-scale production. Maybe, though.
How much leaf does it take to make a therapeutic dose of the juice? (and how much juice is that?) Are we talking small quantities, like a wheatgrass shot? Because that’s still going to take a lot of leaves, if it’s anything like wheatgrass… And can you use the stem, and other parts of the plant?
Thanks a lot-
Laura
So far this week, I’ve juiced 30 leaves, 60 leaves, and now I’m trying 90 today. Besides tasting gross, I don’t really notice any other effects. I try to sip the juice throughout the day. I am also waiting to hear back from the lab about how much cbd is in 30 raw fan leaves.
I’m already thinking that I will need to start juicing the buds and lots of them to get doses of 1000 - 2000 mg CBD.
I’ve started a blog about my diagnosis and this is where I will put up lab results and outcomes of the juicing. I’d love to hear about how juicing has worked/not worked for others! Anyone with IBD out there??? Nikki
you should check out my friends at the Marijuana Saves Lives Foundation. Brett has been treating his wife Carrie’s Crohns Disease with Cannabis Milk with amazing results.
http://marijuanasaveslives.org/
It has pretty much saved her life. They are very loving people and more than happy to help those in need.
Al